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Clue #26 - Insights from Pictures of Execs & Board

On May 8, Persephone mentioned the grainy picture of Alvar Hanso. She noticed that it is different than the others. Here is a thought provoking insight from Jenna: "Almost all of the pictures on (thehansofoundation.org) website are stock photos you can purchase anywhere on the web. Curiously, and a bit intriguing, is that the in the Executive Bios section, the only two photos that are not stock photography is the Alvar Hanso photo (of course), and Dr. Thomas Mittlewerk . To me, that indicates that Mittlewerk may soon be a real character on the show (or at least involved elsewhere in the game). The rest definitely look like stock photography."

EDIT: Ha!Ha! Jenna was right! Jacob Vanderfield, Lawrence Peck, Peter Thompson, Hugh McIntyre, Dick Cheever, and even the guy behind Joop were all found in Getty Images. Sorry I can't link to them, but trust me. That was fun! Liddy Wales is still a question mark.


Blogger k.barrick said...

Posting my previous idea... anyone?

An idea (or fear)

If THIS is the accurate translation of Persephone's latest numbers:


Could "8, NOT 1 AND 6" be a riddle? Then THAT'S what we login with? Maybe it's not confirming nor denying the accuracy of the previous message... just providing another clue.

5/08/2006 09:56:00 AM  
Blogger Acts4Food said...

If youre talking about the log in box at the bottom its always done that...

5/08/2006 09:57:00 AM  
Blogger inaneness said...

new persephone numbers?

5/08/2006 10:04:00 AM  
Blogger k.barrick said...

Not new... just the latest ones that are "reported" to have cleared up the translation of the date.

5/08/2006 10:06:00 AM  
Blogger inaneness said...

Thanks, I could not find the specific of the string so I just wanted to make sure.

5/08/2006 10:07:00 AM  
Blogger Gigs said...

I don't have flash at work to give it a try (which makes me more anxious to learn whats up) but how about "HANSO PR CLUE" as a literal password. Keep up the good work! I have fun reading all this.

5/08/2006 10:10:00 AM  
Blogger inaneness said...

I also can't find reference to the purpose of; http://emri.perception.net/
Is this the Hanso foundation's spoiler site?

5/08/2006 10:12:00 AM  
Blogger Acts4Food said...

Where did we get this new site... its got some cool things on it but is it in game??

5/08/2006 10:22:00 AM  
Blogger scarlettbgonya said...

In response to k.barrick's comment above:

"Could "8, NOT 1 AND 6" be a riddle? Then THAT'S what we login with? Maybe it's not confirming nor denying the accuracy of the previous message... just providing another clue."

To me, "1 and 6" sounds like a convoluted way of saying "7," making it "...8, not 7." Just a thought.

5/08/2006 10:23:00 AM  
Blogger Freeman said...

Emri.perception.net is a fansite that used the old Hanso site as it's template. It looks like they're using the game to update it.

5/08/2006 10:26:00 AM  
Blogger k.barrick said...

To "me" (strange writing that),

Yep. Figured that it was saying "8 not 7" if it was a clue. But because I'm so CRAPPY at riddles or codes... I figured that there might be something to it.

Since there's no further action on the Hanso site so far... thought it was worth considering.

p.s. how LONG can these word verification be?

5/08/2006 10:32:00 AM  
Blogger davidm said...

I took "8, not 1 and 6" to be a hint that we were on the wrong track with guesses like "May 1" and "May 6". If that were true, I would expect to be able to sign in today. Time will tell.

5/08/2006 10:37:00 AM  
Blogger traci said...

the only new clues (?) i have found are on the WWPDP world map page. another lostie posted a hidden link in teh world map, so i checked it out and saw that there is a linked spot over the carribbean. clicking on it will bring up a hospital icon but no information to the left. however, if you move your mouse over the white space a faint box appears with some sort of message and a series of numbers:




which, if you replace the numbers with letters, you get "missing" and "orgins"

any speculation? i tried using those two words as login to both the newletter sign up ("..no new messages..." still) and the log in at the bottom right of the page but to no avail.

5/08/2006 10:45:00 AM  
Blogger k.barrick said...

So sorry but old news.

There's no link to anything else yet but I'm sure it's important for the future.

