Clue #61 - Rachel Blake Copenhagen Post 05 & RoT Update
Rachel Blake Update:
Rachel posted again. And she linked us to a new website where she apparently has hidden clues to another video. Head over to 43things.com and go to Rachel's List of 43 Things. You'll notice that goals 4 8 15 16 23 and 42 all contain just one word: truth, safe, reckon, copenhagen, alvar, sumo. It also stands out that goal 43 is "Have a refreshing beverage".
This led us to sublymonal.com, where we entered "truth safe reckon copenhagen alvar sumo" into the login box. This action opens up a second login box. Remembering Rachel's blog conversation with Mel0drama (Post 01), Rachel said: "Me: Cool. Gotta go. I've got 43 things to do to stop their 'better tomorrow'"
Entering "better tomorrow" in the new sublymonal login box takes us to http://www.sublymonal.com/_hidden/ . Look in folder 48 (48 hours reference from ROT Board) for the video. (also on YOUTUBE). Also in folder 48, we find MelODrama's first reveal about Dr. Hackett, a confidential memo.
Linmoo found Mittlewerk's island in google earth. The pictures are of islands in Lake Superior in Ontario, Canada near Thunder Bay. The islands in the picture with names are Edward Island, St. Ignace Island, Simpson Island, and Wilson Island.
Thanks to Stash, Justin, & arkay for emailing. Thanks to Richard for posting in the comments. This was apparently solved by a crew in an unfiction chatroom.
Retrievers of Truth Update:
There is more chat going on in the Retrievers of Truth Message Board.
Thanks to Chris, Bob, MSTK, Gary, Lainie, and Vijay for emailing first!
Rachel posted again. And she linked us to a new website where she apparently has hidden clues to another video. Head over to 43things.com and go to Rachel's List of 43 Things. You'll notice that goals 4 8 15 16 23 and 42 all contain just one word: truth, safe, reckon, copenhagen, alvar, sumo. It also stands out that goal 43 is "Have a refreshing beverage".
This led us to sublymonal.com, where we entered "truth safe reckon copenhagen alvar sumo" into the login box. This action opens up a second login box. Remembering Rachel's blog conversation with Mel0drama (Post 01), Rachel said: "Me: Cool. Gotta go. I've got 43 things to do to stop their 'better tomorrow'"
Entering "better tomorrow" in the new sublymonal login box takes us to http://www.sublymonal.com/_hidden/ . Look in folder 48 (48 hours reference from ROT Board) for the video. (also on YOUTUBE). Also in folder 48, we find MelODrama's first reveal about Dr. Hackett, a confidential memo.
Linmoo found Mittlewerk's island in google earth. The pictures are of islands in Lake Superior in Ontario, Canada near Thunder Bay. The islands in the picture with names are Edward Island, St. Ignace Island, Simpson Island, and Wilson Island.
Thanks to Stash, Justin, & arkay for emailing. Thanks to Richard for posting in the comments. This was apparently solved by a crew in an unfiction chatroom.
Retrievers of Truth Update:
There is more chat going on in the Retrievers of Truth Message Board.
Thanks to Chris, Bob, MSTK, Gary, Lainie, and Vijay for emailing first!
343 Comments:
first?! :(
YAY!
Now if anyone is too lazy to sign up for an account, BugMeNot has a list of pre-made accounts and logons here
http://www.bugmenot.com/view/www.43things.com
..oops. Guess I didn't scroll up to see leolio's post. serves me right for switching between this, ITE, Rachel's blog, and mIRC.
I'm in the top 10! Yay!
So did we find this video yet?
What a way to end the week!!!
Peace & Namaste
...yeah. I didn't find it either.
But at least there's a new blog.
Hopefully it's not the only thing of the day.
I've registered a name...clicked on Rblake's profiles...on everything to do with Australlia and Copenhagen...ugh...
I've never used 43things.com before, I'm not familiar with it. Do they even have videos on that site or are we looking for a hidden link or message to find the video elsewhere?
Probably have to get a certain number of people doing it to have the video..love the wig, I like blondes better anyway!!
Peace & Namaste
wow. things are getting fast up again! YAY!
By the way, does nyone find it funny that when you click on the Rachel picture, the advertisements on the frar right say "Find Hidden Videos!"
It seems like teh RoTters just found out that the Hanso site went down? They're about a week late.
