Clue #54 - Persephone (19) Wow and Uh-Oh...
Sidenote: The Retrievers of Truth Message Board has been updated too. They mention a Verizon site about Broadband Stories which you'll notice, has a piece on DJDan (bottom row, 4th from left). (This is cool but doesn't merit it's own clue right now)
The Main Event:
The site, persephone.thehansofoundation.org has been updated with a rather interested image. The image file is named 7800isus.jpg. The image contains the following objects:
Recorder
Envelope
Card
Lipstick
Umbrella
Scissors
Eraser
Take the first letter of each object and you get the word "RECLUSE".
A new password box pops up if you click on the word "mortality" on the Life Extension Project page of the Hanso Foundation website. The password is...you guessed it, "recluse". You'll also need to know the last name of Vik Institute Director, Dr. Zander.
Watch and read everything carefully because you may never see it again. Record, capture, host, email links.
Thanks to Jack, Wizardry, Thrasher76, BellyOfDesire, Leelee, and Phil for being the first to email.
180 Comments:
holy shit and first
That was amazing
Don you all think
I copied this over from the previous thread:
I lightened up the 7800isus.jpg image so it is easier to see:
http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/3089/7800isus21nb.jpg
Here is what I see
- Looks like a wood table
Objects at the top
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- paper with Octogon, NN circled, some writing
- 2 CDs
- 2 containers? not sure what these are...
- looks like some blood stains on the wood
- Objects in a row
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- Radio
- Envelope (padded, looks opened)
- Card (playing card, back showing)
- Lipstick (red)
- Umbrella (closed)
- Scissors
- Eraser
What an awesome FRiday!!! Thrilled!!! To say the least!!
Wow awesome!
Anyone else thinking that Alvar Hanso is Persephone?
wreti, it is Zander
Couple possible causes of myocardial infection that tie into the ARG:
1. Rejection of heart following transplant (ties into Cape Town hospital organ harvesting)
2. Radiation (ties into the whole nuclear storyline. Didn't the South Gerogia thing happen in 2000?)
3. Acute exposure to heavy water, which is not radioactive, presents physical signs similar to radiation poisoning. Perhaps the doctor found high levels of deuterium in Hanso's blood?
just a question: if you look at this once you won´t be able to return to the website or just to the clue?
also, if you are at the screen where it says they're shut down and you view the source, djdan.am is in there commented out
I almost sat through that secruity camera footage just in case we got something good like with the Tommy computer... then thought "oh I can come back and do it again to check"... not so easy
ou enter the site in one of the many aliases eg http://fffff.thehansofoundation.org you can see it again.
On my comp anyway.
Although it is saying password incorrect for me.
You could definitely view it again if you delete the flash cache folder for the site though.
dj dan at www.broadbandstories.com
is this new or am i behind?
crap, i don't have sound at work!
In the new post on ROT, the is a mention of www.broadbandstories.com.
One of the stories is from DJ Dan! Bottom Row, fourth from the left.
anything on the broadband stories page? I see nothing in the source code except someone stuffed up (or appears to have). Must go and feed the horde, looking forward to the developments when i get back
his "story" ends
"never give up persephone!"
awesome stuff to wrap up the week!
oxillini said...
also, if you are at the screen where it says they're shut down and you view the source, djdan.am is in there commented out
That has been in the source code since Clue #31.
The video of DJDan on http://www.broadbandstories.com/ is very cool. Link came from ROT site. Check it out if you haven't already. What a weekend it is going to be analysing all this stuff.
Look forward to it.
sorry..
oxillini said...
sorry..
Don't be sorry :) ... just letting you know (and everyone else)
quickly popping back in to say on the Bios page of DJDan's site they call his producer "Tonya" but on the podcast with video it said Tanya, and here on broadbandstories it calls her Tanya aswell. What's in a name?
And sorry about swearing in the first post (yeeeeeees, I got it) but I was so excited about nearly solving the clue on my own for the first time and what a mind blower it was. And now there is the new ROT stuff which leads to the other DJDan video. All this on the back of getting yet another podcast from him.
If the swearing offends then sorry. I will remove the post if you want.
I always knew it was Tanys. In England the dialect often would mean that Tanya would sound like Tonya. I didn't doubt it for a second.
But yes. What is in a name.
I am a lucky goose!!! I went through this hanso stuff with hubby on HIS computer...I still havent done it using MY computer!!!! WOOHOO~!~
*Tanya
I have a computer shop and am working tomorrow. I will have endless computers to try it on. heh heh.
Thats funny wizard!
Hi everyone.
I succeded in capturing the 'video'....on video but unfortunately Persephone asked me the name of the vik institue director and since I did not know it... Well it is the end of the video.
I will try to upload it soon.
with all these hacks and podcasts appearing at times other than when we were informed they would, and now a ROT messageboard from the future (doens't matter which timezone you are in!), it made me think of Douglas Adams "Time is an illusion, lunchtime doubly so". Off to finish my breakfast...
So we are seeing a different side to DJDan now with this new video on http://www.broadbandstories.com/.