5/08/2006 10:46:00 AM  
Blogger Ethereal Dreamer said...

In response to freeman:


You are correct. Check out the whois data on GoDaddy. It was registered in 97. Also you can verify by getting rid of the leading domain and just go to "Perception.net".

5/08/2006 10:48:00 AM  
Blogger CHRISTINASRACK said...

I have a feeling we won't see anything new ill the next episode....I hope I'm wrong

5/08/2006 10:48:00 AM  
Blogger k.barrick said...

To davidm,

Yeah, and I hope that logging in today WILL be correct... but there is some presumption that this is the PIC (People in Charge) correcting those who used the wrong cipher... what if it's NOT? Would the PIC be so observant of the blogs, etc.?

Also, I'm just passing time while I procrastinate from packing boxes. I think it's a valid idea.

5/08/2006 10:50:00 AM  
Blogger The Oscar Bum said...

How come no one who has visited the site mentions the Dharma Initiative video there? It's pretty cool. Just go to active projects. It's a hidden link at the bottom of the list.

5/08/2006 10:51:00 AM  
Blogger Acts4Food said...

Theres also a cool thing if you click on alvar hansos pic... but if its just a fan site then Im not sure if theres any point to the info on it... still its a cool site...

5/08/2006 10:55:00 AM  
Blogger lostinmee said...

This is a fansite....... The author of this site is goes by lxicon, who is a poster around these sites. He alos runs a site that would show him to be a fan 100%, but I don't want to post it out of respect. Let's just say he has a ton of lost related fan material on it. As for the link - it's just a link - anyone can post a link to anything. The site - why would ABC give us all the clues so far without having to search anyhow?

5/08/2006 10:57:00 AM  
Blogger Push_Tushkin said...

On this new site, it deciphers the latest string of numbers as "LOGIN HUNCH WAS PRISTINE." So, who is way off base here, us or them?? I also find it wierd that at least TWO anagrams that make sense can be made out of the same set of letters. Anyone come up with more than these two? I suck at those types of things.

5/08/2006 11:01:00 AM  
Blogger Freeman said...

It's a cool fansite, definately, and it was great to have around when the original Hanso site went down. Anyone who didn't see the Hanso site before or the Orientation video that was on it, this is a pretty good capture of what it is.

Right now, the new Hanso site is basically the old one on huge, flash-steroids. Oh, with content that gets, presumably, updated. (Unlike the last one.)

5/08/2006 11:06:00 AM  
Blogger scarlettbgonya said...

FWIW, the latest Persephone message also anagrams to "HANSO PUNISHING CREW TIL 8, not 1 and 6." Probably meaningless, but since push_tushkin asked about other translations....

5/08/2006 11:07:00 AM  
Blogger Freeman said...

Who do you guys think of this:


5/08/2006 11:12:00 AM  
Blogger Lazarus said...


In my excessive enthusiasm, I posted about perception.net yesterday, here:


And was told it's a fan site and not in game - which I have basically confirmed (for myself anyway). Even so, as a4f says, it's pretty cool.


5/08/2006 11:12:00 AM  
Blogger smoknjo said...

oceanicairlines now says "error"

"incorrect time"

then blinking reset ---

then ? mark

then 8:15

5/08/2006 12:38:00 PM  
Blogger jcarubia said...

I've got it! The letters are an anagram of:



5/08/2006 12:39:00 PM  
Blogger discogal said...

So, went to the oceanicairlines.com site and it said "error. incorrect time." then said "reset" and then flashed 8:15.

5/08/2006 12:40:00 PM  
Blogger smoknjo said...


5/08/2006 12:40:00 PM  
Blogger The EYE said...

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5/08/2006 12:49:00 PM  
Blogger jcarubia said...

I really enjoy this game's concept and I am wholeheartedly an active participant. But is enyone else finding what we're doing rather dry and unfullfilling? There hasn't been any real reason/motive/purpose to hunt for more clues... no story is really being developed and everything is independant of the show. We should be expecting more than a post of some #'s to decode. I really do hope something big develops or is revealed soon. I guess we have all summer. But that is a LONG time to be looing at the same clues over and over agian. I feel like Oliver, "Please sir, may I have some more?" How 'bout it Mr. Abrams?

5/08/2006 12:49:00 PM  
Blogger Kraziekeysha said...

