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Clue #43 - Gary Troup Info (7) USA Today Ad from Hyperion

Thanks to Cindy, we found out that there's a half-page ad in today's USA Today about 'Bad Twin':

"The book the Hanso Foundation doesn't want you to read".

Dear Loyal Readers,

Since we were founded in 1991, Hyperion has published thousands of titles from hundreds of respected authors. Hyperion stands behind each and every one of these books with pride. We do not take accusations of libel lightly and certainly not when they mask an attempt to censor one of our authors.

The Hanso Foundation has lashed out at Gary Troup's book "Bad Twin." Before publication, this meticulously researched book was carefully vetted by our legal and research departments. All of Mr. Troup's claims about the Hanso Foundation have been verified as true.

Having failed to stop publication in the courts, the Hanso Foundation is now waging a PR campaign in your newspapers, offering no evidence to back up their wild claims of inaccuracy. If you want the truth, unfettered by Hanso Foundation propaganda, we encourage you to read "Bad Twin." The truth is in there in black and white.

Thank you and good reading,
Robert S. Miller
Hyperion Books

(Below the sig block there is just the Hyperion Books logo.)

149 Comments:

Blogger Joe said...

Ok, i have yet to get my paper this morning. But, think of the cost these guys are going to to make all this ARG possible? It's great!

5/25/2006 09:41:00 AM  
Blogger LJ said...

Why don't they publish ads in British or Australian places too? Or anyone else for that matter. *sigh*

5/25/2006 09:47:00 AM  
Blogger hypes blog said...

"The truth is in there in black and white."

maybe a hint for the crazy picture of the man?!

5/25/2006 09:50:00 AM  
Blogger Trey said...

Has anyone googled Widmore yet?? if you haven't, you should...and see what all you can find...some pretty awesome stuff...

5/25/2006 09:54:00 AM  
Blogger Kirsten said...

Hypes- I was thinking the same thing. Although, I haven't even seen "Bad Twin" in person, so there may be something in the book itself nobody has noticed yet?

5/25/2006 10:00:00 AM  
Blogger chaseblogger@hotmail.com said...

I was just in a Walmart store this weekend picking up some baby formula, and they had "Bad Twin." I didn't buy one yet however.

5/25/2006 10:27:00 AM  
Blogger JD said...

I bought it 2 days ago. Havn't read much yet. I'll probably finish it this weekend. I wonder if the pic is an overlay for something in the book. I'll flip through it tonight and see if anything jumps out.

With all the hype and tie in the book must have something to do with the game.

5/25/2006 10:41:00 AM  
Blogger Scoop said...

Concerning googling Widmore... this is VERY interesting:

http://www.widmoregroup.com/corporate.htm

Locke's Dad (or whatever) is on the board.

5/25/2006 11:01:00 AM  
Blogger dharmatel said...

is the widmore site ingame?

5/25/2006 11:06:00 AM  
Blogger projoe1979 said...

no it is not. why would they use a screen cap from the show as the picture for a board member? That's the kind of stuff that should jump out to help you realize what's "in-game" and what's not. If it looks cheesey it's fake.

5/25/2006 11:10:00 AM  
Blogger jason said...

http://www.widmoregroup.com/privacy.htm

Disclaimer: WidmoreGroup.com is not affiliated with ABC / Touchstone Television© or Walt Disney Internet Group©.

5/25/2006 11:10:00 AM  
Blogger Deannacat said...

I've read it. Read it in about 7 hours. It's not that long. As a stand alone book, the story is just OK as the end is a bit lame. The thing that makes it interesting is that it's about the Widmores. Hanso and Mittlewerk are mentioned a couple of times, but nothing really significant. This blog has pretty much everything Hanso related from the book. I got it at Borders for 30% off, thank God! It wasn't worth the $21.95 regular price. Wasn't even really worth I ended up paying for it. =o/

SPOILER!!!!

I've thought since the beginning that Karen DeGroot may be Persephone and I'm still totally open to that, but after last night maybe Pen Widmore is our gal? She's obviously using her resources to find Desmond and has her own station(s) set up. "Pen" is usually a short for Penelope, but it could be a nick for Persephone. On the other hand, would she use her real name or a name similar to her own? Who knows? I'm just doing a bit of random theorizing.

5/25/2006 11:11:00 AM  
Blogger Joe D said...

Deannacat: I was thinking that exact same thing. Guess only time will tell though.

5/25/2006 11:42:00 AM  
Blogger Rockymt4vr said...

Project Sparta login at The Widmore Group.

Anybody know the login/pw?

5/25/2006 11:48:00 AM  
Blogger Rockymt4vr said...

From Widmore Group News:

2006.05.25 - The Widmore Group regrets to announce that Hugh McIntyre will no longer be serving on the Widmore Group Board of Directors effective immediately.

5/25/2006 11:52:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

I agree with ProJoe, why use a screen cap when they obviously had access to the actor playing Locke's dad. Does anyone remember what construction company Michael worked for, could it Widmore Construction? Seems these 2 companies are intertwined some how. What language were the guys in the snow hatch speaking? And one last thing, the hatch door that fell on the beach was pulled inward toward the magnet from the ceiling of the 'snowglobe' they are in..