What do you guys think.
wizardry_eas said...
I have a computer shop and am working tomorrow. I will have endless computers to try it on. heh heh.
You don't have to switch computers... just change the sub-domain (third-level domain), i.e. hole5.thehansofoundation.com, hole6.thehansofoundation.com, etc...
I think it SHOULD have a clue section of its own myself but as we know it just means we will jump up there to talk about the LEP clue as well.
Dennis : I tried that and I always get 'incorrect password' or something like that.
dennis:
But I keep on getting password is incorrect if I do this. So I will wait 'til tommorw to see it again. Off to bed soonish anyway. But at least I am now looking forward to tomorrow.
Guys, wanted to say "Hi". I've got some work stuff and deadlines...so, I have to take a break. Didn't anticipate this type of action today. Wish I could chat. Hope our post is adequate for today. What a heart-pounding hack!!! Looks like a healthy change of "monotony" is coming.
Belly:
It is an advert in a way. But it is still DJDan on Hanso. And this time not a podcast. And it came from ROT. Only thing I have got from ROT's new update so far. Lot of images. No doubt if things get quiet again this will come forward again.
Should have seen me Googling frantically for Armand. Thought my comp was going to blow. LOL.
But I keep on getting password is incorrect if I do this.
Yeah, me too. I tried logging on at the newsletter, and doing the Joop cluse, but password still won't work again.
matt, do you mean the dates that each section starts at? (ie the first date and each date taht appears after fast forward?)
the broadbandstories DJDan clip... tells Persephone never to give up and there is a shot of JFK in his car Dallas, Texas whcih I don't recall seeing on DJDan's site before. All the other images looked old news (except ones of The Dan himself)
Thanks Matt. Perfect
Oh dear. If you don't click on the vids to fast forward them it goes on for ages. I never realised that. Thanks again Matt
roomforhuman said...
No one else here happened to get a blank e-mail from kelan@foundstone.com?
Foundstone is a network security services company owned by McAfee, with tools to help you attempt to exploit your own code. Are you an IT guy? It seems like this is a weird email to get randomly if not.
aloha princess:
The only thing I noticed was that all of the items were removed from Hanso's desk. I was not able to note the dates/times that the items were removed (or what was going on in the other screens as this happened). That's probably a good approach to take if someone is able to capture the recordings or replay the sequence, I think.
This will be a lot of work. Looks like research team will have a super busy week ahead. With all that is going on where will there be time to do the research on other stuff. Might be abvle to tie it in though so hey. Lets see how it goes.
I'd taken BigD to be "Big Dan" ~shrugs~
TRANSCRIPT
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The Hanso Foundation, Copenhagen
IS HE A RECLUSE OR IS HE A PRISONER? WHY WOULD HE ALLOW SUCH EVIL THINGS
TO BE DONE IN HIS NAME?
DISTURBING, ISN’T IT?
AND THERE’S MORE.
SO MUCH MORE. I CAN HELP
CONNECT THE DOTS...
DO YOU WANT TO KNOW THE REST?
THEN ENTER THE NAME OF THE DIRECTOR OF THE VIK INSTITUTE... ARMAND...?
(if you answer wrong...)
I CAN’T TRUST YOU. SORRY.
(if you answer right...)
COOL. THANKS. SORRY FOR ALL THE CLOAK AND DAGGER.
BUT I GOTTA BE CAREFUL WHO I TRUST...
I THINK MITTELWERK IS THE KEY TO ALL THIS -–
I NEED TO FIND OUT WHAT HE IS UP TO WITH ALL OF THESE PROGRAMS --
I’M GONNA
The Hanso Foundation site has been hacked by malicious infiltrators seeking to blemish the good work of many dedicated researchers. Until a legal investigation is completed, the site will no longer be accessible to the public. Namaste.
GEESSSS!!!! I NEED to get rid of this stupid cold...its making me have a hard time concentrating!!! UUUGGGGG!
SOO MUCH!
Do ya think speaker gets a kick out of knowing there is about to be a HUGE change in the game?
why would a man like Alvar Hanso have a red lipstick on his table?
I was finally able to capture the last part of the video with all those images that goes really fast !
I will upload the video now (without the sound I'm afraid).
And here it is everyone : the final part of the video with the quick images ! (thanks Matt The Pale for posting the direct link)
http://www.spoilerific.com/tle/thefinalpart.avi
Enjoy everyone !
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For those of you who are interested, here is the audio part of the video (the whole video, not just the 'quick images'-part) but I'm not sure how it can be helpfull to anyone :
http://www.spoilerific.com/lte/audio2.mp3
Just found this over at 'the lost experience'
you can see the hack again here
http://thehansofoundation.org/swf/extra/lep.swf?playDirect=true
I mean at 'inside the experience'
By popular demands (AKA no one) I captured the complete video (including the begining, yes, but, no, still no sound) and here it is :
http://www.spoilerific.com/lte/wholevideo.avi
Matt posted it. Thanks though jace.