I was thinking that on the website oceanicairlines.com that we have to go there at 8:15 tonight? just a thought....i agree with jcarubia, these few hints are getting old....we need some more. LOL then again it could be my lack of patience getting to me!

5/08/2006 12:53:00 PM  
Blogger Lazarus said...

Or perhaps it's in reference to the digital clock on the Hanso site.

I believe that is PST.

And it doesn't show "am" or "pm", so 8:15 would probably be tonight.

My sense is that the developers are got a little ahead of themselves and haven't caught up yet....

5/08/2006 12:59:00 PM  
Blogger Freeman said...

I think it's a bit simpler than that. The Hanso Foundation and "Lost Experience" game needs to move at a slower pace than, say, a message board, because I'm sure the creators are hoping to draw this out over a long period of time, keep interest, and get people involved who don't do things like "reverse the flash code" and refresh their browser too many times a day (like me) or "look for links that aren't active yet." If the updates come once a week or so, I'm sure that's plenty for the casual viewer who will just log into the site after an episode of LOST airs.

I think considering the whole thing has been offline for months, and it only started last week, patience is probably in order. I have a feeling it's going to get pretty darn good.

5/08/2006 01:05:00 PM  
Blogger Dan Laugharn said...

Oceanic Airlines is not an in-game site.

5/08/2006 01:07:00 PM  
Blogger Deannacat said...

The www.oceanicairlines.com site has been changing alot in the past couple of weeks. They kept adding dots until it was a configuration of 4 in a row and then two rows of two each. I think it was Friday that it changed to "Ready" in a grey rectangle under the dots and then later a white and grey striped scrolling bar in place of "Ready". It was doing some weird stuff over the weekend, too. The eight dots would change into "Time is up" and then a grey box appeared that had words zooming across it, but I could never get a screen capture of it. Then it went to the question mark, flashed 8:15 and then went to "Reset". I tried loading it at 8:15am CST and 10:15 CST and got the error message. I tried reseting my darn clock and got the same thing. =oP Frusterating!

5/08/2006 01:15:00 PM  
Blogger Spoodles said...

I haven't noticed this mentioned anywhere, but what's with the drawings that go on behind Joop's webcam picture after you sign up for the newsletter? It starts off as nothing and eventually becomes a big, black mess of scrubbles, but there seems to be a method to the madness of the design.

5/08/2006 01:16:00 PM  
Blogger discogal said...

How do you know oceanicairlines.com is not in the game? I've seen a list of other sites that aren't in the game but again, how does anyone truly "know", except for verifying that its a true site for a truly functioning company, etc?

5/08/2006 01:24:00 PM  
Blogger jacksands said...

Another anagram:
LOGIN IS ETHAN PW IS CHURN. 8, not 1 and 6.

5/08/2006 01:25:00 PM  
Blogger EmjO said...

There is no point in looking for clues at the hanso site if they haven't uppdated it, so it's easier to look if they uppdade the site and then look for clues there.... you can see here when it was last uppdated http://www.networksolutions.com/whois/results.jsp?whoistoken=4

and yea they will drag this game out all summer, so I think it will take at least a few days between the clues...

5/08/2006 01:35:00 PM  
Blogger The EYE said...

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5/08/2006 01:38:00 PM  
Blogger The EYE said...

could the clue have something to do with the fact that the phone number, plus "/hugh." are all underlined blue (but not part of the mailto: link) in the third PR clue; considering the "8 not 1 and 6" could have something to do with the first three digits of the phone number being "861"?


5/08/2006 01:39:00 PM  
Blogger lostgrrl said...

and yea they will drag this game out all summer, so I think it will take at least a few days between the clues...

And I imagine the game will heat up once the season finale is over and we are really feeling LOST deprived ;)

5/08/2006 01:44:00 PM  
Blogger Maggiemay said...

"?" is the title of this week's episode. Maybe the oceanic air site is a reference to that?

5/08/2006 01:45:00 PM  
Blogger Joe D said...

is anyone else getting a bit tired of oceanicairlines.com? From what I've seen it's not part of the game, and thus fan-made, and thus fruitless in my opinion. If abc was going to use an oceanic-themed site for the game, why wouldn't they use the one they already have?

