Clue #37 - Persephone (10) Peter Thompson Busted!
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On to the clue...
Check out Peter Thompson's page in the Executive Bio Section...There are transparent letters flashing on his picture (see pic below). Look carefully (and quickly), the letters spell "survivor guilt"
There is an invisible field in which text can be entered under Peter Thompson's picture. Click on it and type "survivor guilt" and hit the enter key. Another Persephone hack! She takes you to a desk with papers on it. From there you learn about 3 events from Peter Thompson's past. Turns up more corruption. Hmmm...
See if you can find Persephone's message, "Don't believe his lies." Also look for DR. MARVIN CANDLE. For a peak at the screens, see the SCREEN CAPS page.
*Credit to Jonah, DH, Cory, Chris, Kris, Kendra, Matthew, Jesse, Ivan, Maria, Alex, James, Elaine, John, Courtney, Jake, I'm sorry...you get the idea (For those of you that had this an hour before we posted it...forgive us...and thank you for your patience...we're doing our best to keep the rest of our lives intact :) and still stay ahead of the game! )
63 Comments:
anyone able to see what the flashes are after you read each page?
Also, doesn't that coat look kind of like the one Waxman/Wickman was wearing in the newest orientation vid?
In the show, there have been two or three references to Tallahasee...one being that Kate had been there. The Globoco Oil case file mentioned that the chemical spill was off the Florida panhandle - that's where Tallahassee is. Is that a stretch or what?
Ugh. I type in survivorguilt, hit return/enter and nothing happens. What the heck?
survivor guilt with a space
Bullyragging? The handwritten message abou South Georgia uses this very unusual word, when it could use something plainer like bully, harass, badger, intimidate...bullyrag, or ballyrag (an alternative) seems to be a word from the 19c. US, maybe connected to the South, but you certainly don't see it often...clue?
Here's a word blog about "ballyrag":
http://thenightwriterblog.powerblogs.com/posts/1141617164.shtml
Thanks. I did not know you have to log in at the newsletter page every time. That did it.
I read this blog everyday, usually several times. How did I miss the part where there are pictures behind Alvar's pic and Liddy Wales question mark? And how do you do it? They won't drag. =o/
Here's another question. Is there a way ro rewind the flash movies? Everything I try reloads the site and I'd like to get some screen caps without having to go back in "give it one more try" everytime.
Whoever the transparent figure is, he has no left arm. Candle?
Could that have to do with "saving the wrong man?"
I would like to see screencaps of the subliminal messages that pop up when the desk goes away and you're looking at a picture.
Did that make sense?
I'm going to go out on a limb and admit my ignorance. I've wasted my entire day at work on this game (it's awesome!) since I heard about it this morning, and I've gotten an idea, but I'VE NEVER SEEN THE SHOW. NOT ONCE. Can someone clue me in about what the heck this Hanso bunch have to do with why an airliner crashed on an island? And what the heck's going on on that island?
great work guys and gals.
i'm right with you!
on the tobacco screen...
looking at diceplaya's video:
http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/s/n/snp134/Lost/thompfield.mov
it seems, before the creepy guys shows up and during the 'don't believe his lies' part, there's a DOCUMENT that flashes briefly as well as something that looks like an eyeball, or a retina, or an intricate seal of some kind.
any ideas on what it could be or how to get a clearer look?
discuss
I also would like to be able to see what the documents say that are on the desk. There is one that appears to say HELP at the end. I have stated this before and no one has talked about it, so I am bringing it up again.
Namaste
wait, maybe what looks like a document on the tobacco page is a box of cigarettes?
ALSO:
going through the tobacco video frame by frame, there seems to be some scratches on it that are letters.
still working on it, but it looks like there's an "N" and an "X"
does anyone see these or find more?
Thrasher:
can't find the 'help' you speak of
Richard,
I think my mind is playing tricks on me. But the Doc on the desk on the left, the first blocked out section, the end of the first sentence appears like it could say help. Or not, I am not able to cleary zoom in on it. Wish I had some high tech stuff like they do in CSI.
Namaste!
Here are the images that flash during the Peter Thompson videos:
Cancer? - http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/8619/image25hx.jpg
Dharma Logo - http://img272.imageshack.us/img272/1378/image39bm.jpg
Eye? - http://img272.imageshack.us/img272/1553/image55gx.jpg
"Mental Health Appeal" Guy - http://img272.imageshack.us/img272/8560/image61no.jpg
Cancer2? - http://img272.imageshack.us/img272/2250/image74uf.jpg
starfood2003:
The words that flash on the screen are:
Don't
Believe
His
Lies
Jeez...I am feeling a little overwhealmed by the sheer volume of clues that have come in over the last couple of days. I go to work and I miss all of this. Just wanted to post a THANK-YOU to all for the amazing technology work...I wouldn't even have a clue as to how to freeze frames, pull images, slow down, etc... Keep up the good work!
