<body><script type="text/javascript"> function setAttributeOnload(object, attribute, val) { if(window.addEventListener) { window.addEventListener('load', function(){ object[attribute] = val; }, false); } else { window.attachEvent('onload', function(){ object[attribute] = val; }); } } </script> <div id="navbar-iframe-container"></div> <script type="text/javascript" src="https://apis.google.com/js/platform.js"></script> <script type="text/javascript"> gapi.load("gapi.iframes:gapi.iframes.style.bubble", function() { if (gapi.iframes && gapi.iframes.getContext) { gapi.iframes.getContext().openChild({ url: 'https://www.blogger.com/navbar.g?targetBlogID\x3d27395339\x26blogName\x3dThe+Lost+Experience+Clues\x26publishMode\x3dPUBLISH_MODE_BLOGSPOT\x26navbarType\x3dBLUE\x26layoutType\x3dCLASSIC\x26searchRoot\x3dhttps://thelostexperienceclues.blogspot.com/search\x26blogLocale\x3den_US\x26v\x3d2\x26homepageUrl\x3dhttp://thelostexperienceclues.blogspot.com/\x26vt\x3d5068876707136548895', where: document.getElementById("navbar-iframe-container"), id: "navbar-iframe" }); } }); </script>

The Lost Experience Podcast Episode 4 & DJDan's Latest Podcast

Daniel, Jeff and William are on their own this week with David in Colorado, but don't be discouraged because we called him and have some exclusive comments from the mountain man that you won't want to miss!

Click HERE to launch iTunes, find our podcast, and subscribe.
Click HERE if you'd rather just listen in your browser or download the file.

DJDan also released another podcast on Monster.com called "Shutting Down the Man". This one was really stirring and all about Hanso! Our friend Antecedent made a stunning comeback (after a car accident & hospitalization) by giving us a complete transcript in the comments. Check it out...

311 Comments:

Blogger Mike Campbell said...

First...Can't wait to listen

6/08/2006 09:17:00 AM  
Blogger Passafist said...

The shark has a fly that keeps buzzing around it. I think the shark is real and rotting. Or maybe it's half metal/half animal? Maybe cyborg sharks!

6/08/2006 10:46:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Aaron, when did you have aan IRC, I would love to have chatted live to you guys...I had serious system issues last night not to mention the blog going down...

I noticed when I first looked at the ROT blog that the last entry was on 6/7 at 10 pm, I was looking at this a 3 pm on 6/7, how is this possible? Were we to quick with solving this?

Peace and Namaste

6/08/2006 11:03:00 AM  
Blogger Dennis said...

Bittorrent available here: http://www.mininova.org/get/334344

6/08/2006 11:13:00 AM  
Blogger Dr3dPir8 said...

sxzgun/john, let's try to keep this board constructive... I'd hate to see the same bickering and negativity here that has become pretty common on ITE's blogs. We appreciate your opinions, but at least offer something constructive to go along.

I've noticed a lot of "grumbling"(?) over the DJDan podcast being out of sync with his website and the "current events" provided by P. I think I'm beginning to get a theory on this, so bear with me... this is speculation:
The hacks we have been getting are not the "original" releases of the information she's giving us. Perhaps we are seeing replays of hacks and/or information that P previously acquired and shared - possibly along a timeline in the past that would match up with DJDan's information. With the introduction of ROT and what I believe to be their "signature" in the IGA page, I think that they are the current hackers pumping us information. Speaker eluded to the Lost show being past events of this alternate reality - why can't the P and DJDan information also be past events of the alternate reality, with ROT being current?

Just a theory, but if there are any gaping holes, please point them out (constructively).

6/08/2006 01:18:00 PM  
Blogger Dennis said...

This is not about the podcast but..

I found this interesting article today about magnetic fields boosting brain power. Sound like a real life Hanso experiment!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/core/Content/displayPrintable.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/06/07/wbrain07.xml&site=5

Magnetic field 'can boost brain'
By Roger Highfield, Science Editor
(Filed: 07/06/2006)


Ordinary people could be capable of extraordinary feats of mental agility by turning off part of the brain with magnetic fields, according to Australian scientists.

In the Hollywood film Rain Man, the character played by Dustin Hoffman counts 246 toothpicks at lightning speed when a waitress spills them in a heap on the floor of a diner.

The ability of ordinary people to do this same feat can be boosted with magnetic fields, says Prof Allan Snyder, Director of the Centre for the Mind, a joint venture of the Australian National University and the University of Sydney.

His study, which is published this month in the journal Perception, investigates whether repetitive transcranial magnetic stimulation, TMS, can improve a healthy person's ability to guess accurately the number of elements in a scene.

Participants in the study were presented with 50 to 150 random elements on a monitor.

Of the 12 participants, 10 improved their ability accurately to guess the number of elements immediately following TMS treatment to the left anterior temporal lobe, a skill that receded an hour later.

6/08/2006 04:02:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Site seems to always have been down when I am on so I had to catch up on all happenings in here. Hi all.

Dogs in sharks, jellyfish, submarines and lights in sky (the list goes on..). Nice work you crazy people.

I do think this is when one of these explosions from the show happened.

I never saw mentioned (and I actually saw this BEFORE reading your stuff) about what looks like a mast in pic 2 of the clue. here. I put it down to being a glitch with the picture but the apparent submarine found here seems to have a mast coming from it too. I still don't think it genuine though.

I saw 2 dogs. One was the 3d jaws of a dog coming from the would. Think it is nothing though.

If you touch up the pic of the guy standing in photoshop it is definitely a coat like Marvins.

Can't remember my other observations but I am going to listen to DJDan podcast now. Thought this blogs cast rocked but sounded like you guys were deliberately speaking soooo slowly. And thought you said no time limit.

AND good to see your doing fine antecedent. Thought Hanso had got to you. UNLESS IT ISN'T antecedant. (Remember the walt thing) LOL

Later


Oh well, more site problems. I have now heard DJDAN. I definitely think there is still more to SaveJoop.com from last podcast. An it really does sound like DJDAN or WIFE posted that latest clue. Plot thickens. Hmm. Miss not being able to speak to you guys.

6/08/2006 05:43:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

And nae (no) fichtin' (fighting). Anyone comes in and says something that delibirately upsets, just ignore. Simple. It only fuels it. We follow the game differently and we are learning a hell of a lot of useless (in real life except for pub conversations) but fascinating information. I for one like it. I see why others don't. Fantasy and all (not everyone likes role playing board games (and computer games) like Warhammer 40000 and the dungeons and dragons type theme. But those who do really ENJOY it.

Peace & Namaste

6/08/2006 05:57:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Sorry,

Meant to say fichtin was Scot speak (not that we all speak like that. Most don't. I don't. Just pointing out that it was from Scotland in case it confused.

6/08/2006 05:59:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

And the dungeons and dragons theme was an example. It wasn't linked to this thing.

And I am not the one who plays Warhammer. That is my brother but I know people have opinions on this stuff as I said.

I blether (waffle) a lot sometimes. It is nice to be able to post for a change though.

6/08/2006 06:04:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

6/08/2006 06:06:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

I was reading over at InsidetheExperience while this was down today, and boy, did it get nasty over there. Very juvenile! Please...don't let that happen here. Everyone is so nice and I'm learning so much about computors, obscure facts, and human nature. Keep up the pleasantries and good work.

6/08/2006 06:22:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

And my Mum said that she thought the picture of vincent wally was of spielberg, lucas and

someone else straight away. She doesn't follow this. hmm Any truth in it?

I have discovered how to read posts made even though I cannot force myself to post.

If you put the link to the comments sections into a download manager (I use download accelerator) it will keep trying until it can download it. The file should be opened with notepad and then all the text copies. Create a new text document and paste the text and save as an HTM file instead of txt. It will then show you the posts made. Thought it might be hand under the circumstances.