5/08/2006 01:49:00 PM  
Blogger Didi said...

This is not related to Persephone or the Hanso Foundation, but it may be something. I can't remember if the global Paradigms corp. is a fake site or not, but on their worker's personal site- Michael Sontag- http://globalparadigmscorp.com/~msontag/ is an email add. in morse code. I emailed Grendel at global paradigms corp. a few days ago and they responded with this email:

> who and Where is he and How do you get him out? what do you know about the
> hanso foundation?


the link at the bottom leads you to a log in. I'm sharing this cause i dont know if anyone else got it or if its one fantastic run-around. plus, I suck at these things.

5/08/2006 01:53:00 PM  
Blogger Fray said...

I'm convinced that at least some of these "unofficial" sites are actually legit. I've put a brief overview on my blog.

If these aren't part of the game yet, I think they will be.

5/08/2006 01:56:00 PM  
Blogger jeph said...


from the GPC client's page:


Over its three decade history, GPC has had the privilege of working with some of the world's top think tanks and companies:

Lockheed Martin
Rocketdyne Propulsion & Power
Merck & Co., Inc.
Minnesota Metallurgy
Hanso Foundation
The Coca-Cola Company
Valenzetti Foundation
Hadron Applications
Schering AG
General Electric
RAND Corporation
and many, many more...


I'd say it in-game. Now we just need a user/pass.

5/08/2006 01:57:00 PM  
Blogger jeph said...

Also, on Michael Sontag's site (http://globalparadigmscorp.com/~msontag/) it says:

"This is America...There's only four things we do better than anyone else
microcode (software)
high-speed pizza delivery"
--SNOW CRASH by Neal Stephenson

and then in white text it says: "Stephenson was wrong. There are five. He missed weapons." With weapons underlined. I think we're onto something here - wether or not it's new or somehow related.

My questions: who is Sontag's guru - NK Nave (a quick amazon search produces nothing)

5/08/2006 02:19:00 PM  
Blogger Morbius said...

Ok, not sure if this is old news or not.


I'm not positive if it was something I did, but a few of the seats lit up with character names from the show. Clicking on the seat then does some wonky flash stuff...if you click on "pre board check in" it brings up a page that says "Ethan Rom" with each letter as a link. There are boxes underneath the name....

5/08/2006 02:21:00 PM  
Blogger tekgirl said...

Re the oceanicairline.com site - has anyone suggested yet that the 8:15 might refer to August 15? I know its a while away, but if this is going to go on for some time it might be something to keep in mind...

5/08/2006 02:22:00 PM  
Blogger Didi said...

The reference to Nave has been discussed by a few- I found a few references at Lostpedia http://lostpedia.com/wiki/S.K._Nave. I guess people found out about the email as well.

5/08/2006 02:24:00 PM  
Blogger TT said...

On the GPC Site, Michael lists a book number as his greates fear ISBN 0-7888-1806-6. Google this and find Disney's Fantasia on DVD, not sure of the significance. Anybody want to guess if this is fan site or in-game? Also, confused about oceanic-airlines.com vs. oceanicairlines.com (which is now blank for me) Which one is real??? oceanic-airlines.com has been around for a while and had those hidden messages in teh code/background. I love this but Disney/ABC/JJ are really f***ing with my head now. Thanks for all the hard work, Losties

5/08/2006 02:29:00 PM  
Blogger Joe D said...

i'm under the impression that oceanicairlines.com is not part of the game. As I said before, if anything oceanic was going to be in TLE, I would expect it to be the official oceanic-airlines.com site. It wouldn't be hard to setup a "relaunch" of that website along the same lines of the Hanso site.

Also, for now, I think I'm still standing firm that the Valenzetti Foundation site is bogus. Not only is it really poorly designed, but all the Gary Troup information thus far is pointing towards Valenzetti being a mathematician and something called the Valenzetti Equation. This seems to be somewhat far off from a scientific foundation of some sorts...so until I see proof otherwise I'm deeming the Valenzetti Foundation site bogus, and not part of the Experience.

5/08/2006 02:38:00 PM  
Blogger famous58 said...

Just a side note to the globalparadigmscorp.com stuff, it appears that the domain was registered in June of 2004, although the site states (in numerous places) the company filed for chapter 11 in 1995. The domain is set to expire June 18th of this year. Guess if they renew it is in-game, no?