But then again, they always ahve been late.
so, it looks like the 43 things site will lead us somewhere else to the actual video.
i'm working on the bug me not passwords...
yea, she's got a list of stuff to do.
what are we supposed to find?
hmmmmmmmmmmm...
visit friend in scotland
open a swiss bank account
witty or actual?
oker 927, and how do you know that the "Zeitgeist" was the correct one?
sorry about our post. Don't think Zeitgeist matters. It was just what we tried first and it brought up her pic. It seems inconsequential though.
joker - um, actually, taht was me. I posted that.
If you type "Stop Hanso" into the search box on 43things, there is an Advertisment on the right for HansoCareers.com.
I looked around a bit but didn't see anything new. That would be taking a gamble for Rachel to post the video there...
yea i dont think that zeitgeist means anything
someone uploaded the picture and that's why it was temporarily on that page...
I agree. Don't think we need to get stuck on the "find Rachel Blake's video" thing...
Probably need to be looking for clues in Rachel's account or maybe Mel's
hey sit on a monkey. you claim to have seen the video. hook a brotha up.
don't think melodrama.43people.com is a clue.
joker, you find something different.
Just see her things...
4-truth
8-Safe
15-Reckon
16-Copenhagen
23-Alvar
42-sumo
Joker_927
The "grey" letters are from Clue #41
Just see her things...
4-truth
8-Safe
15-Reckon
16-Copenhagen
23-Alvar
42-sumo
anagram the first letter of these words, is it pointing to a RSS feed?
tac RSS
Cat RSS
act RSS?
fom insidetheexperience website....
VIDEO FOUND
The video has been found through a great joint effort in the unfiction.com chat room:
Following Rachel's link to 43things.com, we quickly found a user named RBlake, who had 43 goals:
http://www.43things.com/person/RBlake
It was noticed that goals 4 8 15 16 23 and 42 all contain just one word:
truth safe reckon copenhagen alvar sumo
Also, goal 43 is "Have a refreshing beverage"
This led us to sublymonal.com, where we entered "truth safe reckon copenhagen alvar sumo"
This silenced sublymonal and opened up a second login box
DanteIL noticed that at the end of her blog conversation with Mel0drama, Rachel said: "Me: Cool. Gotta go. I've got 43 things to do to stop their "better tomorrow""
Entering "better tomorrow" takes us to
http://www.sublymonal.com/_hidden/
Look in folder 48 for the video
Yup, someoen found it.
Let's go watch it together, shall we? wonder what clues it may unlock...
I cant believe i missed all this stuff. i was around all morning and nothing. i go out for a few hours and i miss all the action. story of my life.
oh, and thanks richard.
i was on my way... till i saw it on the speakers blog...
DOH
it certainly does look like there's someone in the room with her from the reflection in her glasses.
also, ol' Tom has a limp, a ridiculous pony tail, and a bodyguard.
idaho girl - it'll probably come up in YouTube pretty soon.
Anyway, so Rachel found a map. I'm pretty sure it's a map of the Lost island. Remember that Lake that Kate & Sawyer found in the First Season, which had the piece of the fuselage and guns + the toy plane? I think it's that big one in the center.
Soo it looks like we got to figure out where that island is located then post/email rachel about it so she can follow them to the island.... so start getting pictures of that island up so we can figure out what island it is!
P.S. May the force be with you (classic!)
and, i guess the big question is: 'is that THE island?'
Well I havent read the comments. I got some catching up to do. But (I am sure it has been mentioned) the latest ROT message seems to indicate proof to me that DSelerator and iobiSeeingYou are indeed talking to us people (peeps) through AIM.
I will catch up with all this tomorrow. Sorry if what I mentioned has been well publicised or proven wrong.
Goddnight.
That was an interesting video.
I think it's good.
We get to meet Mittelwerk himself.
and we get a map of (what i believe is) THE island.
Dont worry megs, it will be worth the loading time. trust me.
matt the pale,
I agree.
Ship: Electromagnetically Armed (Philadelphia Experiment Related?)
Island: Dharma Related
Question:
Anybody else notice Mittlewerk's limp? Any ideas? Did I miss something in his bio?
he actually sounds like a nice guy. initially anyway...
WHAT IS SHE READING right before she runs into him?
It looks like a tourguide traveler's book or something.
I'll rip and convert the video. It'll take me a sec. Send email if someone else beats me to it.
she's pretending to be a tourists ....so she's reading a tour book
p.s. anyone have an uploaded photo of that maps yet?
Dont worry meg. you can probably still start watching it. it will be done loading by the time you get to where it is now.
What kind of "executive" has a pony tail that long?
Any idea what "Project Sumo" is?
doesn't mittlework look like he is native american or at least part native american?
maven,
a Rock n Roll executive!
