Clue #57 - Orientation Testing Issue 1980 & thejeepchannel video & savejoop update
Dharma Clue:
If you stare at Hanso foundation site (black screen with red logo) for awhile, this flashes up under the logo: "orientation testing issue 1980". Naturally, check out:
http://www.thehansofoundation
Can't tell what's going on in the video? Matt the Pale & Mochi to the rescue...check this out. Great use of flickr.com by the way! Or look at this collage.
new thejeepchannel video:
This video went up on YouTube. Interesting and confusing at the same. Read those beautiful comments for a transcript containing an apology to DJDan and an implication about the Jeep Contracts from Clue #34.
savejoop.com update
The petition went over 10,000 signatures on the same day Rachel mentioned Joop in her video...but I'm pretty sure the boys won't send it in to The Hanso Foundation until they are sure they have 10,000 legitimate signature. They've caused quite a stir though and I wouldn't be surprised if Hanso beats them to the punch with a response...Aren't we due some info about Joop?
Thanks to Nima Baniamer & PaKuaKid2 for being the first to email. Also thanks to Matt the Pale, Mochi, and others for grabbing screen caps.
149 Comments:
I am in a state of shock by how fast the game is going!!! I love it!!
Peace & Namaste
i think the card says "evident agenda" which is the rachel blake password.
Damn. And here is me going off to bed. Well. Not a lot here I dont think. Not as much as the rachel blake think. Seems that all the pictures I noticed were ones from looking into the flash files. Seems they may have wanted us to look at the pictures (but not the passwords obviously). Oh well. I will see what you all have had to say in the morning. Dont get me wrong. I am excited by it; I am sure I didnt catch all the pics. As admin are saying. A link to all the pictures would be nice. Catch you all tomorrow.
PS Unless there is something more to this clue that points us elsewhere then I really will miss it all. Ach.
the guy in the video looked a little like Gerald DeGroot. From the dharma initiative.
I think I saw a real living Swan on a lake in there. And of course the Dharma wheel.
Will watch again now
If the card says evident agenda then I guess that is it. Clue wrapped up. (just hoping I dont miss too muh. Sorry people).
I think we've seen most of the pictures before elsewhere. Can't wait until someone captures them. Well, does this strengthen the theory that the Others are DI people?
The thing in the Dharma testing Logo looks like some guy with a mustache.
y'know, the distorted face woman on persephone's page looks like the woman who welcomes you (used to, anyway) to the THF site.
There is a shot of someone holding a card.
It says Evident Agenda!
You can see a screen shot here: http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/3549/dharma13pe.jpg
I saw: shark, ships wheel, man's torso, Joop, helicopter, minifridge with cans in it, satelite dish, flowers, group of people, pig...
I'm dizzy!
I think the rumbling sound was the same one from season two finale, and I saw a mans upper torso, and what seemed like some kind outline of the facility on the island
if someone could get the clue up in quicktime format you could stop at all the images. i've seen this done on lostlinks and the message board.
these seem simular to me somehow
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y21/PyscoUno/lost/samelogo.jpg
How long is a while? How long does it take for the link to come up?
Thank you, Matt and Belly.
ooooh yeah freaky
WOW!! And of course I am leaving soon and all this cool stuff is happening!!!
Peace & Namaste
A lot of those pics are hard to describe. Is #5 a distorted cat face? What disgusting goop is that in #2? Is there an antenna in that plane pic #6? #10 is another distorted animal.
aded - i for one believe it is in game. the person who posted that vid is the same one who did others that were linked to in game sites.
lj: Good catch. I agree with you. I've seen that pic before in relation to the loch ness monster.
i think the guy in the video is gerald degroot.
Here's what I got for a transcript from the video:
"I have no business coming ut like this, but I need to clear the air on something. Consider this my public apology to DJ Dan. I hope the wrong person will make it right soon. _____________I must stay away for a while, but keep digging. Jeep rescinded the contract for good reason. I'm proud of that, and will reveal what I know, when I can. Thank you, _________, you're a true believer."
maybe the video is the guy who did the threatening call to DJDAN in his podcast a few weeks ago.
maybe it's peter thompson.
never mind. i didnt see adadmat's post.
i thought it looked like gerald degroot. a little.
