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Clue #50 - Persephone (17) Hole 4 & Mental Health

Persphone's message portal, persephone.thehansofoundation.org was updated with new numbers translating into a new message reading "+1 timeless together". Naturally, check for a hole4 and you'll find that there is a new picture up at hole4.thehansofoundation.org. The file name is u8egnce86.gif.

Also, the Mental Health Appeal page has been updated (click RSS at the bottom of the Hanso site to see the update). There is an "Inquire Today" box which leads to another Persephone hack. The password was found by "Just Willow" and posted in the comments over at Inside the Experience. Here is how it was discovered:

The file names for Hole 2, 3, & 4 are: q9als2002,t9agen75, and u8egnce86. Persephone's message, Timeless Together, was understood to be a clue that we should take away the time or the dates from these sequences and then put the rest together. So, if you take away 2002/75/86 from the file names, you are left with "q9alst9agenu8egnce" and if you change the numbers to letters (9=i and 8=h) you get "qialstiagenuhegnce" which is an anagram for "light sequence again".

By typing that into the box, you'll find a letter related to the Vik Institute and a neat memory game that gives us clues about the "Department of Heuristics and Research Material Applications"....D.H.A.R.M.A.

Play the random Memory Game (it will drive you crazy). I got to 45 and gave up after that...had to get back to work....Wondering why I never got my Apollo bar at 42? CHEERS to "Idaho Girl"! She made it all the way up to 108 in the "Simon" memory game and confirmed for us that...NOTHING HAPPENS! (See the comments for Clue #51)

Thanks to Chad, Evil, Dennis, Rod, Rich, Justin, DH, Dave for being the first to email us this info.
Thanks to Just Willow for the password (and to pharmacopaia & julie for passing it on) and to Idaho Girl for having the discipline to make it to 108

238 Comments:

Blogger Miss Topisto said...

Does anyone know about the new DJ Dan podcast?!

6/12/2006 03:26:00 PM  
Blogger jengod said...

Timeless together reminds me of infinite jest. Less time together? Space alone? Space balls? Okay, no idea. :)

6/12/2006 03:46:00 PM  
Blogger The Penuels said...

Interesting that if you google "timeless together" the second entry is an istockphoto pic of 2 swans.

6/12/2006 03:47:00 PM  
Blogger jengod said...

We are definitely due for a big MHA reveal. I've been keeping track of the Storyline of TLE and we've just had MFI and WWDDP reveals, so if they continue in that order MHA is the next major beat.

6/12/2006 03:49:00 PM  
Blogger The Penuels said...

Thanks yakobus1, I'm trying to catch up at work but this is just too fun! I don't usually play along in the comments but since I've been having withdrawls, I thought I'd jump in today. Hope nobody minds :)

P.S. I'm working on the Research Blog stuff. We had way more "applicants" than I anticipated. We're getting close...

6/12/2006 03:51:00 PM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

admin :D I just got the swans pic too!

6/12/2006 03:55:00 PM  
Blogger jengod said...

If you convert the letters in the filenames to numbers, stack them on top of each other and add up each column, then split the 26+ items into parsable digits, and convert back to letters, you get: E H Z G Z C H S L M H, which spells BIG FAT NOTHING. :)

6/12/2006 03:59:00 PM  
Blogger Don't squeeze the Charmin said...

who ran the first hole pic through something to get audio that said "save me" ? can they do it again on the newest pic?

6/12/2006 03:59:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

David, Hope Colorado was fun!! The guys did a good job while you were away, although not much happened, except for blog issues, but we are going strong now...welcome back and of course....Namaste!!!!

6/12/2006 04:00:00 PM  
Blogger The Penuels said...

Crossfade, Unfortunately we don't think it would be wise or productive to give over 100 people (around 105 "applicants") access to one blog. So not everyone will get an invitation to post. Of course...everyone is welcome to comment on the contributors' posts (as usual). I was thinking more along the lines of 10 or so contributors. So far, based on what we've seen in individuals through emails & comments, we have narrowed the field down to about 30. It's a very difficult task but we're wrestling with it as best we know how.

6/12/2006 04:01:00 PM  
Blogger jengod said...

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6/12/2006 04:01:00 PM  
Blogger The Penuels said...

BellyOfDesire...Looks like I'm busted. If only I could flip my image horizontally in real life...I've always wanted my right side to be my good side...

6/12/2006 04:04:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Belly, LMAO, That does looko like David!!!

And I hope I get choosen to be in a reasearch blog, I loke to focus on one thing for awhile and I have ample time at work...although that sounds backwards...meh...

6/12/2006 04:05:00 PM  
Blogger wojciechowski said...

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6/12/2006 04:12:00 PM  
Blogger Fenris said...

Hi all. Big hmm here. Together does suggest now is the time to try and find links betweent he holes, no idea about timeless. Or of course it could just be an anagram or code. The picture itself is interesting too because hole2 was made up of verticle lines and hole4 is made up of horizontal ones. Hole3 was just blury and we know it had a hint in it for something else. So perhaps it is just about using hole2 and 4 together. Unless of course it's reference to the names only in which case what is pic 4 (and 2 for that matter about).

I've already flushed it through my pic-sound program and this one doesn't sound like much (although I've still to turn it around and try other angles). But I'm gonna eat now so will check back in a bit.

6/12/2006 04:12:00 PM  
Blogger The Penuels said...

izzyjman, it's really me. Why?

