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Clue #59 - Rachel Blake Copenhagen Post 03 & DJDan 6/21

The clues are coming fast these days and we don't want to break up discussion in the comments so we'll just consolidate 2 clues into one post here. This is how we're going to deal with Rachel's uber-frequent updates.

Rachel Blake Post 3
Rachel Blake Posted again & again today. Hugh McIntyre in back in the picture and we have another Hanso Foundatio press release. She's also engaging in selected conversations in the comments of her blog with people like GidgetGirl & MelODrama.

DJDan about the Life Extension Project & Alvoop?
DJDan's 6/21 podcast is up. Go to DJDan's website and click 6/21. It takes you to letyourcompassguideyou.com. Click at 108degrees. Go to the owelles folder to find the podcast.

See also some good discussion in the "comments" of our previous post.

Thanks to Andrew, Evil, Drew & Sean for being the first to email. Sorry about the slightly later than normal post...meetings all morning.

152 Comments:

Blogger engineer27 said...

Could I be First?

Check out floweroflife.com!!

More to follow.

6/21/2006 12:05:00 PM  
Blogger engineer27 said...

pilferk: So Drunvalo Melchizedek is a real guy?

6/21/2006 12:13:00 PM  
Blogger Passafist said...

About a month ago I had I thought the Alvar Hanso and Joop were one in the same. I even posted it at the message board at this site. The life extension program has to be an animal human hybrid experiment. Why else would that primate virus spread to human beings so quickly! Is Alvar Hanso Joop! I believe he is.

I also messed around with the audio from the Jeep ad from a couple of days ago! I slowed it down and raised the pitch on it. Here is what that guy sounds like....

http://images.passafist.multiply.com/song/1/13/full/U2FsdGVkX1995OdKgsKdtpFdiyTzC72VdqFavJtvfrV1s7v8CSM7FA==/Jeep%20add%20audio.mp3

6/21/2006 12:25:00 PM  
Blogger Fenris said...

I don't think the joop thing is anything more then a herring. But there are a couple of Flowers of Life sites that have been registered recently but aren't up yet. Something to look out for anyway. The genuine site has been around for years (I found 2 old genuine sites and they have both been round for years so not even worth a mention).

Anyway, the Flowers thing seems the key info in the podcast.

6/21/2006 12:28:00 PM  
Blogger engineer27 said...

pilferk:

And here I was getting ready to prepare a whole description of what their Merkabah meditation is all about, and how it ties into the book of Ezekiel, etc.

Oh well. Never mind.

6/21/2006 12:31:00 PM  
Blogger engineer27 said...

luke:
Maybe they harvested Hanso's organs to keep Joop alive!

6/21/2006 12:33:00 PM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

it is a cool press release, creepy how Hanso is infiltrating all levels

6/21/2006 12:37:00 PM  
Blogger SweetScrapper said...

How do people reach DJ Dan? He moves around every week and never broadcasts from the same spot. How do people know what number to call?

Ok, I know this isn't important, but it bugs me.

SweetScrapper

6/21/2006 12:39:00 PM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

I am also VERY glad to see that she had added security to her comments. No more anonymous posting. Should keep the S**t level to a minimum

6/21/2006 12:42:00 PM  
Blogger Arkay said...

i think we're definately going to have to do something with 'flower of life' before we're done.

6/21/2006 12:42:00 PM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

good lyz32814

6/21/2006 12:45:00 PM  
Blogger oxillini said...

Hugh's email adress is at the bottom of the press release.

6/21/2006 12:47:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

I guess the Kimmel McIntyre wasn't an imposter after all.

6/21/2006 12:50:00 PM  
Blogger oxillini said...

For forty years, the
foundation has offered grants to worthy experiments designed to further
the evolution of the human race and provide technological solutions to
the most pressing problems of our time.

So I think the de Groot's had an idea on how to further human evolution, specifically in the psychological realm. So Hanso cut the checks for DHARMA to conduct experiments on a remote island known only to Hanso.

6/21/2006 12:53:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

I liked the original Hugh McIntyre better. I thought he really fit into everything a deceptive businessman should be. The new one looks too casual. i cant really explain it.

Also, how do they explain the voice in the original phone message.

6/21/2006 12:58:00 PM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

gotta go to court.

6/21/2006 01:00:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

GOOD LORD! I just got on and ALREADY...new stuff to do!! LOL

Not sure if anyone is on this yet...but could someone transcribe the new DJDan? I would but I suck at it. I am working on a project as well.

6/21/2006 01:01:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Can anyone make out what it says under the Corporate Liason's picture in the last image on RB's post? I think it's just numbers or is it a name?

6/21/2006 01:02:00 PM  
Blogger oxillini said...

so, do we still want to save joop?

6/21/2006 01:03:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Hey, Lena! I need you to delete your timeline. I emailed you.