:)
He looks like a hippy.
but it was interesting actually seeing mittelwerk in action.
All I can sayt is --
I hope we're not done for the day.
i think rachel could take him on if they had gotten into a fistfight... hahaha just kidding.
Is anyone else going to take rachel serious and try to locate this island from the map on our real world maps?
pilferk posted these on the rachel site:
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/pilferk/island6.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/pilferk/Island5.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/pilferk/Island4.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/pilferk/Island3.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/pilferk/Island2.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/pilferk/Island1.jpg
Josh from ITE posted screenshots --
http://www.anomymage.com/images/lost/lostisland1.jpg
http://www.anomymage.com/images/lost/lostisland2.jpg
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See meg? wasnt it worth the wait time?
and ive never seen a ponytail that long. even on a girl.
Video loading on YouTube.
Meghan:) - agreed. best yet.
tapdawg, mstk
you know how to hyperlink? I can show you. It's better for everybody.
please teach me... it'd be very happy to learn
meg, i am trying to im you but its not working. are you on the same computer.
I know how to hyperling. But I like to capture the raw essense of the moment by posting copying and pasting the quotes verbatim, to illustrate the conjunctiveness of the...
Yeah, i'm sorry. Just too lazy =/
For everyone...To hyperlink:
Subsituting all
( for <
and all
) for >
(a href="http://www.insidetheexperience.com")Inside the Experience(/a)
You get:
Inside the Experience
Make sense?
I already knew how. I have a site of sorts.
Next time, though. I promise.
What about the other document found in File 48? The "Doubleblind Data" re Project Sumo? Is it related?
Idaho Girl...the heroic 108, 4 hour adventurer!
I tell stories about you to my friends. You're a legend!
Meghan - substitute "CTRL+C" for the little squiggly line box thing + C, and CTRL+V for little squiggly line box thing + V.
im sure its possible meg. i dont work with macs that often.
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ah see. problem solved.
MSTK,
I know your site. It's awesome! Didn't mean to offend.
tapdawg: Nope!
looks like either i did it wrong... or pilferk took down the pics
sorry meg. i for some reason thought that question was directed at men.
none taken. but having a screenname lik e "Administrator" does intimidate.
yup i did something wrong
I MEAN AT ME!! NOT AT MEN!!
espaio: Yes! Trying to determine if it's related or not. What do you think?
I just realized, the 48 Hours clue could have been a clue to "file 48."
ok meg. you can stop calling attention to that now. lol.
Rachel Blake is sexy
Pictures of the island on the show lost:
http://lost-forum.com/showthread.php?t=11885
Pictures from RBlake's video:
http://www.anomymage.com/images/lost/lostisland1.jpg
Notice the little lagon almost on teh top left of the island on RBlake's video and the same lagon shape on the pictures from the island on the show. Any thoughts???
Hey! Maybe the ship is transporting new electromagnets to replace the destroyed ones.
Maybe this directory is something that MelODrama "loaned" to Rachel to put her video, and this memo is related to him?
Maybe meg. the electromagnets in the hatch were pretty big.
and stop trying to shoot down my theories. lol.
lostawayt,
it's a mystery. Many believe that an electromagnetic field is giving the island invisibility (amongst other things - healing powers, enhanced psychic capacity, etc) Search Philadelphia Experiment in Wikipedia for an idea.
But we need to be careful about spoilers. Some people haven't seen all of season 2.
joker,
I've already got it loaded on youtube.
waiting for approval.
Hey its me again.
To make it easier to see i marked off the area that I was talking about earlier. the more i look at it the more I am convinced.
http://picasaweb.google.com/MattMcGuffin/Desktop
ah. you see megs. just like the admins explained. something that can do that much has to be big.
not to mention they built a whole hatch around it.
I never said I was obsessing megs. although, looking back at my previous posts, i probably was.
jeez. i do obsess.
GGRRRR!!! I go to the beach and get back to see EVEN MORE stuff goin on!!!!!!!
I feel punished LOL.
howienight: Thanks for the comparisons. That lagoon is very interesting!
megs, we're really veating off topic. people have are going to read all this. should you and i continue this conversation on AIM?
howienight - we can't really trust those pics from the forum, becuase they come from Roussaeu, who is obviously crazy.
Welcome back Lena!
Howienight & Maven. Good comparisons but I don't really think it's the same. Our new pic is topped by more of a penninsula.
Quick thinking though!
lostawayt,
NOOOOOOOO! Please don't go back to lurking...engage with us!
