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Clue #42 - Jimmy Kimmel Interview with Hugh McIntyre

Just watched Jimmy Kimmel's interview with Hugh McIntyre.
HERE is a full transcript.

HERE IS THE VIDEO that Renee recorded and sent to us.
HERE IS THE SAME VIDEO at another location.

We had our opinion of this video up on this site overnight. Decided to take it down and save "opinions" for the podcast.

However, I laughed out loud when they talked about savejoop.com. Seems like that petition might have gotten Hugh a little nervous! Those savejoop.com guys deserve big props - I can't wait to have them on the podcast next week. Seriously, after Jimmy Kimmel gave them a shout out, everyone should support them by at least buying one t-shirt (my 10 have already been ordered). They even added a new Anti-Hanso shirt! That's all I'll say about that.

Share your thoughts in the comments and on the message board.


Blogger Yakobus1 said...

i don't think they separated the two. they're probably shooting for like a wrap like they're blowing the whistle on the Hanso Foundation like Gary Troup did. maybe not, but i don't think it will ruin the fun either way

5/25/2006 12:29:00 AM  
Blogger Not4Sale said...

Did anyone else notice the clock on the left of the screen - clock showed 4:08 as the time!

5/25/2006 12:29:00 AM  
Blogger AngelElusive said...

Totally agree... it was awkward. At one point, 'Hugh' seemed to be looking down at his notes, like the couldn't remember the name of the Hanso Project. (WWPDP) I was really hoping there'd be a 'script' between Jimmy and Hugh, designed to give us a few answers.

..And the explanation about the picture of 'Hugh' on the Hanso webpage? That seemed weak. A webmaster mistake? C'mon...

5/25/2006 12:30:00 AM  
Blogger Badstreet said...

I don't know if anyone stuck around past the interview, but they aired a Hanso Foundation commercial during the break. It pointed to the phone number again. Maybe something's changed there. Or it's just trying to get new people into the experience before it gets too deep.

5/25/2006 12:31:00 AM  
Blogger fghf said...

ok...basically I am playing along as if Hanso is real. That is what the writers want, to blur the lines of reality and fiction much like the Blair Witch Project.

In essence, that was not Hugh. He was nervous and gave a BS answer when he was asked why the pic didnt match him. He said it was his predecessor, but he is in charge of the website...the first thing he would do is change his own pic!

I think the entire blurring reality is a stroke of pure genius!

5/25/2006 12:32:00 AM  
Blogger borge12 said...

I thought it was dumb. They mixed both the show and the game. Gary Troup really messes things up, seeing as he was in both. Hugh said that LOST was fictional, and well, Gary Troup is in LOST, so there is no book? That boggles the mind.

5/25/2006 12:33:00 AM  
Blogger nd32k3 said...

I dont think it changed the direction at all. It downplayed the TV show just like they downplayed Bad Twin. They don't want people to think that what goes on in Lost is related to their organization, even though it is so obvious that it is. They are still trying to represent themself to the public as a legitimate organization.

Jimmy Kimmel did a great job, the Hugh actor was pretty poor.

Maybe it isnt the 'real Hugh' because Hanso does not want people to know the real Hugh.

I think there are lots of directions to take this.

5/25/2006 12:36:00 AM  
Blogger Yakobus1 said...

still, the writers could be trying to work themselves in as players in this whole drama. like they're trying to get the message out about Hanso etc. and of course McIntyre would call Lost a work of fiction if he thought it was a threat, just like he did with Bad Twin

... sometimes i'm known as NinjaRabbi

5/25/2006 12:36:00 AM  
Blogger fghf said...

Hugh said lost was fictional because LOST is real. (in the game).He was supposed to look nervous and unprofessional and cheesy. That was all to make us in the game see that something is wrong with "Hugh". I think the "real" Hugh is dead.

The reason "Hugh" kep saying LOST is fictional is because in the game Hanso wants to deny that anything remotely like the island and the project exists. Perhaps we will find out that the lost script is actually written by Troup.

get it?

5/25/2006 12:38:00 AM  
Blogger renee said...

I laughed at the interview. Hugh was totally unprepared for his appearance. Maybe the Hanso Foundation hired an actor to show up for Jimmy Kimmel 'I'm not a Communications Director I just play one on TV.'

I'm uploading the mpg clip now....75% completed...almost there.

5/25/2006 12:42:00 AM  
Blogger Tyler said...

there were at least two subliminal messages in there. Someone upload the frame grabs!

5/25/2006 12:48:00 AM  
Blogger patchwork3930 said...

Oooh, I can't wait to see this. Thanks so much for uploading it for us non US folks!

5/25/2006 12:50:00 AM  
Blogger bill said...

i can't understand what the password is on 1877HANSORG

You have to listen to all the different extensions (2/3/4), and then go back to extension 1 (general information about the HANSO ORG), and then the message will break and you will get a password. it sounds like breaking stream. i'll try it again.

5/25/2006 12:55:00 AM  
Blogger MrDrew78 said...

Ok...Im debating in my own head...it was either
A) Cheesy. People in Labcoats in the background doing nothing, with a slightly confused looking spokesperson.
B) Cleverly orchestrated to look like it was A.

EIther way...no info brought forth. Im glad he remembered it was 40 years and not 30 like his little press release mixup. Of course, it was probably because he was reading it from obvious clue cards. Or was it Cleverly Orchestrated to look like....ugh, I give up.

5/25/2006 12:56:00 AM  
Blogger MrDrew78 said...

oh yeah..http://www.allstarfigures.com/cgibin/shopper.cgi?search=action&category=LOS1

its the first view of a new line of Lost toys..err, collectibles. Its Charlie. doing his nails or something?

5/25/2006 01:01:00 AM  
Blogger Jeff said...

I agree it was a little strange how he talked about the TV show as a work of fiction.

What is supposed to be real and what is supposed to be fake here?

Gary Troup is indirectly a part of the TV show (he died on the plane) but the Hanso foundation consideres both the TV show AND "Bad Twin" fiction. I'm confused.

5/25/2006 01:10:00 AM  
Blogger Thro said...

I wouldn't have preferred a script for this, otherwise I think it might have come off more fake. The Hugh was a bit unprepared, though. Come on, guys, a little background in improv...

But I prefer that they referred to it as a show, because it sounds like they're actually scared of the show that way. Like it might actually bring them down. Though they should have brought it up in their website or other related things earlier, because they react to Bad Twin like it's the end of the world, but the show that portrays them as crazy and reaches millions of viewers, they can just dismiss that as bad publicity... *BZZZZT*

5/25/2006 01:10:00 AM  
Blogger Will said...

