Clue #51 - Persephone (18) Magic Word & DJDan
Go to the Electromagnetic Research Inititative page on the Hanso Foundation site and click the picture. A message from Persephone pops up asking for the magic word. If you look closely, you can also see the faint image of a radio tower in the "early morning" picture. The magic word is "conspiraspies". Inside you'll find info about the Vik Institute and other fascinating insights. Click the word "offshore" and it will link you to DJDan's site.
Oddly enough...everything is inter-connected...There is also a new DJDan podcast up and it points you to Retrievers of Truth. However, on DJDan's site, if you click on the radio tower image on the homepage (the same one that faintly appeared on the ERI page), it will take you to http://www.thehansofoundation.org/swf/extra/spies/ where you will find a static-looking picture which says "conspira" hidden within.
Thanks to Evil^^, Thrasher 76, Keith, Antecedent, Crossfade, and BetterThanClay
269 Comments:
Does it lock up for you once you are done with this clue, or am I just doing something wrong?
Leisure Jack: I get the same problem. Is this a browser bug, or is there more to this?
westendgirl29: I clicked through the entire thing, got back to the persephone prompt, and then couldn't click anything afterwards.
Wow, check the forums linked to this site. I posted all the answers there before this blog was up.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v88/milkyecho/conspira.jpg
Transcript of the letter for those who can't read it:
-SPOILERS for people who haven't found the clue-
…believe this is something we can both agree on
Dr. Mittlework, in recent years my honorable government has turned a blind eye to the questionable activities of your off-shore research station due to the lucrative business partnerships the Hanso Group has offered the proud people of this nation. Your joint venture in the Paik Motors, for example, is a matter of great national pride, and we wish to continue doing that level of business with your firm.
However, I need to present my superiors with an accounting of your activities. Since the construction of your offshore antenna, we have had numerous disruptions in the local telecommunications infrastructure, the navigational systems of our fishing fleets and ever our ability to access our satellites from the area appear to have been impaired.
Additionally, we have begun to receive reports of deformed fish and other aberrant changes in the wildlife around your electromagnetic research facility. Given this, it is simply impossible for me to continue to tell my government that your research is outside of our national interest.
My influence in parliament is not unlimited. If this scandal over your off-shore antenna project reaches a national scale, I fear the Hanso Group’s fiduciary role will be severely crippled, and your multi-million dollar research venture may be forced into open international waters or even fired upon by naval units.
Consider this warning to be light in ______, but weighty in its urgency. I require a response within the next 48 hours, or I shall be forces to take up the matter with my superiors.
Regard, (signature)
Hoo-Gon Choi
Ministry of _____________
srsizzy, in your earlier post, were you expressing frustration that we didn't give you credit? You said: "Wow, check the forums linked to this site. I posted all the answers there before this blog was up."
First I want to say, WAY TO GO! I'm so sorry if you don't feel like you got the credit you deserved. I hate it when that happens. I wish you would have emailed us so we could have gotten it up earlier.
Second, Just wanted to make sure everyone knew that the 3 of us cannot possible be responsible for having our eyes everywhere at one time and always giving credit to the first person in the world who found something. Mostly we acknowledge the people that send us emails unless we happen to be reading the comments or message board at that specific time. Message to all: Please remember to email us with anything pertinent!
As always - we are grateful to be participating in this game with such great people and we are greatly disturbed if we feel like we've offended anybody. Srsizzy...are we cool?
So, has anyone figured out how to hear the new DJ Dan podcast? I've looked all over the Doggie site and can't find it.
SweetScrapper
where is the podcast on the retrievers of truth site?
Nice one. Another bunch of stuff.
My clue ended up by locking up too. AND I CANNOT get the simon says machine back.
Conspira did come from a MAGIC EYE picture. Damn. I am good at them but came along too late.
Seems that the most current puzzle is finding this DJDan podcast. Well that is what I am going to do anyway.
Thanks for all the info and good luck with this.
Desmond's girlfriend is Penelope, not Persephone. Unless she is using an alias.
SweetScrapper
lostluvr29:
You can get the tower in the pictures at the bottom of the MAIN page for DJDans site here.
The use of the word animus could mean hatred or animosity, but it could also relate to Carl Jung's Anima/Animus concept. Animus to Jung means the unconscious male attributes and potentials in an unconscious of a woman. May be too deep for game purposes, but just thought I'd pass it along since the game is full of philosophical references.
I've been anticipating a Magic Eye puzzle. I can't count the number of times I've stared at the Hole2 image thinking it could possibly be a Magic Eye type puzzle or some variant. I suck at those things anyway. Thank God for the internet or I'd be staring at black and white dots for weeks.
To explain the magic eye a little may help you to see it but it may not.