6/21/2006 01:03:00 PM  
Blogger SweetScrapper said...

I didn't see the Wed. post on RoT yet today. Anyone think we'll have more from them than yesterday's 48 hours reference?

SweetScrapper

6/21/2006 01:12:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Anyone think it is odd that the last known thing we got from P was her 'presumed' capture...now we have this Rachel Blake girl, could she be a plant from THF to steer us in the wrong direction?

6/21/2006 01:32:00 PM  
Blogger WatermarkStudents said...

I understand the questions you guys are asking but I think the assumption that Rachel=Persephone=Good Guy is a safe one. Doubtful that TPTB would lead us that astray.

Just posted the Growing Pains lyrics for Rachel to read with a link to the video. Hope she enjoys it.

6/21/2006 01:41:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Admins - LMAO!!! I saw that and could not beleive it...I am sure she will be getting a nice laugh from it...

6/21/2006 01:44:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

maybe hugh's real wife is dead.

6/21/2006 01:46:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

maybe he is widowed or divorced...being one of those two things does not mean he is not a family man...it doesn't matter, the fact of the matter is that Rachel is showing us that he is deceptive...

6/21/2006 01:48:00 PM  
Blogger WatermarkStudents said...

Don't have time...can anyone tell if the message on P's page is new?

http://persephone.thehansofoundation.org/--.swf

Email us. Thanks. Bye for now.

6/21/2006 01:52:00 PM  
Blogger Brussels Tales said...

in regards to this "don't trust rachel" thing, if we don't trust her, who are we supposed to trust? from the get-go people said "don't trust P" and "don't trust DJ Dan" - but if we can't trust any of these in-game personas, who the heck are we supposed to rely on for information? You have to assume that some people in this game are going to be telling the truth, or you're not going to get anywhere. What would the X-Files have been if no one trusted Mulder or Scully? Think about it.

6/21/2006 01:58:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

admin. the numbers are now
101 118 105 100 101 110 116 32 97 103 101 110 100 97 on persephones site. is that the same as before?

6/21/2006 02:02:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Admin:

the numbers going backward on persephones site are the same as before giving evident agenda. If you didnt know already.

6/21/2006 02:04:00 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

God, a Farker could do a better photoshop of a wedding photo than that crappy job on Rachel's site.

That, combined with the French issue (why would a Danish restaurant have to so fear French solicitors that they'd have to put up a sign?), makes me doubt the veracity of Ms. Rachel. Not throw it out the window, just doubt.

With all the technology we've been exposed to in Persephone's hacks, and the THF site in general, we shouldn't have to expect that a wedding picture should look that junky.

6/21/2006 02:11:00 PM  
Blogger Fenris said...

I've anagramed that sign to death now. I've said on IRC and I'll say it here. If it is an anagram I'll eat my hat. I have "Deep Costal Prog", "A Spaceport Lodge", "Polar Cage Depots". "Go Toppled Caesar", "Page a Closed Port", and several that have already been mentioned. Personally I think the angle is a load of "Castle Grade Poop" (which is also a possible anagram).

Anyway, I did a frequency comparison between R and P and it didn't look the same. But it is inconclusive. I looked up some proper voice comparison techniques and it's a lot more complex then what I did. I'm not convinced P is R, just because R seems a bit more amature, but then that's Hackers for you. They seem clued in and smart while hacking but then they turn out to be some spotty 13 year old kid. *shrug* Jurys out. The post today seems to suggest R wasn't Hughs girl, but I think the majority didn't go for that one anyway.

As for the Flowers thing, I posted a link in a previous clue to a theory from another message board that seems to tie in.

http://www.thetailsection.com/lost_news/

I do think we will see a website for it soon though. There doesn't seem to be anything legitimate up yet though.

6/21/2006 02:15:00 PM  
Blogger Fenris said...

I don't think it matters if we trust Rachel or not. Either way we need to follow her lead for information. Once we have it we can debate it's value. I don't see the harm in just going with her right now. Although if she asks to meet you in a secluded location it may be wise to check the area for black vans with little radar dishes on the roof first.

6/21/2006 02:18:00 PM  
Blogger kilgore said...

I wouldn't think anything of the "pas de colportage" sign except it stands out so much. If it was naturally on the door like that it would be harder to read - see how the door itself is slightly out of focus? I am sure it means something, as to me it looks like it was intentionally put there.

6/21/2006 02:27:00 PM  
Blogger WichitaWrangler said...

The sign is French and in English means No Hawking...not like Stephen Hawking, though I considered the pysicist, but as in no peddling or selling of goods outside the restaurant...although I did search for Pas De Colportage and some interesting literature about religion and Allah and stuff came up once I tranlated it...don't know the correlation.

My point, however, is maybe it is No Hawking we need an anagram for.

