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Clue #58 - Rachel Blake Copenhagen Post 02

Rachel's posted her second video. Sort of...You've got to find it...then watch it...then discuss. Her post leads you to Retrievers of Truth ("porter" password to Message Boards) which connects you to Broadband Stories. Click on the "Ultimate Journey" one. Second Row, Third Column.

Her posts seem to be organic (kinda like the ones on this blog) so check HER BLOG often. She has an interesting cell phone pic from inside the shipping archives and has welcomed the Black Rock into the Experience with the implication that the Hanso foundation was "built on the backs of slaves."

Thanks to Sean for finding it and emailing us!

286 Comments:

Blogger Matt the Pale said...

I still can't believe they referenced Kate on the RoT forums...

6/20/2006 03:59:00 PM  
Blogger Matt the Pale said...

Lol, someone just said "Oh no! Rachel's wearing a red shirt -- she's gonna die"

6/20/2006 04:01:00 PM  
Blogger barishiman said...

Broadbandstories - Ultimate Journey

Its the motorcycle one

6/20/2006 04:01:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

we gotta find the vid still, right?... there's still a riddle to be solved?

6/20/2006 04:02:00 PM  
Blogger TiltaWhirlGirl said...

I'm a serious lurker and this is my first ever post anywhere, but I just wanted to say, this is getting so addicting and I agree with MTP, whoa on the Kate reference.

6/20/2006 04:02:00 PM  
Blogger silverat said...

i think it's already solved

6/20/2006 04:02:00 PM  
Blogger Pwyll said...

7th!

6/20/2006 04:03:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

not first then. damn. I will bring some of my older comments.

And I agree for the moment that the ONLY thing that seems to come from ROT is the another 48hrs. It was kinda cryptic and everything else seemed perfectly ordinary. Something will probably happen before then somewhere though. Or maybe we will get a 2 day rest. I need it.

Yes belly. They must be aware of the problem so they wouldnt use the comments any more. Or if they did it would appear on the main page anyway so I say - forget the comments. Belly. what do you think of the aol chat with iobseeingu?

jessiepao:
It has come up. It was moved there a while ago. You may be right about DJDan or wrong. It doesnt say anything for sure.

arerosesred:
Thanks for that info on hacket. Much appreciated.

6/20/2006 04:03:00 PM  
Blogger Damn the Man said...

Here

The motorcycle video is her.

6/20/2006 04:04:00 PM  
Blogger Damn the Man said...

Sorry. I didn't catch the link, already. :( But, I recorded the audio and will have it uploaded if anyone wants it.

6/20/2006 04:06:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

Allied Copenhagen Marine Merchants Shipping company... why would Mittlewerk be involved?... hmmmm..

6/20/2006 04:06:00 PM  
Blogger Pwyll said...

Aww, we just found it on IRC XD

6/20/2006 04:07:00 PM  
Blogger jacob's place said...

We know it's on Retrivers of truth somewhere, It's not that big right? She said it was password protected, so that makes me think you 'gotta put a password in the e-mail box. I wonder..........

6/20/2006 04:07:00 PM  
Blogger Matt the Pale said...

jacob's place

Hello. Check the third comment. The bideo is on the Broadband Stories website. Masquerading as "Ultimate Journey."

6/20/2006 04:08:00 PM  
Blogger Damn the Man said...

The shipping company probably has to do with the Off-shore program thing.

6/20/2006 04:09:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

wiz: she never replied about how she got in contact with them... not sure what to think of it... they have had plants interacting with us players now, so it's possible, that fact makes it easier for someone to fake it

6/20/2006 04:09:00 PM  
Blogger natevoodoo said...

48 hrs is the movie with eddie murphy and nick nolte.
the only time reference i remember is the OBEY clock that linked to sublymonal.com whenever the time included one of the numbers 4,8,15,16,23,42

6/20/2006 04:09:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

So how was it found anyone? is another 48 hours or 48 hours a password somehow?

6/20/2006 04:10:00 PM  
Blogger jacob's place said...

hey whadid that jeep guy say? "thanks master 48" or something maybe the pass has to do with that?

6/20/2006 04:10:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Oh. I see. It came from rachels blog site. How did we know to click the motorbike one?

6/20/2006 04:12:00 PM  
Blogger SweetScrapper said...

The best place to hide something is right under our noses

DSLerator
3:00pm Heh. By the way. Guess who I just hooked up with a BB story?

I think DSLerator=mel0drama

SweetScrapper

6/20/2006 04:12:00 PM  
Blogger noblelawyer said...

speaking of superfluous comments, the fact that I have been able to get in the commetns in the top 10 and 20 lately is a serious indication of how little work I am getting done!

6/20/2006 04:13:00 PM  
Blogger jacob's place said...

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6/20/2006 04:14:00 PM  
Blogger TiltaWhirlGirl said...

Noblelawyer- Me too I've had a lurking problem and now I'm starting to post. It's not going to get any better from here on out. Seriously, no work done today.

6/20/2006 04:15:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

That was a weird vid jacobs place. I would like to know how it was found and if it is in game. Looks like sub zero (mortal kombat)witha goauld (stargate) voice.

Seems so off the ball that it couldnt be real.

6/20/2006 04:16:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

6/20/2006 04:16:00 PM  
Blogger natevoodoo said...

sweetscrapper:
that comment was reffering to the DJ Dan BB story. Not rachel.
I think it's still weird that 48 hours was supposed to lead us to the motorcycle.
if anyone understands holla

6/20/2006 04:17:00 PM  
Blogger jacob's place said...

matt the pale sorry about that didnt catch your comment thanks !

6/20/2006 04:19:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

i think its odd that she would just leave her video out on BroadbandStories for anyone to see. There is no password or anything.

6/20/2006 04:20:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

This is a screen shot (tiny one) of the delivery dude... not sure if that's what's sposed to "trip our wires" or not...