Thanks, adedmat. I just couldn't get "maestro48". Who could that be?
This might be the guy who threatened DJ Dan. Although, maybe it's in reference to the fact the DJ made such a big deal of driving a Jeep Compass.
what was the sympbol in the middle of the dharma logo at the beginning of the film?!?!?!?!?
The other thing it seems like is a "how do you feel?" test. That's not what they would be officially called, but it's common practice in psych experiments to flash a bunch of images at a subject and then see if their perspective or mood has changed.
the second photo or organs.......I am almost positive that those are shark eggsacks (was a marine biologist in a former life)
is maestra a player? I have not come across it before here or at ITE, but I don't check the fuselage or tailsection as much
You know, something just hit me. I think it'd be fun if we started another blog/forum about the Lost Experience, but we role-play and look it at as a reality. We post and act like we really do live inside the LOST world. The plane crash was real, and all of teh events...really did happen.
Something like the message board from RoT, except with real people.
I just thought it might be fun to do, and even more fun for people who didnd't know who we were to come and read our posts.
If anyone is interested, please contact me at mstksg@gmail.com .
I don't remember seeing the symbol inside the Psych Dharma logo. Is it the back of someone's head?
it looks too distorted to be the back of someones head.
We can conclude that this video is NOT one of the Orientation Videos that we have seen in the Pearl or the Swan (in the TV series), becuase in those they are listed as "Orientation - The ____ - # of 6". This video seems to be of a different format, and has a different purpose/usage.
and maven - When I first saw it, that's what I thought it was. But now as I concentrate it more, I realize taht I'm not sure what it is.
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jake - If you enter any word into Subylmonal, it pops up with phrases frmo sources such as wikipedia and a bunch of online dictionaries. I don't think that "Rachel" is anything special.
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I'm looking for a good way to rip the video so that I can slow it down frame by frame and record each image. I'll keep everyone up to date on if it works and if I can compile a list.
Erissaga: Exactly. The same thing I saw. Looks very dated.
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lots of screengrabs for this clue here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tinabina/
goingdark, that video has been around for a while now. it's a total fake.
going dark - Jake is right. It's been confirmed that the video is just a fan video. After all, where is The Pearl?
Well, it is a part of the video. Anyone who watched the video should have seen it, unless they accidentally closed their browser or something.
I've ripped about 40 different frames from the orientation video so far and will be hosting them on flickr as soon as I set up an account for it.
hey shrodes, that's awesome
i still be grabbing frames and putting them up on flickr
mochi hopefully has some better grabs than me! ;-)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tinabina/
tina: I'll have the first 35+ up in a couple minutes. I'll link my new flickr here and then add you as a friend so that people can jump to similar caps. Best of luck!
shrodes: The link didn't work, but could you have screen capped the hands holding the card that says "evident agenda" on it?
First post here. I dunno about you guys, but I thought that the DHARMA logo face was Hanso's? Anyone see a similarity?
The first batch of my captured screens are right here. Enjoy. More will be posted as I managed to pick out unique images.
Thanks mochi! Those are great captures!
mochi: Thanks for the images. The row of poles almost look like mechanical pencils with eraser tips stuck in something.
thanks mochi! those do rock!
Yo Mochi, thanks for the pics. Those schematics... they aren't of a certain hatch, are they?
You're welcome, everyone!
The number of captures has jsut been nearly doubled. Now's the time to check and compare.
I'm off to eat dinner.
Good luck, all.
Make progress while I'm off.
Find that clue buried in there.
Hey found this transcipt on another forum....LOL
Originally Posted by lab5
Transcript:
I have no business coming out like this, but I need to clear the air on something. Consider this my public apology to DJ Dan. I had the wrong person and will make it right soon. To the believers, I must stay away for awhile, but keep digging. Jeep rescinded the contract for good reason. I'm proud (or part?) of that and will reveal what I can, when I can. Thank you (Minister48?), your a true believer.