Well, if they're trying to bridge the two...of course they have to say LOSST is fictional. How many camera crews do you know that patrol hidden islands and can sendc their footage back to civilization?

The point is, they're playing LOST as reality-based, not a reality show. Think of it like a docudrama of real-life events.

But the whole concept puzzles me. Everything they do advances the game or the show in some way. Why go through all the trouble to CREATE a character for the game, hire someone to play that character and book him in a slot that pretty much any established actor would jump to be on...and then not have him do anything?

Without takinng a second look, there has to be something there that we missed, somethhing he was told he HAD to do or say during his appearance.

5/25/2006 01:14:00 AM  
Blogger Jeff said...

I'm thinking that Hugh's apperance tonight was more of another way to get people to get involved in the Hanso webgame. Not so much for people already involved, as there was really no new information given.

5/25/2006 01:19:00 AM  
Blogger MrDrew78 said...

I just dont think he was there to give clues or anything..I think it was more of a promotion to the "ïnternet based reality game" for newbies or fans of the show that havent quite caught on. Thats why they aired the original phone number.

5/25/2006 01:19:00 AM  
Blogger Leighsa said...

Important points to note...

1987 is when the "Dharma Project" was supposedly stopped.
Hugh McIntyre was 'replaced' by that odd McIntyre...
other than that the interview was pretty lacking IMO

5/25/2006 01:22:00 AM  
Blogger Tony K. said...

Well, we know now that Hanso supposedly abandoned the Dharma initiative in 1987. That's something, right?

5/25/2006 01:24:00 AM  
Blogger trevorgladez said...

I thought it was the bees knees. For the Hanso Foundation to come out as a helpless Philanthropic organization wrongly represented by this terrible show, just blows my mind. I think Hugh was fantastic. I think he was meant to look like he was in a second rate research facility, and not to look very intimidating or particularly intelligent, and his purpose was not only to test the audience,(I bet Kimmell live had a spike in ratings!) but to establish a new level to this game. ABC wants to make it reality! but, C'mon, a personal assistant that needs a PhD? If they can make up fake jobs, can't everyone make up a fake resume?

5/25/2006 01:30:00 AM  
Blogger islandobsession said...

It's late here and I'm exhausted, but I really thought Kimmel was going to give us something important. Just after the McIntyre interview he said "I have to reveal something.... in that block of ice..." Of course he goes on to do a bit related to the American Idol finale so it was probably nothing at all, but my little heart skipped beat there! I was all ready to start entering "block of ice" into any login/password field I could find on THF!

5/25/2006 01:30:00 AM  
Blogger l3ryan said...

i dont think it was for new people nessecarily because if it was promotional they would do it a lot earlier not during Jimmy Kimmel Live lets admit it although decently humerous its no secret its not very large even in late night ratings

5/25/2006 01:32:00 AM  
Blogger b!X said...

Do I really have to stay up to watch it? Hours have passed and it's not yet in the usual places online?

5/25/2006 01:35:00 AM  
Blogger Joe said...

Wow, this is really getting pretty deep. TV Commercials, Interviews, etc.. it seems more like a real world government conspiracy. It's like this Hanso Foundation has been around for a long time, and maybe we're the experiment. Pretty spooky.

5/25/2006 01:35:00 AM  
Blogger mummifiedstalin said...

The "reality" thing was weird. On the official podcast, though, Lindelof and Cuse both played up the "we've gotten in trouble with this Hanso Foundation for using them in the show" line. They suggested that there was going to be some kind of legal action against them.

Whatever comes of that, those guys were playing the same game as Lost is fiction but Hanso is real, which wasn't how I was playing the game. (As I understood it, both LOST and the Lost Experience were part of the same "reality" and we're finding out clues about Hanso while the losties are doing their thing on the island.)

5/25/2006 01:45:00 AM  
Blogger im_the_rick said...

I found the interview to be interesting, but not all that enlightening. The only useful piece of info was that they stopped the project in 1987...

However I think almost everything "Hugh" said was carefully orchestrated and probably full of lies (i.e. I'm not sure we should trust that 1987 date). I think the actor did his job well enough, and gave off the right mix of covering things up, and carefully choosing his words to try and disavow The Hanso Foundation from the show. The way Hugh was speaking, it was clear he was trying to play off Lost as fiction, but in reality the show comes far too close to spreading the truth about The Hanso Foundation.

The only part that came off really poorly was when he clearly had no clue what WWPDP stood for. Whoops.

5/25/2006 02:00:00 AM  
Blogger DuckHuntLogic said...


What subliminal messages are you talking about??

5/25/2006 02:09:00 AM  
Blogger jlmlostarg said...

I'm glad to see that some of you are finally getting the idea behind the ARG. The TV show is just that, a tv show. Nothing that is going on in the show is related to the Hanso Foundation...at least not in the way we have been thinking and acting. Try this theory- Lindeloff and Cuse and Abrams stumble upon this thing called the Hanso Foundation which funded some wierdo hippie communal psych experiment in the 70's called the Dharma Initiative. It intrigues them, so they dig around and find some old "training" videos that no one seems to claim ownership to that detail part of what this Dharma thing messed with. So these guys sit down and script a tv show that incorporates this stuff in their version of, never realizing the effect it has on the "actual" company.
Sounds good to me, until the Gary Troup thing comes into the picture, huh? That kinda throws a wrench into the whole mess...With out him, the whole scenario makes perfect sense, right? Or is it just really late?

5/25/2006 02:12:00 AM  
Blogger cmac458 said...

is There any chance someone could post the lost finale up cause im having trouble downloading thanx for hugh on kimmel

5/25/2006 02:21:00 AM  
Blogger lostgrrl said...

it sounds like breaking stream

You're close....it sounds like you're just starting the game...be sure to work your way up from Clue #1 on this blog.

its the first view of a new line of Lost toys..err, collectibles. Its Charlie. doing his nails or something?

He's writing FATE on this fingers...from Season 1.

As for Hugh...yes not what I expected at all...definitely cheesy...I was expecting a serious, secret service type in a three piece suit who acted extremely condescending and intimidating. Instead we got this friendly fellow...but that actually may be quite a clever twist on the part of TPTB...trying to turn our sympathies to the Hanso Foundaton.

The photo excuse was horribly lame though....

