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Clue #44 - More Sublymonal & DJ Dan Stuff

The Sprite related site from Clue #29, sublymonal.com , has changed. It seems to be more soda marketing and less LOST but there may be some things worth finding.

To explore, use the following "passwords". The DJDan podcast is really the only thing TLE related:

Persephone general history of mythology
108 DJDan Podcast (Transcript in the Comments)
tongue lymonics language thing
spray button pushing "game"
embed screensaver download
listen & pulse Talib Kweli music ad (other sites linked)
bentley Fronzworth Bentley music ad (other sites linked)
scan shoes on ebay
whatthe? takes you to Lymonatrix movie
chill YouTube Video
defib YouTube Video
belly YouTube Video
gulp YouTube Video

*From Zeus & Kevin & Justin...

137 Comments:

Blogger DJ Lena said...

Here is the video poster that posted the videos imbedded in sublymonal.com

http://www.youtube.com/user/Lymonatrix

Here is a more detailed message about the SWAN and satellite connection (sorry if its long):

SWAN project...using the satellite

http://www.uen.org/swan/

here is the NUMBERS connection RIGHT HERE!!!



http://noaasis.noaa.gov/ARGOS/

is the satellite they use



QUOTE FROM www.uen.org/swan/:

How the Argos System Works

N.O.A.A. satellites orbit every 108 minutes or about 14 times a day. The satellite scans a 5,000 kilometer wide area as it passes. The satellite is within transmitter range for about 10 minutes. If the transmitter is sending then the satellite will receive multiple messages from the swan's transmitter.

Because of the earth's rotation a transmitter at the equator would be scanned once a day while a transmitter at the pole could be scanned 14 times a day.

When the satellite passes one of three main ground stations, it downloads the information to computers. The computers then calculate the location of the swan and send the owner of the transmitter an E-mail message.

The Shadow-A-Swan website then updates the archive for each swan, maps the longitude and latitude and calculates the distance traveled since the last reported location.

5/25/2006 10:57:00 PM  
Blogger Sean said...

There's a third YouTube video if you type in "defib". It's just another Sprite one.

5/25/2006 11:25:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

The two items on sale at ebay...

click here

Also remember that I found that there are FOUR videos at youtube...HEHEHEHE getting ahead of the game...

click here for videos

5/26/2006 03:34:00 AM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

Well originally the ultimate theory on another site (the one who posted the theory that satellites had something to do with it) said that inputting the numbers was to stop the satellite from seeing the island.

Just a theory, but thats why me and hubby checked it out so thoroughly!

5/26/2006 04:22:00 AM  
Blogger Dan said...

Somewhat off topic, but I was checking out the UK Big Brother website (channel4.com/bigbrother) and one of the sidebar ads features Joop and advertises the LEP project. This doesn't appear all the time, but it's in the ad cycle. Clicking the banner takes you to thehansofoundation.org.

Channel 4 is the station here that carries Lost, so there's the connection. Just interesting more than anything, I think.

Cheers

5/26/2006 05:10:00 AM  
Blogger Jeff Hojnacki said...

Somebody bought the SubLYMONal Kicks with Buy It Now... the other item still up is Lymon Thirst Defibrillator

5/26/2006 07:35:00 AM  
Blogger Jeff Hojnacki said...

Lymon Thirst Defibrillator

working link...

5/26/2006 07:36:00 AM  
Blogger Don't squeeze the Charmin said...

HELP! I went thru the link on DJDAN.am but the sublymonal site is a black page, nowhere to put a password, tab thru gives me nothing...

5/26/2006 08:57:00 AM  
Blogger Andrew said...

This is just a thought. My purpose is not to confuse the game with the show but.....
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Hypes and Lena are talking about the whole satalite thing. It got me to thinking that Desmond in the show side of the house, not concerning the game side, missed one of the times of inputing the numbers which would throw off the whole "satalite invisiblity shield" type thing. Just a thought. Sorry for the interrupion of show type stuff.


Let's carry on with the game.

Cheers.

5/26/2006 09:06:00 AM  
Blogger nuvs said...

The sublymonal.com website doesn't appear to have any functionality anymore -- it only shows the Sprite can, with the text "Do Not Blink. Your Mind is Being Refreshed".

No password box is available anymore.... :(

5/26/2006 09:08:00 AM  
Blogger Andrew said...

Nuvs,
It is still working for me.

5/26/2006 09:12:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Mine still works. All very interesting.

Peace & Namaste

5/26/2006 09:12:00 AM  
Blogger Don't squeeze the Charmin said...

i heard that about your mind being refreshed etc but still a black screen with really irritating sound effects...