Sorry if this has all been said already, got up late...and its pay-day, so I've got money to spend!!!

6/21/2006 02:27:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

My thinking as well, Bely, been refreshing it constantly

6/21/2006 02:32:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Bely = Belly

Sorry

So much is happening so fast!!

6/21/2006 02:32:00 PM  
Blogger oxillini said...

Belly, maybe her page will change tomorrow? 48 hours from the ROT clue?

6/21/2006 02:34:00 PM  
Blogger The Alternative One said...

Team Lena -->

D.J. Dan podcast 06/21 transcription can be found at my website

http://thealternativelostgame.blogspot.com/

The Alternative One

6/21/2006 02:45:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

New hex codes found in the latest comments of the DJDan podcast are:

00000270 00000032 0001F8A0 000015DF 0001B918 000340C8 00007F8D 00008052 0001B8E8 0001B918

I have still never found a meaning for them (nor anyone else tht I know) but I feel they must be in there for a reason.

Just throwing that in.

6/21/2006 02:55:00 PM  
Blogger kilgore said...

So, I am sure everyone has seen it, but was there anything of interest in DJ Dan's video on the Broadband Stories web site?

6/21/2006 02:57:00 PM  
Blogger The Penuels said...

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6/21/2006 02:57:00 PM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

Anyone check the source code on persephone.thehansofoundation ? maybe the change (if there is one) is there.

6/21/2006 03:00:00 PM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

in which comment section?

6/21/2006 03:02:00 PM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

sorry belly found it........turns out I was in the wrong one - too many screens up at once

6/21/2006 03:05:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Nice work though belly. I noticed a couple of rachels comments but you made it a lot more easy for me. Thanks again.

6/21/2006 03:21:00 PM  
Blogger Justin said...

Reguarding all of the nitpicking of Rachel's photos --

Remember that everything in TLE is essentailly an in-game fake. Albiet a well-paid in-game fake, but a fake nevertheless. So technically speaking they could only do things as well as a good computer whiz over here in the dark could.

6/21/2006 03:36:00 PM  
Blogger kittenry said...

1) A few people have mentioned the Alvar Hanso / Joop connection that DJ Dan forwarded in his podcast. I am kind of surprised there hasn't been more of a reaction to this. It is positively ludicrous, no matter what kind of treatments Hanso receives (or received), it is simply not possible that a human could be transmogrified into an ourang-outang. It's just ludicrous.

2) Cryogenics, which I've seen theoretically linked to Hanso, is also simply not advanced to the point where a human being could even be revived. Now, if he was stored, it is within the realm of possibility that Hanso has gone missing whilst the HF attempts to recreate him through cloning. There are scientists and organisations - particularly (surpise!) in - currently working on the process.

3)
Xenotransplantation seems to be a more likely connection between Hanso and Joop, as this is an actual recorded occurrence.

4) The links being established between the Hanso Foundation and the slave trade in the eighteenth and nineteenth century are not surprising, given our previous exposure to these kinds of elements in the show itself (black rock, locke dissuading eko from becoming a slave to the computers, as well as the sense that the DHARMA Initiative (and the HF) in forcing people in completely inappropriate ways into different kinds of experimentation.

5) I am growing increasingly suspicious of Rachel Blake and the information she is dispensing. Doubtless much of the intel she's dispensing is legitimate. The Mulder and Scully allusion made earlier in these comments is an interesting one, but it is flawed. Rachel is an "insider" (at least formerly) to the HF or to one of its subsidiary corporations.

Her role in this adventure seems to be more aligned (on X-Files terms) to Deep Throat, X, the Well-Manicured Man, or Marita Covarrubias - all people who gave enough information to tantalize, but never at the cost of their own interests. I posit that Rachel Blake may be up to something not dissimilar. I have further thoughts on RB, particularly on her historical and literary namesakes, but that can wait.

6) Rachel has to be in her mid-twenties, as far as her age goes. Is it really plausible that a person of this age, who sits in a car right in front of the archive building, or pursuing Mittlewerk wouldn't have been spotted or apprehended yet by some of the HF's goons? I mean, if Mr. Paik knew enough of Jin's intentions to send an operative to follow him to the Sydney airport when he was on an ostensibly official assignment from Paik, then doesn't it make sense that a girl in her mid-twenties, broadcasting all over the internet could be tracked and captured?

Enough for now.

6/21/2006 03:38:00 PM  
Blogger kittenry said...

Not sure why it didn't show up, but the cloning link I tried to post was to scientists in (surprise! again) South Korea.

6/21/2006 03:39:00 PM  
Blogger GhettoGumby said...

Wizardry: I think the hex codes in the DJ Dan podcast comments are just junk. I accidently checked the comments in the Lost Experience Podcast Episode 6 and it has some of the same hexes. So I downloaded other LEC podcasts and they all have similar codes. So maybe its just a tracker for the podcast...but unfortunately I think they mean nothing. Sad though...I had hoped they were a clue.