5/25/2006 02:36:00 AM  
Blogger b!X said...

The mentioning of Lost ruins the entire alternate reality of the game, however. We know in the context of the ARG that there's supposed to be an actual Flight 815 that crashed in September 2004. So how, exactly, could a TV show have premiered in September 2004 showing the crash of a FLight 815?

Stooping to actually having a Lost show mentioned in the ARG context at all is a fatal flaw.

5/25/2006 02:41:00 AM  
Blogger adam said...

It was obvious that they were trying to make fans (and non-fans) believe that the Hanso foundation is real. It was super cheesy. The people walking around in the background looked super chessy. You would think that abc would have a big budget.

I like the idea of the hanso foundation being part of the lost story world, NOT a real life organization. UNLESS, unless they are using the Hanso foundation to explain why there are systems on the Island that were set up in the 70's-80's. BUT, if they attempt to mix this modern 'real life' Hanso organization in with the fictional show (lost) then it will destroy the story in my opinion. You cannot have a fictional produced television show mix in with a real organization, unless they only use the hanso organization to give background to the situation on the Island.

The last thing I want to see is someone like hugh or hanso showing up on the Island as if lost was a live reality television show. That would end up being rediculous. I highly doubt that would happen though.

I really like how they brought up 'save joop'. I really think that the Lost writers are working with the fans with this whole Lost Experience - maybe even with the show itself.

5/25/2006 02:49:00 AM  
Blogger lostluvr29 said...

islandobsession said "my little heart skipped beat there! I was all ready to start entering "block of ice" into any login/password field I could find on THF!"

Ok...LMAO....don't we all know that feeling? LOL

5/25/2006 02:52:00 AM  
Blogger Metz said...

little equation for you... monster.com + jeep + jimmy kimmel show + next marketable item = lost experience.

5/25/2006 03:07:00 AM  
Blogger Richard said...

The interview was definately cheezy, probably it wasn't supposed to be, but just didnt have a lot of time/budget for it. Didn't really tell us much.
the season finale, however...

5/25/2006 03:10:00 AM  
Blogger harv4eva said...

"We know in the context of the ARG that there's supposed to be an actual Flight 815 that crashed in September 2004. So how, exactly, could a TV show have premiered in September 2004 showing the crash of a FLight 815?"

Yeah I'd have to say something has botched here. bad concept bad writing, bad idea so far, unless they turn this around, and somehow have like a lost epsiode where the real people behind it are watching the Jimmy Kimmel show, or liek the people on the island see the footage.

5/25/2006 03:22:00 AM  
Blogger cprout said...

I missed the last two minutes...I got the phone call to the ex girlfriend and then my tivo cut it off...
what did I miss?

5/25/2006 03:31:00 AM  
Blogger TEAM Lena said...

Weird, saw a simular post like this last week...

Can you tell me the last thing you saw and I can catch ya up.

5/25/2006 03:45:00 AM  
Blogger Claude said...


I don't know if this matters, but I just spent a lot of time reading the previous clues. This is my first post here, too.

I did not see the live show, but someone here mentioned the quote, "I have to reveal something.... in that block of ice..."

Well, Clue #31 seems to have some connection with this. "Alvar being cryogenically frozen in Pheonix."

A clue from the show?

5/25/2006 03:47:00 AM  
Blogger b!X said...

This interview STILL isn't online?

5/25/2006 04:09:00 AM  
Blogger TEAM Lena said...

I KNOW!!! I taped it (VHS) as I dont have Tivo or DVD burner :( but dont have a way to upload from the VHS.

Yes...due to money issues, we live in the stoneage here LOL

If anyone finds it, share! I would love to see the comments fly on it!

5/25/2006 04:13:00 AM  
Blogger Lost Fanatic Stu said...

please!! some one post the show already! im dying here!!!!!!

5/25/2006 04:34:00 AM  
Blogger oclor said...

They did seperate the show from the experience. They are making so that it's the writers of the show and Gary Troup Vs. the hanso foundation. If you listen to the official lost podcast, even the producers of lost talk about the hanso foundation like its a real foundation that they have based their show on.

5/25/2006 04:38:00 AM  
Blogger oclor said...

That block of Ice thing had Jimmy's prediction of who wins American Idol, nothing else.

5/25/2006 04:39:00 AM  
Blogger pntballkd said...

Everyone keeps talking about the fact that for this to be ARG that the flight had to have taken place. If you use the www.oceanic-air.com website isn't that enough "real life proof" that the plane crash occured?

5/25/2006 05:40:00 AM  
Blogger Lost Souls' Star said...

I was more than let down when they mentioned Lost...I think that was ABC's way of plugging the show, while making HANSO seem real so that people would develope an interest in joining the game, probably to keep people's interest peaked or satiated, during the summer break so they don't lose viewership. All I can say is they should have NEVER mentioned Lost, if anything they should have mentioned the book, and the flight and rumors about a conspiracy that HANSO was behind the disappearance/alleged destruction of that doomed flight. If they really didn't want to scare people who don't watch the show (Are there such beings?), or even gain viewership, they should have shown a disclaimer before that segment warning people that the following interview is with a fictional character based on the hit TV show Lost, or something like a text crawler on the bottom of the screen. Unfortunately, they can't turn back time so that's one mistake they would kick themselves for a long, long time. They could have learned from past faux-broadcasts made to be as realistic as possible, such as the Sci-Fi channel promos for The Blair Witch Project, Pitch Black, and M Night Shyamalan (which aired the week before "The Village" hit theaters)...or even 20th Century Fox, when they did Independence Day news footage, as well as the 1st X-Men movie all done seamlessly! Sorry, as much as I love Lost, and how impressed I have been with the depths and magnitude of the game (pre-Kimmel interview)...this was an explosive let down. The ONLY way to recover is if they downplay the interview as a Kimmel "Lost The Experience" parody segment!

5/25/2006 05:45:00 AM  
Blogger Lost Souls' Star said...

Sorry for the long post...had to vent.

5/25/2006 05:47:00 AM  
Blogger khal said...

I think some of you guys are of... I mean, if the whole point of this game is to present some form of "alternate reality" (I'm not too familiar with ARGs), they are doing so. I mean, let's put this into perspective: if you owned and organization that was secretive, possibly involved in some big corruption that you don't want let out, and there's a flippin' POPULAR TV SHOW seemingly opening up that can of worms, wouldn't you want to be proactive and deflect that? The fact that it's on an ABC show is obvious -- but notice there weren't a lot of jokes, it was pretty much question fi question, which was pretty different from the normal Kimmel affair. I think this was a perfect way to bring this to life. It made THF seem like a REAL ORGANIZATION, and it also sparked interest. Why would they plug websites that show connections between Dharma and THF, but then just disclaim that LOST is opening that info up? REVERSE PSYCHOLOGY? This makes me even MORE interested in this, trying to figure out WHY?!!?

