Clue #60 - Rachel Blake Copenhagen Post 04 & LYCGY Trash
Rachel Blake Update:
Rachel has updated her blog again. She links to an Australian LOST message board and claims to have recorded a conversation between Mittlewerk and a Korean man. She also signed her post "rblake, 105 years." So...if you go to the message board and click "reply" to any message, and then click on the "objectionable comment" link to the right. It takes you to a log-in.
LetYourCompassGuideYou Update:
There is a record of a conversation in the trash folder of the directory of the Jeep sponsored LetYourCompassGuideYou.com site. Seems to be giving us insight into the early days of Rachel's quest for truth. (OpenersHep = Persephone = Rachel B) William in the conversation is the William T. Kilpatrick from this contract, which means he is the WTK in this video.
After you read, click HERE...Is this the right path? Are we looking for another username & password for the zip file? Where is that zip file?
Thanks to Evil^^, Jim, Julie, Thrasher76, Gail, Sarah, & BellyOfDesire for emailing this info to us first.
Rachel has updated her blog again. She links to an Australian LOST message board and claims to have recorded a conversation between Mittlewerk and a Korean man. She also signed her post "rblake, 105 years." So...if you go to the message board and click "reply" to any message, and then click on the "objectionable comment" link to the right. It takes you to a log-in.
User Name: rblake
Password: 105years
"Peeping on Tom" then becomes a hyperlink - click it to listen to the audio. The translation of the discussion is on Rachel's blog.
LetYourCompassGuideYou Update:
There is a record of a conversation in the trash folder of the directory of the Jeep sponsored LetYourCompassGuideYou.com site. Seems to be giving us insight into the early days of Rachel's quest for truth. (OpenersHep = Persephone = Rachel B) William in the conversation is the William T. Kilpatrick from this contract, which means he is the WTK in this video.
After you read, click HERE...Is this the right path? Are we looking for another username & password for the zip file? Where is that zip file?
Thanks to Evil^^, Jim, Julie, Thrasher76, Gail, Sarah, & BellyOfDesire for emailing this info to us first.
407 Comments:
Yikes, thanks for the heads up...
people have been trying it as a signature in save joop doesnt look like its worked
considering Rachel sent us to Channel 7 I don't know why they've gone to savejoop.com.
Either this clue is really hidden well or it hasn't gone up on the channel 7 site when it was supposed to.
luke, yeah the code is stuffed for the downloads link, just take out the 'messages' part of the url
i just think its odd that RB would put a clue on a TLE message board. I thought the game was supposed to feel real.
they should post clues on savejoop.com or something.
This is bugging me lol. im skipping too many lessons to come into the theatre to jump on the laptop and get on to an unblocked staff acount to look for new clues and check the updates lol.. o well im getting away with it for now,...
Maybe the korean guy is MR. Paik!!
Y'know, Sun's father.
Jin's boss.
so n o one found the recording yet?
On the phone message, they did mention a paik heavy industries.
im off to a meeting. dont have too much fun without me.
Long time lurker, first time poster. Rachel's blog says that the recording is posted somewhere on the web. It does not mention anything specific about the message board except for the link. Maybe the message board is just the jumping off point to everything else LOST related on the au.yahoo page.
nyfeh, are you from the future? it's 2006, 105 years ago is not 1905 :-)
Lol. I see it's made some petition clearing work for SaveJoop. Either that or Rachel *really* wants to save Joop.
I've been around every in game site I can try this morning and not found diddley squat.
leolio -
It's also interesting to me that Apollo is the god most associated with prophets and premonition. He was the one who supposedly spoke through the pythia at Delphi and he gave Cassanda the power of prophecy at Troy. Definately a theme that Lost touches on, what with Walt and all.
The Joop guys would probably just send a sternly worded email anyway. Lol. It's not like they really have anywhere to make a sign waving protest. Unless they want to find that resteraunt.
The Joops site had that recording on it for ages. Sadly. I just don't get why there are links to that message board. The Lost Clue was just a Lost Clue, the Widgets just seem to be widgets and the message board isn't the easiest one to scan through.
a finger... on his *foot*... hmmm...
*giggle*
leolio :) He was not missing any appendages, that I remember.
You're right on him being the god of healing, I believe. He also liked to curse people who didn't do what he wanted them to do. He made Cassanda a prophet, but when she wouldn't sleep with him, he cursed her so that no one would ever believe her prophecies. I think that he was also involved in Odysseus being lost at sea for 10 years after the Trojan War, because Odysseus' men raped Trojan women in Apollo's temple. Odysseus couldn't get home to his wife - Penelope.
info on apollo
this page is pretty typical of his story, and is a pretty comprehensive overview. considering he was the ideal for greek male beauty, i doubt he was marred in any way.
