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Clue #24 - Persephone (3) New Numbers, Message

Courtesy of Steve (1st) and others that said similiar. It looks like Persephone can tell if we get confused by one of her messages:

"New numbers on the persphone site equate to HAS WIN HOST PC IN NIL URGE. 8, not 1 and 6. (Not my doing) Rearanging the letters I get the following, that seems better than most that seems to be going around.

SIGN IN WITH HANSO PR CLUE. 8, not 1 and 6.
or
WHO IS RUNNING THIS PLACE 8, not 1 and 6

I think the 8, not 1 and 6 is to clarify a confusion with the last message that the Message should be Log in at THF.org May 8 This safe for now, instead of May 1 or May 6th.

38 Comments:

Blogger jcarubia said...

The PR clue is in one of the Press Releases. This could mean log in to the phone # released or use the word miracle to log in. or use something from the ane of the PR to log in.

This could refer to one of MANY PR not only for the hanso foundation but for Ocean-Air or Gary Troup

5/07/2006 03:55:00 PM  
Blogger Molly said...

why is it that you think this relates specifically to the miracle inactive link, as opposed to any of the others on THF.org?

5/07/2006 04:08:00 PM  
Blogger jcarubia said...

there are two "press releases" that have been distributed from the hanso foundation. The second was the one that gave the link to persophone.thehansofoundation.org. Could there be a third?

5/07/2006 04:11:00 PM  
Blogger davidm said...

The Press Release on the WWPDP project section of THF.org .. it does seem possible since persephone used a website link to communicate before.

5/07/2006 04:15:00 PM  
Blogger Joosh said...

I just think this is great, there has been debate about May 1 or May 6, and now we have a new clue saying "8, not 1 or 6" almost like they're watching us, seeing where we go in thought. They walk among us...lol

5/07/2006 04:27:00 PM  
Blogger canadaguy3 said...

i found another phone number for the UK on the Channel 4 site. its for Oceanic Air, the number is 0871 200 3904, and it says to enter 27 when the operator is on. has anyone called this number? (cant since im not in the UK). thanks

5/07/2006 04:30:00 PM  
Blogger Push_Tushkin said...

Where is this "empty link"?? I can't find what you're talking about. Please help!!

5/07/2006 04:59:00 PM  
Blogger davidm said...

the word "miracle" in the Press Release of the WWPDP section.

5/07/2006 05:01:00 PM  
Blogger frantana said...

like joosh, i think it's great they stepped in to put us on the right track. but can anybody figure out how they intended us to get "8" from the original encryption. is there something we missed or is it possible they just messed up and had to correct their own typo?

5/07/2006 05:11:00 PM  
Blogger Ryan said...

Maybe using a ROT-10?

0123456789
9876543210

That would be my guess, but oh well, at least we know!

5/07/2006 05:20:00 PM  
Blogger Joe D said...

Do you think this is the sign in on the main site, or underneath the newsletter section?

5/07/2006 05:38:00 PM  
Blogger Push_Tushkin said...

My guess would be on the Newsletter section since this is how she "communicated" with us before.

5/07/2006 05:45:00 PM  
Blogger Push_Tushkin said...

How are you guys figuring out these re-arrangements so fast? I figured out how you got from the numbers to the scrambled message, but then what? Are you just doing this by hand, or is there some program you're using? I personally suck at these "Jumble" type puzzles and I probably NEVER would have come up with either of these first 2 messages. How are you doing this? Just wondering.

5/07/2006 05:54:00 PM  
Blogger Morbius said...

The first one wasn't jumbled. The second one was however. I'm not sure how anyone got that out of the message...minds work differently I suppose.

Unless we're getting help.

5/07/2006 07:02:00 PM  
Blogger HEARTandSYNAPSE said...

well, its the 8th now here in UK. tried logging in with 'miracle' on the main log-in bottom right; didnt work. tried logging into the board of directors page with user-missing pass-organs, as thats the only feasible log-in/pass combo i can think of; again, nothing. tried logging into the dharma chat function through the newsletter page, but thats still saying 'no new messages'. so either we're wrong, or somethings gonna happen later today.