I just think some of you should step outside the box and take a deeper look at this.


5/25/2006 06:19:00 AM  
Blogger khal said...

PS @ claude --- the block of ice thing was totally unrelated. Jimmy Kimmel said he wrote a name of one of the american idol contestants on a piece of paper, wrapped it in bacon, and placed it in a block of ice. they opened it up, but it wasn't taylor hicks -- it was bucky covington.

he was wrong, but "the paper smells like bacon".

not LOST related in my eyes.

5/25/2006 06:21:00 AM  
Blogger khal said...

PPS: I do NOT believe that's Hugh.

5/25/2006 06:22:00 AM  
Blogger The Truth Tempest said...


Please do hear me out.

It was 4:08 -AM- in Copenhagen, Denmark. Or at least that is how it is portrayed.

Thus, I'd say it matched well with any interviews done at such an insane hour. He seemed tired and a bit distracted, and it was obviously all well played to give the idea that the Hanso Foundation is real.

What some people may forget is that, well, the Hanso Foundation is part of the show. Have we not learned anything from LOST's different experience? The show is not just what we watch. The show is more aptly a theatre. A combination of the show, online experience, real-life tie-ins, and community discussion. LOST -is- the experience.

The Hanso Foundation is part of the theatrics. Part of the entertainment. It is not making a case for The Hanso Foundation actually being real and the show fake; it is making a case for both being part of a greater form of entertainment. Take the interview as though it was a clip from the show. An outside dialogue of sorts.

The websites and every little "sponsored by Dharma Initiative" little thing is part of the experience, not part of some attempt at portraying theatrics as reality. We are entertained by an -Alternate Reality-. Not just building falsehoods into actual reality as though Alvar Hanso is a real person. The show and the interview and the websites are all part of the Alternate Reality that is meant solely for our entertainment.

We are all part of the LOST Experience. A form of entertainment that is all of the pieces combined. Something different than a tv show. A new form of immersive entertainment. A massive Rocky Horror Picture Show if you will, full of audience participation. Actors taken as real only in the realm of the experience. And above all else, an experience to remember. Namaste.

That is LOST.

of the Dharma Initiative

5/25/2006 06:32:00 AM  
Blogger renee said...


This interview STILL isn't online?

I've sent the link to the site owners. I'm sure they will post it as soon as they have a chance.

Comments like this make me angry. I stayed up late last night editing and uploading the clip (I have to be at work at 7:30 AM mind you) and I come here and see rude comments like that. I think some of you need to remember that some of us have lives outside of Lost and other responsibilities. The guys who run this site aren't getting paid to do so, and I'm not getting anything for providing the clip. I'm also providing bandwidth from my web hosting account which I PAY FOR so you can see it.

It would be nice if people appreciated what everyone is doing instead of complaining about it.

5/25/2006 06:49:00 AM  
Blogger frenetic said...

thank you so much, renee. most of us are patient and respectful of such selfless works. namaste!

5/25/2006 07:09:00 AM  
Blogger Ithinkimgonnalibby said...


5/25/2006 08:54:00 AM  
Blogger mummifiedstalin said...

I think it's fair to try to defend the mixing of realities.

My problem is that now it seems like the "alternate reality" isn't consistent. In the game, is the show supposed to be real or fiction? The ARG was only fun for me when we were supposed to be assuming that what was happening on the island was "real." Now, if the "real" alternate reality is just the producers using a supposedly real Hanso, then nothing on the show can really affect the game since it's all just "fiction" as far as the ARG is concerned.

So it's like they've split the mythology: the show is one entirely fictional universe. The ARG is another "alternate reality" in which what happens on the show doesn't really matter because it's all just "fiction."

So I'm bummed as far as the ARG is concerned.

5/25/2006 08:59:00 AM  
Blogger Marty said...

Chaps, I had a late night (and slightly p***ed) epiphony last night, that in the cold light of day meant nothing. Untill i read the transcript. "A woman, or a 10 r old". so with that in your mind, read last nights ramblings:

aha. the blank face is ref mcityres missing photo. if you know one, you are one, is somebodys realisation they are part of what they despise. happy mothers day....could it be that persephone is mcintyres bit on the side, blowing the lid? and shes pregnant, and thats why? or even the daughter of mcityres mistress? bit random, but its late in the uk!

5/25/2006 09:04:00 AM  
Blogger Marty said...

sorry. let me give a transcript for the teminally sober. assuming the "face" is a ref to Mcintyre, I went back to "compass/usr", and looked into his directory. the news paper advert in there has some faint backwards writing (ie on the other side of the page) "if you kow one, you are on", and "happy mothers day". So i summised that either the girlfriend in the previous clue had realised Hanso org was big, and bad, (if you know one...) and was trying to do the right thing. Maybe shes preggers, and getting no support (happy mothers day), or Mcintyres mistress was from days gone by, and this is the offspring posting. either way, either the woman, or the kid, could be persephone. (woman, or a 10 yr old). whether this is right or not. its damn ingenious. do i get a prize?

5/25/2006 09:12:00 AM  
Blogger Dan said...

I don't think it is worth reading too much into the interview, particularly given the ARG is supposed to be a global experience, yet this interview aired in the US only.

My guess is that this is purely a publicity stunt to try and get more Americans involved before the break between seasons 2 and 3.

5/25/2006 09:17:00 AM  
Blogger TheFooFish said...

After last night's interview, it is now more obvious than ever that most of us are rooting for the wrong team. On one side, we have a noble orginization that is trying to make the world a better place. And on the other side, we have hackers and conspiricy theorists who break laws and spread lies. My theory is, Persephone got fired or something and then decided to try to get some "revenge" by attacking THF. We're rooting for the wrong team, Hanso are the good guys. http://www.defendinghanso.org

BTW, has anyone made any progress on the hole2 pic?

5/25/2006 09:29:00 AM  
Blogger Marty said...

FF, so why they getting people to push buttons, and watching from afar. Is this an acceptable perversion. and does it appear on any websites? =)

I half agree with what your saying, but im going down the jilted lover route (for the next hour at least)

5/25/2006 09:36:00 AM  
Blogger silverat said...