Maybe you have to get to level 105 on the Island Runner game.
P.S. I'm not doing it. Lol.
http://au.messages.yahoo.com/rblake/105years
hows about this? or something similar?
similar to what tapdawg posted here is this thread, but having to do with sun (the korean link?): http://au.messages.yahoo.com/lost/sun-main/105/
This is probably on the completely wrong course, but...
She signed her post 105years, and linked to a Yahoo message board. Yahoo's standard logo is a Y. On nearly every page on the board I clicked on, there is a link for Yahoo music, which a Y wearing headphones. Yahoo ears? I clicked the link and looked around in it, but didn't see anything that stood out.
I so need to be getting ready for work right now, it's not even funny.
I noticed a link to "http://mb2.aue.yahoo.com/" in the comments of the board, followed by "uncompressed/chunked" and then a time that's exactly 15 hours ahead of the time the page was loaded. The URL just leads to a simple "do you yahoo?" with another comment just like the first one. Is that comment normally there?
I tried to take it as a clue, and following the format of "105years", I tried rblake / 15hours as login, but it didn't work. neither did rblake1901/15hours or rblake2111/15hours. Ah well.
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jaime:
you could be on the right track here. remember she said she'd use corporate websites to hide things. Yahoo hasn't been an in-game sponsor yet, but they could be jumping in.
Jaime - I feel your pain. I finally gave up and got ready and came to work. Just hoping that if it is found before I get home that someone transcribes it.
rnt, the time isn't 15 hours ahead for Australian eastern states. Speaking of which, I should be in bed...
Fenris-Tried playing the Island Runner game complete waste of time:) But I was running out of ideas. Jaime-I also have been looking at the Yahoo radio/audio links for about 2 hours now and nothing of note. There are about a million user stations, one by Rachel, but nothing but music. Nothing for 105 years, 105, etc... I agree with whoever said it up above, the audio hasn't been posted yet, like DJ Dan last week...we'll just have to be patient (yeah right...I'll still be looking).
lavenda - Oh, I didn't realize that EST could mean both eastern-United-States and eastern-Australia. Never mind.
:) have fun guys! And don't think all Aussies are like the posters on that board...
Sorry - removed my last post because I thought it might be a bit too spoiler-y for those outside of the US.
Gotta go work - somebody find that recording before I get back!
check comments on persephone/rachel's blog - seems someone got it.
sorry for length heres what they did apprently it works gunna find out.
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FOUND IT!! you're right ali!!!!! use "rblake" then "105years" and when it goes back to the same login, click the "peeping on tom"!!!!
At 4:44 PM, chucklez3 said...
it's all in freakin' KOREAN!!!!!! who speaks korean?
At 4:44 PM, xmozzazx said...
Must be a real Yahoo site, it auto logged me.
At 4:44 PM, Sleepy said...
Got it!!!!!
At 4:44 PM, Darkwing Duck said...
Anyone here speak Korean? Mine's rusty inmida.
At 4:44 PM, Logan said...
user: rblake
pass:105years
At 4:45 PM, ali said...
damn, i was soooo close it would have been my first find! good one though Chucklez3.
At 4:46 PM, chucklez3 said...
thanks.
At 4:46 PM, Logan said...
This really help none until someone speaks korean.
At 4:47 PM, laplislazuli said...
who speaks korean?
At 4:47 PM, Rorschach said...
Found something odd, maybe it's nothing. When you fail a login to Yahoo you get a second try, but with a distorted letters box. But when I try "rachelblake" as username, it doesn't show the distorted letters box. That could be a sign that that account is special. Looking at the profile shows it's an old account from 2000 though... so it's probably nothing.
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http://au.docs.yahoo.com/mittelwerk/
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http://au.i1.yimg.com/au.yimg.com/i/tv/lost/gallery/mischief/utrans_late.mp3
right-click, save target
Yes, here's how to do it. On the Lost message board, go to the Introduce Yourself board. Reply to any message. In the small print on the right, click on "objectionable content". You'll get a "peeping on tom" page. Log in as rblake and password 105years. You'll then get the same page, but "peeping on tom" will be a clickable link.
Anyone know Korean?
has anyone emailed admin?