Peace & Namaste

5/25/2006 11:54:00 AM  
Blogger dharmatel said...

the language of the two guys was Portuguese.

5/25/2006 11:55:00 AM  
Blogger Rockymt4vr said...

I called Widmore's number and got Eureka direcotry assistance and they said they could only find the number if I gave them my phone number...

5/25/2006 11:57:00 AM  
Blogger Rockymt4vr said...

The key probably revered polarity and flung the door away.

5/25/2006 11:59:00 AM  
Blogger lostluvr29 said...

**POSSIBLE SPOILER**

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I agree with deancat too, on his theory about penelope. What I was wondering though, is how did Penelope KNOW to look for "magnetic anomalies" to help her find Desmond? She must know more about the Island or the Hanso projects being done there. W

5/25/2006 12:06:00 PM  
Blogger Beachybroad said...

I also wonder who Penelope Widmore was engaged to. When Mr. Widmore was trying to bribe Desmoond he said that she was engaged. I have a sneaking suspicion that she may have been intertwined with one of our losties!!

5/25/2006 12:14:00 PM  
Blogger Rockymt4vr said...

Probably Hugh or Peter.

5/25/2006 12:25:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Could they be using the island to perform all of the experiments at one time? They all can be overlaping...

5/25/2006 12:25:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

I was re-reading Hugh's bio, found this to be interesting, 'accuracy and transparency above all', why be transparent? A faceless man?

hmmm...

5/25/2006 12:27:00 PM  
Blogger Joe said...

He said the same thing in the interview. he said "to be as clear and transparent as possible." Hmmm?

5/25/2006 12:42:00 PM  
Blogger SJ said...

Did you guys see Jack in the background when Desmond and his girlfriend met at the track? Jack got out of his car and started running up and down the bleachers in the background.

5/25/2006 12:46:00 PM  
Blogger Lost Fanatic Stu said...

has anyone got a copy of the series finale? because i cant download it anywhere! the usual places arent working and im DESPERATE to see it!

5/25/2006 12:46:00 PM  
Blogger Joe said...

Just watch it on ABC.com It's up now. and I think in Hi-Def.

5/25/2006 12:51:00 PM  
Blogger Karl said...

sj: yes, because that moment was set just before the stuff we saw at the start of the season when Desmond met Jack while he was jogging in the stadium.

And a note to everyone else, the widmore site is a fansite, dont waste your time looking into it any deeper. If we were meant to find it we wold have been given the url by an ingame site.

5/25/2006 12:55:00 PM  
Blogger Lost Fanatic Stu said...

eh, i can only watch it on abc if i am in the US, im in scotland, whats this hi-def thing u mentioned?

5/25/2006 01:01:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

I am very curious to see how they reach out to us now that the show has ended...they better make it good...

5/25/2006 01:04:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

You ppl have to remember that this site is dedicated to the game, where ppl from all over the world can come and trade ideas and information regarding THE GAME. The people in the UK are still very far behind us in the series and it is possible that a lot of them just want to come here to play the game without getting any information about the episodes they haven't seen yet. I'm sure they appreciate your putting spoiler notices at the beginning of your posts, however some of you are just using this as a place to discuss last nights episode and this is not that place.

Sorry if I seem like a jerk... :/ it's not my intention.

5/25/2006 01:05:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

thrasher: good point... their main medium for releasing information for the non-obsessed fan was through the commercials during the show... now that there is no show, how are they going to release clues to the masses...

5/25/2006 01:07:00 PM  
Blogger Teeps2k said...

I read the book. This is all a campaign to get us all to buy a relatively pedestrian crime novel.

5/25/2006 01:13:00 PM  
Blogger i_satchell said...

forgive me if i missed this in any of the earlier posts. what is the deal with the mental health project and the "inquire today!" link underneath the article about the VIK Institute?

5/25/2006 01:33:00 PM  
Blogger dharmatel said...

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5/25/2006 01:42:00 PM  
Blogger dharmatel said...

oh it's on you tube...

5/25/2006 01:47:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

I think that they will continue to go a little mainstream with clues...perhaps a 60 minutes special on Hanso Foundation or corporate corruption...they did state that it would encompass all mediums of communication...perhaps they will call us at our homes since they have our information they aquired from our own government wire taps...lol

Peace & Namaste

5/25/2006 02:17:00 PM  
Blogger lostgrrl said...

The thing that makes it interesting is that it's about the Widmores.

It seems that the TPTB are concentrating on the Widmore Company to coincide with last night's show.

now that there is no show, how are they going to release clues to the masses...

During the repeats? Perhaps they figure that people who may watch intermittently will have had their interest peaked by the finale. They know that those of us obsessed with the game will find out the clues online. Just a guess...I was wondering the same thing.

5/25/2006 02:18:00 PM  
Blogger lostgrrl said...

The thing that makes it interesting is that it's about the Widmores.

It seems that the TPTB are concentrating on the Widmore Company to coincide with last night's show.

now that there is no show, how are they going to release clues to the masses...