6/20/2006 04:20:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

And LOL. All the fuss we make at getting number one. And Matt the pale. Cool as ever. Casually comments on the game at hand. Nice one matt.

6/20/2006 04:20:00 PM  
Blogger WichitaWrangler said...

What is this Kate reference I'm reading about on ROT???

6/20/2006 04:21:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

And nice one belly on the delivery guy. Everybody in denmark order pizza right now.

6/20/2006 04:24:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

The kate reference could just be a coincidence. I assume it is making you all think of Kate from the show. Or am I missing another Kate?

6/20/2006 04:24:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

if it comes with a side of rachel, I'll take mine with extra cheese.... hellooooooooo Namaste

6/20/2006 04:24:00 PM  
Blogger TiltaWhirlGirl said...

Belly0fdesire, when is comic-con?

6/20/2006 04:25:00 PM  
Blogger Matt the Pale said...

I made a copy of the video in case it disappears.

6/20/2006 04:25:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

tiltawhirlgirl:Comic-Con is July 20th through the 23rd...

matt: good idea... that tends to happen quite often with these clues

6/20/2006 04:28:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

nice one matt: And belly, yes, what is comic con.

And belly; down boy. I have to say though that rachels performance in this one was a lot better. I didnt find her any where near as annoying.

6/20/2006 04:30:00 PM  
Blogger arerosesred said...

Well, www.alliedcopenhagenmarinemerchants.com is parked with Yahoo, but not on the Whois yet. And it is not a real company, or even showing up on google, which makes me think that there is now some intern googling all these things beforehand to make sure that there isn't something it could be confused with. They may have gotten some complaints from www.thf.org

Rose

6/20/2006 04:30:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

And I read about comic con now so it ok thanks. you dont need to reply. Unlwss you think it may have some relevance to this which I may not be aware.

6/20/2006 04:32:00 PM  
Blogger WichitaWrangler said...

You wouldn't believe how many darn website you actually get of REAL companies by combining just a couple of the words in Allied Copenhagen...

6/20/2006 04:33:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

nice work arerosesred

6/20/2006 04:34:00 PM  
Blogger TiltaWhirlGirl said...

Wizardy_eas, the official lost podcast said that there would be something happening in relation to comic-con and TLE. Were you aware of that?

6/20/2006 04:34:00 PM  
Blogger minipulator said...

If anyone who's good with flash decompiling can do so, I would greatly appreciate a download-able copy of the Rachel #2 video. I've been playing a bit with it, but because of the way the files are layed out I'm having a bit of a tough time.

6/20/2006 04:34:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

Comic Con is a HUGE comic book convention in San Diego. There are a LOT of vendors there, comic book companies, television networks, etc. Last year JJ Abrams, Damon Lindeloff, Josh Holloway and Maggie Grace gave a question and answers session, but it looks like this year Hurley might be there. You see preview screenings of movies, get lots of free stuff and get to see lots of celebrities. Last year, we saw Lurch from the adams family movies, Rob Zombie and the cast of Devils Rejects, Josh and Maggie, as I said, Seth Green, Kevin Smith... I could go on and on listing them... In this podcast they state that they will have a big announcement to make regarding the Hanso Foundation at the con this year, so it should be good. I'll report back with pictures and possibly video the night after they do whatever it is they are going to do... it's a blast every year... can't wait

6/20/2006 04:35:00 PM  
Blogger leelee2233 said...

i am just a bit confused, how did folks know the video was at Broadband stories? Did it have anything to do with the 48 hours reference or is that something else?

6/20/2006 04:35:00 PM  
Blogger Matt the Pale said...

Alright, I made a copy of this video. You can view or download it here:

http://members.aol.com/mattthepale/videos.html

6/20/2006 04:37:00 PM  
Blogger leelee2233 said...

Hey all RB is talking on her blog, pictures and everything!

6/20/2006 04:39:00 PM  
Blogger MSTK said...

Hm. Anyone else think that it would be fun to be posting on a forum/blog taht's laid out like Retriever's of truth? Like posting in role-play as if we were inside teh game, and the Hanso Federation was real. Like we live in a world where an evil corporation is trying to take over the world, or a world where the plane crash did happen for real.

I think it'd be fun. And even more so for the people who stumble upon us not knowing who we are.

Anyone want to help me set it up? My e-mail is mstksg@gmail.com ... my MSN is the same, and my AIM is mstkspongetron.

6/20/2006 04:39:00 PM  
Blogger Kenshiro2012 said...

Notice, that the door that the secretary went through was labeled "Archives" Rachel has been communicating with someone who goes by the name Mel0Drama. Supposedly he has the goods on our buddy Mittlewerk and company. He also is supposed to be working at an archive that is owned by the Hanso group. Hmmmm... wonder if there is a connection there.
Also, Rachel has updated her site. According to her latest blog, Mittlewerk left after dark, she conned the delivery guy and got into the place. Here are some links to the camera phone shots that she took of a computer that Mittlewerk seems to have been working on:
http://stophanso.rachelblake.com/img/comp/computer/one.JPG
http://stophanso.rachelblake.com/img/comp/computer/two.JPG

6/20/2006 04:39:00 PM  
Blogger minipulator said...

You. Are. My. Hero.

6/20/2006 04:39:00 PM  
Blogger srsizzy said...

Woah...I hope there's a lot of people taping whatever happens at comic-con. I would love to go, but alas, I'm a few hundred miles away.

Leelee2233: on Rachel's Blog she link to RoT which links to the Broadband Stories.

6/20/2006 04:40:00 PM  
Blogger Chaserace said...

Off topic of video, but on topic of Hanso.

I was looking at hansocareers.com, and i typed in a keyword and the same 5 jobs always pop up. The first one is a Personal Assistant, and the location of the job opportunity is in Copenhagen. And if you click on it, it tells about the job and that the assistant would work directly with Mittelwerk. This is not only interesting because of Copenhagen, but someone on the comments of Rachel's second post said they were applying to be Mittelwerk's personal assistant. Could have potential? Maybe??

