Clue #30 - Gary Troup Info (4) Displeasure with BAD TWIN
A new letter was found in the right hand "news" column on thehansofoundation.org website. Click HERE to see a letter from Hugh McIntyre to Hyperion Books. HERE is the parent directory in which the letter was contained. The letter is found in the "Paris" folder but there is also an empty (for now) folder for "London".
*Thanks to Deanna, Matt, Courtney, Robert, & Choff for noticing first.
Boy, they sure are trying to think of ways to get us to buy that book! If you don't want to pony up the cash or take the time to read. See the post above this one for a thorough summary of pertinant info or check out Clue #25 and Clue #19 . They should tell you all you need to know.
Both the Persephone & Bad Twin plotlines are revealing corruption and instability in the Hanso Foundation. Clear causes and effects have yet to be clearly articulated. We are left to continue with our best guessing...
*Thanks to Deanna, Matt, Courtney, Robert, & Choff for noticing first.
Boy, they sure are trying to think of ways to get us to buy that book! If you don't want to pony up the cash or take the time to read. See the post above this one for a thorough summary of pertinant info or check out Clue #25 and Clue #19 . They should tell you all you need to know.
Both the Persephone & Bad Twin plotlines are revealing corruption and instability in the Hanso Foundation. Clear causes and effects have yet to be clearly articulated. We are left to continue with our best guessing...
68 Comments:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persephone
Interesting article on the name Persephone from Greek mythology - could there be a theme here? Perhaps Persephone is the daughter of Alvar Hanso??
anyone notice that when you leave the hanso site and come back here (or another site) in the same browser that the hanso music is still playing? I'm guessing its just web techy stuff, but it's kinda creepy how it doesn't stop. I can't find the letter posted on the hanso site, either.
I can't help noticing the formating of the letter. Why have words breaking at the end of a line? Perhaps there is a hidden message in all of these releases based on their formating?
Also, there seems to be a couple typos. Obviuosly we found this before it was "supposed" to be found. I'm curious to see if they change it at all, and signature, etc.
So you saw this on the actual hanso site? I have cleared my cache and still can't see it. I have noticed that I can't see clues until about a day after you all post them here... I don't know why...
Hey House! Yes, it's in the "News" on the right hand side above the orange pollution picture.
On garytroupooks.com page there is now a header on the main page that says:
A NOTE FROM THE PUBLISHER:
We have received many calls and e-mails asking about the recent advertising campaign done by the Hanso Foundation about our recent publication of BAD TWIN. While we can't respond to you individually on this matter, please know that this issue is of great concern to us, and we are investigating what actions we should or shouldn't take in relation to this complaint. Meanwhile, thank you for your attention and consideration.
Ya know, I think Alvar Hanso looks like Phillip Seymore Hoffman...
and he's in MI:III
Comments?
has anyone notice a link between the widmoore group and some of the losties? On the board of directors you will se Mittlewerk, Huge McIntyre and Lockes dad, Anthony B. Cooper? Seems like a legit site
nb: Here's the site for the new letter.
http://thehansofoundation.org/press/
extra/uploads/paris/legalmiller_final.pdf
*deannacat
You know, now that I look at his picture, he looks like a mannequin for a clothes store. Something about his pose and "plastic smile"...
Do these projects really exsist? I hope not, $23 million USD contract?
http://widmoregroup.com/news.htm
I have googled this and find nothing...is it related to the game or have they devised this to drive our interest until next season?
No kidding, it kinda does. =o) Still...it could be Hoffman. That almost makes sense because Abrams and he just did MI:III.
I'm probably way behind the curve on this but, checking out the widmoregroup.com, I went to "Current Projects," then clicked on "Project Sparta." Up came a message asking me for my user name and password. That's as far as I got.
Is this old news?
Oh, I don't know about that, nb. On mine, the ad kust opens up in Mozilla, but when I look at the letter my Adobe Reader pops it right open. Must have a setting somewhere to look at pdf in Word and it can't see it.
Yeah, louis, it kinda is. The current thinking is that that site is fake. On the blog homepage on the right hand side there is a REFERENCES section that lists a ton of sites, if you want to have a go at that.
Louis,
Did you notice that Lockes dad is on the board? As well as Hugh McIntyre and Thomas Mittelwerk? They are pulling out all the stops on this 'experience'
OK, thanks. The other thing is, if you click on "Battersea Power Station," you go to a London website that seems legit. No references to Hanso, etc.
Karl,
Very true, I was skeptical of that picture as well, we already know where the other 2 come from, I am seeing if the other t shots on that site are stock photo's you can purchase online, not having much luck though...
Namaste
Battersea Power Station is a real place.
I think it is a dead end, but why would that link be on a site with references to lost? Also, does anyone know what construction company Michael worked for? Could it be Widmore Construction?
If Alvar was a real person and was so into his company, wouldn't he be very proud of his works. Maybe his disfigured in someway?
notice on the MFI Page, description at top/left has words blanked out?