The idea with a magic eye (aka stereogram) is that there is something that you cannot see in the image under normal focus. ie just looking at it. You have to "focus" on a spot behind the picture. eg pretend your monitor is a window. If you were looking at a window you would be focused on it. You would clearly see any stains/marks on the window. Now if you instead focus on an object in the distance eg a tree you are looking in the same direction but you are no longer focused on the window. If the windows was a magic eye picture then you may see the hidden message at this point.
However with a monitor it is not so easy to focus on a point beyond (behind the screen) because there is no such real physical point to focus on, but this is what you must do. Try looking to the side of the monitor and on a point in the distance (if you can) and then move your point of view to the pic on the monitor but keeping that distant focus. You will not see anything right away but if you try and maintain that focus you will hopefully slip into the correct focus needed to see the hidden message.
By the way. I found this one quite hard due to the dimentions of the pic (the rest of the stuff on my monitor made it harder for me to focus on the text.
As a by the way, another way you can do it is instead of focusing into the distance you could go cross eyed (the opposite: this would be focusing on a point closer than the pic). The resulting hidden message is not as clear but you can still make it out.
Just posted this in case another magic eye came up and I hoped it may help someone. If not I am sorry for wasting your time with this long post.
Thanks "administrator", I wasn't saying that I had found it all first, because some of it was help from other people/me find the same stuff as other people at the same time (ie, we all found the same clues at the same time), so it's all good. I was just saying that the answers had been posted up already, with all the images and such, and people should check the forums sometimes. I'll email stuff in the future.
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srsizzy, cool. Just so everyone knows...we don't pretend to be the first at ANYTHING. It is really fun for all of us to try to solve the clues together and we love doing it. We post as quickly as we find stuff but nobody can be on top all the time unless they are being fed "official" info (i.e. Speaker).
Our goal here is just to 1. Keep all the clues organized, clear, chronological (as they are given) and concise and 2.provide a friendly forum for interaction and ideas.
lostluv29>
The pic of DJ Dan's radio tower with the static can be found on the ERI portion of THF.org... The pic with the x: y: coordinates changes into the tower/static pic when you click on it... Being able to click it is new today...
FYI: I'm working on a laptop and the "conspira" message is really easy to see if I angle the screen way back (almost flat). It's way more difficult to see if you stare at it directly and try to "look through it".
Shaun316,
I know that Speaker, Ninja, & UK Blogger are "insiders" b/c I've emailed with all of them individually. We chatted about having them on the podcast. In a nutshell, they couldn't do it because they're "backers" said they couldn't. Speaker spoke on behalf of all 3. Essentially, they weren't allowed to promote a non-affiliated site. Best I could gather though, they each have different "levels" of connectedness...meaning, they don't all get the same information all the time. Speaker gets the most & the best...then Ninja...then UK Blogger (she is probably the least dedicated of the 3 and most out of the loop).
They are all also "players" in the game. I'm pretty sure Speaker only receives information meaning he is not one of the "creators" of the game. I could be wrong on this...
nystingray, I agree. There is definitely something fishy going on with the Persephone & DJDan connection. The questions are and always have been: Can we really trust their information? Are they really who they say they are? If THF is so powerful, why would they let them get away with their antics as long as they have?
All we have now are best guesses & hunches based on great, detailed observations like yours...
BellyOfDesire, my new pic is co-workers/friends named Braun & Melissa. Braun is the funniest person I know and Melissa is the best advice giver. I post under 2 profiles and this is one I don't usually use. The pic was taken in Breckenridge CO on a ski trip. Okay...so now everyone knows that I can't stay away from the Rockies. :)
Quit the Tommy game. It will drive you mad. After hitting 45, I have reverted to a pre-kindergarten education and must now re-learn my colors. Good thing my wife's a kindergarten teacher! (I'm full of personal info this afternoon!)
Matt,
What do you make of it? Shout out to the fans?
belly0fdesire said...
seems to be just a crazy coincidence,
Don't mistake coincidence for fate.
I just commented on ITE and asked JustWillow to email me. Hopefully she'll email and we'll either get to the bottom of this or invite a good clue solver into our fold.
shaun 316, TPTB stands for "The Powers that Be" and refers to the creators/operators of the game.
Thanks matt...waiting for your results. We should all probably learn how to decompile flash now. As a back-up...just as a back up. :)
Admin... I can give you a tutorial on decompling the flash - it's not too complicated, you just need the right tool and to know where to look.
I can decompile today's clue right now and tell you what I see (if you trust me...)
Just asked justwillow to email again in the ITE forum. Still nothing. Expecting imposters soon. So glad you guys have registered screen names here. ITE is kind of a mess right now. Glad you guys are so civil & friendly.
Gotta run soon. Bummed.
BellyOfDesire is right. I have no way of searching usernames.
I found justwillow.blogspot.com
Dead end. Random. I thought JustWillow was a girl. Still no email...and where the heck is DJDan's podcast?
I thought matt the pale was decompiling to verify. Matt, where are you?
