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Clue #30 - Gary Troup Info (4) Displeasure with BAD TWIN

A new letter was found in the right hand "news" column on thehansofoundation.org website. Click HERE to see a letter from Hugh McIntyre to Hyperion Books. HERE is the parent directory in which the letter was contained. The letter is found in the "Paris" folder but there is also an empty (for now) folder for "London".

*Thanks to Deanna, Matt, Courtney, Robert, & Choff for noticing first.

Boy, they sure are trying to think of ways to get us to buy that book! If you don't want to pony up the cash or take the time to read. See the post above this one for a thorough summary of pertinant info or check out Clue #25 and Clue #19 . They should tell you all you need to know.

Both the Persephone & Bad Twin plotlines are revealing corruption and instability in the Hanso Foundation. Clear causes and effects have yet to be clearly articulated. We are left to continue with our best guessing...


Blogger Marc said...

Can someone also check to see if the newspaper ad is stegged?

No hidden web addy found in the .pdf

5/12/2006 02:43:00 PM  
Blogger chaseblogger@hotmail.com said...


Interesting article on the name Persephone from Greek mythology - could there be a theme here? Perhaps Persephone is the daughter of Alvar Hanso??

5/12/2006 02:44:00 PM  
Blogger Arthur said...

How on earth did you find that so fast? I can't see the press release anywhere on thehansofoundation.org site.

5/12/2006 02:49:00 PM  
Blogger mamakau said...

I noticed there's a space left for Hugh McIntyre's signature, but he didn't sign it; and looking back at all his letters written in the past, he didn't sign those either, along with his bio on the website, what's this guy got against signing his name?

5/12/2006 02:49:00 PM  
Blogger Angel21 said...

Posted on the other comments section too...Did anyone check out the Gary Troup site (the abc one)? On the links page there is a hidden link at the top to THF.org. (Sorry if this is old news).

5/12/2006 02:50:00 PM  
Blogger rubygreeneyes said...

anyone notice that when you leave the hanso site and come back here (or another site) in the same browser that the hanso music is still playing? I'm guessing its just web techy stuff, but it's kinda creepy how it doesn't stop. I can't find the letter posted on the hanso site, either.

5/12/2006 02:59:00 PM  
Blogger Joosh said...

Yeah, my net is messed up sometimes, it'll keep playing the THF sound, or a song from someone's myspace...I've gotten into the habit of manually stopping music when I'm on pages now. Eventually I have 10 things playing over one another.

5/12/2006 03:02:00 PM  
Blogger smoknjo said...

the new press release is on the main homepage for THF ... you can't miss it

5/12/2006 03:04:00 PM  
Blogger famous58 said...

I can't help noticing the formating of the letter. Why have words breaking at the end of a line? Perhaps there is a hidden message in all of these releases based on their formating?

Also, there seems to be a couple typos. Obviuosly we found this before it was "supposed" to be found. I'm curious to see if they change it at all, and signature, etc.

5/12/2006 03:06:00 PM  
Blogger b!X said...

In the news box on the lower right of the Hanso site is a new update. It includes a link to a gif of the newspaper ad. You then have to remove the filename of that gif from your location bar and look inside the directory it's in That's where the pdf of the letter is.

5/12/2006 03:06:00 PM  
Blogger Houses_Vicodin said...

So you saw this on the actual hanso site? I have cleared my cache and still can't see it. I have noticed that I can't see clues until about a day after you all post them here... I don't know why...

5/12/2006 03:13:00 PM  
Blogger jessandgabesmom said...

This is sort of OT to the game, but this week there is a great article on LOST in Entertainment Weekly magazines. I just got mine today and I couldn't put it down. Talks about the finale and gives little hints here and there. Too much for me to type right now. I noticed it's online too, I think anyone can read it there.


Sounds like the finale is gonna rock!

5/12/2006 03:14:00 PM  
Blogger Deannacat said...

Hey House! Yes, it's in the "News" on the right hand side above the orange pollution picture.

5/12/2006 03:15:00 PM  
Blogger Ange said...

On garytroupooks.com page there is now a header on the main page that says:
We have received many calls and e-mails asking about the recent advertising campaign done by the Hanso Foundation about our recent publication of BAD TWIN. While we can't respond to you individually on this matter, please know that this issue is of great concern to us, and we are investigating what actions we should or shouldn't take in relation to this complaint. Meanwhile, thank you for your attention and consideration.

5/12/2006 03:36:00 PM  
Blogger Deannacat said...

Ya know, I think Alvar Hanso looks like Phillip Seymore Hoffman...

and he's in MI:III


5/12/2006 03:54:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

has anyone notice a link between the widmoore group and some of the losties? On the board of directors you will se Mittlewerk, Huge McIntyre and Lockes dad, Anthony B. Cooper? Seems like a legit site

5/12/2006 03:55:00 PM  
Blogger nb said...


I downloaded the PDF but all i get is rubbish gibberish because a menu appears on Word saying which langauge do you want the letter to be shown as. I click OK and then just random squares and symbols come up

Can anyone help?

5/12/2006 04:00:00 PM  
Blogger Deannacat said...

nb: Here's the site for the new letter.


5/12/2006 04:04:00 PM  
Blogger Earendil said...


You know, now that I look at his picture, he looks like a mannequin for a clothes store. Something about his pose and "plastic smile"...

5/12/2006 04:04:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Do these projects really exsist? I hope not, $23 million USD contract?


I have googled this and find nothing...is it related to the game or have they devised this to drive our interest until next season?

5/12/2006 04:05:00 PM  
Blogger nb said...

yeh i know the site and i click on it but when it opens with word, i just get random squares and symbols, not words...

5/12/2006 04:05:00 PM  
Blogger sarahc99 said...

why does it say "on the behalf of 'the' alvar hanso.." the word 'the' shouldn't be there. looking for another out of place word to see if it makes a clue

5/12/2006 04:06:00 PM  
Blogger Deannacat said...

No kidding, it kinda does. =o) Still...it could be Hoffman. That almost makes sense because Abrams and he just did MI:III.

5/12/2006 04:07:00 PM  
Blogger Louis said...

I'm probably way behind the curve on this but, checking out the widmoregroup.com, I went to "Current Projects," then clicked on "Project Sparta." Up came a message asking me for my user name and password. That's as far as I got.

Is this old news?

5/12/2006 04:09:00 PM  
Blogger Deannacat said...

Oh, I don't know about that, nb. On mine, the ad kust opens up in Mozilla, but when I look at the letter my Adobe Reader pops it right open. Must have a setting somewhere to look at pdf in Word and it can't see it.

5/12/2006 04:11:00 PM  
Blogger Deannacat said...

Yeah, louis, it kinda is. The current thinking is that that site is fake. On the blog homepage on the right hand side there is a REFERENCES section that lists a ton of sites, if you want to have a go at that.

5/12/2006 04:14:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...


Did you notice that Lockes dad is on the board? As well as Hugh McIntyre and Thomas Mittelwerk? They are pulling out all the stops on this 'experience'

5/12/2006 04:16:00 PM  
Blogger Karl said...

Yes, that site looks pretty fake, why would they use a screen shot from the show for a corporate picture?

