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Clue #59 - Rachel Blake Copenhagen Post 03 & DJDan 6/21

The clues are coming fast these days and we don't want to break up discussion in the comments so we'll just consolidate 2 clues into one post here. This is how we're going to deal with Rachel's uber-frequent updates.

Rachel Blake Post 3
Rachel Blake Posted again & again today. Hugh McIntyre in back in the picture and we have another Hanso Foundatio press release. She's also engaging in selected conversations in the comments of her blog with people like GidgetGirl & MelODrama.

DJDan about the Life Extension Project & Alvoop?
DJDan's 6/21 podcast is up. Go to DJDan's website and click 6/21. It takes you to letyourcompassguideyou.com. Click at 108degrees. Go to the owelles folder to find the podcast.

See also some good discussion in the "comments" of our previous post.

Thanks to Andrew, Evil, Drew & Sean for being the first to email. Sorry about the slightly later than normal post...meetings all morning.

356 Comments:

Blogger pilferk said...

This sorta fits into my "theory".

Yes, Joop is Hanso and Hanso is Joop. Or nearly so. If he's NOT Joop, he's definitely not "human" anymore. Maybe he's in cryogenic storage (doubtful), maybe he's just in a bubble somewhere.

Hanso got very sick, terminally so, awhile back. We've seen proof of that from the letters from the Doc in Madrid. The Hanso foundation, with all it's technology and resources, were unable to reverse his illness. What they WERE able to do was keep Hanso alive...."alive" being relative, of course, since he's incapacitated to the point of being out of the picture.

Something has happened, recently, I think that makes Alvar's "revitalization" a bit moer of a priority for the Hanso foundation. I don't know if his condition has worsened or if, in fact, maybe someone is making steps to help him OUTSIDE the direction of the foundation and the top brass at the foundation is actually trying to STOP them.

But I think they're looking for the Black Rock. And I think you're all right....I think there IS something on that ship that Hanso either needs, or needs to control. What might that be? I think it's Magnus. No, not the living, breathing ancestor of Alvar, but Magnus' remains. Why? The answer is very simple. DNA. Possibly the only thing that can help revive/revitalize Alvar. And either the foundation wants it to bring Alvar back...or they want to stop someone from getting it to keep Alvar in the state he's currently in.

That's my theory and, for now, I'm sticking to it!

6/21/2006 12:04:00 PM  
Blogger Izzyjman said...

first

6/21/2006 12:05:00 PM  
Blogger pilferk said...

And I was FIRST!!! :)

6/21/2006 12:05:00 PM  
Blogger Izzyjman said...

i lied

6/21/2006 12:05:00 PM  
Blogger engineer27 said...

Could I be First?

Check out floweroflife.com!!

More to follow.

6/21/2006 12:05:00 PM  
Blogger pilferk said...

engineer...

I think floweroflife.com is actually legit. Or as legit as a new age wacko nutjob type cult can be....

It's an organization that really exists..not an in game one. Frightening, I know.

6/21/2006 12:06:00 PM  
Blogger MuN said...

first ten! ;)
dammit im always one day late! yesterday i was on letyourcompass... and looked around but nothing seemed different.... argh!!! dammyou finders!some day...maybe jajaja you rock!

6/21/2006 12:09:00 PM  
Blogger arerosesred said...

floweroflife.org is not in-game because it has been registered with the Arizona Secretary of State since 2002 as a partnership. And they are still training people etc.

I think that it is pretty easy to assume that anything incorporated/LLC/partnership (meaning registered with a secretary of state) is not in-game, unless its a product tie-in (like Jeep Compass)

Rose

6/21/2006 12:11:00 PM  
Blogger engineer27 said...

pilferk: So Drunvalo Melchizedek is a real guy?

6/21/2006 12:13:00 PM  
Blogger pilferk said...

engineer,

Well, he's a real person, yeah.

His name, I think, is probably fictitious, but it seems like, yes, there is a person who calls himself Drunvalo Melchizedek.

Like I said...frightening.

6/21/2006 12:21:00 PM  
Blogger Passafist said...

About a month ago I had I thought the Alvar Hanso and Joop were one in the same. I even posted it at the message board at this site. The life extension program has to be an animal human hybrid experiment. Why else would that primate virus spread to human beings so quickly! Is Alvar Hanso Joop! I believe he is.

I also messed around with the audio from the Jeep ad from a couple of days ago! I slowed it down and raised the pitch on it. Here is what that guy sounds like....

http://images.passafist.multiply.com/song/1/13/full/U2FsdGVkX1995OdKgsKdtpFdiyTzC72VdqFavJtvfrV1s7v8CSM7FA==/Jeep%20add%20audio.mp3

6/21/2006 12:25:00 PM  
Blogger fitz66 said...

Has anyone seen the update on rachelblake.com it says Magnus Hanso was a SLAVE trasporter. And she has a screen shot of what Mittlewerk was looking at.

6/21/2006 12:26:00 PM  
Blogger Fenris said...

I don't think the joop thing is anything more then a herring. But there are a couple of Flowers of Life sites that have been registered recently but aren't up yet. Something to look out for anyway. The genuine site has been around for years (I found 2 old genuine sites and they have both been round for years so not even worth a mention).

Anyway, the Flowers thing seems the key info in the podcast.

6/21/2006 12:28:00 PM  
Blogger Luke said...

Let's remember that while in game, DJ Dan is certainly to be taken with a pinch of salt. Remember, he plays the in game conspiracy theorist.

As with most of what he has said so far, there is most likely an nugget of truth in it, surrounded by a a dirty mess of ramblings and paranoia.

my theory, for what it's worth, is that Hanso most likely is the victim of one of THFs programs, but a monkey... that seems unlikely. i think the reason they must keep us in the dark is because something THF did to him went BAD. Who would sign up for the LEP or similar if the founder cant even be kept safe.

Still, i doubt Hanso is Joop... sounds a little too strange... Even foe the lost experience.

6/21/2006 12:30:00 PM  
Blogger engineer27 said...

pilferk:

And here I was getting ready to prepare a whole description of what their Merkabah meditation is all about, and how it ties into the book of Ezekiel, etc.

Oh well. Never mind.

6/21/2006 12:31:00 PM  
Blogger engineer27 said...

luke:
Maybe they harvested Hanso's organs to keep Joop alive!

6/21/2006 12:33:00 PM  
Blogger goingdark! said...

i think i can hear the guy saying mr.48. at the end of your treated version of gthe jeep ad. maybe mr. 48 is the next thing we are looking for

6/21/2006 12:36:00 PM  
Blogger lyz2814 said...

noblelawyer mentioned that rachelblake.com has updated. She mentions (in all caps) shipping lanes, so I guess that's what the LN is all about. Talks about slavery (she doesn't seem to like AH...)
The GWC press release isn't working for me yet.

6/21/2006 12:36:00 PM  
Blogger noblelawyer said...

it is a cool press release, creepy how Hanso is infiltrating all levels

6/21/2006 12:37:00 PM  
Blogger Sid said...

what press release are you talking about?

6/21/2006 12:38:00 PM  
Blogger SweetScrapper said...

How do people reach DJ Dan? He moves around every week and never broadcasts from the same spot. How do people know what number to call?

Ok, I know this isn't important, but it bugs me.

SweetScrapper

6/21/2006 12:39:00 PM  
Blogger WeLoveCov said...

repost from other thread:
"interesting that joop=alvar is supported by DJ Dan, no?

I think DJ Dan has a role in pointing us in the right direction - pay attention to what he dismisses versus what he supports
(dismissive of nanotechnology [a fan theory about the monster] but supportive of joop=alvar[also a fan theory])"

Pilferk - your Alvar seeks DNA theory is very interesting!