I can't believe no one caught it, but doesn't anyone notice the green text messages during the "snow" screens?

5/25/2006 10:14:00 AM  
Blogger silverat said...

there are three, one in about few seconds into the video and another halfway and last one is around the end

5/25/2006 10:15:00 AM  
Blogger silverat said...

actually i'm not getting any text from the one in the middle so scratch that

5/25/2006 10:20:00 AM  
Blogger Tyler said...

there were at least two points in the broadcast when the screen when fuzzy and I saw some flashes and text, too fast for me to read. I have watched "Fight Club" too much and I am a video sw engineer, so stuff like that sticks out to me. Most notably was a point when Jimmy asked about the discrepency between the Hugh photo and the "Hugh" being interviewed.

I suspect they are messages from Persephone.Someone needs to get an HD stream capture and go frame by frame.

5/25/2006 10:59:00 AM  
Blogger ORA-29306 said...

the mpeg gives me a 403 i can break it apart at home tonight and see if i can see anything on the frame level.

i thought about this last night but i was too tired to do anything

plus im in the tv tech old days

5/25/2006 11:11:00 AM  
Blogger TheBookPolice said...

Thank you, tyler. I was about to post my amazement that no one had discussed the static ("fuzziness") from last night's interview.

I hope someone steps up with screen grabs.

5/25/2006 11:11:00 AM  
Blogger JD said...

I started to download it from my TIVO but didn't have time this morning. I'm still not sure that the quality will be good enough to get the subLYMONal messages...

5/25/2006 11:25:00 AM  
Blogger iceman said...

I don't think Hugh mentioning LOST as a fictitious show ruins anything. We know that LOST takes place in an alternate reality, but we also know that Hanso Foundation exists in the same alternate reality. So Hugh mentioning Lost as fiction, just means that in that reality LOST's writers are somehow in the know as to what is happening on that Island. Those of you who think that they were trying to portray Hugh and Hanso as being "real" are seeing this all wrong. The more interesting quesiton is, how do the writers of LOST (in the alternate reality) know about what is happening on the island. My opinion anyway

5/25/2006 11:28:00 AM  
Blogger TheFooFish said...

If we don't find hidden text in the static, maybe we could try merging it with the hole2 pic? Of course, we need screencaps of the static first.

5/25/2006 11:40:00 AM  
Blogger VeryLost said...

I had the capture posted last night at like 1am (in the other clue blog...you know the one ABOUT the interview). Sorry those of you that were jonsing for it didn't look there.

hugh on kimel

5/25/2006 11:40:00 AM  
Blogger theronin said...

Hey....a thought suddenly came to mind

What if we've been lookin at that faceless picture all wrong

What if Persephone was trying to tell us that this person on Kimmel WOULD be different with this picture

What instead of all this...it's just a faceless picture

Faceles= more than one person fills the role?

5/25/2006 11:45:00 AM  
Blogger TheFooFish said...

theronin, that's just silly. There is one Hugh McIntyre, we saw him last night. He explained that the update of the website caused some confusion with the pictures.

5/25/2006 11:54:00 AM  
Blogger Joe said...

Okay, if we all have an idea of time, and i know we all do.... the interview took 5:03. (FIVE minutes). Now, if the clock at the beginning of the segment showed 4:04 (Which it looks like it does,) why at the end of the segment didn't it read the time advancement? (Hence why does the clock still read 4:04 even after FIVE minutes of an interview?) (Eerie music plays)

5/25/2006 11:59:00 AM  
Blogger theronin said...

foofish.....your kidding me right

5/25/2006 12:06:00 PM  
Blogger Joe said...

No, check the camera view when the interview starts... 4:04 or what I think it is.... then wqhen the interview ends, still 4:04. Dead batteries? Or maybe I am being foofish.

5/25/2006 12:09:00 PM  
Blogger theronin said...

joe....foofish is the poster above you that seems to have completely bought McIntyre's bogus webmaster line about the picture

You may be right joe...I didn't see a clock during the interview so I don't know

foofish? are you kidding or are you serious....I think I might have something....but it could be nothing

5/25/2006 12:13:00 PM  
Blogger Joe said...

But listen to how he says it. It was his predacessor, then he took control for the past 2 months. and HIS webmaster just left it up there. if HE was taking control of it, why would his WEBMASTER leave the picture up?

5/25/2006 12:22:00 PM  
Blogger TheFooFish said...

I'm serious. I think hole2 will have a more obvious use at some point.

Also, I didn't see a clock in the interview either, where is it?

5/25/2006 12:23:00 PM  
Blogger Joe said...

BTW, the clock is on the desk on the Right side of the picture. You can only see it at the beginning and the end of the interview. Look carefully, it appears like the hands disappear, or maybe it's a Video glitch. Just keep looking for it on the right side on the desk behind him. THX.

5/25/2006 12:24:00 PM  
Blogger Joe said...

Sorry, LEFT side of the screen.

5/25/2006 12:24:00 PM  
Blogger TheFooFish said...

joe, Hugh didn't say he took control, he just said one of his responsibilities was helping with the update of the website.

5/25/2006 12:26:00 PM  
Blogger Joe said...

I have an image if anyone wants it...

5/25/2006 12:30:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

verylost: isn't this THE blog about the interview... also there are 4 different versions of the video posted on the front page at this time, if you haven't seen the video yet, you haven't looked at all... they offer almost every possible method of viewing the video

LOST is just a TV Show: I believe he stated this to deminish the show's integrity in the same manner he is trying to deter people from reading Bad Twin.

Hidden Messages: I've gone through those static fuzzies, because that is where I assumed the message to be as well, but haven't found anything. I really don't think there is anything there, but if there is anything anywhere, that is where I would suspect it to be.... or something like that

The clock did say 4:08, but I don't think that's of any significance other than 4 and 8 are two of the numbers...

I've intently watched the labcoats in the back, but can't find anything there... nothing on his desk seems relevant...

He did stumble on his words, which is unlike the nature of this game. Gary Troup never stumbled on any of his words and spoke quite eloquently. His interviews weren't live of course, but it still makes me wonder if his stumbling was part of the game or if it was just nervousness of an actor who hasn't been on live television before. His story as to the different picture is a little fishy as well.

I was fully entertained by the interview and had my face about a foot away from the screen. Plus he had me crackin' up with his opening monologue...