Sign into yahoo? That doesn't work, the account is locked out.
mochi's girlfriend speaks korean. if we sit tight, it'll just be a matter of time. he's calling her right now.
yay go mochi, if he cant get hold of her theres those call in transtion services i think hospitals use them mostly
I did everything, but nothing happens after I login in with the user name and password. Help.
maven - after that, you can click on "peeping on tom".
Never mind. I didn't see that you needed to press the Peeping on Tom link. Korean, any one?
go into the introduce yourself thread. Click reply. Sign in using your own yahoo id. Easy to create one quickly if you need to. Then reply window opens. On right there is a link to "other objectionable content". Click and it takes you to "peeping on tom". There you enter the "rblake" user and "105 years" pass. The audio is in Korean. Any translators out there?
it worked, but we need to know a Korean now
mochi said...
Still translating, be patient, everyone!
It took a few tries to get ahold of her, but she's translating as we speak.
She'll call me back with the translation as soon as she's done!
LIGHTSPEED DUES EX MACHINA SAVE, GOOOO!!!!
MOCHI SAVES THE DAY BY DATING SEXY KOREAN GIRL!!
Looks like Rachel doesn't understand Korean either ... guess that's why the title of the file is utrans_late ... because she can't.
why do people on ITE think this is a red herring???
Goooooooo mochi's girlfriend! Bet she didn't think she'd be helping the losties today!
meghan! i see you followed my advice. welcome.
noblelawyer said...
mochi's girlfriend must be savy and smart too, not to mention cool for helping all of us out.
5:13 PM
mochi said...
That's what I said.
It took some coercion to get her away from her desk, because of how busy she is all the time, but I'm sooooo glad she's as great as she is. I love her so much. Also, to give a name for her, instead of "mochi's translation bot", everyone can call her "Ari".
dazzedelf: it was in korean. it's being translated and transcribed now.
I did hear the new clue. just now.
cant understand it though. where's sun when you need her, right.
dee: the email says anagram is a password?
paik is such a common name there, it's like smith. it's A paik, but might not be THE paik...
id bet its mr. paik.
isn't this better than ITE. no trolls, spammers or wolfes.
i hope we here more about that radio tower!
why dont you write it down meghan? i dont think anyone else will be interested in posting as you. why would they?
dee - this was the email from clue number 49 on the lost experience website. it gave us "porter" to get to the rot "forums", where we've gotten subsequent clues.
Hi. I am a student studying Korean at Seoul National University. Working on the translation now, but I can't pick it all out, and their accent is terrible. I can say that the Korean is most likely not Mr. Paik..will contact back as soon as I can figure it out (lets hope 30 minutes or so)
Shadow said...
Mochi's been a while, maybe hes got the email...?
5:27 PM
mochi said...
GODDESS, technically.
And she's translating. She says it's kind of hard to hear, and she actually had to get onto her boss' computer to open it. She's working on it as we speak, so it's a waiting game now.
PATIENCE IS A VIRTUE
5:29 PM
I guess it went as expected. i would rather be blogging. i didnt know youd show up. you seemed pretty loyal to ITE when we spoke last night.
pilferk said...
Paik Heavy Industries is definitely in there. And I think something about a boat or ship...possibly being lost (near Borneo??)? I don't know. I'll leave the translation to someone who is actually fluent in Korean (Ari) and didn't just grow up with Korean friends but hasn't heard a word in almost 15 years. :)
5:30 PM
it's ok dee, we're all muddling along as best we can. :)
i hope you will meghan.
unfortunately, im not at home, so i cant aim right now.
remember on the hansocareers website, all those postings had these strange multiple-language qualifications? he probably speaks swahili, too.
sean said...
I guess it went as expected. i would rather be blogging.
What a difference five years makes, huh? Say that in 2001 and no one would have a clue what you're talking about.
id like to meghan. i look forward to it:)
Okay, I am completely ignoring my kids waiting for the translation. I feel like I should be saying, "Hello, my name is Dee and I am a LostExperience addict."
Good point oxellini.
right-click, forward; right-click, back; repeat, repeat, repeat...
switching back and forth between rachel's blog, and this one... over and over and over and over and over...
ExperimentalFilm said...
but anyway - why does mittlewerk speak korean .. its a strange connection to sun and jin, if we assume that their survival was all planned .
It certainly wouldn't be unusal for a powerful executive within a multinational corporation to speak the languages of his affiliates. We know Paik has had dealings with Hanso, presumably Group and Foundation, for years. And I wouldn't be surprised if he speaks Afrikaanse since they have dealings in South Africa.