6/21/2006 12:39:00 PM  
Blogger homer said...

new rachel blake update!!!!w00t w00t

6/21/2006 12:40:00 PM  
Blogger lyz2814 said...

in the updated rachelblake website--a link to GWC press release. That won't open for me for some reason.
and NO MORE Anon Posting on her blog. Yay!

6/21/2006 12:41:00 PM  
Blogger noblelawyer said...

I am also VERY glad to see that she had added security to her comments. No more anonymous posting. Should keep the S**t level to a minimum

6/21/2006 12:42:00 PM  
Blogger homer said...

crap, gotta go do somthin!!!dont have time to read post!!!doh!!!

6/21/2006 12:42:00 PM  
Blogger Richard said...

i think we're definately going to have to do something with 'flower of life' before we're done.

6/21/2006 12:42:00 PM  
Blogger lyz2814 said...

I just downloaded th pdf, instead of trying to load it, and that worked, FYI.

6/21/2006 12:44:00 PM  
Blogger noblelawyer said...

good lyz32814

6/21/2006 12:45:00 PM  
Blogger WeLoveCov said...

Very interesting quote from the press release, seems to tie in to Life Extension:

For forty years, the
foundation has offered grants to worthy experiments designed to further
the evolution of the human race and provide technological solutions to
the most pressing problems of our time.

Emphasis added by me

6/21/2006 12:46:00 PM  
Blogger oxillini said...

Hugh's email adress is at the bottom of the press release.

6/21/2006 12:47:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

I guess the Kimmel McIntyre wasn't an imposter after all.

6/21/2006 12:50:00 PM  
Blogger Thomas Jefferson Snodgrass said...

Check out http://www.thefloweroflife333.com/

Not in game, but interesting vocabulary on the site :-)

6/21/2006 12:50:00 PM  
Blogger Luke said...

engineer27, Maybe they did... Maybe Mittelwerk wanted Hanso out of the way in order to enact his diabolical scheme. Maybe he did put pieces of Hanso in Joop... Maybe there is something to this Alvoop thing after all

Maybe Alvar is not Joop, but he is IN Joop.

who knows

6/21/2006 12:51:00 PM  
Blogger hawke said...

I still think that wasn't the real deal on Kimmel !!!!!!

6/21/2006 12:52:00 PM  
Blogger Sid said...

his phone number is on it too. Any one tried calling it?

6/21/2006 12:52:00 PM  
Blogger oxillini said...

For forty years, the
foundation has offered grants to worthy experiments designed to further
the evolution of the human race and provide technological solutions to
the most pressing problems of our time.

So I think the de Groot's had an idea on how to further human evolution, specifically in the psychological realm. So Hanso cut the checks for DHARMA to conduct experiments on a remote island known only to Hanso.

6/21/2006 12:53:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

neither the phone number, nor the email address are functional... looks like Hugh got with his mistress as a way to get the foundation in bed with GWC...

dude... i so wanna go follow someone and take snapshots now... looks like fun!

6/21/2006 12:55:00 PM  
Blogger silverat said...

http://stophanso.rachelblake.com/img/mc_hugh/wedding_3.jpg

his picture is so fake, does this mean rachel is lying?

6/21/2006 12:56:00 PM  
Blogger silverat said...

just compare teh lighting on his face to her face, and the pixel detail doesn't match

6/21/2006 12:57:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

I liked the original Hugh McIntyre better. I thought he really fit into everything a deceptive businessman should be. The new one looks too casual. i cant really explain it.

Also, how do they explain the voice in the original phone message.

6/21/2006 12:58:00 PM  
Blogger silverat said...

can somone check the pixels in that picture to see if it is a fake?

6/21/2006 12:59:00 PM  
Blogger noblelawyer said...

gotta go to court.

6/21/2006 01:00:00 PM  
Blogger TEAM Lena said...

GOOD LORD! I just got on and ALREADY...new stuff to do!! LOL

Not sure if anyone is on this yet...but could someone transcribe the new DJDan? I would but I suck at it. I am working on a project as well.

6/21/2006 01:01:00 PM  
Blogger Cave_Ranger said...

WOW. If this is true, I'll eat joop. Really.

6/21/2006 01:02:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Can anyone make out what it says under the Corporate Liason's picture in the last image on RB's post? I think it's just numbers or is it a name?

6/21/2006 01:02:00 PM  
Blogger oxillini said...

so, do we still want to save joop?

6/21/2006 01:03:00 PM  
Blogger lostmyshape said...

finally, i'm gonna stop lurking.

persephone's page is a hidden link at the end of the press release... has that changed from the backwards #'s that got us "evident agenda." i'd check it, but don't have the tools at work.

6/21/2006 01:03:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Hey, Lena! I need you to delete your timeline. I emailed you.

6/21/2006 01:03:00 PM  
Blogger pilferk said...

Maven,

I'm relatively sure it's a string of numbers.

6/21/2006 01:10:00 PM  
Blogger silverat said...

anyone notice that the name of the restrante's name is in french, not dutch, is she really in colpohagen or france?
http://stophanso.rachelblake.com/img/mc_hugh/hotel.jpg

6/21/2006 01:11:00 PM  
Blogger SweetScrapper said...

I didn't see the Wed. post on RoT yet today. Anyone think we'll have more from them than yesterday's 48 hours reference?

SweetScrapper

6/21/2006 01:12:00 PM  
Blogger pilferk said...

Maybe it's a French Restaurant?

6/21/2006 01:13:00 PM  
Blogger silverat said...

the sign means no solicitation in french

6/21/2006 01:14:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

Lena: I've got a project I'm working on for the research blog and a project I'm workin' on for my manager, but I'll transcribe in about half an hour if no one else does...

6/21/2006 01:15:00 PM  
Blogger silverat said...

1) the weeding picture, look at him it's a fake picture

2) the french sign

i think rachel is lying

6/21/2006 01:16:00 PM  
Blogger roomforhuman said...

Just a thought.

In the first Hugh picture there is a bold gold sign that looks superimposed. It looks like the two of them are coming from the shop under the sign. It says "pas de colportage" which translates loosly to "not any hawking."

Could this be a reference to Stephen Hawking; arguable the most brilliant man currently alive.

Does anybody speak fluent french who could provide a literal translation for the phrase "pas de colportage."

6/21/2006 01:16:00 PM  
Blogger Chaserace said...

hte phone number at the bottom is the same one as the one from clue 7, only now instead of Hugh's inbox just being full, the number just doesnt work now.

6/21/2006 01:17:00 PM  
Blogger pilferk said...

Roughly it translates into:

"No Soliciting"

6/21/2006 01:17:00 PM  
Blogger silverat said...

roomforhuman, it means no soliciting

6/21/2006 01:18:00 PM  
Blogger pilferk said...

1) The wedding pic: It's not fake! Why do you think it is? Maybe it's been "retouched" a bit to make the photo look nicer.

2) Maybe they have a lot of French Solicitors who pester them at that particular store/restaurant?

6/21/2006 01:19:00 PM  
Blogger roomforhuman said...

I guess the word hawking makes sense then as someone peddling goods agressively or soliciting. I take back everything I said about Stephen Hawking, except that he is brilliant.

6/21/2006 01:19:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

hawking means to sell wares with agression... lol... why would they attack poor Stephen Hawking atop doors in france.... correct that he is the most brilliant man alive, tho

6/21/2006 01:20:00 PM  
Blogger silverat said...

look at his face, it has different lighting and also the pixels are different, funny how his face is only part of the picture retouched

and why would u have a sign in foriegn language

6/21/2006 01:20:00 PM  
Blogger silverat said...

it's not hawkings, because you gusy assume it's dutch, the sign is in french

6/21/2006 01:21:00 PM  
Blogger roomforhuman said...

Trust me, I'm laughing at myself enough for all of you right now. But, hey, I'm only human.

6/21/2006 01:21:00 PM  
Blogger silverat said...

y is that?