We need to be talking about electromagnetism b/c it probably is related to Mittlwerk's ship. I was just saying we've got to be careful about spoilers.
so what are we getting from the island map?
one thing we know is that if this ship is going to the island, it would have something to do with the DHARMA initiative.
A project what was SUPPOSEDLY abandoned in 1987.
i wouldnt mind stowing away. would you pass up the opportunity to meet jack, locke, sawyer, kate, etc.? It'd be like a dream vacation...That would literally last forever.
Reflection in R's glasses looks like camera tripod, maybe someone sitting on bottom right
my hair is longer and more luxurious that Mittleworks. Not as wavy though, dagnamit.
lsot & confused 2,
I've got it up on youtube but it's processing.
Everyone...Rachel is in even more danger now. Mittlewerk recognized her, "Do I know you?" was muttered right? Do you all think that they are on to her now or will Mittlewerk dismiss her familiarity?
lost & confused...
Have you tried a different browser? What one are you using (mozilla firefox, IE etc...)
Google Earth @ or near the equator for the location of the island... just a thought.
Anyone care to waste a little time searching?
The Alternative One
patchwork3930 said...
Oh and Aylakat, he probably listens to Rammstein I'd guess :)
LOL GOOD ONE patch! I know that band!
Remember that Lost Island is not on any known map. Mittewlek's map is probably one of the only maps of the island in existence.
The Alternative said...
Google Earth @ or near the equator for the location of the island... just a thought.
Anyone care to waste a little time searching?
My OTHER half is ON IT! I will keep ya posted.
j7chico, I don't think it could be that island. It's north of Aus, not north-east where the plane roughly should be. Plus that is west of PNG and the freewebs site that had info on Black Rock that Rachel linked to said the Black Rock said east of PNG (though PNG only became PNG in the 70's... dates the book to rather recently if they tried to make it accurate in that sense). SPOILER? (Desmond also seemed to think sailing west would get him to Fiji)
Then again, maybe they were waaay more off-course than they thought, LOL.
rxhector (my other half) GOT THE COORDINATES!!!!!
4.815 n 162.342 w
THERE ARE ISLANDS! But he cant find one right ON those coordinates
Team Lena -->
Where did the coordinates come from? Google Earth?
The Alternative One
polio.
patchwork3930,
Don't know that he "would surely have seen her"...Hanso Foundation seems huge and also very spread out (hansocareers.com). Rachel wonders (in the add-on to her post 05) if he's seen her blog.
Hmmm....
Maybe THF was able to find a temp cure for Polio. Just like they cured Thompsons cancer. Polio affects the legs.
polio. Good thought sean.
we still don't know what happened to Locke's legs right?
speaking of hanso careers, i looked into becoming an organ courier for THF. Y'know, something to make life more exciting.
Could Mittelwerk be trying to find a way to use the healing powers of the island to cure his leg problem. i know it would be difficult. you cant just put it in a bottle, but he could be trying something. it worked for locke.
REMEMBER!!!This island is not documented on any maps, other than mittelwerk's.
Maybe he caught a glimpse of her delivering pizza.
Or surveillence footage of her taking a pic of the comp screen.
Ooops. I meant to turn off the caps lock on "Remember." Sorry about that.
He says he got coordinates from someone who saw them somewhere in comments on rachels blog. They said they got them from a paper in video??
Could Mittelwek just have hurt his leg in an accident. It doesn't have to be a disease. But i mean a big accident.
VERY good point sean...thats why we cant find the EXACT island on google earth!
I guess Rachel is not a Lost fan.
rachel's chatting with gidgetgirl in her comments right now
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i know.
i was talking to j7chico by the way.
GidgetGirl said...
Rachel, I hate to be the crack of doom, but do you really think you're going to get any further by literally bumping into these guys?
Rachel Blake said...
Got any better suggestions? Cause all I'm hearing is another Monday morning quarterback.
GidgetGirl said...
Look, all I'm saying is that if they didn't know who you were before, you're giving them an awfully good reason to figure you out. And, I don't get it.
Why are you putting yourself at risk like this? Why are you doing this, Rachel? Who are you?
Rachel Blake said...
I have my reasons. Most of them, I think I've made pretty clear.
Rachel Blake said...
Because my reasons are MY reasons. I've given you more than enough to stand up with me on this. But, if you want to play that little game of the pot calling the kettle black, then I don't mind pointing out -- you're not exactly being forthcoming either, GidgetGirl.
GidgetGirl said...
No... this is personal for you.
If you want us to help, why don't you tell us what's really going on?
GidgetGirl said...
Fine. You got me. We each have things we don't want to talk about. Let's move on.
Rachel Blake said...
