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Clue #61 - Rachel Blake Copenhagen Post 05 & RoT Update

Rachel Blake Update:
Rachel posted again. And she linked us to a new website where she apparently has hidden clues to another video. Head over to 43things.com and go to Rachel's List of 43 Things. You'll notice that goals 4 8 15 16 23 and 42 all contain just one word: truth, safe, reckon, copenhagen, alvar, sumo. It also stands out that goal 43 is "Have a refreshing beverage".

This led us to sublymonal.com, where we entered "truth safe reckon copenhagen alvar sumo" into the login box. This action opens up a second login box. Remembering Rachel's blog conversation with Mel0drama (Post 01), Rachel said: "Me: Cool. Gotta go. I've got 43 things to do to stop their 'better tomorrow'"

Entering "better tomorrow" in the new sublymonal login box takes us to http://www.sublymonal.com/_hidden/ . Look in folder 48 (48 hours reference from ROT Board) for the video. (also on YOUTUBE). Also in folder 48, we find MelODrama's first reveal about Dr. Hackett, a confidential memo.








Linmoo found Mittlewerk's island in google earth. The pictures are of islands in Lake Superior in Ontario, Canada near Thunder Bay. The islands in the picture with names are Edward Island, St. Ignace Island, Simpson Island, and Wilson Island.

Thanks to Stash, Justin, & arkay for emailing. Thanks to Richard for posting in the comments. This was apparently solved by a crew in an unfiction chatroom.

Retrievers of Truth Update:
There is more chat going on in the Retrievers of Truth Message Board.

Thanks to Chris, Bob, MSTK, Gary, Lainie, and Vijay for emailing first!

736 Comments:

Blogger leolio said...

first?

6/23/2006 04:48:00 PM  
Blogger MSTK said...

first?! :(

6/23/2006 04:48:00 PM  
Blogger MSTK said...

YAY!

Now if anyone is too lazy to sign up for an account, BugMeNot has a list of pre-made accounts and logons here

http://www.bugmenot.com/view/www.43things.com

6/23/2006 04:49:00 PM  
Blogger devondude said...

not quite but nearly. So where do we go from here?

6/23/2006 04:49:00 PM  
Blogger MSTK said...

..oops. Guess I didn't scroll up to see leolio's post. serves me right for switching between this, ITE, Rachel's blog, and mIRC.

6/23/2006 04:50:00 PM  
Blogger Pwyll said...

lol me too! But i got like 20 pages opened on firefox XD

6/23/2006 04:53:00 PM  
Blogger Dan23X said...

I'm in the top 10! Yay!

6/23/2006 04:53:00 PM  
Blogger Chixylix said...

What do we do once we've clicked on the picture of rachel in the wig??

6/23/2006 04:54:00 PM  
Blogger WichitaWrangler said...

So did we find this video yet?

6/23/2006 04:54:00 PM  
Blogger ski081 said...

What do we do after we've added the item to our list? I can't find the video.

6/23/2006 04:55:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

What a way to end the week!!!

Peace & Namaste

6/23/2006 04:56:00 PM  
Blogger MSTK said...

...yeah. I didn't find it either.

But at least there's a new blog.

Hopefully it's not the only thing of the day.

6/23/2006 04:57:00 PM  
Blogger devondude said...

no luck on finding that vid yet, but at least we have something new to work on. I felt that last topic was going to break a thousand!

6/23/2006 04:57:00 PM  
Blogger WichitaWrangler said...

I've registered a name...clicked on Rblake's profiles...on everything to do with Australlia and Copenhagen...ugh...

6/23/2006 05:00:00 PM  
Blogger TiltaWhirlGirl said...

I've never used 43things.com before, I'm not familiar with it. Do they even have videos on that site or are we looking for a hidden link or message to find the video elsewhere?

6/23/2006 05:01:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Probably have to get a certain number of people doing it to have the video..love the wig, I like blondes better anyway!!

Peace & Namaste

6/23/2006 05:02:00 PM  
Blogger Lainie said...

New ROT Thread...

While they're down, we're up to no good - 06/23/06
DSLerator
3:43pm Ummm...surprise, surprise. The famed foundation's site is off the air.
Fiberoptician
3:46pm So it seems.
iobiSeeingYou
3:48pm What, you miss it already? Get your own monkey.
Fiberoptician
3:49pm It's an ape. Monkey's have tails. Apes... no tails.
DSLerator
3:52pm Betcha that ape's got a tale. And a gill or two.
BroadBandBeatnik
3:54pm I take that as a good sign. Must be a glitch in the system... da da, da da, glitch looks like a lady! LOL.
DSLerator
3:56pm Uh... Maybe you wanna offer them a helping hand? A bonus DSL package for being such good despots? I kid, I kid.
Fiberoptician
4:00pm Shill to the undeserving on your own time.
BroadBandBeatnik
4:02pm You better be kidding. Don't make me come over to your cubicle with a Broadband Beatdown.
iobiSeeingYou
4:04pm Chill Beatnik. DSL is trying to be funny. Anyway this revolution is accelerating, don't you think?
DSLerator
4:06pm I don't know what you mean.
iobiSeeingYou
4:08pm Don't play modest; I'm proud of your efforts.
Fiberoptician
4:10pm What'd you do now?
DSLerator
4:16pm I've just been talking to a few of my peeps.
BroadBandBeatnik
4:22pm I still say you are so gonna get in trouble....Who is screening these folks??? How can you be sure they are who they seem?
Fiberoptician
4:25pm You are just jealous 'cause you don't have IM.
iobiSeeingYou
4:28pm And you are just too scared to lift your head out of the sand.
Fiberoptician
4:32pm PFT. I'm a busy man. And not the kind that likes to risk my hide.
DSLerator
4:33pm Fiber, if I didn't know you, I'd think you were switching teams.
Fiberoptician
4:37pm You're questioning MY loyalty? Who else is gonna rescue you from Hanso's clutches? I prefer to lay low and work incognito.
DSLerator
4:40pm I have a feeling things will only get weirder and funner from now on....
iobiSeeingYou
4:43pm Is "funner" a word?

