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Clue #28 - Gary Troup Info (3) Newspaper Ad & Response

The Hanso Foundation bought AD space in several metropolitan newspapers across the US. Jennifer in Boston was first to notice and send me an email. I've heard it's in the Chicago Tribune, LA Times, Philadelphia DailyNews, New York, Washington, and Dallas (and I'm sure other places). Here is what the AD said:

A message From Hugh McIntyre, Director of Communications at the Hanso Foundation

Don't Believe "Bad Twin"

For over thirty years, The Hanso Foundation has stood for compassion and innovation, but today, our reputation has been attacked in the novel "Bad Twin," written by Gary Troup and published by Hyperion books.

Throughout the pages of "Bad Twin" readers have found numerous passages featuring misinformation about the Hanso Foundation and its partners. The Hanso Foundation strongly objects to the book "Bad Twin," and encourages readers to make up their own minds.

The truth about the Hanso Foundation is available at www.TheHansoFoundation.org and not on the pages of Gary Troup's "Bad Twin".

Experience it for yourself.

Thank you, and namaste.
Hanso Foundation, Reaching Out to a Better Tomorrow

See posts & comments below in Clue #25 & Clue #19 for more info on Gary Troup & his "BAD TWIN" novel.

EDIT: Added 5/10
On http://www.garytroup.net/splash.htm

We have received many calls and e-mails asking about the recent advertising campaign done by the Hanso Foundation about our recent publication of BAD TWIN. While we can't respond to you individually on this matter, please know that this issue is of great concern to us,and we are investigating what actions we should or shouldn't take in relation to this complaint. Meanwhile, thank you for your attention and consideration.

See the same thing on HYPERION BOOKS website


Blogger smoknjo said...

marketing geniuses ... tie a show, in with a book, disguised by a game about the show with clues in the book

makes my head spin like those jokes about my sister is also my mother

5/09/2006 07:38:00 AM  
Blogger christy said...

well i guess this dispels any rumors on whether or not the book is in the game.

5/09/2006 07:44:00 AM  
Blogger traci said...

which boston newspaper was this published in?

5/09/2006 07:48:00 AM  
Blogger zennie20 said...

Here's a link to the ad in the Philadelphia Daily News:


5/09/2006 07:53:00 AM  
Blogger smoknjo said...

doesn't the girl on the intro at the hanso foundation site look alot like the rachel from s1ep10, the one pictured in clue #19?

granted, not as tan, but still the resemblance is uncanny

5/09/2006 07:59:00 AM  
Blogger lostgrrl said...

In looking for this ad in the Seattle Times, I found this article referencing your site :)


5/09/2006 08:26:00 AM  
Blogger FeaR-ME said...

Hey does anybody thinks Alvar's picture looks like Jack's father? I know it's a long shot, but think of the possibilities... A man very rich, powerfull... he was dead but appeared for jack at the island... Maybe I'm just talking shit but the photo of Hanso looks very similar to Jackie's daddy xD

5/09/2006 10:57:00 AM  
Blogger That guy said...

I have an unrelated comment to the paper, but I wanted to know if other people had the same thing happen. When you go to the Hanso Foundation website and sit through the intro, is the audio not quite synched to the video at the beginning? As the clip continues it gets better, but at the beginning I'm not even sure that the what the woman is saying (with her lips) is what the audio is. Plus it seems to me that there are two speakers, one that says everything but namaste at the end of the message. I haven't seen anything about this and didn't know if was just my computer or not, it's just weird for a professional website to have such a stupid glitch in it. Anyway, thanks for any thoughts!

5/09/2006 11:01:00 AM  
Blogger FeaR-ME said...

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5/09/2006 11:05:00 AM  
Blogger FeaR-ME said...

Just explaining my words... I've started thinkin about that couse' persephone says pointing the Alvar's pic: "Doesn't this match anyone?", so I've started to think about men that we already know who could match the photo.... I've also thought of Locke's dad... but, for me, Jack's dad looks more similar.

5/09/2006 11:08:00 AM  
Blogger kickerkb said...

i know its offtopic and probably already been discussed, but what is namaste??

5/09/2006 11:10:00 AM  
Blogger Spoodles said...

That Guy: I noticed the same thing. Anybody know how to read lips?

5/09/2006 11:11:00 AM  
Blogger Zach said...

the audio is not synced for the video because they are 2 seperate files in the source.

why they do this, i do not know


5/09/2006 11:14:00 AM  
Blogger The Bloody Wanker said...