We need to get a still of those medicine bottles and see what they say...also there appears to be some still of scientists or at least people in some sort of protective helmet all crowded around looking down on something...that might be interesting...bet we recognize some of the faces in that group picture too!
I'm not sure if this is "in-game" or not but following a Google serach fro Jerry Hoffit from the Rachel Blake site I found this video at
http://www.americanfilms.com/play.cfm?clipid=243&cid=5
Supposedly done in 1965 they talk about nano-technology and the Hanso Foundation. Might be worth a look.
Hey Pale or Mochi...
Am I just crazy or were there some close ups of what looked like prescription bottles in the orientation video?
Also, doesn't it look like the middle guy in the group photo has his face blacked out or something???
eventho i got no props for starting to post my caps in flickr ... haha, just kiddin', no worries,
i have a 60+ screen grabs from the video in my flikr album. will post more later. now time for sleepies.
oh yeah, don't forget to check out the dharma shark. you can see the logo clearly on the tail!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tinabina/171085181/
I've just updated with appx. 20 more images on my flickr.
witchitawrangler: I say one frame with a close up of a beaker full of fluid and another close up of a perscription bottle. I have yet to capture either.
tina: Excellent collection, tina, and good job on finding some of the ones my fingers have miissed. Bumrush on not getting creditted yet either. hehe
Who wants to bet that there are 108 unique frames shown during the video? That would just be funny. Tina and I are both up to 70+ a piece, with a few unique catches to each of us.
Also, this is by far the most interesting one I've seen. LOOK. NUMBERS.
overlayed numbers
great work on those pics Tina, Mochi and Matt... I'll check them out more thoroughly later.
Is it just me or this is shaping as a big week again?
Let's hope so. If even one of those pictures has a clue in it, then it's 2 hours well spent.
I'l browsing over the other sites for anything else that might have been updated, as well.
taiwanguy ... duly noted!
lavenda, mr bankhead gracie!
mochi, we rock. i bet you are right about the 108 pics. i am just over 90 now. but REALLY must sleep now. darn lost experience obsession
lost sleep obsession ;) Sleep well
the shark photo... is it not the one on DJDan's website??? Which is supposed to be recent. More time warp or did someone stuff the continuity up (surely they knew we'd pick this apart)?
taiwanguy: Huh? My name? "Mochi"? It's a mashed-up Japanese rice paste used for snacks and holidays.
cipher: Is this the same sort of static that occurs on the main Hanso page? The sound of static at certain minutes of each hour (15, 16, 23, 42, etc)?? I'll sit around for a few minutes and investi-ma-gate.
EDIT: OH THAT. I can't pick anything up, but stare at the main logo and it says something like "Don't believe the lies." It's always been like this, though, hasn't it?
mr.bankhead: Nothing so far. I mean, a lot are simply reproductions of pictures from all the various sites. Joop's ugly mug, the mapinguari, the swans, a boar, Alvar Hanso's shadow-laden window shot, the radio tower in the ocean, shots of the 815 flight over the ocean, the tattooed shark... A lot of these are simply duplicates..
But, then again, some of these are merely pictures of seemingly random objects. Explosions, the Australian outback, clouds, a guy in a hazmat suit.
The one that really intregues me is the redish picture with the randomly overlayed pictures and numbers on it.
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pharmacopaeia: argh. Your name is a hassle to type out. hehe
Anyhoo, I just sat through her video again. What dewdrop necklace? I see a necklace, but it's mostly covered by her shirt for the duration of the video.
pharmacopaeia: True true. That's what has me ignoring work so much. Deadlines overdue and I'm busy searching for a needle in a digital haystack for clues that might not even exist.
I'm resting on this until lunch. Back to work for me.
http://www.myspace.com/louielovesya
Probably a funny Joke, but I saw this on myspace.com and it made me laugh! It's Joop Related!
Last note. I still think the chiming notes on the P page mean something. It's too clever, catchy, and bold to be there for no reason.