To Dharma leader:
I was theorizing that Persephone may be the daughter of Alvar Hanso based on what I read on Wikipedia under the Persephone entry. Turns out she the Greek Goddess of the underworld and daughter to some other important figure. . .sorry I can't remember off hand. But if skim over it, you get the feeling that there may be a reason she calls herself Persephone.
If you go to Joops corner, on the top left hand side under the green writing that says "joops corner" there is a text box you can type in. Wonder what this might be for???
hey, beanpole is talking about a different, new text box under the words, "Joop's Corner."
I will delete this if mistaken...
beanpolekt,
The Oceanic Airlines website has been out there for awhile. Here's a link to everything that is hidden on the site...
http://www.lostlinks.net/lost&found.htm
The site is registerd to Disney I believe.
The swan video is also (1980) not (1985)
I have said this before.. it may have been edited after it was made... therefor it retains the original copyright date of 1980 but may have been altered after the INCEDENT.
but yes the name is different not the man... same guy...cloning is a litlle far fetched though.
Marc, Dharmajen is right: there is a text box directly under "Joop's Corner." This is different than the text box where you can send Joop a message.
The flickering text to the left of Joop webcam has been going on for a week or so now. I'm wondering if anything shows up if you fiddle w/the background colors. However, I cannot for the life of me find out how you do this. I know others have said it's under the HF trademark in lower left corner, but I can't locate anything. Perhaps it doesn't work on Mac Safari?
Anyone else want to give it a try?
no, old news. it's the guy from the mental health page.
oh, sorry. are you talking about the webcam pic of joop or the static pic of him on the main page at lower right? or the one of him at upper right?
has anyone noticed in the Index of /hanso/actionscript
there is a file (IMAGES) that inside you will find a picture of
CHARLIE
if this is old news I am sorry.
this is the link
http://www.fastboot.com/hanso/Image/charlie.jpg
Namaste
will do and done
Dude. I don't know if this is mentioned... Hell, I don't care all I know is that I got a light bulb moment when I saw the old pic. from the Swan Orientation film.
The Swan Orientation film was filmed in the building that Alvar Hanso is pictured in.
The windows are the same...and it's also similar to the building in the background of Mittelwerk's pic.
mamakau just put the address i listed in your address bar and go... it will bring you right to the picture.
Sweetkeri1
That date is read as May 12, 2006 not Dec. 05, 2006
just a heads up
I know this is a long shot but if any one out there has either the cd's or the actual records of Led Zeppelin albums could they see if the backside of any of them match the picture of charlie found here
http://www.fastboot.com/hanso/Image/charlie.jpg
On behalf of the Degroots, Alvar Hanso, and all of us here at the Dharma initiative...
Namaste and good luck
Your tour of duty will last for 7 months until November at that point you may continue viewing your T.v. for further instructions...
TEE HEE TEE HEE HEE HEE HEEEEE...HEH
dedjezter:
i'm wondering if you've found anything about the pic of charlie on the hanzo site.
that sounds interesting...
That is the picture I was refering to Richard... at this point I'll look into anything for a possible clue...lol
her is an address with a better shot of the album cover he has... if anyone has the episode 11 The Hunting Party and can watch it. It is the Record that hurly hands to Charlie as Charlie Puts down the Geronimo Jackson Record...
What record is it?
WHo is it?
What songs are on it?
What song does he play off of it?
These are thing's I need to know.
Namaste
sorry link would be nice...huh?
http://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimagepopup&pid=56755&fullsize=1
these are also in the THF.org files
http://www.fastboot.com/hanso/mittelwerk/caltech.jpg
http://www.fastboot.com/hanso/mittelwerk/hallway.jpg
http://www.fastboot.com/hanso/mittelwerk/hidden_image.jpg
http://www.fastboot.com/hanso/mittelwerk/shadow.png
nothing really there except the aformentioned 2630 under the (V-Neck shirt collar line) at the bottom of hidden_image
Not sure if its been mentioned yet but it might be interesting to note that there are several grammar mistakes in the newest THF letter.
I think we all have to be patient with this. I know I want the answers as much as anyone else. Diligence and patience will help us solve this thing. Many of us, myself included have been reaching. I am not imploring anyone to stop, it is more fun than work. I wonder what kindof impact this is having on productivity?
Namaste
Oh, someone said that in the US sprite is a sponsor, and in another country it is Pepsi, I think Sprite is a brand from Pepsi.
Namaste
Yep, you are correct. My bad.
Not suprisingly, the address the letter is addressed to is a Walt Disney Co. address, not actually Hyperion Books.
Is anyone keeping a log of usfull and non usfull information? It is funny, I am and they are the same type of journal books from last weeks epsiode. Maybe I am part of this experiment as well, lol.