5/07/2006 08:50:00 PM  
Blogger Steeeb said...

experience-lost.com :

How to solve the first one:

Make it ASCII
Now use ROT- 3 for VOWELS ONLY

Replace vowels only and get the following:
jba ebs rsnf fvuG 1 lnZ teb.SUG gn av tbY

Reverse letters now
Ybt va ng GUS.bet Znl 1 Guvf fnsr sbe abj

ROT-13 this and get the following:
Log in at THF.org May 1 This safe for now

If we use a simple substitution cipher for the numbers
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0

Log in at THF.org May 8 This safe for now.

Thats how..

ROT 3 because theres 6 Vowels.. A, E, I, O, U, Y

5/07/2006 10:45:00 PM  
Blogger Aly said...

Can someone please explain what ASCII and ROT-3 are?? Thanks!

5/07/2006 11:30:00 PM  
Blogger Destoo said...

ROT13: A=N (letter 1 = letter 14) , M=Z (letter 13 = letter 26) (that's the classic "encryption" but in this case is not used for vowels)

ROT 3: (in our case) A=O, E=U, I=Y (3rd vowel = 6th vowel)

ROT means you rotate the second part of the alphabet.
ABCDEFGHIJKLM
NOPQRSTUVWXYZ

For ASCII:
If you look at the ASCII table, each character is assigned a number.
It maps both uppercase (A=65..Z=90) and lowercase (a=97..z=122) letters.

For that basic stuff, Wikipedia is your friend.

5/08/2006 12:08:00 AM  
Blogger Aly said...

Thanks!!

5/08/2006 12:10:00 AM  
Blogger Asindrew said...

Doesn't the english langauge only have five vowels? Every language differs in how many vowels they have. Latin has 6, which includes the Y. But we are English yes? - so why rot-3 on vowels? anyways if it works, it works i guess, however the gap in logic.

5/08/2006 01:56:00 AM  
Blogger lostgrrl said...

heartandsynapse, I've been trying various combinations as well at the Board of Directors login page, including using Peter Thompson and Liddy Wales as user names, and miracle and breaking strain as the password. Does anyone have an idea of what a good user name might be?

5/08/2006 02:24:00 AM  
Blogger Asindrew said...

Who do we want information from? Since Persephone leaked us those two GWC letters that were addressed to Dr. Roderick Johnson of disease control, maybe its his user information we want to hack into? Maybe our next search is the situation in which this transgenic disease was manufactured, and why? A transgenic meningoccol disease that transcends the simean/ homo sapian barrier? Meningococcal cannot be contracted by anyone other than humans (wikpedia) so how and why have primates contracted it? Maybe Roderick johnson is the key.

5/08/2006 02:35:00 AM  
Blogger tekgirl said...

Guys...the login box on hanso homepage, bottom right is now active!! Doesn't accept the word miracle though...also tried breaking strain and nothing. It just cycles then says unknown user...

5/08/2006 09:30:00 AM  
Blogger Stephen said...

canadaguy3 said... (under Clue 24)
i found another phone number for the UK on the Channel 4 site. its for Oceanic Air, the number is 0871 200 3904, and it says to enter 27 when the operator is on. has anyone called this number? (cant since im not in the UK). thanks

Sunday, May 07, 2006


I called, you can too from anywhere in the world it's 00448712003904.

It starts: "Welcome to Oceanic Air. All calls are charged at the natonal rate. If you know the extenstion you require dial it now then press the # key. To speak to an opperatior press 0."

If you press "27#" for the extension you hear some dialog;
Female voice (Katie?) - "Think it's still there?"
Male voice - "What?"
Female voice (Katie?) - "You know what!"
Male voice - "It's the middle of the night Katie!"
Female voice (Katie?) - "We might not get another chance..."

Then suspencful music plays until the line cuts off.

If you press 0 for the opperator you hear different dialog, it's a woman talking in French (I think). It goes for about 25 seconds then cuts off if you press any key during it it cuts off!

Sorry I can't do sound clips.