6/21/2006 01:23:00 PM  
Blogger roomforhuman said...

It does translate into "not any hawking", but I corrected myself that hawking means to peddle goods aggresively; AKA solicite goods.

6/21/2006 01:23:00 PM  
Blogger pilferk said...

1) Maybe his face was blurry in the initial photo and the photog did some retouching to make the shot better. Lots of photogs will do that, especialy wedding photogs who have pics in multiple poses or different lighting, to get "the perfect shot"..especially if you ask them to.

2) Again, maybe they get a lot of FRENCH solicitors. So they put up the sign IN FRENCH. That way they'd understand it.

6/21/2006 01:24:00 PM  
Blogger silverat said...

the main point is that if the picture is in france?

6/21/2006 01:25:00 PM  
Blogger silverat said...

pilferk, yes it's possible, but which is more logical?

6/21/2006 01:27:00 PM  
Blogger pilferk said...

You're not following me here.

The picture could have been taken in Denmark. In front of a business establishment that either a) gets a lot of French solicitors (perhaps because of what they sell, maybe?) or b) caters almost exclusively to a French Clientele.

6/21/2006 01:29:00 PM  
Blogger The Experimental Testing Facility said...

I was freakin right! man! last week I was saying they turned alvar into a monkey.

I was right!

so don't worry, everyone, even if you're not posting every thirteen seconds for seventeen hours a day, you can figure some stuff out.

TETF

6/21/2006 01:29:00 PM  
Blogger jason said...

vexingmodstwo: "pas de colportage" is an anagram for locate page drops".

6/21/2006 01:30:00 PM  
Blogger silverat said...

fine, that's ur opinion, but my opinion is that it's a suspcious sign

6/21/2006 01:30:00 PM  
Blogger silverat said...

it's also an anagram for "caged polar poets"

6/21/2006 01:31:00 PM  
Blogger pilferk said...

For the purposes of THIS particular situation, and this particular conversation?

I'd say the likelihood is much higher that the information Rachel is providing is in earnest and not a lie, within the context of this particular site and event. And I'd say that, as long as it's explainable, I can see giving her the benefit of the doubt.

6/21/2006 01:32:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Anyone think it is odd that the last known thing we got from P was her 'presumed' capture...now we have this Rachel Blake girl, could she be a plant from THF to steer us in the wrong direction?

6/21/2006 01:32:00 PM  
Blogger silverat said...

how do we know she is the good guy? how do we know she havn't set anyone up? we need to question everything

6/21/2006 01:33:00 PM  
Blogger pilferk said...

In addition, let me also add..I don't think anyone here needs anyone else to walk over the the curtain, jerk it aside, and point out the Wizard.

I'm just saying.... :)

6/21/2006 01:33:00 PM  
Blogger silverat said...

pilferk, i'll i'm saying is we shouldn't be too quick on trusting rachel

6/21/2006 01:36:00 PM  
Blogger silverat said...

another thing is he looks very old in that picture, how do we know that's a weeding picture? why cna't red girl be his real wife?

6/21/2006 01:38:00 PM  
Blogger Administrator said...

I understand the questions you guys are asking but I think the assumption that Rachel=Persephone=Good Guy is a safe one. Doubtful that TPTB would lead us that astray.

Just posted the Growing Pains lyrics for Rachel to read with a link to the video. Hope she enjoys it.

6/21/2006 01:41:00 PM  
Blogger pilferk said...

Well, if she is...she's not wearing her wedding ring. Or an engagement ring.

Possible, I guess. But for my money that looks like a wedding photo..and lord knows I've seen enough of them.

6/21/2006 01:42:00 PM  
Blogger silverat said...

ok, if admins says, i'll drop it

6/21/2006 01:44:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Admins - LMAO!!! I saw that and could not beleive it...I am sure she will be getting a nice laugh from it...

6/21/2006 01:44:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

maybe hugh's real wife is dead.

6/21/2006 01:46:00 PM  
Blogger The Experimental Testing Facility said...

so this flower of life thing -

I have a feeling that there's something equation-like about it. Like the number of hexagons you get when you add another circle, or something.

Could this relate to the Valenzetti equation?
Could this relate to The Numbers?

mathy folks, go for it.

TETF

6/21/2006 01:47:00 PM  
Blogger Layla said...

First time commenting! I'm a long time lurker, and am loving the directions the game has taken.

I was wondering, since that press release Rachel gave us has P's link at the bottom, has anyone checked if what's being said has changed there?

6/21/2006 01:47:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

maybe he is widowed or divorced...being one of those two things does not mean he is not a family man...it doesn't matter, the fact of the matter is that Rachel is showing us that he is deceptive...

6/21/2006 01:48:00 PM  
Blogger lyz2814 said...

I think it's weird that there's a hidden link to persephone's website....maybe TPTB are reusing the template???? The press release isn't dated, so maybe P got her stamp on it before she went underground.

6/21/2006 01:49:00 PM  
Blogger silverat said...

thank you thrasher, my point exactly

6/21/2006 01:49:00 PM  
Blogger Interrobang! said...

Don't see anyone posting this. Check out that PDF. "http://persephone.thehansofoundation.org" is hidden in the text on the 2nd page, below McIntyre's name. There's nothing new there, but does this mean our favorite hacker is still going?

6/21/2006 01:49:00 PM  
Blogger Interrobang! said...

Ok, haha. guess im a couple seconds late...

6/21/2006 01:50:00 PM  
Blogger Administrator said...

Don't have time...can anyone tell if the message on P's page is new?

http://persephone.thehansofoundation.org/--.swf

Email us. Thanks. Bye for now.

6/21/2006 01:52:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

I trust Rachel... I'm not sure that she's Persephone, but I am sure that she's on the same side as Persephone. Now, whether or not Persephone and Rachel are truly the "good guys", is yet to be determined, but for the time being, I trust them both.

In regards to the whole "is it in france?" thing... I'm not sure how much of a difference it means, but the entire affair that is pictured here on Rachel's blog and was one of the topics under Clue #35 took place at a La Dolce Vita a very fancy French hotel...

6/21/2006 01:53:00 PM  
Blogger roomforhuman said...

Admin-

P's page remains the same.

6/21/2006 01:54:00 PM  
Blogger silverat said...

bellyofdesire, the difference is that the name is french which is very possible, but it's a no soliciting sign which is different

6/21/2006 01:55:00 PM  
Blogger Raechel said...

in regards to this "don't trust rachel" thing, if we don't trust her, who are we supposed to trust? from the get-go people said "don't trust P" and "don't trust DJ Dan" - but if we can't trust any of these in-game personas, who the heck are we supposed to rely on for information? You have to assume that some people in this game are going to be telling the truth, or you're not going to get anywhere. What would the X-Files have been if no one trusted Mulder or Scully? Think about it.

6/21/2006 01:58:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

admin. the numbers are now
101 118 105 100 101 110 116 32 97 103 101 110 100 97 on persephones site. is that the same as before?

6/21/2006 02:02:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Admin:

the numbers going backward on persephones site are the same as before giving evident agenda. If you didnt know already.

6/21/2006 02:04:00 PM  
Blogger Axelsoar said...

hey guys, can you do me a favor? my comp dosn't get along iwth acrobat reader or whatever it's called, can i get a transcript of the new hanso press release?

thanks, you guys rock

6/21/2006 02:11:00 PM  
Blogger TheBookPolice said...

God, a Farker could do a better photoshop of a wedding photo than that crappy job on Rachel's site.

That, combined with the French issue (why would a Danish restaurant have to so fear French solicitors that they'd have to put up a sign?), makes me doubt the veracity of Ms. Rachel. Not throw it out the window, just doubt.

With all the technology we've been exposed to in Persephone's hacks, and the THF site in general, we shouldn't have to expect that a wedding picture should look that junky.