5/12/2006 04:18:00 PM  
Blogger Louis said...

OK, thanks. The other thing is, if you click on "Battersea Power Station," you go to a London website that seems legit. No references to Hanso, etc.

5/12/2006 04:19:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...


Very true, I was skeptical of that picture as well, we already know where the other 2 come from, I am seeing if the other t shots on that site are stock photo's you can purchase online, not having much luck though...


5/12/2006 04:21:00 PM  
Blogger Deannacat said...

Battersea Power Station is a real place.

5/12/2006 04:22:00 PM  
Blogger nb said...

Have you noticed how it says BELOVED?

Is that a hint that possible Alvar is dead?

5/12/2006 04:25:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

I think it is a dead end, but why would that link be on a site with references to lost? Also, does anyone know what construction company Michael worked for? Could it be Widmore Construction?

5/12/2006 04:27:00 PM  
Blogger sarahc99 said...

nb - i thought too and why say 'the' alvar hanso, surely that means he's not a person, maybe that's why no-one's ever seen him and he's got a dodgy photo? the photo was created in the way that we can't really make out who he is, you can see mittelwerk's face clearly.

5/12/2006 04:29:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

If Alvar was a real person and was so into his company, wouldn't he be very proud of his works. Maybe his disfigured in someway?

5/12/2006 04:33:00 PM  
Blogger Karl said...

Yes, battersea power station is indeed a real place, I used to go past it on my way to work every day last year. Disused these days though, but they're always doing buiding work around there.

5/12/2006 04:35:00 PM  
Blogger nb said...

I'm thinking what if they secretly killed him for some reason (possibly by Thomas - The 'apparent heir' to the foundation??) and to cover it all up, they pretended that he was alive in 2003 by making a fake photo of him hence the grainy background

But then this would mean that the Orientation video couldn't have been made in 1980 but in 2003 if that picture was made in 2003...

5/12/2006 04:55:00 PM  
Blogger Ryan said...

I get the feeling from their lack of "real clues" and pushing Bad Twin that they are trying to give us time to read it before they release more clues, since it seems like it is going to be pivotal for to the experience... just my own thoughts.

5/12/2006 05:07:00 PM  
Blogger beanpolekt said...

First time blogger. whats up. just a note, i heard earlier that there might be a connection to MI III and i saw the movie today. only connection i noticed was a "special thanks" to the hanso foundation in the credits.

5/12/2006 05:24:00 PM  
Blogger beanpolekt said...

also, i dunno if anyone has posted this yet, but on the THF.com homepage, below the new, there is a picture of a city with the words ... and our our work for a safer environment

im gonna assume thats a typo, BUT when i tab through the homepage, at one point it highlights the whole picure, but next, it shows a seperate button inside the picture. im still working on it but i cant seem to get anything out of it. anybody notice the same thing?

5/12/2006 05:29:00 PM  
Blogger Dharma Leader said...

well ihavent noticed it. but i do think that Alvar is dead indeed. maybe that was the incident they say in the orientation video for the swan? maybe the incident was that they contacted Alvar through the computer and then Alvar told him everything thinking that they could not say it to anyone else. and then the others at THF found out and kiled him. so could the killing of Alvar Hanso be "the incident"?

5/12/2006 05:48:00 PM  
Blogger Marc Drucker said...

notice on the MFI Page, description at top/left has words blanked out?

5/12/2006 05:52:00 PM  
Blogger Nimlith said...

This The poitn that you are seeing highllighted is the link to the gif with the news ad about "Bad Twins". If you roll the news above the photo you will see that this link is not inside the picture itself.

5/12/2006 05:52:00 PM  
Blogger Dharma Leader said...

and someone said that persephone could be Alvars daughter. i am confused in another thing with her. the whole thing with persephone is that she was an innocent maiden and her mothers grief because persephone was abducted, then she was returned..... until the return part doesnt this sound like alex rousseau and her daughter alex? persephone doesnt seem to like the hanso foundation as alex does not like the others as she did let claire go before the operation she was going to have.... so clearly alex knew what was going to happen and didnt like them so she changed all that. clearly the others work for dharma right? well the dharma initiative was funded by hanso so dharma knows a lot whats going on in hanso. could this be alex just using a cover name? i have no clue but its a thought......

5/12/2006 05:56:00 PM  
Blogger mamakau said...

also, if you click on the picture of the city on the main page, it takes you to the "mathematical forecasting initiative" page. Pressing the tab on the main page also reveals a hidden link right on the word "Login" next to the text box located at the bottom right of the screen. (If you type something in that login box, it now tells you "sorry unknown user" instead of just timing out.

5/12/2006 05:59:00 PM  
Blogger cprout said...

There is some possiblity to having someone on the island being persephone becuase if you remember someone claiming to be harolds son. Now I dont know if it was the son or not but since the "pearl" has more tech then the hatch did there very well could be a modern section to the island.

5/12/2006 06:01:00 PM  
Blogger beanpolekt said...

thanks nimlith. i feel a little dumb now.

5/12/2006 06:21:00 PM  
Blogger chaseblogger@hotmail.com said...

To Dharma leader:

I was theorizing that Persephone may be the daughter of Alvar Hanso based on what I read on Wikipedia under the Persephone entry. Turns out she the Greek Goddess of the underworld and daughter to some other important figure. . .sorry I can't remember off hand. But if skim over it, you get the feeling that there may be a reason she calls herself Persephone.

5/12/2006 06:29:00 PM  
Blogger beanpolekt said...

has anyone seen the "lost diary" on ABC.com? ive seen it mentioned on here before, one of the latest entry's says "they have got "my brother" locked up in there or something, which leads me to beleive that this journal is written by one of the others. however, earlier in the journal we are given a name. janelle granger, hermosa beach, CA

anyone make anything of this?

5/12/2006 06:43:00 PM  
Blogger dharmajen said...

If you go to Joops corner, on the top left hand side under the green writing that says "joops corner" there is a text box you can type in. Wonder what this might be for???

5/12/2006 06:46:00 PM  
Blogger Marc said...

The text box in Joop's corner is old news. PLEASE review the rest of the clues before posting in a thread related to a later clue.

5/12/2006 06:48:00 PM  
Blogger Lost_Dharma_108 said...

has any1 thought about persephone being Alvar Hanso???
here's my theory
he has not been seen since 2002
thomas mittelwork wit the help of others imprisoned him within a computer
there was a message save me on one of persephones things
i think he is persephone

5/12/2006 06:53:00 PM  
Blogger beanpolekt said...

good thought. explains the save me. why a girls name?

dont give me this hanso is a woman crap

5/12/2006 07:00:00 PM  
Blogger beanpolekt said...

anyone see a similarity between persephone and walt? first off, when you login she types to you on the newsletter potion of the site, its the same kinda font as the computer in the hatch where michael got a message from walt. she also says gotta go and bye bye.

walt said the same thing to micheal.

if alex rousseu is persephone this makes sense. both captured by the others using the same kind of method of communication.