During the repeats? Perhaps they figure that people who may watch intermittently will have had their interest peaked by the finale. They know that those of us obsessed with the game will find out the clues online. Just a guess...I was wondering the same thing.

5/25/2006 02:19:00 PM  
Blogger Dharma Leader said...

it says that the truth is in black and white. black and white also has to do a lot with this show. like with the backgammon thing and stuff. funny how they mentioned it in there

5/25/2006 02:21:00 PM  
Blogger JRod09 said...

Hey again,
has anyone else noticed the link IN the inguire today link, after you click inguire today and get into the message box and go under the "ourself" there is a hidden button, so far i've found it useless and sory if this is a repeat i didnt notice it

5/25/2006 02:23:00 PM  
Blogger LostGusten said...

any one know where you can get thhis book free ?? would be fun to read it!

5/25/2006 02:26:00 PM  
Blogger Dharma Leader said...

Deannacat...... you said that pen widmore could be trying to find desmond or something. but what if she is trying to find Dharma? i mean widmore, doesnt that last name have something to do with the hanso foundation or something? or close to that. maybe she is trying to find dharma! she knows they have a electromagnetic station so she looks for an anomoly, and then she finds it. like i dont think that she is trying to find desmond but trying to find Dharma. and didnt the others say once you leave this place you wont be able to find it again? well that could be true with this. she left the island and cannot find it again so she is looking for the electromagetism from the island. this is all very brain hurting. but cant wait till next season!

5/25/2006 02:27:00 PM  
Blogger Dharma Leader said...

has anyone tried the e-mail from hansocareers.com?

5/25/2006 02:34:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

It almost seemed like turning the key was like a re-set button for those close to the hatch...Charlie seemed very confused when Claire asked about Locke and Eko, but it could be being blown into a wall by TNT as well...I am still interested in the 'other' hatch door that slammed to the ground, could it have come from the top of the dome they are inside? Think: Truman Show...which would disappoint me...but it is plausable, how else could these experiments go on without public scrutiny...very interesting stuff to go through, too much for my pea brain right now...

Peace & Namaste

5/25/2006 02:40:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Kelvin said that they key was the only way out and made it all go away...since the dooms day computer is broken how will they push the button? Do they even need to anymore?

I also think that 'Henry Gale' is one of the Widmore's and is there to oversee the experiment continues, did you notice he did not seem affected by the lights and sounds when the device was going nuts?

It is going to be a fun summer, I cannot wait until the new season. Perhaps the DVD of season 2 will exclusive content that will be helpful to the game.

Peace & Namaste

5/25/2006 02:44:00 PM  
Blogger ORA-29306 said...

thrasher : that was the door from the swan hatch. (it was on top of the hatch before the electromagnetic "explosion")

about the "Inquire today" on the MHA section I've never seen it before and it seems to timeout (maybe its something for the future)

5/25/2006 02:47:00 PM  
Blogger JucaJoe said...

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whats up with this.... ??? blurry

http://www.oceanicairlines.com/

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5/25/2006 02:51:00 PM  
Blogger ORA-29306 said...

Ive noticed that youget a pointer change if you roll your mouse over the hanso quote in the top left on the MHA page.

it opens the inquire today window. ive put in all the words that cause a change in the pointer but nothing is working

roll your mouse over

brightest lights shine ...
??

5/25/2006 02:54:00 PM  
Blogger undyinggodagain said...

hugh mcintyre and alvar hanso have suffered the same fate I believe. they both have names either currently or turning pink and the lines behind thier respective links on the hanso site. they're probably dead.

5/25/2006 03:06:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Ora,

The hatch door was made of metal and everything metal was being pulled toward the center of the hatch, unless it was blown into the air from the TNT, but it would not have travel that far, I think it is a mystery yet to be solved or it has no relavence...no worries.

Peace & Namaste

5/25/2006 03:11:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Ora, that has been there for some time now. Now use yet for it though. I would like to be able to sign into the VIK institute I think I need to be admitted!! I wonder what the name of the clinic was that Hugo and Libby were in...

5/25/2006 03:15:00 PM  
Blogger VeryLost said...

Someone here at work just said they saw a potential clue in the credits last night. He said that the very fist “name” that was flashed on the screen when they do the opening credits was a LONG string of characters, blurred, then vanished almost instantly. His catch was corroborated by another guy in the office…he saw it too, but neither DVR’d it. I did, but I’m not home to check it.

Anyone talking on this? Anyone catch it?

5/25/2006 03:17:00 PM  
Blogger hey ward said...

i'm not sure if this has been mentioned but on the mission statement page there are acronyms for each prject, immediately followed by the long-hand name. All are included except for the mha project, any ideas?

5/25/2006 03:19:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Good catch Hey Ward, it lists a different project, Educational Outreach Imperative....interesting indeed. But we are grabbing at nothing right now, there are so many people workingon this that if they want us to know something or point us to something it is pretty obvious...

Peace & Namaste

5/25/2006 03:30:00 PM  
Blogger Deannacat said...