6/21/2006 02:11:00 PM  
Blogger Layla said...

Here's a transcript of the press release, for those of you who can't get the pdf:

THE HANSO FOUNDATION NAMED PARTNER IN WORLD HEALTH

The Hanso Foundation is pleased to announce that, as a result of the
efforts of the Worldwide Wellness and Prevention Development Program,
the Global Welfare Consortium has named the Foundation a Partner in
World Health, a status granted only to those organizations at the
forefront of the battle to curb the spread of infectious disease.
The Global Welfare Consortium was established in Geneva, Switzerland
in 1952 to respond to and anticipate the health needs of an
increasingly global society. Current membership stands at 186
nations, with the recent expulsion of several African states due to
long-standing charges of ethnic cleansing. While those regimes no
longer receive GWC funding, the Consortium continues to work at the
local level with private organizations, such as The Hanso Foundation,
to provide key medical resources to embattled territories.
While the GWC's primary focus is on the combat of diseases such as
SARS, AIDS, and avian flu -- infectious, congenital, and degenerative
-- its mission, standing in alignment with that of The Hanso
Foundation, is to bring the citizens of the world to the maximum level
of wellness. This indicates not only a state of being free from
infirmity or disease, but a point of balance between the emotional,
physical, and social states. With 8 regional offices and 150 country
offices, the GWC is well poised to quickly react to emergent
situations, as well as to maintain high minimum health standards
globally.
In the GWC's thorough review of The Hanso Foundation's major programs
by the regulatory Corporate Compliance Committee, The Hanso Foundation
was found to exceed the GWC's standards of corporate excellence in the
areas of environmental impact, social outreach, and workplace
safety/well-being standards.
Hanso Foundation Communications Director, Hugh McIntyre: "As a Partner
in World Health, The Hanso Foundation is now a key private-sector aid
to the GWC's ongoing and constantly evolving programs. We are proud
to have this distinction bestowed on us."
Hugh McIntyre
Communications Director

About the Hanso Foundation

The Hanso Foundation stands at the vanguard of social and scientific
research for the advancement of the human race. For forty years, the
foundation has offered grants to worthy experiments designed to further
the evolution of the human race and provide technological solutions to
the most pressing problems of our time.
“From the dawn of our species, Man has been blessed with curiosity. Our
most precious gift, without exception, is the desire to know more - to
look beyond what is accepted as the truth and to imagine what is
possible.” Alvar Hanso, Address to the U.N. Security Council, 1967
Media Contact: Hugh McIntyre
(206) 861-5017/Hugh.McIntyre@thehansofoundation.org

6/21/2006 02:14:00 PM  
Blogger Interrobang! said...

Heres the PDF:

"THE HANSO FOUNDATION NAMED PARTNER IN WORLD HEALTH
The Hanso Foundation is pleased to announce that, as a result of the
efforts of the Worldwide Wellness and Prevention Development Program,
the Global Welfare Consortium has named the Foundation a Partner in
World Health, a status granted only to those organizations at the
forefront of the battle to curb the spread of infectious disease.
The Global Welfare Consortium was established in Geneva, Switzerland
in 1952 to respond to and anticipate the health needs of an
increasingly global society. Current membership stands at 186
nations, with the recent expulsion of several African states due to
long-standing charges of ethnic cleansing. While those regimes no
longer receive GWC funding, the Consortium continues to work at the
local level with private organizations, such as The Hanso Foundation,
to provide key medical resources to embattled territories.
While the GWC's primary focus is on the combat of diseases such as
SARS, AIDS, and avian flu -- infectious, congenital, and degenerative
-- its mission, standing in alignment with that of The Hanso
Foundation, is to bring the citizens of the world to the maximum level
of wellness. This indicates not only a state of being free from
infirmity or disease, but a point of balance between the emotional,
physical, and social states. With 8 regional offices and 150 country
offices, the GWC is well poised to quickly react to emergent
situations, as well as to maintain high minimum health standards
globally.
In the GWC's thorough review of The Hanso Foundation's major programs
by the regulatory Corporate Compliance Committee, The Hanso Foundation
was found to exceed the GWC's standards of corporate excellence in the
areas of environmental impact, social outreach, and workplace
safety/well-being standards.
Hanso Foundation Communications Director, Hugh McIntyre: "As a Partner
in World Health, The Hanso Foundation is now a key private-sector aid
to the GWC's ongoing and constantly evolving programs. We are proud
to have this distinction bestowed on us."
Hugh McIntyre
Communications Director
About the Hanso Foundation
The Hanso Foundation stands at the vanguard of social and scientific
research for the advancement of the human race. For forty years, the
foundation has offered grants to worthy experiments designed to further
the evolution of the human race and provide technological solutions to
the most pressing problems of our time.
“From the dawn of our species, Man has been blessed with curiosity. Our
most precious gift, without exception, is the desire to know more - to
look beyond what is accepted as the truth and to imagine what is
possible.” Alvar Hanso, Address to the U.N. Security Council, 1967
Media Contact: Hugh McIntyre
(206) 861-5017/Hugh.McIntyre@thehansofoundation.org"

A couple lines down theres:
"http://persephone.thehansofoundation.org"

There ya go!

6/21/2006 02:14:00 PM  
Blogger Fenris said...

I've anagramed that sign to death now. I've said on IRC and I'll say it here. If it is an anagram I'll eat my hat. I have "Deep Costal Prog", "A Spaceport Lodge", "Polar Cage Depots". "Go Toppled Caesar", "Page a Closed Port", and several that have already been mentioned. Personally I think the angle is a load of "Castle Grade Poop" (which is also a possible anagram).

Anyway, I did a frequency comparison between R and P and it didn't look the same. But it is inconclusive. I looked up some proper voice comparison techniques and it's a lot more complex then what I did. I'm not convinced P is R, just because R seems a bit more amature, but then that's Hackers for you. They seem clued in and smart while hacking but then they turn out to be some spotty 13 year old kid. *shrug* Jurys out. The post today seems to suggest R wasn't Hughs girl, but I think the majority didn't go for that one anyway.

As for the Flowers thing, I posted a link in a previous clue to a theory from another message board that seems to tie in.

http://www.thetailsection.com/lost_news/

I do think we will see a website for it soon though. There doesn't seem to be anything legitimate up yet though.

6/21/2006 02:15:00 PM  
Blogger Axelsoar said...

thanks guys!

6/21/2006 02:15:00 PM  
Blogger lostluvr29 said...

I doubt the sign being in French is to keep French speaking solicitors away....they'd have to speak whatever language the people running the restaraunt speak if they wanted to sell them something. Can't very easily sell people stuff if you don't speak the same language.

6/21/2006 02:16:00 PM  
Blogger Layla said...

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6/21/2006 02:16:00 PM  
Blogger Fish_Biscuit said...

I agree. We've got to trust in P/Rachel. If you're going to believe in anyone - she's more trustworthy than anyone else we've encountered up to this point.

Had to post for the simple fact that the word verification was "fuhxu" and I couldn't contain the laughter...

6/21/2006 02:18:00 PM  
Blogger Fenris said...

I don't think it matters if we trust Rachel or not. Either way we need to follow her lead for information. Once we have it we can debate it's value. I don't see the harm in just going with her right now. Although if she asks to meet you in a secluded location it may be wise to check the area for black vans with little radar dishes on the roof first.

6/21/2006 02:18:00 PM  
Blogger Angel21 said...

Did anyone get the transcript for the DJDan cast yet?

6/21/2006 02:19:00 PM  
Blogger Axelsoar said...

odd, speaker isn't answering my emails today, maybye he is busy? he usualy responds in a minute

6/21/2006 02:20:00 PM  
Blogger AlohaPrincess said...

Whoever posted about why Hugh's wife isn't wearing a wedding or engagement ring - it's because the hand we see in the picture is her right hand. Her wedding ring would be on her left.