5/12/2006 07:04:00 PM  
Blogger Lost_Dharma_108 said...

i dont kno y a girls name
it cud be some anagram using hanso that turns out to "Persephone"
or "Ms. Hacker" or "Demeter's Daughter" but i havnt figured that out yet
i dont think hanso is a woman

did any1 notice dr marvin candle in the swan video (1985)
and he changed his name in the pearl video (1980)

but in the pearl ther was a VCR

could this be cloning
and could liddy whales be a clone?


5/12/2006 07:05:00 PM  
Blogger beanpolekt said...

one more thing for now. is www.oceanic-airlines.com a credible site? it has some interesting stuff. also, there is text and a picture behind the main site. if you click and drag you can highlight stuff behind the main template, and i copied and pasted into word and found a picture of claire ticket, and also this message was there.

If anyone should find this message, please get word I'm alive and stranded on an island somewhere in the South Pacific. Please send help soon. Things are bad. And they're getting worse...

5/12/2006 07:06:00 PM  
Blogger Lost_Dharma_108 said...

thats old stuff

5/12/2006 07:07:00 PM  
Blogger harcar2001 said...

this timeline is pretty cool: http://lost.cubit.net/timeline.php?filter=ALL

5/12/2006 07:13:00 PM  
Blogger wisp44 said...

hey, beanpole is talking about a different, new text box under the words, "Joop's Corner."

I will delete this if mistaken...

5/12/2006 07:15:00 PM  
Blogger Christine said...


The Oceanic Airlines website has been out there for awhile. Here's a link to everything that is hidden on the site...


The site is registerd to Disney I believe.

5/12/2006 07:18:00 PM  
Blogger Dedjezter said...

The swan video is also (1980) not (1985)
I have said this before.. it may have been edited after it was made... therefor it retains the original copyright date of 1980 but may have been altered after the INCEDENT.
but yes the name is different not the man... same guy...cloning is a litlle far fetched though.

5/12/2006 07:34:00 PM  
Blogger bagal00 said...

anyone notice the text on joop's corner? it's kinda faded and flickering right now. (maybe, i've been staring at the screen too long) it looks like it could be a ghost outline of a figure (head and shoulders=bust). can't seem to find any links anywhere on the page, though.

5/12/2006 07:38:00 PM  
Blogger mykull said...

Marc, Dharmajen is right: there is a text box directly under "Joop's Corner." This is different than the text box where you can send Joop a message.

The flickering text to the left of Joop webcam has been going on for a week or so now. I'm wondering if anything shows up if you fiddle w/the background colors. However, I cannot for the life of me find out how you do this. I know others have said it's under the HF trademark in lower left corner, but I can't locate anything. Perhaps it doesn't work on Mac Safari?

Anyone else want to give it a try?

5/12/2006 07:56:00 PM  
Blogger Marc said...

Ahh... I see now. I stand corrected Dharmajen (although as a general rule to others just joining the fun, the recommendation stands)

5/12/2006 08:01:00 PM  
Blogger beanpolekt said...

something weird just happened to me while i was looking for that. the joop webcam picture started acting up kinda. no buttons pressed or anything. joop faded out and there picture was centered on a very dark figure. looked like the grim reaper. after this it went back to joop, and his eyes were all darkened out. is this new?

5/12/2006 08:07:00 PM  
Blogger mykull said...

no, old news. it's the guy from the mental health page.

5/12/2006 08:10:00 PM  
Blogger beanpolekt said...

no. i can see that already. it happened again. it happens when i tab through. it tabs down the side list. homepage, executive ect. when i hit tab to go one past the side menu, it happened. a gorrilla i think now. i tried to print screen, but it came up with the webcam portion blacked out.

5/12/2006 08:12:00 PM  
Blogger mykull said...

oh, sorry. are you talking about the webcam pic of joop or the static pic of him on the main page at lower right? or the one of him at upper right?

5/12/2006 08:29:00 PM  
Blogger mamakau said...

beanpolekt: I see what you're talking about...a large shadowy figure...

5/12/2006 08:29:00 PM  
Blogger HEARTandSYNAPSE said...

there's nothing new with joop.

5/12/2006 09:24:00 PM  
Blogger NYStingRay said...

You have to give credit to JJ and the creators of this "game".

Not only are they drumming up business for ABC owned Hyperion Publishing by getting everyone interested in the Bad Twin book, but with it being "May Sweeps" tell me what you were all doing during the commercial breaks this past week. Surely not running to the fridge for a snack and hoping your bladder didn't burst for refusing to step away from your TV screen to use the bathroom, by chance you might miss a "clue" in a commercial. This is ingenious marketing tool, it is no wonder Sprite, Verizon and Monster.Com are participating, and of course all the other advertisers are gladly forking over $$$ for ad time.

For all the impatient souls wondering why there hasn't been a new clue for over 2 hours, this is going to be a long drawn out process. The new season isn't scheduled to begin until November ( after the October 28th date that seems to hold some importance).

Also note, there is another publication of Bad Twin scheduled to be released July 28th. From what I can tell from the pre release synopsius there is no difference from the current book released in May, except this one is from Gale Publishing and is listed for $30.95 from Barnes and Noble compared to the $17.95 for the May book. There is no picture available for the July cover, so one reason for the newer book could be because of some clues in the revised edition.

My point is, we will find out what they want us to find out in time. They have been pretty straight forward with the clues and I am sure they want to get even more people involved and will give everyone a chance to catch up before getting to carried away with information.

Everyone keep up the good work, but stop obsessing over every little detail, and stay focused. it seems some people are grasping at straws looking for the littlest hint of a clue.

Hansofoundation.org...... commerical during May 3rd episode.

SubLYMONal site revealed during May 10th episode.

Big newspaper articles, clear hints to sign up for newsletter and send Joop a message, press releases.

When they want us to know something, they will tell us, but at the same time they want to draw this out all summer and try to get people not yet into this on board without getting to far ahead.

Everyone....Good Work and Good Luck


5/12/2006 09:41:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

try not to be so pompous... you know no more than the rest of us do... you need to realize that and come off your cloud. If you want to have an attitude and think you're better than everyone else, that's fine... but don't post about it and ruin our fun... i'm going to buy and read the book whether it's a marketing scheme or not... i'm going to sit here and comb over every inch of the hanso site every 20 minutes because it's what I want to do and it's fun... there's a clue out there that we haven't found yet... you don't want to find it? that's fine... I'll find it.. or the next guy will find it... but what was the point of your post? to make us feel dumb for playing this game? if you don't like the game, then don't play it... but don't just post for the sole purpose of ruining it for the rest of us.

..word and namaste.....

5/12/2006 09:59:00 PM  
Blogger NYStingRay said...

The topic of this blog was; " Displeasure with Bad Twin" and one of the key lines posted by the administrators of this site was; "Boy, they sure are trying to think of ways to get us to buy that book!"

I was merely commenting in a manner to agree that they are doing everything they can to get as many people interested in this as possible. It is ingenious marketing planning with it being May sweeps, and I was only pointing out their intention of dragging this out until November when the new season starts. We all know there are many parts of the Hansofoundation.org website not yet working, and some that were not before but are now, ie "Obey" became functional when they wanted it to be, and they are not being secretive about revealing what they want you to know.