Verylost: I just watched the beginning of the ep on ABC's site and the the first thing is Mr. Eko's name. It's a long one, no doubt. Could that have been it? Check your DVR and let us know what you see.

5/25/2006 03:34:00 PM  
Blogger VeryLost said...

LMAO..yep. Just confirmed it as well...I work with idiots.

sorry.

5/25/2006 03:38:00 PM  
Blogger VeryLost said...

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5/25/2006 03:38:00 PM  
Blogger Ross said...

Anyone figure out how to access the windmore group website? I think this is in fact part of the game.

5/25/2006 03:47:00 PM  
Blogger Deannacat said...

Dharmaleader:

SPOLIERS!!!!


Maybe she is just trying to find the island itself, who knows at this point. BUT she did have the picture of her and Des on her bedside table so obviously she still cares and she may know that he ended up there. Entombed by her evil father perhaps? She is a Widmore and may be privvy to project information. In BAD TWIN the Hanso Foundation has offices in the Widmore Industries building and the companies are closely linked. I think she knows he's there, but doesn't know where "there" is exactly (Henry Gale told us that even God couldn't see that island) and has been trying to locate him and has set up her own project (the guys in the snow)to that end.

5/25/2006 03:47:00 PM  
Blogger Deannacat said...

Verylost: LOL! I can sympathize. I see Lost Experience clues in everything these days!

5/25/2006 03:49:00 PM  
Blogger Ross said...

I don't want to start another big argument but can we stop saying "spoiler" for our personal theories. The only time this phrase should be used is when you know for a fact that something will appear on the show, ie, if you went to imdb.com weeks ago and looked up "Lost", you would have seen a list of characters who would be appearing in last night's season finale. Desmond was one of them, so was Penny Windmore.

5/25/2006 03:54:00 PM  
Blogger ORA-29306 said...

Ross,

Based on the code and web host (yahoo hosting) I am venturing to guess that it is not in fact a part of the game. also, all the game related sites have something related to disney's privacy policy in them

5/25/2006 03:54:00 PM  
Blogger Ross said...

What part of "I don't want to start another big argument" made you want to argue?

Please don't respond to this, everyone just move on.

5/25/2006 04:03:00 PM  
Blogger cidervisor said...

Has anyone noticed that if you tab through the links on the Hanso website (any page) there is a clickable link in the bottom left hand corner? Click it and the green lights behind the main page rotate. Does'nt seem to do anything else.....yet

5/25/2006 04:18:00 PM  
Blogger Deannacat said...

Ross: I do that because while I, and others, want to discuss things we already know about the show, there are people in other countries that are behind us in the series and don't want to know what's coming up for them. It's a courtesy to them to put a spoiler warning when you're going to discuss recent events in the series.

5/25/2006 04:33:00 PM  
Blogger patchwork3930 said...

Deannacat, thank you very much for posting a spoiler warning. I for one really appreciate it :)

5/25/2006 04:36:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Deannacat - While I agree with you not wanting to ruin someone's fun, wouldn't their fun be ruined just be reading the main page of this site? Theorizing on things from the main page does not need to be listed as a spoiler when most people read the main page first. I am not trying to start an arguement just wondering why we are wasting our energy on this topic.

Peace & Namaste

5/25/2006 04:38:00 PM  
Blogger Deannacat said...

Patch: You're welcome.

Thrasher: Some folks from Britain asked that we do this for them two weeks ago. You can play the game pretty well even if you're behind on the show and reading the main page isn't going to spoil the show, just the game.

5/25/2006 04:45:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Deannacat, Sorry I was unaware that our friends across the pond actually asked us to do this for them. Not a big deal to me. There is not a lot going on at the moment so I thought I would chime in on the subject. I wish we had some clue to work on other than the faceless man.

5/25/2006 04:51:00 PM  
Blogger sarahc99 said...

has anyone seen that there has been another file added onto http://www.fastboot.com/hanso/?M=A, its called bod.swf, morse code perhaps? anyone good at cracking this?

5/25/2006 04:52:00 PM  
Blogger Deannacat said...

That's OK. I was just lucky enough to be in on that conversation while it was happening and am trying to do my best to abide by their wishes.
Yeah, there's not much going on now. I was irritated yesterday when the clues were coming on and it was almost time for the recap show to start. I'd seen Revelations or whatever it's called before, but thought what the heck! Don't know when I'll get any Lost anytime soon, so I'd better take advantage!

5/25/2006 04:56:00 PM  
Blogger Deannacat said...

Huh. If you click it it goes into the Inmate Asylum clue. I didn't notice such an annoying noise the first time through...

5/25/2006 04:59:00 PM  
Blogger JD said...

Where did the fastboot site come from?

5/25/2006 05:15:00 PM  
Blogger DK said...

Fastboot.com... What is that exactly. This is very interesting.. I have never seen this before.. But it is lacking some folders and files. I dont think is the sames exact file that thf.org is using.

5/25/2006 05:16:00 PM  
Blogger DK said...

No it appears to be someone's domain that they have deompiled the flash and put it here. This is not directly related to THF.org. Seems to be someone just trying to throw people off. For one it is lacking the htnl or php files. Lacking the xml etc etc. Nice try though.. Had me stumped for about 15 seconds.