Looking at the images that flash up near the end. I am sure that a few times an image has popped up of someone in a suit like
*****SPOILER ALERT*****
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the one Desmonds companion in the hatch had.
I haven't been able to capture the pic yet but I am so sure.
Can someone help me with the dates on the 3 cameras.
I believe it starts on Cam1 in the carpark on May 21, 2004. Cam42 is on Alvar Hanso's desk and Cam23 is in Alvar Hanso's parlor.
Do the dates continue going up one day at a time until June 19th? Has anyone watched each date go by? I did it for a while, but got impatient.
It started on May 21, 2004.
jpike001:
Yes it did sound like it. I think the experience was trying to emulate it. That is why I thought my comp ws going to blow j/k.
You got the familiar computer sounds also.
So, in my work to isolate key elements of this new video, I have nice clean pictures.
Enjoy.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/manta0918/incident.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/manta0918/copen.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/manta0918/compass.jpg
-The Truth Tempest
Always a good choice.
Some of the flashes look like hatches. Does anyone have a still of them?
I can confirm that the flashes are not hatches.
Also, there is some talk about whether there is a person not on the Executive Page right now shown in the video at the end of a recap of Persephone's actions.
In fact, no, that person shown is just the older picture of Hugh McIntyre, confirming that this seemed to be a recap going backwards, perhaps "undoing" what Persephone has done. Maybe this means that Persephone has finally and assuredly been shutdown.
-The Truth Tempest
M2Saint-TheTruthTempest:
It is a man in a suit like Kelvins. Thanks.
I just looked at some of the images in the flash I just put through a decompiler. A few interesting ones that I cannot find when doing following the clue properly. I will personally not post them here for this reason but no doubt they will be somewhere out there on the web if you are interested. Several pictures are found.
I agree that there has a been a lot of things pointing to time. I have also thought it very possible from the start that some kind of time manipulation is within the scope of THF. We will see if it will pan out somehow.
DJ Dan = SELL OUT
*commits seppuku*
-The Truth Tempest
Hit the Road, Dan,
and don't you come back!
No more, no more,
no more, no moooore!
I think that the amount of pictures that are there point to TPTB wanting us to look at the images in the flash. (not sure but they know we can look and why have so many (possibly something later in the clue but it never seems to be the case)). I know it is wrong to look for the passwords in terms of cheating but I have never found looking at the images spoiled anything.
I will still not post images because I would not like to upset anyone here.
interesting that both the ROT board and now this video surveilance have June 19 dates. Kat, what podcast did we get that was scheduled for the 21st? I don't think you can count the broadbandstories as a podcast if that was what you were refering to
And not that I can be spoiled any more... but don't forget those in the UK in particular are behind in the show. Which is something I think the research blog will have to keep in mind too (probably another reason to initially focus on the game specifically, till the UK has caught up more. FWIW Australia just had Lockdown :D )
I watched the 3 surveillance cameras again. It starts on May 20, 2004 at the Hanso Foundation in Copenhagen.
On September 13, 2004 The printout is taken from the desk.
On March 25, 2005 The disc and file is taken
On June 15, 2006 The letters (which I think is held down by a letter opener) are taken
ok, so how did you get to braodbandstories? The days are begining to blur together and I can't remember now the last time I was at the ROT but those last two messageboards weren't there. What to make of that DJDan broadbandstories clip? On the surface I don't see anything of significance, but we get more shots of Dan and Tonya... but nothing about Hanso, Dharma or any specific conspiracies... looks like just a plug for broadband, Verizon broadband to be precise ;) Cinsidering what else we have got in the last 24 hours it seems like nothing. Not sure where it fits in. Though it does tell Persephone not to give up, and that seems particuarly topical
aloha there doesn't seem to be a direct link to the ROT messageboards. if you go to http://www.retrieversoftruth.com/ and type "porter" into the email address field and click go that will take you there
kat, oh ok :D I never explored richerdeeperbroader, don't remember anyone mentioning boradbandstories from it, btu then I guess there was no need to until now.
Either we weren't supposed to find this for a few days (but then game creators should realise by now that we are constantly checking these sites out), or they really are playing around with time refernces. And for that reason I don't know whether we will get anything on the 19th or not! ;) Maybe it will be the only day we don't get anything.
jpike001:
Make sure that you are shoing hidden files and folders (click start then run. type explorer and press ok. click tools then folder options. click view then make sure show hidden files and folders is selected).
Then go to C:\Documents and Settings\"""your user name"""\Application Data\Macromedia\Flash Player\#SharedObjects. Going into a folder there will give you a folder called www.thehansofoundation.org. Delete it and you can view again but as Matt says. You can see it here.
ladylaw:
hole5.thehanso..... is just another entrance. like ffff.thehanso... Basically if it doesn't exist then it takes you to the main site. There is nothing special about hole5. (Yet???). And as far as I can tell, for me and otheres, nopassword will take you to the current clue unless you are on http://www.thehansofoundation.org.