Don't you think they want as many people following this as possible? If so they are going to take their time with it.

So take that chip off your shoulder and try to enjoy the experience, but don't let the experience take over your life, it will still be going on for many months to come.


5/12/2006 10:08:00 PM  
Blogger DeDJeZTeR said...

has anyone noticed in the Index of /hanso/actionscript
there is a file (IMAGES) that inside you will find a picture of


if this is old news I am sorry.

5/12/2006 10:11:00 PM  
Blogger DeDJeZTeR said...

this is the link



5/12/2006 10:12:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

I wasn't aware of it.... you should email about it...

5/12/2006 10:20:00 PM  
Blogger abbyabitha said...


5/12/2006 10:24:00 PM  
Blogger DeDJeZTeR said...

will do and done

5/12/2006 10:27:00 PM  
Blogger mamakau said...

where is the Index of /hanso/actionscript?

5/12/2006 10:59:00 PM  
Blogger k.barrick said...

Dude. I don't know if this is mentioned... Hell, I don't care all I know is that I got a light bulb moment when I saw the old pic. from the Swan Orientation film.

The Swan Orientation film was filmed in the building that Alvar Hanso is pictured in.

The windows are the same...and it's also similar to the building in the background of Mittelwerk's pic.

5/12/2006 11:06:00 PM  
Blogger DeDJeZTeR said...

mamakau just put the address i listed in your address bar and go... it will bring you right to the picture.

5/12/2006 11:27:00 PM  
Blogger sweetkeri1 said...

I noticed that the date on the message is 12/5/06 are we going back in time or do you think this a typo?

5/12/2006 11:38:00 PM  
Blogger DeDJeZTeR said...


That date is read as May 12, 2006 not Dec. 05, 2006

just a heads up

5/12/2006 11:42:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

that's the way dates work in other countries... they put the day before the month... trippy but true....

...word and namaste....

5/12/2006 11:46:00 PM  
Blogger NYStingRay said...


Most of the world outside the US reads dates from smallest to largest....

Day / Month / Year

so 12/5/06 is the 12th Day of the 5th Month of the 2006 Year (Friday)

5/12/2006 11:49:00 PM  
Blogger sweetkeri1 said...

Ok thank you...I feel stupid now..lol

5/12/2006 11:49:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

don't feel stupid... i actually like it better that way... i wonder what they would say at work if i started using it that way

5/12/2006 11:54:00 PM  
Blogger DeDJeZTeR said...

I know this is a long shot but if any one out there has either the cd's or the actual records of Led Zeppelin albums could they see if the backside of any of them match the picture of charlie found here


On behalf of the Degroots, Alvar Hanso, and all of us here at the Dharma initiative...
Namaste and good luck

Your tour of duty will last for 7 months until November at that point you may continue viewing your T.v. for further instructions...


5/12/2006 11:54:00 PM  
Blogger Richard said...

i'm wondering if you've found anything about the pic of charlie on the hanzo site.
that sounds interesting...

5/13/2006 12:33:00 AM  
Blogger DeDJeZTeR said...

That is the picture I was refering to Richard... at this point I'll look into anything for a possible clue...lol

5/13/2006 12:35:00 AM  
Blogger DeDJeZTeR said...

her is an address with a better shot of the album cover he has... if anyone has the episode 11 The Hunting Party and can watch it. It is the Record that hurly hands to Charlie as Charlie Puts down the Geronimo Jackson Record...
What record is it?
WHo is it?
What songs are on it?
What song does he play off of it?

These are thing's I need to know.

5/13/2006 12:49:00 AM  
Blogger DeDJeZTeR said...

sorry link would be nice...huh?


5/13/2006 12:50:00 AM  
Blogger Asindrew said...

Great pic Dedjezter, i never new charlie had a DS ring, but maybe im just not that observant.
ANyway what happened to charlies finger bandages that says F.a.t.e or L.a.t.e on them?? Just pointless questions to ponder.
Another pointless question to ponder > Sprite is a sponsor of lost in the U.S, yet in AUstralia pepsi sponsors lost. Shouldnt this in some unknown way be a breach of contractual agreement...thingy?
Hmmm i need a new clue before I start seeing commercials as a tie in with lost....

5/13/2006 01:09:00 AM  
Blogger Raoul Duke said...

This could be clutching at straws a little but did anyone else notice that the first letter of each paragraph in the body of the letter spells, "DO IT"? Just a thought. Peace.

5/13/2006 01:13:00 AM  
Blogger DeDJeZTeR said...

these are also in the THF.org files


nothing really there except the aformentioned 2630 under the (V-Neck shirt collar line) at the bottom of hidden_image

5/13/2006 01:39:00 AM  
Blogger Starpossum said...

Not sure if its been mentioned yet but it might be interesting to note that there are several grammar mistakes in the newest THF letter.

5/13/2006 02:28:00 AM  
Blogger Karl said...

What does fastboot.com have to do with THF.org?

5/13/2006 03:10:00 AM  
Blogger nrgwrkr said...

I posted this earlier and I'm posting it again because no one responded and I'm tired of old repeated news. If anyone watches Alias (another JJ show, which I thought might be important due to the credits of MI3) maybe this is relevant. Maybe not, but any lead is good.

misterinvisible mentioned Alias earlier. I watched the show (for the first time) last night and was surprised at some of the things that came up. Since this is JJ's world, I don't count out the two shows being tied together somehow. Some character went to a used bookstore in Geneva (Hanso public appearance) to get a book by Rimbaldi to decipher a code by Joseph Panara. I know someone mentioned a used bookstore somewhere on this blog. Sydney and her guy friend ended up in a German bunker with pics of war planes on the wall. This made me think of Mittlewerk and his past. They also mentioned "Prophet 5" who I assume are the big baddies on Alias, and they said "most of these projects still exist." There are other similarities like the Virgin Mary and Sydney having a double (Bad Twin) for the episode (surgery, not cloning or a twin).

5/13/2006 04:25:00 AM  
Blogger Jazzy Jeff... said...

Starpossum - Also, the letters fi are not actually letters, but the symbol 'fi' - I explained about it on the clue #29 thread. I also mention 'seeing' some sybols in the book cover on valenzetti eqauation book on the garytroup.net website. Might be something, might not.....

5/13/2006 08:53:00 AM  
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5/13/2006 09:01:00 AM  
Blogger Gorgeous Junkie said...

Meh. I am gettingt sick of the marketing. This whole thing is a really cool idea. Please don't sully it by trying to get us to by a book, or a drink sprite.

5/13/2006 09:06:00 AM  
Blogger Karen said...

I haven't seen any mention of this yet....On THF website under Active Projects, Mathematical Forcasting Initiative, it says Copenhagen, Denmark, Friday, 01/05/06. I have looked at past calendars and that date can not be a Friday. Whether it's Jan 5, 06 or May 6, 01 or May 1, 06. The closest I got was January 5th is a Thursday and the next day is Epiphany (a religeous holiday). That's all I got!

5/13/2006 09:32:00 AM  
Blogger Manchot said...

nrgwrkr, Alias and Lost have done some minor crossovers, and therefore share the same universe. In the Alias fourth season episode "The Awful Truth," during Weiss's birthday party, you can hear "You All, Everybody" playing in the background. Also, in the episode "A Clean Conscience," an annoucement can be heard in the airport: "Oceanic Airlines flight to Sydney is now departing."