I obsess over any information that is fed to us until we can extract from it it's purpose in the game and this is no different. Please, no matter how stupid you think your thoughts are, if it hasn't been posted before, please post it. Together, we can solve all of these clues..... except, of course, for that faceless man image...

metz... I'm just wondering, are you enjoying this game?

5/25/2006 12:31:00 PM  
Blogger Joe said...

Thx for the correction foofish. I heard it wrong.

5/25/2006 12:32:00 PM  
Blogger TheFooFish said...

If that's a clock, it looks more like it says 5:04 to me, but in any case, it certainly isn't moving.

5/25/2006 12:32:00 PM  
Blogger ORA-29306 said...

Joe, the clock is a prop it's probably just there for "show" I think the time is set that way because of the time it was when the interview took place 11:05 central is about 4:00 in DK

5/25/2006 12:34:00 PM  
Blogger TheFooFish said...

As for the static, I've been digging through it too and can't find anything but static. We might just have to wait for someone with better technology at their disposal- or maybe we need to use hole2 as some kind of filter?

5/25/2006 12:36:00 PM  
Blogger icallwindow said...

It looked like the the Hanso Foundation was growing a little canibus directly behind Hugh. heh

As for cheesy acting et. al... shit, I mean, this guy is obviously a nobody actor, and all the sudden he's on JIMMY KIMMEL LIVE. (Okay, not that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things, but for someone who's been KNOW WHERE?) I don't think his flub ups were intentional... I think he was just pissing his pants just being there.

At the end of the day, though, you do have to realize this is JUST A GAME, and that the producers of it are doing an amazing job and spending ridiculous amounts of money to keep it afloat. I must say, I'm really impressed, even if the actor was shakey and there were a few plot holes in his spiel. You can't expect them to be 100% perfect all the time, especially with something so elaborate.

5/25/2006 12:38:00 PM  
Blogger Joe said...

Here's the photo.

5/25/2006 12:41:00 PM  
Blogger TheBookPolice said...

Don't forget: Jimmy was stepping all over Hugh's responses, too. To the point, actually, that it seemed too egregious to be accidental or "bad interviewing."

Hugh's stumbling manner could be as intentional as the hostile witness-style interview.

5/25/2006 12:43:00 PM  
Blogger Joe said...

Definately some herbage going on behind Mr. Hugh.

5/25/2006 12:43:00 PM  
Blogger theronin said...

but foo.....how could you possibly buy into that stumbling-half-assed excuse about the picture?

5/25/2006 12:46:00 PM  
Blogger TheBookPolice said...

I think I have your answer, theronin. thefoofish left off the closing tag on his post. It is as follows:


(god, i hope so)

5/25/2006 12:48:00 PM  
Blogger G_Man said...

A discrepency to note. Hugh in the interview said the funding for the Dharma Initiative was pulled in 1987. However, the previously mentioned shutdown date (or "suspected shutdown date" from the blast door) was 10/28/1984.

5/25/2006 12:51:00 PM  
Blogger Joe said...

Payroll for the people still on the island?

5/25/2006 12:52:00 PM  
Blogger TheFooFish said...

kyle and theronin, I don't think Hugh's explanation was that unreasonable. Obviously, there has been a lot of movement going on within the Hanso Foundation lately, and with the website also being in the process of being updated, some small slips with the pictures don't seem too unreasonable. Plus, the people working with the website have probably had bigger concerns lately, like, maybe a mischevious little hacker?

5/25/2006 01:00:00 PM  
Blogger theronin said...

wow....that's all I can say foo....wow

5/25/2006 01:17:00 PM  
Blogger DJ_MENTOS said...

Did anyone have the problem with the interview in view of timing?

Hugh was in DENMARK! Jimmy Kimmel was in LOS ANGELES! But the feed appeared to be instantaneous, instead of any time delay. Whats up with that? Is that a production error, or was he actually close by?

5/25/2006 01:18:00 PM  
Blogger icallwindow said...

dj_mentos: Of course he was close by. You guys are totally overestimating ABC. They probably just completely forgot to drop in a time delay. And it's not as if they're actually going to send some guy to Denmark.

This game is MUCH, MUCH simpler than I think we're working it out to be. I mean, come on, they're practically spoon feeding us clues. I really don't think anyone should be looking this far into it.

5/25/2006 01:24:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

That would be great if they were to actually send the guy to Denmark just so they could have a delay... lol..

As for the game being "much, much simpler"... I disagree... The encryption methods used, the subtle differences we are expected to notice and that faceless man are all exemplifications of the thought they are putting into the puzzles we are to solve... I am LOVING the challenge. They do hand feed the general public by placing the Hanso commercials in the middle of the Lost episode, however, just following those commercials doesn't give you the whole game. And I don't believe they are "spoon feeding" the clues to those of us who are obsessed with the game.

hole2 was a combination of 2 clues. It was sitting there for God only knows how long before we found it. One week we got the encrypted, anagrammed and obscure quote about mice relying on more than one hole, which we didn't figure out until Persephone gave us a second hint with a simple 2 shown on the page. I enjoy the challenge of the puzzles and riddles they are giving us and wouldn't at all consider it "spoon feeding".

5/25/2006 01:37:00 PM  
Blogger FeaR-ME said...

Hey, I've just watched Hugh's interview. And I'm completely LOST! Couse Hugh and Jimmy refer to LOST as a show... But isn't true that everything related to the Hanso Foundation is part of the show's reality? I mean.. THF and THF's characters must not know about lost as a show, they must know about the plane crash, the island, but not the show! Isn't that a HUGE mistake from the production? I really didn't get it!
Please, can someone explain this for me? I'd be very thankful.

5/25/2006 01:56:00 PM  
Blogger TheFooFish said...

DJ_MENTOS said "Hugh was in DENMARK! Jimmy Kimmel was in LOS ANGELES! But the feed appeared to be instantaneous, instead of any time delay. Whats up with that?"

Maybe the Hanso Foundation has some hi-tech transmission equipment which negates time delays... maybe developed from the ERI?

5/25/2006 01:58:00 PM  
Blogger TheFooFish said...

Fear-me, Lost is a work of fiction, much like Bad Twin, which makes reference to the Hanso Foundation. The key words there are "work of fiction", so I wouldn't take anything you see or read in those works as fact.

5/25/2006 02:01:00 PM  
Blogger FeaR-ME said...