Interesting theory, fear-me. I personally took Persephone's statement to mean that Hanso's pic-quality didn't match that of the other executive bio pics...

5/09/2006 11:14:00 AM  
Blogger Karl said...

No, your just looking too far into this. The first line 'notice the grainy far away picture' shows she's clearly refering to the fact the picture is different to all the rest, not that it looks like someone else.

5/09/2006 11:21:00 AM  
Blogger FeaR-ME said...

ok, u're right, there's no connection with persephone's line =P

But, anyway, you really don't think Alvar looks like Jack's father?

5/09/2006 11:36:00 AM  
Blogger kickerkb said...

I googled it and found this:

For, Hindu(s), of course, the greeting of choice is "Namaste," the two hands pressed together and held near the heart with the head gently bowed as one says, "Namaste." Thus it is both a spoken greeting and a gesture.

Anyone find it weird that this seemingly unreligious company (active projects in Mathematics, Life extension, and Genome advancement) would use a religious based greeting.

5/09/2006 11:36:00 AM  
Blogger jeph said...

I just realized this today while looking at the Hanso newspaper ad (which didn't appear in the Washington Post, btw). I never really knew what the flourish from the O in the Hanso logotype was, but looking at it it's clearly a ying yang symbol, with the O representing the black dot of the white part. Does this mean anything?

Also, I think this was probably just part of the logo design, but I think it's interesting that there is more
"White" in the ying yang than there is "Black"

5/09/2006 11:39:00 AM  
Blogger icallwindow said...

On the theory of who Alvar Hanso "really is"... someone mentioned Locke's dad, which is interesting, considering one of the clues found on THF.org is "missing organs". Hmmmm...

5/09/2006 11:47:00 AM  
Blogger FeaR-ME said...

icall! good thinkin! Missing organs = the stolen kidney from Locke... I really think that Alvar is someone we already know, and Locke's dad match the requirements: Rich, powerfull, crazy... missed... Any Ideas? Once I've read about one theory called "The nine unknown men" that says Locke's father is some kind of Mistic guy (forgot the story, I'll try to post the link) and Locke, Alex & claire's baby are 3 generations of persons that are meant to be his sucessor... crazy huh? looks like J.J

5/09/2006 12:00:00 PM  
Blogger soqso said...

I went to look at the Philedelphia Newspaper link at http://newspaperads.philly.com/rop/ads.aspx advid=408750&adid=2947506&cat=5804 and it now is an ad for an Attorney. Zennie20 is this what you originally saw or has the ad changed?

5/09/2006 12:12:00 PM  
Blogger Ken said...

Posted this below, but this is the active thread of the moment. PLEASE let me know if this is totally from left field...

So, has anyone acknowledged the fact that the "Rachel" in the code could refer to Rachel Nave, granddaughter of S.K. Nave? There's some stuff I read above about M. Sontag @ GPC listing Nave as one of his favorite authors, and some other stuff (in-game or not?) about suspicious circumstances around S.K. Nave's death. I just don't have the brainpower to put it all together...except for this: a knave is another word for a jack. Not very subtle, but interesting.

Something else that I don't know what to do with. In Rachel Nave's amazon list(http://www.amazon.com/gp/richpub/listmania/fullview/1TDA72A9PXIMY/ref=cm_lm_pdp_title_full/104-6985386-8733503), she mentions a tesseract: Four-dimensional hypercube; its vertices are (+/-1, +/-1, +/-1, +/-1). It is a polychoron formed from eight equal cube cells that are perpendicular to each other at their faces. It is the tetraspace analog to the square in planespace and the cube in realmspace. In some literature, the term tesseract refers to the inner projection of a tetracube into realmspace, which looks like a cube within a cube.


Anyway, just wanted to get that all down before I forgot.

Could the pic of Alvar, theorized in some places to possibly be a woman, be S.K. Nave? Related to Jack? Though, I like the Locke's father stuff...

5/09/2006 12:14:00 PM  
Blogger Scott said...

Personally I think there is a better chance of Locke's Dad being the real "Sawyer" (the one who's con resulted in the death of our sawyer's parents). THink about it, Locke's dad is a con man, were not sure of his real name, hes of the right age.... PLus I doubt that Alvar Hanso would have gotten himself in the money problems Lockes dad did nor would he have had to steal a kidney from his son.

5/09/2006 12:20:00 PM  
Blogger Deannacat said...