Namaste
thrasher76
I too have a log of information on the show and now the game in a soft cover marble notebook and after last weeks ep. I drew a pearl station symbol on it...
we are both in the experiment... in fact we are all part of the experiment...some of the people here are the ones walking around on the island care free... The ones still writing in these comments are the John Lockes of the group and we can't resist the button.
we are experiment #627
lol... and Namaste
I'm sorry if I continue repeating myself, but have we figured out where missing organs goes???
Dedjezter, You are so right. We are the Lockes of the game, continuosly persuing the answer, but it is the question that drives us. I know that is kind of matrix like, but if the shoe fits. I love this show and this game. Now if I could only get some work done at the same time.
Namaste
to all
I am on Mac and was talking a friend on PC through the clues so far and when he got to the MIRACLE word he right clicked on it
copy link
open in new page
it came up as
www.asfunction.miraclelink.com... this brought him to
www.asfusion.com
A site about Cold fusion and blogging or something I have not gone to check it out yet but was wondering if anyone else got this too.
Namaste and good luck
Dedjezter
to all
I am on Mac and was talking a friend on PC through the clues so far and when he got to the MIRACLE word he right clicked on it
copy link
open in new page
it came up as
www.asfunction.miraclelink.com... this brought him to
www.asfusion.com
A site about Cold fusion and blogging or something I have not gone to check it out yet but was wondering if anyone else got this too.
Namaste and good luck
Dedjezter
Gah, can't remember how I first got to http://www.paik-heavy.com/namaste.htm, I know it was from running some code through a converter... Anyway the original message was to sign up, which I did using an email account that is not my main one, just in case it wasn't legit. Got this reply:
Valued Subscriber,
Welcome to Paik-Heavy Industries. We are happy to have you as a member of our community. Your email address and interest preferences have been recorded in our database. In the future, you will receive periodic emails specific to your interests.
Privacy is important to us; therefore, we will not sell, rent, or give your name or address to anyone. At any point, you can select the link at the bottom of every email to unsubscribe, or to receive less or more information.
Thanks again for registering. If you have any questions or comments, feel free to contact us.
Sincerely,
Peter Thompson
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email: peter.h.thompson@gmail.com
Haven't tried that email address for Peter Thompson though
Sounds fake to me dude
Saint where is the hidden link this is the only thing I have yet to see for myself
dedjezter-I tried the whole right click miracle thing...got this when I cut and pasted into MS Word: asfunction:miracleLink
NOT a web address, rather a function code for a link not yet activated...hope that helps.
A
I know this is way off topic but is there someone out there that could transfer the Gary Troup interview vids to a older Mac friendly format... like Mpeg
it would be really cool
Namaste
lostblgr, that's a fan site, not part of the game. scroll down and read previous posts for more info.
Karl
Lighten up man its just a game
NAMASTE
nb
that code
104 116 116 112 58 47 47 119 119 119 46 112 97 105 107 45 104 101 97 118 121 46 99 111 109 47 110 97 109 97 115 116 101 46 104 116 109
translates to
http://www.paik-heavy.com/namaste.htm
I'm not sure why some sites are designated as "in game" and some are being disregarded.
The people behind the original viral marketing game for A.I. Artificial Inteligence (The Beast http://www.cloudmakers.org/) used many styles of web layout and registered sites to various real and fictional characters. I think any site could conceivable be "in game."
I believe is is the same group of people working on this game. The puppetmasters of The Beast were a special group working within Microsoft. Hackers of the sublymonal site have discovered links to Microsoft games. http://sublymonal.com/xml/teaser.xml
One of the puppetmasters was a prolific author named Sean Stewart. I suspect he is the actual author of Bad Twin.
beanpolekt
It is from this web site
http://www.douhavetheproof.com/home.do
but it is most liklynot even part of the game
so dont go crazy trying to figure it out
Hi Everyone,
Just finished Bad Twin today...I was doing a search looking for more of the missing Gary Troup interviews and stumbled across the book page at Borders:
http://www.bordersstores.com/search/title_detail.jsp?id=55773172&srchTerms=bad+twin&mediaType=1&srchType=Keyword. Under author it lists Gary Troup and someone named Hilary Aaron. No other bookseller site has Hilary Aaron as the author. I googled her and she has written a couple of other children's books for Hyperion...she must be the real Gary Troup. I just thought that was an interresting tidbit.
I knew the sprite site wouldn't give us crap...
that sucked
hey does the G. troup site tell any one else that it is always updating or is it just me and My crappy mac with explorer???
D. leadrer ... no it has not been figured out yet
Phil
here is a link to the pic you reffered to
http://www.fastboot.com/hanso/Image/image6.jpg
it isn't really anything
Persephone may be a code name, but in mythology she is the wife of hades.
is hanzo supposed to be hades?
That could mean the woman who calls herself persephone could be hanso's wife?
Maybe thats why she cant give her real identity.
Also - cerebrus - the possible "security system" mentioned on the map seen in lockdown - is the guard-dog of hell, and the personal guard of hades and persephone.
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