Thanks meghan. :)
Oh, man I have to take my son on a playdate. I hope I don't get DTs... BRB...
unfortunately, no. sorry meghan. sorry to disappoint.
i'll see if anyone has a copy of
"Korean For Dummies." But I doubt it.
i've just about worn the paint off my f5 key because of this blog!
Glad to hear it meg. But ill see if i can track down daniel dae kim's phone number. hes from korea.
meh. too improbable. human regression to orangutan would be such a humongous leap in genetic engineering, i really don't think it would be within the scope of even the obviously evil hanso foundation/group. dj dan, as has been pointed out, is a conspiracy nut, so he's not going to be 100% accurate, mainly because of his paranoia. he believes that hanso is capable of anything, but i think we have to try and stay within the bounds of what's scientifically possible when we theorize, even if he doesn't...
Experimentalfilm: I think alvar=joop is crazy! I do think that this might have something to do with the missing organs clue and the organ harvesting stuff in Cape Town. I think that THF experimented on Joop by replacing failing organs, and now Alvar Hanso is the first human to use this
Hopes this kills some time waiting for the translation!
unfortunately, i dont. i was kidding. but even if i wasnt, i wouldnt want to pay the long distance charges to hawaii, would you? lol.
ExperimentalFilm said...
well, while we're waiting.. what do you guys think about the alvar-being-joop theory ?
I think taking that at face value is too far out there. Now it is possible that they are both being subjected to life extension project treatments or that orangoutangs are being used as part of the project, i.e. taking organs, hormones, antibodies, whatever from them and putting them into humans.
mochi said...
READY GO! Here's the translation as best as Ari could make it out to be. She says that Middelwerk speaks very bad Korean, so she's filling in the gaps where she can. ANYHOO. HERE WE GO.
asian: How do you do?
middelwerk: How do you do, Doctor?
asian: Mister Paik says "hello".
middelwerk: I think paid a lot of money to you.
asian:Then can we talk about business?
middelwerk: Yes.
asian: Is the "satellite place" almost ready? "Someone" wants to know if the dish is ready, but if we're talking about business, we can't pay like this.
middelwerk: He have a port. How long will it take?
asian: 3 weeks.
middelwerk: Can you send a note? What can I do to make it 2 weeks?
5:57 PM
meghan, when you put it that way...
its good i dont know how to get the #.
Ari rocks. Tell her thank you for us.
mochi said...
READY GO! Here's the translation as best as Ari could make it out to be. She says that Middelwerk speaks very bad Korean, so she's filling in the gaps where she can. ANYHOO. HERE WE GO.
asian: How do you do?
middelwerk: How do you do, Doctor?
asian: Mister Paik says "hello".
middelwerk: I think paid a lot of money to you.
asian:Then can we talk about business?
middelwerk: Yes.
asian: Is the "satellite place" almost ready? "Someone" wants to know if the dish is ready, but if we're talking about business, we can't pay like this.
middelwerk: He have a port. How long will it take?
asian: 3 weeks.
middelwerk: Can you send a note? What can I do to make it 2 weeks?
5:57 PM
ah, you see? we didnt need daniel dae kim after all! thanks bellaknoti and ari.
Translation - as much as I can figure out. My comments are in brackets. Honestly, I got about 3/4 done, but couldnt figure out all of the words so I talked to one of my roommates. Luckily they are always up playing video games until 3 am every night!
A. Nice to meet you, Insu (Persons name?)
B. Nice to meet you too, Mr. Mittelwerk.
A. Did you say hello to Mr. Paik?
B. He said we forced him to pay a lot of money. (Or..."From the way he talked it seems like we ( you?) forced him to pay a lot of money)
A. Let's talk business, shall we?
B. Of course.
A. I assume you want to hear about our transport readiness. (If we are ready or not).Briefly, we can't unload (load it?) just anywhere.
A. Our port is available. How long will it take?
B. Three weeks minimum.
A. Pass the black pepper. How can I ____ (I can't make out this word. Seems crucial too...)
ah, don't thank me, i'm just the messenger who can copy 'n' paste faster than anyone else. :p
glad to be of help. :) i'm for bed. looking forward to the brilliant illuminations awaiting me this afternoon after all the luminaries of this site have had time to chew on this new information.
later, all.
Looks like I am a few minutes late!
experimentalfilm, I adore house, and hugh... *sigh* my other obsession. Glad to see the translation up, I got back just in time to avoid slogging through 10000 posts to see it!
ok meg. ill keep that in mind. lol.