5/26/2006 09:23:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Blanket Apology!

I want to apologize to everyone that was part of yesterdays posts that were arguing with each other, including myself. This is a GAME and meant to be fun and engaging for all of us. If we do not work together we will be wasting time and missing the fun. With that said, please be mindful of others and if you feel that what you are going to type is going to spoil someone else's fun let it be known that it is a spoiler. What is the harm in it really?

Off my soap box, enjoy the game.

Peace & Namaste

5/26/2006 09:23:00 AM  
Blogger Andrew said...

It's all good.

5/26/2006 09:34:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Kind of off topic and silly but has anyone noticed that there are gramatical errors on the hanso website? On the main page the smog filled photo in the lower right hand side says ...and our our work for a safer environment. Nothing major or earth shattering, but it could be 'true' what Hugh said about his webmaster making a mistake since there are others.

5/26/2006 09:48:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Also the mha is not listed underneath the logos for all of the projects...

5/26/2006 09:49:00 AM  
Blogger Deanna said...

Thanks, Thrash. I'm sorry, too.
I noticed something yesterday. You know how sometimes we lose the clock on Hanso? I think that happens when you load the site during those minutes when OBEY is in the clock space. I reset my clock several times to test that and it worked for me everytime.

Now. Hypes, Lena and Andrew... about that satellite thing...


Spoiler!











Remember that Henry Gale said that "Not even God can see this island" The producers said that we should listen and watch Henry very closely. Inputing the code so satellites can't see that place is a pretty darn good theory, IMHO. Also, he didn't seem to affected by the EMP or whatever it was. Need to go back and watch the ep again so I can check his feet when he's walking down the pier. He might have had only four toes! LOL! Interesting that DJDan was talking about the weapons. And here I thought Hanso was oh-so benevolent...

5/26/2006 09:51:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Hanso was also an arms dealer before being such a benevolent SOB! Henry seemed to be very unaffected by the electromagnetic meltdown and he seemed to look up towards the island...very interesting...maybe this is atlantis!

5/26/2006 09:56:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

The Organ Courier job description says that a knowledge of martial arts, self-defense and exstensive weapons training essentail. Why would an organ courier need these skills? Could this be why we know 'missing organs'? Has the previous organ courier lost his cargo?

5/26/2006 10:07:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Why would one need to sign a 'lifetime non-disclosure agreement?' Working with highly gifted and 'unstable' minds. I think there is more to get out of the hanso careers site. At least some insight to this benevolent company...

5/26/2006 10:10:00 AM  
Blogger Deanna said...

That is an odd file name, Ryan. Much like the q9als2002 file name was weird. What can we make out of that?

Thrash: I noticed, along with others, the VERY strange qualifications needed for those positions. Are they stealing organs? Why would you need tribal dialects and an ability for high speed travel? Also, highly gifted minds at the Vik Institute? Results of the "incident" perhaps.

5/26/2006 10:20:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

I cannot wait to be able to log into the VIK institute...I bet that is where Hurly, his number spewing pal, and Libby were...does anyone have old Tivo clips from those eps? Maybe there are name tags on the docs proving where they were...

5/26/2006 10:23:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Jaybird: your avatar is creeping me out!! LMAO!!!

5/26/2006 10:24:00 AM  
Blogger Deanna said...

True, but I have a feeling that Santa Rosa is a Hanso hospital, though.

5/26/2006 10:30:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Lydia, thanks for clearing that up for me. Dang, wish it was the VIK institutue, kind of a stretch for Hurly to be in Denmark I guess anyway....as you were...lol

5/26/2006 10:32:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

When you log in for the news letter everything goes black and white...just like the faceless man and the message from Pers, everything is there in black and white...I am reaching now...ignore me for the moment...

Peace & Namaste

5/26/2006 10:35:00 AM  
Blogger Deanna said...

No, b&w may be important. It's been a theme throughout the show.

Also, on the simian vet job, you can't have ever been a member of an animal rights or environmental group. Let's me out as I accidently joined the WWF one time. World Wildlife Fund, not that silly wrestling thing. With Joop being 105, it sounds like extreme and not always kind animal experimentation to me. Organs may be connected here as well. No room and board for spouse or child? What, they can't live with you while you're there on your multi-year contract?

5/26/2006 10:43:00 AM  
Blogger Andrew said...

The newsletter worked the same as always for me.

Cheers

5/26/2006 10:45:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Deanna, be honest you were a wrestler on the WWF!! LMAO!!!

Looks like they want people with no real background, kind of move in and out of society leaving no trace or memory of their exsistence. Kind of like the men in black....reaching again...