So, if I'm following so far, Persephone has hacked the Foundation and led us to clues proving that the PR Guy doesn't always tell the truth and the Lawyer has represented big companies accused of doing Very Bad Things. And one of them may have cheated on his spouse. Add that all together and we now know that The Hanso Foundation is ... a corporation!
Maybe after some more serious skullduggery and fancy Flash graphics, it will be revealed that THF has some highly trained accountants who are working over the company books to show ... favorable financial performance. Evil.
in Mental Health Appeal, when the mouse is in the letters about MEA, may be says: not merely be rightest lights, but test light the way for shine for (Don't
Believe His Lies) maybe or may be not a clue......
ok - white rabbit - The bugs are everywere?
grin-e-mailed walt@quantym...comes up with this link: http://www.dharma.quantym.net/afolder/finishit.php
which is morse code which translates to this: TWAS BRILLIG AND THE SLITHY DID GYRE AND GIMBLE IN THE WABE
Which is from The Jaberwocky. The second word is Brillig which according to Wikipedia means 4 o'click in the afternoon.
If you go to Quantym.net you get "The Bugs are everywhere"
If anyone is still looking into the whole white rabbit/quantym.net thing...the answer to the morse code page is the number 4...it takes you to a log in where they want a user name, password, and your e-mail address...I'm all set with that, but curious to see if anyone else wants to sign up.
zipir, you're so right, thanks for pointing that out, I was almost excited
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this might sound wierd, but when I typed 'dict rescind' (not a native speaker) in the address bar while going through the Peter Thompson files over at letyourcompassguideyou.com, this popped up - http://tobaccodocuments.org/ctr/HT0033004-3004.html
sorry for the double post, but is my computer going crazy or does that 'incident' have a meaning?
any more on the handwritten letters in the tobacco video?
anyone?
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The ? hatch was the pearl... hence the pearl orientation video... this only means that the person (Desmond?) who wrote the map on the blastdoor had the wrong name at that hatch... if the cv iv is even designating a hatch... those numbers and letters CV I, CV II, CV III...ect. might be something different all together... since the ones at the swan hatch are closed off since the incident... we have no way of knowing what they are as of yet.
C-ya and Namaste
Gylius
It's not the wwpdp guy , but the guy from the orientation videos...
And the miracle thing has never done anything... not yet anyway... maybe it will... maybe it won't... try reading the blog before you post... If it isn't from the last clue it has been thourhly discussed under its own section... take some time to read the clues if you are going to play the game...
this goes to everyone... AGAIN
C-ya and Namaste
Don't know if anyone's noticed, but when I go to Joop's Corner, there's a large portion of the text that....twitching. It's blinking, almost like morse, but too fast for me to record it.
Is anyone else seeing this?
its ok moon unit
dont feel too bad
there are a LOT of comments
one thing i've found helpful is to go to one of the comments page, and if you're looking for something in particular, on a PC press ctrl+F (apple+F on a Mac) to open a finder and you can search for every occurrance of "miracle" or "Valenzetti" or whatever on the page you're viewing.
that helps me find discussions of specifics.
hope that helps....
until then,
Namaste
Moon unit
Yes I did mean read every single comment... I am by no means a fast reader but I read everything and bring myself up to date (both here and at the board before I start to comment...
It was first mentioned in the comments of clue #21... took all of 40 seconds to find it so it shouldn't be that hard for others to find these things as well... I did not mean to offend you... if I did I am sorry... it just seems that alot of people are joining into the game and commenting on things right off the bat... with out reserching what has been said already. I Dont mind once or twice or even ten times, but ten times in every comments section is getting out of hand
Once again I am sorry and Namaste
And to richard thanksfor pointing that out I thought that those find functions were common knowledge... I guess I was wrong.
OI, I noticed somethin else with that text...
When you're at that page, clikc on "Send Joop a message". When it wipes to the message pages, watch the space right behind the text. It looks to be a close-cropped image of the African-American doctor from the Current Projects page. What's he doing there?
At least I am able to admit when I am wrong, instead of just being arrogant about it...
They say ignorance is bliss and some here are very blissful.
I appologize when I feel it might be relevant and not just for the hell of it.