6/20/2006 04:40:00 PM  
Blogger WichitaWrangler said...

new blog on rachel's site...with a picture that we need to zoom in on!

6/20/2006 04:41:00 PM  
Blogger jacob's place said...

dear belly of desire ....
Maybe the frame is like the "hole" pictures. Maybe you have to munipulate it some how????

6/20/2006 04:42:00 PM  
Blogger leelee2233 said...

thanks, srsizzy. so we can assume if she links to ROT then BBS are in play?

6/20/2006 04:44:00 PM  
Blogger jacob's place said...

hey, anyone if you have a copy of what that jeepchannel guy says post it I'd like to know and it might unveil some more stuff. I think it might be Rachel with a voice darth vader thingy. It doesn't sound human, the voice that is.

6/20/2006 04:47:00 PM  
Blogger ccs said...

I'm not sure I'm following correctly, so ignore this if it doesn't make sense, but ... Rachel agrees to let "Mel" host her video on a corporate mainframe, password protected, in exchange for her directing her "viewers" to his portal to view secret documents. So, did Mel hold up his end of that deal? There certainly isn't any password protection. Or are we supposed to assume that the ROT gang found the video on Mel's site and posted it for us at Verizon? That seems like a stretch. I don't really get it. I guess we'll have to wait to see if RB gives us a link to Mel's secret vault.

6/20/2006 04:48:00 PM  
Blogger harcar2001 said...

http://www.comic-con.org/cci/cci06prog_lost.shtml

6/20/2006 04:50:00 PM  
Blogger JmanII said...

I tried reading Rachel's Blog too much crap on there. Can someone please tell me if she gave the ROT site to look at or if it came from MEL.

6/20/2006 04:51:00 PM  
Blogger jacob's place said...

hey just been watching the 1980 psy test thing from dharma and the one slide shows a man holding a card that says evident agent the password for the Rachel site. I kno it's kinda late but I wonder if we'll be seeing that new dharma logo on the show. I heard if you reverse it you get a man laughing. I have a crappy cdomputer at the time so I can't reverse it could some one do that and post a link or somethintg i'd like to see if it was true

6/20/2006 04:55:00 PM  
Blogger oxillini said...

clicking on her video on stophanso.rachelblake.com takes you to ROT

6/20/2006 04:55:00 PM  
Blogger leolio said...

http://specialward.blogspot.com/ update too...

6/20/2006 04:55:00 PM  
Blogger MSTK said...

jmanii - the blog itself is good. It's just the comments section that's kind of haywire.

And her blog post told us to find the video "HERE", and she linked to RoT. She gave the location of her video as retrieversoftruth.com .

6/20/2006 04:56:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

leolio: please ignore that blog... it's a fake

6/20/2006 04:58:00 PM  
Blogger Interrobang! said...

is that http://specialward.blogspot.com/ site legit??

6/20/2006 04:58:00 PM  
Blogger Resin said...

When the video shows the back side of Mittlewerk's body he has an obviously fake ponytail and mop-top edited in ... Rachel's doing?

6/20/2006 04:59:00 PM  
Blogger JmanII said...

This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

6/20/2006 05:02:00 PM  
Blogger MSTK said...

iterrobang - no

resin - I think it was actually a low-flying bird that happened to land in a perch that was directly lying on our line of sight between mittlewerk and the camera.
But, for real. Neat, I never noticed that. I'm goign to go check it out. If it is, I'm not sure what to make of it.

6/20/2006 05:02:00 PM  
Blogger MSTK said...

i hate to double-post, but I'm not sure how to edit comments on Blogspot.


jmannii -- it was on her Copehagen Post 02, even before the Edit. It is her most recent post as of now.

ALSO --

Has anyone noticed that she mentions her plane trip back to America? Does this mean that her episode on Copenhagen is almost over? Or is this just an excuse to get out of a bad date?

6/20/2006 05:05:00 PM  
Blogger JmanII said...

MSTK Thanks again I found it when I started over, My apologies to all for acting like a noobie. Have to work this week so I am behind.
Belly,MTP,Wiz, Vex, and many others thank you for your dedicted work and obvious time spent here.

6/20/2006 05:09:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

I think it was an excuse to get out of a bad date...

The Speaker seems to be slipping quite a bit lately... he's referrencing the DJ Dan clip on broadbandstories? That's old news... unless he's just trying to give hints as to the whereabouts of the video, in which case, I wish he wouldn't...

6/20/2006 05:11:00 PM  
Blogger Matt the Pale said...

Magnus Hanos
Blackrock

http://pub16.bravenet.com/photocenter/album.php?usernum=1299859001&img=95999

6/20/2006 05:12:00 PM  
Blogger Interrobang! said...

mstk - probably just an excuse.

There's a user on Rachel's blog linking to here, http://pub16.bravenet.com/photocenter/album.php?usernum=1299859001&img=95999 . It talks about Magnus Hanso and his involvement in shipping. Looks like this user, jambi08, could be someone "in game".

6/20/2006 05:13:00 PM  
Blogger MSTK said...

It's hard to be labelling anything in-game that is found in the Comments section unless we have a Real Rachel confirming it almost immediately afterwards :(

They should really disable anonymous commenting.

6/20/2006 05:15:00 PM  
Blogger Matt the Pale said...

So Mittelwerk is trying to find the Blackrock? The last voyage of the Blackrock... which might tell him where a certain something is.

6/20/2006 05:16:00 PM  
Blogger Jack Gladney said...

Should she really be encouraging people to leave posts on her blog like that? I guess that means maybe a legit clue could still be posted in the comments, but how could anyone tell?

6/20/2006 05:20:00 PM  
Blogger TEAM Lena said...

On ROT forum:

I think they are also pointing to DJDan podcast to come! There is one scheduled for 6/21...

And what room are they refering to?