6/12/2006 04:15:00 PM  
Blogger Dennis said...

westendgirl29 said... besides, it's encoded. THANK LOST! :):) It's more fun this way.

Unfortunatly, it is still not encrypted :(

But I'm not looking anyways...

6/12/2006 04:17:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Thought I would skip the comments to mention that i think blackholes are virtually timeless and the bring everything together. Just a thought May be wrong but I am going back to catching up.

6/12/2006 04:21:00 PM  
Blogger Don't squeeze the Charmin said...

a little of subject but i thought it was interesting - i added "thejeepchannel" to my friends on youtube.com (the user who posted the jeep commercials that came from different lost experience sites), and i just now saw that he/she sent me a message on June 1st that says "it's something I had to do. they pushed me out of the deal. more later." What do you all make of this??? Anyone else do the same?

6/12/2006 04:23:00 PM  
Blogger Miss Topisto said...

You guys really don't care about the football/soccer worldchampionships, do you? ;-)

6/12/2006 04:25:00 PM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

I recall seeing black hole at some point too, but it may have been in a comment, not in-game.

6/12/2006 04:28:00 PM  
Blogger Miss Topisto said...

Yeah, I heard about that... But there was just an exciting match going on while the latest clue appeared... ;-)

6/12/2006 04:28:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Sophie, that is not true the US just got it's butt handed to them 3-0 by the Czechs, some of us do care...I am routing for Mexico personally...

6/12/2006 04:28:00 PM  
Blogger Miss Topisto said...

that's cool @harcar2001

I wonder if that's something "real"

6/12/2006 04:29:00 PM  
Blogger The Penuels said...

Antecedent, got your email. My wife thinks I'm nuts too!
Sophie, even though I played soccer in H.S. right now all I care about in the world of sports is the Dallas Mavericks!

I'm thinking we're on a good path with the "timeless gene" stuff. Finding some very interesting reads. Also called the "timeout" gene in mammals and the connection on the MHA page is "timed out"...hmmm... :)

I'm thinking DJDan will hook us up today...podcast has gotta be out there somewhere...

6/12/2006 04:30:00 PM  
Blogger k.barrick said...

have we figured anything out yet????

6/12/2006 04:30:00 PM  
Blogger Miss Topisto said...

thrasher: I live in Hamburg, that's where the US team is stayind during the WC... and we don't like them too much because of all the security measures... We can't even get to the shops in the city anymore sometimes... But they were just weaker than their opponent. They did what they could, I think.

6/12/2006 04:31:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Phew. Just finished catching up. You guys can really go when a new clue comes out. Glad it is not solved yet though.
I never saw mentioned about a black hole. That is why after about 60 comments or so I thought I had better mention it. Don't know the relevance though other than "it is another hole"

Good to see you all and hope we get this.

6/12/2006 04:35:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

I wonder if black holes will come up in the DJDan podcast. :)

Sorry. Back to clue solving.

6/12/2006 04:37:00 PM  
Blogger Miss Topisto said...

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6/12/2006 04:37:00 PM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

well the last clue was related to the genome projects and was a word that something to do with genetics and reproductions. perhaps this "timeless together," since it is for the mental health appeal has more to do with psychology or pshyciatry?

6/12/2006 04:39:00 PM  
Blogger The Penuels said...

izzyjman, sorry. I was just joking earlier. You're the first to speculate, but just so everyone's clear: I am just a fan.
(Now you all know why I don't comment much...I know myself and understand that I'm way too social and A.D.D....and I don't want to annoy everyone).

Back to clue-solving.

6/12/2006 04:42:00 PM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

for instance,the Pearl station was all about a mental test to see if the participants would follow instructions, a way of making the rats thinking that they were the controllers rather than the experiment.

6/12/2006 04:44:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

The letters W and A, mentioned previously are definitely in there. I am sure. (in the latest faceless pic that is). No one find any other letters?

6/12/2006 04:46:00 PM  
Blogger Dennis said...

CROSSFADE: Thanks for the World Cup SPOILER!

I was planning on watching it when I got home from work. :(

I though I only had to worry about Lost spoilers in here...

6/12/2006 04:48:00 PM  
Blogger Deanna said...

I've been thinking we may be onto something with the genetic stuff. There are genes called "timeless" and have to do with circadian rhythms as stated before. Remember that Persephone said she was on "no sleep"? There is some info about human and mouse clocks I'm looking into at the moment. Maybe that will bear fruit...

6/12/2006 04:48:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

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6/12/2006 04:49:00 PM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

Any other Aussies thinking of Dr Karl and his "Stop Revive Survive" circadian rhythm ad... and his clock shirt? LOL

6/12/2006 04:50:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

W I A and r seem to be there. Might seem nothing but the W especially looks as if it wants to be found.

6/12/2006 04:52:00 PM  
Blogger GhettoGumby said...

Could the code that appeared on lots of the dharma items in the show (DI9FFTR731) be related to these .gif names?

hole4 = u8egnce86.gif
hole3 = t9agen75.gif
hole2 = q9als2002.gif
ITEMS = di9fftr731

seems to have a similiar format as the others.
http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/DI_9FFTR731

6/12/2006 04:54:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Well, then I will stop searching or shall I say confusing my brain on PAR 4 from my previous post...going to delete it now...

Ouch!! My brain hurts form that...

6/12/2006 04:55:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

I concur with you on the W and A, they are there...was trying to firgure out to show them...nice work...

Have a fun night on the rest of this, time to fight traffic to get home!!! What fun!!

Peace & Namaste!