Although, truth be told, I'd be kind of angry if I found out that the Hanso Foundation had something to do with Rambaldi. On the contrary, the Lost-Alias connection does establish for me that the world of Lost has elements of the supernatural, given that Rambaldi existed in the JJA-verse.

5/13/2006 09:40:00 AM  
Blogger soniasqueaks said...

is anyone else having difficulty loading joop today? i have no problems with the rest of the site, but joop won't load; it only runs The Numbers......

5/13/2006 10:00:00 AM  
Blogger Marc said...


Marketing tie-ins are the nature of the beast. So far, the game designers have kept the sponsorships from interfering with the game experience. When Alvar Hanso floats up to the island on a raft reading "Bad Twin", drinking a Sprite, and talking on his Verizon cell phone, that would be going to far. As of now, they haven't even begun to go into any grey territory.

5/13/2006 10:18:00 AM  
Blogger Karl said...

Nope, Joop loads fine for me. Not as if theres any reason to look at that part of the site at the moment!

5/13/2006 10:21:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

I think we all have to be patient with this. I know I want the answers as much as anyone else. Diligence and patience will help us solve this thing. Many of us, myself included have been reaching. I am not imploring anyone to stop, it is more fun than work. I wonder what kindof impact this is having on productivity?


5/13/2006 10:40:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Oh, someone said that in the US sprite is a sponsor, and in another country it is Pepsi, I think Sprite is a brand from Pepsi.


5/13/2006 10:42:00 AM  
Blogger jessandgabesmom said...

Sprite is actually a Coke product, not Pepsi, so I'm not sure how that works!

5/13/2006 10:47:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Yep, you are correct. My bad.

5/13/2006 10:49:00 AM  
Blogger christy said...

Not suprisingly, the address the letter is addressed to is a Walt Disney Co. address, not actually Hyperion Books.

5/13/2006 11:30:00 AM  
Blogger Marc said...

Hyperion is a division of Disney...

5/13/2006 11:46:00 AM  
Blogger ChipChafleet said...

Ok guys this is my first post, but i think its a good one I was thinking about that pic with Charlie holding the Record and I thought maybee the pics on the back of it are hanso Board members. After i looked at it again i noticed that one of the pics looks like the guy with the bushy hair from the Orreintation videos. He might not be but im pretty sure it is him.

5/13/2006 12:06:00 PM  
Blogger Dharma Leader said...

hey has anyone even considered my theory as Alvar was being controlled or something and something bad was going on and he contacted someone in the swan or something and that is what the incident was, a major leak of info and thats why in the video it says do not attempt to use a computer for anything else because another incident could happen.

Here is what i said befor:

"well i havent noticed it. but i do think that Alvar is dead indeed. maybe that was the incident they say in the orientation video for the swan? maybe the incident was that they contacted Alvar through the computer and then Alvar told him everything thinking that they could not say it to anyone else. and then the others at THF found out and kiled him. so could the killing of Alvar Hanso be "the incident"?"

so i would love to hear anyones thoughts on this theory!

5/13/2006 12:28:00 PM  
Blogger Dharma Leader said...

i also have another theory. as most know the two people in the pear orientation and the swan orientation are the same, as i believe some say cloning or twin. but i think that maybe it is the same person and they did this on purpose. you notice the appearance is different. the hair is different and there is no prosthetic arm and the clothes and even the name. maybe they did this on purpose. they may have done this because they want to make it seem like they are two different people so if they see someone from another hatch they dont know that its all the same person and might realize this could be a hoax. like normally they have diffeent people for different orientation videos, but this time they dont. they may see that there is the same person doing all the videos and then they may realize this is a hoax and isnt real. so they change his appearance and name so they dont figure it out. yes this may be all confusing i know.. but if you really think about it it seems interesting. so they think this is all different people but its not. so since its not they may realize this is a hoax and is not real and that this person is playing two sides of the fence or 6 sides in that case. so hes doing all of these and making each believe he is a person that is only in that departement and stuff but he is doing the whole shabang and throwing them off. well if anyone gets this please give your opinions i would love them. and also one more thing. could this DR. or guy in the videos be Alvar Hanso himself? also something to ponder, if Dharma hired him or whatever why would they have him have two different names and appearances?

5/13/2006 12:52:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Is anyone keeping a log of usfull and non usfull information? It is funny, I am and they are the same type of journal books from last weeks epsiode. Maybe I am part of this experiment as well, lol.


5/13/2006 01:22:00 PM  
Blogger DeDJeZTeR said...


I too have a log of information on the show and now the game in a soft cover marble notebook and after last weeks ep. I drew a pearl station symbol on it...

we are both in the experiment... in fact we are all part of the experiment...some of the people here are the ones walking around on the island care free... The ones still writing in these comments are the John Lockes of the group and we can't resist the button.

we are experiment #627

lol... and Namaste

5/13/2006 01:36:00 PM  
Blogger Marc said...


Your theories are better suited for "Lost" boards, as opposed to game-related boards. It will be much cleaner in the long run to keep the show theories separate until the game dictates they be considered. Also... long winded posts that don't use proper punctuation, spelling or grammar makes people's heads explode.

5/13/2006 01:48:00 PM  
Blogger dharmajen said...

I'm sorry if I continue repeating myself, but have we figured out where missing organs goes???

5/13/2006 02:23:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Dedjezter, You are so right. We are the Lockes of the game, continuosly persuing the answer, but it is the question that drives us. I know that is kind of matrix like, but if the shoe fits. I love this show and this game. Now if I could only get some work done at the same time.


5/13/2006 02:31:00 PM  
Blogger cprout said...

Anyone contacted persephone latley?
I just get the no new message, but right before that flashes sdsdsd or something like it? I am not saying this is new but i have not seen it before....
Anyone seen it before is it old or new?

5/13/2006 04:14:00 PM  
Blogger Saint said...

Just a few things I noticed...they may have been brought up already and if so I'm sorry. In the Mental Health Appeal section in the paragraph at the top left you can click it to bring up the same text box as if you clicked the tell us more button. And also in the WWPDP section in the Press Release, in the paragraph at the bottom the word "Miracle" is set up like a link, but when you click it, it doesnt do anything...any comments?

5/13/2006 06:38:00 PM  
Blogger cprout said...

Looks like thats where the miracle clue will come in.
most likley its not active yet...probably time sensitive, like they will activate it later kind of thing. But yea I dont think alot of people have noticed..good hunting.

5/13/2006 06:43:00 PM  
Blogger NYStingRay said...

Actually, that was mentioned a long time ago and is in a list of found clues that we are just waiting to figure out how to use, along with missing organs, the login on the bottom of the page and the log in for the Board of Directors page.

All will be revealed in due time, this is a game and they are playing with US.

Just like they actived the clock to reveal OBEY on the :15 & :42 minute mark of each hour.. that wasn't there a few days ago.

I strongly suggest you use the weekend to read the clues the administrators posted, from bottom up, I doubt any major happenings will occur until Monday.