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To be honest, I have no idea how accurate mine is, but from what my roommate said it seemed to be referring to a port. They said the word Hangu, which means port. He also said that the accents were terrible and it was hard to get all of the words.
Looking above, the word I am missing is most likely "two weeks."
If it is actually a port it could be Busan..one of the largest container ports in the world, or Incheon, next to Seoul. If its anything like what joop is on, keep it far away from Seoul!
Some major differences in the winged eel's and ari's translations. The basics are the same, but the differences stand out. Is it Satelitte or transport readiness? Thanks to both for working so hard and fast on this...
I agree Belly. The transport thing and unloading it makes sense. Although satallites/dishes link up too.
That translation came out at almost exactly the same time as the US was eliminated from the World Cup. And who's still in the hunt?.....South Korea! And they have 4 points, that's one of the numbers! It's all so connected now!
I heard "Unsong Junbi" in the place in question. Unsong means transport, and junbi means to prepare. Rachel Blake was talking about a shipping company before.
Pusher just posted a translation with the end bit on - looks like Mittlewerk wants it delivered in 2 weeks not 3.
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what if the radio tower is a rail gun to fire a satellite into space! it would use massive electromagnetic fields, and we know that satellites can't see what happens at the tower!
I really don't think it is a satelite, but transport and satelite are very similar words...
"Unsong" - transport
"Uiseong" - satelite.
So who knows?
I just don't want to fend off flaming angry joops in 2-3 weeks.
well, as far as altruism, it isn't altrusitic if you sell your defensive services to the highest bidders is it?
So Mittlewerk may know he's being observed now, huh? Should make things even more interesting, if that's possible!
This "delivery service is almost ready" is a key difference. They could be talking about a transport mechanism. Perhaps a method of spreading disease, moving illicit cargo secretly, putting things into orbit, almost anything really.
Are delivery service and transport very close in Korean?
Another huge difference! I certainly hope Rachel comes out to clarify this soon. The differences create at least three paths off this clue. My bet is, she'll post sometime this afternoon that she has located a translator and give the official, in-game translation.
Ok, I want to get this out so I can see what other people make of today's clue. As in exams, I will state my assumptions so you know where I am coming from.
Assume the ITE translation given by matt the pale above is canon, as it comes from the offical ABC blog.
We know Mittlewerk has ordered a ship from Paik Heavy Industries. We know this ship cost a lot of money and cannot be docked at just any port. We know Paik's intended delivery date is in three weeks, but Mittlewerk wants this pushed up by one week.
I assume they are talking about a ship in the nautical sense because of the use of the term dock and Mittlewerks recent research into shipping lanes at Allied Copenhagen Marine Merchants, a Hanso Group company. Had they been talking about a space ship, I don't believe it would have been necessary to point out that it can't dock "just anywhere." Also, I don't think they would have throw in "with all the modifications" because this implies that Mittlewerk ordered something fairly standard but with unusual modifications making it either illegal or cutting-edge. Space ships built for non governmental entities are certainly not fairly standard yet, even after someone won the Ansari X-Prize.
Ok, so Mittlework is getting a modified ship built, and this ship cannot dock just anywhere. The key questions are:
1)What are the modifications?
2)What do these modifications do?
3)Why can't this ship dock just anywhere?
4)Where is Mittlewerk's dock?
5)What does Mittlewerk need this ship in two weeks for?
I believe answering these questions will be one of the main storylines of act two of the game. What happens when the ship gets to Mittlewerk's dock? Act three ladies and gentlemen.
the greatest restrictions for vessels is depth of the channel/port. some vessels have very large drafts and so need a deepwater port (for instance VLCC - very large crude carriers have a 60' draft) only a very few ports - most notibaly Rotterdam can handle deep draft vessels
btw - I am a maritime lawyer and went to a maritime academy for my undergraduate. Ships and the shipping industry i know.
maybe they need a vessel with equipment that would be able to detect and escape the island's pull
my thoughts too Idaho. non-compass navigation, that is something without a magnet or metal parts with be celestial navigation.
I'm just glad that Ari's misunderstanding of "satellite/transport" got cleared up. She kept telling me how she wasn't sure what the word was, but guessed it was satellite, since I mentioned that dishes and radio antennae are important to the island.
would be good if it was a philly experiemnt one you know invisable :D tho maybe looking into docking regulations for ships might help because i dont think its just in that area they cant dock it, its all docks (so military or something else).
looking for shipping lanes from past to future will properly lead mettelwerk to whats changed/where magnus might have sailed with black rock maybe
I'm just glad that Ari's misunderstanding of "satellite/transport" got cleared up. She kept telling me how she wasn't sure what the word was, but guessed it was satellite, since I mentioned that dishes and radio antennae are important to the island.
hm: yes.
that's been there forever... (Why don't people read the comments or lurk more?)