6/12/2006 04:59:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Links to the letters are here

pic 1

pic 2

6/12/2006 05:02:00 PM  
Blogger Hearing Voices said...

What exaclty is lost?

Can anyone explain?

6/12/2006 05:05:00 PM  
Blogger Mike Fowler said...

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6/12/2006 05:05:00 PM  
Blogger Hearing Voices said...

So what do the numbers mean?

6/12/2006 05:06:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

The socond pic leads to the letter r (not capitalised).

"WAr" for now.

6/12/2006 05:09:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

roomforhuman:

It could be an I, l, + or nothing

6/12/2006 05:10:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Could be an E at a push also.

6/12/2006 05:11:00 PM  
Blogger Mike Fowler said...

I highly doubt this is anything, but I'll post since I found it interesting.

If you take the numbers from persephone.thehansofoundation.org and take all of the digits that are found in the lost numbers, you are left with a 9 followed by 9 zeros, or 9000000000.

-Mike

6/12/2006 05:12:00 PM  
Blogger GhettoGumby said...

Why do I always get the feeling like these images are like binary code. With all the pixels they could represent 0's and 1's?

6/12/2006 05:16:00 PM  
Blogger Deanna said...

The ear and hair on the right kind of looks like a big S. Is that anything?

6/12/2006 05:16:00 PM  
Blogger Miss Topisto said...

I put the pictures into a hex editor - nothing. Except they all begin with "GIF89a". But i junst don't know if this is something or not.

6/12/2006 05:18:00 PM  
Blogger Miss Topisto said...

oh, 89a is a gif-type, I guess

6/12/2006 05:20:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

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6/12/2006 05:22:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

I think the left ear looks like the Swan logo.

6/12/2006 05:23:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Why did the together part of the message come later. The message ws just +1 timeless for a while. Surely no accident. Emphasis on "together" maybe.

6/12/2006 05:24:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

dreamland is timeless.
Urrgh. Frustrating. Must mean something.

6/12/2006 05:25:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Let us see please orion if you can. I haven't got a photo program to do this right now.

6/12/2006 05:27:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

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6/12/2006 05:27:00 PM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

swans, swans, everywhere, and not a clue among them.

6/12/2006 05:30:00 PM  
Blogger thinbluemime said...

See me , feel me...idiot savant LOL
http://users.newblog.com/thinbluemime/?blogcategory_id=218

6/12/2006 05:31:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

orion:
I'm not sure myself. It seems more like I am looking too hard to me. Can't be sure though. I can see it. Just.

6/12/2006 05:33:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

thinbluemime:

I guess it would be OK if you CLEARLY pointed out that the pictures were ahead of things here but I have come to find that I prefer to follow the game properly when the major clues come out. Thanks though. but please make it clear what it is.

Sorry. I really appreciate what you are doing. Been there but this is more fun. :)

6/12/2006 05:37:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

I agree belly but r is definitely standing out to me. Don't you think?

6/12/2006 05:38:00 PM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

I think the key is the DJ Dan podcast since the website is in the MHA source code

6/12/2006 05:43:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

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6/12/2006 05:46:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

They tried all three together. not sure if just hole2 and hole4. Seemed to me as though they were trying a few things so probably would have tried that. Could have missed something though. It would be nice to see.

6/12/2006 05:47:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

What does this site that was referred to earlier in the comments mean. I cannot remember by whom; sorry.

http://www.micropersuasion.com/2006/05/why_boards_domi.html

It has comments posted by Hugh McIntyre. Is this nonsense or did it come from somewhere?

6/12/2006 06:03:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Thrasher: A poster on ITE named Luciey came upon it. It has to do with someone named Easton Ellsworth. A e-mail that Speaker replied to said "he might know something", although anyone can post as Hugh McIntyre.

6/12/2006 06:06:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

It was Thrasher76. He said it camr form insede the experience.com. Sorry if this is in some way a spoiler.

6/12/2006 06:07:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Aaron,

I abandoned it because I am firewalled in at work and don't usually sign on from home...fiancee and all, you know how that is...doing the future husbandly duties and honey dew list...anyway...I see nothing has come up since I left work...As long as we have this post and the future researcher posts I will be fine...you all are a great group of people...thanks for playing along...

Peace & Namaste

6/12/2006 06:08:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

That is true Maven but when I clicke don the Name it took me right to THF website....and I did find it on the inside site...well, someone else did and I followed the clue...

6/12/2006 06:10:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

thrasher: I was following the posting over there about this site. Speaker never said anything about the link to THF. Everyone was anagraming Ellesworth's name. But, as usually, it died off and went nowhere when other things started happening.

6/12/2006 06:13:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Wow, that is pretty freaky...nice job Ant...

6/12/2006 06:14:00 PM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

looks like an old college budy of mine named Ron

6/12/2006 06:15:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Thanks antecedent.

I enjoyed those pics. Don't know what we can get from that though.

6/12/2006 06:16:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

I know, I posted it here right before all the new stuff came about and it died off...I wrote the link down in my lost notebook at work...I just decided to check on things real quick...Talk to you all tomorrow...

Peace & Namaste

6/12/2006 06:16:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Ant: It almost looks like the continent of Africa on his left side. We've had a lot of references to Africa.

6/12/2006 06:17:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

nystingray: I know about THF link on Hugh's name. I was just telling you guys what Speaker said about anyone can sign his name.

6/12/2006 06:19:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Great, Belly! That's how I feel.