5/26/2006 10:49:00 AM  
Blogger Deanna said...

LOL! The closest thing to that I can confess to that are "matches" with my sister. She's 7 years older and always won, but that was YEARS ago.

Yeah! Sounds right. Maybe even someone who could "disappear" and not be noticed?

5/26/2006 10:55:00 AM  
Blogger Deanna said...

Lot of Africa connections in the game aren't there? Guinea is on the west coast of Africa and they have a hospital there. Ethiopia is very near the Sudan and there is another hospital there. Maybe WWPDP page is the next thing we'll be dealing with. Miracle and missing organs are both from that page and have no use yet. Yeah?

5/26/2006 11:05:00 AM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

I just watched the part of the video where the "blast" thing happens.

Henry DOES hold his hands to his ears just like everyone else...the only diffence is he knows what it means, and thats no surprise!

**also**
You cannot tell if he has four or five toes LOL


WHO IS THE GUY IN THE BOAT BESIDES HENRY???????????

5/26/2006 11:06:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Lena, I think it is just a good one goon...

5/26/2006 11:16:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

That is what I was looking into as well, could this be atlantis? Maybe Alvar was looking for it and found it and is trying to figure out it's mysteries can help mankind. Think about it, the odd happeneings, the foot, the block square on the cliff...

5/26/2006 11:18:00 AM  
Blogger Deanna said...

Lena:


Spoilers








Really? Henry had his hands on his ears. OK. I thought he looked like he knew what it was, too. Although, in Lockdown, and you tell me if I'm crazy, he didn't seem to know what was happening in the hatch when the lockdown itself was happening. He was in the armory alone and the look on his face made me think he was genuinely surprised by the noise. Also, their hatch appears to be caved in or a fake and their clothes suck. Maybe they're unaware that drops are still happening. He also said that Kate, Jack and Sawyer are going "home" with them. So where's THAT exactly? One last thing. Desmond thinks he brought the plane down and he may be right. But why was it so desperately off course to begin with? Can the EMP be so strong that it sucked a plane 1000 miles off course before crashing it?

5/26/2006 11:21:00 AM  
Blogger Deanna said...

Atlantis crossed my mind, too.

5/26/2006 11:23:00 AM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

Desmonds actions DID have SOMETHING to do with the plane...but it was STILL A PLANNED EVENT...that is WAY too obious.

Maybe when Henry was in the hatch, he didnt know what he NOW knows.

Yes the other's "home" is not that hatch we saw in the fake camp for the others. Doesnt anyone remember that they briefly show Sayid attemping to go into that entrance and finds out ITS FAKE!!???

Kinda worried what will come of him.

5/26/2006 11:27:00 AM  
Blogger Deanna said...

An Anger Management Director needs to efficiently manage unforeseen human complications of the Foundation's work and deal with rapid responses, mission-critical variables and human rights. What the hell is going on in Korea that's pissing people off to this degree? In the original phone messages the "inquiry into the Korean off-shore project" is mentioned, but they won't comment about it and this job ad says that sea-based travel will be required. Inquiry into the project, eh? By who? Right after that is when Thompson comes on and yells that threats against employees of Widmore and Paik-Heavy etc. are criminal.

Just thinking out loud in hopes I can trigger something...

5/26/2006 11:38:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

What exactly is an unforseen human complication? Maybe we need to retrace our steps a bit and look into those sites again...

5/26/2006 11:41:00 AM  
Blogger Andrew said...

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5/26/2006 11:44:00 AM  
Blogger Andrew said...

Persephone would qualify as an unforseen human complication.

5/26/2006 11:46:00 AM  
Blogger Deanna said...

That could be someone not liking what they see or what they are being asked to do and raising a ruckus about it. A persuasive, open demeanor and previous experience in psychology and mediation are preferred. Sounds like they are looking for someone to talk irate employees or nosy public officials down. Someone who can put a more pleasant face on a situation and deflect criticism of the Foundation.

5/26/2006 11:49:00 AM  
Blogger Andrew said...

Well that job would have been already taken by Hugh then.

5/26/2006 11:51:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

How long has Hugh been part of the group, where did his predecessor go? Was he an unforseen human complication? I wish we had in game sites for widemore and paik-heavy...

5/26/2006 11:53:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Checking into atlantis I found this dude Kircher who had some ideas to where atlantis was/is located, he also made this map, link below, of the earths internal fires. Which looks alot like our map of the hatches...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Kircherearthfires.jpg

5/26/2006 11:56:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

interesting novel from the 17th century...