I am off to bed now. Have fun and hope you can make sense of some of this.
dude, this is good stuff.
we've had a busy week!
good job team...
It has been seen before c4v3m4n. you get 108 from plane and then entering 108 gives podcast Many clues ago.
Armand Zander
WOW! All I can say is WOW! After catching up, and running through the gambit myself, I have to make note of a couple of things:
First, since this is an "Alternate Reality", I think that our whole version of time may not apply. What if the game is actually happening at a date future to our own? I know this may be a bit of a mind trip, but with the number of time references being out of place, and knowing how well these guys have done everything else, what if the ARG is actually "future tense"?
Second, DJ DAN (actor-wise) is Javi. I had little doubt about it before, but now - no doubt whatsoever. Go ahead, go to http://radiofreejavi.com/ and see for yourself... better yet, open one of his "Ask Javi"s, close your eyes, and listen to DJ DAN!
Still trying to wrap my brain around everything that's happened today... again - WOW!
They're saying that the Monster.com video of Rachel Blake was a leak. Is this a real deal?
Speaker's Mom> WHERE DID THIS "POP" UP????
http://content.monster.com/pop/default.asp?archiveid=3&mediaid=15&playerid=1
Awesome...completely awesome...
Where is Rachel Blake's blog? She mentions that she put she was on vacation in her blog.
The name Rachel came up in the beginning of all this. I don't remember where it was found. Anyone?
Look at what she is drinking.
Looks like we have a Sprite fan.
I wonder what audience she is really sending this to. It seems she is sending it to newbies of the cause.
To me, it sounds like a great "Lets reboot The LOST Experience and get a new fresh angle on it".
-The Truth Tempest
She is Label Hacker.
Anagram of Rachel Blake.
speaker's mom/TTT - I think this may be a catch-up point for the newcomers. I noticed the Sprite as well, but also noticed that she's giving us no new information. I agree that it would be uber hard to put the file on monster to begin with, but also note that it's playing within a window on monster.com. I think we may have seen our first official leak, no?
o.k. I have not read any posts but I am freaking out. I just got a new computer so was going through all the old clues to be caught up and so that i could hear (for the first time since only my new computer has speakers) persephone's voice and the DJDan podcasts. When I got to Hugh's clues, and tried to put in the password, "the mouthpiece" I got a black and red hanso screen saying that the hanso site was no longer public due to intrusions! So I immediately came here and red the clue on the site, and so tried that but while I was able to get to hanso I was not able to put in "recluse" it keeps saying incorrect password. What am I supposed to do when I keep getting the no Hanso access site everytime I try the old clues
?????
i can't get any of the passwords to work after "heir apparent"
I believe that Persephone overstepped her boundaries and the Hanso Foundation has shut her down.
My continuous theory has been that this is a 1984 scenario of the evil creating enemies to itself so that it can control both supporters and opponents.
Thus, as per many of my statements, it was predicted that the pawns in this game are kept in play until they become useless or overstep their bounds of control and are then replaced by a new advisary for Them to control. Label Hacker is the newest pawn in the game, believing that what she is doing is right.
The Hanso Foundation believes that what it is doing is genuinely for the good of the world, similar to many leaders and people in general. But in reality, they are quickly becoming closer and closer to being a Nazi Germany.
You can feel it, can't you? Them preparing for something big?
Their Final Solution is near.
Can we stop it in time?
Or will this actually be the panacea Hanso speaks so highly of desiring.
The choice is up to you.
-The Truth Tempest
the same way I always have thehansofoundation.org. no wwww.
But see I was going through all the steps from the beginning because this is a brand new computer (straiught out of the box)
It is intersting that I got the Hanso shutdown page when I put in the hugh clues long before I could get to this most recent clue
There's a Rachel Blake actress, but interestingly enough there's no picture available!
Sorry Angry, I went back and did the microfiche clue and found that that is not her name.
Not to mention, that woman works for the Hanso Foundation. Eliza Vasquez is a private doctor of a hospital unrelated to the HF.
Just thought you would like to know. :)
-The Truth Tempest
I think we need to listen to rachel.... and start making more petitions and more involvement on getting the truth out of the hanso foundation.
If we are to take this game seriously then let's start by listening to this ingame character and protesting against the hanso foundation. The best way we can do this is by making petitions and sending in our complaints to the email addresses that we know. Let's take over this game and really own it!
I am in tears. I get a new computer so have to start over with the clues from the start, but half are not working any more, and so the new ones are not either. They probably would work on my new computer, but that doesn't have sound. So guess is you don't follow from the very begininnig of the game, or if you do (as I did) but then have your computer die and have to get a new one you are excluded
:((
I guess I'm not allowed to play anymore. :~((
No worries, noblelawyer.
List which clues you are having a problem with getting working that are really important for you to see and I'll help you out. :)
So, an anagram of Rachel Blake.
Label Hacker.
Our next hacker adorned with more advertising than a NASCAR race.
-The Truth Tempest
Speak the sellout truth.
Instead of Rachel Blake,
say Label Hacker.
noble, have you tried going through www.thehanso etc?