Keep an eye on the Sprite :


site, because one of the six boxes there states it is "locked: available 5/15/06

it seems the 206-861-5017 is no longer in service.

there is talk on one of the other forums that people are receiving emails from Hugh McIntyre, and Persephone. I don't know if this is a hoax or not, something to look out for.

I personally stumbled upon a site:


when it comes up you see:

Previous list compromised. Previous list compromised.

Urgent message

Assistance needed

click on the Assitance needed and it goes to a page with:

"If you can help me, provide your info. I will be in contact soon. Namaste. " and a box for you to enter an email address.

complete it and you get a confirmation email from Peter Thompson

again I don't know if this is a hoax so don't get too excited, trust the administrators to check this out and verify and they will post if it is an actual clue.

I am finding so much speculation and grasping at straws in the blogs, lets all stay focused.

Karen found something of interest earlier which I would like to throw out there again, she said;

"On THF website under Active Projects, Mathematical Forcasting Initiative, it says Copenhagen, Denmark, Friday, 01/05/06" and she went on to say that neither May 1, 06 nor January 5, 06 were Fridays. Again this may be nothing but I would like to give props to her for pointing it out...now lets see if it goes anywhere, only time will tell.


5/13/2006 07:16:00 PM  
Blogger DeDJeZTeR said...

to all

I am on Mac and was talking a friend on PC through the clues so far and when he got to the MIRACLE word he right clicked on it
copy link
open in new page
it came up as
www.asfunction.miraclelink.com... this brought him to
A site about Cold fusion and blogging or something I have not gone to check it out yet but was wondering if anyone else got this too.

Namaste and good luck

5/13/2006 07:21:00 PM  
Blogger DeDJeZTeR said...

to all

I am on Mac and was talking a friend on PC through the clues so far and when he got to the MIRACLE word he right clicked on it
copy link
open in new page
it came up as
www.asfunction.miraclelink.com... this brought him to
A site about Cold fusion and blogging or something I have not gone to check it out yet but was wondering if anyone else got this too.

Namaste and good luck

5/13/2006 07:22:00 PM  
Blogger Carol said...

Gah, can't remember how I first got to http://www.paik-heavy.com/namaste.htm, I know it was from running some code through a converter... Anyway the original message was to sign up, which I did using an email account that is not my main one, just in case it wasn't legit. Got this reply:

Valued Subscriber,

Welcome to Paik-Heavy Industries. We are happy to have you as a member of our community. Your email address and interest preferences have been recorded in our database. In the future, you will receive periodic emails specific to your interests.

Privacy is important to us; therefore, we will not sell, rent, or give your name or address to anyone. At any point, you can select the link at the bottom of every email to unsubscribe, or to receive less or more information.

Thanks again for registering. If you have any questions or comments, feel free to contact us.


Peter Thompson

Paik-Heavy Industries
email: peter.h.thompson@gmail.com

Haven't tried that email address for Peter Thompson though

5/13/2006 07:56:00 PM  
Blogger Saint said...

Nystingray, if you go about it it from the main site, you can click a hidden link and you get this...
"Sorry it didn't work out, it was a group try. If you see an oval rash you must deal with it immediately. Or at least check the source.

There wasn't much we could do about the open sphere. She was on a phone spree and we had to get out of there.

104 116 116 112 58 47 47 119 119 119 46 112 97 105 107 45 104 101 97 118 121 46 99 111 109 47 110 97 109 97 115 116 101 46 104 116 109"

Notice the masive amounts of anagrams... a group try(Gary Troup), an oval rash (Alvar Hanso),
open sphere and phone spree (Persephone)....this might have been mentioned somewhere else.

5/13/2006 08:00:00 PM  
Blogger DeDJeZTeR said...

Sounds fake to me dude

5/13/2006 08:01:00 PM  
Blogger DeDJeZTeR said...

Saint where is the hidden link this is the only thing I have yet to see for myself

5/13/2006 08:10:00 PM  
Blogger jessandgabesmom said...

PaikHeavy industries is a fan site.

These are the only currently known LEGITIMATE sites. People are jumping on the bandwagon and registering sites all over the place, but just because there is mention of Hanso or people who work there does not mean it's in game. These are proven to be legitimate and all others (too many to list) are not...

These sites are official:
http://oceanicflight815.com http://theislandiswaiting.com (leads you to oceanicflight815.com)
http://thehansofoundation.org http://oceanic-airlines.com & http://oceanic-air.com http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/index.html
http://channel4.com/lost site, although this is british and not run by abc themselves, and they show a video clip that suggests the Black Smoke blew up the engine in the pilot - we know from Javi it did not.
http://garytroupbooks.com (info on the author and two of his books)

The rest are fan sites. So don't be misled by dishonest people who try to throw you off with fake clues. I'm sure we'll see more and more of these popping up. And whatever you do, don't give out your real email addy. I am sure there are sites that are using this to cultivate email addy's.

5/13/2006 08:28:00 PM  
Blogger NYStingRay said...

Well, as I said it could be a hoax and we should get to crazy over it until the Admin for this site post it.

The email I received was quite different, all it said was:

it was addressed from PHI" peter.h.thompson@gmail.com

( take note of PHI)

"Thank you for helping.

To confirm, please click this link:


If you do not wish to help, or this email has reached you
in error, please use this link and I will no longer contact you:


Then if I go to


this comes up:

Paik-Heavy Industries

Site Unavailable

All contract status information has moved. Please contact your supervisor for details.

The Paik-Heavy Industries contractor information site is experiencing technical problems. We do not know when this problem will be resolved.
For urgent matters, please contact Peter Thompson at 877-426-1614. Due to travel schedules, Mr. Thompson may not be able to return your call promptly.
We apologize for the inconvenience.

About Paik-Heavy Industries

you can click on the about Paik-Heavy Industries but it appears to take you to another blog belonging to Peter Thompson titled PHI-ERI

so it could be nothing which is another reason I don't recommend grasping at straws. None of the pages I accessed had hidden links or messages containing any anagrams.....

I still think the next official clue will be from Sprite site Monday.


5/13/2006 08:28:00 PM  
Blogger Ange said...

dedjezter-I tried the whole right click miracle thing...got this when I cut and pasted into MS Word: asfunction:miracleLink
NOT a web address, rather a function code for a link not yet activated...hope that helps.

5/13/2006 08:32:00 PM  
Blogger Saint said...

dedjezter, just go to http://www.paik-heavy.com
and click the hidden link above the "About Paik-Heavy Industries" link.

5/13/2006 08:32:00 PM  
Blogger icallwindow said...

Does anyone know what this is?


It's where you go when you click "about Paik-Heavy Industries" or whatnot on the paik-heavy.com. Doubtfully anything important, but all the binary is still pretty weird...

5/13/2006 08:35:00 PM  
Blogger Saint said...

just a quick farfetched theory...on the clue about the caltech records when you type in heir apparent...if you have the brightness ont your screen high enough you can see a hat and a pencil. Does'nt that hat look a little like the woman that Sun is talking to on the Sprite commercial that will be unlocked on the 15th? Maybe that girl is Pesephone. Just a theory.