Or am I still waffling.

6/08/2006 06:24:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

6/08/2006 06:25:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

True maven. There is a lot of useful stuff (for real life) being found here too.

6/08/2006 06:26:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Looks like I am the only one that can post.

I mentioned that http://lxicon.com/hanso2/ was a list of official clues and how to get them. Great reference tool. But as has been pointed out it does not list hole2 and hole3 stuff. These are definitely official. Why doesn't it mention them? Will it ever? Seems it is only refering to stuff on main Hanso site only. Doesn't mention hidden Joop page box. (I think this is a red herring as I am sure someone mentioned that official sources said there would be red herrings). Just theorising. Don't mind me.

6/08/2006 06:49:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

10000 names needed at joop.com. I think something in-game will happen.

Oh well. See you lot.

Goodnight.

6/08/2006 06:56:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Maybe DJDan did post the latest clue and P is his wife. She has been compromised and so DJDan has been forced to take over.

6/08/2006 07:00:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Now I thought of it I cannot get it out my head. Maybe I will dream about it (wouldn't be the first time I had a dream about the weirdness in The Lost Experience. Maybe I will tell you some time.

6/08/2006 07:03:00 PM  
Blogger Dr3dPir8 said...

andre - thank you... I felt at the time it was a tad too easy. I guess I should have waited until my coffee had kicked in before I posted this morning. I guess I'm going to have to relisten to the DJDan podcast; I missed where P was his wife (?). At any rate, I think TPTB have made it a point with this clue/podcast that we can't trust that everything we are getting is "real-time". Does anyone know where I can actually download his 3rd podcast, the one from sublymonal? I got the others, but wanted to save a copy of them just in case they dissappear.

6/08/2006 09:00:00 PM  
Blogger Dr3dPir8 said...

Another thing that has come to my attention: expounding on Bellyo's parthenogenisis definition/explanation, if we go further back than the current definition, we can find parthenogenisis in Greek mythology. As you all know, mythology has been very intertwined in this game and show. In Greek mythos, parthenogenisis was not strictly reserved to the females. An example of a parthenogenic creation by a male would be Zeus creating Athena either from his mind, or from his thigh (depending on which mythos is read). Zeus had 2 or 3 more parthenogenic creations.

I don't know if this will be significant, but you never know...

6/08/2006 09:07:00 PM  
Blogger Dr3dPir8 said...

Just as another weird aside - I have a greek mythology text book (remnant from college) and was looking up a couple things in the index... Penelope is listed and is on page 108! Just thought that was funny. :)

6/08/2006 09:25:00 PM  
Blogger Dr3dPir8 said...

Pharmacopaeia - good info. I have limited experience outside of Greek and Roman mythos, and am always interested to learn about others. Interstingly though, Athena was technically a parthenogenic birth as well since she sprung from Chronos' genetalia after he was castrated and they fell into the sea. I'll have to go read on that Genos Gynaikon...

6/08/2006 09:34:00 PM  
Blogger Dr3dPir8 said...

Sorry, got a little confused... I always have trouble with Athena and Aphrodite... thanks for the correction. :)

6/08/2006 09:38:00 PM  
Blogger Dr3dPir8 said...

emull - could be. Dr. Pepper and Sprite are both under the Coca Cola Co. btw - they are also giving away 23 H3's (Hummers)...

6/08/2006 09:54:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

COOL!!! I am finally able to get into the comments!!!!!

6/08/2006 10:15:00 PM  
Blogger The Truth Tempest said...

Hi guys! Hey, I'm going to be out of town for three days. So, I probably won't be able to come on if something big happens.

I'll be back next week, though!

Just wanted my friends to know! You know who you are!

-The Truth Tempest
Word. Check out DJ Dan's new album: "Shutdown!" Parental Guidance is advised.

6/08/2006 10:30:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

MOXY29:

GOOD POINT! VERY GOOD POINT.

There always seems to be a clue in those!

Hubby just pointed out that each week we get a new clue for different areas, thats the only one left!

6/08/2006 10:32:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

Bye triple T! Get back before Tuesday!

6/08/2006 10:33:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

belly0fdesire said...
lena: lol... and THAT is what you post? heheheh...

Yes LOL I realize that I basically said absolutely NOTHING didnt I?? LOL

Well as you can see...I made up for it. :P

6/08/2006 10:35:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

Pharmacopaeia said...
LEna - maybe we'll finally get to play with that 'inquire today' box!

OH I SOOOO VERY HOPE SOOOOO!!!!!! Been DYING to play with that one!

6/08/2006 10:38:00 PM  
Blogger High Power Rocketry said...

No it was great : )

6/08/2006 11:02:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

EMull said...
Has anyone seen that new dr. pepper commercial? Their pitch is that it has '23' flavors. I bring it up because they mention the number over and over again, like every 2 seconds. is this a clue? is dr. pepper a new sponsor for the game? am I getting so wrapped up in the lost experience that I am starting to associate everything with the game? Let me know what you guys think!



I went and checked out Dr Pepper, just in case and they are running thier own game about 23 flavors...so no, dont think it is anything...sorry!

6/08/2006 11:18:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Finnaly!!

Has anyone made a timeline of the events around the show and the experience so far? They don't seem to match, they have been on the island for like 65 days, which would put them around the end November. It seems like the HF is now trying to do some spin control, not very good, but anyway...It is nice to be away from the out of control post on ABC...

I need more time to dig into the mythological ideas going on today...

Peace & Namaste

6/09/2006 08:50:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Matt: I agree this should be more than an online experience. They had originally said that it would encompass all forms of media...they know who there fan base is...why have there not been clues in magazines, newspapers, etc. It is kind of frustrating in that regard, I would love to go driving around my local area looking for a clue...Alas, maybe I should just watch American Treasures...Philly Rocks!!

6/09/2006 08:57:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Traci- Once I have the time, hopefully over this weekend I want to sit down with all of the dated clues and dated information and make a time line...then post it somewhere so we can refer back to it and add to it as needed...making no promises I will be able to do it this weekend though, going to give it the college try...

Peace & Namaste

6/09/2006 09:16:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Sounds like a plan. Like I said I will try and get it together, I am going to the Commerece Bank bike Race in Manayunk on Sunday and b-day party on Sat., Manayunk is one of the coolest places in Philly...

Peace & Namaste

6/09/2006 09:33:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Frenchie!! You are awesome!!! going to copy that and see what I can add or clarify!! Thank you so much!!

Peace & Namaste

6/09/2006 09:43:00 AM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

taiwanguy. Interesting stuff you have found on Dharma logo etc. I would like to find if there is some interesting link up with the numbers inc gematrian numbers. This may provide some insight.

Nice one frenchie.
I will add this timeline to my research tools and try to add to it also. I will let you know if I find anything that would go in there that hasn't been mentioned.

At work so will have to go but will see you guys later.

miss marple, I like the God finder site you mentioned too. Could come in handy.

6/09/2006 10:04:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

I would not go to in depth yet, I think the story has it's merits, and certainly has a parallel...I have been doing a lot of mythology research, more than I need, but there seems to be a direct link to many of the mythologies of certain cultures and lost...when I can get direct connections or we have a philosophy/religion group blog I will unload my findings...most of which are at home...=(

Peace & Namaste

6/09/2006 10:24:00 AM  
Blogger Dr3dPir8 said...

marple/crossfade - I believe that Penelope also had to "fend off" 108 suitors.

* 52 from Dulichum
* 24 from Same
* 12 from Ithaca

I'm not sure where the myth connections may lead, but I think it is all very interesting. The obviously did some homework with it. I think I might spend some time this weekend putting together what I can find on myth connections and possible significance. Maybe we'll have 2 things we can review Monday. :)

6/09/2006 10:43:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Miss Marple, you are doing a great job, keep up the great work!!!