This forum is WAY TOO CRIPTIC!!! UGH!

6/20/2006 05:22:00 PM  
Blogger TEAM Lena said...

Oh yah, and for the Koontz lovers out there...

TICK TOCK!

HEHEHEHEHE

6/20/2006 05:22:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

So someone posted that book excerpt that matt posted about magnus hanso in the comments of rachels blog. My guess is that it is in game. Someone found it somehow properly. We do not know how yet but we will in time. This happens quite a lot. And the person who posted it was just someone who had come across this info from somewhere. It is the sort of thing you would want to email/post to rachel as it would seem pertinent to the current rachel findings.

I am saying this because if it is fake kit is a hell of a job. And so WHAT IS THE BOOK and where can I get a copy.

6/20/2006 05:23:00 PM  
Blogger Matt the Pale said...

wizardry_eas

The person who posted that book is just an in-game character

6/20/2006 05:24:00 PM  
Blogger MSTK said...

wizardry, I guess it's very possible that we may have a "slip" like we did with Rachel's first video.

But, remember that everything in TLE is essentially a "fake"...but just a "fake" backed by alot of money. So it should be just as easy for ABC to make that page as any old person with photoshopping skills. I doubt ABC just found that in a book somwhere.

6/20/2006 05:25:00 PM  
Blogger Matt the Pale said...

The Hanso Foundation re-purchased the East Ocean Trading group, which before, Magnus Hanso had been forced to sell to.

Magnus Hanso was a slave trader.

6/20/2006 05:26:00 PM  
Blogger MSTK said...

Ack, nevermind. I guess Rachel confirmed it.

I'm still holding true to my "everything in TLE is essentially an in-game fake" thing, though.

6/20/2006 05:27:00 PM  
Blogger Interrobang! said...

Anyone have any clue about that password Rachel's trying to come up with? I'm trying to find some sort of shipping logs online. These people on Rachel's blog are going in circles and not really helpful. They're saying "< 1900" is greater than 1900. Wow.

6/20/2006 05:29:00 PM  
Blogger me said...

umm the notes being played on persephones page are gfgcfgcfc dont know if it helps or not

6/20/2006 05:29:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

matt:
in game character. So are you saying that we really should be sifting through tose ridiculous comments on rachels site? I would have thought that if important you would get it on the main page. I guess this may still be true and if you REALLY want to be the first to know then you have to check the comments.

Do you have a fuller picture of how you know this matt so I can stop theorising?
And Thanks

6/20/2006 05:30:00 PM  
Blogger jacob's place said...

Hey guys who am I???

STUPID< STUPID< STUPID<
318 HF 4L
JOOP- STUBIDASOEAHAVN

no... not Jerry Seinfeld

6/20/2006 05:30:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

It seems that any clue that is legit ends up mentioned by Rachel in her blog.

6/20/2006 05:31:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

OK matt. I just checked the rachel blog. Tahnks for all you said though.

6/20/2006 05:31:00 PM  
Blogger MSTK said...

Nice use of a tuner, me :)

Maybe if we run that through an ROT13...nothign will happen.
Has anyone tried looking up the Melodic Contour/Parsons Code of that song and try to identify it? I'll give it a whirl.

...

Also, maybe Alvar Hanso and Magnus Hanso are one and the same? Hm...

6/20/2006 05:31:00 PM  
Blogger TEAM Lena said...

jacobs place:

rainman?

6/20/2006 05:32:00 PM  
Blogger arerosesred said...

Thanks Matt--

That is fascinating.

Rose

6/20/2006 05:32:00 PM  
Blogger me said...

actually i played it by ear. dont be elitist.

6/20/2006 05:33:00 PM  
Blogger jacob's place said...

Hey if you say my towns name fast enough without the ahavn part youll know...... oh cryptic....

6/20/2006 05:35:00 PM  
Blogger Matt the Pale said...

wizardry_eas said, "in game character. So are you saying that we really should be sifting through tose ridiculous comments on rachels site?"

Yes.

Now, then, here's what I've got:
-----------------------------------
Magnus Hanso owned New World Sea Traders. He had warships, trading vessels, and three slave ships, because slave trade was still common on the Indian Ocean.

In 1882, NWST was liquidated and sold to the East Ocean Trading Group, and the vessels were refitted to merchant ships. Magnus Hanso continued to sail each year after selling his company.

------------Quote from Rachel's Blog------------
Jambi08 said...
Sorry Rachel am having trouble with my ancient PC. As I was saying:

I've done some research on Dutch and Danish shipping. It's a hobby of mine. Over the years, I've also collected a number of rare and out-of-print works on the histories of these early trading companies. I believe I've come across some information that may shed light on what Mittelwerk was doing at the Allied Copenhagen Marine Merchants.

It seems that in the 1950s, the Hanso Group purchased a British-owned shipping company known as the East Ocean Trade Group, and renamed it the Allied Copenhagen Marine Merchants. Now, looking through one of my rare volumes on shipping history, I came across the following Ð- and you will see the names that caught my eye.
------------End Quote from Rachel's Blog------------

http://pub16.bravenet.com/photocenter/album.php?usernum=1299859001&img=95999


Also, look at this:
http://www.freewebs.com/shipwreckmate/index.htm

6/20/2006 05:35:00 PM  
Blogger katamarmom said...

I've been popping in and out the last few days so I don't know if anything came of the passward "figurehead". Sounds kind of ship like... Maybe what we need for Rachel, but where?

6/20/2006 05:36:00 PM  
Blogger lostluvr29 said...

The Black Rock is a pretty direct refence to the show!

6/20/2006 05:36:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Lena:

Hello . Good to see you.

AND

Rainman? Do you mean the film and why did you mention it?

6/20/2006 05:36:00 PM  
Blogger jacob's place said...

Hey what if the password is Black rock???

6/20/2006 05:37:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

There truly is no reason to even look at the comments in Rachel's blog... it's flooded with jerks that just want to ruin the game for everyone else.