6/21/2006 03:39:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Way to go kittenry. Nice read. I agree especially that hanso/joop is crazy. I feel that DJDan saying that is further evidence to suggest that he does have some crazy (and off the mark) theories and you just have to get the right ones.

ghettogumby. I will still record them but I guess you are right about the hex codes. What gets me is that the first podcast had no such code. Thanks for that though.

6/21/2006 03:46:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

I guess something will change and we should keep an eye.

6/21/2006 03:53:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Did anyboday download a copy of rachels old blog locally. That sound like an interesting sneak into what is to come to me. So much ggoing on this week I never put two and two together. Thanks moxy29

6/21/2006 03:54:00 PM  
Blogger Justin said...

moxy29 - do you have a link?

6/21/2006 03:55:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

natevoodoo:

Could be that it was just referring to the same life extension of Joop and Alvar. I never thought of that.

6/21/2006 03:56:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

I remember now. Someone in a previous comments said that it had been moved somewhere I am sure. I will check.

6/21/2006 03:59:00 PM  
Blogger Justin said...

It sounds like a slip, just like the first Rachel Blake video. Someone found it when they were not supposed to.

6/21/2006 04:01:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Couldnt find it. Sorry.

6/21/2006 04:06:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

I do believe that the old rachel blog was found before it should have been by someone who searched the blogs (I know areroses had done this). What I find interesting is the entries that are not in her blog just now.

6/21/2006 04:09:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

I need to post this before I explode LOL:

I have new possible theory on DJDan...

What if...DJDan was a "pro hanso" and was simply putting out this podcast to make everyone THINK he is just a normal run of the mill conspiracy nutjob.

Please notice that he mentions Persephone but SHE DOES NOT mention him. He might be trying to make her discredible to the masses.

If you were an insider pretending to be a nutjob to throw OFF all wrong doings of hanso, wouldnt you ALSO try and drag someone who IS GOOD threw the mud to make them appear nutty as you so noone would listen to them????

WAR OF THE WORLDS...WAG THE DOG...F IS FOR FAKE...

I also think persephone was the one who put the video on calling DJDan a sellout...

Hope this made any sence LOL its hard to explain...

6/21/2006 04:24:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Lena: I hear you...there seems to be a lot of players here...I think they might be trying to acheive the same goal though...sort of competing interests to shutdown the man...and DJ Dan seems egomaniacal at times...

6/21/2006 04:27:00 PM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

NINJA HAS SAID IT IS JUST HIS ASSUMPTION THAT RACHEL AND PERSEPHONE ARE THE SAME!!!

I've said it a few times, but yeah... heck if you read page two of the comments on Ninja's blog you'd see where he replied to me and said as much. Sorry, it just bugs me that people aren't picking up on the important information. And i haven't even refreshed to see if this has already been pointed out because clearly it needs to be done multiple times.

~sigh~ I'm going away for a while to calm down

6/21/2006 04:39:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

Yes, thrasher, he does...

He seems to be in the owelles folder alot LOL . I am really leaning towards him being an insider for hanso, and is trying to simply DISCREDIT persephone by making it LOOK like she is with him in his crazy theories.

Lets look back and think of persephones goals vs. djdans theories...

OK OK OK....just thought of this LOL...

Persephone DOES NOT BASH alvar hanso, just more on the lines of wandering where he went....D J DAN BASHES ALVAR ALL THE TIME!!!!!!!!!!! Seems to me, persephone has a different agenda than DJDan...

6/21/2006 04:40:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

Me and hubby have a new theory....it totally explains just about EVERYTHING....(even the show, island etc...)

We will be posting this when the time is right on either my blog or his. That way Speaker cant erase it...its THAT good.

6/21/2006 04:56:00 PM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

the posts that were on the tacosalad blog seemed more like the coverstory ones, I remember there being the Italian riviera, Paris and Iceland. Alas, I didn't think of saving them either. Hindsight is so lovely

6/21/2006 05:06:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Belly:
Did someone in the previous comments not say that it translated to waking dream? Not sure if it was the gold symbol or something else.

arerosesred:
I am not sure what you are referring to but I mentioned that "rosesare" said about searching blogs. Is this you. And the reason why it came up is that someone had mentioned that the original rachel blake blog (gone now) mentioned posts that are not in her new blog site and it was thought that the original blog was found early (before time) and that the other posts may have been a snippet at what is to come. I was wondering if anybody had saved the original blog to their harf drive.

Sorry if this is not what you meant.

6/21/2006 05:09:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

rumiko:

thanks for clearing that up about the translation. Much appreciated.

6/21/2006 05:22:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

i hate to spoil everyone's fun, but i think the sign is just a sign.


now go out there and prove me wrong.