Wiz: explain the Gamaritan table to me, I was not able to log on when it was being discussed and it is tedious to read the entire blog...is there a site you can refer me to?

6/09/2006 10:43:00 AM  
Blogger Dr3dPir8 said...

Marple - your doing great so far! and keep up the wonderful input!

frenchie/thrasher/traci - since you're going with the timeline, can you also put in there the order of our clues & information and how they relate to that timeline? I think that TPTB are purposefully giving us this stuff out of order (i.e. DJ Dan podcast), but can't think of why...

6/09/2006 10:49:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Miss Marple: P was only allowed out of Hades once a year, known as spring and summer, she then went back in fall and winter and everything dies, also, Hercules was the only one able to take Cerberus for a walk, could Locke be our modern Hercules?

007: I will try and add the clues in based on this sites clue list...

Peace & Namaste

6/09/2006 10:59:00 AM  
Blogger maven said...

Frenchie: Thanks for your timeline. I was actually working on one last night and came up with a lot that you did. However, I do have a lot more dates that I found. I will post later today as I incorporated some of yours into mine. Do you think we should put when and how we found passwords/clues on this timeline? Or should it end when THF.org went up and Persephone started hacking?

6/09/2006 10:59:00 AM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

oo7surge.

Here is a link to the main page I have looked at about gematrian numbers. Took me hours to go through it all and it only familiarised me with it all. Hoping someone else can make a breakthrough here. See what you think anyway.

About Lost:
possible spoiler
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
*
Penelope at the end got a call from a couple who had found something. What? The island itself? I think so. She had said if she wanted to find something, she would. I wonder what this will mean for the future.

6/09/2006 11:00:00 AM  
Blogger maven said...

Everyone: I am diligently trying to work on the timeline -- which might give us insights on somethings. Mine is pretty long. I'm mostly concentrating on THF. I'm not including LOST characters, unless it pertains to THF. Do you all think it should include how and when we got the passwords?

6/09/2006 11:37:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Lab Tech: Great find, will add to my notes of things to look into further

We certainly have taken over the post today with myth stuff...we are going to get our own page for sure...

Peace & Namaste

6/09/2006 11:39:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Maven: I would just use the HF as the main line, then use things that affect it.. like character interactions...P's things, DJ Dan, clues..ETC..

6/09/2006 11:43:00 AM  
Blogger sean said...

I heard somewhere that Dharma means

D=4th letter of alphabet
H=8th '' '' ''
R=18th-the 2 A's dhArmA which is 16
M=13+2 A's=15
just a theory

6/09/2006 11:58:00 AM  
Blogger Dr3dPir8 said...

Speaker's away message is "A FRAGMENT IS HIS"

A MISSING FATHER?

6/09/2006 12:02:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

HAs anyone added anything more to the time line, mine is coming together really nicely...how do I post it?

Peace & Namaste

6/09/2006 12:07:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Belly, just like you are posting that picture, how do I do that?

I have it saved on my PC, now what?

Drawing looks great!! I used to be an artist, ok, still am, but more of a hobby...looks real nice...

6/09/2006 12:19:00 PM  
Blogger Dr3dPir8 said...

iheart - I thought that too, but even symantically I think it makes little difference.

could be FISH RIG NAMASTE -->(j/k)

marple - I think that's heading in the right direction... do you think Speaker's trying to tell us we missed something?

6/09/2006 12:29:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Okay, guys: Here it is. I know it's a long post, but couldn't think of any other way to do this. Feel free to add or correct. I did the best I could!

THE LOST EXPERIENCE TIMELINE:
1901: Joop born?
Late 1920's: Enrico Valenzetti born in Sardenia
October 28, 1943: The Philadelphia Experiment
1949: Alvar Hanso is an arms dealer in WWII
1959: Peter Thompson born in Terre Haute, Indiana
After 1962: UN commisiions euqation to predict Armagedon after Cuban Missile Crisis. Valenzetti presents his Equation one year later.
1964: The Hanso Foundation starts
1967: Alvar Hanso speaks at the UN
1970: Dharma Initiative starts
1980: Swan and Pearl Orientations films copyrighted
May 24, 1986: Houston. Jacob Vanderfield sentenced to 4 yrs for taking bribes. Peter Thompson his attorney. Lawrence Peck sentenced to 8 years for insider trading and 2 years for perjury. Peter Thompson is his attorney.
1987: Dharma Initiative funding stopped by Hanso Foundation (per Hugh McIntyre on the Jimmy Kimmel Show)
1988: Rousseau arrives on island
1989: Peck released after serving 18 months
1990: Vanderfield released after serving 6 months)
1994: Peter Thompson defnded Williamsburg Tobacco Co. agains class action suit on behalf of cancer victims.
1996: Population growth model starts in African country (link with Peter Thompson and Mugato)
1998: Peter Thoompson defnded Globoco Oil as polluters of carcinogenic industrial waste
June 16, 2000: Alvar Hanso in London
November 12, 2000: Alvar Hanso in Copenhagen
2001: Peter Thompson gets cancer and meets Alvar Hanso
2001: Peter Thompson worked on So. Georgia case for a nuclear power plant
Janurary 1, 2001: Alvar Hanso in Copenhagen
February 23, 2001: Alvar Hanso in Pari
July 12, 2001: Alvar Hanso in Geneva
September 18, 2001: Alvar Hanso in Roma
October 28, 2001 Northern Lights go crazy per NASA photo
December 21, 2002: Alvar Hanso last seen
October 28, 2003: Grainy photo of Alvar Hanso
August 17, 2004: Gary Troup invited to Sydney by Christine DeVries of Walkabout Publishing
August 24, 2004: Gary Troup accepts DeVries' invitation
September 22, 2004: Oceanic Flight 815 crashes
November 28, 2004: Cessation of Scottish feudalism (in "Bad Twin")
December 23, 2004: 90 days since plane crash (end of Season 2)
2005: Reporter dies in car crash covering organ harvesting for Cape Town Inquisitor
September 9, 2005: Letter from Jacques Maillot to Dr. Roderick Johnson with copy to Peter Thompson re: meningococal disease in Tanzania
September 25, 2005: Letter to Dr. Roderick Johnson from Global Welfare Consortium signed by Peter Thompson as Acting Director
February 24, 2006: Letter to Hanso Foundation from Daimler-Chrysler for Jeep contract dated March 1, 2006 to May 31, 2006
March 10, 2006: Letter from Daimler-Chrysler to Peter Thompson rescinding fleet contract for Jeeps.
March 17-19, 2006: Hugh McIntyre stayed at Hotel La Dolce Vita in London with lover
April 19, 2006: Mittelwerk visits Verizon offices
May 2, 2006: "Bad Twin" released and reviewed
May 2, 2006: The Handso Foundation website up
May 3, 2006: First Hanso commercial with phone number to call
May 5, 2006: Persephone starts hacking THF
May 6, 2006: Hanso press release regarding "disruption" on website
May 9, 2006: Letter to Robert Miller of Hyperion Boois from Hugh McIntyre to cease publishing "Bad Twin"
May 10, 2006: Hanso uts out ad denouncing "Bad Twin"
May 16, 2006: Gary Troup Interviews 4 and 5
May 17, 2006: Given letyourcopassguideyou.com site. DI9FFtr751 found on Gematrian Wheel.
May 24, 2006: Mittlewerk takes file from Verizon office
May 25, 2006: Hugh McIntyre on Jimmy Kimmel Live. Says LOST is fiction
May 25, 2006: Part 7 of Gary Troup interview. Hyperion has ad in USA Today claiming "all of Troup's claims about THF are true."
May 26, 2006: Cape Town Inquisitor has article re Hanso involved in organ harvesting
May 29, 2006: Cape Town Inquisitor retracts article. Hanso has bought paper.
June 1, 2006: DJ Dan podcast
June 8, 2006: DJ Dan podcast. He gets threatened.