Great. Then, the question I have... the question that's keeping me up at night, is why am I the only one willing to put myself in the line of fire to stop these guys?
GidgetGirl said...
You're not. Not if you let me help. Now, you've said it yourself. You want ANSWERS instead of more QUESTIONS. If that's true, then all you have to do is agree to my terms.
Rachel Blake said...
And what would those be?
GidgetGirl said...
Take down the photos of Hugh McIntyre.
Rachel Blake said...
So, we're right back where we started?
No sale. I'll tell you the same thing I told Mel0Drama... This is how I work: if you give me a good tip up front... solid info that pans out? Then I'll be more than happy to take those pictures down. But for all I know, you ARE Hugh McIntyre.
Rachel Blake said...
GidgetGirl?
Speculation abounding that GidgetGirl is Hugh's mistress
Why would the Copenhagen Cartographical Society have maps of the island?
I got one out of order...oh well
Apparently, Mittlewerk must have figured out where the island is by searching the database re shipping lanes in that Archive Building. Knowing where it was, he went to the Copenhagen Cartographical Society and got those maps. He knew what he was looking for.
Maven, right. Now somebody needs to follow him.
It's gotten quiet. I'm out too.
One last thing...My youtube video finally came through so I had to post it.
MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU.
A couple of things to consider:
1) aware that some people might not be caught up through the end of season two, i will go ahead and say to those wondering about the "lagoon" on the island map - we have seen that kelvin and desmond used it to store the Elizabeth - in the second season finale.
2) mercator projections - rachel goes out of her way to say that the maps are not to scale and distorted - my first thought, looking at the images of the map, is that they are laid out on a grid. a grid will of course distort images of land - anyone remember that episode of West Wing where the Cartographers for Social Justice were going on and on about how the mercator projection favors the northern hemisphere, and makes certain countries look larger than others, and so on and so on. unsure why rachel makes special mention of it.
3) there is a small island off the coast of the main island - is this where the pala ferry carries henry gale and the others? is that what he refers to as "home"?
4) we're assuming that the island on the photos is THE island. i wonder if it's safe at this point to make that leap simply based on Hanso's involvement in the slave trade in the south pacific and some grainy satellite images. plus, recall that pen widmore has "found" the island in 2004. we know that widmore has at least some affiliation with HF, so, are pen's efforts independent of HF's? did pen revolt against her father? if pen "found" the island in 2004, then is mittlewerk looking at the results of her research? if they're working at cross purposes, then HF is two years behind an independent agent (pen). does pen know something that HF doesn't? is it possible that she is actively looking for the island itself, rather than for desmond? what are pen's/widmore's/hf's intentions with regard to the island? there are so many characters and elements and motivations to juggle, it seems like there will never be a single answer, which adds to the appeal of the game, to say nothing of the show.
5) rachel's newest post only intensifies my suspicions of her. this is what, the second or third time she has physically thrust herself dangerously close to McIntyre and Mittlewerk. please tell me that mittlewerk, mcintyre, cctvs at these archives that she keeps sitting outside of in plain sight - please tell me i say, that she can continue to have these encounters and not yet have aroused suspicion. it's just curious, if not increasingly implausible. if she's looking to be goaded into stowing away on the ship, and actually does it - again, it's just not reasonable that she could manage all of this stalking and espionage on her own. she has to be funded or working for someone with the means to orchestrate her movements.
6) for the president of a multinational corporation, mittlewerk in the video is extremely awkward. he freezes upon bumping into rachel, and it is only after being harrassed by rachel for a while that the other guy (henchman? bodyguard? another guy who just happens to be standing around outside the archive?) steps in and sends her on her way. something about these encounters just does not sit right with me. it's too convenient - these videos and escapades seem staged.
7) rachel's videos - they have all of these jump cuts and zooms and blips and the like - as though they were The Swan video. are we to believe that when she's not bouncing around being cute, three feet behind a major corporate player, persistently and blatantly hacking megacorporate websites, and putting herself, her face, and her intentions all over the internet, that she's cutting and editing her own web-cam posts? again, for one person, whose means and resources we are absoultely in the dark about, is rachel someone that we can trust implicitly?
How many people have missing body parts so far? Just Marvin Candle and Mittelwerk? Plus whoever lost their glass eye?
Well, we know that Sam Toomey's wife, Martha, lost her leg (car accident)... she had a prosthetic leg.
Farmer Ray had a prosthetic arm.
We know from Danielle that Montaigne lost his arm...
Looks like Mittelwerk is limping when he walks. Anyone else notice that?