UNLESS he's in over his head. Persephone did ask if was hiding.
I've thought he's the original Sawyer, too, though. And I think those thugs he ripped off are going to end up responsible for Locke's being in a wheelchair.

5/09/2006 12:29:00 PM  
Blogger ChrisTF said...

Persephones text under Alvar Hanso's picture, says "It doesn't match anyone else?"

The strange part is, it says "it" not "he" which would point at Alvar. By saying IT, it is as if they keep the gender, or, what it is, a secret.
Cause they say "it doesnt match *anyone* else" They can't be meaning the picture, that would be "anything" else.
It always struck me as strange, that single line, I may be stuck on that particular thing to see the big picture, but its bugging me.

5/09/2006 12:35:00 PM  
Blogger FeaR-ME said...

but we can clearly see that's a man's image

5/09/2006 12:46:00 PM  
Blogger ChrisTF said...

I agree..but why the "it" ? :P

5/09/2006 12:47:00 PM  
Blogger Deannacat said...

Bad grammer?

5/09/2006 12:48:00 PM  
Blogger HEARTandSYNAPSE said...

i still think everything is pointing at Alvar Hanso actually being a woman.
I think the Locke/missing organs thing is interesting, but Locke's dad was mansion rich, not global corporation rich.

5/09/2006 12:48:00 PM  
Blogger FeaR-ME said...

People! It's time to go to the movies! The Special Thanks section that has "The hanso Foundation" at Mission Impossible 3 is NOT the only Exp-game thing on the movie. I've read somewhere in the ABC site that there is a hidden in-game webpage address into the movie, the page would be of great matter to the game. So go to the movies, start downloading, steal it, whatever you guys do, but whatch M:I-3 with triple-attention!!! We must find the link!

5/09/2006 12:53:00 PM  
Blogger Acts4Food said...

So have we just decided to believe the hanso foundation that gary troup is a liar??? Im not saying it is ingame but I think it was dismissed pretty quick... try garytroup.net... can someone whois or whatever that site...

5/09/2006 12:53:00 PM  
Blogger ChrisTF said...

Actually, I doubt that ABC's marketing would make a bad grammar like that. They must of done it intentionally.

5/09/2006 12:55:00 PM  
Blogger FeaR-ME said...

heartandsynapse: have thought of double-identidy requires double-life?

5/09/2006 12:56:00 PM  
Blogger FeaR-ME said...

christf: My brazilian-english could make a bad grammar like that, not abc's one, u're right, Intentionally.

But we can presume that persephone call him IT to emphasize her disdain for Alvar... Everybody is sayin that Alvar could be a woman... I really doubt of that

5/09/2006 01:03:00 PM  
Blogger natevoodoo said...

If I were to match that grainy Alvar Hanso picture to any of the actors we've seen in the TV show: It would have to be the fake Henry Gale.
Same nose, sunken eyes, different hair.

Since Michael rescued this man (to bargain for his son, or bc he's become an Other) he must be important to the Others. Not just someone to kill to prevent from talking.
So either he is "Him" or Alvar Hanso. Or just a relation like his son.
If Alvar Hanso was life extended like Joop the Orangutan that would explain him being young, and would also explain why he's so good mentally manipulating everyone.

I listened to the audiobook. It's cheesy, on purpose I would guess. But it's entertaining enough. And the references to show elements are funny.
It doesn't say anything disparaging about Hanso foundation or Widmore as companies specifically. It does say some nasty things about Mittelwerk. Which might be his motivation for writing an PR ad in a newspaper.

2 and a half cents, Nate

5/09/2006 01:06:00 PM  
Blogger ChrisTF said...

Where did you find the information about a possible link in the MI:3 movie? Got a url?

5/09/2006 01:07:00 PM  
Blogger kickerkb said...

the it ya'll refer to is talking about the picture itself...not the person in the picture

"Notice the grainy far away picture? It doesn't match anyone else."

5/09/2006 01:07:00 PM  
Blogger Lino said...

About Alvar beeing a woman, what evidences point to that conclusion?

Plus, when we used the first clue and called those Hanso Foundation tel numbers, didnt someone say "Where is Hanso? Where have you done to HIM?" ?

5/09/2006 01:07:00 PM  
Blogger b!X said...

Um, the "it" refers to the photograph, which is an "it".

5/09/2006 01:12:00 PM  
Blogger Best Of Morocco said...