The Island of the Day Before (L'isola del giorno prima) is a 1994 novel by Umberto Eco. It is the story of a 17th century Italian nobleman trapped on an island at the International Date Line.

5/26/2006 11:59:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Kircher published a large number of substantial books on a very wide variety of subjects, such as Egyptology, geology, and music theory. His syncretic approach paid no attention to the boundaries between disciplines which are now conventional: his Magnes, for example, was ostensibly a discussion of magnetism, but also explored other forms of attraction such as gravity and love.

5/26/2006 12:01:00 PM  
Blogger Deanna said...

THAT was a great find, Thrasher. The man that drew that map was into heiroglyphs, magnetism, geology and proposed quarantine and facemasks to prevent disease.

5/26/2006 12:10:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Is anyone realy adept at greek mythology? I took it in college, but never really paid great attention, how many toes did the gods have? Could that foot statue be an Atlantian tribute to the gods?

Thanks, Deana, just throwing things out there. Perhaps I am just doing the research the shows producers did to add elements to the show...

5/26/2006 12:15:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Mr.Drew, fantastic!!!

No if only I could find a picture of Hercules...

5/26/2006 12:22:00 PM  
Blogger Andrew said...

http://www.utexas.edu/courses/larrymyth/images/hercules1/AA-Herc-Farnese.jpg



5 toes

5/26/2006 12:25:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Atlantis may be a strech, since most accounts of it's possible location have it NW of Africa between Africa and the Caribbean...flights from Australia to LA do not fly in that direction unless conecting in an eastern city, non-stops tend to fly east over the pacific. But what do those old heads know from the 17th century...

5/26/2006 12:29:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

MrDrew, thanks and rats, but Hercules was not a god, he was the son of a god, so what did the dieties have for toes?

5/26/2006 12:30:00 PM  
Blogger Andrew said...

t-emmer23-
I think its a fake and not in game

5/26/2006 12:38:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Still going down the mythological road on the foot thing, how many toes did a sphinx have? 4!!! You know we have not talked about the grean and almost transparent bird that said Hurly's name, what's up with that?

5/26/2006 12:52:00 PM  
Blogger Deanna said...

T-emmer23:
Spoilers...sorta






Extremely well made, but I didn't seem to learn much from it. What I mean is, we already knew all that stuff about social engineering and science converging from the first Orientation film. And we've known since season 1 that the island had unusual magnetic properties. The only relatively new thing is the satellite deal (which we've already discussed in here today) and the idea of satellite tracking being used in the show was really just presented on Wed night. This was put up on the 13th, looks like. It could go either way, I guess. How's that for non-commital? =o)

5/26/2006 12:53:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

It is a well made video, but I am on the fence, also non-commital!

My brain hurts!

5/26/2006 12:59:00 PM  
Blogger Andrew said...

My reasoning behind thinking that the video is fake is: nothing really that is "in game" brought us to the video. (unless you are in game t-emmer) spooky music
But, every clue that we have gotten is derived from something that is already determined to be in game. When the new stuff arrives IE sublymonal it is supported by another site or "clue" which is a secondary check to prove to us that it is in game. Now if we were to get a message from P or the jeep Budda or whatever that sent us to this video then I would believe it and look harder into it. But as for now I feel it is a nice video, but not in game.

Cheers

5/26/2006 01:05:00 PM  
Blogger Deanna said...

Spoiler





Thrasher: Here's an idea. There were heiroglyphs used in the hatch on the countdown clock, right? Those were deciphered to mean death. Could the statue be a hind foot of Anubis? Consider this:

"Tutankhamun's Anubis, like so many others, bears many features characteristic of a dog: long muzzle, eyes with round pupils, five-toed forefeet and four-toed hind feet."

"Anubis' realm dealt with death and preparation for the afterlife."

5/26/2006 01:11:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Deanna - Excellent idea, I was just researching that same thing.

Anubis was identified as the father of Kebechet, the goddess of the purification of bodily organs.

Missing Organs????

5/26/2006 01:15:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

The hiroglyphics say "cause to die"

5/26/2006 01:16:00 PM  
Blogger Deanna said...

Thrasher: Very nice. And Egyptians routinely removed organs from bodies to be mummified. I have no idea how THAT can play in here anywhere...

Matt: You're right. They are different. Lostpedia has both images up for comparison.

5/26/2006 01:18:00 PM  
Blogger nuvs said...

Just a follow-up...sublymonal.com still doesn't work for me.

When I get to the site, I get a rotating Sprite can in a single yellow rectangle (the same shape of the TVs that was on the site when it first launched a few weeks back). Below that, is the text "Do Not Blink. Your Mind is Being Refreshed".