6/09/2006 12:35:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

Good morning (afternoon and evening to some) to everyone!

I just got here and only scrolled up a bit and want to respond to this:

Crossfade said...
I heard someone talking about the Dean Koontz book "The Watchers". Is that the one were the aliens invade earth and a couple is lead by a Golden retriever to collect children and start a new community?

No, Crossfade...that was a GREAT book too (cannot remember which book that was but it was good).

Watchers is the one where there are exparament subjects: a Golden Retriver and an ape like thing that were "bothers" or "twins" so to speak and dog is good and the monster is bad. The monster hates the dog cuz the dog is the "pretty" one.

6/09/2006 12:35:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

Crossfade...it was "The Taking" not "Watchers"!! That is an interesting book to relate to this too!

6/09/2006 12:40:00 PM  
Blogger The Odens said...

Hello everyone...

Sorry this is off topic, but has anyone talked about the fact that the hole3 site doesn't have the red "gear" that has seemed to be persephone's url icon?

I'm not sure where to post things like this.

6/09/2006 12:56:00 PM  
Blogger Dr3dPir8 said...

I get the same feeling marple. I remember in the Cape Town Inquisitor clue that we saw that same xray with a circle under the right lung - possibly showing a missing organ (kidney/liver?). Of course, I still feel that there's more to find in most of our old clues... so I don't think my opinion is necessarily the one to seek on this. :)

6/09/2006 12:58:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Thanks Belly I am still updateing my timeline...

6/09/2006 01:01:00 PM  
Blogger Dr3dPir8 said...

maven - thanks! and nice work

traci - I agree about the myth thread, and I like your idea on P... sounds plausible.

6/09/2006 01:07:00 PM  
Blogger Dr3dPir8 said...

Antecedent - welcome back! and get well soon!

6/09/2006 01:08:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Belly:

Again Thank you or should I say Namaste!!!

I can't wait for my invite!!

6/09/2006 01:14:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

wow. that's commitment.

6/09/2006 01:15:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Belly: Can I email it you and you post it...I can't figure this stuff out...

Peace & Namaste

6/09/2006 01:19:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Belly: Great it is on it's way, I am going to cut and paste it as well in case the format is messed up...

Javy: Crossfade makes me think of the Beastie Boys!! I like it!!

Ant: Glad you made a big bang return!! How is everything?

6/09/2006 01:26:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

OK PEEPS!!! I have a quest to do...

I am now officially on a quest to see just how FREAKISHLY close some of this story is to Dean Koontz books. I know this sounds like a LOST cause LOL but bare with me. I wander if the writers of LOST are AT THE LEAST MAJOR fans of Koontz or maybe, just maybe Koontz possibly could be somehow involved with the show/game.

Here is a JUST A TIDBIT of stuff to chew on while I do MAJOR research in this idea:

Watchers: has good/bad twin and a ape like thing and retriever

the taking: has retriever guiding people as the get killed and kidnapped by aliens

the light of the moon: has people being injected by unknown substance

one door away from heaven: (have not read) says it has to do with hanicaped girl gonna be healed by tenth birthday

soul servivor: is about a guy who is the only survivor of a plane crash

life expenctancy: (taken from the book description) Jimmy Tock comes into the world on the very night his grandfather leaves it. As a violent storm rages outside the hospital, Rudy Tock spends long hours walking the corridors between the expectant fathers' waiting room and his dying father's bedside. It's a strange vigil made all the stranger when, at the very height of the storm's fury, Josef Tock suddenly sits up in bed and speaks coherently for the frist and last time since his stroke.

What he says before he dies is that there will be five dark days in the life of his grandson--five dates whose terrible events Jimmy will have to prepare himself to face. The first is to occur in his twentieth year; the second in his twent-third year; the third in his twenty-eighth; the fourth in his twenty-ninth; the fifth in his thirtieth.

Rudy is all too ready to discount his father's last words as a dying man's delusional rambling. But then he discovers that Josef also predicted the time of his grandson's birth to the minute, as well as his exact height and weight, and the fact that Jimmy would be born with syndactyly--the unexplained anomal of fused digits--on his left foot. Suddenly the old man's predictions take on a chilling significance. SOMEONE TAKE NOTE THAT THE FOOT ON THE ISLAND IS LEFT, the foot mentioned above would have FOUR toes wouldnt it?

6/09/2006 01:34:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Today is not Saturday!! It is Friday!! 6/9/2006 Friday...according to my calendar...Sorry Crossfade! Unless you are in another part of the country...I think he he said he gets back on the 12th

6/09/2006 01:38:00 PM  
Blogger ShoxTP said...

Hey how would u check the source code of a site. I don't suually call myself this but i'm a bit of a noob at this.

6/09/2006 01:41:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

right click on the site and click on "view source."

6/09/2006 01:43:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Crossfade: Since you are down with the B Boys it is okay...I get my dates messed up all the time.. it is what happens when you work a crazy schedule...

6/09/2006 01:45:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

I "borrowed" it from Getty images...just some random business man that is confused, I thought it looked cool...it took me forever to get it to work...I wanted to use a cool Thrasher image...oh well...

6/09/2006 01:51:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Sweet!! I got it to change to the one I wanted!!

Peace & Namaste

6/09/2006 01:56:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Crossfade: Nice!!

6/09/2006 01:56:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Still Playing around since I have now figured it out...

6/09/2006 01:59:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Okay, anyone know what we should be doing? Do any of our proposed passwords work in the mental health page, can we reach the VIK institute?

CrossFade: I think they are made up....

6/09/2006 02:07:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Ferris seems phony to me...

click here to see a cool image for you Ferris

6/09/2006 02:14:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Ferris: You could make that your avitar...edit your bio and add the html...it is

http://www.noisebot.com/images/ferris-thumb.gif

6/09/2006 02:18:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Aaron: Are you going to repost those links, I am very interested in the IRC and the other stuff is really cool, can I be the first to push the button? LOL

6/09/2006 02:20:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Aaron: Having issues locating the server....

6/09/2006 02:35:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

I downloaded the IRC form the link Aaron gave out, when I open it I am not sure what to do next...

6/09/2006 02:49:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

I don't know what do next, either. There's no "window" to put in /join #lostclueteam.

6/09/2006 02:53:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Belly, I am doing that and it is telling me unable to connect to the server...is this due to firewalls and what not?

6/09/2006 02:57:00 PM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

I am a regular reader and just wanted to say how much I appreciate all ya'lls work. This is the best LE blog.

6/09/2006 02:57:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

It is saying Software caused connection abort...must be my 'work' PC getting back at me

6/09/2006 02:59:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

If you have ever been to the other sites blog, this is the most civil and tight knit communtiy...and we love having new minds help us along the way!! Welcome Noblelawyer!!

Peace & Namaste

6/09/2006 03:01:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Belly: I get to irc.crazeecanuck.homelinux.net, but I don't see how to get to main windows or an "options" place to put in a name. I know I'm not very computor literate, but this is bugging me.

6/09/2006 03:05:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Maven: I was able to do it, but it kept telling me unable to connect ot the server...not sure why...not worried about it...it will get ironed out and easier to chat soon enough...

Thanks for everyones help trying to get it working for me...

6/09/2006 03:11:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Well gang I am done work for the weekend, but I am going to try and be creative with some things as far as the time line goes...it might take some others input...but what I want it to look like is very advanced for me...but I am going to outline it and then ask for the help of "Others" to make it happen...think interactive website timeline!! Anyway, be good to your neighbor!!

Peace & Namaste

6/09/2006 03:29:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Belly:

It is a firewall issue, I asked my IT friend...if you are ona personl PC you can allow it through, if you are on a net work like me, tough luck...