Well, I just looked throght the flash code, and "JustWillow" is definitely there:
For those that want to look for themselves (and not see anything else):
Look in the content_magnetic[1].swf, Sprite 80 in the Action folder, Line 24:
_loc1.key = "nPZfYQGwWBF/ILasdsgeJustWillow_securergksqhq_IFG6I78hIDCp2HlpEOBPdKlafwQ7TzQwJNdjA";
justwillow is not the same as that on the blogspot. She had tried to log on here, but didn't BECAUSE someone had already taken her name.
Matt The Pale...
I copy the SWF files out of the Temporary Internet Files Directory (assuming you are using windows and IE).
It is usually located at (where USERNAME is your user name):
C:\Documents and Settings\USERNAME\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files
Click the type column to sort by type, then scroll down to the Shockwave Flash Objects types.
You should see all of the cached flash files. Just copy the one you want to open to another directory (i.e. desktop), and open it from there.
belly0fdesire said...
I just accidentally hit the wrong button at 66 times through that Simon game and I'm going to go hang myself now.
Are you going for level 108? If so, you are my hero!
nystingray...
It take you to the same place as when you click the 6/08 podcast link.
Hello!
Very Good your Blog.
Please,visit my Blog:
http://www.danigrilo.blogger.com.br
Ass:Daniela
Oops...Accidentally posted a second ago as "therealwillow" (was trying to help her get a username over here to prove her innocence)
"bowzbiseosms said...Praise God for moderators who delete whatever comments they see fit. Hallelujah."
I don't mind being mocked for being a religious person but please don't do it anonymously. I deleted your previous post for a few reasons: 1) It wasn't even remotely game related and was inappropriate for this forum. 2) It was personally hurtful and since you had no profile, I could not privately respond to ask you not to post in such a manner again.
Glad you feel comfortable enough to let me know how you feel. Please email me if you have a personal vendetta we could work out. I would love to know if I did anything to stir up your sarcasm and would love to ask your forgiveness if I need to.
I'll leave the above mentioned post but know that, in the future, as we see them, we will do our best to delete non-game-related comments.
Sorry everyone else had to read this.
JustWillow emailed and I'm emailing back.
Welcome Katamarmom!
I was hoping that belly would do the 108. If noone has done it by tomorrow I will give it a try tomorrow (9 hrs from now). Goddamit. Unless the DJDan podcast has been found as this is what I would be doing it for.
no response here either. I cannot help but feel the verizon site here is the key. It has been mentioned before but we got caught up in justwillow. It was mentioned that when doing certain things that other things would happen. like "hub" coming up on a billboard (I think that someone had mentioned in the previous comments what the full message said but I am not sure). I am off to bed but this would have been my next place to look for clues to the ROT site.
Wow, people are still arguing about decompiling flash? That's really said, because this "JustWillow" thing is incredibly unimportant, and doesn't have anything to do with finding the podcast...the place is like a playground with little kids sometimes.
I'm sure it's been said before but seriously...What if you have to get to 108 to listen to the DJDan podcast? Whoever does it will have to record it or transcribe it uber-quickly or something.
Just got an email from justwillow. She is an actual person. See pics here:
http://www.last.fm/user/justwillow/
http://curzed.asgards.org/album/thumbnails.php?album=search&type=full&search=willow
She seems kinda upset about the ID questioning/theft. I think she's clean. Wonder why TPTB would mess with her like that? Probably just trying to give her a shout out and didn't realize that it'd get messy. Shouldn't they know better...
srsizzy...we're all multitasking here. I'm concerned about the DJDan podcast too but I think it is a good thing to help others out. I had a hunch that justwillow was an innocent "victim" after reading through ITE comments. She seemed miffed and even scared by all the attention. I just wanted to get a definitive answer and help her clear her name.
TPTB did a weird shout out. I think we're over it but you must admit...it WAS weird. You're right, probably not important, but weird...
I gotta go home now but I hope we find DJDan!
I was just commenting on how half this page if full of comments about this "Justwillow" thing, and my opinion on it is "JustShutUp".
Maybe this has come up already (too many comments to read them all) but what's the deal with the freaky picture of Mr. Bole on the RoT site? Something's very wrong with his face.
srsizzy
:)
Okay. We'll shut up about it. Hope you're not too upset. Are we cool?
Bye everyone. Had fun today. Great job.
that happened to me too fitz. But then, i just reloaded the page.
i guess on some browsers, it just takes longer.
fitz--try clearing out your temporary internet files, cookies, etc. You may need to re-log in through the newsletter, but that should solve your issues (it did for me on this one).
it seems like the ROT site is broken every other day. The e-mai system almost never works for me.
I have been looking at verizon and feel there is nothing there. Could be wrong though.
I now think (I know, I should be going to bed) that the latest clue (which is where "crucial force came from minipulator) is likely to behold the key to this (or that damned machine getting 108 consecutive goes). It hasn't really been discussed much eg images, words etc. Only briefly touched on. That letter that was found might be the clue or the strange numbers on the two papers you click on (were there any numbers/designation on the DV tape?). Or anything. Surely.