There is no place to enter a password, and the only visible link is the sound off icon.

It looks like they have changed the site sometime today; those of you who can still enter the password as of this posting probably have a cached version of the .swf file.

I guess I was too late to see the changes! :(

5/26/2006 01:19:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Ugh....my head hurts and I have no idea if I am venturing to far from where I should be...there is to much information that can seem to be related to this game and its mythos...my hats off to the creators!!

Peace & Namaste

5/26/2006 01:20:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Does anyone have a screen grab from the show of the statue foot? And the Black rock square thing on the cliff?

5/26/2006 01:23:00 PM  
Blogger Don't squeeze the Charmin said...

i still get just a black screen and sound effects on http://www.sublymonal.com/ ... SO IRRITATING!!

5/26/2006 01:26:00 PM  
Blogger Deanna said...

Thrasher:

I don't know why I bother to think at all. Lostpedia already has what we've been discussing! Go there. They have great shots of the dang foot... =oP

5/26/2006 01:32:00 PM  
Blogger nuvs said...

Thrasher:

The statue image: http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Image:Foot-statue.jpg.

The black rock square think: http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Image:Rock-with-hole.jpg.

5/26/2006 01:33:00 PM  
Blogger Deanna said...

Angie: Is it your first time in there?

5/26/2006 01:34:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

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5/26/2006 01:40:00 PM  
Blogger Deanna said...

From Lostpedia:

41: * [[Charlie]]'s tattoo reads "Living is Easy with Eyes Closed".

I was working with that on Wed. Thrasher. I couldn't get any of my image programs to clear it up, though. Good luck!

5/26/2006 01:46:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

t-emmer, I cannot view youtube sites at work, WTF!!! well, most of them anyway, copied the link to send to my home email, but from what your are describing sounds like the statue may play into it as well.

5/26/2006 01:48:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Deanna, Thanks!! It was cool to think I was having an orginal thought! Oh, well, going there now!!

Peace & New Must Aye!

5/26/2006 01:51:00 PM  
Blogger Deanna said...

Angie: I used hole1.thf.org just to get a clean try and got it to work fine. It was the same as the very first time I did it 3 weeks ago.

5/26/2006 01:53:00 PM  
Blogger Deanna said...

I know! It's disappointing...

5/26/2006 01:53:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Deanna, Found that the statue is the Colosuss of Rhoades or similar, but that was beleived to be constructed and errected on the greek island of Rhodes...the island doesn't seem to be near there...hmmm a possible duplicate? Or another statue to Helios??? Interesting....

Peace & No moose tie

5/26/2006 02:11:00 PM  
Blogger Deanna said...

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5/26/2006 02:16:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Why man, he doth bestride the narrow world
Like a Colossus, and we petty men
Walk under his huge legs and peep about
To find ourselves dishonourable graves

Quote on the bottom of the Satue of Liberty

Inspired from the Rhoades Statue...

Peace & Namaste!

5/26/2006 02:18:00 PM  
Blogger The Odens said...

This may be off topic, but has anyone out there looked at www.valenzettifoundation.org ? Site came up in April.

5/26/2006 02:24:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Loden, it is a fan site.

5/26/2006 02:26:00 PM  
Blogger The Odens said...

thanks thrasher.

5/26/2006 02:31:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Andrew,
The video was practically pushed in my face when following the game. The link from Hugh Mcintyres mailbox to the jeep advert video had all sorts of key words next to it. Pretty much all pointing to this videos (and other(s) just as professionally made). It seems to me that it would be perfectly logical to find these videos by following the game.

The comparrison to the man in the video and the picture found at persephone.thehansofoundation.org (which has to mean something; it was a hard clue to find) is startling. Is this clue pointing us to the video? And the other video(s) to be found on youtube about the Dharma initiative?

I think that t-emmer23 made very good arguments for the video being something to do with the game, if not just to intrigue us.

I just wish someone could find something concrete.

Thanks for reading

5/26/2006 03:08:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Sorry.

I meant the picture to be found at hole2.thehansofoundation.org and NOT persephone.thehansofoundation.org

5/26/2006 03:28:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Jessiep - we kind of figured it out earlier today, nice work though, now try and crack the square black rock on the cliff near the others fake camp....

New Must Eye

5/26/2006 04:33:00 PM  
Blogger Dennis said...

T-emmer23

I have seen the Hoffitt film, and it is definitely FAKE.

If you look at about 2:40 there is a "Hanso Industries Tracking Site" sign. Everything in background is blurry and moves around a little, except for the sign. This was OBVIOUSLY edited.