Just read Speakers update...seems we should all take a break this weekend...P should be keeping us busy next week...rest up gang...

Peace & Namaste

6/09/2006 03:50:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Dragon: you are a god amongst men!

Ok, bad Magneto reference...X 3 rocks!!

Going to try and get out of here, now, this is like crack, just one more hit and I will leave!!!

PEace & Namaste

6/09/2006 03:55:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Dragon: Sorry, it was a direct quote from a movie, I was keeping it real...my deepest apologies...look forward to the walk thorugh.. have a great weekend all!!

Peace & Namaste!!

6/09/2006 04:00:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

It is and was mentioned above (not a dig by any means)

I guess that will be the clue next week. It will be interesting to find out who the mystical MHA guy that keeps popping up is. Hopefully it will touch on that. Or it could be the other board of directors next week. I guess we will have to wait and see.

6/09/2006 04:39:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

I am getting more and more interested in DJDan. I think that the phone call at the end of his latest podcast was very intriguing. It almost seemed to me that this guy was getting to Dan. Especially when things got personal and his wife was mentioned. I still think there is a good chance he may be involved with Persephone somehow. Is she his wife? Is he an associate helping P out? Or some other connection. I feel there is more than meets the eye to him and his character will become more involved with the game as things progress. Anyone agree?

6/09/2006 04:47:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

I read somewhere that on the http://emri.perception.net there is a hidden password box and they gave the password. It led to a document. I cannot remember nor find what I found. Does anybody know what I am talking about and can help?

6/09/2006 05:06:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

zipperseven.

Yes. But it really does seem to me that that last clue was not from P. I have a few reasons for believing this. And with the shark mentioned in the podcast I think things are pointing to DJDan having something to do with the clue. Happened at the same time so seems TPTB would have meant this and is too vague to be a red herring IMHO.

6/09/2006 05:10:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

I say happened at the same time but DJDan was later. Not sure how important this is. Is DJDan live or is this the time discrepency that was mentioned earlier?

6/09/2006 05:12:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Evidence to sugggest clue was not from P.

-Message from P was not written the same way. Used contractions and just did not "feel" Persephone.
-Message saying standby (which was up for quite a while before anything happened) on persephpne.thehansofoundation.org suggested to me that she was having trouble getting through to us and the clue genomic countdown message backed that up.
-Countdown to a hack. Come on. As has been mentioned this just would not happen. Sounds more like the personality of DJDan to me. P is more careful.
-None of the usual hidden letters etc. Just all seemed a different format (reminds me of DJDan)
-DJDan seemed to not know of the sharks but said having the pic was important. I guess it want on his site but that makes the podcast a while ago. Maybe this is in the past but both him and P are now doing there bit to let the rest of us know what Hanso are up to in there own way. Only P is in trouble so he had to do this latest hack.

And probably some others. Anybody have any thoughts?

6/09/2006 05:26:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

After listening to podcast again I couldn't find that I could disprove roomforhumans comment.

"As far as DJ Dan and P knowing each other is concerned. I have a feeling that Tonya, D's assistant, is P. Her voice even reminds me of P's at times...but, hey, that's just a feeling I have. There is no proof to back this theory up."


It does sound quite like her. I haven't compared to hearing her in the previous clue(s) though.

Yet!

6/09/2006 05:29:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Just heard the clue of persephone speaking. (the one in WWPDP after clicking on the phone.

I am not 100% convinced but am very convinced.

6/09/2006 05:33:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

I would suggest that the message that come up in the WWPDP clue... something like "if you can read this. I know who you are" was not the new hacker but maybe the person that phoned DJDan with threats. This guy is on to both of them. And has Shut Down P. Did this message "if you can read this etc" coincide roughly with the shark pic coming up on DJDan's site. I have to go to bed soon so don't have time to check. I am excited.

6/09/2006 05:39:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

Someone mentioned the fact that the DJdan podcast are "archives" not live shows....was a good point.

I think we are hearing them backwards. Heard that last one first kind of thing.

That would also explain why DJDan is gone (not airing new shows) and remember he was threatened and also said he was gonna name a new guy, and the one before he said there was a DJDave.

6/09/2006 06:03:00 PM  
Blogger The Odens said...

Hello everyone...Here are some of my notes on Bad Twin. I'm trying to verify my info, before posting it here. Hopefully there will be more to come...

(I've been doing some research in hopes that I can contribute rather than just be a wallflower. I've really gotten a lot of info here, but would like to give back if I can.)

*************
Notes from Bad Twin by Gary Troup

General:
Gary Troup = Purgatory
Sawyer was reading the manuscript on the beach but never finished. Jack threw it into the fire when Sawyer had about 10 pages left.
Thought the manuscript was referred to in the dialogue on the show as "screen play"
Book dedicated to Cindy. Flight attendant on Oceanic 815 named Cindy

Characters:
Paul Artisan - Private Investigator
Cliff Widmore - twin brother
Alexander "Zander" Widmore - twin brother
Arthur Widmore - father of twins
Vivian Widmore - wife of Arther, stepmother to Cliff & Zander, "hit on" Paul Artisan
Shannon Widmore - wife of Cliff, good friend to Zander, recently committed suicide


Widmore:
Desmond dating Penelope Widmore - Charles Widmore's daughter
Charles Widmore is an Industrialist and Philanthropist
Race Desmond entered which got him "lost" was sponsored by Charles Widmore
Charles Widmore dislikes Desmond and tried to buy him off to stop dating his daughter
Sun's pregnancy test was made by Widmore Labs
Henry Gale's baloon referenced Widmore Labs on the side
Widmore Construction banner in the background of Charlie's flashback in the episode "Fire+Water" (DriveShaft video filming)
Thomas Mittlewerk's voicemail references Widmore Construction
Michael worked for Widmore Construction
According to LostPedia, Bad Twin manuscript first read by Hurley in "The Long Con" episode although I don't remember this specifically

Going out to dinner now, but will continue researching.
Thanks for reading!

6/09/2006 06:05:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

The http://emri.perception.net/ site that came from the ROT site (though site was available before) leads to the walkthrough of official clues hereall except for the hole2 and hole3 clues (and maybe others I cannot think of). I have heard this is just an ordinary clue site but I haven't seen it proved. I think that if it is not officially hanso then they have chosen to use it as the most accurate one they have found or at least one that TPTB feel is closest to how they want it all to be portrayed. Seeing as though it could be found through an official clue and all.

I did a search for the author of the site. lxicon. The first page I got was this. I guess it does seem like a normal site but as I said I am off to bed very soon and your opinions would be valued.

6/09/2006 06:07:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

And Lena and hubby,

I can't wait to hear all of the podcasts tomorrow and try to verify what you have said about them being backwards. Sounds brilliant. I wish I din't have to work tomorrow.

6/09/2006 06:16:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

nice work loden,

I haven't got a copy (shame on me) so I liked what you put.

And I didn't realise Michael worked for Widmore construction. Thanks for that. I presume you mean Michael from Lost.

6/09/2006 06:21:00 PM  
Blogger JFray said...

Kind of lame, but Paul Artisan (the P.I. from Bad Twin) is an anagram of Australian P.

6/09/2006 06:33:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Espiao: Did you check out my timeline (posted at 12:35pm today) and Thrasher's (at 1:35pm)?

6/09/2006 06:57:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

I have emailed the guys about possibly posting the timelines Thrasher and I did today (combining them -- there are some differences)in the Clue section so everyone can see them and contribute to them. Hopefully, we can have the most complete and accurate one in the game. Otherwise, they've gotten "lost" (ha ha) in the comment section.

6/09/2006 07:26:00 PM  
Blogger -Ysadora said...

I LOVE LOST! ITS JUST A GREAT SHOW!

go check out my blog!

6/09/2006 07:33:00 PM  
Blogger Fenris said...

Good podcast.