6/21/2006 02:23:00 PM  
Blogger christy said...

I wouldn't think anything of the "pas de colportage" sign except it stands out so much. If it was naturally on the door like that it would be harder to read - see how the door itself is slightly out of focus? I am sure it means something, as to me it looks like it was intentionally put there.

6/21/2006 02:27:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

Here's a cleaner version of the PDF... I'll delete it if requested...:

THE HANSO FOUNDATION NAMED PARTNER IN WORLD HEALTH

The Hanso Foundation is pleased to announce that, as a result of the efforts of the Worldwide Wellness and Prevention Development Program, the Global Welfare Consortium has named the Foundation a Partner in World Health, a status granted only to those organizations at the forefront of the battle to curb the spread of infectious disease.

The Global Welfare Consortium was established in Geneva, Switzerland in 1952 to respond to and anticipate the health needs of an increasingly global society. Current membership stands at 186 nations, with the recent expulsion of several African states due to long-standing charges of ethnic cleansing. While those regimes no longer receive GWC funding, the Consortium continues to work at the local level with private organizations, such as The Hanso Foundation, to provide key medical resources to embattled territories.

While the GWC's primary focus is on the combat of diseases such as SARS, AIDS, and avian flu -- infectious, congenital, and degenerative -- its mission, standing in alignment with that of The Hanso Foundation, is to bring the citizens of the world to the maximum level of wellness. This indicates not only a state of being free from infirmity or disease, but a point of balance between the emotional, physical, and social states. With 8 regional offices and 150 country offices, the GWC is well poised to quickly react to emergent situations, as well as to maintain high minimum health standards globally.

In the GWC's thorough review of The Hanso Foundation's major programs by the regulatory Corporate Compliance Committee, The Hanso Foundation was found to exceed the GWC's standards of corporate excellence in the areas of environmental impact, social outreach, and workplace safety/well-being standards.

Hanso Foundation Communications Director, Hugh McIntyre: "As a Partner in World Health, The Hanso Foundation is now a key private-sector aid to the GWC's ongoing and constantly evolving programs. We are proud to have this distinction bestowed on us.

Hugh McIntyre
Communications Director

About the Hanso Foundation
The Hanso Foundation stands at the vanguard of social and scientific research for the advancement of the human race. For forty years, the foundation has offered grants to worthy experiments designed to further the evolution of the human race and provide technological solutions to the most pressing problems of our time.

“From the dawn of our species, Man has been blessed with curiosity. Our most precious gift, without exception, is the desire to know more - to look beyond what is accepted as the truth and to imagine what is possible. ” Alvar Hanso, Address to the U. N. Security Council, 1967

Media Contact:
Hugh McIntyre (206) 861-5017/Hugh.
McIntyre@thehansofoundation. org

http://persephone.thehansofoundation.org

6/21/2006 02:27:00 PM  
Blogger WichitaWrangler said...

The sign is French and in English means No Hawking...not like Stephen Hawking, though I considered the pysicist, but as in no peddling or selling of goods outside the restaurant...although I did search for Pas De Colportage and some interesting literature about religion and Allah and stuff came up once I tranlated it...don't know the correlation.

My point, however, is maybe it is No Hawking we need an anagram for.

Sorry if this has all been said already, got up late...and its pay-day, so I've got money to spend!!!

6/21/2006 02:27:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

the main question in my mind is, if the persephone page is the same, why the hidden link? either there's something we aren't seeing or there's going to be a persephone update soon?

6/21/2006 02:28:00 PM  
Blogger Interrobang! said...

I'm getting a script of the DJ Dan 'cast up...itll be only a second...

6/21/2006 02:30:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

My thinking as well, Bely, been refreshing it constantly

6/21/2006 02:32:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Bely = Belly

Sorry

So much is happening so fast!!

6/21/2006 02:32:00 PM  
Blogger oxillini said...

Belly, maybe her page will change tomorrow? 48 hours from the ROT clue?

6/21/2006 02:34:00 PM  
Blogger Layla said...

I don't know if someone's already posted this, but 'The Lost Ninja' who appears to be the Austrailian equivilent of our Speaker is saying that Rachel and Persephone are one in the same. I'm not sure if I am completely convinced yet, though.

Check it out here: http://au.blogs.yahoo.com/lostninja/3348/persephone-is-rachel-blake

6/21/2006 02:43:00 PM  
Blogger Interrobang! said...

DJDan Podcast, 6/21

Announcer: Coming to you live, where part of your cra sticks, it's...
Girls: DJ Dan!
Announcer: You're listening to DJ Dan, shutting down the man.
DJDan: Life extention, you know what that is? It's dumping hormones, and drugs, and cocktails of vitamins in your body in the sad hope that it will squeeze out an extra 10 or 20 years.
Tonya: Good morning to you too, DJ Dan.
D: Yep. Tonya, what's a meaningful life?
T: Uh, one where you meet the entire living cast of "Gunsmoke"?
D: Haha, Tonya is just obsessed with TV westers. And while her answer was glib, she actually makes a good point. If you fulfill your hopes and desires, made an impact on the world, if you do these things and have fun in the process,have you not lived a good life?
T: I'd say
D: So wouldn't you agree that Ghandi lived a good life? Martin Luther King? Jimmy Hendrix? Lou Gehrig? Jesus of Nazareth??
T: That list only included men.
D: Fine, fine, fine...Mama Cass, happy?
T: Most of those people lived unnaturally short lives, DJ Dan.
D: And yet they changed the world, they didn't wait around. They didn't buy into the lies of the 'man', selling you into his pipedreams. That's right! Chris from Kansas City, what do you think?
Chris: Now look, DJ Dan, I believe in the Life Extention Project.
D: Uh huh. Tell me, Chris, are you enrolled in the Life Extention project?
C: Yes, I am. It's manufactured by this local company called Flower of Life Enterprises.
D: Local you say?! Try local by Denmark! Chris!
C: Uhh...
D: I don't want to alarm you, son, but you are in the grips of the big baddies.
C: But I'm telling you, I feel great!
D: And I'm telling you that Flower of LIfe is a sibsidiary of none other than...Dun dun THE HANSO FOUNDATION! I figure I harp enough on these guys, I oughta have a button.
C: Who's the Hanso Foundation?
D: Who's the Hanso Foundation?! Shutdown!! Sorry, Chris. I had to do it. I feel something coming on, it's taking over. It's making me do this.
T: Oh, here it comes again.
D: It's a vast conspiracy Tonya. Of the medical community, the pharmaceutical companies, the wellness groups, and these pseudo-science quacks with their miracle formulas. Like the Hanso Foundation, they keep saying they'll extend your life. It's a vast conspiracy to take your money, and lull you into a sense that you have all the time in the world. Their singing the lullaby Tonya, and the fight is going out of the world.

Now to answer Chris's question. The Hanso Foundation is numero uno on my hit list. And Why? Because they lie, because they're shrouded in secrecy, because their founder Alvar Hanso, arms dealer turned peace flag-waving psuedo-scientist liar and chief, Hanso himself, has been undergoing, according to one of my conspiraspies sources, life extension treatements that have rendered him a Monkey Man. A freak show! Unfit for contact with the public. Why do you think no one's seen this guy in years? Because he's swinging through the trees on some mountain in the Netherlands. Now we've all seen their website, and our hack artist Persephone's good work, the Hanso Foundation's got this crazy ole Orangutan named Joop. Yea, he's supposed to appeal to the kids, but if you click on him, he just goes fricken batty! Now call me crazy, but I'm willing to put money on the fact that this Joop's is none other than Alvar Hanso himself, and I'm afraid Tonya. I'm afraid that any day our poor friend Chris is going to look just like him. Conspiraspies let me know: have I gone to far? Has DJ Dan cracked up, or could it be I'm on to something. Your theories, rants and raves, when we come back...