Also, doesn't it look like he notices something is up with Rachel? Looks like he mumbles something, and then him and that other guy are pointing at her as she walks away. Hmm..
It's not just a ponytail...it's the longest ponytail I've ever seen on a guy before (let alone the executive of a major company)!
Well since they mentioned a port in South Korea I decided to take a look and nothing...just thought Id say this to save time and effort.
Hey!!!!!!!! I went and relaxed for a while and come back and the blog is A DIFFERENT COLOR!!!!!!!!! What gives?
Hey, I can see my house from here!
G'morning everyone!
I'm glad I wasn't awake while all of this was happening in real time. I would have gone crazy trying to find that video.
I'm surprised Rachel had the ovaries to slam into Mittelwerk like that. Pretty cool. Color me skeptical, though, but I don't think we're going to find the island that easily. For all we know, they could have mocked that up in Photoshop and printed it out. I'm just saying... Just because we manage to Google Earth an island that might LOOK like the one in the video, doesn't mean it IS it. Grain of salt.
*yawns and enjoys my PopTarts* So, how is everyone doing?
I think they wouldn't put something in that we can't find, and ask us to find it..or would they...I have to admit it does look heavily photoshopped...but then again, so is everything else.
Can anyone make anything out of that page in the book next to the map?
Well, Rachel really wants us to find the island. However, I kind of doubt that it's a "real" island that's on Google Earth or Encarta or whatever. If we find the island, the show could be over! Ha! Ha! Maybe there's an in-game map site, or an in-game place (on the web) that holds the key to the island we seek.
Well, having just finished re-skimming over the comments, do we have any real leads to possible islands that might match the phycial description and location of it? I think it's going to be so hard to find because of the size, generic shape, and the fact that the clues to where it might be are so wide-stretched and vague. Between Australia and Los Angeles... 100 miles off-course from Fiji... Shipping routes, etc... *McSigh* I think it's going to take more than one night to find this place. Or maybe it's just meant to keep us occupied until her next blog when she has a new lead to it's locale.
Every time Rachel has asked us something, a scripted answer has ended up being presented. That's not to say don't try, who know what we may find, let alone the theories we'll concoct in the mean time. I'd be rather happy if I am wrong :)
Yeah, probably, interrobang!. Could be off the coast of Equat Guennia for all we know.
And pardon my skepticism. I'm a natural skeptic and cynic.
We need to compile a large list of what we know about the island's location.
- Within 1000 miles of the flight line between Sydney, Australia and Los Angeles, California.
- Diverting from the flight path, the island lies somewhat towards the direction of the island of Fiji.
- Unnaturally occurring tides, storms, and climate could offset location of island from the equator.
- EQUAT could be assumed that the island lies near or on the equator.
HELP ADD TO THE LIST.
Thanks, lexis b. Rachel said that she's depending on us to find the island, which leads me to think there won't be any more info from her directly. Unless she tapes Mittelwerk in an upcoming video revealing something to help us in the right direction. Letyourcompassguideyou might be a start with what we have already. I think TPTB dropped this on us late on Friday, so we'd keep "busy" all weekend. The next piece of the island puzzle is still to come...
mochi, I've been thinking about this a bit recently. IIRC the plan was flying for 6 hours before turning back and flying 2 hours towards Fiji. While I remember coming across a real-world site that showed a flight path from Sydney to LA, it didn't have nice markers of the planes position every hour of the flight :-D In the finale there were some more details given... sailing due west for a certain amount of time should get you to Fiji. I've got my head stuck in looking for the original source of that Persephone pic, otherwise I'd go off on this tangent again
mini... argh, you're just gonna keep tempting me aren't you? Probably a good idea to figure out where Fiji is on it. I can pick New Caledonia, but can't remember Fiji's location in relation to that
mini, there you go again... I had already looked it up on an old shipping routes map I saved the other day :) To me it looks like the flight path goes over Fiji, so turning around and going back to it wouldn't seem to put them too far off I would have thought. Still, don't feel I have enough information.
And now Rachel is signing off with "Live Long and Prosper"??? Star Wars and Star Trek? Look to the skies? Look from the skies?
A lot of the islands in Kiribati seem to have lagoons on them. Perhaps it is one of these? Check out Birnie island, the shape is similar, but not quite the same. Maybe there is a similar island somewhere in that region?
cne -- it's always been there.
And I can't believe at how many of you who are asking questiions that were already answered in this very post. A simple CTRL+F could find your answers.
be nice mstk...its NOT a big deal is it?