Rachel Blake actress is an Aussie. There isn't a pic on her main imdb page, but a photo from Lantana. This Rachel Blake is definately not the Rachel we just watched (and I am basing that on having watched her on tv for years, not just that pic).
So, will an in-game Rachel Blake blog appear? Who will be the first to get a fake one up? LOL
I am just frustrated because I have lost what little semblence I had of a life to my obsession with this.
What is the Monter clue/site you refer to? is it the Monster.com? Hanso careers?
The truth tempest - I was completely up to date until this afternoon evening. I cannot get the recluse password to work.
could this be because I already got the hanso site closed message when I was trying to put in the hugh McYntire clue?
Someone asked abover where Rachel ahd come into the game before... I can't remember exactly where now, btu I recall it being mentioned in reference to source code
what if she comes to comic con in san diego? I'll be there so i'll let you guys know!
Matt the pale-
Thank you! I think I would have been better off just putting in the newsletter password and then going directly to the latest clue rather than try and go all the way through again.
Thank you all so much. I knew I could count on this great community. Now that I am calmer I am going to read through the rest of the comments so I can attempt to converse coherently.
Oh, and by the way, I am a
Girl, not a Dude.
In the book BAD TWIN,
ZANDER was the one brother of the identical Widmore twins
hahaha. So, louie1, are you saying that Rachel was giving her own fanfare when referring to Persephone's great work? XD
I'm not laughing at you; I simply find the thought amusing. Quite cool actually.
She doesn't mesh with my thoughts on Persephone though. I have a feeling Label Hacker is just the next step. Like passing down the torch.
Oh, and good evening, -Miss- Noblelawyer. *bow*
Glad you just needed that help. Remember that we're always here for you. ^_^
-The Truth Tempest
holy s***! I just came home and saw that hack! THAT WAS INSANE!!!
axelsoar-
the only ay that video is not real would be if someone hacked the monster.com server and uploaded that video... all within the span time of about 20 minutes.
which is impossible.
It's real.
i wonder where we'll find all the remaining clues. Now that Hanso is closed indefinately.
kristen- it's called the RSS
and it's shows you the recently updated portion of the website and takes you directly to it.
Since on the RSS feed it currently refers to the electromagnetic portion of the website , when you click it it takes you to that portion of the website and not the intro of the website.
o.k. Sanity has returned to me an and I have read all the comments. That was as great hack and this has been THE GREATEST WEEK EVER! But I am still "lost" regarding the Rachen Black reference and her site/video on Monster.com. Is there a particular way I need to get to this ......whatever it is, or can I simply search for rachel blake on the monster site?
"Rachel Blake"
Hey everyone...geeesssss sooo much new stuff to keep up with!!!!!!!!
Did anyone think that video on broadband stories from a "Tanya" was a little wierd too? We noticed it was spelled wrong but the guy in her pictures that is suppose to be her husband (DAVE...humm, heard that name before)looks a LITTLE like DJDan?
oh, and remember when you think the work is ending, it is already tomorrow in Australia
world.......
wow my typing siklls rellay go dwon the mreo I dirnk!
Kirsten, I get the same thing with Firefox.
Just right click on the page and click Play. It will bring up the normal page.
Now, the Label Hacker video is real. Check my above post if you really question it. Regardless, the original leak, I think, was a slip. Not a big one, though.
The name Rachel was mentioned three times in that slip, and then the code was changed to not have Rachel in there. The new code also inserted multiple names such as Amy just to make us think that the name was a random occurence or goof.
It was dealt with in a matter befitting with the most evidence(especially considering what we see today) a mess up.
Regardless, I do not believe Label Hacker is Persephone. It seems rather ridiculous. I wouldn't mind it, though.
-The Truth Tempest
the truth tempest I have reviewed all the comments and yours twice, but I am still lost as to where Rachel Blake/Label Hacker came from other than that original reference along time ago to Rachel, as previous discussed in teh clues and this comment section
noble, from what I can gather, someone stumbled across it snooping around at Monster
anyone have the address for the monster link?
http://content.monster.com/pop/default.asp?archiveid=3&mediaid=15&playerid=1
That is the link. Enjoy Rachel Blake.
-The Truth Tempest
Or, well, maybe that came out wrong.
Don't -enjoy- Rachel Blake, but enjoy watching the video.
No worries, Michelle. It just means you have quite a bit of quality reading and some fun interaction until by the time you finish, a new clue will be up without having to feel like you waited long!
Horah! That sure sounds like an advantage to me.
-The Truth Tempest
LOL
The truth Tempest.
that was good, and looked and sounded pretty in-game to me.
I should have gone your way Herecomesw, but I hadn't even looked for new clues before trying the old ones.....that was my downfall, a mistake I won't make again ;)
well I hope you all feel better now. I know I do. And everything is back to normal. Exactly the way it was meant to be.
would this link help anyone? http://wm.kidzonline.org/o/monster/week1_post1.wmv
Oh, well, thank you very much, very nice of you. Your vote of confidence is overwhelming.