This is just another way for all of us to improve our relationship with those around the globe... and there are enough people here and across the world who do nothing but make Americans seem like egotistical bastards who care about nothing but themselves and I do not feel that this is how we need to be represented.
C-ya and NAMASTE
Dear JackBauer,
I never said I was right about those things. It was just my opinion and an attempt to further the conversation... so who is being arrogant here, you or I. Also what I meant was that the blastdoor shows the text "The Pearl?" I THINK that it was stating that the pearl IS the "?" or that the writer of the map thinks it is or doesn't know where the pearl is. I never said that this is right and you are wrong.
If thats the way you took it, then who am I to disagree with you... Practice what you preech... I just said what everyone else had been saying in order to reitterate the point... We don't know... hence the (Desmond?) I was being just as skeptical as the next guy on that point.
Also I have Never Flamed anyone as you so delicatly put it... I just think that there is a lack of information when it comes to the posts people are throwing up. True it is not hard to skip to the next post, but it is diffucult for everyone when the next post and the next post and the next post are all the same information that has been repeatedly covered. If people would just take some time it wouldn't get so frustrating for everyone else trying to get the valuable information they are looking for... in example the need to sign into the newsletter repeatedly. I have no quarells with you or anybody else, but the new comers are finding it hard to get the info they need since it is all acattered about at random... My attempts are not to judge but to help keep things in a controlled layout so that it will be helpful when warented.
I too would consider myself BLISSFUL at times... yes. Because even I have repeated myself in different sections, to try and get to the bottom of things or bring up a debate about a specific clue that has come to the forefront of the conversation.
The only Flaming being done was what you just wrote. I mentioned that the CV's in the diagram were not part of the hatches as a whole and that Karen Degroot is on the boat at the end of season 1 (see the woman who throws the bomb) she looks and wears the same seashell necklace as Karen Degroot is wearing in the orientation film. But I try to say these things in a way that isn't going to spoil the show for those who have only seen the first couple of season 2 episodes in other countries.
I am not judgeing people for there opinion but trying to shed some light on what they have said. If you think that is wrong, that is your problem and if you really don't like it that much just skip it and move onto the next post.
All this confusion and now even this post are just making it longer and harder for the new comers to get the info they need. So again I am just trying to help and if you feel personally attacked that is your OPINION just as I have mine and Moonunit has hers (Zapppa?). The point is to work together not work against.
C-ya and Namaste
I don't know if anyone has mentioned it, I did a real quick Find on the site and it returned nothing, so here goes.
Through the Paik-Heavy site, if you click on the slow air demo link, you can get to a website by Peter Thompson at http://www.squidoo.com/phi-eri/, the first post there has four links on it: 1998, 1994, 2001, and Clair Nims. Each link takes you to what appears to be the same page, where the numbers 76,73,69,83 are written in a vertical column spanning about twelve pages. The very last set has a link on the 3 in 83, which just returns you to the phi-eri site. At first glance this is useless, but I looked at the .php file names in the address bar, and each is different, and all are clearly in hexidecimal. If you convert those names into ASCII text, they each say a single word. Untrue, False, Helpless, and Hopeless. I can't remember if they are in that precise order though, and I don't have my notes in front of me. Also, in light of the "Survivor Guilt" password and what you learn by using it, the numbers 1998, 1994, and 2001 correspond to the years in which Peter Thompson was involved in litigation for the Oil, Nuclear Power, and Tobacco industries, wherein a lawsuit blaming each industry as the cause for an increase in cancer rates was filed. The last link of the four is also related, in that Peter Thompson states I work for criminals, always have always will. Or something like that. Because if Clair Nims is an annagram for Criminals.
Though this is just kind of an interesting bit of info at this point, the really interesting part is at the bottom of the page, where there is a post titled Follow Me.
There are several links, that force you to take some unrelated quizzes, which you have to sign up for, all for the purpose of piecing together the name of a .php file. If you click on the Answer link, a page shows up that just says Try Again, or something like that, and it links back to Phi-Eri. But the address ends with abcd.php, the idea being that you replace a,b,c, and d with some values that you get from the quizzes. I'll save everyone the trouble and just tell you that you should replace abcd.php with g22ab. This takes you to a message from Peter Thompson, which you can read for yourself, but at the bottom is more hexidecimal. Which says "offline for a couple of days", and a link of hex which says "will update Monday" that just sends you back to phi-eri. Sorry this was such a long comment, but you should definitely check it out.