It's too much of a pain to sift through the entire pile of puke to find the diamond. The diamonds will always be an in-game character and when there's something relevant said, it will be posted on the front page. She says to post our thoughts and theories in the comments to give it a deeper sense of realism, which is effective in that manner, but, since ANYONE can post as ANYONE on there, to save yourself from a headache, I suggest just looking at the front page for any updates, which seem to be happening quite frequently.

It's like the biggest idiots at teh futhelage spilled over into the Speaker's site and now they're spilling into Rachel's blog... I'm so glad they haven't polluted our home here...

6/20/2006 05:38:00 PM  
Blogger Matt Vicks said...

Magnus Hanso is Alvar Hanso's son. It said so on www.specialward.blogspot.com ages and ages ago.

I don't care what anyone says. This blog is legit.

6/20/2006 05:38:00 PM  
Blogger lostluvr29 said...

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6/20/2006 05:39:00 PM  
Blogger jacob's place said...

the whole family tree of the Hanso family isn't very nice is it ?

6/20/2006 05:40:00 PM  
Blogger leolio said...

Alvar's blog updated again in profile section (too much coincidence for me for not be in game, sorry but i want to believe Scully)

http://specialward.blogspot.com/2006_06_01_specialward_archive.html

6/20/2006 05:40:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

matt: very very very very very not legit... I'll say it a thousand times if that's what it takes to keep ppl on the right track...from which you are trying to lead them astray

6/20/2006 05:41:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Holy crap matt. That was an impressive answer. You are just the best. Really. I know it being an interest of yours and all but still. I dont know what you do for a living just now but you would make LOADS as a private detective.


THANKS. THANKS. THANKS.

I hope you are appreciated this much everywhere else you go. You are the man. So proud to have you on the team.

6/20/2006 05:41:00 PM  
Blogger Matt the Pale said...

belly0fdesire

Sorry, but you're wrong. If you'll notice, certain CHARACTERS respond to Rachel Blake in her blog. THOSE are the people that we should be looking for.

Jambi08 and terryidaho in her blog are two of those characters. If I'm wrong, I'll eat my hat.

6/20/2006 05:43:00 PM  
Blogger Interrobang! said...

Any of the blogs weve been linked to have come from a legit, confirmed in game site (RoT, hansofoundation.org, sublymonal). No in game confirmation means it doesnt count as of yet.

6/20/2006 05:43:00 PM  
Blogger katamarmom said...

Regarding Hanso's blog (Copenhage 9430)-I think it was not in game and got shut down. It says that Hanso "ceases to exist" and that he died peacefully in his home on 20/06/06.

6/20/2006 05:44:00 PM  
Blogger jacob's place said...

Hey guess what apparently Alvar died today in his home according to special ward. Guys guess what i'm gonna make a site called alltheawnserstoeverythingyouneedtoknowaboutwww.thehansofoundation.orgishere.blogspot.com and post Joop=persephone P.S. not really don't look 4 it

6/20/2006 05:44:00 PM  
Blogger WichitaWrangler said...

Man that blogspot sight about Hanso said he died...TODAY.

6/20/2006 05:45:00 PM  
Blogger Matt Vicks said...

Yeh but if you click on the profile update which was done ages ago it says he was survived by one son, Magnus who we now know is related to what Rachel is doing.

6/20/2006 05:47:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

NO... there is no point whatsoever to sift through the comments on Rachel's blog. They encourage us to post there to give us the sense of realism, but in fact, anything relevant that is posted will be posted from an in-game character. Rachel will not acknowledge anyone but in-game characters and in-game characters will not acknowledge anyone but Rachel. At this point, they are the only ones that can tell each other apart from the rest of the fools that have the intention of ruining our game. Once the script has been run through, whatever we need to pay attention to will be posted on the front page for us to see.

If you want to waste your time over there sorting through those comments and even participate in the childish banter, feel free to, but it will all be a waste of time.

Sorry if I sound bitter, but I've come to this realization and if you haven't yet, and my post doesn't convince you, then your frustration will later persuade you to see things my way.

word... and Namaste

6/20/2006 05:47:00 PM  
Blogger xander said...

Can someone post a link to the video? Matt The Pale's link does not work for me and I can't access the ROT site (never been able to in fact). Anyone else having this problem?

6/20/2006 05:48:00 PM  
Blogger roomforhuman said...

Has anyone else said anything about the Black Rock?

6/20/2006 05:48:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Belly: I agree. It's a waste of time to read through all that garbage. It seems whatever is ingame ends up posted by Rachel on her blog with links. Saves a lot of time.

6/20/2006 05:49:00 PM  
Blogger leolio said...

WichitaWrangler>>> yeah he died today and he is still actualising his blog for us. He's really a good guy ^^

Anyways no one has really check what he said about the pics 23 and 42? and what about the 4th, 8, 15, 16?

6/20/2006 05:49:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

If anyone needs me to prove my point, I can go have an entire conversation as Rachel, mel0drama, jambi08 and your mom to prove it... and everyone over there will eat the entire thing up and think that it's real. I can convince all of them, and even you of anything I want... Just watch the front page and you'll save yourself the headache of having to sort through this sort of thing for legitimate clues...

6/20/2006 05:50:00 PM  
Blogger katamarmom said...

xander - www.richerdeeperbroader.com

6/20/2006 05:50:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

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6/20/2006 05:50:00 PM  
Blogger Matt the Pale said...

belly0fdesire

I agree that there is a lot of crap on Rachel's blog, but if you had read more carefully and sifted through the comments, you would have discovered that the real Rachel only responds to certain posters on her blog. These are the people that we need to look for. If I have been taken in by a hoax, the by the gods, it's quite a damn elaborate hoax.

Sorry, but I just don't believe that people in our little group could or would fake being an expert in 19th-century Dutch and English shipping lines. Do you?

http://pub16.bravenet.com/photocenter/album.php?usernum=1299859001&img=95999

Is that a hoax, belly?