Then theres the Jeep commercial, nothing there.
there you guys go!

6/21/2006 02:43:00 PM  
Blogger Princechuck said...

I think that we are missing the part of "She was an employee of the foundation" in clue #45. Rachel has on her homepage that she use to work for an "evil megalithic corporation"

An obvious tie in that they are the same. The slip of the "Rachel" in the swf file pointing towards red handwritting at the end of a clue.

The links from the persephone website to the rachel site and back to the persephone site. Obviously they are the same and we would have nothing without the persephone hacks.

6/21/2006 02:44:00 PM  
Blogger The Alternative said...

Team Lena -->

D.J. Dan podcast 06/21 transcription can be found at my website

http://thealternativelostgame.blogspot.com/

The Alternative One

6/21/2006 02:45:00 PM  
Blogger Angel21 said...

interrobang.....thanks! I was playing poker and listening at the same time...couldn't really pay attention.

6/21/2006 02:48:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

New hex codes found in the latest comments of the DJDan podcast are:

00000270 00000032 0001F8A0 000015DF 0001B918 000340C8 00007F8D 00008052 0001B8E8 0001B918

I have still never found a meaning for them (nor anyone else tht I know) but I feel they must be in there for a reason.

Just throwing that in.

6/21/2006 02:55:00 PM  
Blogger lyz2814 said...

I'm hoping that the hidden link in the press release (the GWC press release) is not just a sloppy reuse of a template.

6/21/2006 02:57:00 PM  
Blogger christy said...

So, I am sure everyone has seen it, but was there anything of interest in DJ Dan's video on the Broadband Stories web site?

6/21/2006 02:57:00 PM  
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6/21/2006 02:57:00 PM  
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6/21/2006 03:00:00 PM  
Blogger noblelawyer said...

Anyone check the source code on persephone.thehansofoundation ? maybe the change (if there is one) is there.

6/21/2006 03:00:00 PM  
Blogger noblelawyer said...

in which comment section?

6/21/2006 03:02:00 PM  
Blogger noblelawyer said...

sorry belly found it........turns out I was in the wrong one - too many screens up at once

6/21/2006 03:05:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

Okay... here's the conversation... nothing really revealed, but here it is:

Gidget Girl: Rachel, I'm all for airing the truth, but you've crossed a line. What these guys do in private is their business. You could destroy a family, here.

Rachel Blake: Like I said, what Hugh does personally, I don't really care... I'm just asking what kind of power is he wielding by sleeping with this woman from the GWC?

Gidget Girl: So you don't care if you wreck his marriage?

Rachel Blake: Frankly, if you want to go there, he said good-bye to his marriage the second he decided to have that affair.

Gidget Girl: For someone claiming not to take the moral high ground, you're certainly carrying around an awful lot of venom for this guy. You got something against men, Rachel?

Rachel Blake: Only his type.

Gidget Girl: If you had any decency, you'd take those photos down.

Rachel Blake: The way I see it... he's the head of publicity? Well, then let's make it public. The pictures stay.

Gidget Girl: Who are you? What do you have against these people?

Rachel Blake: Who are you?


it's been quiet now for about 5 minutes, so I'm not sure if Gidget Girl is going to answer....

6/21/2006 03:14:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

ALT-Tab Control-R, ALT-Tab Control-R, ALT-Tab Control-R, ALT-Tab Control-R, ALT-Tab Control-R, over and over again... sheesh...

6/21/2006 03:17:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Nice work though belly. I noticed a couple of rachels comments but you made it a lot more easy for me. Thanks again.

6/21/2006 03:21:00 PM  
Blogger Interrobang! said...

Yeah, i know how you feel. Looks like Mel is back online. All he's said is "Alavar Lives". Maybe this would be enough for everyone to ignore that damn blog saying he died.

6/21/2006 03:24:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

I'm not sure it's the same mel... the mel the other day didn't have a blogger account... between then and now, I'm sure there have probably been a few set up in his name... we'll have to wait and see

6/21/2006 03:25:00 PM  
Blogger roomforhuman said...

All day long Belly...all day long.

What do you think of my theory that Rachel telling everyone she is in Denmark so that Hanso will look for her there, but then she discloses her true whereabouts to us by showing us that sign. Just a thought. ALT-Tab Control-R...

6/21/2006 03:25:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

and his post was removed

6/21/2006 03:26:00 PM  
Blogger Interrobang! said...

Yeah, Mel's post is gone. Oh well. Is there any significance to the comments from the blog? Its kinda "so what?".

6/21/2006 03:28:00 PM  
Blogger natevoodoo said...

Hey Guys-
Oceanography expert here.
It looks like Mittelwerk was looking for where the Black Rock was going when it disappeared. I actually think that he's looking for Alvar. Who went looking for his relative Magnus. That's just my theory.

But here's what I have to say about the computer screen.
Check out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronometer

Clocks were used to tell longitude before GPS or radio transmitters. These clocks needed pendulum/springs that wouldn't lose time from the rocking of the ship. The first clock to do this was the chronometer.

The way it works is by setting the time to GMT or the prime meridian in Scotland/UK time. Then whenever it is noon where you are (sun at its highest point/zenith) you note the time on the clock. If your clock shows 7:00pm (or 1900 military / 24hr time) then you are 7 hours behind England. Since the earth spins 360 degrees every 24 hours. There are 15 degrees longitude for every hour difference from GMT. And there are 15 minutes of longitude for every minute of time difference from GMT.

If we say that EQUAT means equator or 0 degrees latitude. We can say that 1900 is 7 hours before GMT or 105 degrees West longitude. where 2000 is 8 hours before GMT and 120 degrees West longitude. This puts between hawaii and mexico but farther south at the equator.

105-->120 degrees east longitude puts us around Malaysia/Indonesia/Singapore which is mention in the website as the last place Black Rock was spotted before heading East.
This would make more sense as a location for the story but it doesn't work with how you actually use a chronometer.

So its a bit inconclusive. But I hope it helps get you thinking.
Natevoodoo

6/21/2006 03:29:00 PM  
Blogger Interrobang! said...

Great stuff, Nate!

6/21/2006 03:31:00 PM  
Blogger amie said...

game going fast .. too much info to assimilate = very exciting!

re: rachel - I am beginning to have doubts, not BIG doubts… but “what’s her motivation?”, I mean I want to take down Hanso as much as the next guy, but I didn’t pack my bags to go to Copenhagen : what’s her story? And why hasn’t she told us her link to all of this? I'll go along for now...

Re: the French sign: could be in anywhere French is an official language, Like GENEVA, the HQ of the GWC. – but definetely not in Copenhagen.

So the THF is not a foundation, but a corporation. Need a lawyer to explain the difference – but I do think this changes something.

Finally, I’ve been reading the posts: we really need a big picture- we have so many new elements accumulating that things are bound to get left out….

6/21/2006 03:31:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

Nate: awesome insight, man! thank you for that!


That sign has to mean somthing.. it stands out too much in that picture not to

6/21/2006 03:34:00 PM  
Blogger Acts4Food said...

Just for fun looked up Hughs number and called the different area codes... lol dont call the last one some guy answered and was deff. not Hugh...

http://decoder.americom.com/decoderscript?Search=206+861+5017&handle=101

6/21/2006 03:35:00 PM  
Blogger MSTK said...

Reguarding all of the nitpicking of Rachel's photos --

Remember that everything in TLE is essentailly an in-game fake. Albiet a well-paid in-game fake, but a fake nevertheless. So technically speaking they could only do things as well as a good computer whiz over here in the dark could.

6/21/2006 03:36:00 PM  
Blogger kittenry said...