Sounds pretty in-game to me, too. Not to mention the Sprite can on her desk.
New reveals coming later.
-The Truth Tempest
You rush a miracle man, you get rotten miracles.
I would be very surprised if we got another clue before Monday. Depending on what status TPTB are in the ABC labor union, they would not work weekends in the summer without overtime.......of course I don't know if they can program something that won't take place until a later date - I know how to use, but not manipulate computers
I don't have inside knowledge.
Wow I spend a day at work and a night in class and when I get home there is this.
Since when do we get NEW clues on a friday... are they stepping up the game or are we just not getting everything that we are supposed to find?
This was one hell of a good hack and I can't wait for more.
Lets just say the cat is out of the bag.
Hey, has no one noticed the design on Label Hacker's shirt?
So far, I can read:
VAU
LAR
TA
Of course, you can get ALVAR VAUT out of it, but I think there is more to that shirt.
That is unresolved as well as the last picture name from Persephone.
7800isus.jpg.
What could this mean? We never figured it out.
Lets get on it, LOST Diggers.
-The Truth Tempest
haha. No offense taken.
Just typed quick, brother. Was watching that Label Hacker video again.
Mommie, I don't know if it is the same, since I haven't compared myself, but since I have recently listened to some Persephone hacks (the early ones I could get into before being shut-down), I would say that the voices do sound similar.
it really is refreshing that the people here go out of there way to apologize and make sure to not offend while those in other forums (ITE) seem to go out of their way to take offense.
well the first step to figure out the picture could just be stating that 7800 = us
since it does say 7800 is us
is means equal to.... but i could just be reading too much into that
so anyone want to make any wagers as to where we will find the next clue?
noble-
we'll prolly get a djdan update about P and maybe this rachel girl.... and possibly then another new vid from rachel later next week? possibly info on dj dan's or ROT sites
Sparty, I went back and watched that video with the Hugh affair, and though they both have brown hair, they look completely different. Sorry, brother.
Louie1, as said before, I think it was a threat call similar to the one DJ Dan got. She is strong in resolve, but she probably still gets a little flustered by them. Anyone would.
Now, I am currently trying to figure out if Persephone and her voice are similar, as well.
The video gives me the feeling that she is not Persephone, but then, their voices -are- similar. They also share some similar phrasing. Regardless, she used "Persephone" in third person; so, I still believe it is not her but a very outspoken follower.
The bout at the end, though... about us all continuing to do it in her stead. And the beginning with how we've "come this far". It really makes you think this may just be Persephone.
-The Truth Tempest
Truth Tempest:
I took a good look at her shirt. I'm pretty sure it says: Vallarta, as in Puerto Vallarta (a resort in Mexico). Nothing to the shirt!
tapdawg- sounds like a very plausible theory
heh. Something offline is coming.
The next clue is probably going to involve introducing the blog of Label Hacker and then giving the link to that video. At the moment, it really appears to have been a premature find and should be resolved tomorrow. Don't worry.
-The Truth Tempest
P.S. 7800 = us. Not a stretch at all. This is the LOST Experience. Nothing is looking too deep into something. I missed an opportunity a few days back when I anagrammed the Hole titles out to "gain a light sequence". After that didn't work, I gave up and went to sleep. 15 minutes later, someone revealed "light sequence again". ... What a beatdown, right? So, keep at it!
Are you saying there is nothing to a woman going to Copenhagen, Denmark wearing a Puerto Vallarta, Mexico t-shirt?
When and why did she go down to Puerto Vallarta, Mexico?
What, was she in hiding?
-The Truth Tempest
louie1, perhaps I should also go to sleep since I dreampt about the Vellenetri (sp?) formula last night, and HanSO was chasing me (although it was obviously a case of mistaken identity)
The truth tempest - I wore an aggie t-shirt and ordered a margarita in copenhagen once, and never thought anything special about it ;)
I just don't think we need to anagram Puerto Vallarta!
Does anyone know what comes below "All we have to do" on the opening of Rachel's video. It goes by too fast for me.
well, i do agree with that Maven. The anagraming does get out of hand, as we learned with timeless together.
7800:
7/8/00 July 8, 2000
ISUS:
The Integrated Sensor Underwater System
ISUS is a sea proven military combat system, designed for use onboard conventional submarines of all sizes and for all missions. It ensures optimum support for the operator and command team alike. Sensor management, fire and weapon control, navigation and support functions are all implemented with a high degree of automatic control and comprise an advanced man-machine interface.
A worldwide customer base underline ISUS as the leading combat system for conventional submarines.
-The Truth Tempest
:D louie1,
Jpike, I thought the call sounded like a fax machine. perhaps she was faxed a threatening message?
There's an article in this weeks Entertainment Weekly (with Superman on the cover) about all of us!
It's called "'Lost' in the Web". Talks all about the Lost Experience. One small quote: "the Experience was conceived by ABC's marketing department and the show's producers as a three-act story steeped in official show mythology but invovling new or peripheral characters."