5/13/2006 08:39:00 PM  
Blogger cprout said...

http://www.oceanicflight815.com/ theres a series of bars on the links at the bottom of the page...when clicked it says enter code. Anyone know what this code is?

5/13/2006 11:33:00 PM  
Blogger girlonthewire said...

have you guys seen this interview with Gary Troup?


5/14/2006 12:19:00 AM  
Blogger Marc said...

paik-heavy.com and the PHI-ERI sites are NOT in-game.

5/14/2006 12:43:00 AM  
Blogger cprout said...

What if persephone is the black smoke monster.
Maybe she is the deystroyer of light...?
Just a hunch...god were depserate for action around here.

5/14/2006 01:57:00 AM  
Blogger lostJunky said...

Guys, forget about the Sprite website, I reverse engineered the shokwave flash object, and nothing comes out of it.
It only shows a picture of a girl who is NOT sun from Lost (here name is Eve Mendes), a text about going out with a bang rather than a fizzle, and a video to promote Sprite (Click on the other boxes and you ll have the same exact marketing crap)
Peace !

5/14/2006 02:00:00 AM  
Blogger DeDJeZTeR said...

I know this is way off topic but is there someone out there that could transfer the Gary Troup interview vids to a older Mac friendly format... like Mpeg

it would be really cool


5/14/2006 03:42:00 AM  
Blogger Karl said...

Yeah, I didnt think that looked like sun, and besides, what has sun got to do with the lost experience at this point? Not a lot!

Oh and another minor niggle. Please could everyone stop ending their posts with "Namaste", its really annoying!

5/14/2006 04:16:00 AM  
Blogger NYStingRay said...

girlonthewire, the Gary Troup interviews are discussed in Clue # 19.

Karl, Namaste

5/14/2006 07:06:00 AM  
Blogger Karl said...

didnt see that coming! lol

5/14/2006 10:01:00 AM  
Blogger lostblger said...

I was just browsing around the old Hanso foundation website
http://emri.perception.net/ and on the Alavar Hanso page there is some kind of overlay on his image when you put your mouse on it.


then if you click on it you get a computer screen like in the Swan saying:
>: MOLE.

then a letter from Jacques Maillot appears dated from the 4th of October 2005 and so AFTER his letter from the 19/09 that we saw last week on THF.org
The interesting stuff is that in this letter (4/10) he is thanking the Hanso foundation for 'extremely generous contribution' to the defense found (Alvar Hanso was in the weapon business in WWII no?) while two weeks before he was threatening them regards a disease outbreak in Tanzania and then replaced by Peter Thompson (executive member of THF) within a week as Direct General of GWC.
Plus in this later letter JM is now DG of ANOTHER organisation also based in Geneva (the address in the letter header is different).

Does that show us the brainwash power of the Hanso foundation or that their ultimate goal is and has always been research for weaponry manufacturing?

What are the ties between the Hanso Fundation and these two Swiss bodies the Global Welfare Consortium and the Global Health Organisation. Isn't swiss supposed to be a watchdog and therefore be neutral? How come a Health Organisation has got a "Defense Fund" defense against what...

5/14/2006 12:18:00 PM  
Blogger mykull said...

lostblgr, that's a fan site, not part of the game. scroll down and read previous posts for more info.

5/14/2006 01:07:00 PM  
Blogger raWash said...

Anyone seen the icon that appears next the http://thehansofoundation.org/press/extra/uploads/paris/newspaper.gif page, look like morse code characters.

Deciphering this I get ETSEAET which could be an anagram of ESTATE, no idea whether this could be a password or anything yet

5/14/2006 01:18:00 PM  
Blogger nb said...

Has anyone tried to decode:

104 116 116 112 58 47 47 119 119 119 46 112 97 105 107 45 104 101 97 118 121 46 99 111 109 47 110 97 109 97 115 116 101 46 104 116 109

They were found on the Paik-Heavy site..

The site may be fake but has anyone decoded what this says...?

5/14/2006 01:39:00 PM  
Blogger DeDJeZTeR said...


Lighten up man its just a game


5/14/2006 02:05:00 PM  
Blogger DeDJeZTeR said...

that code
104 116 116 112 58 47 47 119 119 119 46 112 97 105 107 45 104 101 97 118 121 46 99 111 109 47 110 97 109 97 115 116 101 46 104 116 109
translates to


5/14/2006 02:33:00 PM  
Blogger Christopher said...

I'm not sure why some sites are designated as "in game" and some are being disregarded.

The people behind the original viral marketing game for A.I. Artificial Inteligence (The Beast http://www.cloudmakers.org/) used many styles of web layout and registered sites to various real and fictional characters. I think any site could conceivable be "in game."

I believe is is the same group of people working on this game. The puppetmasters of The Beast were a special group working within Microsoft. Hackers of the sublymonal site have discovered links to Microsoft games. http://sublymonal.com/xml/teaser.xml

One of the puppetmasters was a prolific author named Sean Stewart. I suspect he is the actual author of Bad Twin.

5/14/2006 03:09:00 PM  
Blogger NYStingRay said...

I have to disagree with Chrisopher, there are a lot of websites out there, that have been put there by computer geeks to entertain themselves and have their own fun. Don't get distracted looking for clues by going on wild goose chases.

The following was posted on another website/blog compiling clues. Stick with the official sites otherwise you will just be wasting your time. If you want to check out those other sites, that is fine and in some cases entertaining, but doing be fooled into believing it has anything to do with the game.

These sites are official:
http://oceanicflight815.com (links to the Oceanic Forums, here is a walk through)
http://theislandiswaiting.com (leads you to oceanicflight815.com)
http://thehansofoundation.org (First site in the Summer Game, here is a walkthrough)
http://oceanic-airlines.com & http://oceanic-air.com (Here is a walk through of the site)
http://channel4.com/lost site, although this is british and not run by abc themselves, and they show a video clip that suggests the Black Smoke blew up the engine in the pilot - we know from Javi it did not.
http://garytroupbooks.com (info on the author and two of his books)

These are some of the common fan sites mentioned (i.e. NOT official):
dharmaindustries.com (now trying to rob you of money)
oceanicworldair.com (spyware warning)
PB-Sales/Merrick Biotech/Clonewatch - entertaining and in-depth, but yes, a fan site.
emri.perception.net - a bit of fun if you have the time
anything with 'kraftkost' in the url
www.widmore.com (it appears to be registered to ABC, but i'll trust DocArzt on this one)
i'm sure there are many more i'm forgetting and that are cropping up as we speak.

Also, with all these new "industry" sites cropping up, I would assume them all to be fake until we are directly pointed there by the game. As soon as a fan sees something mentioned, they run out and grab the domain name.


"Now we have fake AIM people under the names hanso815 and NamasteCandle pretending to be 'Dharma-bots' or something ridiculous. Candle has already come out and admitted he is a fake, hanso815 will no doubt be exposed soon, although most of his followers have already abandoned him.