6/21/2006 05:22:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

OK. im looking at the image of mcintyre's mistress' ID badge, and it looks like her middle name is Widmore.

That'd be an interesting twist.

6/21/2006 05:30:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

its like the missing organs password. we know it means something, we just dont know what

6/21/2006 05:43:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

it be funny if h. mac was cheating with an american idol player. arent lost and american idol swarn enemies?

6/21/2006 05:50:00 PM  
Blogger WichitaWrangler said...

Man, I said that sign means something 4 hours ago and I translated it and I'm sticking to it...it just looks way to weird and prominent not to be a clue. No Hawking seems way to random of a thing to include in a picture as well unless there is something to it...if they wanted us to know it was a hotel, I don't think "No Hawking" would do the trick.

6/21/2006 05:59:00 PM  
Blogger WichitaWrangler said...

Good Stuff Louie!!!

Where was this exact Hex code taken from?

6/21/2006 06:15:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

NO F&£KING WAY louie 1. I have been looking for ages and I even put it down to nothing.

Here are all the hexcodes.

And these are the hex codes and filenames with the podcasts.

1.
a.mp3
no hex codes (I dont really know why this one is the only one that doesnt have codes except the sublymonal ones)

2.
From sublymonal (let me know if you need link to mp3)

3.
DJDan6-01.mp3
000001B5 00000027 00007056 0000210A 0003C3D8 0003DED8 0000746E 00006CB9 0003DBF0 0003CDE0

4.
GeneticEngineering_Monster.mp3
0000035D 0000002F 0001D2E1 000039B2 00028578 000403F8 00008466 00008645 0003E220 00028548
(this one was moved after the monster rachel leak. New filename is b.mp3 but the hex code is the same)

5.
DJD061406.mp3
000001D0 0000001B 00009541 00001E51 0001DE98 00001E90 000079AF 000074AA 00030750 0001DE80

6.
From sublymonal (let me know if you need link to mp3)

7.
DJDan6-21.mp3
00000270 00000032 0001F8A0 000015DF 0001B918 000340C8 00007F8D 00008052 0001B8E8 0001B918

6/21/2006 06:19:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

The hex codes come from the comments by right clicking on the file name, clicking properties, then summary. And then you see the codes in the comments.


If you are right louie1 Thanks, Thanks and thanks again. I will check it myself shortly.

6/21/2006 06:21:00 PM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

fnord

just dwelling on the Xenotransplantation idea. I know of transplant stories in humans where people feel they have taken on some characteristics (or memories?) of the people they recived organs from. You could go a similar route with cross-species organ transplant so maybe Alvar is acting less human and more like Joop (and vice versa). Just an idea... you never really know what they're going to bring into this

6/21/2006 06:23:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Bugger. I think I have been had. :(

Thanks belly

6/21/2006 06:24:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

cag said:
George Bush said in his State of the Union address that "... the most egregious abuse of medical research; the creation of human-animal hybrids ... could the President of the United States be In-Game?!?

I SURE AS HELL HOPE NOT...I might have to QUIT! LOL

6/21/2006 06:33:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

hen I said I had been had I meant that I had took you to mean that the hex literally translated into that. Silly me. Belly knew what you meant thoug.

6/21/2006 06:33:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

louie1:
I didnt mean you deliberately set me up. Sorry.

6/21/2006 06:35:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

alohaprincess.

In the first < a > you must also include the address you are linking to.

< a href="url of site toi link to" >

Hope this helps.

6/21/2006 06:39:00 PM  
Blogger thinbluemime said...

I have been posting about MUTANTS on my blog since MARCH 2006...Yall better hurry up to catch up :)
http://users.newblog.com/thinbluemime/?blogcategory_id=218

6/21/2006 06:41:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

6/21/2006 06:41:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Woken me up. If I were dead it got me doing backflips. I wasnt dead and now the room is a tip in all my excitement. Oh well. I am laughing about it. Just dont tell anyone.

6/21/2006 06:42:00 PM  
Blogger thinbluemime said...

louie1 - Autistic savants, Just the one blog entry and the link at bottom of that blog...google search will pull up tons of stuff on it.

But now we are onto bigger and better subjects...like human transgenics and MUTANTS LOL

6/21/2006 06:57:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

JUST A REMINDER...

GO TO SAVEJOOP.com and sign the petition!!!

Have your kids, family etc...sign too!

6/21/2006 07:09:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

smiley:
wtf?

6/21/2006 07:15:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

thomas jefferson snodgrass:

I does repeat and has been on there for a while. Here is the sound. Or if you want to download it then right click and save as here

6/21/2006 07:38:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

I havent seen it linked so I thought I would post it here. This is what is being said on persephone.thehansofoundation.org backwards. here

6/21/2006 07:49:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

I know tht it gives us evident agenga but I thought I would post it if anyone hasnt heard the numbers and wanted to.