Guys, I think we should keep an eye on http://www.insidetheexperience.com/ the official blog of the series.
I'm sure that they will lead us to some interesting stuff if we don't know it yet.

5/09/2006 01:14:00 PM  
Blogger Acts4Food said...

Lol... I love that we're still talking about this picture stuff but didnt we get a new clue today??

5/09/2006 01:14:00 PM  
Blogger ChrisTF said...

Yes, but the comment "It doesn't match anyone else?" Makes no sense by itself, but if read with "Notice the grainy far away picture?" it works. :p

5/09/2006 01:15:00 PM  
Blogger FeaR-ME said...

christf: No I don't =( I've tried to find it again at ABC's site but i couldn't, I'm so sorry but I really can't remember where's it, maybe cause' was a news ad, don't know... but i keep trying to find....

kickerkb: but if was a reference to the picture wouldn't be "Notice the grainy far away picture? It doesn't match ANYONE else." Again we fall into "Believe on the clue or believe on the abc's bad grammar"

5/09/2006 01:16:00 PM  
Blogger Stefanie Bowen said...

Re: the Namaste at the end of the Hanso messages

Namaste is a Yogic greeting that means "Seek the inner light of life" (or roughly that, it's hard to translate these things)...it makes sense when you pair it with the 108 sins, and the 'Dharma Initiative' as dharma is 'doing what is right' etc.

Anyone see a pattern? I think they ARE a religious company...just not in a conventional way.

5/09/2006 01:21:00 PM  
Blogger kickerkb said...

Stef: The reason I noted them as being an unreligious company was due to the things they're studying. Life extension, eliminating all diseases, genome work and the mathematical deal(When you take into account what we know from the Valenzetti Book). All of these things could be considered by some to be "playing god".

5/09/2006 01:36:00 PM  
Blogger HEARTandSYNAPSE said...

About Alvar beeing a woman, what evidences point to that conclusion?

Plus, when we used the first clue and called those Hanso Foundation tel numbers, didnt someone say "Where is Hanso? Where have you done to HIM?" ?

but you could argue this is further proof. alvar hanso may have existed. but this could suggest that someone has uncovered someone else (female, imo) who has disposed of Alvar and is posing as him.

the reason I thought this was in the text after the world map, the text moves around a lot, throwing 'where is he' together in a way that, to me, emphasized 'she'.

add this to the fact that we have NO picture of 'him' aside from one that a clue has made a point of emphasizing the fact it is 'grainy' and doesnt fit with the others.

we also have no picture of liddy wales.

a lot of things are pointing this way.

5/09/2006 01:36:00 PM  
Blogger ambersumiko said...

As for the bad grammar.. it has happened on the site before. Well mistakes at least..


If you scroll down a bit past the 1/4 mark, there's a picture of the 'Important News' section which can be found on the front page, bottom left of the Hanso site.

I don't know if they've corrected it.. but before there was a picture of a city with the words '...and our OUR work for a safer environment.'

So yes, even they can screw up the grammar or spell-checking every once in awhile.

5/09/2006 01:38:00 PM  
Blogger Deannacat said...

Egad! It that's the official blog it sure is a bore. I mean, I'll keep an eye on it, just like I do everything else, but I won't enjoy it. =oP

Anyway, so I've been looking at Bad Twin at Borders for the last few weeks. Anybody actually own it? Is it worth buying?

Stefanie is right. The whole show has strong spiritual overtones and has had almost from ep 1. The Hanso site makes the company out to be a godsend for mankind. On the other hand, as we all know, just because you think you know what's right doesn't mean you really do and power corrupts. Perhaps Alvar started the thing off with the best of intentions, and many areas of the company may well still have good intensions (the thing about Sri Lanka and how "it just isn't right") but (Evil Dr?)Mittlewerk has somehow taken control. Maybe he is in hiding. Maybe he was even on the plane...

5/09/2006 01:41:00 PM  
Blogger zennie20 said...

To soqso:
No, that's not what I originally saw. The link must be messed up. Here is is again: http://newspaperads.philly.com/ROP/ads.aspx?advid=408750&adid=2947506&cat=5804

And here is a direct link to the GIF image: http://img.travidia.com/rop-ad/2947506

I wanted to keep all the Philly.com stuff around it to show it was really posted on there. It would have been cool if it was only available for a short time then pulled in place of another clue, but that is not the case.

5/09/2006 01:42:00 PM  
Blogger k.barrick said...