The nuclear tests are one at the NTS, possibly cactus (small bomb buried deeply), as well as two pacific test images of large bombs. The large mushroom cloud is from the test series Castle, shot Bravo. This was the largest american bomb test ever, at about 15 MT. But this was hardly the largest ever: the russians detonated a bomb at over 40 MT.
Shocking. I've never been so frustrated at being dragged out to pubs and have people round my house, I haven't been able to spend some proper time on this and all this crops up. Argh. I will be on the case tommorow though and I'll have a good look (and listen) at it all. My copy of Bad Twin finally turned up too, woot.
On the savejoop.com site, if you keep it open for a while there is a really quick sound clip. I am not sure if this has been noticed before or if it is new. I can't figure out what it is saying, any ideas?
http://www.lostlinks.net/orientationtest-q.htm
lostlinks have got a video of the orintation in 3 formats so you can now pause at each picture yays ^_^
I have the orientation_testing_issues_1980 video up on YouTube if anyone want to watch it.
Sorry if someone already has this up.... I still haven't caught up on all the comments.
oh yea the arrow things at the side (quicktime)click them and you can flick through it frame by frame
yeah but i thought zeldman either owned blogs or is just a designer they used to make her site so not in game.
oh noes now theres going to be people complaining that we're puppets because of the advertisemnts used in the game *drinks sprite* mmmm refreshing ;D
oh but Zeldman bags Verizon, that's funny :D
I am not so into this game as others but check out this blog to see whats up weekly, anyway yesterday at the dentists office they put out the new PC Gamer and another new computer gaming magazine (Computer Gaming maybe?). I can't rememeber which one but it said something at the bottom of one of the editorials about being from one of Hurley's dreams and David something. I am not sure if this is relevant to anything new or they were just referencing the Lost Experience, or just Lost in general. Cheers if this helps.
-Kamal
helloooo..... anyone there???
well, you'll see this when you log on later anyway. i found some hidden text on the rachel "my european trip" blog. it says "my european holiday". don't know if it's significant or if we should start anagramming etc... PLEASE RESPOND!!
Marcus, my guess is that the video was supposed to be the way we discovered the rachel blake video,and since monster posted it early they dumped it out in an attempt to get us all caught up! The video while interesting was probably just the last clue in act one.
rachelblake just posted this on her blog
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which is rot13 for
I need help foundation closing in im hurt and scared my laptop has 10 minutes of battery i need help if i dont make it THF cannot go unnoticed it was worse than i thought what i scratched on was the tip of the ice berg it goes so much deeper and it gets so much worse. lets rock, shall we
followed by
Gurer urer, Tbbqolr
which is rot13 for:
There here, Goodbye
So I was checking out the signatures on Joop's petition and #9597 is signed "Rachel Blake - Copenhagen (for now)"
go to:
http://stophanso.rachelblake.com/index2.html
click on comments to Copenhagen post 2, it's toward the bottom
Rachel keeps writing in some sort of code on her site, anyone know how to decipher it?
how do we help Rachel Blake?!?!
raechel:
i posted what she said. it was in rot13.
her comments were deleted at her blog, tho.
doh! looks like i fell for it. it wasn't the real rachel. her name was in blue and clickable yesterday, this one was in black.
now the real mel0drama's in there!
oxillini - not the real mel either... Keep in mind that anyone can post as anything on that board. The "real" Rachel and mel0drama will show up in blue like yesterday. They are both registered users with profiles. If the names show up in black, somebody just typed that name into the "other" box for the comment.
if savejoop is in game then surely it doesnt matter who signs the petition but reaching the number that counts
oo7surge:
yeah, i fell for it. not sure on how to tell if it's a real mel0drama post, though. that was is black yesterday too. rachel was definitely in blue.
*hits self on head
so the melodrama post was fake. the real mel has a capital D and will show in black. guess i'll just keep hitting refresh.....
moxy:
i agree, that's what's so maddening about the way her blog is set up. no way to tell who's really who. doesn't seem very secure does it? what's your opinion on the alvar hanso blog? can't find anything stating it is in game or fake.
moxy:
i agree on the alvar blog. doesn't seem like something a (sick or dead) recluse would do.
moxy:
yeah, i'm keeping on eye open over there too. i'm not sold until the real Rachel replies.