Fair enough. There are plenty of other concerns than physical size though. Appearance (i.e. you wouldn't dock a stealth ship like the Sea Shadow http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Shadow at "just any dock"), propulsion (i.e. a vessel utilizing nuclear propulsion cannot dock anywhere it pleases) or the fact that a new technology which is not easily hidden (i.e. You would not dock the USS Eldridge with it's supposed magnetic field generators in New York Harbor).
Now that's not to say that this might not be a deep draft vessel. Imagine a vessel built to interact with the underwater portion of the radio tower mentioned by DJ Dan. Build the upper decks to look like any container vessel, but the decks below waterline are vast and include swimming docks, grasping arms, docking rings, all the bells and whistles.
This could go a LOT of ways from here!
Oooh, could Pirates of the Caribbean tie in? It's Disney/ABC!
Just kidding......sort of.
Pirate's tie in? What nonsense do you speak of, idaho girl?
Korea is one of the world's largest shipbuilding nations
It has got to have the most advanced electronics on it though for searching, sonar, radar, infrared, etc etc...
this may or may not tie in but was looking at sea laws when i saw something here that mentioned "The Copenhagen Convention of 1857"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_waters
also The Antarctic Treaty looks interesting
noble: But so are the scandanvaian countries, Norway, Sweden. If you are an enormous corporation with limitless funds to spend on an expensive vessel and you are based in Denmark, why build the ship in Korea? Just because it is closer to the region you'll be operating in? Or because you ahve a business partner there who will keep anything quiet as long as the check clears? Could that "hole" in the Korean satellite image conceal what they are building?
thrasher: but having those electronics would not prevent it from docking in "just any" harbor.
No but would the electronics send off an electromagentic signature? If they are looking for electromagnetic anomolies, like the island they are going to have to limit what is on the ship or shield it some how...the docking part has to do with it's size I am sure...or it's legality...
I thought the reason to build in Korea in this case was self-explanatory, that is Paik Industries is based out of there. I was just putting in a interesting note that Korea is real-world one of the largest shipbuilders is all.
as far as size, I was just going with one of the simplest explanations when I mentioned draft restrictions. When you don't know what is going on it is sometimes easiest to start with the simplest explanation to reach a solution. It could be that the vessel is just so specialized and peculiar looking that its appearance at a port would draw unwanted attention, so they need a secure port.
then again, Hanso seems to like to do things on a GRAND scale - the Dharma initiative needed an entire island.... that satelite/radio antena thing in one of P's clues was huge too.
it is all speculation and congecture at this point anyway.
shakey: Yes, using electromagnetism for cloaking would be useless, because you would just look for magnetic anomalies. The US Navy has been using this for years to pick up submarines by looking for large ferromagnetic objects. Electromagnetic fields would set these detectors off thousands of miles away. Building a vessel with little susceptibility to electromagnetic interference is viable, but it would I do not believe it would require modifications to the extent that this ship would draw attention. I just don't think there are enough facts given yet to start tracing where this plotline is going.
We know for a fact the Paik industries is in game, but which site, maybe we need to go looking on that site now, perhaps they are just as corrupt as THF and Rachel or P will hack there...just a thought...and Nobellawyer, that was what I was aiming at, the ship is so outlandish in appearance or has huge guns mounted on it that it would attract attention at certain ports...
Possibly, Mittlewerk is only interested in the "shipping lanes" the Black Rock used?
Perhaps there was valuable cargo that may have been thrown overboard, or they are retracing steps of the black rock for some other reason altogether, remember they ran DHARMA and they should have known where the island is/was and who dropped the food to the them...
Perhaps those original shipping lanes contained something the Black Rock never anticipated.
I think that's it, idaho girl. We can't have a ship from THF going to the island and locating the Black Rock. Not yet, anyway. I don't think this has anything to do with Mittlewerk looking for the Black Rock.
good point - may not be going to the island, that was an assumption. Could very well be incorrect.
Anything new yet?
doesn't look like it thrasher. Since Rachel mentioned about getting answers tomorrow I am guessing there wont' be any more clues/updates today.
I'm trying to find the pic from the June 13 clue of the satellite image that has been obscured by the offshore project. Can't find it on lostpedia or this blog and of course thf is still closed. Anyone know where I can get that?
thanks matt
I have a question, and I'm fairly sure of the answer, but I don't want to assume because you know what that does...