6/23/2006 05:02:00 PM  
Blogger MSTK said...

wow. things are getting fast up again! YAY!

By the way, does nyone find it funny that when you click on the Rachel picture, the advertisements on the frar right say "Find Hidden Videos!"

6/23/2006 05:03:00 PM  
Blogger leolio said...

Hope we'll find this video before monday :p

Are we suppose to look at her glass reflect?

Ps : Rach is cute

6/23/2006 05:03:00 PM  
Blogger Just Your Ordinary Kid...psh yeah right... said...

wierd clue...strange

6/23/2006 05:06:00 PM  
Blogger MSTK said...

It seems like teh RoTters just found out that the Hanso site went down? They're about a week late.

But then again, they always ahve been late.

6/23/2006 05:08:00 PM  
Blogger Joker_927 said...

As far as I know this site doesn't even support videos!

PS Who is the wierd Homer Simpson looking guy that has responded to "Find Rachel Blakes hidden video"

and how do you know that the "Zeitgeist" was the correct one?

tons of people added "Rachel Blake" things as soon as her blog came up.

6/23/2006 05:11:00 PM  
Blogger Richard said...

so, it looks like the 43 things site will lead us somewhere else to the actual video.
i'm working on the bug me not passwords...

6/23/2006 05:11:00 PM  
Blogger jayzed said...

If you look at rachel blake's (screenname rblake - just search for it) 43 things there are a couple that could have something

6/23/2006 05:15:00 PM  
Blogger Richard said...

yea, she's got a list of stuff to do.
what are we supposed to find?
hmmmmmmmmmmm...

6/23/2006 05:17:00 PM  
Blogger Richard said...

visit friend in scotland
open a swiss bank account

witty or actual?

6/23/2006 05:19:00 PM  
Blogger devondude said...

I don't believe this. i wait all day for something then, just as I am about to go to bed (it's 2315 here) two new clues....*yawns falls asleep on keyboardddddddddddddddddd* guesss i'll have to catch up on all of your hard work in the am!

6/23/2006 05:19:00 PM  
Blogger Administrator said...

oker 927, and how do you know that the "Zeitgeist" was the correct one?

sorry about our post. Don't think Zeitgeist matters. It was just what we tried first and it brought up her pic. It seems inconsequential though.

6/23/2006 05:21:00 PM  
Blogger MSTK said...

joker - um, actually, taht was me. I posted that.

6/23/2006 05:21:00 PM  
Blogger Dennis said...

If you type "Stop Hanso" into the search box on 43things, there is an Advertisment on the right for HansoCareers.com.

I looked around a bit but didn't see anything new. That would be taking a gamble for Rachel to post the video there...

6/23/2006 05:24:00 PM  
Blogger Richard said...

yea i dont think that zeitgeist means anything
someone uploaded the picture and that's why it was temporarily on that page...

6/23/2006 05:25:00 PM  
Blogger Malbogio said...

The 'find rachel blake's hidden video' link seems to have been created by one of us. I'm more interested in Alvar (http://www.43things.com/things/view/794017) as it was made by Rachel Blake, http://www.43things.com/person/RachelBlake, who currently is listed by the site as nonexistance, even though the profile name is listed as taken when I try creating under the name to test it.

6/23/2006 05:26:00 PM  
Blogger Joker_927 said...

rblake's list just makes too much sense

"Eat outdoors at a Parisian cafe"

The picture's on Rachel's site of Mittlewerk were outside of French restaurants. Remember the translation: "no hawking"

6/23/2006 05:27:00 PM  
Blogger jayzed said...

dennis...you hay have something...in the source of hansocareers.com there is a tag - !-- cng | rcw | ptd -->
Does anyone know what this is? Is it a normal thing?

6/23/2006 05:29:00 PM  
Blogger Joker_927 said...

In case u haven't found it, Mel0drama has a 43 things account

6/23/2006 05:33:00 PM  
Blogger Administrator said...

I agree. Don't think we need to get stuck on the "find Rachel Blake's video" thing...

Probably need to be looking for clues in Rachel's account or maybe Mel's

6/23/2006 05:38:00 PM  
Blogger Joker_927 said...