6/20/2006 05:51:00 PM  
Blogger Matt Vicks said...

wizardry eas i'm very sorry. I thought you were talking about me and being sarcastic.

I'll remove my post now.

6/20/2006 05:52:00 PM  
Blogger katamarmom said...

Belly and matt: to both your points Rachel has updated her blog with the information that Matt found in the comments. You're both right, and it seems to me that each person can choose how to handle the comments, either read them or wait.

6/20/2006 05:54:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

no, Matt, that's not a hoax, but it's posted on the front page of her blog now, along with terridaho's post... and I can go into the comments and post as Rachel blake and even post as you and people will think that you are having a conversation with her... gocheck it out now... you'll see

6/20/2006 05:54:00 PM  
Blogger Yakobus1 said...

ok, been working like crazy this week and am trying to catch up, but in between jr. high arguing and he said/she said, i'm sort of confused, so far i've seen Rachel's new vid and her blog, but where is this Black Rock, Magnus Hanso, and Slave trade info coming from?
Also, Magnus Hanso is mentioned on the Blast Door Map in the show.

6/20/2006 05:54:00 PM  
Blogger Matt the Pale said...

Vindication

6/20/2006 05:55:00 PM  
Blogger Matt the Pale said...

belly0fdesire

Can you really live with being a troll, yourself?

6/20/2006 05:56:00 PM  
Blogger lostluvr29 said...

Geez you guys...LOL

6/20/2006 05:56:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Thanks matt vicks. I really appreciate it. I will be doing some research on what you said about that blog site (and more). There has been so much to catch up on.

And I do understand how you would have taken that so no hard feelings.

6/20/2006 05:56:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

matt: hey hey hey... i was just trying to prove a point to you... in a few moments the admin of the blog will clean it up...

6/20/2006 05:56:00 PM  
Blogger katamarmom said...

Does anyone have an idea where we need to go to find even where to input a password? I think we need to find the computer that Mittlewerk was using, the one Rachel said kept asking for a password. But where?

6/20/2006 05:57:00 PM  
Blogger AlohaPrincess said...

This is off topic, but is it just me or does Mittlewerk have a pony tail? ;)

6/20/2006 05:57:00 PM  
Blogger Matt the Pale said...

belly0fdesire

But do you deny that I was able to go through all the comments on Rachel's blog and picked out the ones that matter?

Do you deny that this is possible? Sure, she might post it later on the front page, but I had a lot of fun finding out this stuff before even "Rachel" herself did.

Too bad you had to go and ruin that fun for me.

6/20/2006 05:58:00 PM  
Blogger WichitaWrangler said...

Looks like Lostpedia is completely bought into the history book page...they've posted it as fact...

...there has to be something with the occurence of 48 so many times

6/20/2006 05:58:00 PM  
Blogger lostluvr29 said...

Along the lines of what belly is saying...the "proof" being offered on the front of Rachel's blog isn't anything you can come up with on your own. I've done MULTIPLE searches on the Black Rock and the slave trade, etc..as I am sure many others have...and nothing like the links she showed has come up in my searches. Which backs up what belly is saying about this all being scripted. There is also nothing on "East Ocean Trade Group" or "New World Sea Traders"(which is the title of the book scan from Jambio)

6/20/2006 05:59:00 PM  
Blogger Interrobang! said...

Now that the links are on Rachel's blog, they're in game. Now we just need to figure out the significance and apply it to the password she needs for the computer.

6/20/2006 06:00:00 PM  
Blogger Matt the Pale said...

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6/20/2006 06:00:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

matt: sorry dude... I was just tryin' to save you the trouble the admin and I went through earlier... (an entire conversation between mel0drama and Rachel that was all a hoax)... Until they change it so you can't post anonymously, I'm going to steer clear of those comments... didn't mean to upset or cause hard feelings

6/20/2006 06:00:00 PM  
Blogger roomforhuman said...

Yakobus1 -

They are links from Rachels blog. She put them there, so they have to be legit. Not only are Magnus and The Black Rock both on the blast door map, the map also says that Magnus is buried by or beneath the The Black Rock.

Interesting, no.

6/20/2006 06:00:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

matt: ooh... no no no... that was supposed to be address to the other matt... I said that the "hanso blog" was not legit and he came back saying that it was legit... it's NOT an in-game blog... That wasn't addressed to you at all, Matt. I apologize for the confusion... too many matts

6/20/2006 06:01:00 PM  
Blogger katamarmom said...

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6/20/2006 06:01:00 PM  
Blogger Resin said...

That New World Sea Traders post may be real, but please ... nobody go searching for the book. It's just a hacked together presentation. On close inspection you can see the text box lines being blended. Just thought I'd put out a clarification.

6/20/2006 06:02:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

matt: we're on the same side here, man... no reason to trip like that

6/20/2006 06:03:00 PM  
Blogger katamarmom said...

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6/20/2006 06:04:00 PM  
Blogger Matt the Pale said...

belly0fdesire - Sorry.

6/20/2006 06:04:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

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6/20/2006 06:05:00 PM  
Blogger adedmat said...

come on guys (belly, matt)move on we need your brilliant minds on the game not on this.

6/20/2006 06:05:00 PM  
Blogger katamarmom said...

MattthePale: you mentioned Magnus Hanso on TLE in response to my question about a week ago. You said you were forming a theory. Does any of this play into that theory?

6/20/2006 06:06:00 PM  
Blogger lostluvr29 said...

"Resin said...
That New World Sea Traders post may be real, but please ... nobody go searching for the book. It's just a hacked together presentation. On close inspection you can see the text box lines being blended. Just thought I'd put out a clarification."

Just to be clear...I wasn't saying the clue wasn't real. I am saying that the "proof" of Hanso's innvolvement with the slave trade is not something we could have found on our own. Since it didn't REALLY happen..lol. It is "proof" we can only get when the game leads us to it. As they did when they linked to the so called shipping book.