5/25/2006 05:20:00 PM  
Blogger JD said...

That's what I thought. I have seen a few people talking about decompiling the flash. Just out of curiosity... How do you even get the flash? I can seem to figure out how to down load the .fla files...

Peace & Man Eats!!!

5/25/2006 05:23:00 PM  
Blogger TheFooFish said...

Don't buy Bad Twin! Hyperion is just exploiting the Hanso Foundation for their desperate marketing scheme- don't fall for it.

Also, everyone remember to check out DJ Dan's podcast. There will probably be a new one up tomorrow. It should be fun to hear what kind of outrageous lies he'll try spreading this time.

http://defendinghanso.org

5/25/2006 05:24:00 PM  
Blogger cprout said...

Hey,
Here is my new idea as to what is currently going on.
First the main part of my theory comes from the website.
One of the offical websites has a picture of the islan and a big long beam of light going stright up, it looks like its coming from the area of the island the hatch is at.
What if this is a signal to the hanso foundation/dharma guys to show up on the island and or where it is.
This would take a lot of power that can be generated by magets, like the new non battery powered flash lights. And what if the button under that hatch was a emergancy shut off? This would explain why the white light and noise happend being that how ever it shut down the signal maybe it blew it up mid way through firing? Also would explain why not pushing the button brought a crate full of food and supplies to the island.
It also connects to the fact that Pen from the Widdmore group just discovered them again after a event in the hatch. It may also mean were going to see more of "Islanders" versus the hanso foundation. Maybe the "Others" are actually old hanso/ dharma people who REBELLED OR at least saw the evil of there ways and are now fighting or hiding from Hanso foundation.
It would explian why they call themselves the "Good Ones". They could be turning the next season into the islanders versus the hanso foundation and is the reason why there doing all this stuff about the foundation.

5/25/2006 05:25:00 PM  
Blogger Karl said...

Thats a good idea cprout, but it has no place here. This blog is about the lost experience, not the current plot of the show itself.

5/25/2006 05:28:00 PM  
Blogger JD said...

Speaking of the Others calling them selves the good ones... It seemed strange that they used this phrase and when we log into the news letter we have to respond in the affirmitive to the question "Are you one of the good ones?" before Persephone talks to us... Wonder if we have been totally wrong about either the others or Persephone...??? Hmmmm..... It at least makes you think that they are one the same side.

5/25/2006 05:29:00 PM  
Blogger cprout said...

Thats what I am getting at...I think the lost experiance is creating more back story for the show. Like adding added depth, that way the real fans who are dying for new stuff can enjoy it, but also the just tv watchers will enjoy.
I think stuff we find out this summer will be shown during the show next season but will not be needed to enjoy or understand the next season.

5/25/2006 05:31:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

I don't mean to but in here but something has been going through my mind.
I still haven't found a reason for the picture of what seems to be the guy in the video that was found in the hatch talking of why the button needed to be pressed.

This picture can be found at http://hole2.the hansofoundation.org

Going through all the clues, I came across a video (got from the same place as the video advertising the jeep which linked from hugh mcintyres inbox), that many of you will have seen no doubt, which is the video played in the hatch. The difference is that it is extended in that much of the first half of the film is not seen by the characters in Lost. I am sure I have seen all episodes and have never seen the beginning of this. There are other videos of the Dharma initiative to be found there that I haven't seen either.
In the video from the hatch, at a point before the "Lost people" got to see, Alvar Hanso is spoken about and then a picture of him comes up. It is the picture used in the Bios page and home page of thehansofoundation.org.
This is a clear link between "The Lost Experience" and the series Lost (Unless of course the video was manipulated but it seems fine to me)
It seems to me that the video came out before the Hanso website did so I would have put that question to Hugh on the show. I doubt he could have got out of that one.

More to the point though it seems to me that seeing as though this was such a difficult clue to decipher (hole and 2) the picture must have some significance somwhere along the line.

I mention it here really because this is the only place I follow and I'm sorry if this post is out of place. It's just that I do a fair amount of searching on bloggs etc. and I don't see much of a mention of this.

5/25/2006 05:43:00 PM  
Blogger TheFooFish said...

I'm not sure I know what video you're talking about. Link?

5/25/2006 05:57:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

This is the link to the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vokIafSZQM&search=Dharma

Also worth noting is that there are polar bears in the video.

5/25/2006 06:08:00 PM  
Blogger TheFooFish said...

That was fan-edited I think.

5/25/2006 06:21:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

I'm thinking that there are too many scenes that involve him and him speaking that I haven't seen before. Where did they come from? Surely thats too much to edit. Entire sequences without the actors?

5/25/2006 06:24:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

I agree with Carl.

cprout and deannacat: you're ruining this site, plain and simple. What you are doing will lead to moderating... and you're only doing it for the sole purpose of ruining it for everyone else. IT DOESN'T BELONG HERE.