6/21/2006 07:53:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

WOW wizard...thats cool hearing that backwards, but still couldnt tell what the heck it says.

I should put that as my myspace music LOL Just kidding

6/21/2006 08:02:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

I signed joop with friends names (yes, a little help from my friends LOL) and didnt get any pic/video...was I suppose to?

6/21/2006 08:03:00 PM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

rumikp, probably seeing if someone in particular (iobi?) was on and didn't stay on to deal wtih 10 million IM chats

6/21/2006 08:06:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

rumiko:
No problem

You can see the face at http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Joop%27s_Corner

You can also see it here

If i find a better pic I will post it.

6/21/2006 08:08:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Really sorry guys. I posted the forward version. The backward version I will post in a moment.

6/21/2006 08:13:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Here is the sound on the persephone site backwards. I am really sorry about that. I am an idiot.

backwards

6/21/2006 08:19:00 PM  
Blogger Natalie said...

are these numbers new? i haven't really been up with the persephone numbers lately

6/21/2006 08:26:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

No they are not new. They are what translated into ascii letters (see here) to give "evident agenda" which was the password to the "extra info" box on rachel blakes site when it opened.

6/21/2006 08:30:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Well they are relatively new but things have moved so fast that they do not seem new anymore. :)

6/21/2006 08:31:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Well I am off to bed. Good night people.

6/21/2006 08:33:00 PM  
Blogger JFray said...

I played around with the Badge ID# from Hugh's Girl and got the following:

#9984TWHQ

I'm not so sure about the 8, but the other characters look good. I tried to enhance the photo as much as possible and got this:

ID Badge

Couldn't blow it up any more than that without extreme pixelation. I honestly don't think this is a clue, tho.

6/21/2006 08:36:00 PM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

is it just me or an odd coincidence that at the same time the Hanso Foundation come into the GWC a number of African countries are kicked out? Sure, there is a reason given... "ethnic cleansing". Wonder if that ethnic cleansing has anything to do with missing organs or diseases originating from the Hanso Foundation?

6/21/2006 08:44:00 PM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

jfray I think you've got it! I tried sharpening it in Photoshop but other than working out it was not a name but numbers/letters I didn't get any further. Right, so... any significance in them?

6/21/2006 08:47:00 PM  
Blogger JFray said...

I don't think there is. I did that earlier for the peeps in the IRC channel..I couldn't think of any reason why that string of characters was important :(

6/21/2006 08:53:00 PM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

sometimes a string of characters is just a string of characters :)

6/21/2006 08:58:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

calm before the storm?

6/21/2006 09:20:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

im sorry but i missed lost. im assuming there was no hanso commercial, right?

6/21/2006 09:43:00 PM  
Blogger Benthic said...

matt the pale: I agree. I fall asleep all day with a horrible stomachache and wake up to find that nothing has happened really since this morning. Up for burning the midnight oil and tracking down any possible leads, dude?

6/21/2006 11:16:00 PM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

ARGH! Belly, a little warning dude!

Whose up for some more light entertainment?

Lost clip

6/21/2006 11:21:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Hey, everyone!

Lavenda: The link on the Lost clip isn't working for me.

6/21/2006 11:25:00 PM  
Blogger Benthic said...

bleargh. I loathe slow nights.
I'm going to go toy around with the images from Rachel's 3rd post for a while.
I still think the "No soliciting" sign look dubious, at best.
Anyhoo, I'll be around all night, everyone. Always am, always will be.

6/21/2006 11:26:00 PM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

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6/21/2006 11:32:00 PM  
Blogger Benthic said...

trevorgladez: I don't think the whole Joop=Hanso things holds any truth, except for a possible simile between their actual ages. Maybe DJDan thought he was being clever by comparing the supernaturally long life spans of the two. But, you're right about that, at least. If it is true (and I don't believe it will be), then TLE really will have been a monumental waste of time.

Still.. I think the folks who are running this ARG are a lost smarter than to lead us on with such a horrible ending.

6/21/2006 11:33:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

TG: I gather Rachel was letting us know that the original source of Alvar's wealth was based on the slave trade. I guess we all have skeleton's in our closets if we dig deep enough.

6/21/2006 11:34:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Thanks, Lavenda. I've seen that before. Really scared me the first few times!

6/21/2006 11:35:00 PM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

maven I still do! It's the knowing what's coming, the anticipation...

6/21/2006 11:36:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

I think Alvar=Joop is totally off-the-wall. I think all the Life Extension stuff might have something to do with the missing organs clue and organ harvesting in Cape Town. Maybe THF was experimenting on Joop by transplanting organs that were failing. Alvar might be the first human to use what they tried on Joop.

6/21/2006 11:41:00 PM  
Blogger Benthic said...

QFT??