I really must go to bed now.
Goodnight.
And GOOD LUCK belly0fdesire. (Praying)
And I haven't heard from lena in a while. I do hope she is ok.
Has the link from DJ Dan's 06/13 podcast always gone directly to the Verizon forum?
katamarmom and justwillow: glad to see you are over here now. ITE just gets soooo crazy with all the silliness. Welcome.
When I click on 06/13 I get straight to the Verizon forum, not ROT. Has it always been that way? I think we're going to have to wait until the employees start their Wednesday chat.
it seems like whatever you type into the email box at ROT, you're sent to the home page.
"maven said...
When I click on 06/13 I get straight to the Verizon forum, not ROT. Has it always been that way? I think we're going to have to wait until the employees start their Wednesday chat."
That's because "porter" thing is in your chache/cookies. You have to delete all things related to RoT in order to see the RoT instead of the forum.
I've been checking around richerdeeperbroader.com to no avail. Last night we thought there was something on the billboard in "Feels the Music" link. Went nowhere.
the "crucial force" is mentioned in the top right scrollable text area of the ERI page, which would be why Persephone mentioned it. I think a few people have been confused about where she got it from, it's significance etc...
With the ROT site and it's messageboard, once I enter 'porter' into the email bit and go to the messageboard if I try viewing the mainpage again I can't untill I haven't been active on the messageboard section for a good while (I've never actually timed it, but about half an hour)... it's a little annoying, but they have the same url
srsizzy: I cleared by cache, but still going directly to the Verizon forum. Oh well.
well, obviously on the growth pic, you have the infamous 815.
minipulator I saw your post... but I usually have a few other things I can do in the mean time and I hate having to go through all sorts of things again because of a cleared cache... I save that for the last resort
had a thought... anyone tried "magic eye-ing" the hole pics? Haven't tried playing with the supposed new hole4 pic yet either
better than clay:
Thank you. I was one of the people who made the mistake of calling it "magic eye". I was mis-informed and appreciate the correction.
the "(not) magic eye" thing didn't work when i inverted the colors.
completely confused said...
"ie: the back of the "Satellite Interference" said #B067 and on the front of this same picture it had numbers and letters on left side - what I could make out was:
#10 184200 N0516-88PP..1H66 NE E7R.E"
"1H66 NE E7R.E" actually looks like a library call number, for books. Just a random observation.
completely, I was going to go back and write them down and see what I could make of them, other than as sean pointed out 815 :)
Hoo-Gon Choi google search LOL
speaking of "crucial force" - a "force" is also mentioned in THF RSS feed page. But there it says "...there is still much to learn about this fundamental force...." And that's what the ERI is supposed to be investigating, so it says.
i don't know if it makes any difference, but that might be the other place that some of you have read about the "force."
btw.. I've been reading here for a while, but this will be my first time posting :)
it worked. thanks clay.
someone mentioned an updated hole4 pic being up... so I have been playing with the old and new and cannot find any differences... no pixels out of place, same shades of grey, same dimensions, same filesize. So I don't know why they put up a new one
nysting... I think they expect us to find it before then... I hear talk of it being found, but still looking myself
did we ever find the DJ Dan podcast? sorry there are just a lot of comments on this page
What about the weird dates and names on the Hanso site?
"Early morning hours of October 62, 9291"
and
"Bad Salzdetfurth"?
nojuice, where was the Bad Salzdetfurth reference? Seems it is a real place map
yakobus, maybe... but when we first went to ROT the latest thread seemed to be before the Wednesday... and it's already Wednesday here :-P
does the hole4 pic tie into dj dan at all do we think?
i wanted an apollo bar after 42, they promised me an apollo bar! and there was no apollo bar!!!!
raechel, maybe your Apollo bar is coming via airdrop
yeah, i knew about that nystin, but thanks :-) i was just wondering if there was anything else we were supposed to do with it...i have a hard time believing the only thing we're supposed to be getting out of those pictures is passwords
pharma that's DJ Dan's last podcast
you know, hearing the banter between damon and carlton on those podcasts is the only reason i download them. sad day for me that they're not in the latest one.
idaho, you are my new heroine.
We're all rooting for you Idahogirl!
in case anyone's interested, someone over on Ninja's site overlayed the ROT logo with the logo from the messageboard, and the logo on the messageboard is just the filler for the negative space on the dog logo - i thought that was kinda cool!
Go Idaho!
raechel, someone here did that a few days ago, but yeah... it's still cute :)
way to go Idaho!
meanwhile, that bodycount keeps climbing over on law and order...what's it up to now, like 10,176?
nope, not yet, it's a re-run...per usual :-)
i'm getting so sick of the subLYMONal ads...they're at the movie theatres now too!
i hear you.
yeah seriously, i don't doubt that would be frustrating
There is only two things that could be taken from that abc podcast and even then its straw grasping...