6/12/2006 06:30:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

http://www.micropersuasion.com/2006/05/why_boards_domi.html seems to me to be rubbish. It seems to be just another blog but crap. no doubt someone just trying to increase ratings/hits on the site. IMHO that is.

6/12/2006 06:40:00 PM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

the overlayed pics are also on the messageboard http://www.drkdesign.com/cluesmb/viewtopic.php?t=318

6/12/2006 06:42:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

I had mentioned this earlier today, but I think I'll bring it up again.

On the richerdeeperbroader.com website (for Verizon) on the quick link "Feel the Music" there is a blank billboard that has faint writing on it. With my eyes I only can make out "hub" "you" and an arrow pointing down.

I feel this might relate to the DJ Dan podcast since there is a Verizon banner on his Podcast Archives page (although is for "The Road Trip).

Can anyone see anything else here?

6/12/2006 06:46:00 PM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

the verizon banner on the DJDan podcast page has "Atlas" in the sourcecode, I mentioned that on the last podcast thread I know... still can't make anything from it but googling Verizon and Atlas gets old results

6/12/2006 06:51:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

I think we need more than just our eyes to see this billboard. I don't know "computer" too well, so maybe someone out there can isolate this and manipulate it so we can make out what it says.

It might be nothing but an old ad that was up there!

6/12/2006 06:59:00 PM  
Blogger JFray said...

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6/12/2006 06:59:00 PM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

the rss/livejournal updates... on the livejournal one hansofeed it used to have what I imagine was being refered to in the rss feed as an unreadable character... it's now gone from the livejournal page, just when I was going to check up on it. I have a feeling it was a letter from the Greek alphabet... anyone remember what it looked like?

6/12/2006 07:02:00 PM  
Blogger Prometheus said...

http://thehansofoundation.org/images/backgrounds/mha.php

6/12/2006 07:06:00 PM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

you know what? I think it was Phi... think I'll have to go back and read what was being said about Phi in the last comments section...

fee fie fo fum

Jack be nimble
Jack be quick
Jack jump over the Candle Wick

sorry, being silly now

6/12/2006 07:07:00 PM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

ok psyspy, where did that come from? I just get the url on the page though the sourcecode has "crc=23&auth=ahanso"

6/12/2006 07:09:00 PM  
Blogger Prometheus said...

I will now play a sequence of symbols
You will have to remember this sequence and
play it back once i finish
Get an extra Apollo bar from your instructor if you manage to remember more than 42 turns.
READY?
pink
red
green
yellow
blue

6/12/2006 07:16:00 PM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

LOL... I had completely forgotten where those random things had come from

6/12/2006 07:17:00 PM  
Blogger Prometheus said...

anyhow.. you'll get to play with a computer that has 5 colored keys on the keyboard and need to enter the correct colored sequence.

6/12/2006 07:23:00 PM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

has anyone put in djdan at sublymonal before? I'm trying to check back, but just in case

6/12/2006 07:24:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

You go to www.sublymonal.com and type in words. I think everyting tried so far has been not found or a reference from wikipedia. Apart from some that have been found to give something. Check clues for that.

I am off to bed. Again. Good luck you good people. I will try to call upon a dream that will allow me to make sense of all this.

6/12/2006 07:32:00 PM  
Blogger Prometheus said...

the password for MHA isn't coded into the swf file yet but the "goods" are there and it looks like the colors have numbers
pink = 4
red = 8
yellow = 16
green = 23
blue = 42

6/12/2006 07:35:00 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

I have some observations but not much else. The font on the MHA page for "Vik Institute" is different... more childlike. The "Inquire Today" link seems to be formatted differently. On the IGA page the cell pictures are flickering. Maybe it's not new but I haven't noticed it before. When you tab through the links on the page there are three links (non-working at the moment) that I don't recall seeing before. I saw mention of the invisible text box below the picture but not the links. I have to restart my computer now. I have 3 versions of the Hanso Foundation sound running the background that I must stop or I will have to make a mental health appeal.

6/12/2006 07:40:00 PM  
Blogger Lua na Selva said...

if you type timeless together at sublymonal.com the woman will say "perhaps this link is relevant, eternity"

=/

6/12/2006 07:42:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

Hey. Did you know they're apparently running ads for Sublymonal in front of "Cars." It makes sense. They're both Disney.

6/12/2006 07:49:00 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

The links on the cell pics were there as well? Darn! I thought I had more than one fairly recent observation. lol

6/12/2006 07:50:00 PM  
Blogger Prometheus said...

looks like the computer is linked to Department of Heuristics and Research On Material Applications (DHARMA)

6/12/2006 07:50:00 PM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

I've tried eternity, eternal a few times but nothing is working... and I am logged in. Shutting it down and starting at hanso again

6/12/2006 07:52:00 PM  
Blogger Lua na Selva said...

at the center of the rotating annoying tvs... you type and submit

6/12/2006 07:56:00 PM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

louie1, I'd say the computer that we will see once we get into the MHA page properly... or if you decompile the flash or whatever... this clue is proving very frustrating

6/12/2006 08:01:00 PM  
Blogger Prometheus said...

the computer you get to play when you enter the mental health appeal area, they havent coded the "inquire now"..yet
sometime between tonight and wednesday is when you'll have access to it.

6/12/2006 08:03:00 PM  
Blogger Lua na Selva said...

i think you have to click on this one tv to enter the site , i don´t remember, is too noisy, it makes me nuts

6/12/2006 08:04:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

where? I'm on HansoCareers right now. It all looks the same.