6/20/2006 06:06:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

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6/20/2006 06:06:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

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6/20/2006 06:07:00 PM  
Blogger lostluvr29 said...

For what its worth, I thought belly was answering matt vicks, not matt the pale. It looks like matt vicks comment has been deleted...which may have led to the confusion of matt the pale thinking belly was talking to him.
Everyone confused now?
*GROUP HUG*

6/20/2006 06:07:00 PM  
Blogger WichitaWrangler said...

the stuff on the computer screen, coordinates having to do with the equator or some sort of linear equation maybe?

6/20/2006 06:08:00 PM  
Blogger xander said...

Thanks katamarmom but still no luck. I think the java script is what is blocking these sites. Oh well, will have to wait.

6/20/2006 06:08:00 PM  
Blogger roomforhuman said...

Yakobus1 -

They are links from Rachels blog. She put them there, so they have to be legit. Not only are Magnus and The Black Rock both on the blast door map, the map also says that Magnus is buried by or beneath the The Black Rock.

Interesting, no.

6/20/2006 06:09:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

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6/20/2006 06:10:00 PM  
Blogger Matt the Pale said...

katamarmom said, "MattthePale: you mentioned Magnus Hanso on TLE in response to my question about a week ago. You said you were forming a theory. Does any of this play into that theory?"

Not sure. Magnus Hanso was a gold miner, apparently, so this may have something to do with it, but so far no kinds of overt connections.


wizardry_eas

Oh, don't worry about it. Belly was just responding to matt vicks who posted something that's not in-game, but I thought that belly was accusing me of leading people astray. He didn't specify which Matt, and this led to confusion.

6/20/2006 06:10:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

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6/20/2006 06:13:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Any ideas about the computer screen password? I think that's the next step.

SHIP LN EQUAT < 1900
HREF
SHIP IN EQUAT > 2000

EQUAT: Equation? Equator?

HREF: Hanso Reference?

6/20/2006 06:14:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

admin and I were both duped earlier... he thought it was legit and emailed me to ask if I got it, and I responded with the entire conversation... which I posted in the comments for the last clue. That conversation, however, never happened... then entire thing was fabricated.

Sparked by frustration, I've come to the conclusion that I stated earlier regarding ignoring the comments... I was only trying to pass this knowledge on to the rest of you to save you from getting caught up in all the falsified drama on her blog...

6/20/2006 06:14:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

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6/20/2006 06:15:00 PM  
Blogger katamarmom said...

Another question about the computer on Rachel's blog - it says property of the Hanso Group, not Hanso Foundation. This is the first time we've heard that within game, isnt' it?

6/20/2006 06:15:00 PM  
Blogger jacob's place said...

I got the script from th JEEP guy
never though this would have to do with jeep...

"I have no business coming out like this, but I need to clear the air on something. Consider this my public apology to DJ Dan. I had the wrong person and will make it right soon. To the believers,I must stay away for a while, but keep digging. Jeep rescinded the contract for good reason. I'm proud of that, and will reveal what I know, when I can. Thank you, maestro48, you're a true believer."

Who's maestro48??? IN-game?

6/20/2006 06:17:00 PM  
Blogger The Experimental Testing Facility said...

Doesn't Rachel look like that chick from the Excedrin TV commercial? They're kind of.... weird looking in a similar way, I think.

6/20/2006 06:17:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

katamarmom: good point... it didn't dawn on to be of any significance until now... I wonder if it means anything.

wiz: no worries

maven: hmmm... href means hyperlink reference in html land, but I doubt that fits here...

6/20/2006 06:18:00 PM  
Blogger Interrobang! said...

Some people (the legit, smart ones, like us) were proposing that the computer had to do with shipping logs. The numbers could be many things, weight of a ship, years...

6/20/2006 06:20:00 PM  
Blogger jacob's place said...

I think its...

SHIP LINE EQUATION < 1900
HANSO REFRENCE
SHIP IN EQUATION >2000

-----------------------------------
PROPERTY OF THE HANSO GROUP

not yet sure what it means

6/20/2006 06:21:00 PM  
Blogger Interrobang! said...

I dont't think that's HREF, i believe that its XREF, like cross reference.

6/20/2006 06:22:00 PM  
Blogger Matt the Pale said...

katamarmom asked, "Another question about the computer on Rachel's blog - it says property of the Hanso Group, not Hanso Foundation. This is the first time we've heard that within game, isnt' it?"

No; it was once on the Cape Town Newspaper from the "D2O / Heavy Water" WWPDP hack.

http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Image:Microfilm-retraction-logocircle.png

6/20/2006 06:22:00 PM  
Blogger Just Your Ordinary Kid...psh yeah right... said...

New site!!!! Fan site? In game? In progress? .tk? Thats for free!

http://www.hansno.blogspot.com

(powered by Blogger!!!)

It is very little, and very humble, but maybe it is something?

Worth a glance...

6/20/2006 06:22:00 PM  
Blogger WichitaWrangler said...

alright Bang...well when you go out and weigh the Black Rock and find a correlatin let me know :)

6/20/2006 06:23:00 PM  
Blogger arerosesred said...

www.hansogroup.com sends you to the same flash as persephone.hansofoundation.com flash. This site has the title GWC.

Rose

6/20/2006 06:23:00 PM  
Blogger jacob's place said...

what if it was a shipping route that was 1900 mi long and there was a hanso ship that was 2000 lbs. It might be a shipping log for the "GROUP"

6/20/2006 06:24:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

jacobs place:

There have been a few references to that "sub-zero/goauld" video" and what was said. I cant find where it came from but it is being hosted (or something like that) on the same place as the other jeep video which suggests in game. Bet REALLY. How was it found legitimately so to speak.

I am interested. And looking at the different transcripts I have found some believe it to say major 48 (and some others maybe, I cannot remember). Do you have a link as i cant be bothered looking right now.