SO I got to hansocareers.com and search for "gamble" and an "Organ Courier" job comes up with wierd colored letters.

Is this from a previous clue?

6/23/2006 05:38:00 PM  
Blogger punkprep3 said...

i zoomed in on her glasses lens and i saw 2 people in it? did you see it? her left lens, our right.
idk

6/23/2006 05:38:00 PM  
Blogger dbartho said...

hey sit on a monkey. you claim to have seen the video. hook a brotha up.

6/23/2006 05:39:00 PM  
Blogger punkprep3 said...

no its in her picture on 43 things.com the one of Rachel in a wig?

6/23/2006 05:40:00 PM  
Blogger Administrator said...

don't think melodrama.43people.com is a clue.
joker, you find something different.

6/23/2006 05:41:00 PM  
Blogger Richard said...

Just see her things...

4-truth
8-Safe
15-Reckon
16-Copenhagen
23-Alvar
42-sumo

6/23/2006 05:42:00 PM  
Blogger Dennis said...

Joker_927

The "grey" letters are from Clue #41

6/23/2006 05:43:00 PM  
Blogger Richard said...

Just see her things...

4-truth
8-Safe
15-Reckon
16-Copenhagen
23-Alvar
42-sumo

anagram the first letter of these words, is it pointing to a RSS feed?
tac RSS

Cat RSS

act RSS?

6/23/2006 05:46:00 PM  
Blogger Richard said...

fom insidetheexperience website....

VIDEO FOUND

The video has been found through a great joint effort in the unfiction.com chat room:

Following Rachel's link to 43things.com, we quickly found a user named RBlake, who had 43 goals:

http://www.43things.com/person/RBlake

It was noticed that goals 4 8 15 16 23 and 42 all contain just one word:

truth safe reckon copenhagen alvar sumo

Also, goal 43 is "Have a refreshing beverage"

This led us to sublymonal.com, where we entered "truth safe reckon copenhagen alvar sumo"

This silenced sublymonal and opened up a second login box

DanteIL noticed that at the end of her blog conversation with Mel0drama, Rachel said: "Me: Cool. Gotta go. I've got 43 things to do to stop their "better tomorrow""

Entering "better tomorrow" takes us to

http://www.sublymonal.com/_hidden/

Look in folder 48 for the video

6/23/2006 05:47:00 PM  
Blogger Lainie said...

There has to be something with Post 01, because at the end, she mentions having "43 things to do". Maybe we need to read thru that again.

~Lainie

6/23/2006 05:48:00 PM  
Blogger Joker_927 said...

damn. the last golden ticket has been found

6/23/2006 05:49:00 PM  
Blogger MSTK said...

Yup, someoen found it.

Let's go watch it together, shall we? wonder what clues it may unlock...

6/23/2006 05:50:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

I cant believe i missed all this stuff. i was around all morning and nothing. i go out for a few hours and i miss all the action. story of my life.

oh, and thanks richard.

6/23/2006 05:54:00 PM  
Blogger Joker_927 said...

Im going back and I cant find the part where she says "43 things" I know it doesnt really matter, but even searching her blog page returns nothing. Where is it?

6/23/2006 05:55:00 PM  
Blogger Idaho Girl said...

Anyone want to put it in some other format? I can't download Quicktime on my work PC.

:/

6/23/2006 05:57:00 PM  
Blogger Richard said...

i was on my way... till i saw it on the speakers blog...
DOH

6/23/2006 05:57:00 PM  
Blogger Lainie said...

Joker,
At the end of her transcript with Melodrama, it says:

"Mel0Drama: ... Deal.

Me: Cool. Gotta go. I've got 43 things to do to stop their "better tomorrow""

~Lainie

6/23/2006 05:58:00 PM  
Blogger BadgerKyle said...

first time poster . . long time lurker . . . has anyone else been looking at the LYCGU again? I know someone mentioned it above, but there are TONS of files now that are located there . . you can see McIntyre's, OWelles, and Thompson . . anyone make anything of the files yet?

6/23/2006 06:01:00 PM  
Blogger Matt the Pale said...

Looks like my hunch was right.

I bet they outfitted a ship with an electromagnetic weapon to retrace the last route of the Black Rock. In order to find the island, the electromagnetic weapon on the ship will be used to temporarily/permenantly bring down a field.

6/23/2006 06:01:00 PM  
Blogger CHRISTINASRACK said...

I wish my hair was as long and luxurious as Mittlework's.......

6/23/2006 06:02:00 PM  
Blogger Richard said...

it certainly does look like there's someone in the room with her from the reflection in her glasses.
also, ol' Tom has a limp, a ridiculous pony tail, and a bodyguard.

6/23/2006 06:04:00 PM  
Blogger MSTK said...

idaho girl - it'll probably come up in YouTube pretty soon.

Anyway, so Rachel found a map. I'm pretty sure it's a map of the Lost island. Remember that Lake that Kate & Sawyer found in the First Season, which had the piece of the fuselage and guns + the toy plane? I think it's that big one in the center.

6/23/2006 06:04:00 PM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

Soo it looks like we got to figure out where that island is located then post/email rachel about it so she can follow them to the island.... so start getting pictures of that island up so we can figure out what island it is!