6/12/2006 08:04:00 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Was there always a link to http://www.thehansofoundation.org/index.html#section=bios at the bottom of every job posting?

6/12/2006 08:15:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

i dont think that sublymonal is part of the game anymore. if you look at it, it has nothing to do with Hanso, lost or anything.

6/12/2006 08:16:00 PM  
Blogger Lua na Selva said...

izzyjman, it seems your computer has a problem. If you enter the site it will load and appear the tv with a sprite, then it will naturally load the noisy page with televisions rotating and a place where you can input codes and submit in the center


did i make sense? i´m sleepy

6/12/2006 08:18:00 PM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

nysting, key to what?

so, this is a case of find things out of order? we will get the MHA password from DJDan or the ROT messageboard if it is updated on Wednesday like they seem to...

6/12/2006 08:18:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

hey nysting. that ARG monitor is cool. i've never even heard of it before. it could be useful

6/12/2006 08:27:00 PM  
Blogger Prometheus said...

i put up some screenshots of the what you'll be able to access later on
http://psyspy.blogspot.com/

6/12/2006 08:28:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

psyspy. look at the computer screen in the 4th image.

who's tommy?

6/12/2006 08:30:00 PM  
Blogger Prometheus said...

tommy //32 is the computer name

6/12/2006 08:31:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

oh. i thought it was a clue or something.
oh well.

6/12/2006 08:32:00 PM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

except there is no djdan wiki entry... could be different to our djdan though it seems odd

6/12/2006 08:55:00 PM  
Blogger Prometheus said...

louie1 said... psyspy: ok, i give --- the screen shots of the computer, where did they come from?

from within mha.swf
and on a side note maximusdb3 was talking about a "Mythic Beast" at dj dan site
it is a relevant clue as that beast will be appearing sometime on lost.
Its called Mapinguari
Might be a password? who knows..
more info related to the creature directly from lost is known as the lost manuscript located here
http://photos1.blogger.com/img/105/5037/1024/lostmanuscript.jpg

6/12/2006 09:35:00 PM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

angie, I commented on them, but noone seemed to make anything of it. I've commented on "Atlas" in the sourcecode for the Verizon add linked from the DJDan podcast page, but they may be just redherrings

6/12/2006 09:43:00 PM  
Blogger Prometheus said...

not a fake, was originally found at http://www.oceanic-air.com/ and is from series co-creator J. J. Abrams.
just something keep in your mental rolodex since dj dan updated hes page with the creature.

6/12/2006 09:58:00 PM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

yes, it was posted earlier... but I'm not reading it till we can use the password and get to it properly

6/12/2006 10:14:00 PM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

acts input what you see here persephone's page into Dec/Char translater

6/12/2006 10:54:00 PM  
Blogger Dennis said...

ubudes said...

718-___-1400 / the ___ is either 427 or 477

I played around with the billboard (at http://www.richerdeeperbroader.com/) in photoshop, and the number looks to me like

718-777-1400

A google Search for the phone number turns up:

Star One Medical Staffing of NY Inc
Staffing experienced Medical Professionals (all specialties) for hospital and private practices. Ask about our super saving bulk-rate plans.
(718) 777-1400

The rest of the text reads:

If you lived here ... You'd be home already

This is a typical apartment/condo advertisement saying.


Move along people. Nothing to see here.

6/12/2006 10:56:00 PM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

I think the letter and computer screen are what we are supposed to get to once the password works on the MHA page... it doesn't seem to be unlocked yet. And still no DJDan podcast! What was shaping as a big day has been a big wait. Good thing I have a few hours before bedtime ;-D

6/12/2006 11:32:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Thanks to everyone who worked on the billboard thing. Sorry it seems to be a deadend. I just thought it was worth a shot.

omniscient: I was reading all the posts over at ITE, and it was getting really nasty over there again. I think you should post the reference. It's not really giving away too much.

6/12/2006 11:35:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

There's a thread on the tailsection where someone was directed to a yousendit.com site after finding it in THF flash file, but was having trouble loading it and listening to it. They're asking for some help with it. I think they need morse code. It's under NEW CLUE NEED HELP DECIPHERING.

6/13/2006 12:15:00 AM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

Hi everyone...been really sick today (go figure with all the updates) and just getting caught up to speed!

My hubby has been playing around with BOTH unsolved pics. On the new one, he did get what looks like it could be a face??? Not sure if its just an optical illusion or what. He took it and zoomed out and it produced this...

click here

6/13/2006 12:17:00 AM  
Blogger maven said...

Hi, Lena. Hope you're feeling better. We've all got a giant headache!

6/13/2006 12:20:00 AM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

LOL thanks maven, I have an outlined pic to show what may or may NOT maybe a skull or face??

GRASPING AT STRAWS MOST LIKELY!! What the heck right?? :)

click here

6/13/2006 12:24:00 AM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

lena... my first thought is Voldemort side on, LOL

I think we have the clue thanks to persephone and sublymonal... could be wrong, time till tell (as always), I think it's a case of the MHA page hasn't been fully updated yet or something

and you know what? First that countdown clue went off early and now it seems DJDan's podcast is late... someone is having fun with time, or the perception of it at any rate

6/13/2006 12:36:00 AM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

I meant I think we have the password... ~*proofread*~

6/13/2006 12:39:00 AM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

Looked up Vic Iceland and found neat website about it. It is a SMALL village!

click here

6/13/2006 01:03:00 AM  
Blogger Bigdog said...