One thought I have is another reference to the ROT site cryptic clue of the film "48 hours". The number 48?????

Any thoughts?

6/20/2006 06:24:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

OMG. In the time it took me to write that post there have been about another 20 posts or so. Hope it doesnt get lost in it all.

6/20/2006 06:25:00 PM  
Blogger AlohaPrincess said...

I don't think the hansno site is in game. Especially considering the blog was created June 2006. It was probably made yesterday by some fan.

6/20/2006 06:26:00 PM  
Blogger Zad said...

For some reason all I get when I go on broadbandstories.com is a red page and nothing else. Anyone else having problems with it? HELP!

6/20/2006 06:26:00 PM  
Blogger jacob's place said...

wiz...

look up (scroll) I have the entire transcript maybe that'll shed some light..
Jacob's place

6/20/2006 06:28:00 PM  
Blogger jacob's place said...

Wiz I think there is more to come.

6/20/2006 06:29:00 PM  
Blogger Just Your Ordinary Kid...psh yeah right... said...

Hello, someone PAY ATTENTION!!!! Thank You.


New site!!!! Fan site? In game? In progress? .tk? Thats for free!

http://www.hansno.blogspot.com

(powered by Blogger!!!)

It is very little, and very humble, but maybe it is something?

Worth a glance...

6/20/2006 06:30:00 PM  
Blogger AlohaPrincess said...

Zed do you have Macromedia? You need it to view the site. Download here:
http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
**Unckeck the Yahoo toolbar if you don't want it...it's quite annoying if you don't. Plus the uninstall feature wouldn't work for me...**

6/20/2006 06:31:00 PM  
Blogger AlohaPrincess said...

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6/20/2006 06:31:00 PM  
Blogger katamarmom said...

MtP: thanks, I didn't catch that in the paper. I know the film done by Hatchett (Hackett??) has been discussed and discussed, but it strikes me that that film references the Hanso Group and explains that the Hanso Foundation is scholarship for college students. Sorry to bring it up again, everybody. I also wondered, but haven't checked yet, if any of the pics came from that film.

6/20/2006 06:31:00 PM  
Blogger Just Your Ordinary Kid...psh yeah right... said...

btw, if you wanna see .tk, look at the source. Am I the only one that searches blogger and such without any reason or clear search?? well it paid off!

6/20/2006 06:32:00 PM  
Blogger WichitaWrangler said...

ALRIGHT, we've seen a couple suggestions of the computer screen being equations for a password...if as some people cosider LN to be "Linear" as in a linear equation than IN probably isn't just "in" but "integral" as in a integral equation...these could lead to T charts which could again lead us to a location on a map or something where something is being shipped...

YEAH YEAH I KNOW...kinda far out there, but I wouldn't put it past em' and if we are going to consider something we might as well go all out!

6/20/2006 06:32:00 PM  
Blogger AlohaPrincess said...

Sorry ZAD not ZED**

6/20/2006 06:32:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Just Your Ordinary Kid...psh yeah right...

how was it found. It looks pretty cool and HAS ben noted but I wont look too much into it until I find a little more where it cam from.

And thanks. I love to get snippets like this to add to my notes.

6/20/2006 06:33:00 PM  
Blogger adedmat said...

wiz, are you talking about maestra48? If so here's what I posted yesterday;


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNHUDVTJ1DM

Seems the guy in this video has been emailing Maestra48. That's why the kudos in the video.
Here's the link'

http://www.losttv-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19639&page=43

6/20/2006 06:34:00 PM  
Blogger Carol said...

Rose, could that GWC be the Global Welfare Consortium that Rachel mentioned in her first video?

6/20/2006 06:35:00 PM  
Blogger katamarmom said...

Just your ordinary kid: cute site, is it yours?

6/20/2006 06:35:00 PM  
Blogger Richard said...

from the broadband stories DJ Dan thing, tanya seems to be a young asian woman. is there any link to the young woman on the persephoene.thf.org?
(i dont want to be the wite dude who says 'all asians look alike', hehe, i'm just wondering)

6/20/2006 06:37:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Just Your Ordinary Kid...psh yeah right...

I see. you found it by searching. Very nice work. I have seen another (cant remember who) who searches this stuff that came up with something interesting (cant remember what and I am just gearing to go to bed soon so just following comments at the moment - sorry - I will catch up more tomorrow).

Thanks again and hope it comes to something. If it does I will remember you.

6/20/2006 06:37:00 PM  
Blogger jacob's place said...

wiz click on "the jeep channel" and look at the website might be normal but I doubt it. More videos most seem normal....

6/20/2006 06:39:00 PM  
Blogger Carol said...

richard, I think their faces are quite different

6/20/2006 06:40:00 PM  
Blogger jacob's place said...

Sorry the jeep channel is on You tube when you watch the video

6/20/2006 06:40:00 PM  
Blogger Just Your Ordinary Kid...psh yeah right... said...

Thanks, no prob. I just did a little searching, and sry katamarmon but no its not mine.
I went to hansno.tk later and i can tell its geocities templatesmy humble beginnings. Now I use dreamweaver, but that's besides the point...

I think its an attempt by ABC to launch a new site, because apparently SaveJoop is "in game", and it gets its name from the teeshirt, but who knows. It went up like, 20 minutes ago though.

6/20/2006 06:40:00 PM  
Blogger Just Your Ordinary Kid...psh yeah right... said...

Or maybe a user trying to get in game... brb, research time

6/20/2006 06:41:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

adedmat:

Thanks for posting link to video. I didnt see what your link was pointing to (unless I copied and pasted it wrong), it had a load of peoples discussion boards but no maestro. But I did see earlier on (I am guessing that this is what you were pointing me to) about a poster called maestro who (I cant remeber what) had some real interesting things to say.

Thanks again. I will look into all this tomorrow.

6/20/2006 06:42:00 PM  

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