P.S. May the force be with you (classic!)

6/23/2006 06:04:00 PM  
Blogger Richard said...

and, i guess the big question is: 'is that THE island?'

6/23/2006 06:05:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Well I havent read the comments. I got some catching up to do. But (I am sure it has been mentioned) the latest ROT message seems to indicate proof to me that DSelerator and iobiSeeingYou are indeed talking to us people (peeps) through AIM.
I will catch up with all this tomorrow. Sorry if what I mentioned has been well publicised or proven wrong.
Goddnight.

6/23/2006 06:08:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

That was an interesting video.

6/23/2006 06:09:00 PM  
Blogger roomforhuman said...

It would be awesome if someone could post the video so that it will open into Windows Media Player.

Anyone?

6/23/2006 06:10:00 PM  
Blogger Idaho Girl said...

I was able to read the letter. I guess that will make more sense once I have seen the video?

:(

*kicks rocks*

6/23/2006 06:10:00 PM  
Blogger MEGS:) said...

OMG! I just got here. The video is taking forever to load!!! Is it good?

6/23/2006 06:10:00 PM  
Blogger MSTK said...

I think it's good.

We get to meet Mittelwerk himself.

and we get a map of (what i believe is) THE island.

6/23/2006 06:11:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

Dont worry megs, it will be worth the loading time. trust me.

6/23/2006 06:12:00 PM  
Blogger roomforhuman said...

Wouldn't know meghan. Cant watch it from work.

6/23/2006 06:12:00 PM  
Blogger Administrator said...

matt the pale,
I agree.

Ship: Electromagnetically Armed (Philadelphia Experiment Related?)
Island: Dharma Related

Question:
Anybody else notice Mittlewerk's limp? Any ideas? Did I miss something in his bio?

6/23/2006 06:12:00 PM  
Blogger leolio said...

But why the date of the video is 06 jun 2006?

6/23/2006 06:13:00 PM  
Blogger MEGS:) said...

I hate quicktime. It's only half way loading.

Hi again sean.

6/23/2006 06:13:00 PM  
Blogger Richard said...

he actually sounds like a nice guy. initially anyway...
WHAT IS SHE READING right before she runs into him?
It looks like a tourguide traveler's book or something.

6/23/2006 06:13:00 PM  
Blogger Administrator said...

I'll rip and convert the video. It'll take me a sec. Send email if someone else beats me to it.

6/23/2006 06:14:00 PM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

she's pretending to be a tourists ....so she's reading a tour book

p.s. anyone have an uploaded photo of that maps yet?

6/23/2006 06:15:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

Dont worry meg. you can probably still start watching it. it will be done loading by the time you get to where it is now.

6/23/2006 06:15:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

What kind of "executive" has a pony tail that long?

6/23/2006 06:16:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Any idea what "Project Sumo" is?

6/23/2006 06:16:00 PM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

doesn't mittlework look like he is native american or at least part native american?

6/23/2006 06:17:00 PM  
Blogger Administrator said...

maven,
a Rock n Roll executive!
:)

6/23/2006 06:17:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

He looks like a hippy.
but it was interesting actually seeing mittelwerk in action.

6/23/2006 06:17:00 PM  
Blogger MSTK said...

All I can sayt is --

I hope we're not done for the day.

6/23/2006 06:18:00 PM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

i think rachel could take him on if they had gotten into a fistfight... hahaha just kidding.

Is anyone else going to take rachel serious and try to locate this island from the map on our real world maps?

6/23/2006 06:19:00 PM  
Blogger Mark Treitel said...

INTERESTING FIND!
Okay, I know that they found the video, but something odd on 43things.com re: Rachel Blacke's picture.

1) On http://www.43things.com/person/RBlake
Click RBlake photo.

2) This brings you to
http://www.43things.com/profile_images/view/RBlake

The title
With the title
RBlake > Gallery

CLick this photo.


3) This brings you to
http://www.43things.com/people/image/192952?gallery=1

With the title
MoShaw>Gallery>big

click MoShaw

4) This brings you to
http://www.43things.com/person/MoShaw

No I don't now who Moshaw is...

Or if this means anything..
but perhaps Moshaw put the
picture and video together...

who knows..

but check it out.

6/23/2006 06:20:00 PM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

pilferk posted these on the rachel site:

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/pilferk/island6.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/pilferk/Island5.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/pilferk/Island4.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/pilferk/Island3.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/pilferk/Island2.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/pilferk/Island1.jpg

6/23/2006 06:20:00 PM  
Blogger MSTK said...

Josh from ITE posted screenshots --

http://www.anomymage.com/images/lost/lostisland1.jpg
http://www.anomymage.com/images/lost/lostisland2.jpg

6/23/2006 06:21:00 PM  
Blogger MSTK said...

This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

6/23/2006 06:21:00 PM  
Blogger MEGS:) said...

Wow. That was probably the best video yet.

6/23/2006 06:23:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

See meg? wasnt it worth the wait time?
and ive never seen a ponytail that long. even on a girl.

6/23/2006 06:24:00 PM  
Blogger Administrator said...

Video loading on YouTube.
Meghan:) - agreed. best yet.