6/21/2006 11:47:00 PM  
Blogger Benthic said...

lavena: ARGH! BLAST YOU AND THE POLAR BEAR TOO!

6/21/2006 11:51:00 PM  
Blogger bellaknoti said...

for anyone who needs html help, this is the site i learned it all from:

HTML Goodies

there's a section called the "master list" that you can go to to find whatever tag you currently need, without having to learn it all from scratch.

not a plug, just a link - got no vested interest in the site. hope it's helpful.

-b

6/21/2006 11:51:00 PM  
Blogger bellaknoti said...

the official verizon "about us" page says that their hq is in bedminster, nj.

i wasn't able to come up with a listing of all their corporate branches, though.

6/21/2006 11:58:00 PM  
Blogger Benthic said...

matt the pale: I hate new acronyms. Everything is acronymed.. Thanks, though. :)

Also, nothing important, but I noticed that the Perseph' site has a slightly different video than it used to, almost like it's subtly being updated so that nobody can catch onto it. I noticed that just as soon as the page loads, the woman's (P?) face flashes very boldly and then immediately goes pale and desaturated, to blend in with the black around her. I managed to nab a shot of that one single frame at the beginning of the Flash.

AND HERE SHE IS All rotated and unaltered. I just cropped around her to make the file smaller. We now have a very clear face for the Persephone site.

6/22/2006 12:05:00 AM  
Blogger bellaknoti said...

i'm not convinced that those are not just retail arms or warehouses. if the guys on ROT are working in a verizon office building, then what we need is a listing of their corporate offices, specifically. :/ it occured to me that if i email them, they might send me one. otoh, they might think i'm a terrorist.

6/22/2006 12:05:00 AM  
Blogger bellaknoti said...

thank you rose. :) it may be nothing, but who knows, what if finding out where the ROT people are posting from becomes pertinent? you don't have to send it to me, but if you get the info, why not post it here?

-b

6/22/2006 12:11:00 AM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

Hey everyone!

OT here:

I found this skimming through the LOSTpedia and Wikpedia site!

Terre Haute is also home to the CANDLES HOLOCAUST MUSEUM [1]. CANDLES stands for Children of Auschwitz Nazi Deadly Lab Experiment Survivors and is the creation of a survivor from that deadly period of history

6/22/2006 12:22:00 AM  
Blogger Benthic said...

Well, /that/ sure is an uplifting and cheerful fact.
heh Joking, of course.
But I can't help but notice the name CANDLE in there.

6/22/2006 12:24:00 AM  
Blogger Dr3dPir8 said...

Maven, trevorgladez, etc. - I recall seeing something on Discovery (or Discovery Health) about "real-world" life expectancy altering. The point of the research was that there is a gene that controls a cells ability to "repair" itself. Basically, as a person ages and/or passes their reproductive prime, something in the body triggers the cells to stop repairing themselves. This is what we commonly know as the aging process. It is widely believed that if this gene can be found, then there may be a way to switch it so that cells will continue to repair themselves indefinitely. If our bodies continue repairing themselves, then greatly increased life-spans are possible. Immortality may be a stretch, but theoretically would be possible. In summary, our bodies die because our genetic make-up is programmed for it. If we change the program, life can be prolonged.

I know this wasn't all that was involved, but should be the general idea.

6/22/2006 12:24:00 AM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

LOL maybe I should have pointed out what I was getting at there...

Terre Haute...the city where Pete Thompson and maybe DJDan is from. Most likely nothing, just an interesting insite.

6/22/2006 01:23:00 AM  
Blogger Justin said...

There's something I've been thinking about recently.

What's with the difficulty level? I mean, with so many people working on it, they could at least try a little harder to make the clues more difficult to crack. The only "difficult" clue (meaning, it took us more than a couple of hours to solve as a community) was that first Hole picture. And that wasn't even difficult by normal ARG standards.

What I was really looking forward to was encrypted files. Not ASCII or Rot13, but maybe truely encrypted files that would take even the experts a few days to solve. Or maybe something alluding to deep history that would take a good trip to the library or two to figure it out.

I'm not saying that it's not fun right now, but it's a bit too easy. I don't know about you, but I've been there and done that. This so far is just "hidden links" and "The Best Encryptian Ever: ASCII Binary, played backwards".

If ABC can read this, I'm just asking them to maybe up the ante a bit. Hanso is a huge corporation, here. If a bunch of normal people can solve all of Rachel's puzzles, then it only makes sense that Hanso could figure them out in a heartbeat.

6/22/2006 01:46:00 AM  
Blogger Benthic said...

mstk: I agree, up to a point. It's a huge ARG so far, with lots of people playing due to the popularity of the show, so it needs to quite litterally be puzzles and clues for the average viewer. I like the complexity of some of these clues so far, but I also agree that they could be much more complex. With how rich the Lost world's mythos and background is, I'm sure the people running the TLE ARG are putting in a lot of elements many people will never grasp.