RSS feed says the Hanso profile was just updated @ 1:07...

I love me my RSS feed.

5/09/2006 01:47:00 PM  
Blogger smoknjo said...

how do you get the feed?

5/09/2006 01:57:00 PM  
Blogger Deannacat said...

Anybody else notice how the music stops when you go to the Exec Bios page? There is sound there but it's more like...I don't know...an eerie, almost mechanical noise. Was that like that yesterday?

Also, I can't go to Mathematical Forcasting until I go to some other project first on Active Projects page. Weird

5/09/2006 02:00:00 PM  
Blogger HEARTandSYNAPSE said...

minor thing

when Persephone says 'it doesn't match anyone else' it is highlighting the fact that Alvar has a date under his picture, and nobody else does.


5/09/2006 02:01:00 PM  
Blogger kickerkb said...

I searched his profile for ten minutes, every single bit of it looking for a new link or anything that's been changed and couldn't find anything.

Anyone else having any luck?

5/09/2006 02:01:00 PM  
Blogger DuckHuntLogic said...

just checked the news letter - no new messages....lame.

5/09/2006 02:03:00 PM  
Blogger k.barrick said...

Click on the RSS next to the login... something's always appeared whenever an update has happened. Not sure if it ALWAYS pertains to the exact page it mentions... not sure how RSS feeds work...just know how to press a button.

5/09/2006 02:03:00 PM  
Blogger DuckHuntLogic said...

I clicked the RSS feed button directly on the page and it's now working. I don't have a reader so it just pops up a new page, the latest one said that the Hanso page had been updated...weird. Could this mean that Persephone is able to hack the RSS feed as well??


That's the direct link to Hanso's page...nothing new though...and again, lame.


5/09/2006 02:05:00 PM  
Blogger kickerkb said...

why would it say that it's been updated when nothing has changed.

5/09/2006 02:07:00 PM  
Blogger ambersumiko said...

Smokjno:You can also get the feed here.. and a bit of info. how it works.


I believe it's the third section down.

5/09/2006 02:08:00 PM  
Blogger k.barrick said...

The RSS feed takes me directly to the exec. bios page...not the main page. And while impatiently regretting me posting something here about the RSS feed.... I noticed something about the Mittlewerk picture. Besides it being the ONLY pic that's not from Getty, the building in the back kinda looks like the building from the Hanso pic. And it looks like it's been photo-shopped, layered.... I'm thinkin' that one of the next few clues is gonna be with Mittlewerk.

5/09/2006 02:09:00 PM  
Blogger ambersumiko said...

Okay, this may be completely old news.. but did you know that there is space under Joop's name to type in the Joop's corner page? Click right under it. Doesn't do anything when I type there though..

Yep, no sound on the bio's page for me either..

5/09/2006 02:12:00 PM  
Blogger ambersumiko said...

and the only bio that has a signature underneath is Mittlewerk's.. why is that? Doesn't it look like an old person's writing..? hehe just me?

5/09/2006 02:15:00 PM  
Blogger smoknjo said...

I was thinking RSS feeds meant you could subscribe to get an email when there is an update, versus simply looking and clicking the button ... curious ... clicking the button .... entering the code ... irony?

5/09/2006 02:16:00 PM  
Blogger Dennis said...


We are sure of his real name - It was revealed in "Lockdown" (S2 E17):

[We see a concerned look cross Helen's face as she's reading the obits.]
HELEN: John? John, what's your father's name?
HELEN: Is it Anthony -- Anthony Cooper?
LOCKE: Yes, that's right.
HELEN: He's dead.

BTW, I don't think he is Hanso, but if he was, that could expain why Hanso has been missing - he was sick becasue he needed a kidney transplant.

5/09/2006 02:19:00 PM  
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5/09/2006 02:20:00 PM  
Blogger AlohaPrincess said...

For some reason when I go to the map it won't go past Paris!! It didn't do this the first few times. Anyway I know that somewhere Persephone says "he" for the pic of Alvar. I can't say exactly where (cause I can't check) but I'm pretty sure it's before the 'where is he' flies across the screen.

5/09/2006 02:23:00 PM  
Blogger lostgrrl said...

I wanted to post this a lot earlier but it looked like your server went down for a while (not surprising with 106,000 hits)....

Anyway, a comment on the ad...is this written from the point of view of the Hanso Foundation trying to engage in a cover-up or are the PTB trying to tell us not to look to Bad Twin for clues? If the latter, then why would the references be in Bad Twin in the first place?