6/23/2006 06:24:00 PM  
Blogger Bad Karma said...

This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

6/23/2006 06:25:00 PM  
Blogger Administrator said...

tapdawg, mstk
you know how to hyperlink? I can show you. It's better for everybody.

6/23/2006 06:25:00 PM  
Blogger MEGS:) said...

I know. But according to those maps, that would mean there is a lake somewhere on the island.

6/23/2006 06:26:00 PM  
Blogger Idaho Girl said...

YAY! I love Administrators!


;)

6/23/2006 06:26:00 PM  
Blogger MEGS:) said...

Thanks, admin:).

6/23/2006 06:26:00 PM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

please teach me... it'd be very happy to learn

6/23/2006 06:27:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

meg, i am trying to im you but its not working. are you on the same computer.

6/23/2006 06:28:00 PM  
Blogger MSTK said...

I know how to hyperling. But I like to capture the raw essense of the moment by posting copying and pasting the quotes verbatim, to illustrate the conjunctiveness of the...


Yeah, i'm sorry. Just too lazy =/

6/23/2006 06:29:00 PM  
Blogger MEGS:) said...

O. Sorry Sean. I'll IM you. I'm on a different account.

6/23/2006 06:29:00 PM  
Blogger Administrator said...

For everyone...To hyperlink:

Subsituting all
( for <
and all
) for >

(a href="http://www.insidetheexperience.com")Inside the Experience(/a)

You get:
Inside the Experience

Make sense?

6/23/2006 06:29:00 PM  
Blogger MEGS:) said...

And, for the record, it's I haven't yet figured out how to copy and paste on macs. is it possible?

6/23/2006 06:30:00 PM  
Blogger MSTK said...

I already knew how. I have a site of sorts.

Next time, though. I promise.

6/23/2006 06:30:00 PM  
Blogger Kate Wonder said...

Did anyone else hear the weird whispery noises at random parts throughout the video? Or am I hallucinating again?

Good vid. I liked it when she was yelling at Tom. He was just stunned.

Yay! Lost island!

6/23/2006 06:30:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

What about the other document found in File 48? The "Doubleblind Data" re Project Sumo? Is it related?

6/23/2006 06:30:00 PM  
Blogger Administrator said...

Idaho Girl...the heroic 108, 4 hour adventurer!

I tell stories about you to my friends. You're a legend!

6/23/2006 06:30:00 PM  
Blogger MSTK said...

Meghan - substitute "CTRL+C" for the little squiggly line box thing + C, and CTRL+V for little squiggly line box thing + V.

6/23/2006 06:31:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

im sure its possible meg. i dont work with macs that often.

6/23/2006 06:32:00 PM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

6/23/2006 06:33:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

ah see. problem solved.

6/23/2006 06:33:00 PM  
Blogger MEGS:) said...

Thanks MSTK.

6/23/2006 06:34:00 PM  
Blogger MEGS:) said...

Thanks for nothing sean! LOL.

6/23/2006 06:34:00 PM  
Blogger Administrator said...

MSTK,
I know your site. It's awesome! Didn't mean to offend.

6/23/2006 06:34:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

tapdawg: Nope!

6/23/2006 06:34:00 PM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

looks like either i did it wrong... or pilferk took down the pics

6/23/2006 06:34:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

sorry meg. i for some reason thought that question was directed at men.

6/23/2006 06:35:00 PM  
Blogger espiao said...

Anyone noticed the second clue at the 48 director listing??
untitled-2.html just below de video´s link.
Is a confidential memorandun from Dr. Hackett

6/23/2006 06:35:00 PM  
Blogger MSTK said...

none taken. but having a screenname lik e "Administrator" does intimidate.

6/23/2006 06:35:00 PM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

yup i did something wrong

6/23/2006 06:35:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

I MEAN AT ME!! NOT AT MEN!!

6/23/2006 06:36:00 PM  
Blogger MEGS:) said...

LOL Sean! Don't worry about it:)

6/23/2006 06:37:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

espaio: Yes! Trying to determine if it's related or not. What do you think?

6/23/2006 06:38:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

I just realized, the 48 Hours clue could have been a clue to "file 48."

6/23/2006 06:39:00 PM  
Blogger MEGS:) said...

Could be, Sean. Or it can just be that 48 is a very popular number in Lost.

Assuming this question was directed at men...er, me.

6/23/2006 06:41:00 PM  
Blogger LostawayT said...

This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

6/23/2006 06:41:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

ok meg. you can stop calling attention to that now. lol.

6/23/2006 06:42:00 PM  
Blogger illuminarok said...

Rachel Blake is sexy

6/23/2006 06:42:00 PM  
Blogger howienight said...

Pictures of the island on the show lost:

http://lost-forum.com/showthread.php?t=11885

Pictures from RBlake's video:

http://www.anomymage.com/images/lost/lostisland1.jpg

Notice the little lagon almost on teh top left of the island on RBlake's video and the same lagon shape on the pictures from the island on the show. Any thoughts???

6/23/2006 06:42:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

Hey! Maybe the ship is transporting new electromagnets to replace the destroyed ones.