The Hanso logo on the building is a little too "shiny" and looks computer generated. The opening and closing screens would be very easy to add.

I think what they did is use some generic space/science educational video, and re-record the sound so they could add Hanso and Dharma references.

100 bonus points to someone who finds the orignal video.

5/26/2006 04:34:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Nice, we are getting points now, are the arbitrary like the ones given out on Whose Line is it Anyway? If so I demand 200,000 points up front!

Lambaste!!

=)

5/26/2006 04:37:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Matt - It is strange as I was doing my digging and found some cool stuff that may relate in greek mythology I noticed that the Jewish religion came up alot. Hitler himself actually searched for a mythic greek power that would give him ever lasting life and ultimate power. But alas he did not succeed. Many religions and Lost mythos are rooted in greek mythology. Read up on some of my early posts with some interesting things including a guy that was into alot of the same things Hanso is into, but in the 17th century. He even made a map that looks like our island hatch map...

Good Luck & Namaste

5/26/2006 05:01:00 PM  
Blogger Arkay said...

t-emmer:
i agree, the video has got to be real.
i understand why some people don't think it is, but i don't see how it can't be.

5/26/2006 05:14:00 PM  
Blogger Dennis said...

If anyone is having trouble loading the Sublymonal website, I had to reload the page three or four times to get it work. It must be overloaded. Keep trying though, it does work.

5/26/2006 05:20:00 PM  
Blogger Arkay said...

the video:
there is just too much detailed info it coroborates which has only come to light in the last few days. BUT, it is stuff which was revealed on the TV SHOW and not necessarily the LOST EXPERIENCE.
i'm so confused, and either way, the video seems to be pretty freaking accurate and wellmade.

as for the fact that it's been computer edited:
no duh! even if it was done by the producers themselves, its clear they used stock footage.
i'm intrigued by the pan accross the students in the room, when it takes like 30 seconds to pan accross them. will we see these actors in season 3 or 4?!?!?!
that would rule.

whatever, my head's exploding.

nomos de: richard

5/26/2006 05:43:00 PM  
Blogger Arkay said...

yea, monster.com has definately been 'in game' in the past. the phone # that started this whole thing (and is now down) had a monster ad on it.

5/26/2006 07:04:00 PM  
Blogger Arkay said...

Howard,
that's interesting, as i dont remember ever making that connection.
Way to keep your eyes open...

5/26/2006 07:29:00 PM  
Blogger Dennis said...

Did anyone see the DEFIB video?

It has been removed from YouTube. I wonder what was in it that it had to be removed?

The DEFIB code still shows up on the SubLymonal website, but no video.

5/26/2006 07:51:00 PM  
Blogger k.barrick said...

Howard-

AND to take the risk that the people commenting would tear you apart.

Good pick-up though..

5/26/2006 07:52:00 PM  
Blogger Andrew said...

I want to say it came along about the same time as the Inmate Asylum clue.

5/26/2006 08:06:00 PM  
Blogger Dennis said...

.
ZERODARK: I'm sure the DEFIB video DID work at some point...but it does not work now. Now, when you enter the DEFIB code, then click on the TV, it takes you to the YouTube page, but it says "This video has been removed by the user."

What was the DEFIB video about? What I was wondering is why they had to pull it? Was there something offensive it it?

5/26/2006 10:14:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

The mouth piece

5/26/2006 11:23:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

Izzyjman said...

How does the breaking strain thing work, every time i go to the newletter sign up, i type in breaking strain as the username i want to use, and then i click next and the screen freezes, does anyone know what i am doing wrong, if so leave a comment. It would be greatly appreciated

You have to put in YOUR name, then say "yes" when they ask if you can read it, THAN put in breaking strain!

5/26/2006 11:43:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

I emailed the head guys about this BUT havent heard anything yet and I am DYING to show it to everyone!!!

click this

I know a bunch of stuff about it too!!!!!!!!!

Lena

5/27/2006 10:24:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

Well my hubby saw a reference to it this morning on another blog, so no, didnt truely find it!

HOWEVER...there are already new COOL stuff going on within it! When someone wants to know, I will let ya know. But it would be better to wait till our guys post a new clue thing to it.

5/27/2006 10:35:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

**spoiler about st sebastion**



















If you put on the end of the link "asyluminmate" it gives you whole new area...

Also the logo in the upper righthand corner changes just a little from st sebastian to different letters! Still working on that.

the asyluminmate thing is CRAZY! We decoded most of it (have to highlight the whole thing and there is binary code)OH YES...there is a little more but...post more later!