I sometimes enjoy helping those who are LOST.
lena - sorry if I came off as impatient. I guess I was blowing things out of proportion. But sometimes having to sift through the same questions fives times just to read some content kind of irritates me. It's not that big of a deal, but I guess it might save space and clutter.
Wow. Now why would that be on file in Denmark? There is nothing there, and the only remotely close shipping lane would be to Chicago.
Thunder Bay is nearby, it has a port I think, I seem to remember blinking and missing a lot though...
If I remember correctly anything Canadian in lost has ended up dead.
This not going anywhere good.
It's on the coast of Lake Superior, near Ontario.
We're doing the major research on Rachel's blog right now.
Head over there so we don't have to doublepost everything.
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Star Wars references....
I don't think it is a coincidence that both Rachel and the Speaker made references to Star Wars yesterday. Rachel invoking the "force" and the Speaker with his referemce from Clerks and the "Death Star". Is the large modified ship another Death Star (ship)?
The Alternative One
And a chilling thought...
What if there is more than one "experimental" island?
The Alternative One
OK, so we know it's not Isle de la Lost. Nice work Linmoo! Way to ignore Rachel's "it's near the equator" theory. You can "find" it yourself by going to going Earth and typing in the co-ordinates '48.37N 88.75W'.
Interesting note about the Canadian island compliments of LostPedia..."Of the area, the only major location appears to be the 'Silver Islet', a small town site which was both the first Ontario silver mining site and at one time the largest in the world (1870-1884)."
'the alternative': chilling thought indeed! Maybe this is one of the other places on earth with "exceptional energy" as mentioned by the Healer(?).
I don't think there is anything in the Starwars link. Referencing Starwars has become an element of everyday life in itself and anyone that is a starwars fan is probably prone to making star wars comments every now and then. If they were going to drop hints I think they'd pick something less common.
I'm still wondering if it was the water that was interesting to Mittlewerk in that map and not the actual islands. Something could be in the water, perhaps sunken? Possibly the ship modifications are to allow for searching that part of the water. Perhaps the translation wasn't entirely accurate and ship was actually sea going vessel and is actually a submarine. That could tie in perhaps with the shark picture where someone said there was a sub in the background (although personally I never saw it myself). I don't reckon you could take a sub into just any dock, especially if it was say, a stolen Korean military sub?
Just wanted to say "Way to go Linmoo!" Very cool stuff.
At least Mittelwerk did not have a mullet!
"Live Long and Prosper"
http://users.newblog.com/thinbluemime/
http://www.stignace.com/recreation-8/
I found this reference to diving for shipwrecks and wonder if that might be what Mittelwerk has in mind.
I don't is this has been touched on, but in the last video I got the impression that Rachel is being watched... and their survaillence (sp?) equipment is messing with her video camera.
I couldn't pull the voice out but I tried, at the very beginning of the video it sounds like a voice says "Can't Reach You..." Then later after Rachel leaves to confront mittlework their is another voice that says help, followed by static and then the phrase all good! I tried to isolate them and clear the audio up but this batch is pretty difficult.
You can hear it here and compare it to the actual video.
L00K at Middelwerks Body Guard's Hand
http://usera.imagecave.com/thinbluemime/RachelBlake_Mittelwerk2006-06-24HAND.jpg
I'm with you Crossfade. If anything actually happened in England I'd love to go and check it. Question is does anyone live remotely near there?
Another thought I had about this island is that Mittelwerk might be looking for the DeGroots or someone connected to them and the Dharma Initiative. They were at U. of Michigan so may be there, have associates there or have hidden something there.
His right finrger and middle finger are split all the way back to the base of the hand...freaky!!!!
lilblondedude: I'm with you. This Lake Superior thing came out of nowhere. It doesn't seem to make sense. The location definitely matches up with Mittelwerk's maps, but it doesn't ring true to me. I may be wrong, and I am a lot!
If you google Project Sumo you get quite a few ongoing things. The most interesting one is out of Standford: SUper conducting Microwave Oscillator (www.bigben.stanfor.edu/sumo/)
Project Sumo - SUMO-signalering in planten.
Plants are able to detect stress, e.g. pathogens, in their environment. Recognition of stress leads to activation of signalling pathways in the cell, in which specific protein modifications play an important role. These modifications, of which SUMO is a new and still only little explored form, change the function of the signalling protein. In this project the role of SUMO in the plant defence against pathogens will be studied.
Sorry: that's www.bigben.stanford.edu/sumo/
The memo does mention the "ridculous parameters set up by our friends in Copenhagen". This must be a tie-in to Hanso?