Vincent talking (HAHA thing)
Comic con mentioned as well
Hubby says there is something about the cast going to that convention.
true that yako
yako, which writers?
aw, man, i wanna go...damn the man for my living in ohio...
admin, it's true, but that's why EVERYONE should not have lives and spend all of their time on this message board :-)
i definitely am
Erase the comments?????!!! NO!
Just start a new thread!
:)
admin, you can trash all my stuff if you want too, i know it's all randomness...except the apollo bars thing, cuz i thought that was clever :-)
Hey admin...
Did you know about the blogs that some of us started to keep track of sertain areas of the game?
Lena
oh my gosh that is so ridiculous...they HAD to know people would obsess enough to go to 108...
Lena, I know of some of them. Can you email me a list.
The Research Blog is still hanging us up...we can't narrow it down!
mini ~snort!~
well Idaho, thanks for trying and finding out.
sweet dreams of pinkyellowblueredgreen tonight ;)
Way to go Idaho! At least we know for sure. I personally really appreciate your efforts.
Guys, I gotta go. Talk to you tomorrow.
Where is DJDan?
Got an OT question...
I have been ill alot lately so I miss stuff sometimes but, in the Verizon roadtrip site the source code has "atlas" in it. Has anyone ever brought that up and did it mean anything?
Sorry if its already been covered but just thought I would ask.
wait, was JGranger the chick who kept saying that her brother was being held hostage?
Good job Idaho!! Thanks so much!
And admin: I will email that either tonight or tomorrow OK? If you wanna look at a few they are in my profile. We are compiling members on them to aid in the task.
btw, for the official LOSTJournal, was that put up online (in transcript form, I mean, we can't go to like the Janelle Granger entries anymore) anywhere?
Raechel said...
wait, was JGranger the chick who kept saying that her brother was being held hostage?
Huh???
lena, I've picked up on that too and mentioned it a few times but noone replies to me, so I am guessing it is nothing... but I just keep thinking of Greek myth :)
...atlas...means nothing...just not discovered..dead end...???
**scratching head**
lena, in the official lost journal (under the "found" link), there's been a running journal since either march or april, with writings from various castaways, but most of the time they were unidentified...when henry gale was being held hostage, there were entries from this chick that kept saying he was her brother and was getting mad that jack and everyone else were patronizing her and denying holding her brother captive.
Speaker just posted on ITE:
"As far as DJ Dan goes - as soon as his website linked it, that's when I posted . . .
I haven't had TIME to look for it I've been so busy, so if we can't find it - then I'm more worried about Dan ... because I heard there's some interesting stuff in this one . . .
I'll see what I can find out, but it might not be til morning before I know anything."
I don't think we'll know anything more until tomorrow.
just had a thought re all thes light references... Persephone's name is usually defined as "destroyer of light". I have stated somewhere that maybe in this instance she is destroying the false light that Hanso project
maven, thanks for that. I was pretty much resigned to no podcast till then anyway
lavenda: You're welcome
There are a lot of light references. They're even in the advertising. We even play with the "light circles" behind THF. A lot of quotes have light in them. Even the latest password.
Wish I knew how and if they all tie-in together.
okay.. so it took me a loooooong time to catch up. Partly due to Dallas/Mav updates... j/k - ;) (mostly)
anyway - thanks idaho for sating all of our curiosity about 108. I know I couldn't have done it.
lavenda/lena - I caught the Apollo in the code as well, but didn't think much of it at the time (not knowing a lot about html). I sort of just dismissed it. I'm also pretty interested in the myth end of this, and have started to gear my blogspot towards that end (hoping to get some real info up this week). If you think it's going to be pertinent, I can add it to my list I've started. Hopefully, everyone who has posted about the myth pieces in the past remembers them, and can comment/email me with what they had, and I'll add it to that page. If you want, check it out here and add what you can/if you will. As always, I'll do my best to keep the proper kudos to those who find/post the info.
sorry... "Apollo" should have read "Atlas"
oo7 it's Atlas not Apollo... and while I did read up on him when I first noticed it to refresh my memory and look at it from a game angle... I'm not sure what to make of it yet. But then, we'll only really know at the end of it and really, it's fun for the time being. Anyway... here's the wiki entry and the only thing I can add to that at the moment was that Perseus is said to have turned him to stone with the severed head of Medusa.
heading off for a while, not sure when I'll be able to check back in
We probably won't find anything tonite according to Speaker.
I believe it won't be a password for the ROT site, but will be a link with the Verizon employees' blog when they post on Wednesday.
Yah, its gonna be a word just like porter that will take you to the podcast. Hubby has tried everything we can think of so far...
maven, your most likely right, we will get that word when the verizon guys post in the forum.
UUUGGGGGHHHH!!!!!!
kinda sorta not really but yah...
feelin a bit better, thanks!
IF THEY WOULD JUST GIVE ME MY STINKIN PODCAST I WOULD FEEL GREAT!!