Yeah man, but u didn't get me. I mean, right at the beginning Jimmy asks Hugh if he watched Lost episode. This enters in conflict with the fact that Hugh is part of the show! It's the same as if we see in the next episode Jack asking kate if she liked the end of the second season.... I'll say it again, Hugh is a character as Locke and all the other losties... I'm sure that it was some production's mistake... Does anybody else agree with me?

5/25/2006 02:11:00 PM  
Blogger TheBookPolice said...

fear-me, you're missing the point. Lost: The Experience is an alternate reality game (ARG). That means that for the purposes of the game, certain facets of the television show "Lost" are assumed to be, in fact, reality.

Were you not listening to the interview? Hugh stated very clearly that THF is real, DI was real, and that "Lost" is a television show that has latched onto the "realities" of THF and made them out to be evil and shadowy.

This is what is called in theatre a "conceit."

I'm sorry if this doesn't clarify anything, but confusion and line-blurring is part of the game.

5/25/2006 02:16:00 PM  
Blogger Dr. Script said...

I kept waiting for something to happen to the scientists in the back, they droop a test tube na dusddenly gas fills the room and they start to die, or Joop gets wheeled by the window and breaks free killing the scientists.
Usually, when an interview like this is done, the interviewee is typically infront of a solid back drop. The of the Presidnet's speeches or when someone accepts an emmy via satilite.
So why is there some much going on behind him?
Also, for anyone who might also be a fan of Grey's Anatomy, after their season finale, Kimmel was "bitten" by a snake and "taken" to the hospital only to be visited by Grey's cast.
With a history like that, I'm willing to bet that this was just a Kimmel pulled act, and not really for anyone's benefit other than his ratings.

5/25/2006 02:26:00 PM  
Blogger FeaR-ME said...

Ok kyle, Thinkin this way u're right. But think my way: Why does THF refeer to Gary Troup as a real person? Because in the Experience's reality he is. Also, THF is real IN THE EXPERIENCE'S REALITY. So, in the experience's reality happened a Plane crashe accident. In this same reality all the characters that we see at the show are real, and all the characters that belongs to the experience are also real. Agreed? ok.. Now back to the interview: they mentioned Persephone, that is a real person only in the ARG's reality... So if the interview was submitted to the ARG's/Experience's/Show's reality, I'm sure that I'm right. It was a mistake.

Sorry for those who doesn't agree.

5/25/2006 02:27:00 PM  
Blogger TheBookPolice said...

You're asking the right questions, but instead of looking for the answers, you're assuming that the questions are borne solely out of a production error.

The fact that Gary Troup has been "denounced" by THF makes him part of the ARG. The fact that Sawyer is reading his manuscript makes him part of the "fictional" television show Lost.

Now, while Hugh is stating that there is no island, and the events depicted on it are fictional. However, there was (in the show and in the ARG) an Oceanic Flight 815 that went missing.

So how do the two reconcile? Someone is lying, or at the very least trying to obscure the truth. And that, if my understanding of "Bad Twin" is accurate, is Gary Troup's whole point in the book.

Think about the ARG (aka The Experience) as a secondary reality latched onto our own.

There's the you, me, Jimmy Kimmel reality we all know about and live in.

There's the Hugh McIntyre, THF website and commercials, "Dharma Initiative was shut down" reality of the ARG. This reality is touching our reality even though we know it's fictional.

There's the television show "Lost" storyline, which is being disputed by THF and Hugh McIntyre, but vouched for by the "Lost" writers and Gary Troup

Persephone is a fictional character in our reality, but a real hacker in the ARG reality. Therefore, she is being treated as an actual human being who is hacking the website you and I can go to.

Trust me, it's not a mistake.

I need a drink.

5/25/2006 02:41:00 PM  
Blogger FeaR-ME said...

It's twisting my mind!

This whole realities story is really messy...

I'll try to understand... let's see.. As far as we know, Dharma is part of the show, and for been connected to THF it's also part of the ARG, what makes THF touching the 3 realities? Isn't it? So what can we assume - if it was not a mistake - is that at the ARG's reality, the show is a fictional history based on a true fact that is the plane accident?

Now I need a drink too...

5/25/2006 02:57:00 PM  
Blogger Gopi said...

The actor wasn't very convincing, he didn't give me an impression that he was a "real" spokesman. Jimmy Kimmel played along really well, though, compared to "Hugh". I will say they both did a relatively good job.

5/25/2006 03:05:00 PM  
Blogger lics said...

I noticed that the pictures for Conakry Hospital, Guinea and International Aid Effort, Ethiopia on the WWPDP World Map flash bit now has the blank pictures with the question mark in the middle. Am I losing my mind? There were pictures there this morning………..

5/25/2006 03:10:00 PM  
Blogger JD said...

Alternate reality? What are we talking about. THF is real. There is a TV show called LOST, there is also a TV show called American Idol (unfortunatly), they actually mentioned both durring the interview, I don't see the problem. When flight 815 crashed the producers of LOST obviously decided to capitalize on that and make the TV show just like that movie about the flight that crashed on 9-11. The reality is that the producers of LOST are a little too close to the truth just like Troup is in his book.

I don't understand what you guys are talking about alternate reality. I was on the Hanso monster page while I was watching LOST last night. I guess you would have to be schizophrenic (sp?) to think there was some alternate reality... I think we all need to stop wasting so much time watching and talking about TV shows and focus on what's really important finding out what's going on at THF and what Persephone is trying to tell us before some thing truly catostrophic happens.

Peace & Man Eats!!!

5/25/2006 03:52:00 PM  
Blogger theronin said...

^^^speaking of schizophrenic^^^^^^

Dude...you've gotta be kidding me....please tell me your not serious

I spose you think there's really a burkitsville, maryland and those three poor kids are still out there too

5/25/2006 06:33:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

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5/25/2006 07:09:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

I can see JD's point. While playing this game, the only way to play it correctly is to let yourself be absorbed by the game and let the ARG become your reality.

In reality, Gary Troup, Alvar Hanso, Hugh McIntyre, tropical polar bears, 105 year old orangutans, the valenzetti equation, and cancer and paralysis curing islands are all fiction. But when we step into game mode, it is all just as real as you and me. That's the best way to play this game...

I can also see why you might call him schizophrenic tho...

I really agree with and appreciate Kyle's explanation...

word... and namaste...

5/25/2006 07:13:00 PM  
Blogger JD said...