*twiddles thumbs
it's a train wreck. is that what was intended?
moxy: lunchtime here! gotta heat up my spaghetti-o's!
Back to the grind. And by grind, I mean hitting refresh every 20 seconds.
we're all slaves to the mighty f5 :D
mel and rachel are talking in her blog comments again. could be real this time. belly, which blogger profile number is the real rachel?
it's on!
great job belly!
NICE.
that does seem like the THF intro lady.
Hopefully she is initially only allowing anonymous posts so they can filter out the idiot's ip addresses. Then it'll be a more serious blog.
FYI: Rachel Blake's blogger user id is 24791317
Anyone else posting as "Rachel Blake" in the comments of her blog is fake.
hmmmmmmmmmm
interesting jason, we've heard that before.
thanks belly,
that comments section on her blog is retarded. though i do see you all over it, making some 'white noise'.
keep it up.
morgana, i heard the ninja confirmed it, but cant find it...???
HOWEVER,
though the ninja is 'in game' it doesn't mean he's always RIGHT.
I havent fully caughtup on comments here but I dont remember seeing this.
In rachels comments at 12.04am she said something else
Rachel Blake said...
Help. In trouble. mel0drama. Lies.
It was the Rachel. Does it mean anything?
Is the the site we have to check for new rachel videos?
The chopper: Guys, FWIW, the helicopter pictured looks like a Vietnam-era Huey. I couldn't swear, but goddammit, I've see n a lot of war movies and that looks like a Huey. :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UH-1_Iroquois
Right. I feel I have caught up but where are you getting these updated comments from. I thought there was only the two comments sections on http://stophanso.rachelblake.com/index2.html and I cannot find any new posts.
And Belly:
the one I posted above WAS posted by Rachel. It had her blogger ID AND linked to HER profile. Surely it must have been her. It was found in the comments of Copenhagen post 01.
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spitfire436, NICE CATCH.
There's the freaky noises, then calliope music (like on a carousel), then more freaky noises, then more calliope music, and then the voice (about two, three minutes in?). I'm not sure it's saying eyes mouth ears, but it does appear to be human speech. I hear "murder" and "melt" or "mouse" as much as anything else. Maybe one of our audio experts could pull something better?
Freaky deaky.
BTW, since classical myth (Persephone, Penelope) seems so prevalent lately, yall might want to look at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calliope
Belly. I have doublechecked and it WQAS rachel who made that post about melodramas lies.
AND
Rachel said: Mel, I think I've lost them...will post again soon.
IIt is the only post of rachels I can find on the new comments over there but according to belly there have been a few. I am confused. And afain the comment I quoted linked to the same rachel that wass talking yesterday.
I am extremely confused. Have to go out for a bit now but hope things are more clear when I return.
Surely that means the originals are fake too unless you know something I do not. Do you belly? cos I am totally confused.
I agree that for melodrama but rachel has a blogger ID. If that was the real rachel yesterday (it must be because the comments were moved to the main blog) then surely anybody who posts with that same id number and same profile has to be here also.
Unless someone knows how to fake that but it seems to me that unless you could hack the blog site somehow this would not be possible.
roomforhuman. I could link you to the rachel video if you can wait 20mins or so for me to upload it. I do not have the jeep one though.
OK belly. Thanks for that. Point taken then and sorry but I just couldnt understand it. And roomforhuman it did link to my profile.
I dont like it though. I guess there is little point looking over those comments then. I havent yet and see no point now. Phew. If anything interesting could be fake. I think I will just watch her main blog page now and ignore comments. Great to know. THANKS A LOT BELLY. You ROCK.
Off to ROT. nice one lainie
Interesting.
Just so you do not need to check at ROT or cannot
"BroadBandBeatnik
8:58am Did you guys see . . .
DSLerator
9:00am Don't say it they might be watching.
iobiSeeingYou
9:04am I think sniffing servers is making you totally paranoid.