YOU HEAR THAT SPEAKER...YOUR KILLIN ME!! LOL
oo7, in another thread I posted links to stuff I had written years ago about Persephone and Pandora (Pandora because Locke mentions finding "hope" in the hatch, I think there was another reference in show too, but there's a bit in it also about how men got fire and that ties to the flame hatch) and I also posted an excerpt from something I'd also written years ago about Medusa about Ascelpius (because of the similarity and historical confussion between the staff of Asclepius and the Caduceus. The Persephone and Pandora pieces are very long, they're in the theories part of the messageboard linked from this blog... I offer them to anyone who wants to use them, if they'll be of use... but they could probably do with a re-write. As for anything else... I'm keen to research stuff, but also feel like holding off to see what happens with the research blog/s being set up through here
Speaker blogs
wonder what I did wrong...
Speaker blogs
Thank you so much for doing that idaho. Saved me a load of work. And nice one belly for getting that far again.
I would also like to apologise to everyone whose time may have been wasted chasing the "magic eye" pic. I had trouble getting anything but as I was about to focus on some writing I lost it again (I thought I saw the last part of "conspira"). Due to frantically trying to catch up on posts (and thinking I had seen someone else see it the "magic eye" way I just left it and posted my bit on seeing magic eye pictures. Since then I have not been able to see conspira that way. Seems I was completely wrong.
Again, I would like to apologise for any inconvenience caused.
patchwork3930:
Thanks for that. I have to admit that there are some magic eye properties in it. I thought I saw a few words coming out of it including as someone mentioned before "pers" but I think it is nothing really. I think it has been pretty much proven that if something was to be found in a picture it would be a little more obvious than that.
I also cannot see any magic eye stuff in any of the hole pics.
I sure hope to hear DJDan today.
I just noticed but not sure if it is relevant but the coordinates on the ERI page are different I think. I am sure that before they were whole numbers but now they are showing 2 decimal places also. Sorry if this is old and it is just my mind but I am not so sure.
Any thoughts.
Its like the davinci code : )
wizard, are you viewing the page in full screen? I recal others mentioning it doing that when they had the flash at full screen
has anyone got a runtime error page with instructions on how to set up a custom error page when going from main ROTsite to the ROTmessageboard?
Just wanted to say that I gave recognition to Idaho Girl in Clue #50's post for making it to 108. Fine effort!
FYI: I've got a super-busy day today so we may be slow on the updates (hopefully regarding the DJDan Podcast). I know you're not too worried but, accept my apology in advance and don't forget to email the big stuff.
darn, it looks back to normal now... thought they might have been updating. Well I'm off to bed then. I'm sure I'll wake up to news
Lavenda:
The page wasn't in full screen but now that I am home I no longer see the two decimal places in the co-ordinates on ERI page so I guess it was just a glitch. Thanks for that.
Oh dear. Work late one night without time to log on and join in and I miss the biggest payday so far informationwise. Drat and double drat.
I have a question though. What exactly did someone do to the "link" image to get Conspira out of it? I've got photoshop but I'm no expert with it. I had a fiddle (already knowing what the clue was, but curious) and couldn't get close. What was I doing wrong?
So we know what Dharma stands for. Interesting. No actual podcast from DJDan but lots of links between the sights. Links being the keyword here. Seems they are trying to tell us P, ROT and Dan are in cahoots. Nothing huge there, but it still leaves a questionmark over the hacked Podcast.
Also the pictures from hole2 and hole4 and the phantom "save me" in the hole3 picture that was replaced later are still unconcluded. Would they spend all that time with visuals for them to be meaningless? Or maybe it is just a matter of who's faces they are with hole3 guy needing saving?
Of course we still have some entry boxes, but as we've seen with the mental health one they probably aren't active yet and will be later. Same can probably be said for discovered websites like the horde (which is a part of the hanso site). We've not been directed there properly so it's probably not in game yet.
We've been pointed to ROT, but nothing actually seems new there aside from the possibility of a new code in the newsletter.
Oh yes and the new clue referenced Paik.
I'm starting to think, we've had a lot of show related links this time around. Perhaps it's time to look at how they link up a bit.
I don't know if this was posted, I haven't seen it anywhere, but you guys all comment so fast that I may have skipped it.
On the RoT site, inside the message board, someone posted a link to richerdeeperbroader.com (I know this has been found). I'd been to the website when it was first discovered but really saw nothing of interest so I forgot about it. Today, I was playing around with it, trying to see if there was some "in game" reason for it to be on the boards, when I came across something that was new to me.
If you click the link for "Pursue Dreams", you will find a connecting link to a site, realizeambition.com - from there, choose News and Events, then click on the link for Dream 254: Verizon Incubator. It is the story of a woman starting her business in Philadelphia. Nothing great there ... but in the top right corner, there is a login/password box marked "realizer use only".
Has this been seen before, and, if so, has it been ruled in or out of game? If it hasn't .... what's everyone's opinion?