1) A few people have mentioned the Alvar Hanso / Joop connection that DJ Dan forwarded in his podcast. I am kind of surprised there hasn't been more of a reaction to this. It is positively ludicrous, no matter what kind of treatments Hanso receives (or received), it is simply not possible that a human could be transmogrified into an ourang-outang. It's just ludicrous.

2) Cryogenics, which I've seen theoretically linked to Hanso, is also simply not advanced to the point where a human being could even be revived. Now, if he was stored, it is within the realm of possibility that Hanso has gone missing whilst the HF attempts to recreate him through cloning. There are scientists and organisations - particularly (surpise!) in - currently working on the process.

3)
Xenotransplantation seems to be a more likely connection between Hanso and Joop, as this is an actual recorded occurrence.

4) The links being established between the Hanso Foundation and the slave trade in the eighteenth and nineteenth century are not surprising, given our previous exposure to these kinds of elements in the show itself (black rock, locke dissuading eko from becoming a slave to the computers, as well as the sense that the DHARMA Initiative (and the HF) in forcing people in completely inappropriate ways into different kinds of experimentation.

5) I am growing increasingly suspicious of Rachel Blake and the information she is dispensing. Doubtless much of the intel she's dispensing is legitimate. The Mulder and Scully allusion made earlier in these comments is an interesting one, but it is flawed. Rachel is an "insider" (at least formerly) to the HF or to one of its subsidiary corporations.

Her role in this adventure seems to be more aligned (on X-Files terms) to Deep Throat, X, the Well-Manicured Man, or Marita Covarrubias - all people who gave enough information to tantalize, but never at the cost of their own interests. I posit that Rachel Blake may be up to something not dissimilar. I have further thoughts on RB, particularly on her historical and literary namesakes, but that can wait.

6) Rachel has to be in her mid-twenties, as far as her age goes. Is it really plausible that a person of this age, who sits in a car right in front of the archive building, or pursuing Mittlewerk wouldn't have been spotted or apprehended yet by some of the HF's goons? I mean, if Mr. Paik knew enough of Jin's intentions to send an operative to follow him to the Sydney airport when he was on an ostensibly official assignment from Paik, then doesn't it make sense that a girl in her mid-twenties, broadcasting all over the internet could be tracked and captured?

Enough for now.

6/21/2006 03:38:00 PM  
Blogger kittenry said...

Not sure why it didn't show up, but the cloning link I tried to post was to scientists in (surprise! again) South Korea.

6/21/2006 03:39:00 PM  
Blogger GhettoGumby said...

Wizardry: I think the hex codes in the DJ Dan podcast comments are just junk. I accidently checked the comments in the Lost Experience Podcast Episode 6 and it has some of the same hexes. So I downloaded other LEC podcasts and they all have similar codes. So maybe its just a tracker for the podcast...but unfortunately I think they mean nothing. Sad though...I had hoped they were a clue.

6/21/2006 03:39:00 PM  
Blogger amie said...

Kittenry- well said!

6/21/2006 03:42:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Way to go kittenry. Nice read. I agree especially that hanso/joop is crazy. I feel that DJDan saying that is further evidence to suggest that he does have some crazy (and off the mark) theories and you just have to get the right ones.

ghettogumby. I will still record them but I guess you are right about the hex codes. What gets me is that the first podcast had no such code. Thanks for that though.

6/21/2006 03:46:00 PM  
Blogger moxy29 said...

question: why is there a hidden link to persephone's page at the bottom of the press release when the page hasn't changed. Did I miss something? sorry if already posted, tried to read through but got frustrated.

6/21/2006 03:47:00 PM  
Blogger moxy29 said...

another note: before Rachel officially put up her blog, someone had found a blog for her on the web. it was word for word what she has in her current blog but included a couple of more cities and strange dates and times. She did have a post from paris. Maybe she is there already hmmmmmm. She also had a post from Iceland.

6/21/2006 03:52:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

I guess something will change and we should keep an eye.

6/21/2006 03:53:00 PM  
Blogger natevoodoo said...

wizardry: I think it might just means that Hanso was life extended through the same process as Joop. Which I have thought for a while since Fake Henry looks a bit like Hanso's pic in profile. But that ain't necessarily so.

6/21/2006 03:53:00 PM  
Blogger Idaho Girl said...

frenchie said...

So the THF is not a foundation, but a corporation. Need a lawyer to explain the difference – but I do think this changes something.



It's both. The Foundation is the philanthropic arm and the Hanso Group is the business arm.

Foundation - all of the medical and advancement things from their site.

Group - owns Cape Town newspaper, Copenhagen Marine company, whatever other businesses that have come up as owned.

6/21/2006 03:54:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Did anyboday download a copy of rachels old blog locally. That sound like an interesting sneak into what is to come to me. So much ggoing on this week I never put two and two together. Thanks moxy29

6/21/2006 03:54:00 PM  
Blogger MSTK said...

moxy29 - do you have a link?

6/21/2006 03:55:00 PM  
Blogger moxy29 said...

wiz: I wish I did, I only had a link to it which no longer works arghhhhhhhhhh!

6/21/2006 03:55:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

natevoodoo:

Could be that it was just referring to the same life extension of Joop and Alvar. I never thought of that.

6/21/2006 03:56:00 PM  
Blogger moxy29 said...

http://tacosalad-rachel.blogspot.com/

this was the old link...can't remember who found it but it was posted a few clues back when the video was first leaked.

6/21/2006 03:56:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

I remember now. Someone in a previous comments said that it had been moved somewhere I am sure. I will check.

6/21/2006 03:59:00 PM  
Blogger moxy29 said...

the page title was THE BIG TRIP 2006, that is all I know. I will go back in the previous clues and look for the original poster...

6/21/2006 03:59:00 PM  
Blogger MSTK said...

It sounds like a slip, just like the first Rachel Blake video. Someone found it when they were not supposed to.

6/21/2006 04:01:00 PM  
Blogger moxy29 said...

mstk, yea, right when that leak of the video came out some poster had gone and done a search (can't remember which kind but I did not recognize the name) and found it. kinda freaky

6/21/2006 04:04:00 PM  
Blogger indosay said...

Anyone else having trouble with broadbandstories.com? I can't get it to load. Just a big red screen that pretends to load for hours before I get frustrated and leave. If anyone knows anyplace else where I can watch Rachel's second video, that would be great. Thanks.

6/21/2006 04:06:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Couldnt find it. Sorry.

6/21/2006 04:06:00 PM  
Blogger WeLoveCov said...

Kittenry - You are right that Alvar = Joop is way out there. You'd be talking about some whacky gene-splicing or something even weirder, like "de-evolving." What I think is interesting is track what DJ Dan is into, and what he is not into. Not into the guy being mind-controlled who is saved by his toaster, not into nanotechnology, but he IS into his peeps not being able to see the SE Asia research platform, and he IS into alvar = joop.

The question is, can we take anything meaningful away from what DJ Dan says, or is all merely to amuse?

Also, I definitely think the Rachel blog being available was a slip - hopefully someone saved it locally. I'd go back to it after the fact to see if it was indeed a slip-up, but wouldn't spoiler the coming adventures.

6/21/2006 04:07:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

indosay: Try it on youtube...

6/21/2006 04:09:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

I do believe that the old rachel blog was found before it should have been by someone who searched the blogs (I know areroses had done this). What I find interesting is the entries that are not in her blog just now.

6/21/2006 04:09:00 PM  
Blogger indosay said...

belly: thanks, that works. I was afraid I was going to miss something!!!

6/21/2006 04:11:00 PM  
Blogger TEAM Lena said...

I need to post this before I explode LOL:

I have new possible theory on DJDan...

What if...DJDan was a "pro hanso" and was simply putting out this podcast to make everyone THINK he is just a normal run of the mill conspiracy nutjob.

Please notice that he mentions Persephone but SHE DOES NOT mention him. He might be trying to make her discredible to the masses.