6/23/2006 06:43:00 PM  
Blogger espiao said...

DOn´t know Maven...Dr. Hackett was mentioned before by MelOdrama and this project Sumo looks odd and old.
Maybe something with Dharma???

6/23/2006 06:43:00 PM  
Blogger Kate Wonder said...

lostawayt: Yeah, me too. I heard the whispereing at the start as well.

6/23/2006 06:43:00 PM  
Blogger MEGS:) said...

O c'mon Sean. It was a funny mistake. I have to draw attention to it. Ok. maybe not that funny.

And do u really need a ship that big to transport electromagnets?

6/23/2006 06:44:00 PM  
Blogger Joker_927 said...

This is the first movie in Quicktime formot isn't it?

Is it on YouTube? Should I convert it and put it on?

6/23/2006 06:45:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Maybe this directory is something that MelODrama "loaned" to Rachel to put her video, and this memo is related to him?

6/23/2006 06:46:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

Maybe meg. the electromagnets in the hatch were pretty big.

and stop trying to shoot down my theories. lol.

6/23/2006 06:46:00 PM  
Blogger Administrator said...

lostawayt,
it's a mystery. Many believe that an electromagnetic field is giving the island invisibility (amongst other things - healing powers, enhanced psychic capacity, etc) Search Philadelphia Experiment in Wikipedia for an idea.

But we need to be careful about spoilers. Some people haven't seen all of season 2.

6/23/2006 06:47:00 PM  
Blogger MEGS:) said...

I can't help to SHUTDOWN your theories, Sean. That's what I'm here for. LOL.

6/23/2006 06:47:00 PM  
Blogger Administrator said...

joker,
I've already got it loaded on youtube.
waiting for approval.

6/23/2006 06:48:00 PM  
Blogger espiao said...

Yes Maven, maybe you´re right
"Me: I just looked back through the posts. You say you NEED to talk. About what? you got info on Hanso? Mittelwerk?"

"Mel0Drama: No... not really. I can't specifically link either of them..."
Anyways this game is driving me crazy!

6/23/2006 06:50:00 PM  
Blogger howienight said...

Hey its me again.

To make it easier to see i marked off the area that I was talking about earlier. the more i look at it the more I am convinced.

http://picasaweb.google.com/MattMcGuffin/Desktop

6/23/2006 06:50:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

ah. you see megs. just like the admins explained. something that can do that much has to be big.
not to mention they built a whole hatch around it.

6/23/2006 06:50:00 PM  
Blogger MEGS:) said...

OK Sean. U can stop obsessing now. I see where you're going. Mostly. LOL.

6/23/2006 06:52:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

I never said I was obsessing megs. although, looking back at my previous posts, i probably was.

jeez. i do obsess.

6/23/2006 06:56:00 PM  
Blogger TEAM Lena said...

GGRRRR!!! I go to the beach and get back to see EVEN MORE stuff goin on!!!!!!!

I feel punished LOL.

6/23/2006 06:56:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

howienight: Thanks for the comparisons. That lagoon is very interesting!

6/23/2006 06:56:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

megs, we're really veating off topic. people have are going to read all this. should you and i continue this conversation on AIM?

6/23/2006 06:57:00 PM  
Blogger MSTK said...

howienight - we can't really trust those pics from the forum, becuase they come from Roussaeu, who is obviously crazy.

6/23/2006 06:58:00 PM  
Blogger MEGS:) said...

First of all Sean, I think u ment VEERING off topic. Stop typing so fast. LOL.

Second, I'd love to;)

6/23/2006 06:59:00 PM  
Blogger LostawayT said...

administrator -
Sorry, I'll go back to lurking...

6/23/2006 07:06:00 PM  
Blogger Idaho Girl said...

Administrator said...

Idaho Girl...the heroic 108, 4 hour adventurer!

I tell stories about you to my friends. You're a legend!



LOL. I'm honored.

I don't know about a legend, but I told my sis that I was famous for about 5 seconds on this particular site.

For one insane moment I wondered if the in-game person named "terry idaho" meant anything from the writers. But then I decided I was delusional. :)

6/23/2006 07:06:00 PM  
Blogger Administrator said...

Welcome back Lena!
Howienight & Maven. Good comparisons but I don't really think it's the same. Our new pic is topped by more of a penninsula.
Quick thinking though!

6/23/2006 07:08:00 PM  
Blogger Joker_927 said...

Did I miss something in the video? What new material do we have? What's the next puzzle? Find the island?

PS. Do you stairs in your house? (anyone)

6/23/2006 07:09:00 PM  
Blogger Administrator said...

lostawayt,
NOOOOOOOO! Please don't go back to lurking...engage with us!

We need to be talking about electromagnetism b/c it probably is related to Mittlwerk's ship. I was just saying we've got to be careful about spoilers.

6/23/2006 07:11:00 PM  
Blogger Richard said...

so what are we getting from the island map?

6/23/2006 07:12:00 PM  
Blogger AylaKat said...

Looks like Mittelwork is sporting a bitchin' ponytail. Think he listens to metal?

6/23/2006 07:14:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

one thing we know is that if this ship is going to the island, it would have something to do with the DHARMA initiative.