I was thinking about parthenogenesis. Wiki says it comes from the greek for Virgin Birth. I've been thinking for a while that there are an awful lot of potential virgin births in the series. A lot of it is only suggested, but you can actually take it further and speculate about a few other characters too. I can't go into detail now because I'm not at home and don't have my paperwork. But we have hints at Locke being a virgin birth/parthenogenesis and Suns unborn being one and Walt being one. We've also got Kate suspecting her father wasn't her real father (so much so she had someone clear in her mind she thought to be her real father). Maybe she was half right and the truth is she has no father.

But it could be a lot of these people had minders, like Lockes "dad" who we know has links with Hanso via the Widmore group. Kates could have been Sam Austen who she thought was her real father (and was maybe the person to recommend the Dharma Initiative to Kelvin?) . Suns child maybe was meant to be the hotel owners son or maybe the person the watch was for? I don't know about Claires son - The American couple? Ethan? Alex? Charlie?? Walts minder was his adopted father (who had some reason for re-introducing Micheal to him before sending him to the Island)? The minder idea makes me think of the "red queens" in the origional Machurian Candidate. Maybe even Jacks father is just an Agent.

If Lockes mother had to be "treated" so she wouldn't reveal anything, then that could tie in the mental health hospital with the Hanso project and that could suggest that both/either Libby and/or Hugo were also Virgin Births/parthenogenesis (my theory - Hugo is and Libby was his minder).

It could be every character in lost is or has had / will have a virgin birth. Certainly there is too much co-incidence for there to be nothing to the angle. If the game is linking in with the series in a way that suggests the series makers have inside info on the real Hanso we could be learning some really significant stuff relevent to the series from the in game version of the angle.

I had some other theories, but I'm too tired. See you all tommorow.

p.s. Is DJDan HIM? Well there has been suggestions that the Others are the hackers, rebels trying to take down Hanso and the DI. You neverknow. Okay that wasn't really a serious one.

6/09/2006 08:11:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

Hey matt the pale:

I saw you over in the other blogsite..

Over there I am "odd t", been working a secret op kinda thing LOL But it got nowhere :(

6/09/2006 10:11:00 PM  
Blogger The Odens said...

Hi guys - and thanks!...I'm back from dinner...

Wizard: You're right, I meant Michael from the show.

Frenchie: I don't think anything has been revealed yet about a relationship between Charles and Arthur Widmore. I really think there is one, but I haven't found it...YET.

I think there's much more we can get from the book that may help us put things together later.

Alvar Hanso was on the board of Widmore Corp (in the book), but now Mittlewerk has taken over.

Fenris: Do we know that Lockes father had ties to Widmore? This is news to me. I'd be interested to know more.

As soon as I have more, I'll post it here...(or the next thread)

6/09/2006 10:20:00 PM  
Blogger The Odens said...

Here are some pics I've gathered related to Widmore from the show...

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j218/codenloden/Widmore/Widmore_Construction.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j218/codenloden/Widmore/charlesWidmore.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j218/codenloden/Widmore/180px-Widmore_preg_test.jpg
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j218/codenloden/Widmore/180px-Balloon_Closeup.jpg

These are all from web research - so props to whoever posted them originally.

I'm sitting here trying to remember where I noted that Michael worked for Widmore Construction. I'm second-guessing myself a little, so I'm going to try to get some confirmation. I'm pretty sure though or I don't think I would have added it to my notes.

more later...

6/09/2006 10:28:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

something (nothing) close to that matt HAHAHA!!

I am odd t over there, if ya wanna know what it was i was doin, go check it out.

6/09/2006 10:40:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

Yah, I know, he was cool but very much avoided my questions...which of corse made me even more curious!! Thats just how I am though...curious like a cat.

6/09/2006 11:00:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

http://www.insidetheexperience.com/

This is where the speaker is! He is the guy who is more or less in charge of the official experience site above that is ran by ABC. But be worned, unlike here, ANYONE can post under ANY NAME over there and it creates LOTS of problems!

They dont get along as well over there as we do here ;) My hubby tends to hang out over there more, so we work together to combine clues.

(btw, I am "odd t" over there, if ya need anything and my hubby is rxhector)

6/10/2006 01:34:00 AM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

RE: pics from loden.

The pic of Charles Widmore reminded me of something. Is he the same person that played Jim from Australian soap Neighbours. About 10 to 15 years ago. His mum was Helen and daughter was Lucy I am sure.

I don't think there is any importance to the game but I wondered if anyone else had noticed.

6/10/2006 04:11:00 AM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

angry:

I was going to say that jvanderf was one of the names in the mailbox page here but I notice it is not in the list. I guess it will come up in the future though. How did you come across this? Just by randomly trying names that had come up before (as you said) at the end of the URL http://letyourcompassguideyou.com/usr/?

6/10/2006 04:15:00 AM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Oh yes. ahanso IS in the list but it takes to the hanso site so it is also an odd find. I think.

6/10/2006 04:59:00 AM  
Blogger Fenris said...

Hey BellyO, have you tried the Wizard of Oz+Dark Side of the Moon thing yet? It is really freaky how well it sychronises up. Start the album just after the third MGM roar and get ready for an experience! Of course the album doesn't even last half the film and replaying it doesn't synch it up as well with the rest of the film (although it's still entertaining providing you can listen to DSotM 2 1/2 times in a row) but that first run through is stunning.

Sorry kind of off topic (although it was the Lost blogcast that got me looking into that in the first place as they mentioned it would be funny if they had found the Pearl station complete with a copy of Dark Side and Oz ready to play).

6/10/2006 07:14:00 AM  
Blogger Fenris said...

Oops. Must learn not to trust a Wiki as your only source of info. Human Error, Human Error.

Okay to explain, I was asked about where I found links between Anthony Cooper and Widmore. It was listed in his bio on lostpedia. So I assumed it was mentioned in passing in the show, but infact his name was listed on the www.widmoregroup.com website which is now considered to be non-cannon, but at the time some eager fan must have filled in the info on his lostpedia bio pressuming the site to be legit. That misinformation in Coopers bio has now been removed. So I don't have a link for him being linked to the widmore group. But it doesn't really change my theories about him or Santa Rosa. Just it's now more theoretical and less factual.

I did wonder how I missed the widmore namedrop in the show, seems the reason is because it wasn't there.

6/10/2006 07:28:00 AM  
Blogger Fenris said...

Oh yes, as for the male offspring with a technique that should in theory only produce females. While I put that down to the sci-fi element. The technologies in use in the show/game don't have to be real life ones, just vaguely linked to it. Perhaps that is why people like Walt have funky powers, because the introduction of an artificial chromosone (sp?).

6/10/2006 07:32:00 AM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Angry.
I had forgotten about the site http://www.bigspaceship1.org/.
How was it found? (is it in-game or not?) Sorry if this is already well known. And I am sorry but I do not know the link with TIME GOD.

6/10/2006 07:52:00 AM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

ok, I have had a lot to catch up on.

The first time line posted (frenchie's) mentioned Alvar Hanso's photo dated Oct 23 2003... but as was noted in the messageboard linked from this blog... that date is wrong as the same shot is in the Swan orientation film.

Yes Charles Widmore was Jim in Neighbours (and someone nasty in like the last XFiles, and he was in 24 too yes?). Farscape fans may also have noticed Scorpius as Isaac (plus someone else from Farscape as the coronor of Charlotte Malkin (who has also had a lot of roles on tv in Aus...))

There is no mention on lostpedia of Michael working for Widmore, I think that is a fan assumption.

Australian P... P Australian... Persephone is an Aussie?

the hole3 pics are mentioned on hanso walkthru as clue 9, but no mention of hole2

Gah! There was something else and now I have forgotten it!!!

6/10/2006 09:33:00 AM  
Blogger Soulfull said...