5/08/2006 02:40:00 PM  
Blogger TT said...

I have no clue, but good observation, anybody had luck logging into the secure/cage of GPC? Still waiting on THF.org update today, any SWF clues yet?

5/08/2006 02:43:00 PM  
Blogger toro said...

has anyone else clicked on the date underneath the picture of alvar hanso on his page in the executive bios section - it brings up another set of info from persephone about the last time alvar hanso was seen

5/08/2006 02:44:00 PM  
Blogger choff said...

I'm new to this and am amazed at the stuff you all have figured out. What if the 8:15 is telling people to watch for something to happen at 8:15 before the episode "?" airs. Could there be a new commercial, or maybe a "hacker" attack?

5/08/2006 02:47:00 PM  
Blogger Karl said...

Ok, if you go to the executive bios page and click the date under the alvar hanso pic, you'll get the newest clue :)

5/08/2006 02:48:00 PM  
Blogger Mark S said...

Yeah i mailed that half an hour ago. Also send them 7 or 8 new SWF finding of me.

we'll see ..

5/08/2006 02:53:00 PM  
Blogger We are the 801 said...

I think the S.K. Nave stuff may be "in-game" or, at least worth persuing. There is an Amazon listmania list by a "Rachel Nave" called "If You Love S.K. Nave, You'll Also Love..." whose nickname is "mygrandmothersbooks." here's the URL:

5/08/2006 02:53:00 PM  
Blogger Karl said...

What do you mean 'send them 7 or 8'?

5/08/2006 02:54:00 PM  
Blogger christy said...

cool! cool! cool!

Where IS Alvar Hanso?

5/08/2006 02:56:00 PM  
Blogger Deannacat said...

DARN IT! It's not working for me! As for whether a site is in or not, who knows? With all this speculation, don't put it past ABC to contact fan and say "Hey, for the good of the game can we use your site to jack with people?"

5/08/2006 02:59:00 PM  
Blogger VelocityGirl said...

Hmm...The Hanso-date link is non-existant for me. I'm not sure why, as I'm up to date with everything else so far.

5/08/2006 03:00:00 PM  
Blogger Nek Regnis said...

"Could "8, NOT 1 AND 6" be a riddle? Then THAT'S what we login with? Maybe it's not confirming nor denying the accuracy of the previous message... just providing another clue."

There are 10 numerals in The Numbers, and 1 and 6 are two of them. If you don't include them you are left with 8 numerals. I have been using Google maps to try and find latitudes and longitudes that might be clues, but nothing too interesting. However, you will end up in Africa when you do this, near the hospitals listed.

Also, try using your tab key when navigating the Hanso site. You will highlight links, one of which is hidden in the bottom left hand corner. Clicking it will move the colored "spotlights" around. (This technique reveals the hidden hospital link on the world map, as well.) I thought it might allow me to read the red "writing" on the letters since you can enlarge your browser window enough to see the letter backlit some at the very bottom of the page. Can't get the red blob to go low enough though. Must do something, no?

5/08/2006 03:07:00 PM  
Blogger humanivy said...


Go there and click on Pre-board check in. Underneath "Ethan Rom", drag the letters into the boxes to spell the anagram, "Other Man". It shows a video of Walt being taken off the raft by Zeke and the Others.


5/08/2006 03:16:00 PM  
Blogger toro said...

to use the hanso date link it has to be past 8:15pm in your area - change your pc to GMT and see if it works

5/08/2006 03:18:00 PM  
Blogger Nek Regnis said...

The datelink didn't work for me until I reloaded the site and signed in. It is 4:17 PM Eastern Time.

5/08/2006 03:20:00 PM  
Blogger The EYE said...

though this may be inconsequential, when you click on the rss button by the login on hanso foundation page, it is no longer broken.

5/08/2006 03:21:00 PM  
Blogger christy said...

I put the screenshots I took from after I clicked on the date under Alvar Hanso's name here: http://tinyurl.com/h7xu4

5/08/2006 03:22:00 PM  
Blogger tekgirl said...

I couldn't click the link either, a very nice chap on one of the other forum sites helped out with this...

First, try clearing your cache and reloading your browser.