I'd love a more exclusive game, where only the best cyphers and coders and cryptics understand the best clues, but I don't think it'll happen. Maybe towards the end of the third act it will get that complex. Things have gotten a little more difficult since the beginning of the game, of course, so maybe it's only slowly progressing. No sudden sharp learning curve.

Although, only a handful of players are finding the best clues. Many are just along for the ride.

6/22/2006 02:03:00 AM  
Blogger Justin said...

mochi - that's kind of my point. The majority of us don't even participate in the clue solving, or when we try to, someone always beats us to it. Harder clues would give us hopefuls a greater chance of solving them, and plus it wouldn't affect those people who are just "along for the ride", beucase they don't solve clues anyway.

6/22/2006 02:21:00 AM  
Blogger Benthic said...

Well, let's just hope that things continue to get progressively more and more difficult as we enter into the second act.

And I hate just waiting around for the next podcast or web video. It makes the game uninteresting. It turns it from an active playable game into a waiting game.

6/22/2006 02:30:00 AM  
Blogger Justin said...

Yeah, that's kind of what I mean. Maybe clues that took more than a couple hours to crack would make the game more playable.

6/22/2006 02:43:00 AM  
Blogger Justin said...

Oh, no. Here come the slow nights again, when commenting frequency drops about 4815162342%.

6/22/2006 03:08:00 AM  
Blogger Benthic said...

There are always little pauses in between acts. They're building up, getting things running on a daily schedule, instead of a weekly one. It will get so much better. I can feel it down in my bones. My bones whisper me sweet secrets.

6/22/2006 05:02:00 AM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

OMG, it's an Aussie site! Now if only it was something really in Aus, not just in Aus cyber space... a hunting we will go...

6/22/2006 05:45:00 AM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

jason:

Thanks. Off to check it out.

Lavenda:
A little warning. I nearly had a heart attack. The scene from Lost that is depicted gives me the heeby jeebies as it is. And just as I was starting to focus in on it. AAARGH. Damn polar bear. Getting a laugh about it now though.

6/22/2006 05:46:00 AM  
Blogger Benthic said...

yeehaw
The search continues.

6/22/2006 05:55:00 AM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

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6/22/2006 06:08:00 AM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

thetruthtempest mentioned that rblake and 105years could be a username/password.

I am off to joop.com

I have found nothing on the site rachel linked to to find the video here

Anybody else?

6/22/2006 06:09:00 AM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

I think the clue will be on the channel 7 site in half an hour when Lost has finished airing tonight (Dave, for anyone interested). I'm guessing the secret clue page... maybe it is the Ninja... we will have to see

6/22/2006 06:10:00 AM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Seems many people are trying the rblake and 105years login and password on savejoop. LOL

6/22/2006 06:15:00 AM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

oh, and noone hate me too much over the polar bear please? Just think of all the people you can now get with it! ~mwahahahahaha~

6/22/2006 06:21:00 AM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

lavenda:

That is exactly what I am doing now. Sending a link to the polar bear vid to everyone I know. I have never jumped more in such a long long time. I cant wait to see other peoples reactions. I actually thank you for posting it now my heart beat is returning to normal. :)

6/22/2006 06:26:00 AM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Oh well. Off to do some work I suppose. I will keep checking back.

6/22/2006 06:30:00 AM  
Blogger Passafist said...

Okay this may sound crazy....

But I've been playing around with the SaveJoop audio that plays every once in a while on Save Joop.com. I was able to remove a lot of the background noise and I've isolated what sounds like, "Cincinatti, He's Going!"

Here is the audio....

http://images.passafist.multiply.com/song/1/15/full/U2FsdGVkX1.qgCTqWTHxlY7yCl,AbHVndmd2K5zuqLdQZhSCDQTZIw==/Joop.mp3


first untouched followed by my touched up audio where I remove a lot of the background noise....

6/22/2006 07:08:00 AM  
Blogger Passafist said...

hbusOOPS, now my question... is Joop heading to the Cincinatti Zoo?? Is he at a resarch lab in Ohio?? or am I just crazy!

6/22/2006 07:19:00 AM  
Blogger thinbluemime said...

Here is a link to lastes Rachel Blake Clue. Unfortunately it is in Korean.

"I took it upon myself to slip a little something special in the pepper-shaker... and then, with my telephoto lens, I picked up a Korean man sitting down to tofu and noodles with Mittelwerk"

http://au.i1.yimg.com/au.yimg.com/i/tv/lost/gallery/mischief/utrans_late.mp3

MP# COMMENTS Field

00000167 00000015 00004C8C 000004DB 0000B8C8 0000B490 00005F52 00005F9B 0000B208 0000B208

6/22/2006 10:23:00 AM  
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