Maybe we don't hva e a new update from DJ Dan because of the last podcast with the threat from that person maybe something has happened to the DJ.

6/13/2006 01:51:00 AM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

Thats GOT to have SOMETHING to do with it...but doubt it can be that simple...there IS more to this podcast missing...I can FEEL it.

6/13/2006 02:03:00 AM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

Ok, I gotta go lay down again...got a WICKED cold (besides the other health probs).

Good night, and hopefully something neat will happen just as well all check on here in the morning!!

Lena

6/13/2006 02:20:00 AM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

Oh yah, just a reminder real quick.

Go check out my blogs on my profile. Also, if anyone wants to be a member of any of those blogs, just email me. My email is also on my blog, just remember to put something about the blogs in the subject line so I know to watch for ya!

Goodnight again...

6/13/2006 02:22:00 AM  
Blogger Joseph Finchum said...

I have seen mention of people anagraming the titles of the 3 pics from the hole links and I did the same. minus the #s.

all I get that makes any sense to me is...

Clan Engage Quest

any one make anything of this?

6/13/2006 02:43:00 AM  
Blogger Prometheus said...

i get LANG TAG SEQUENCE

6/13/2006 03:19:00 AM  
Blogger Prometheus said...

LANG TAG SEQUENCE
pointing to the probability that the pw is in the source code somewhere.

6/13/2006 03:21:00 AM  
Blogger The Truth Tempest said...

I'm pretty sure everyone is dead. DJ Dan. Persephone. Even the Speaker.

We're all dead.

Dead inside.

...

Curse you Hanso Foundation!

-The Truth Tempest
lol. Just saying I'm back.

6/13/2006 03:55:00 AM  
Blogger The Truth Tempest said...

So, anyway, on to business.

The new Hole4 has nothing necessarily hidden behind it. At least not in layers or frames or anything. It is two flat grey colors.

Despite such forboding statements, not all is lost!

I noticed a while back that the Hole pictures were using specific grey colors. They are by no means random.

In the newest picture, only two colors are used. Two shades of grey, of course.

The color code of main grey is: 666666

I feel it is no coincidence that in each Hole picture, that specific shade of grey 666666 is being used for the content.

What does it mean? I can't be certain. But I believe it means something.

Regardless, the picture sure as heck looks like Henry Gale. I looked at it and in one second thought of him.

Fun, ain't it?

-The Truth Tempest
Say hello to my little friend! The Lost Experience.

6/13/2006 04:00:00 AM  
Blogger The Truth Tempest said...

oh yeah. The "Inquire Today" on MHA is "timing out" super quick now. Much quicker than in the past.

This leads me to believe that it is trying to get a password instead of just being a staller for so longer.

Timeless together doesn't work, but lets try all sorts of things!!

-The Truth Tempest
Mental Health Appeal?
I got your Mental Health Appeal right here, baby.

6/13/2006 04:06:00 AM  
Blogger The Truth Tempest said...

Interesting thoughts.

All I can say is...

Reason to Die.


Cheers!

-The Truth Tempest
Anagram for THE TEMPTRUST

6/13/2006 05:29:00 AM  
Blogger The Truth Tempest said...

It's all morse code!

A test!

Shed light on.

You have got it!

Phones and Perses abound in the back of my DJ Van.

6/13/2006 05:32:00 AM  
Blogger The Truth Tempest said...

Sometimes the best way to look is backwards.

Hear the ear and inquire within.

Good day to you.

Namaste.

6/13/2006 05:40:00 AM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

question... have we been given the means legitimately to solve this, or are people just getting it by trial and error?

6/13/2006 06:16:00 AM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

other than those who have cheated

6/13/2006 06:17:00 AM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

and pharma, this time they don't seem to be sharing. Which is fine I'd rather figure it out, but it'd be nice to know if we have what we need to figure it out or we still need to look/wait for something

6/13/2006 06:25:00 AM  
Blogger Prometheus said...

Anyways the images and "Timeless Together" clues have been solved.

starts off in this manner..
"Timeless Together" means:
time-less (take the time/dates out eg; 2002/1975/1986)
together (put the remaining letters/numbers together)
file names..

hole2/q9als2002
hole3/t9agen75
hole4/u8egence86

9a appear at same place on h2+h3
gen appear at same place on h3+h4
take out "9agen"
replace following numbers to letters
8=h
9=i
leaves you with qialstuhegence = A LIGHT SEQUENCE
(A LIGHT SEQUENCE) is a clue that is used when you gain access to the computer located in MHA area.
The password is still unknown and not yet coded.
Credit should go to JustWillow from insidetheexperience.com
I orginally thought the file names anagrammed to LANG TAG SEQUENCE

6/13/2006 06:34:00 AM  
Blogger High Power Rocketry said...

: )

6/13/2006 06:42:00 AM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

psyspy... well that spoiled that

6/13/2006 06:47:00 AM  
Blogger Prometheus said...

not really..we still dont know what the actual password is if there will even be one.
i just know A LIGHT SEQUENCE is correct.

6/13/2006 06:54:00 AM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

At least we had already thought of using the filenames together and it wasn't cheating that got this. I still don't know how we can be sure of it although it sounds very plausible. Maybe "a light sequence" is another clue to be solved and not a password at all. Anyway. I will try to give more thought but am at work at the moment. I still think that possibly what we are meant to get from all this is the DJDan podcast (if he is alive and free that is)

6/13/2006 07:02:00 AM  
Blogger Dr3dPir8 said...

darn... couldn't take a peek yesterday and I missed all the fun. I thought I had at least until today before they let loose another clue. psyspy - thanks for the "summary" on this. Have we still not gotten into the page? If we have I won't bother, but if not, I'll see what I can find on "A LIGHT SEQUENCE"... perhaps something to do with light therapy? Don't know yet.