5/08/2006 10:18:00 AM  
Blogger sarahc99 said...

Is the PR clue something to do with hanso's motto "reaching out to a better tomorrow"?

5/08/2006 12:29:00 PM  
Blogger Adman said...

Different decoding of the new numbers....

WHL SIGN IN HANSO PICTURE
WHLGN IS IN HANSO PICTURE

?

5/08/2006 04:51:00 PM  
Blogger ncamren said...

The old Hanso website, http://emri.perception.net/, says on the home page:

"2006-05-07: from http://persephone.thehansofoundation.org/
72 65 83 32 87 73 78 32 72 79 83 84 32 80 67 32 73 78 32 78 73 76 32 85 82 71
69 46 32 56 44 32 110 111 116 32 49 32 97 110 100 32 54 46
as: ASCII values:
HAS WIN HOST PC IN NIL URGE. 8, not 1 and 6.
as anagram:
LOGIN HUNCH WAS PRISTINE. 8, not 1 and 6."

It seems like someone on the inside is keeping tabs on this site... This post on the site seems to prove it to me.
Plus, could the THF.org on the old message possibly refer to the OLD Hanso Foundation site? Just a thought.

5/08/2006 09:42:00 PM  
Blogger TheNagChampa said...

If you call the number given for Hugh McIntyre on the press release concerning being hacked you get a fake not in service message plus a code "3g3tc1".... maybe you can sign into the board of directors think using hugh mcintyres code... hence the hint in teh press release... just a thought

5/10/2006 02:19:00 PM  
Blogger Brother Jeff said...

It looks like this is nothing more than:

"WHO IS RUNNING THIS PLACE"

Which showed up on May 8th not May 1st or May 6th.

I can't take credit, found it on another board.

5/11/2006 02:37:00 PM  
Blogger lostluvr29 said...

I don't know if this is a legit site or not..but if you go to www.paik-heavy.com ..you get a message saying the site is unavailable and gives you the contact information for Peter Thompson.
There is a link that says "About Paik-Heavy Industries" but I couldnt get it to go anywhere.
I did, however find a hidden link on the page by using the tab key. It is located right above the "About Paik-Heavy" link.
If you click on it, a window opens up that says:
"Sorry it didn't work out, it was a group try. If you see an oval rash you must deal with it immediately. Or at least check the source.

There wasn't much we could do about the open sphere. She was on a phone spree and we had to get out of there.

104 116 116 112 58 47 47 119 119 119 46 112 97 105 107 45 104 101 97 118 121 46 99 111 109 47 110 97 109 97 115 116 101 46 104 116 109"

Can you do your magic you did with the other numbers to see if this means anything?

5/11/2006 07:03:00 PM  
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5/11/2006 07:10:00 PM  
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5/11/2006 07:18:00 PM  
Blogger lostluvr29 said...

It looks like the numbers just mean http://www.paik-heavy.com/namaste.htm

If you type that in the address bar, you get a screen asking for your email address.
Looks like it could be a spam scam :(
What do you think?

5/11/2006 07:19:00 PM  
Blogger ualleverybody said...

The cryptic clue from the Paik-Heavy website has 3 anagrams in it. "A group try" is Gary Troup. "An oval Rash" is Alvar Hanso. and "open sphere" is Persephone. "Phone spree" is also an anagram of Persephone but we're not sure why it is repeated. anyone have any ideas about the numbers at the end?

5/12/2006 05:06:00 PM  
Blogger lostluvr29 said...

I dont have the numbers in front of me, but you should put them into an ASCII converter..it will probably reveal a website.

5/15/2006 03:19:00 PM  
Blogger Marc said...

Paik-Heavy should be considered out of game at the moment. Be very wary of putting any personal information into that site.

5/15/2006 06:56:00 PM  
Blogger HeartMon said...

About the channel 4 oceanic flight number (08712003904) you can add 55# and 24# as well 27#. 55 is claire and 24 is locke. Also for sayid it says 1 add 1 add 6 add 5# so i dont know if that means 1165 or what, but i havnt tried it yet...

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