Congrats on becoming a blog of note and what a concept for a blog!! :)

6/10/2006 09:39:00 AM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

oh that's right... missing father... Aaron's dad is out of the picture, and for some reason I have it in my head that she was on the Pill and so shouldn't have got pregnant. Really must go back and check that

6/10/2006 09:40:00 AM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

In check up on Sayid I finally found something that I remembered in chatting with my sister a few nights back. And how I found it I find totally funny... are there coincidences???

In first year university studying Communications (ie journalism and the like) I had to read a text on Orientalism and Others, searches yielded nothing I was certain was what I read, but I know I have found it know. Here is the wiki entry on Edward Said's "Orientalism"

6/10/2006 10:30:00 AM  
Blogger maven said...

Belly: I think you're totaly righton re whether a site is in or out-game. TPTB can't rely on us just stumbing across an in-game site. We must be led there either by Hanso commercials or specific clues on known in-game sites. The web is a vast universe and we must be directed to where we must go next. When someone "finds" a site based on googling a game "word" that can't really result in an in-game site, can it?

6/10/2006 12:06:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

brammers: I just got a "form letter" saying they are so overwhelmed by emails they don't know when they can answer them. I guess they are working on setting up the "research blogs". I assume they will email people who want to be on those when David returns from vacation. My request was on a different subject, so I guess I'll be "put on hold" for a while!

6/10/2006 12:14:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Thanks, Matt, for letting us know about this blog. I signed up! I've tried all the out-of-print and used book sites, but no one had it. I strongly believe (and hope) that someone will eventually come forward with the only remaining copy not bought up by THF. The think the Valenzetti Equation is an integral part of this game.

6/10/2006 12:20:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Does anyone have any ideas of ways to go the find "The Valenzetti Equation" book or the Equation itself? I tried searching the UN archives because it was mentioned somewhere that the Equation was commissioned by the UN after the Cuban Missile crisis and Valenzetti presented his equation a year later. I got nowhere, but any other ideas?

6/10/2006 12:45:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Yes, brammers: I agree. I think we should work on vex's blog and treat it like a "research" blog on the Valenzetti Equation. If we find anything of significance we can post it here. Do use in double posting in both places. Anyone with any thoughts or idea in how to pursue this come over to findvalenzetti.blogspot.com/.

6/10/2006 01:22:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Welcome, devondude! This is the best place for TLE. Everyone's so nice and knowledgeable. Real work gets done here. There is no Fibonacci Institute that I can find, but I believe you're right about the numbers in Da Vinci Code.

6/10/2006 02:11:00 PM  
Blogger Dr3dPir8 said...

Just a note before anyone gets too wound up on Valenzetti - to quote Wikipedia "The Valenzetti Equation about an equation derived by a fictional mathematician"

matt the pale (who I admire for doing this) plays the game "in character". That is to say, that he is playing within the alternate reality as if it were our current true reality. Just wanted to point this out to anyone who may be doing anything ...questionable to find out information on him.

Outside of the ARG - Equations such as this one are often called "Armageddon Equations" or a "Doomsday Argument". I think Frank J. Tipler and his work on "The Big Crunch" could be a point of research for one of these since (IMHO) they have leaned a tad more towards the side of pseudoscience with most of their materials.

6/10/2006 03:05:00 PM  
Blogger Dr3dPir8 said...

... and just to clarify (since I didn't state it in my last post): I like the idea of pushing THF for information and think that the Valenzetti Equation blog is a great idea.

6/10/2006 03:11:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

007: I'm just "playing along". TPTB must have someone out there with a copy of "The Valenzetti Equation" in the ARG world. It's up to us to find it!

6/10/2006 03:15:00 PM  
Blogger Dr3dPir8 said...

Maven: I agree that they have to have somthing that their running with on the Valenzetti stuff, and definitely think it should be pursued since it will most likely be important to the game/show. Outside of ARG, there appear to be several leads on these Doomsday equations. I'm working on putting together some mythology tie-ins this weekend, but once I finish that, I think I'm going to start down the road of Valenzetti-ish information.

matt: didn't mean to step on your toes on that one, but I had noticed the confusion on ITE and thought it should be mentioned.

6/10/2006 03:40:00 PM  
Blogger Dr3dPir8 said...

zky: I thought of this too, but don't remember seeing it mentioned. The Lost numbers aren't a Fibonacci sequence in themselves, so I don't think it will be pertinent. I do like to use a line I heard years ago that is "There's no such thing as too much information". So, if you find it relevant, interesting, or think it may become so, please post your thoughts. One thing I've noticed on this board is that nobody really balks at getting additional information.

6/10/2006 03:44:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

belly0fdesire said...
lena: odd t... i just saw that.... this = odd thomas, right? I loved that book.. it's prolly my fave of Koontz's... Did the end of the first one "get" you?... I didn't see it coming it all... I had my girlfriend listn to the audiobook and she knew right away what was up..

No, I didnt see it coming really! Was one of the most sad book endings ever! LOL

Well, this Koontz reference is NOT FOUNDED...but it eats at me that SO MANY of his stories are STRIKINGLY simpular to show/game. I ran into a charactor on the other blogsite and for several reasons, wandered if he had something to do with Koontz. Most likely not, but why not make sure right?

I realize Koontz really doent have any visiable association to the show/game but I just thought I would make a database type site to compare the simularities...I am almost done with it, will post it when finished.

6/10/2006 03:57:00 PM  
Blogger Dr3dPir8 said...

Okay... that's gotten me thinking: Valenzetti went to the institute of Fibonacci; Fibonacci's given name was Leonardo de Pisa; I had earlier looked into Leonardo de Vinci's Vetruvian man (which used the golden ratio); Leonardo Dicaprio won a Golen globes award in 2005; Dicaprio was in "The Departed" with Jack Nicholson; and Jack Nicholson was in "A Few Good Men" with KEVIN BACON...

That was just for fun...

6/10/2006 04:34:00 PM  
Blogger Brussels Tales said...

one of the dates from the end of Bad Twin was November 28, 2004, which I thought was interesting since "Gary Troup" wrote the book and the plane crashed on September 22, 2004...interesting that he "set" it in the future...

6/10/2006 05:30:00 PM  
Blogger Brussels Tales said...

Speaker also talked about the "VIK Institute" in his latest post...anyone heard of that before, or is that a new clue?

6/10/2006 05:31:00 PM  
Blogger Dr3dPir8 said...

raechel - the Nov. 28, 2005 date was even more interesting in the book since it referenced an actual event that occured on that date: the end of Scottish Feudalism... possibly just another production discrepency since he would not have been able to know that if he had written the book prior to Sept. 2005.

The Vik Institute is referenced in the MHA portion of Hanso's website. "Located outside the souther costal city of Vik, Iceland, the Vik Institute is nestled amongst the stark beauty of fjords and geothermal lakes. It is an unusual setting for a mental health clinic, but one whose natural beauty affords the maximum therapeutic benefit." -- from THF website.

6/10/2006 05:44:00 PM  
Blogger Brussels Tales said...

is the widmoregroup.com site "in game"?

6/10/2006 05:57:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

zky:
fibonacci numbers are just another pattern of numbers that crops up in everything we see/do like gematrian, Trick is to find how we can get them to work for us to find things out.

6/10/2006 06:04:00 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Great blog! Keep up the awesome work. I wouldn't be able to particiate in the "Lost Experience" without this community. I've been around for awhile but don't post much. Quite often it's too busy and experiencing technical difficulties or if I do get a post out here I don't get a response. Anyway, I noticed that neither timeline above includes the earlier podcasts from DJ Dan. There are four total...

5/16
5/26
6/1
6/8

Looking forward to the next clue!

6/10/2006 06:09:00 PM  
Blogger Brussels Tales said...

what does TPTD mean?