The connection with Lake Superior is likely the shipwrecks dotting the coastline. At the turn of the centure the Great Lakes were a major shipping route, and to this day there are many shipwrecks along the coasts of Lake Superior and Lake Huron.
If Mittlewerk is researching old shipping lanes this would be a possible area for a sunk ship.
Maybe he's looking another one of old Magnus Hanso's ships other than the Black Rock?
Belly, too funny, that hair of his cannot be his real hair..but I digress...That certainly looks like the island in his photo...
The person you are refering to, Belly, is nuts, this is the place to be, and yes we all check the 'other' sites but it is not regulated and people act up (putting it nicely), no need to worry about double posting, some of us do it all the time, by double posting I mean here and other places...not a big deal to cut and paste really...Lost Rapsody is funny...
Hey, Antecedent - welcome back. A lot of us were wondering where you were. I just had a tooth extracted. It wasn't so bad for me. Sorry to hear you're in pain.
I kind of agree with natevoodoo. This Canada thing came out of left field. The map find if definitely a match, but it doesn't make sense. Either we're missing some further info (to come or to find), or they wanted to throw us off with all the equator references.
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Lost Rhapsody is a welcome diversion! I saw it a while a go, and forwarded to my son and sister.
To those that were questioning Mittlewerks limp...a possible answer...
Wer·ner's syndrome (vĕr'nərz)
n.
A hereditary disease of young adults that is characterized by short stature, early graying, cataracts, vascular disorders, and generally premature aging and death.
Or
Werner Syndrome is a rare progressive disorder that is characterized by the appearance of unusually accelerated aging (progeria). Although the disorder is typically recognized by the third or fourth decades of life, certain characteristic findings are present beginning during childhood, adolescence, and early adulthood.
The Institute for Genomic Advancement is likely controlled by Thomas Werner Mittelwerk, who lost his mother to a rare genetic disease (possibly Werner's disease) and was allegedly studying genetics at Caltech before being joining the Hanso Foundation.
Just keeping it real and making sure we all remember facts of the game so far...
theres got to be some sort of healing force. its on the island, but maybe alvar hanso found a way to harness it. this could be how he was able to cure all the diseases in the clinics. it could be how he healed peter thompson, and mittelwerk.
it can also have something to do with why hes being held hostage.
belly: What DO we know about that island? Is there some kind of weird stuff that goes on there like testing or maybe defence stuff? THATS what needs to be found out!
In my opinion these Canadian islands may be a Red Herring in that they won't further the storyline (cause if they do this is something completely off-kilter and unexpected), but I don't think we should discount things like the islands names that are pictured...
We all know how deep we sometimes have to dig for passwords in this game...So keep in mind Edward, St. Ignace, Simpson, and Wilson!
Maybe Canada is where the Listening Post is...after all...there were snowy mountains in the background.
In other news...there is, of course, a place called St. Ignace...but as of now...there was never a Saint Ignace with any interesting background.
Ha...now this is some interesting stuff...
http://www.mysteryspotstignace.com/
WichitaWrangler said...
Ha...now this is some interesting stuff...
http://www.mysteryspotstignace.com/
GOOD find wichita! I know of a place in South Dakoda called "the cosmos" thats JUST LIKE THAT!! LOL
Hey Wichita! I found that one!
http://www.cosmosmysteryarea.com/
My husband and I took the kids to that mystery spot last year. Pretty cheesy but the kids liked the gift shop.
Wilson Island is also the name of an Island in Australlia...maybe Mittelwerk is just confused!!! Hehe.
I'll take a gander Lena.
Mittlewerk = Hanso, the logical extension of Joop is keeping humans alive much longer than they should be, and would explain why we can't find Hanso.
Also, wasn't Black Rock a slaver ship? If so, it wouldn't be a likely spot for a shipwreck in Lake Superior, as didn't slaver ships tend to go south? If so they would be more likely to dock at a southern port of trade rather than traverse the entire Mississippi to get to a destination. Also, how old was Black Rock? Shouldn't it predate Great Lake shipwrecks?
ZKY...wanna hear something odd geographically about Thunder Bay? There are a series of Mesas, or smaller versions of plateus...that make up what looks like a person when viewed from above...they call this person, The Sleeping Giant...almost peed myself when I heard of something called the sleeping giant being on the island till I realized it had to be viewed from above. (you know, that crazy foot formation in the finale)
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I'm sorry if this is already posted, but the timestamp for untitled-2.html is dated June 27, 2006 and the time is 04:61.
Also, the 108 link leads to /_hidden/Music/ I tried going to /_hidden/108 and it said that I am not authorized to view it. I guess we need to satrt checking back on that page.
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