I've been following the comments on Rachel's #4 post and the comments on this page all day and I flipped over to ITE and saw the speaker's Weekly roundup. Now, I've seen the picture of the letter that he postes but where did the 2 pics come from of the man's chest and the "running man"?
Were they images from the newest DHARMA video? I looked at the flickr files but I don't remember seeing those 2.
I hate having to read the ITE comments, they're brutal. Can someone refresh my memory if need be?
I hope we are not done for the day.
That stinks!!
I think those pics are from the last Dharma psych film -
Christian, I noticed that everyone at Rachel's blog is focusing on what cargo is on the ship and how big the ship must be. What if the ship itself is the big secret?
thanks noblelawyer I'll have to go through the screen shots again
Is anyone else paying attention to the big "48 hours" clue? If we were right them soemthing really big should be happening today.
Unless 48 hours doesn't mean 48 literal hours.
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Also, continuity for Lost with the 18-months 2-months thing could be related to Desmond's attempt to escape the island. He claims that he sailed one direction, and just lead him in circles. Maybe he's right -- they are trapped in a "snowglobe", not of space but also fo time.
But I'd doubt that, because that would change LOST into a Sci-Fi.
I think that 48hours, days, is an important time frame, but not sure how
layla - it's probably your cookies. Once you log onto the messaeg boards, whenever you go to the main site you're redirected directly there. (IIRC it'll do that until you close your browser)
I get the dog people page with I type in retrieversoftruth
I always have to type in porter to get the forum page
Christian - we're still not sure if the special dock is required because of the ship's size. There could be other factors too.
mindy - hm, I've never seen that before. Pretty neat. What's the word on this, folks? Is it new?
mindy where did you find that? I mean HOW did you find it
Christian -
I was referring to oxillini's post...
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oxillini said...
Fair enough. There are plenty of other concerns than physical size though. Appearance (i.e. you wouldn't dock a stealth ship like the Sea Shadow http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Shadow at "just any dock"), propulsion (i.e. a vessel utilizing nuclear propulsion cannot dock anywhere it pleases) or the fact that a new technology which is not easily hidden (i.e. You would not dock the USS Eldridge with it's supposed magnetic field generators in New York Harbor).
Now that's not to say that this might not be a deep draft vessel. Imagine a vessel built to interact with the underwater portion of the radio tower mentioned by DJ Dan. Build the upper decks to look like any container vessel, but the decks below waterline are vast and include swimming docks, grasping arms, docking rings, all the bells and whistles.
This could go a LOT of ways from here!
ah, so just saw it was updated. Cool. Thanks for the heads up!
hm, odd..."trash" doesn't show up in the normal directory site that we usually view: http://www.letyourcompassguideyou.com/usr/
Maybe we weren't supposed to find this?
mst, when I went to letyourcompassguideyou.com I then clicked on 108, I put in Y I was a believer and it then took me to the directory, and trash was there. looks like it was just added.
I did this after go direclty to the link provided by Mindy. I wanted to see if I could get to going through the main site again
OpenersHep is an anagram of persephone.. is So rachel B is really persephone?!?!
How did you find that? Does this have to do with the jeep contract?
noble - yeah, you're right :) I cleared my cache, and there it was. Updated 22-June-2006 4:47. Not sure what time zone though.
openershep, huh
persehone's back!
It's new, it has today's date as "last modified" it was easily recognizable as new after I did what noblelawyer said and went through the whole thing again.
ox - wow, I can't believe how I didn't notice that before. It's probably the easiest anagram ever.
So, should we be searching for a missing organs file?
simply awesome, persephone=rachel is confirmed, isn't it? could rachel use persephone's account? rachel b can hack hanso but can't turn off anonymous comments or find someplace safe to put her videos?
http://www.letyourcompassguideyou.com/admin/my_docs/missing_organs.zip
comes up with a user/pass prompt..is it there maybe?
mstk: thanks, but tiltawhirlgirl beat me to it!
I want the missing organs zip file!!!
I hope it gets found soon!!!
It would have to be eastern time zone since Mindy had her post on at 04:26:36 PM and the file changed at 4:47 pm, and it is now just 5:47 pm in the East...just a guess..
Yeah. Wow, when I was reading it, and the Persephone said "my name is rachel b.", it was like a peal of thunder rocked the sky. Couldn't have hoped for a more dramatic moment.