Dustin,
i think we all decided that the Paik-Heavy site is a fan site and is NOT related to the game.
Am i right everyone?
Ross, 3:00 pm after school, you and me, by the monkey bars... it's on.
On a serious note: not that I have seen... on the site or in the comments thus far... It usually drops a bunch of clues between Tuesday and friday... but not much on the weekend as of yet.
C-ya and Namaste
www.MarvinCandle.com has got to be a fansite.
it is too cheezy and stupid for it to be something legit to the game.
(especially the spooky lost numbers in the back)
LAME
but sharp eye beka!
keep looking.
and we'll keep the real abc team running.
Persephone now has "2" posted on her site.
Damnit. I owe you a coke.
Shouldn'tve taken the time to e-mail the guys.
Crap.
This will be the stupidest thing I've ever written but...
Anyone have speculation as to what "2" means?
Don't know what to tell you. Except that those numbers are 3000x more interesting than.... the number 2.
Didn't find anything in the source code either. Except "2."
Wow. This is fun.
2.
I ran 2 through the text protion and came up with mg== in base 64. However when 2 is ran through hex that is when you get ag==. So the question is which one is it and what does it mean. I went to check the numbers and there was now a symbol there. maybe something is going to happen.
HAVING TROUBLE WITH THE PASSWORDS STILL??? All you guys need to do is "log in." Go to the newsletter page and try to sign up. "Talk" with Persephone and type in "yes" and then "breaking strain." It opens up everything else (as long as you have the passwords :)
P.S. I find it funny that only 30 year-old guys are ending their posts with "Namaste". Stop...it's kinda gay.
I think i found out the missing thing or where it goes. On the ERI(electrmagnetic Research Innitiave) Anyways I don't remember seeing this eariler but the coordinates now have a decimal point is this a hint as to where it goes.
persephone has changed:
2
yup.
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The only thing I noticed was the moving circles.
I haven't seen a 2 yet on the numbers just a * when i went to one page you wouldn't happen to have a link for it.
my theory:
2=b
just kidding
if, in fact, 2= "start of text" as belly0fdesire stated above, perhaps she's telling us that something is coming soon...
?????
it seems unlikely that 2 is the entire message.
Okay, I thought for a second that it (2) might be saying to check the 2nd option on the phone line again... so I called and checked. Nothing different on the U.S. version.
Yep. Grasping at frickin' straws.
ALSO checked out what the second clue (on this site at least) was... nada.
okay so I am confused when I go to the number site I see * instead of 2. Am I going to the wrong one and if i am what is the correct site. Also I was llokingat a ascaii chart and then symbol I see * stands for 42 but it didn't have a thing for what it stands for. Does anyone know what 42 stands for in ascaii.
"P.S. I find it funny that only 30 year-old guys are ending their posts with 'Namaste.' Stop...it's kinda gay."
God, if only we could all be 22 and post such cool profile pics as Metz. That would be just so . . . hetero.
quit being so fussy folks, after all this is just a game. let's work as a team.
let's try and figure out what Persephoene is about to tell us, not how gay or hetero we all aren't.
persophene.thehansofoundation.org is the real deal, so we KNOW this is a legitimate clue.
let's get some more ideas out there as to what it means...
i love it when someone named kull tries to make me look like a geek...but whatever. and i'm not out to ruin anybody's fun. these puzzles are already a little nerdy...its a little overkill to end every one of your comments with namaste. we all gotta read, including me, and i think everyone has seen the video so it is pretty redundant. that's all i will say on the matter. if you must feel like you have to do it so be it, but a few of us die a little in the inside each time you write it.
metz: i understand what you're saying, but you're right, this is a nerdy game. so if someone wants to nerd it up then i say go for it.
as for 2.com or two.com or whatever, if it's just a new site outside THF org that she's trying to point us to then we'll see it on the hanso commercial this week on lost. they're shamelessly blatant about that crap because most of them are commercials. i have a feeling 2 means that something more is coming...
so keep watching...
METZ,
NAMASTE,NAMASTE,NAMASTE,NAMASTE,NAMASTE,NAMASTE,NAMASTE,NAMASTE,NAMASTE,NAMASTE,NAMASTE,NAMASTE,NAMASTE,NAMASTE,NAMASTE,NAMASTE,NAMASTE,NAMASTE,NAMASTE,NAMASTE,NAMASTE,NAMASTE,NAMASTE,NAMASTE,NAMASTE,NAMASTE,NAMASTE,NAMASTE,NAMASTE,NAMASTE,NAMASTE,
Dead yet...jk...lol
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