If you were an insider pretending to be a nutjob to throw OFF all wrong doings of hanso, wouldnt you ALSO try and drag someone who IS GOOD threw the mud to make them appear nutty as you so noone would listen to them????

WAR OF THE WORLDS...WAG THE DOG...F IS FOR FAKE...

I also think persephone was the one who put the video on calling DJDan a sellout...

Hope this made any sence LOL its hard to explain...

6/21/2006 04:24:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Lena: I hear you...there seems to be a lot of players here...I think they might be trying to acheive the same goal though...sort of competing interests to shutdown the man...and DJ Dan seems egomaniacal at times...

6/21/2006 04:27:00 PM  
Blogger natevoodoo said...

so in retrospect to my last post:
a 24 hour time like 1900 or 2000 could just mean time zone distance from GMT. so that would be 7 to 8 hours ahead of GMT which would be 105 to 120 East longitude at the equator (Malaysia/Indonesia). Wheras, my California longitude is 140 West is 9 hours and 20 min before GMT could be denoted 0240 as a West/East location.

In this way, all points around the globe could be denoted (within 15' longitude) with the 24hour clock notation 0000-2359.

This might make more sense because the international date line in the pacific seperates days, not the Prime Meridian /GMT line. So 1900-2000 would be east of england in the same day. If you look at a picture of time zones it will sometimes show England as being noon. With earlier times to left and later times to the right.

So I now feel firm that this is the intention of Mittelwerk's search.

Magnus Natevoodoo

6/21/2006 04:35:00 PM  
Blogger natevoodoo said...

>>>>>>>>>>>>
belly0fdesire said...

That sign has to mean somthing.. it stands out too much in that picture not to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

What sign? you mean the computer screen or something in the video?

6/21/2006 04:38:00 PM  
Blogger Carol said...

NINJA HAS SAID IT IS JUST HIS ASSUMPTION THAT RACHEL AND PERSEPHONE ARE THE SAME!!!

I've said it a few times, but yeah... heck if you read page two of the comments on Ninja's blog you'd see where he replied to me and said as much. Sorry, it just bugs me that people aren't picking up on the important information. And i haven't even refreshed to see if this has already been pointed out because clearly it needs to be done multiple times.

~sigh~ I'm going away for a while to calm down

6/21/2006 04:39:00 PM  
Blogger TEAM Lena said...

Yes, thrasher, he does...

He seems to be in the owelles folder alot LOL . I am really leaning towards him being an insider for hanso, and is trying to simply DISCREDIT persephone by making it LOOK like she is with him in his crazy theories.

Lets look back and think of persephones goals vs. djdans theories...

OK OK OK....just thought of this LOL...

Persephone DOES NOT BASH alvar hanso, just more on the lines of wandering where he went....D J DAN BASHES ALVAR ALL THE TIME!!!!!!!!!!! Seems to me, persephone has a different agenda than DJDan...

6/21/2006 04:40:00 PM  
Blogger cyborg771 said...

Just in case anyone doesn't know, Mama Cass (Who DJ Dan mentioned in the podcast) is the artist who sang "Make Your Own Kind of Music" from Lost.

6/21/2006 04:44:00 PM  
Blogger Chaserace said...

does anybody think that DJ Dan might have just been making a wise-crack / joke about hanso being joop instead of saying it could be real. he was probably just making fun of the situation with a little humor.

6/21/2006 04:48:00 PM  
Blogger Interrobang! said...

Persephone seems to be more level headed and have more information to back up her theories than DJ Dan does. I'm not so sure about Dan being "in" with Hanso. Remember a couple podcasts ago where Dan had that creepy caller guy that threatened him, and also called DJ Dan by his first name. The caller guy was pro Hanso and Dan seemed legitamatly shaken up. I'm a little disappointed that nothing with that has been dealt with yet. Hanso seemed to have their thumb on him, close to shutting down the Dan.

6/21/2006 04:51:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

Lena: yeah... I'm writing up an entry for the research blog... if you went to the chatroom, I'm sure you saw my posting about it... and in it, I cover that she has never attacked Hanso

6/21/2006 04:52:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

nate: I was just referring to the image that Rachel posted... the gold sign... it's there for a reason...

6/21/2006 04:55:00 PM  
Blogger TEAM Lena said...

Me and hubby have a new theory....it totally explains just about EVERYTHING....(even the show, island etc...)

We will be posting this when the time is right on either my blog or his. That way Speaker cant erase it...its THAT good.

6/21/2006 04:56:00 PM  
Blogger arerosesred said...

Hi--

I posted originally about The Big Trip 2006! on Saturday or Sunday.

I am not sure what the question is

6/21/2006 04:59:00 PM  
Blogger Rumiko said...

RE:HUGH MCINTYRE being divorced, widowed - I think that if Rachel can look up Mittelwerk's school records in every industrialized nation, she would know if Hugh is still married or widowed. This girl knows her stuff.

I'm with a few of you on not trusting her, but the bad photoshopping might just be that. I doubt these actors have wedding pictures together from 20+ years ago.

6/21/2006 05:03:00 PM  
Blogger Carol said...

the posts that were on the tacosalad blog seemed more like the coverstory ones, I remember there being the Italian riviera, Paris and Iceland. Alas, I didn't think of saving them either. Hindsight is so lovely

6/21/2006 05:06:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Belly:
Did someone in the previous comments not say that it translated to waking dream? Not sure if it was the gold symbol or something else.

arerosesred:
I am not sure what you are referring to but I mentioned that "rosesare" said about searching blogs. Is this you. And the reason why it came up is that someone had mentioned that the original rachel blake blog (gone now) mentioned posts that are not in her new blog site and it was thought that the original blog was found early (before time) and that the other posts may have been a snippet at what is to come. I was wondering if anybody had saved the original blog to their harf drive.

Sorry if this is not what you meant.

6/21/2006 05:09:00 PM  
Blogger AvArO said...

Where is the video?

6/21/2006 05:11:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

The image shows a gold sign that stands out quite prominently and says "pas de colportage", which translates, in French, to "not any hawking", which is the equivelant of a "no soliciting" sign. PAS DE COLPORTAGE could be an anagram or NOT ANY HAWKING could be an anagram, not sure...

6/21/2006 05:11:00 PM  
Blogger Rumiko said...

Wizardry: Waking Dream was the translation for "Aufwecken des Traums"
which comes from http://myspace.com/mandrakewig under hometown.

The gold sign translates into "No soliciting/hawking"

6/21/2006 05:13:00 PM  
Blogger Rumiko said...

Belly: I don't think the translation would be an anagram, since there are numerous ones. And the sign it's self? Doubtlful as well because it's just a picture. I doubt that restaurant/whatever and Hugh in front of it was waiting to be caught in a picture

6/21/2006 05:15:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

rumiko: dude... wowza!

it looks superimposed to me... it stands out as much as "the mistress'" ID card does in the image later... it's definitely there for a reason... trust me... you're right that it may not be an anagram, but it still may be.. there have been a lot of them, but that hasn't stopped TPTB from using them again in the past.

6/21/2006 05:21:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

rumiko:

thanks for clearing that up about the translation. Much appreciated.

6/21/2006 05:22:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

i hate to spoil everyone's fun, but i think the sign is just a sign.


now go out there and prove me wrong.

6/21/2006 05:22:00 PM  
Blogger CV said...

who is the woman Hugh is with? Could it be
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/f123/katiezo/junea/mcpheesugar1.jpg

6/21/2006 05:23:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

The waking dream reference comes for the email that gets sent to you if you enter your legitimate email address in at the RoT site... hasn't been used for anything as of yet, as for as I can recall...

6/21/2006 05:23:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

OK. im looking at the image of mcintyre's mistress' ID badge, and it looks like her middle name is Widmore.

That'd be an interesting twist.

6/21/2006 05:30:00 PM  

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