Noblelawyer: Go Aggies.
Louie1: yeah, I thought of spring break, too.
Matt...
-The Truth Tempest
P.S. Don't worry, Matt! I haven't forgotten you. Just go to Clue #5 on this very site and it will explain the Newsletter clue. Cool.
Act 2.
had a thought about 7800isus... I can't see it being used in exactly the same way as the hole pics because the 0's won't translate to letters
i hate to go, but I must say goodnight!
hope to see ya'll tomorrow
TTT, ooh, that was an interesting find!
And yes, Act 2.
belly... good point!
wait. What if that is a phone number?
7-800-ISUS?
-The Truth Tempest
Indeed a valid theory.
A lot of things inspire LOST; so, it makes sense that that might be possible.
All the buddha and Dharma and Namastes, though. The South Pacific. Things off of Korea. Korean organ smuggling. Did I mention Namaste?
So much of it is Eastern references, especially South Eastern ones.
Alchemy was huge in China and Korea, but I can't confirm any other asian places.
The overwhelming theme that continues is of people believing that what they are doing is the right thing. For the betterment of the world.
The Hanso Foundation believes it is trying to save the world.
We believe we are trying to save the world by stoppin the Hanso Foundation.
Who really is worthy of judging who is on the right path?
If there is one.
-The Truth Tempest
Let he without sin cast the first stone.
Leave judgment to the only worthy Judge.
Thanks BoD. ^_^
Well, I am an artist and writer, but I mainly do artistic ventures for a living. That, and manual labor. As we all sometimes have to do. ha
Myself as Caine from Kung-fu?
Wow, I would have never made that connection. I feel honored.
-The Truth Tempest
Does my saying "I feel honored"
just prove the similarity more so?
How odd and unexpected.
I really should make a LOST blog sometime soon. I just get discouraged by how many of them there are.
Though, I shall let you in on a little secret.
I'm working on a series of "political cartoons" centered around The LOST Experience that may be put up as a weekly or per Big Clue basis. Stay tuned.
-The Truth Tempest
How many licks to the
center of The LOST Experience?
Well, I just stumbled in here... kind of lost. I suspect it will take forever to catch up. But I like puzzles and Lost.
Maybe someone has mentioned it but on that electromagnetic pic... the weird date underneath... it is an numeric anagram for Black Tuesday, October 29, 1929.. day the stock market crashed. doubt it means a thing, just thought it weird.
if we are going for Asian references don't for get the mention of Sri Lanka on the original phone message. I'm waiting for that to come up more in the game just as the Korean off-shore venture has
I noticed something about her shirt. Puerto Vallarta, Mexico... maybe it means nothing. haha. (I actually admitted something not meaning anything!)
She probably just said on her blog that she was going to Puerto Vallarta, Mexico on vacation. That's why she is wearing that shirt. The end.
Anyway...
Hi dixie girl!
It is also the coordinates of 291 x 929 on the page.
The best way to get caught up is to read the main page with all the clues from the start. It really is a lot quicker than reading every comment.
I promise. ;)
-The Truth Tempest
Texan Cowboy
The call center is a number given to us in a Hanso Foundation commercial.
It gave us the code breaking strain.
Wow!! Amazing clue - and things could get nasty from here on in between us, Persephone, RoT, DJDan and the Hanso-ites (ie. Mittelwerk...)
Anyways, just giving my two cents, here's a few relevant notes I took from the letter:
- The letter is addressed to 'Signor Hanso'
- All letters sent to Hanso at any address were sent back
- Hanso apparently has, or used to have, a Narvik Villa
- Hanso apparently contracted a myocardial infection in Madrid
- The doctor's name is Eliza Vasquez, M.D.
- They treated Hanso in Madrid and took a blood sample from him apparently against his will; the subsequent blood test said that Hanso will have a heart attack in the 'near future'
- There are no dates or anything on the letter to determine when it was written, but parhaps we could figure out the timeframe by referencing to the interactive map of Hanso's travels that Persephone gave us a while ago?
Also, the first time we saw the red Hanso message about the site being closed, there was a message that flashed up for half a second in white:
nobody is safe
Interesting!
Hmmm. Interesting.
Sparty said that Rachel looks alot like the girl in the Hugh vid from P. and I kind of agree with that.
So this brings to me the question of,
What if Hugh was telling the truth when he said it was just a fabrication of the hacker Persephone? That would be one hell of a twist, and This game is a drama and all good dramas have a good twist a couple of weeks in on TV. For example just take a look at LOST. What do you make of this?
Madrid was the last stop on that map, 31st Dec 2002. lab_tech typed the letter out and it is posted above, the doctor said she felt Hanso might have a heart attack in the near future. Wish we knew what was unusual about the results
I can confirm with almost 99.9% confidence that the video and this latest hacks are not only in-game but something that has been in the works over the last month.
Anyway, on to issues. I believe there are snippets cut out because she editted her video. Who wants to show themself crying on camera? Or rambling at one point? I don't smell foul play in the editting.