Maybe you just don't know how to find another site... Here... I'll make it as easy as possible for you...

http://www.thefuselage.com

What I've typed above is a what's called a URL. It points to a website like the one you are currently on, only the one shown above is a site where you can discuss all the spoilers you want with people who have the same attitude as you. Simply click and hold down your left mouse button at the beggining (where it says http) and slide your mouse towards the right until the entire line is highlighted (black with white text)... are you still with me? Now right click and click on copy. Okay?... Okay.. now hold the Window Key (between Ctrl and Alt on the left hand side of your keyboard) and press R. This will open what is called the Run Dialog Box. Now, hold the Shift key and press Insert. Now press Enter. You will be taken to the site.

5/25/2006 06:27:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

foofish: is defendinghanso.org your site?

5/25/2006 06:36:00 PM  
Blogger chaseblogger@hotmail.com said...

belly,

Word. Those two need to take that stuff elsewhere.

5/25/2006 06:52:00 PM  
Blogger Deannacat said...

BellyofDesire: What a condescending jerk you are. How would THAT lead to moderating? That's just silly. Moderating will likely come from people being down right mean and telling others that they are ruining the site and should leave. If you would have read above, I put a spoiler warning in the original post then later explained WHY it was there. Folks who are behind the US in the series asked us to perform that courtesy for them. But you might not know what courtesy means judging from your tirade. Obviously, those who think that the show and the game don't tie in together didn't quite get the clue about a mouse not relying on just one hole. That's straight off the blast door map, sugar. A second season, fairly recent show if you remember. Therefore, speculating about the show and current events in it are entirely appropriate, particularly when spoiler warnings are given. Cprout was correct. Most likely we'll see very strong tie in's between the game and the show in season 3. If not, then all of this is a excersise in futility.

5/25/2006 06:54:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

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5/25/2006 06:57:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

People I emplore you to calm down. This is meant to be fun, it is not real life. It is entertainment and free speech is still allowed in this country, at the moment. Take your pissing match outside. Let's work together to figure things out, a spoiler alert is fine by me, actually it is only a true spoiler if it is fact and not opinion. How much do we learn before a show airs? Tons! And we enjoy it, why else would be still be here doing this.

Peace & Namaste!

going home now! bye fight nice!

5/25/2006 07:01:00 PM  
Blogger TheFooFish said...

belly0fdesire: No, defendinghanso.org isn't my site, it's just a site I agree strongly with and think more people should see. As I've said before, I think most of us have been rooting for the wrong team so far.

5/25/2006 07:01:00 PM  
Blogger mykull said...

Possible spoiler
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BAD TWIN has the entire Widmore clan in it as far as I can tell and there is no mention of a Penelope Widmore, which seems rather odd. To those who have read the book: Any guesses as to where she fits in the family tree?

5/25/2006 07:14:00 PM  
Blogger TheFooFish said...

mykull: maybe she is just a character made up by the Lost writers and doesn't have a "real life" counterpart.

5/25/2006 07:19:00 PM  
Blogger Deannacat said...

Thrasher: You're right, it IS supposed to be fun! And it has been up until today. However, when someone directs people to other sites in a step by step manner as if speaking to a 5 year old, that's condescending and I don't take well to it. You can't blame someone for being defensive when they are being talked down to and told to go away. Would you have taken that post well if it had been directed straight at you?
Also, Belly insists that "everyone" feels the way he or she does. Obviously not the case. I've been on this blog literally from day one (that's how I know the Brits and Aussies prefer alerts) and there has been a lot of speculation, some of it very good and helpful. It's the LOST Experience, afterall. If it doesn't tie in eventually, (and in fact it already HAS) it's pretty darn pointless. I really don't get why people are enraged to the point of censorship about it. Big deal, don't read 'em.

5/25/2006 07:31:00 PM  
Blogger Deannacat said...

Bad twin spoiler:






Mykull: Don't know. Arthur appears to be the patriarch in the book, but maybe he has a brother, Charles. Pen would then be Arthur's niece and Cliff and Zander's cousin. It's possible Charles could be running a part of the company while Arther's bunch runs another? Or Charles has stepped up, possibly by force, to fill Cliff's shoes in hopes Zander never get's his act together. Arthur is probably not in the best shape to take it back over, afterall.

5/25/2006 07:40:00 PM  
Blogger Rockymt4vr said...

Boy, you guys sure get your noses tweaked easily.

Anyways...

I sure am enjoying all this. Was just thinking how far ahead the writers had to think when planning all this. Desmond's remark to John, "See you in another life, brother" really floored me.

Not sure if the producers/etc., planned this whole Hanso website thing from the start, but if they did, hats off to 'em.

5/25/2006 07:50:00 PM  
Blogger chango_man said...

Off topic, when you click on obey in the clock area of the Hanso site, there are changes to the Srite ad.

5/25/2006 08:01:00 PM  
Blogger TEAM Lena said...

Geess!! Cant the arguing just STOP!

I cant speak for anyone else here, but I , myself dont care how or what anyone post as long as its NOT ARGUING! THAT is way more anoying than anything...

PEACE...not just a word!

5/25/2006 08:19:00 PM  
Blogger dharmatel said...