I thought it was obvious that I was kidding. Suspension of reality is part of an ARG. The idea is that what is happening is real, thus the newspaper adds, the TV adds, the book, the web site, etc. When you play you are supposed to imagine that it's all real. It's not that the game exists in a seperate reality but it exists in the real world. The Lost TV show exists in the real world. So if you are going to imagine that the game exists in the real world you have to acknowledge that the TV show exists. If Hanso is a real company then they would obviously be concerned with the TV show. My previous post was sort of a toung in cheek stab at how you are supposed to see the game... Really I'm totaly sane. I promise. My psychologist told me so. :-)

Peace & Man Eats!!!

5/25/2006 07:14:00 PM  
Blogger theronin said...

sorry...I jumped to that post to fast....I TOTALLY see where ur comin from now

Good Point...and good stance!

5/25/2006 07:20:00 PM  
Blogger JD said...

No problem. At least now I know that I spell schizo correctly.

Be quiet, I'm not going to type that... Sorry just the voices in my head again. :-)

Have fun guys!!!

5/25/2006 07:42:00 PM  
Blogger TEAM Lena said...


5/25/2006 08:23:00 PM  
Blogger SDiddy said...

fear-me, I hear what you are saying and I kinda agree. There are these different realities, but they arent defined very well. Where does Cindy Chandler fit in? She and Gary Troup are characters on the island and in the Hanso reality. I get that we need to just go with it, it just seems to mess the continuity.

5/25/2006 08:26:00 PM  
Blogger Christopher said...

I really think the Kimmel spot was just a way to draw new players into the game as the show goes away for the summer.

Still the thing I think is important from the interview is at the very end. Jimmy asks. "Why all the secrecy?" Hugh responds, "We're here to be as clear and as transparent as possible." Hugh's bio reports that his motto is "accuracy and transparency above all." I'm not sure why Hugh would be giving out clues, and I don't know what to do with it, but I think the word transparency relates to the hole2 photo. Maybe we just need to find another photo on which to overlay it.

I also want to suggest that the producers of the experience may have commissioned the randomshirts guys to make those "Save Joop" t-shirts. Other similar viral games have used cafepress to make "in game" t-shirts, and I don't think they would have mentioned the Joop site on national television if it was not connected.

5/25/2006 09:36:00 PM  
Blogger ImAroundTheFur said...

i think everyone can stop worrying about the validity of the interview. go check out the new post at http://www.insidetheexperience.com

it seems as though lindelof is going about this whole thing as a scam on the hanso foundations part. i assume we are supposed to disregard anything we heard in the interview.

5/25/2006 09:53:00 PM  
Blogger patchwork3930 said...

Thanks so much for the links to the Jimmy Kimmel show interview from a Lost Aussie.

5/26/2006 01:27:00 AM  
Blogger T-emmer23 said...

that's a smart spin if they're saying Hanso hired an actor play Hugh... makes the cheesiness seem, although unintentional, not damaging to the ARG.

5/26/2006 12:31:00 PM  
Blogger Gamachan said...

I looked up the domain for www.thehansofoundation.org and its registered to some company in copenhagen or wahtever. but if you do a whois on the name server it is linked to a company in culvercity california, which is right next to hollywood.

Now if you Traceroute the IP of the ip you can see that the traffic does not leave the united states of america. Now if you had a coporation in copenhagen, dont you think you would want your website localized? Its obviously bullcrap that they are saying they are not involved with lost at all.

5/26/2006 05:38:00 PM  
Blogger T-emmer23 said...

Well, yeah, that's kind of a given. We all know Hanso isn't really a foundation in Denmark... That's the ARG. You do know that, right?

Are there poeple out there who think this is real? Just curious...

5/26/2006 10:30:00 PM  
Blogger thesmall001 said...

Has anyone stopped to think that mabey this was all a fake interview set up by an angry fan or mabey just a really really big red harring trying to ruin this, i'm personally going to ignore this interview as nothing we don't know already was said if it gave us a major clue then i'd think that it was important.

Reasons i think its fake;

. different actor
. he seemed to know only what one of us would know.
. he kept forgetting thing such as the name of the WWDPP.

Reason that lead me to think this may be real;

. im sure talk show in the us work the same as here in the uk they dont let just anyone on. (although it's easily faked)

also what if there was a screw up and that jimmy guy just wasn't properly informed about the 2 realities been the same and that this wasn't a real organization . . . well that certainly got a lot off my chest.

5/27/2006 07:23:00 AM  
Blogger TranquilityBliss said...

My only comment as an actress on the interview is that my observation of the two "scientists" in white lab coats in the background - they seem to be going through the same motions over and over - their actions do not change significantly over their repeated entrances and exits. Part of making it intentionally cheezy looking? Or making it look intentionally thrown together?

5/27/2006 08:10:00 PM  
Blogger 01_f4i said...

has anyone else noticed that the female scientist suddenly appears after the second burst of static during the interview?

5/28/2006 11:44:00 PM  
Blogger Joe said...

her head was down in the microscope on the table in the background.

5/29/2006 12:07:00 AM  
Blogger TheBookPolice said...

Has anyone stopped to think that mabey this was all a fake interview set up by an angry fan or mabey just a really really big red harring trying to ruin this

Come on. If this was a scam, do you know how fast ABC would be on top of it?

The Speaker talks about it as being in game. Read his post on it.

5/31/2006 10:28:00 AM  
Blogger islandobsession said...

Theronin - Total aside, but Burkittsville MD is a real place, I live 10 minutes away. It's rumored to have a haunted hill where your car moves against the force of gravity if you stop and put it in neutral - the theory being that the 'ghosts' push it back up the hill (actually a clever little optical illusion). There is no witch though, and no lost kids.

5/31/2006 10:20:00 PM  
Blogger lostfanboy said...

Ok, now here is what we should do. Now that we know that The Hanso Foundation is supposed to be real. We should act like its real. We should go around with clipboards and ask people to sign thier name on the save joop petition. If the person says yes tell them their name will be on the save joop website. But you don't have to tell them that it's not real. I just think that would be a good way to get more signatures.

5/31/2006 11:56:00 PM  
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6/01/2006 12:07:00 AM  
Blogger ted2of25 said...

Okay, i retract my previous post. When i first watches the interview i assumed it was fake but then i learned that it was all part of the game. :)

6/01/2006 01:28:00 AM  
Blogger R2K said...

: ) I love this blog....

6/05/2006 09:14:00 PM  
Blogger had5683 said...

I think Persephone is Walt. Hugh said the hacker could be a 10 year old...Before the crash, Walt was 9...

6/08/2006 09:36:00 AM  
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