JOOP = Alvar Hanso.
Not that monkey. That would be ridiculous. I mean that Joop the monkey is just a cover for the work they have been doing on keeping Alvar Hanso alive. That would explain why his heart results are "unusual" and how he commonly has heart problems.
The man has been dying since the late 70s when he was last prominently seen. He is like the kings of old that fell prey to dreams of eternal life. They subjected themselves to endless tests and potions to attain immortality.
The Hanso Foundation and all of their work may well be directed by the simple desire of Alvar Hanso to stay alive. Or the direction of something wanting him to stay alive. A captive in life. The undying lab rat.
-The Truth Tempest
Mittelwerk = Rasputin
Calling the shots from behind with the king slowly dying under his fiendish influence. Tearing down a great kingdom into ruin and using his magic(science) to further his means.
-The Truth Tempest
Happy sleuthing, brother.
Jason... huh?
lol. Usually I am more articulate, but right now the Persephone page has a picture on it and no text or numbers. +1 timeless together was her second to last update.
Clear your cache or ctrl-reload to see the updated Persephone page.
-The Truth Tempest
Nope, blink. Investigate, brother!
Now, the time has come.
For me to sleep. ha
Now, I am sure we are all stricken bemused with the level of activity today, but hopefully today can also carry some casual amusement to lighten the edges of a dark corridor the game is leading us down.
The LOST Experience is a three act play with story arcs and rather intriguing drama. And fortunately, a new wind is whistling through.
Today begins Act 2.
Good thing it is. I have always adored the second act best of all.
Cheers, and Namaste.
-The Truth Tempest
The next time Speaker indicates we are in for a big week... expect Act 3 to follow not long after
Persephone is a hacker? Is that all, or is this part of soem larger cult or concpiracy. I don't know I seem to suspect a few things here which don't seem right.
Just a feeling nothing for sure. Sorry if I am wrong.
Damn it. I can't access the clue. If I log into a new prefix I get the password box, but it doesn't except "recluse" as a password. If I log into the www prefix I don't even get the password box.
Damn you NTL! Worst ISP in the world!
Muslim unity, we -are- the cult behind Persephone.
We are the conspiracy against the Hanso Foundation.
Without us, she is just one woman getting her jollies with Flash hacking.
Speak out about what you suspect! ^_^ There are few truly "wrong" things in the LOST Experience. Half the time, we won't know if our hunches are wrong for quite some time. So, predict and theorize away. We'd be glad to hear it.
Though, as for myself, I am asleep.
So, Namaste!
-The Truth Tempest
Glad you guys found the Rachel video. I'll post about it later. Remember Clue #23!!!
Anyone uploaded a larger video file of this hack? I still can't access anything (despite clearing cache, hitting refresh a gazillion times and trying various different things instead of www) and the only video I've seen was too low quality to actually read anything of the writting other then a handful of words.
louie Good Question, but research has been done showing savant abilities can be produced artificially with magnetism. I have some info about it posted here:
http://users.newblog.com/thinbluemime/?post_id=5581
Well with the Speaker, and possibly the others PTB deleting comments from the ITE blogs, this is one of the few places safe to post information withoiut cencorship.
First, I haven't completely read ALL of the posts, so sorry if this has already been answered.
I was able to view the hack twice (once with a different browser) and I took a bunch of screen captures the 2nd time. I posted them all at Ringo (the Lost Experience), and on the Jay and Jack Forum, under The Lost Experence and LEP 6/16/06 or something like that.
They are pretty big images, so they should help. I did take caps of ALL the date changes and you can see what goes missing and when.
-kat
Thank you Matt the Pale. I've been only lightly skimming the posts so far until I could get to see it for myself. With my local ISPs crappy cache issues I've not been able to access it directly. So now I can take in all the posts and post my own conclusions. Here we go...
Rachael does sound like Persephone I'll give you that. I need to find an audio snippet of P really to look at it for myself. But I'll give you, it is possible.
But I also don't see much in the broadcast that we didn't already know. With that in mind, if it is genuine, why would posts about it be removed? If it was legit and slipped out too early why do anything about it?
Anyway, off that topic for a sec, my current theory on Mittlewerk and Hanso is simply that Hanso is Mittlewerk. Hanso is old, but has something strange in his blood and apparently is at least a little aware of it because he didn't want blood tests done.
Being devils advocate to my own theory, I can't explain why they didn't just fake Hanso death. But then if they planned a long term removal or imprisonment surely they'd fake his death there too. So where does that leave us? Why would you leave people wondering where Hanso is unless you plan for him to come back? Why would he need to be temporarily removed? If it is temporary why transfer powers to Mittlewerk? Hmm....
did anyone record what they saw and post it anywhere? i was out of town and missed this hack and now i can't get to it because of the shutdown - help!
Is the Hanso site now shut out to everyone, even those of us who were not able to get into the latest clue over the weekend? I have tried every suggestion in the comments here and all I have seen is the black/red "this site has been hacked" message. I want to see what everyone else has seen! Help???
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