Is anyone else on the sublymonal.com site?
Have you seen the youtube video "Sumo"? Does W-h-e-n t-h-i-n-g-s s-l-o-w d-o-w-n y-o-u s-e-e m-o-r-e mean anything?
I'd be really mad if this was just a new Sprite ad.

5/25/2006 08:33:00 PM  
Blogger Jassen said...

I am on the site now and have slowed the advert down and there seems to be a hidden word at around 15 seconds. It has Code: ?? and this is blurred out. Anyone ??

5/25/2006 08:38:00 PM  
Blogger dharmatel said...

So far I got as codes these words: embed
listen
gulp
spray
belly
tongue
desfib
chill

But there's still one I cannot read...

5/25/2006 08:40:00 PM  
Blogger Acts4Food said...

Whats with all the new stuff on sublymonal... wierd things abrewin'

We should make a list of the passwords:

scan
listen
whatthe?
bentley
chill


just a few so far...

5/25/2006 08:40:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

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5/25/2006 08:43:00 PM  
Blogger Acts4Food said...

thats some wierd stuff.... especially the whatthe? stuff....

5/25/2006 08:43:00 PM  
Blogger Jassen said...

Here's my list so far :

embed
scan
tongue
gulp
chill
listen
defib
spray
belly
bentley
pulse
and I can't see what is at the end of "whatthe"

Where are those techies who can strip the swf files?

5/25/2006 08:53:00 PM  
Blogger Acts4Food said...

its a question mark on whatthe... so its whatthe?

5/25/2006 09:04:00 PM  
Blogger dharmatel said...

It's whatthe, exactly as written, and it takes you to a movie theater where there are two lemons (yes, yes, the fruit) watching some X-rated movies!! Oh Sprite people better have some prize for us after having to watch this...

5/25/2006 09:06:00 PM  
Blogger Acts4Food said...

Seriously I just watched all of this stuff and I didnt notice anything.... well except for all the wierd stuff...

5/25/2006 09:12:00 PM  
Blogger Acts4Food said...

ok type in persephone

5/25/2006 09:14:00 PM  
Blogger Acts4Food said...

now thats some cool stuff... someone want to help record each of the bits?

5/25/2006 09:18:00 PM  
Blogger dharmatel said...

but I cannot listen to the whole thing, does it say anything interesting for the game? Or is it just Persephone's mythology?

5/25/2006 09:23:00 PM  
Blogger Acts4Food said...

it stops talking after the first bit but you can read the other ones by moving around... I just dont know how to get all the ones in the back... and I think its interesting that it ends at her father was.... hmmm....

5/25/2006 09:29:00 PM  
Blogger TEAM Lena said...

Here...I got the person who posted the videos on youtube!

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Lymonatrix

5/25/2006 09:29:00 PM  
Blogger dharmatel said...

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
There are plane tails with Oceanic Airlines colors and read 108. Type "108" as code and you get... DJ Dan's podcast!!

5/25/2006 09:30:00 PM  
Blogger MrDrew78 said...

Dont type gulp...Im gonna have some crazy nightmares now.

5/25/2006 09:30:00 PM  
Blogger Acts4Food said...

this kicks so much ass dharmatel.... once again... whee!!!

5/25/2006 09:34:00 PM  
Blogger dharmatel said...

Remember: first persephone and then 108.

5/25/2006 09:36:00 PM  
Blogger Acts4Food said...

this is so cool... widmore!!!

5/25/2006 09:38:00 PM  
Blogger Acts4Food said...

Electromagnets.... knock down the moon???? Thats crazy...

5/25/2006 09:39:00 PM  
Blogger Izzyjman said...

Help with the fourth clue, iwent to the "newsletter(sign up)" section, typed in "breaking strain" and "Breaking Straing" and all i got was the fuzzy screen, please help if you have advice

5/25/2006 09:40:00 PM  
Blogger Acts4Food said...

Hey what was djdans site again?

5/25/2006 09:51:00 PM  
Blogger Izzyjman said...

Please help I am desperate

5/25/2006 09:53:00 PM  
Blogger Izzyjman said...

I mean clue number 5

5/25/2006 09:54:00 PM  
Blogger Acts4Food said...

izzy... just follow the steps dude... its all written down there for you... type in a name... then breaking strain...

5/25/2006 09:54:00 PM  
Blogger dharmatel said...

Ok, these are my notes:

- We are all owned by the huge corporations.
- Students are building electromagnetic super weapons.
- Widmore Corporation building is after those students.
- Senators are pissed off after yesterday's interview.
- Students are preparing weapons to knock out any space foreign body, like the moon.

Hmmmm

5/25/2006 09:58:00 PM  
Blogger Acts4Food said...

good times had by all...

5/25/2006 10:01:00 PM  
Blogger TEAM Lena said...

www.djdan.am

5/25/2006 10:22:00 PM  
Blogger TEAM Lena said...

izzyjman..what is it you need?

5/25/2006 10:23:00 PM  
Blogger Acts4Food said...

Thanks lena... got it awhile ago... check out the list of links on his page now though...

5/25/2006 10:24:00 PM  
Blogger theronin said...