5/27/2006 10:40:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

Yes, LOL, parts of that are from my husband LOL RXHECTOR

5/27/2006 10:43:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

TY! He is a SERIOUS LOST junky now LOL

He also happens to be a geek too. He builds websites/databases and is certified in just about everything, so yah, he is good to have on my LOST team LOL!

5/27/2006 10:55:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

And he is kinda seems like he has OCD too :P (J/K kind of)

5/27/2006 10:57:00 PM  
Blogger Rockman9045 said...

this may be nothing but,

"In the Olympian pantheon, Persephone is given a father: according to Hesiod's Theogony, Persephone was the daughter produced by the union of Zeus and Demeter. "And he [Zeus] came to the bed of bountiful Demeter, who bore white-armed Persephone, stolen by Hades from her mother's side"."

Except for the words after proudced by, it is word for word what was said on the sublymonal site.
http://www.crystalinks.com/greekgods3.html

this is the site were i got it.

5/28/2006 07:43:00 PM  
Blogger Trey Bonner said...

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5/28/2006 07:55:00 PM  
Blogger Trey Bonner said...

bellyOfdesire,

I've seen OB:EY in the time area in the past, but this time there was no time whatsoever. Not even the :. I went out and came back in and it had reappeared. I should have done that first before posting. I've since deleted my original post.

Thank you.

5/28/2006 08:20:00 PM  
Blogger Rockman9045 said...

bellyOfdesire,
sorry bout that, i knew you were looking up the myths, but i didnt know you found word for word.

5/28/2006 08:50:00 PM  
Blogger Fenris said...

Hi all, I've been working on the faceless man angle. I had a theory that hasn't quite panned out but is worth mentioning for the sake of at least ruling things out if nothing else.

I had a theory about the faceless man thing. I recall someone saying we were reading it wrong. To me that suggested that the picture is not infact a picture at all. It's a stream of data. Now it's not really my field to look at things in binaries and figure out codes from numbers but I am fairly good with sound and I recalled that there are programs that can convert images to sound. I dug one out ("The vOICe - learning edition") and plummed the picture through it. I tried different angles and speeds and a couple of the runs seems to show something that sounded like a voice. All well and good so far, but things like EVP and the supposed back tracking trials (ask Judas Priest about that one) has shown us that it's quite easy to hear something that isn't there in "noise" type sound when you are looking to hear something. I did run a few other black and white pictures through the program to see if it produced similar effects and they didn't. Of course that doesn't proove anything, but it suggested the sounds were worth further investigations.

I put the samples into Adobe Audition and did various things to it, like isolating the centre channel, EQ and noise reduction, but I didn't get close to finding any definite phrase. What is in there is either a fluke or an excessively complex clue. Having said that, the whole method of finding the face wasn't exactly A-B to start with so perhaps this is meant to be a difficult one. I thought I heard "Further down the wire" or possibly "Pale Water" (with the earlier part of the "words" being pressumed just noise at that point) through one of my samples and "Obey" in another one. I ruled out the later because it's something that is shown regularly on the main Hanso site and so has probably been plummed into entry boxes (and URLs) all over the internet multiple times already.

I couldn't clear up the "words" well enough to make anything out clearly. I suspect a different picture-sound program may come out with a different output too and there are so many word possibilities you may as well ignore it and just make words up until you find something that works. In other words, one big dead end. I may put mp3s of the files online somewhere if people are interested, plus the program I used is free so anyone else can give it a try from scratch too if they want. But I think you will be wasting your time.

As I said though, at least it is something to rule out and it shows people are still working on the face problem and haven't been sucked into the Sprite marketing frenzy.

5/29/2006 05:40:00 PM  
Blogger Trey Bonner said...

I agree with you Alex. I read every single post under every topic on the site over the last three days. I now hope that I'm up to speed. I'm now staring to work through the Messages Board posts and getting close to being done. Whew!

5/29/2006 08:56:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

I'm posting this here because this seems to be the most active clue people are on right now.

Has anyone noticed on thf.org Mission Statement the picture of the dove being released by two hands (which only show 3 fingers on each hand by the way) seems to have changed slightly. The white "smoke" or "feathers" left behind as the bird takes flight seems to be different now. It seems like it is a picture of something similar to hole2 man. I'm not computor literate enough to manipulate it. Or, like most of you guys, am I beginning to see things that aren't there as we wait for this long holiday weekend to end?

5/29/2006 10:28:00 PM  
Blogger k.barrick said...

Everyone knows the Hanso site RSS feed updated... right?

5/30/2006 01:19:00 PM  
Blogger Dennis said...