So yeah. Anyone have any ideas for the admin root? And are you sure it's the right file? maybe all filse from the folder /admin are protected, no matter what the filename.
Jfray - Awesome stuff, what is the log on and password for this?
we haven't used missing organs yet have we?
has anyone tried anagramming wtkfleet35? I know it seems really obvious because the other username is an anagram, but it's worth a shot.
nevermind, that was probably a foreshadowing of the file name.
so, do we know who william is?
doesn't anagram to anything directly. probably referring to the truck fleet manager position.
Ok, it's william T Kilpatrick, the guy from the jeep contracts on Peter Thompson's mail log
it's like christmas morning and our present is wrapped real tight!
great job tilt!
How did you find that zip file, anyway? Unless you have a direct link, I don't think it'd be it.
Even http://www.letyourcompassguideyou.com/admin/potato/ is password-protected.
The contract was rescinded on the 10th of March, after his contacts with Persephone/Rachel... WHERE is the missing organs doc? What does it say?!
What's the password for the .zip file?
Okay, can everyone please post their sources before posting new info? I want to know if you just remembered it and it popped out of your head, or if you read it from somewhere (TLE/RB's blog).
Aha. Funny I was just looking into that TheJeepChannel guys video and wondering if we'd get a new lead. So cool. Rachel either is P or else is being framed as P (why would anyone do that though?). I'm going to assume the former.
So this is the "more later" WTK promised? Wonder if the clue is in his video. The video suggested he was the one that sabotaged DJDans video to call him a sell out. That also makes sense as that was the first podcast listed on the Compas site and of course that is sponsored by Jeep. So what did P tell him and why did it make him think DJDan was involved? He changed his mind recently, but this is dated from before he sabotaged that podcast.
Interesting. I'm going to try anything DjDan related and anythign mentioned in the video
Thanks oxillini... this is getting so awesome!!
yea, mstk is right.
why would it be hosted on that site?
we might not have access to it.
Another thing, if this ties into what Rach was looking at today. They are transporting something in Jeeps to some kind of modified ship to take elsewhere. But the ship itself must be obviously modified if they can't just dock anywhere. So what could be transported in Jeeps but require serious modifying to transport in a ship?
I'm thinking kinda nuclear.
Are you referring to what I'm posting mstk? You can read the docs from Clue #34 on TLEC. The info on William T Kilpatrick and the jeep contracts is on the Peter Thompson page under mail.
tilta - yeah, that's what ui was talking about. sorry if I was sounding accusational. But I jsut want to make sure we have the right facts.
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I was also talking about the link to the missing organs zip. How did they find it? You could just enter any URL into the admin folder, and you'd get taht same password prompt.
Ack, sorry. I'm biting my tongue. They got the URL frmo teh chat log file, which directy states \admin\my_docs\missing_organs.zip.
But how do we know that that applies to LYCGY?
We can't just say "it's password protected so it has to be it"< beucase everything on /admin is PP'd.
Also, everyone try adding OpenersHep and wtkFleet35 to their AIM buddy list. Maybe one of them might pop online.
Oh, no mstk, I didn't take it that way it just wasn't directed at any person in particular so I was checking.
i tried the file name a bunch of different ways and came up with what's above also by copying and pasting the missing organs file name onto letyourcompassguideyou.com
It sure is interesting that 4 days after this conversation wit Rachel and William, the Jeep contract with THF is rescinded!
tilta - ah. So we're not sure it's the right one, but it's our best bet right now.
Dagnabit, I have to leave now. I won't be on until tomorrow norming and my boss/dad will be here so it won't be so easy to sneak in here. I'm sure you'll figure it out as soon as I hop into my car in five minutes. Best of luck, happy hunting! Can't wait to see what else you unearth!
Glad you asked about IRC Pharma. I wondered if I was the only one. Guess it is down.
The letter from William Patrick that rescinds the Jeep contract has a location blacked out. Probably Africa. Africa = Cape Town. Cape Town=Harvesting Organs=MISSING ORGANS.
Hey, guys, this is interesting.
The conversations are from wtkFleet's log, not persephone's. So this didn't come fom Persephone's computer, or her own log. It came from William's computer.
So there are two possibilities:
1) William uploaded it to LYCGY himself, and then trashed it
or
2) Persephone hacked onto Will's computer, stole his log, and uploaded it herself.
#2 seems very unlikely, beucase Persephone probably has her own log.
Therefore it only makes sense that William himself uploaded this conversation and trashed it.
Why, though?
it's a movie reference from fatal attraction.. now i'm going
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