...the list goes on, but the important thing to remember is that while these sites can be fun, the only way you will figure out what is going on in the show - IS BY WATCHING THE SHOW!
Oh, and I don't care that the Hanso site has finally thrown up a clue by linking Mr Friendly's Others to Hanso/Dharma, it doesn't mean we will see cryogenically frozen zombie alien nanobots in the show

So, Hanso is back, and we have aready learned from the associated phone messages that Hanso is missing and Sun's Dad works for Hanso, and a bunch of other fairly obscure clues that will no doubt be misinterpretted, and generate numerous crazy theories. Go for your life, just don't be surprised when the majority are not that enthusiastic. Remember the clues from the original site? No? Exactly. Everyone was running around saying 'The Island is Zanzibar!!', not realising how ridiculous that was. It was there to show Hanso's global interests and sinister dealings, not directly related to the show.
Bottom line - if you want to solve the mystery of the show - watch the show, the rest is just fluff, 99% of which will never appear anywhere except on the internet, and the remaining 1% will be misunderstood." [Tom_LostMonkey]

5/14/2006 03:26:00 PM  
Blogger Marc said...

Some of the sites have been confirmed OOG by "Speaker" at insidetheexperience.com, which is the ABC guidesite to the game.

Also.. paik-heavy is definitely OOG.. they are collecting emails so I would be wary.

5/14/2006 03:36:00 PM  
Blogger cprout said...

I actually think the speaker is a device to help debunk bad websites. If I understand it right he started after the experiance, by a few days at least?
Makes since to have some offical way to release info on which clues are valid and not. That way they
dont get harrassed about false clues or anything bad someone might put on the net trying claim to be part of the experiance.

5/14/2006 05:07:00 PM  
Blogger Karl said...

raWash, can you be more specific about where that morse code came from? I cant see anything next to that newspaper article.

5/14/2006 05:13:00 PM  
Blogger lostblger said...

thanks mykull...
thought it was a cached version of the former THF.org site. I though this paper was there before. Guess I got carried away with the date...and Jacques Maillot

enjoy the game...

5/14/2006 05:36:00 PM  
Blogger Saint said...

ok...quick question....does anyone else's copy of Bad Twin skip around and leave out about 30 pages?

5/14/2006 05:57:00 PM  
Blogger raWash said...

from the icon that appears next to the url.

ps I'm using Firefox

5/14/2006 06:43:00 PM  
Blogger Grue said...

rawash...its a favicon, or a smaller thumbnail version of what appears on the page. This comes in handy when you have a lot of tabs of pictures open,, so you can tell which tab is of what picture.

5/14/2006 07:09:00 PM  
Blogger beanpolekt said...

I have heard something about a sprite commercial tomarrow, but i dont know where people are getting it from. can anyone explain?

5/14/2006 07:41:00 PM  
Blogger DeDJeZTeR said...


It is from this web site
but it is most liklynot even part of the game
so dont go crazy trying to figure it out

5/14/2006 08:01:00 PM  
Blogger Ange said...

Hi Everyone,
Just finished Bad Twin today...I was doing a search looking for more of the missing Gary Troup interviews and stumbled across the book page at Borders:
http://www.bordersstores.com/search/title_detail.jsp?id=55773172&srchTerms=bad+twin&mediaType=1&srchType=Keyword. Under author it lists Gary Troup and someone named Hilary Aaron. No other bookseller site has Hilary Aaron as the author. I googled her and she has written a couple of other children's books for Hyperion...she must be the real Gary Troup. I just thought that was an interresting tidbit.

5/14/2006 08:08:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

sucks.... i didn't really want to know that.. meh... i still feel the magic tho.... i got my copy today and I'll prolly be finishin' it up in a few days... hopefully there'll be another clue somewhere in the book.

5/14/2006 08:20:00 PM  
Blogger DeDJeZTeR said...

I knew the sprite site wouldn't give us crap...

that sucked

5/14/2006 11:17:00 PM  
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5/15/2006 12:35:00 AM  
Blogger Karl said...

Yup, old news.

5/15/2006 12:41:00 AM  
Blogger DeDJeZTeR said...

hey does the G. troup site tell any one else that it is always updating or is it just me and My crappy mac with explorer???

5/15/2006 01:11:00 AM  
Blogger phil said...

Hey this topic has been briefly discussed but as of lately has become more clear on the hanso foundation website. What is the deal with the black and white picture of a man that appears briefly before and after you enter the screen to leave Joop a message. The best view can be seen when at the screen which allows you to send a message to joop and then clicking on the link above --> Joop's corner. Would appreciate any takes on who this could be and why he appears here. Seems to be a bald elder man, potentially african american..

5/15/2006 05:23:00 AM  
Blogger Jazzy Jeff... said...

Phil - Print screen, it will print a pic of a black and white image same as the guy in the MHA pic.
This has been posted already ;-)

5/15/2006 12:06:00 PM  
Blogger Dharma Leader said...

someone ealrier said something about the whole contacting mittlewerk through e-mail and seeing if he responds, i e-mailed him last friday or saturday and i have gotten nothing. so i think it is a haox. i am not sure about thompson, but mittlewek i am sure is a hoax.

5/15/2006 02:34:00 PM  
Blogger Dharma Leader said...

hey has anyone figured out whats with the text box below the words joops corner? i havent been able to figure it out.

5/15/2006 02:51:00 PM  
Blogger DeDJeZTeR said...

D. leadrer ... no it has not been figured out yet

here is a link to the pic you reffered to
it isn't really anything

5/15/2006 03:06:00 PM  
Blogger andrij harasewych said...

Persephone may be a code name, but in mythology she is the wife of hades.

is hanzo supposed to be hades?

That could mean the woman who calls herself persephone could be hanso's wife?
Maybe thats why she cant give her real identity.

Also - cerebrus - the possible "security system" mentioned on the map seen in lockdown - is the guard-dog of hell, and the personal guard of hades and persephone.

5/15/2006 11:03:00 PM  
Blogger Moebius said...

I didn't see this mentioned anywhere else... and I've read just about every post...

In BAD TWIN, on the publisher's page, at the bottom, is the standard list of numbers.

But on every book I've looked in today, the numbers are in order, and are usually 1-10, or in one case it was 5-10.

BAD TWIN's publisher's page has this:

1 3 5 7 9 8 6 4 2

odd in that it's not in order.
But looking at it again, and the last 2 numbers seeming a little familiar I did some math... forgive me if I'm barking up a tree...

and the last 2 digits are 42

Could this just be a confirmation that we're looking at a book connected to the show? Am I stretching?

Thanks for letting me post... Hopefully this might help, if not, well at least I tried...

5/16/2006 03:02:00 AM  
Blogger beth b said...

moebius, that's the standard print on all first print books. when it moves to the second print, they'll take off the 1.

5/16/2006 11:04:00 AM  
Blogger Jazzy Jeff... said...

Hi Guys - just posted to the adminstartors as a *possible* new clue:
Check the source code of the THF website - has another address in it www.djdan.am - looks a bit dodge to me, but it is showing under the THF source code as I said!
Has some interesting pics of a shark with a new tattoo.....

5/16/2006 03:15:00 PM  
Blogger Moebius said...

Beth, I understand... but why would the numbers be out of order? The order is what I'm focused on... But maybe the future will point something out to us...

5/16/2006 09:56:00 PM  

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