Fiberoptician
9:06am We know we know what story you're talking about.
DSLerator
9:09am Yeah. It was time to tell that old tale.
Fiberoptician
9:10am Last night a DJ saved your life?
DSLerator
9:12am He is in the same room... and he's really in deep. ;-)
iobiSeeingYou
9:14am ???? I don't have time for this.
BroadBandBeatnik
9:16am Tick-tock. Like that movie with Eddie Murphy.
iobiSeeingYou
9:20am Trading Places?
DSLerator
9:23am No. It's with Nick Nolte.
iobiSeeingYou
9:30am Oh. I see what the deal is now.
Fiberoptician
9:38am Finally! I'm tired of hinting.
iobiSeeingYou
9:40am W h a t e v e r. Good editing Beatnik. Very suspenseful.
BroadBandBeatnik
9:45am Well, all I'm saying is she's totally hot in that pizza outfit.
DSLerator
9:53am You're just saying that because she looks like that new intern... Kate... in accounting.
BroadBandBeatnik
9:56am What?
Fiberoptician
9:58 am Don't deny it, we saw you coming by her desk like eight times to ask questions about doing expense reports.
BroadBandBeatnik
10:00am Dude. No.
iobiSeeingYou
10:01 am Whatever.
BroadBandBeatnik
10:02am I'm not talking to you guys no more.
what happens 48 hours from now?
roomforhuman:
I couldnt upload the rachel vid as longer than 3 mins. Soyrry about that. I shoul have read the small print. If I find out how I will do it.
My bet is the guys are talking about a new Rachel video being placed on Verizon's servers. Their bosses told them to find her "sniff her out." Guess I'll find out if I'm right in 48 hours.
roomforhuman:
WHAT AM I TALKING ABOUT. I can give you the link from where I downloaded it. DUH!
Quicktime mov is here
wmv is here
Just right click the link and choose save target as (internet explorer)
It doewsnt sound to me from the latest update to ROT that iobseeingu is rachel/persephone.
I THINK
I never heard that before jennk. VERY INTERESTING. You had better be for real. (sorry - has to be said when something like this comes up)
I you are gen then you are famous by proxy.
Thing is jennk:
I dont see how you could prove it unless lots of others report the same thing. How did you start chatting? Doesnt seem to be anything in the way of clues anyway.
chaserace. I havent seen that link but I would say it was probably fake. And frankly I would NOT TRUST ONE LINK in the comments over there.
We need to find Rachel's new video. there's a message on her blog that takes you to ROT. It seems that 48 Hours is a clue to finding the video, but I don't know any more than that.
SweetScrapper
was anyone able to find a way to get to the new RB video yet. the ROT site isn't working for me.
Yes belly. They must be aware of the problem so they wouldnt use the comments any more. Or if they did it would appear on the main page anyway so I say - forget the comments. Belly. what do you think of the aol chat with iobseeingu?
jessiepao:
It has come up. It was moved there a while ago. You may be right about DJDan or wrong. It doesnt say anything for sure.
arerosesred:
Thanks for that info on hacket. Much appreciated.
i think the new video might be on broadband stories. i'm checking it there now.
And I agree for the moment that the ONLY thing that seems to come from ROT is the another 48hrs. It was kinda cryptic and everything else seemed perfectly ordinary. Something will probably happen before then somewhere though. Or maybe we will get a 2 day rest. I need it.
her video is the "ultimate journey" vid with Chris and Erin.
Jeez! the vid is awesome. we see more pics of Mittelwekr, we find out about a shipping company, and all this crazy stuff.
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ninja has posted that his "Persephone is Rachel Blake!" is just his deductions :( So we still don't know for sure
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http://images.passafist.multiply.com/song/1/13/full/U2FsdGVkX1995OdKgsKdtpFdiyTzC72VdqFavJtvfrV1s7v8CSM7FA==/Jeep%20add%20audio.mp3
This is the link for the Jeep Ad audio. I was able to raise the pitch and speed up the voice, so it sounds as close to natural as possible.
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