A project what was SUPPOSEDLY abandoned in 1987.

6/23/2006 07:16:00 PM  
Blogger patchwork3930 said...

Wow, do you think Rachel is hinting for us to ask her to stowaway on the ship? That's a terrifying thought!

6/23/2006 07:19:00 PM  
Blogger patchwork3930 said...

Oh and Aylakat, he probably listens to Rammstein I'd guess :)

6/23/2006 07:20:00 PM  
Blogger D. said...

Mittelwerk is a cripple, not an ape-man or somesuch. He's probably got one of those prostethic legs, I remember seeing someone walk with one of those, a friend's mom, actually. It's almost the same

6/23/2006 07:20:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

i wouldnt mind stowing away. would you pass up the opportunity to meet jack, locke, sawyer, kate, etc.? It'd be like a dream vacation...That would literally last forever.

6/23/2006 07:20:00 PM  
Blogger lost & confused 2 said...

can someone please help. I can't get the video to load and I can't find it on YouTube.
I feel so left out.

BOOOO HOOOO

6/23/2006 07:21:00 PM  
Blogger Carol said...

Reflection in R's glasses looks like camera tripod, maybe someone sitting on bottom right

my hair is longer and more luxurious that Mittleworks. Not as wavy though, dagnamit.

6/23/2006 07:24:00 PM  
Blogger Administrator said...

lsot & confused 2,
I've got it up on youtube but it's processing.

Everyone...Rachel is in even more danger now. Mittlewerk recognized her, "Do I know you?" was muttered right? Do you all think that they are on to her now or will Mittlewerk dismiss her familiarity?

6/23/2006 07:25:00 PM  
Blogger TEAM Lena said...

lost & confused...

Have you tried a different browser? What one are you using (mozilla firefox, IE etc...)

6/23/2006 07:25:00 PM  
Blogger black lab said...

aylakat -- its not just a ponytail that's a full on mullet with the business up front and the party in the rear!

6/23/2006 07:25:00 PM  
Blogger j7chico said...

Does anyone think the island could be Halmahera (Indonesia). The equator crosses the island and Rachel mentions that the island is near the equator. Check out the link and tell me if you think it looks similar. Just a thought. I haven't read through all the comments, sorry if this was mentioned already.

http://encarta.msn.com/map_701512921/Halmahera.html

6/23/2006 07:26:00 PM  
Blogger BookBuffRBM said...

I noticed the limp too. Mittlewerk could have a prosthetic leg. And Dr. Candle had a prostetic arm/hand in the Swan Orientation video. Maybe Mittlewerk was involved in the "incident" mentioned in that video? Could be he wants to find the island because that's where Hanso is? Which could tie in to Magnus Hanso being on the Black Rock.

6/23/2006 07:26:00 PM  
Blogger JennK_68 said...

Lost & Confused 2 -

Here's the YouTube link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kORUfGysaM0

6/23/2006 07:27:00 PM  
Blogger The Alternative said...

Google Earth @ or near the equator for the location of the island... just a thought.
Anyone care to waste a little time searching?

The Alternative One

6/23/2006 07:27:00 PM  
Blogger TEAM Lena said...

patchwork3930 said...

Oh and Aylakat, he probably listens to Rammstein I'd guess :)


LOL GOOD ONE patch! I know that band!

6/23/2006 07:27:00 PM  
Blogger AylaKat said...

Anyone have anything to say about the document also found in the 48 folder? I'm going to assume "our friends in Copenhagen" refer to THF. What is Project Sumo and what was this clown talking about 18 years ago?

Patchwork: Du Hast is his personal theme song. :)

6/23/2006 07:28:00 PM  
Blogger patchwork3930 said...

Isn't that always the way Lavenda? :)

Lost, it took an awfully long time to load for me for some reason. Maybe it's just slow for you?

6/23/2006 07:28:00 PM  
Blogger lost & confused 2 said...

jennk_68,
Thanks so much!!!

I am not real good with computers when I was in high school all we had was DOS

6/23/2006 07:30:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

Remember that Lost Island is not on any known map. Mittewlek's map is probably one of the only maps of the island in existence.

6/23/2006 07:30:00 PM  
Blogger patchwork3930 said...

aylakat, that letter meant very little to me. I don't understand it at all, so I hope some reference is coming.

6/23/2006 07:30:00 PM  
Blogger TEAM Lena said...

The Alternative said...
Google Earth @ or near the equator for the location of the island... just a thought.
Anyone care to waste a little time searching?

My OTHER half is ON IT! I will keep ya posted.

6/23/2006 07:31:00 PM  
Blogger D. said...

I think he's trying to regain something. The thing is -- is Mittelwerk that guy's real name? And oh yeah, he may have a genetic disease, do you guys (and girls) remember his bio on THF?

6/23/2006 07:31:00 PM  
Blogger Carol said...

j7chico, I don't think it could be that island. It's north of Aus, not north-east where the plane roughly should be. Plus that is west of PNG and the freewebs site that had info on Black Rock that Rachel linked to said the Black Rock said east of PNG (though PNG only became PNG in the 70's... dates the book to rather recently if they tried to make it accurate in that sense). SPOILER? (Desmond also seemed to think sailing west would get him to Fiji)

Then again, maybe they were waaay more off-course than they thought, LOL.