6/13/2006 07:08:00 AM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

I don't think it game related but I came across this from the channel4 TLE page (UK) where the UK's equivalent of the speaker is.

I only mention is because I hadn't seen it and I think it is fun. A bit like the clues we have been getting in TLE but more on the Lost series.

Sorry if people find this irrelevant.

http://www.channel4.com/entertainment/tv/microsites/L/lost/main.html

6/13/2006 07:26:00 AM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

How did you get LIGHT SEQUENCE AGAIN? Why is it this?

6/13/2006 07:28:00 AM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

it's the anacronym of DHARMA

6/13/2006 07:58:00 AM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

acronym... and now the Lost blog sites are having problems!

6/13/2006 08:20:00 AM  
Blogger Prometheus said...

wizardry_eas said... How did you get LIGHT SEQUENCE AGAIN? Why is it this?
Same method as i mentioned above except,
hole4 is: u8egnce86 and not
u8egence86

tried it again tho a different way.. and i got

AGAIN LIGHT SEQUENCE or
LIGHT SEQUENCE AGAIN

JustWillow

6/13/2006 08:32:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Ouch! That really hurt my brain this early in the morning with no coffee....great work to all...

Peace & Namaste

6/13/2006 09:11:00 AM  
Blogger Dr3dPir8 said...

This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

6/13/2006 09:23:00 AM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

I am on 48. This is mad. If I go to 108 for nothing I will commit suicide.

6/13/2006 09:24:00 AM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Well I would like to keep my life intact. Sorry.

6/13/2006 09:27:00 AM  
Blogger Dr3dPir8 said...

pharmacopaeia - thanks for the transcript. A couple of phrases stick out at me- "prisoner in a hall of mirrors" and "secret program of experimentation taking place under my own nose". The first simply because it doesn't quite seem to fit and because mirror images have been used often in the series. The second because we've been given similar phrases in the game in the pase (i.e. "What are they trying to hide right under our noses" from the ROT website).

6/13/2006 09:28:00 AM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Problem Is partly I am at work and so I wouldn't be able to get to 108 in time.

6/13/2006 09:28:00 AM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

it is random. I had a customer come into my shop at 29 and I had to start again.

6/13/2006 09:31:00 AM  
Blogger Dr3dPir8 said...

sorry pharma - I guess I had that in my head and just saw what I expected to see. I removed the comment to avoid confusion.

6/13/2006 09:31:00 AM  
Blogger Dr3dPir8 said...

Does anyone have a copy of the picture on hole4 from yesterday? I have a copy of the one up now, but it says it was modified/created at 6:44am today. I'd like to get a copy of the earliest showing if possible.

6/13/2006 09:35:00 AM  
Blogger Dr3dPir8 said...

dave - if you click on the text in the upper left corner of the MHA page (brightes lighs area) it will bring up the text box. In the box put in "light sequence again" and click next. This may work through the "Inquire Today" link as well, but I just tried the "hidden" link.

6/13/2006 09:37:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Wiz, no need to harm yourself...

6/13/2006 09:40:00 AM  
Blogger sean said...

OH MAN! I WAS SO CLOSE!!!! I ACCIDENTLY DIDN'T CLICK ON A COLOR WHEN I THOUGHT I DID. I GOT REALLY FAR TOO. I WAS UP TO #34!!!

6/13/2006 09:50:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

oo7, what is your email? You can email me instead of postnig it here, mine is on my profile...I have the image from yesterday right as it came out...

6/13/2006 09:50:00 AM  
Blogger sean said...

does anything happen when you get farther. I'd start over, but i'm just too frustrated.

AAAARRRGGGGHHHH!!!!!
I WASTED ALMOST HALF AN HOUR AND I MESSED UP.

6/13/2006 09:53:00 AM  
Blogger Dr3dPir8 said...

rich - in order, the covered words are "Zambia", "More", "Soon", "Steevo"

6/13/2006 10:05:00 AM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

the sequence may be different for everyone logging on my sequence up to 42 was

GYYPYBGBYRBRGGYGGGRBGRGGRGYYYPRRGGYRBYYRRB

this is a different sequence than that listed previously by another.

I stopped at 42 I have GOT to get some work done.

6/13/2006 10:21:00 AM  
Blogger sean said...

just write the colors down as they come up. it's impossible to remember it.

6/13/2006 10:21:00 AM  
Blogger sean said...

foofish, i tried the game once without writing them down and i barely made it past 10. maybe i just have a bad memory.

what was i saying again?

6/13/2006 10:27:00 AM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

unless you have a photographic memory, or are some type of autistic idiot savant you HAVE to write down the sequence.

6/13/2006 10:29:00 AM  
Blogger sean said...

is there some way you can speed the sequence up. i don't mind memorizing hundreds of colors and symbols, it's just taking to long.

6/13/2006 10:31:00 AM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

the comments in clue 50 needs to be changed as JustWillow did not decompile the flash to get the password. And you get Department of Heuristics and Research on Material Application (as already stated by a couple of others here)

6/13/2006 10:33:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Heuristic is originally derived from the Greek "heurisko" (ευρίσκω, the verb from which Archimedes's famous exclamation of "eureka" was derived), which roughly means "I found".