5/09/2006 02:34:00 PM  
Blogger adedmat said...

lostgrrl, I was wondering the same thing. I haven't read the book but so far I heard only a few minor references to hanso. So far nothing that would warrant that kind of letter from Hanso.

5/09/2006 02:51:00 PM  
Blogger k.barrick said...

Dude...I'm SO not going through anagram drama with "Dr. Thomas Werner Mittelwerk." Someone else can take that up.

And yep. I'm saying that because that's what I've been doing for the past 2 hours.

5/09/2006 02:52:00 PM  
Blogger Zach said...

I'm not sure if it is just me but sometimes the skip intro button is missing.

Any thoughts?

5/09/2006 02:55:00 PM  
Blogger rhettoric said...

Re: Religion and the Hanso Foundation

There have been religious/spiritual overtones throughout Lost and it's a clear undercurrent to the Hanso organization (the use of "namaste" the yin/yang incorporationinto their logo). I'm not sure how much cross-speculation is worthwhile, but much of the Others behavior has seemed strongly cult-like to me (the use of drugs to keep claire docile, the overwhelming interest in children, dialogue such as Fenry's "He's a great man!", the fervent devotio, as well as their apparent ability to recruit Michael).

The fact that the others are quite possibly former scientists who are/were employed by Hanso/Dharma makes these religious implications even more curious since scientists aren't known for being particularly devout.

So far, the religious undercurrents have not played a large role in the game. Other than the inconsistencies betweenthe superficial use of harmoneous phrases and symbols and Hanso's actual influence in the world having much darker undertones, there hasn't been much evidence in this arena. Still, fun to speculate about.

Re: the gender of Hanso. All of the references to Hanso in public (though they are admittedly rare) confirm that he is, indeed, male. I think there's even an oblique reference to him in Bad Twin about how he was "a gentleman."

The picture is deliberately grainy and indistinct (indeed, much of the meat of the most recent clue is to point out how indistinct it is!). Liddy's picture is still a mystery but other than both being involved with the Hanso Foundation, there is nothing else linking these two. If I were to guess, I would say Liddy is going to become an additional character at some future point as I believe middlewerk will.

It seems to me that the game is still largely in an expository stage, letting people know that haven't been rabid fans of Lost who Hanso is, and the possibly nefarious influence of the Hanso Foundation.

5/09/2006 02:58:00 PM  
Blogger Deannacat said...

Anybody notice that on the Mental Health page the Hanso quote at the top is a link? It just flips out the "Inquire Today" window, but I don't remember that from yesterday...

5/09/2006 03:02:00 PM  
Blogger natevoodoo said...

Re: Bad Twin

I listened to the audiobook. It's cheesy, on purpose I would guess. But it's entertaining enough. And the references to show elements are funny.
It doesn't say anything disparaging about Hanso foundation or Widmore as companies specifically. It does say some nasty things about Mittelwerk. Which might be his motivation for writing an PR ad in a newspaper.

5/09/2006 03:02:00 PM  
Blogger tekgirl said...

I notcied the 'inquire now' link on the mental health page a couple of days ago, assumed it had already been mentioned since you can't get any further with it, same as the other logins/links on the site.

5/09/2006 03:08:00 PM  
Blogger Rachel said...

Great... now I feel the need to buy the book. But I won't fall into the marketing ploy nope not me... I'll just Google every thing I can about the book, or get someone else to buy it for me >:)

5/09/2006 03:29:00 PM  
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5/09/2006 03:33:00 PM  
Blogger Deannacat said...

You know, if Alvar "made his mark" during WWII he would be a very old man. The end of the war was 61 years ago and he'd have to be at least an adult before he could make that mark. Of course, if your company has it's very own Life Extension Project going on you're going to benefit from that...right? So, he'd be between 80ish and say, Joop's age, 105. He may look much younger, but there could be side effects. Back to Locke's father=Alvar Hanso; I wonder if the treatment could cause kidney failure.

5/09/2006 03:41:00 PM  
Blogger Acts4Food said...

The clip on the gary troup site with the pres. speech... was that the clip that was orig. on the hanso site for a few minutes??? Download the audio clip for the excerpt for the book at garytroupbooks.com

5/09/2006 03:43:00 PM  
Blogger Acts4Food said...

or garytroup.net

5/09/2006 03:44:00 PM  
Blogger Acts4Food said...

ok that was wierd... now Im getting the audio excerpt...