The Mathmatical Forecasting Page has been updated...

5/30/2006 01:26:00 PM  
Blogger k.barrick said...

My RSS page lists 4 updates. Mathematical one I'm in now. Trying to figure out what to do...

5/30/2006 01:28:00 PM  
Blogger David said...

No, that just got added. If you subscribe to the RSS feed, you get updated when the various pages on thf.org get changed.

5/30/2006 01:28:00 PM  
Blogger Dennis said...

If you click on the "man" in Sudan, and the "$" in the USA, there are two places to enter passwords. Not sure what can go there yet...

5/30/2006 01:30:00 PM  
Blogger k.barrick said...

Alright then. The RSS feed has confused me because it alerted to every clue/update except the second one... so either they had problems or don't always update it. Don't know.

Is the Interactive Map of the world new in the Mathematical forecast thing?

5/30/2006 01:31:00 PM  
Blogger k.barrick said...

It looks like quiz answers... like the GDP of the U.S. in 2005 was ____. Anyways, yeah. Not sure what to put. Gonna try the newsletter 'cause the RSS feed said Joop was updated.

5/30/2006 01:32:00 PM  
Blogger David said...

GOT IT

If you go to the USA, click on the $, and type in 42000 and hit enter, there's a slight change. Now go over to Italy and click the syringe icon there and type in 10.4 and hit enter. Finally, hit the icon of the man in the Sudan and type in 2.55 and hit enter.

A circle should appear in the Indian Ocean. Click it.

5/30/2006 01:38:00 PM  
Blogger Dennis said...

Mister Invisible - Where did you get those numbers from?

5/30/2006 01:44:00 PM  
Blogger k.barrick said...

Dude... I entered the EXACT GDP that I got off the web... damnit.

5/30/2006 01:45:00 PM  
Blogger David said...

I got those numbers from the CIA World Fact Book
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/

5/30/2006 01:45:00 PM  
Blogger k.barrick said...

I believe those are the actual answers to the queries... the 2005 USA GDP= 41557 or roughly 42,000.

Crap. Of course.

5/30/2006 01:46:00 PM  
Blogger nuvs said...

Hi folks!

Looks like the thf.org website has been updated today! I just emailed the people who run this blog, but I thought I'd post here too:

The RSS feed reports a change to the Mathematical Forecasting Initiative.

There is a new MFI Forecast Map that brings up a world map with several different icon types: people, oil barrels, syringes and dollar signs. Clicking on the icons gives you small pop-up bubbles with data for that region.

Clicking on the dollar sign in the US, and the syringe in Italy show pop-ups that have a text entry field. I entered some random text, but nothing happened. Looks like we need the right code...

It looks like Persephone is ready to give us more info!

5/30/2006 01:47:00 PM  
Blogger David said...

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5/30/2006 01:48:00 PM  
Blogger k.barrick said...

Hanso Foundation.... starting wars so you don't have to!

5/30/2006 01:48:00 PM  
Blogger David said...

nuvs
Read back up a bit .. I posted the solutions.

5/30/2006 01:49:00 PM  
Blogger nuvs said...

Thanks, misterinvisible. Looks like you beat me to the punch.

Nice work!

As for the clue: it doesn't look like there is much there, besides the redacted email.

5/30/2006 01:50:00 PM  
Blogger David said...

Yeah, all I saw was a partly blacked out letter and a quote from Persephone at the end.

5/30/2006 01:51:00 PM  
Blogger k.barrick said...

misterinvisible... were there more RSS updates listed on your computer?

5/30/2006 01:57:00 PM  
Blogger k.barrick said...

My guess is Verizon.

p.s. Drink ovaltine.

5/30/2006 02:04:00 PM  
Blogger k.barrick said...

Backwards text seems simple... rather than her other stuff so a hack inside a hack sounds right.

But we know Persephone works or worked for the foundation. Perhaps this is about a different "she." The she in the hospital gown... Penelope...

5/30/2006 02:08:00 PM  
Blogger k.barrick said...

Speaker poster. Just repeated the basics of what we've done.

Also, people in Australia are going to be able to get "Bad Twin" by going to some art exhibition and saying a coded question to someone there.

That's taking the experience to the STREETS! (super-enthusiastic 80s-type teenage fist up in the air)

5/30/2006 02:12:00 PM  
Blogger Dennis said...

FYI: There is a New Clue and Comments section for the Mathmatical Forecasting Initiative Update

5/30/2006 02:21:00 PM  
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5/31/2006 12:38:00 PM  
Blogger High Power Rocketry said...

: )

6/05/2006 09:13:00 PM  

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