Sorry I stumbled upon the crazy eye picture then had to run, I had tickets to a baseball game and had to leave work early...
I see everyone did an excellent job as always...
Reading up on the 400 plus posts...
Peace & Namaste
If the numbers are dates them maybe the dates are relevant to the person in the picture. Like the hole2 pic saying 2002 maybe it is Alvar Hanso who disappeared in 2002. I have nothing to back this theory up though.
HELP!?!
I can't get this password to work. I type it in and nothing happens!! I couldn't do the last one neither!
Does this mean I'm out of the game? Why?? =(
If anyone can help me, PLEASE!
t_ass@hotmail.com
....
thanks.....
tantiv/maia - try going to the url in the Hanso RSS page (http://www.thehansofoundation.org/#section=genomic). I know a lot of people were having trouble with this one.
fenris/welovecov - I agree that there is still something more to the pics. Especially since we have seen 3 of these & one pic of the Dr. from the MHA page with his face blackened out. I think there is something more to the "facless man" imagery and/or pictures. Maybe "faceless man" itself is a clue?
Welovcov: I agree! I was thinking exactly the same thing when I first saw it. Seems random. I'm thinking that TPTB have a grand scheme, but are divining the path on the fly.
Nice work fitz66
Cenored? Hmmm THis is interesting.
Is this a wind up?
wiz - I notice fitz included a (lol) at the end, and the title of the podcast says it's a "fan podcast". I don't believe this is the "real" DJ Dan podcast....
are you sure that is an official podcast? it sounds fake to me.
I do not believe so either. Just wishful thinking I guess.
Anyway. I have been trying to do something with the numbers I found in the comments section of the latest two DJDan mp3 files. (found by right clicking the file, click properties and then summary)
000001B5 00000027 00007056 0000210A 0003C3D8 0003DED8 0000746E 00006CB9 0003DBF0 0003CDE0
0000035D 0000002F 0001D2E1 000039B2 00028578 000403F8 00008466 00008645 0003E220 00028548
I have mentioned it before but no one figured it out. Anybody want to have a go. They must mean something.
Those look like hex code...I think. Maybe throw em into a hex-editor?
Morgana:
I was looking into those names (not as thoroughly as you though: nice work) and tried to get passwords meanings. I think there are things pointing to there being something in there but I just can't figure anything. I also think that any relevance would maybe be to do with the previous clue that we got from the ROT site and so looking now would be meaningless. I just don't know.
ghettogumby. They are in hex but I haven't been able to make sense of it in any of the hex converters I have found on the net. Unless anyone knows about different ways to translate hex.
Sorry. I did look at the site and info Ambientblu was talking about but it didn't seem relevant (could be wrong). Just seemed like normal people who would get the shock of their lives if we started contacted them (LMAO - lets do it).
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idaho girl:
Thank you SSSOOOOOOOO much for doing that. It was a load off all our minds.
Wiz - at first I thought the same thing. Just some shameless plug for a Verizon publicity stunt. But the more I read on the page about this "experiment" (they locked the woman in a storefront, esentially a glass box, for 21 days to see if she could jump start her growing business. She would be given tasks, and if she completed them to the "Oracle's" satisfaction, she was rewarded ... if she failed, there were reprecussions ...!!??) the more I started to think that, had this truly happened (I believe the dates on the press releases pointed to a September 2005 kick off), there would have been more publicity.
Perhaps I am just grasping here. It's getting to the point where I look for clues and correlations everywhere ... and it's starting to annoy me.
Maybe they will bring David Blane into the mix...
minipulator:
More meaningful than anything I ever got. Does what you found mean anything do you think or have any ideas on how to figure it out?
Katamarmon:
The latin I am sure I read in an early post does mean let your compass guide you (loosely) but nothing came of it.
minipulator:
Ohe yes. You get those numbers if you take each hex value and convert to decimal. Adding these numbers gives 2149509. Searching on google gives a genome database (first result) but I do not know anything about this to say if it is any more than a coincidence. Sure it is coincidence though.
Kat -
That is so sad. VOLUNTEERING for 21 days in a glass box, risking being "punished" for not completing tasks properly ... I think I have officially seen it all now.
And here I thought I had a good theory going! Oh well ... I'd still be interested in what the "realizer" logs in to when they input the username and password LOL
Manipulator - I think this site does what you were asking already...but it could be better I guess...
http://lowkeysoft.com/LostARG/ascii.php
Remember gang, Speaker told us on Friday to rest up for a busy week, I think P has lived up to that hype so far...I am ready for more!!! I love the Mythology references as well...
Peace & Namaste
I did not mean to discourage you, give it a go, anything anyone does here is helpful, sometimes even the smallest light is enough to light the path...ok that sounded like a Hanso page quote...LOL...We need as much eyes and ears on this as possible... the more the merrier...
Peace & Namaste
I know minipulator. It may even be some reference number but I wouldn't know this for sure.