Straight from Wiki...more greek references...

Peace & Namaste

6/13/2006 10:37:00 AM  
Blogger sean said...

what can the material application be referring to? It's obvious now that the Huristics refer to discovery.

6/13/2006 10:40:00 AM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

I agree Belly!

6/13/2006 10:47:00 AM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

is there still no DJ Dan Podcast?

6/13/2006 10:54:00 AM  
Blogger sean said...

this might sound crazy, but would the apollo bar be a clue to something?

6/13/2006 11:02:00 AM  
Blogger Dr3dPir8 said...

thank you lostnuts - the article is a valid one from an official ABC site. It also mentions that it is designed for both Lost fans, and those who have never seen lost. So, even though it is giving us insight/information on the show, it is not required to have seen the show to play the game. I guess that means that they are connected, but making the connections is not required to play the game... almost a "one way street" relationship. -IMHO, just my 2 cents.

6/13/2006 11:04:00 AM  
Blogger Dr3dPir8 said...

sean - the Apollo Bar makes an appearance on the series. It is one of the DHARMA "rations" found in the hatch and some of us Lost fans believe it is a huge reference to Greek mythology as Apollo was one of the Greek gods. Especially since he had a twin - Artemis (BTW - Artemis was definitely the "bad twin"). This may play out more in the game later... I personally really hope so.

6/13/2006 11:07:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Is it me but why would the Swan 'brand' a shark? How do sharks navigate? Do they use electromagnetics? Just seems like a more fitting for the work on gene therapy and extreme climate change to bring on accelerated De-territorialization...which is CVIII? Looking at the map, drawing straws...

6/13/2006 11:09:00 AM  
Blogger sean said...

oh yeah. i forgot that part. thanks 007.

6/13/2006 11:10:00 AM  
Blogger Dr3dPir8 said...

np sean.
thrasher - that's a good point about the shark. I'm not sure how they navigate, but I do recall from some Discovery Channel show (or National Geographic?) that sharks do have special sensors for electric pulses. From what I recall, they had a lot of problems when first trying to keep sharks in captivity since they used metal bands on their holding tanks. These metal bands somehow held an electric charge, and the sharks would continuously bang into them. Not sure of the relevance, but maybe could jog some thoughts. (?)

6/13/2006 11:15:00 AM  
Blogger Perminisconious said...

For some reason, I can't get the password to work. I have clicked both on the 'Inquire Today!' link and the 'hidden' link, and I get the text box, and no matter what I put in, I get 'Sorry connection timed out.' I've tried capitalization, removing spaces, multiple entries, and switching the order, and still nothing. =( Is there any significance to the fact that you can start on one of two lines in the text box?

6/13/2006 11:18:00 AM  
Blogger Dr3dPir8 said...

lostnuts - I agree that they are definitely trying to drive up interest in the show (and I'm sure they have). Notice though, that they are making money off the game seperately by bringing sponsors in just for the game - Sprite, Verizon, Monster, Jeep, and more to come I'm sure. I'm guessing Google will be in here somewhere, now that they are a public company, I'm sure they are looking to advertise.

6/13/2006 11:18:00 AM  
Blogger Dr3dPir8 said...

permi - when I logged in, I typed in all lower case on the top line. I don't know if it makes a difference, but I hope you can get in. I think everyone should have to face the aneurysm inducing sequence game. ;)

6/13/2006 11:20:00 AM  
Blogger Brad said...

I can assume from the comments that at 42, it doesn't stop and take you back to the Hanso page.

All the other flash sequences end when they take you back to the hanso site. Why should this one be any different?

My thought is that if it didn't end, then the next stop on the "bus" is 108.

*I only made it to 34 before I slipped. It's up to more patient minds than I to finish it.

6/13/2006 11:23:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

007: I agree, everyone must face the simon game, I did it for like 10 minutes and my head hurt so I gave up, I think I was at 25 or so...talk about draining...

6/13/2006 11:23:00 AM  
Blogger Freeman said...

Nice to see that Dharma and the show are finally being wholeheartedly introduced. I'm curious if we'll see any of the show's actual characters interlaced here.

And frankly, the reveal of what DHARMA stands for is a pretty big day in Lost Fandom. At least, in terms of the mythology.

6/13/2006 11:25:00 AM  
Blogger SweetScrapper said...

permi-make sure you are consistent with your use of either www.thehansofoundation.org or http://thehansofoundation.org. Use whichever one you have used since the newsletter clue.

Also, do you think we'll find out anything else from the retrieversoftruth.com site? They had mentioned posting things on Wed., but I don't see anything new over there.

SweetScrapper

6/13/2006 11:25:00 AM  
Blogger Dr3dPir8 said...

sweets - I think we will see something else from RoT, but I'm guessing that they are basing on U.S. time and will be updating tomorrow. It's still Tues. in the states.

6/13/2006 11:27:00 AM  
Blogger Perminisconious said...

Thanks for the input oo7 and sweetscrapper. I'm still having trouble getting it though. =(

I checked the newsletter page, and I'm still logged in (P's still having her fun drawing all over the page there), so I go to the MHA page, click on either of the two links, then put in 'light sequence again' (no quotes, of course) into the text box, and click next. I get the timeout message, and the window goes away. Is this the proper procedure (aside from the timeout message and the window sliding away, naturally)?

6/13/2006 11:29:00 AM  

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