6/23/2006 07:32:00 PM  
Blogger TEAM Lena said...

rxhector (my other half) GOT THE COORDINATES!!!!!

4.815 n 162.342 w

THERE ARE ISLANDS! But he cant find one right ON those coordinates

6/23/2006 07:33:00 PM  
Blogger j7chico said...

point well taken lavenda.

6/23/2006 07:34:00 PM  
Blogger patchwork3930 said...

Admin- Yeah Rachel took such a risk bumping into TM like that! If she is P and worked for Hanso, he would surely have seen her at some time before. I'm really worried about her now!

6/23/2006 07:35:00 PM  
Blogger D. said...

And there is, indeed, a disease that degenerates your legs' movement. I jsut don't know its name. Can someone check it? It's neurological, I believe

6/23/2006 07:35:00 PM  
Blogger The Alternative said...

Team Lena -->

Where did the coordinates come from? Google Earth?

The Alternative One

6/23/2006 07:38:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

polio.

6/23/2006 07:39:00 PM  
Blogger moxy29 said...

d. here is the text from the bio for TM

As President and Chief Technologist of The Hanso Foundation, Dr. Werner Mittelwerk humbly serves as Alvar Hanso's right hand and chief adviser. Born in Austria, Mittelwerk's early years instilled a work ethic that has helped fuel The Hanso Foundation's engine of progress for over twenty years. Losing his mother to rare genetic disorder at a young age, Mittelwerk dedicated himself to become the world's foremost authority on biology and genetics. At eighteen, still pursuing at Caltech, Alvar Hanso personally drafted him to join The Hanso Foundation. In his role as President of The Hanso Foundation, Mittelwerk's leadership has ensured prodigious contributions to numerous scientific disciplines, all in the name of insuring a better future for the whole of humanity

6/23/2006 07:41:00 PM  
Blogger Administrator said...

patchwork3930,
Don't know that he "would surely have seen her"...Hanso Foundation seems huge and also very spread out (hansocareers.com). Rachel wonders (in the add-on to her post 05) if he's seen her blog.
Hmmm....

6/23/2006 07:41:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

Maybe THF was able to find a temp cure for Polio. Just like they cured Thompsons cancer. Polio affects the legs.

6/23/2006 07:41:00 PM  
Blogger Administrator said...

polio. Good thought sean.

6/23/2006 07:42:00 PM  
Blogger Administrator said...

we still don't know what happened to Locke's legs right?

6/23/2006 07:42:00 PM  
Blogger j7chico said...

d there are several diseases that cause nerve degeneration in the legs.

6/23/2006 07:42:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

speaking of hanso careers, i looked into becoming an organ courier for THF. Y'know, something to make life more exciting.

6/23/2006 07:43:00 PM  
Blogger Idaho Girl said...

The "numbers" being possible coordinates of the island has been a theory for a long time, although there has never been anything to confirm or deny the possibility as far as I know.

6/23/2006 07:43:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

Could Mittelwerk be trying to find a way to use the healing powers of the island to cure his leg problem. i know it would be difficult. you cant just put it in a bottle, but he could be trying something. it worked for locke.

6/23/2006 07:45:00 PM  
Blogger Idaho Girl said...

Polio is one of several things that affects a person. But polio isn't genetic. I think the genetic ones are more likely.

6/23/2006 07:45:00 PM  
Blogger JennK_68 said...

I saw a link to those Google coordinates a while back on http://www.lostlinks.net/, I think it's pretty cool that they fall between Australia and California!

Anyhow, this was the link I had bookmarked:

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=4.815+162.342&spn=98.389954,150.292969&iwloc=A&hl=en

or (using Speaker's favorite tool)

http://tinyurl.com/8jmeq

Like Team Lena said, no island exactly there, but I think it's interesting that it falls along the potential flight path!

6/23/2006 07:45:00 PM  
Blogger patchwork3930 said...

Admin-Good point, unless there is a photo log of all the employees?
Seeing her log is more probable though. :)Or catching sight of her in Copenhagen.

6/23/2006 07:46:00 PM  
Blogger Idaho Girl said...

It did work for Locke, but Rose indicated that she didn't want to leave because it was the place. Do we know for certain yet that the "healings" will remain once they leave the island?

6/23/2006 07:47:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

REMEMBER!!!This island is not documented on any maps, other than mittelwerk's.

6/23/2006 07:47:00 PM  
Blogger Administrator said...

Maybe he caught a glimpse of her delivering pizza.
Or surveillence footage of her taking a pic of the comp screen.

6/23/2006 07:47:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

Ooops. I meant to turn off the caps lock on "Remember." Sorry about that.

6/23/2006 07:48:00 PM  
Blogger D. said...

Losing his mother to rare genetic disorder.." <- thanks, moxy

Well, we don't know what age his mother was when she died. He may be showing signs of the disease now.

6/23/2006 07:48:00 PM  
Blogger Crossfade said...

I'M BACK! OMG so much has gone on, trying to catch up...

6/23/2006 07:49:00 PM  

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