5/09/2006 03:46:00 PM  
Blogger wendyzski said...

RSS Feed entry - "Alvar Hanso Bio Updated". Appears to reference the link we all found yesterday.

5/09/2006 04:08:00 PM  
Blogger Grazzia said...

i did some search on the name Alvar and it says it's a typical male name... :/

5/09/2006 04:16:00 PM  
Blogger Lino said...

Maybe Alvar = Joop :D

5/09/2006 04:23:00 PM  
Blogger Push_Tushkin said...

There has to be something more to these newspaper ads than just "something neat." It seems like it would cost a considerable amount of money and time to publish this ad across the country in various papers. Has anyone looked into there being an actual clue there?

5/09/2006 04:24:00 PM  
Blogger Nek Regnis said...

"Anybody notice that on the Mental Health page the Hanso quote at the top is a link? It just flips out the "Inquire Today" window, but I don't remember that from yesterday..."

Curious, but I'm guessing glitch. Are you all utilizing your tab buttons when exploring the pages? You should b/c it reveals the hidden links.

5/09/2006 04:52:00 PM  
Blogger fanta said...

im not sure if anyone noticed but... in the last episode, sawyer was reading the novel called "bad twins"... he was about to discover who was it by... but jack burned it... btw, it was a transcript.. not a original book

5/09/2006 05:04:00 PM  
Blogger sarahc99 said...

just watched orientation ep in uk and remember the red egyptian hieroglyphics, they mean cause of death. persephone leaves her codes in red. hieroglyphs themselves, were called τὰ ἱερογλυφικά (γράμματα) / tà ʰieroglyfiká (grámmata), that is "graven characters" on monuments (such as stelae, temples and tombs). maybe alvar's tomb is somewhere on the island with the symbols on it

5/09/2006 05:09:00 PM  
Blogger mykull said...

the ad works as just that--an advertisement. primarily for the book BAD TWIN but also for the lost game and for lost the tv show. they're all owned by abc. it's a brilliant marketing scheme.

5/09/2006 05:11:00 PM  
Blogger sarahc99 said...


5/09/2006 05:32:00 PM  
Blogger Pistolharris said...

Has anybody scanned 'Bad Twin' for any references to 'SAFE 9'? Persephone's cryptic and much-debated clue is revealed, then the very next day we have these advertisements drawing our attention to 'Bad Twin'. Coincedence?

5/09/2006 05:33:00 PM  
Blogger jefferia4 said...

hey that thomas mittlewerks profile thing i was just typing random words into it and i noticed the clock said obey instead of the time and it lead me to this other site. and gave me a password i would tell you but it would ruin all the fun just wait and watch for the clock to say obey

5/09/2006 05:50:00 PM  
Blogger FeaR-ME said...

true??? I'll try now!

5/09/2006 05:53:00 PM  
Blogger sarahc99 said...

oh you tease - can't wait

5/09/2006 05:54:00 PM  
Blogger FeaR-ME said...

man, you cant enter anything there... when I type a word and press enter it doesn't do anything

5/09/2006 05:56:00 PM  
Blogger gennessee said...

the "obey" thing came up for me too... while i was reading this blog, and not even doing anything on the hanso site. Maybe it shows up at a certain time, or after spending an amount of time on the site?

5/09/2006 05:56:00 PM  
Blogger FeaR-ME said...

gennessee in where you were into the site?

5/09/2006 05:58:00 PM  
Blogger jefferia4 said...

well im upset now because i cant get it to say obey again

i dont know if i accidentally put in a correct password.

Well anyways it sent me to a link called
http://www.sublymonal.com/ and i followed the cues then it gave me a pass word ill give you that at least. Make you guys do some work

5/09/2006 05:59:00 PM  
Blogger gennessee said...

I was on the main page.

5/09/2006 05:59:00 PM  
Blogger FeaR-ME said...

it's only here or the link on alvar's profile is gone? clear ur cache and check please

5/09/2006 06:00:00 PM  
Blogger FeaR-ME said...


5/09/2006 06:02:00 PM  
Blogger BeachRosie said...

I still have the time-- no 'obey.' Anyone figure out how to switch the clock yet?

5/09/2006 06:04:00 PM  
Blogger hoopleton said...

there is definitely a text box on mittelwerk's site

5/09/2006 06:05:00 PM  
Blogger FeaR-ME said...