This is kinda.....expected....Walt Disney Corp. (AKA the owner of ABC) has big times ties with Coca-Cola

5/25/2006 10:30:00 PM  
Blogger Acts4Food said...

well its just one of the ad sites that we're going to use... someone has to foot the bill...

5/25/2006 10:34:00 PM  
Blogger T-emmer23 said...

Thanks for that... very interesting... Good to know people are still perusing "old" clue sites for updates.

I've been "lurking" I guess for over a week now... catching up on the game, and *reading up* before I dared post my thoughts/observations... I think you are all brilliant, btw...and thanks for keeping this fun.

Been mentioned slightly (hey ward and thrasher above), and with this new DJDan clue makes a little more sense to me... I had noticed first-off that the Mission Statement page had discrepancies about the projects. Under the acronyms, the project names are missing BOTH the Mental Health Appeal and the Electromagnetic Research Initiative, and both are replaced with the "Educational Otreach Imperative" (repeated). I noticed the only other mention of this "project" on the site is on the Institute for Genomic Advancement page, under the picture, "Educational Outreach (c) experiments..." But that's a minor detail...

But that name... Educational Outreach... struck me as important, as well as the discrepancies and inconsistencies (project names, including Educational Outreach, are also inconsistent in at least 2 of the press releases from the beginning, as well as "Hugh" on Kimmel repeating they have "six" projects, etc.).

The DJDan podcast mentioned Widmore funding college research projects...

Also, that *fake* video of old Hanso Industries keeps coming to mind---are we absolutely sure that's a fake?? Just want to clarify b/c it mentions Hanso's sponsoring of college research programs. It also mentions a satellite program, and satellites have been a little theme this past week I've noticed. Someone else linked to a satellite site about the connection to "swans," etc. That mentioned that satellite scanners in the north pole could scan 14 times a day as opposed to twice a day from the equator, and --SHOW SPOILER--Pen Widmore's scanning station was in a *snowy* area...

And an electromagnetic superweapon could bring down a satellite...

Sorry this is so long and not really putting much together. Just wanted to get off my chest what's been building in my mind reading all this so far...

Thanks and...
No Mass Stay

5/25/2006 10:43:00 PM  
Blogger dharmatel said...

act4food- are the links on the "Links" page? Cause I still get the coming soon message. Could you pleaaase post the links for us?

5/25/2006 10:43:00 PM  
Blogger mykull said...

deannacat, thanks for your post re: pen's widmore connection.

cheers.

5/25/2006 11:05:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

If that old Hanso vid is fake, it sure is getting a lot of attention. And it's pretty well done. The only place I've ever seen it tho is on youtube, which leads me to believe that it's fake. All the other game related videos have been released through large commercial sites, like amazon, sprite, barnes & noble, etc....

5/25/2006 11:08:00 PM  
Blogger mikeyp228 said...

Hey jd you were asking much earlier about viewing the swf files. I found a small program calles swf cache viewer and it will immediatly show you and swf files in your IE or mozilla internet cache. From this program you can save them to a folder and view them over and over again. I also found a program called sothink swf decompiler and it works great takes the swf file loads it then you can go through and save pictures, movies, sound clips that were used to make the swf. Really great tool . just an fyi for anybody interested

5/26/2006 12:08:00 AM  
Blogger mikeyp228 said...

http://www.unhsolutions.net/downloads.html

here is a link you want to download the flash saving plugin

5/26/2006 12:12:00 AM  
Blogger theronin said...

belly....the Jeep youtube video was originally linked from "the e-mail inbox" from the inner workings of letyourcompassguideyou it's an official video...plus ya know..it gave us the mouthpiece password

5/26/2006 05:08:00 AM  
Blogger JD said...

Mikey, thanks!!! I'm not sure if it's cheating or not to decompile the flash but since the game writers are pretty good at keeping up with us it wouldn't suprise me if we had to do that at some point and it can't hurt to have all the tools at our disposal.

Thanks again!!!

5/26/2006 09:49:00 AM  
Blogger T-emmer23 said...

theronin, the video I and belly were talking about isn't the Jeep one, it's another one found on youtube... I have the link in my post in clue 44 (the one down the page). Please watch it, I really want feedback on my ideas (also posted).

5/26/2006 12:21:00 PM  
Blogger Lost Souls' Star said...

I have only read a few pages from Bad Twin, and the way the author describes the man in the suit (Widmore) when he enlists the help of the main character...makes me think of the faceless pic. Even down to the tie and the pattern on it, which is what looks like the pattern on the tie on the man in the faceless pic. Does anyone else think there is a similarity...read that part and then look at the pic. Like I said, I haven't gotten much past that encounter so I don't know what the significance of that client is yet.

5/27/2006 06:27:00 AM  
Blogger R2K said...

: )

6/05/2006 09:14:00 PM  
Blogger Qc-cutie said...

Gary Troup is obviously an acronym. Any suggestions?

6/15/2006 12:32:00 PM  
Blogger Ali said...

:)

7/27/2006 12:46:00 PM  
Blogger Ali said...

:(

7/27/2006 01:11:00 PM  

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