If this doesn't work, then go to:
The downside to accessing it this way is that you will need to carry out all of the steps again - login to newsltter, first msg form persephone, joop's corner and so on. Once you've done this you'll get the date link - it will will underlined with a turquoise line.

5/08/2006 03:24:00 PM  
Blogger kickerkb said...

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5/08/2006 03:29:00 PM  
Blogger Karl said...

The morse code says SAFER, or possiblt SAFEG, but safer sounds more realistic.

5/08/2006 03:36:00 PM  
Blogger rhettoric said...


If you wait through Persephone's map maessage and don't click anything where she talks about

"Where is Alvar Hanso" "Is He Hiding?" etc.

the screen will go dark and a green light will start flashing along with beeping. The Beeping seems to be morse code.

I'm not an expert at such things but the code seems to be

... .- ..-. . --.

which translates to SAFEG

there seems to be a longer-than usual pause between the last E and the G which might indicate that these are distinct words.

5/08/2006 03:42:00 PM  
Blogger darling_is_lost said...

new clue?
go to mental health appeal
click inquire today
what goes here??

5/08/2006 04:45:00 PM  
Blogger darling_is_lost said...

everything i try it says sorry connection timed out

5/08/2006 04:47:00 PM  
Blogger Saeid said...

darling that's been there since the reopening of the site

5/08/2006 04:56:00 PM  
Blogger darling_is_lost said...

oh well guess i missed that, thnx

5/08/2006 05:03:00 PM  
Blogger Adman said...

So no good decoding of the anagram?

Here are some ideas:


Also... I've noticed that the different projects all have letter acronyms. Also, they sometimes have an "R" or "C" symbol following. I wonder if that could be a big anagram for something?

Go to the Mission Statement page (I believe) to see them all listed out... it just looks suspicious to me.

5/08/2006 06:32:00 PM  
Blogger Saeid said...

What anagram?

5/08/2006 07:02:00 PM  
Blogger wendyzski said...

well, it's after 8:15 (at least in my Central time zone) and no change in the oceanicairlines site.

5/08/2006 08:26:00 PM  
Blogger Mishras Tempest said...

jcarubia said...

I've got it! The letters are an anagram of:



ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US is a cheat code for Warcraft III.

It is an auto win code, just thinking...

5/08/2006 08:38:00 PM  
Blogger Karl said...

Haha, if only it was an anagram of that.

5/09/2006 11:18:00 AM  
Blogger lost_tailies said...

If anybody watched that David Blaine thing, in the closing credits there was a credit given to Getty Images. Must be an ABC company or some kind of contract thing there.

5/10/2006 07:53:00 AM  
Blogger Sebastian said...

I'm pretty awful at word games --or, at least, so I like to pretend-- but what if "8, not 1 and 6" is really a word puzzle? We write it out "EIGHT NOT ONE AND SIX", and with a little work we find that it is an anagram for "GET INTO HANSO INDEX." Better suggestions?

5/10/2006 04:55:00 PM  
Blogger NYStingRay said...

Another suggestion??

How about:


5/13/2006 05:42:00 PM  
Blogger Kimber said...

Ok, it's nice to be old. In an old show called "the prisoner" had an intro "Where am I?"
"In the Village."
"What do you want?"
"Whose side are you on?"
That would be telling."
"We want information. Information. Information!"
""You won't get it."
"By hook or by crook, we will."
""Who are you?"
"The new Number 2." (This may vary)
""Who is Number 1?"
"You are Number 6."
""I am not a number — I am a free man!"
(Laughter from Number 2.)

The clue is in the answer as always. On the hanso website, who is in charge, 8 not 1 or 6 so goto BOD and look at picture 8 :) see if it fits.
Thanks to everyone who is playing. It has been lots of fun.

5/22/2006 01:29:00 PM  
Blogger AnnSimone said...

OHMIGOSH. I am such a big fan of the Prisoner and was thinking JUST that when I read it. And they are stuck on the island! Lol. And that Island security system... the big ball. I saw those crazy crossovers the first season, but noone ever seems to remember the Prisoner.
Those scenes where Locke says "Don't tell me what I can't do" always reminded me of the "I'm not a number... I am a free man!" Lol. Any other clues hiding in that series? Hmmmm.

6/05/2006 05:09:00 AM  

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