Wow is really that in-game? what is this? i got the pass!

5/09/2006 06:05:00 PM  
Blogger FeaR-ME said...

jefferia4 do you know what time was when the obey thing appear??

5/09/2006 06:07:00 PM  
Blogger jefferia4 said...

it was like 15 minutes ago. I just had that hanso page open and was checking my e-mail and heard a weird noise looked at the hanso page and noticed the clock was replaced with the words obey blinking.....while i was on the thomas mittlewerks profile

5/09/2006 06:09:00 PM  
Blogger gennessee said...

For me it was after 3:30 but I'm not sure exactly... I wonder if it could have been when the clock said 15:42.

5/09/2006 06:10:00 PM  
Blogger FeaR-ME said...

i just can't believe it... doesn't seem like anything we've seen so far... the animation saying "Code: c-o-d-e" it's so easy... send an email to this blog with this clue, please

5/09/2006 06:14:00 PM  
Blogger Lino said...

I also got the code but... Code for what?

5/09/2006 06:15:00 PM  
Blogger gennessee said...

I wonder what the significance of the name of the new site is. I noticed in the title it's written subLYMONal.

5/09/2006 06:15:00 PM  
Blogger Lord Wallace said...

SET your compy clock to 0:15 and a crackly sound is heard and the clock reads OB: EY for a minute and crackles back to normal after a minute!

5/09/2006 06:20:00 PM  
Blogger gennessee said...

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5/09/2006 06:20:00 PM  
Blogger Lord Wallace said...

It must be at XX:15 then?

5/09/2006 06:22:00 PM  
Blogger gennessee said...

Maybe xx:15 and xx:42?

5/09/2006 06:23:00 PM  
Blogger Lino said...

IT appeared in here at 7:15. Dude, the code is the name of a band! Dont know if its in game or just coincidence. But they have a website!

5/09/2006 06:24:00 PM  
Blogger jefferia4 said...

yeah it might be 42 because it was about that time when it happened

5/09/2006 06:25:00 PM  
Blogger Lord Wallace said...

Yeah 42 works for me too. On any page ;)

5/09/2006 06:25:00 PM  
Blogger Lino said...

Looking at their website, I dont think they are in game. I think they are real. But you can look at wikipedia for the term

5/09/2006 06:27:00 PM  
Blogger gennessee said...

@Lino... Well that code is a pretty common phrase; it's probably just a coincidence. Good name for a band though ... maybe they'll gain some fans. ;)

5/09/2006 06:27:00 PM  
Blogger sarahc99 said...

also works if you change your pc clock to xx.41.57, wait 3 secs and it changes

5/09/2006 06:28:00 PM  
Blogger Lino said...

I didnt know what it meant :D Not a english native speaker

5/09/2006 06:30:00 PM  
Blogger Richard said...

so, the code: Heir Apparent
what to do with this?
not working in Mittelwork text box nor the login.

5/09/2006 06:42:00 PM  
Blogger jeph said...

Richard, I had to try it a couple of times to get it to work. Keep trying!

5/09/2006 06:44:00 PM  
Blogger Sean said...

richard, I got it to work after relogging in with breaking strain. I'm now on the page and can make out "he must be silenced" in the blue grid, but I can't make out the red grid: "Gary Troup" etc???

5/09/2006 06:50:00 PM  
Blogger momeees said...

HAnso Ad is in the NY Times today, page A16.

5/10/2006 07:48:00 AM  
Blogger utherpindraco said...

anyone see mission imposible 3

i saw this on another site

"In 'Mission: Impossible 3' if you watch the end credits, you will notice the last name listed in the 'Special Thanks' section is The Hanso Foundation."

5/12/2006 01:44:00 PM  
Blogger MJP31 said...

I have yet to see this mentioned...but I think there is a clue in this ad. I have found two masseages in the ad. They are written backwards (so you'd need a mirror to read it correctly) and are in fine gray print. Look in the space between the 2nd and third paragrap. All I can make out is "If you are one, know one". It looks like there is something else written below that line but I can't make it out yt. Also at the very bttom of the ad above the Hanso logo is another message-Happy Mothers Day!

I don't know if this has been found yet, but go to Garytroup.com there is a website there-although not about Gary TRoup-about a man amed Enzo Valenzetti. There's a black/white picture there-could this be Alvar?
Enjoy the site and all links! I'm still going through it-there's so much to this game it's unreal!

5/27/2006 12:13:00 PM  

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