This is the page if anyone is interested click here. The number 2149509 appears further down next to "NCBI gi".
INTENSE
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A possible tip if something doesn't work for eg passwords in THF.
Install another browser like firefox (the obvious one to use other than internet explorer). Stick to your main browser for general use but if you have a problem like this it usually resolves itself in time. So instead of waiting try accessing the site using the different browser. It may mean having to repeat some clues (but I don't think so) but you will probably get it this way unless you are extremely unlucky.
6x6 is hidden
Is it a mistake (I don't see why) or does 6x6 mean something (other than 36 or is that the clue?)?
6x6 gave me this page when put in the ROT e-mail box. What does it mean
Sorry.
The page I got showed this.
I guess it was just a glitch. What are the odds. New password/clue (maybe) and this happens. Hmph
I anagrammed sixbysix. Nothing.
just an FYI - speaker has something new on his gmail away message:
"df-iulootnrtnrok-i'g--ontedyve-tr0a."
Could it mean 6:30...or 6 30's...
I am not sure what to make of speakers cryptic hidden message...
Peace & Namaste
Also tried "thirtysix:
HI TRI STYX
HI XI TRYST
THIRSTY XI
Also tried thirtysix:
THIRTY SIX
HIST XI TRY
HITS XI TRY
THIS XI TRY
SHIT XI TRY
SIXTH I TRY
HIT SIX TRY
THY STIR XI
THY TRI SIX
Try hit six?
oo7, what does that mean?
let me clarify the Speaker's away message: it is on two lines-
"df-iulootnrtnro
k-i'g--ontedyve-tr0a."
You guys are on the case! I love it. Just saw speaker's post. What about the
"Curious Indicident of the Dog in the Night" reference. A book about autism? MHA? Vick?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1400032717/103-7678975-6371012?n=283155
Still working on it Thrash... may take me a few minutes as I'm on a conference call at the moment. I need to at least half pay attention to work, right?
Someone over at ITE has mentioned that 6x6 means grave, 6 feet long by 6 feet deep, is DJ Dan dead?
Thrasher: I think it maybe 6:30. On the ROT forum iobiSeeingyou on 06/07 at 6:30 referenced the richerdeeperbroader.com site. It has to be something in there. I always thought it odd that on the "feel the music" link there's a blank billboard (wouldn't Verizon had put something there to advertise themselves?)! Instead, it has faint lettering. I know we've already looked at it, but I really feel something is in there. I just don't have the skills to get it.
Maven, I think that billboard is nothing. On that page, Verizon is announcing a music service that starts in July. My impression is that the covered billboard relates to launching that service.
But, I could certainly be wrong.
SweetScrapper
Maven - I have been messing with that site sine yesterday and I don't see anything of significance, yet!!!
speaker really likes his chocolate.
Thanks, Thrasher!
minipulator - That's the solution for Speaker's anagram on his away message... he's soooo funny. :)
"df-iulootnrtnrok-i'g--ontedyve-tr0a." = "Don't forget to drink your Ovaltine." - thanks matt
Someone mentioned about pressing on a dime on the verizon site but I have no idea whare this "dime" is.
Googling 6X6 right now...
talk about a black hole of information!
Type of photography film filter
Type of ATV
Type of truck
Referenced in several photoblogs
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The actual quote is "Be Sure to Drink your Ovaltine"
Speaker needs to be more accurate!!
Okay...just learned the hard way that we do NOT need to go to 6x6.com
Quote from summary of "The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time". Main character is a savant named Christopher.
"Christopher's difficulties with his emotions are particularly poignant. "Feelings," he says, "are just having a picture on the screen in your head of what is going to happen tomorrow or next year, or what might have happened instead of what did happen..."
This book looks much more interesting than Bad Twin
David, Sorry I could have told you 6x6.com is a bad site...not that it is my area of expertise but someone over ITE noticed it was not a good site to go to...
Speaker is just being goofy...
RE: Tipoffs that ROT is a "fake" site...
On the Bole bio page, it says he is a professor at "La Ville Du Chien Jaune Université" -- "The Town of the Yellow Dog" U.
Any other famous alums of that institution?
ROT site is "fake" right? Just a cover for the Verizon group?
d.
along the same lines...what if...x=10 (roman numeral)
6106
22
?
ROT is a front for the Verizon group led by DSLerator.
We know that, but apparently Hanso doesn't, or they would not be advertising the site in their TV commercials.
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sorry...by "fake" I didn't mean "not in-game" or "fan"...I meant that the organization & the doctor are presumeably not supposed to be actual people in the ARG world.
it's confusing.
I gotta run to lunch...hope we solve it.
so should we focus more on the autism hint?
okay...I'm really leaving now.
admin:
ROT is fake in a way. A lot of things to indicate this.
I think the various "clues" on the page suggest it to be fake and just a cover as you suggest. In other words do not take any clues from main ROT page as to be leading to something in-game I think.
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