6/10/2006 06:14:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

belly0fdesire and anyone else following the Koontz talk...I have put together a bunch of stuff on my geocities site.

http://www.geocities.com/lenaw70/LOST.html

I would put that in a clickable form, but too lazy at this point LOL

This site is mainly for LOST ARG but has a major section on Koontz. I would love to get info about LOST on it from everyone from time to time.

6/10/2006 06:22:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

When you look at the source code for http://lxicon.com/hanso/alvarhanso.html at the end is the long string of numbers that can be translated backwards into a web url. Does anyone know the url? I have been looking but cannot find it. Any help is appreciated.

I just noticed that lxicon is in the url for this page. He is the guy who did all the official clues (but hole2) and how to get them. This guy - lxicon; who is he?
I can't help but feel he is official but when looking into him it doesn't seem like he is.(he has info on other sites which just seem like normal TLE sites).
If he isn't official then whay have Hanso latched onto him. The site came from the ROT site which is official. I know I have mentioned it before but the plot just thickened for me.

6/10/2006 06:24:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

raechel:

TPTB it should be. It means "The Powers That Be". The creators of the game.

6/10/2006 06:27:00 PM  
Blogger Brussels Tales said...

thanks wizardry! does anyone know if the widmoregroup.com site is "in game"?

6/10/2006 06:31:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Christine:

A worthy post indeed. I am not putting these dates together myself but those who are that have missed dates value this stuff. I actually can't wait to start analysing the date side of things. Still busy with other stuff though. Hard work this. Worth it though.

6/10/2006 06:33:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

6/10/2006 06:35:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

Yah wizardry, I am looking into DJDan podcast datelines...things in the podcast that aid in telling us when it ACTUALLY was aired.

6/10/2006 06:36:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

6/10/2006 06:36:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

Does anyone happen to have podcast from DJDan dates 5/16 and 6/8? I have the other two, but need those.

Lena

6/10/2006 06:38:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

I am sorry...I meant the TRANSCRIPTS!!

6/10/2006 06:39:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

I said

"widmoregroup.com:
It is not in-game as far as I am aware. And I feel pretty aware. It has been mentioned a few times and for a few reasons. Good to ask though."

I deleted it because after checking it is not the site I thought. I have come across it in this blog but I can't remember seeing conclusions. The key really is "how was the site found". If no link from an offical site/source then I cannot see it being in-game.

6/10/2006 06:40:00 PM  
Blogger Brussels Tales said...

ok thanks for the clarification wizardry! They put up an "interview" with Clifford Widmore, so i just thought i'd check, didn't know if it was another clue or something :-)

6/10/2006 06:44:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Hi Lena
Good to hear you are still on the case with the DJDan podcasts. I feel with you on the case something will more likely be found (no pressure likes). I think that there is definitely something funny going with the DJDan stuff and I think it is going to explode soon and would like to get as much info on this as possible. (Before the big thing happens and we are all going ooohhhhhhhhhh. So it is. Why did we not think of that sort of thing etc).
I haven't heard the first podcast. Do you have a link to somewhere?

6/10/2006 06:47:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Oh and hubby of lena too. Sorry. I meant to put it. Great team.

6/10/2006 06:55:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

And I also like the DJDan twist because it is about as in-game as you can get. If he is linked to persephone somehow it answers a lot of questions for me and would be the first time that a culmination of points would have concluded a lot of clues for me.

6/10/2006 06:59:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

www.oceanic-air.com (the one with the seating chart of the plane in Lost) is down. Has this happened before. Does it mean anything?

6/10/2006 07:06:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

I was about to buy Bad Twin. Why does amazon uk say the book is not yet published. Is it because the series has not caught up yet. Just thought I would post "anything" unusual.

6/10/2006 07:10:00 PM  
Blogger Brussels Tales said...

random question - i've seen gary troupe's interviews (#s 1-6), but it says there are supposed to be 9, does anyone know where to find #s 7-9?

6/10/2006 07:27:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

Thanks so much for saying those nice things wizardry!! Hope we can live up to the compliments LOL!

I am on the DJDan thing right now. I listened to them all yeturday and found a few hints about timelines. Thats what got me thinking about it so much.

As fas as I know there were only 4 podcast right? If not someone tell me. I can hear all three of them on the DJDan website.

6/10/2006 07:29:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

raechel:

There are only 6 that I am awere of. I have a bunch of subscriptions to youtube users that post anything to do with LOST and havent seen anything new pop up as of yet...though I have a gut feeling thats about to change.

6/10/2006 07:31:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

Its not an error...thats my point ;)

6/10/2006 07:32:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Lena:
I am sure there are only 4 podcasts too. I have heard 2 3 and 4.

And hey, don't sweat it. You guys are worth it whether you find something or not. But you usually do.

6/10/2006 07:39:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

6/10/2006 07:44:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Lena:
I am sure there are only 4 podcasts x too. I have heard them 15 or 16 times. 23 and 4 that is. Just 2 clarify.

6/10/2006 07:47:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Sorry.
I noticed how similar the numbers in my previous post were to the numbers in Lost. I wondered how I coulde add to make the set. Just show how easy it is for coincidences to happen. "x too" means 4 x 2 therefore 8.
Sorry if this sucks.

6/10/2006 07:49:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

Thats JUST the motivation I needed to start transcribing the two podcast I dont have!!! :) THANKS SO MUCH!

I will be back...

Oh yah, I also went through the previous postings about the first podcast and there were SO MANY kick booty comments about it that just seem to have been forgotten about, so I will also be following up on those leads and making sure I give kudos to those who posted them!

IN THE MEAN TIME...IF ANYONE HAS THE 6/8 podcast transcribed PLEASE let me know!!!!!

6/10/2006 08:09:00 PM  
Blogger Brussels Tales said...

random comment, and i don't know exactly where to post this, so i'm just gonna put it here - P seems to be on the right track with her theory that Alvar Hanso doesn't exist any more...in "Bad Twin", the Widmores (Arthur and Cliff) are talking about their board meeting (towards the end of the book), and Arthur says something to the effect of "I don't like that Mittlework guy - I liked it better when Alvar was running things." (Sorry, I don't own the book, I just read it over multiple visits to Border's, hahaha), and Cliff says something to the effect of "You just liked Alvar because you two made lots of money together"...just thought it was interesting.

6/10/2006 08:15:00 PM  
Blogger Brussels Tales said...

more random thoughts...since Speaker referenced both the Vik Institute and "mental health" in his latest post, I was reading the page on THF website, and it dawned on me - what if the mental hospital that Hurley and Libby were in a hospital run by THF?

6/10/2006 08:32:00 PM  
Blogger Dr3dPir8 said...

lena - crossfade is right, and Antecedent posted a good transcript further up in this comments section. It is also at his blogspot --> http://biosurvivalticket.blogspot.com

6/10/2006 08:33:00 PM  
Blogger Brussels Tales said...

aw, be nice ;-)

6/10/2006 08:39:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

I NOW ABSOLUTELY KNOW WITHOUT A DOUBT THAT EITHER PERSEPHONE IS OR IS AT LEAST WORKING WITH DJDAN....I NOW HAVE PROOF.

Who can remind me of which hanso area has Peresphone saying "blah blah blah"?

I NEED THAT.

6/10/2006 09:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for the kind words on the findingvalenzetti blog.

6/10/2006 09:24:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

crossfade! THANKS! I just got that copy of the podcast from up above here!! I almost missed that! LOL

BTW...who is the one who started the time line? Sorry but my mind is all busy with the podcast research and I saw that someone is doing a time line. I want to know if they want to park it on my blog here? I have an email posted in it, so if you would like to send it all to me, I would be happy to put it in the blog and give that person the credit! It updates occure, I can tweek it to fit!

If you do send my emails to add to the blog (its the one in my profile) make SURE you put who you are in the subject field of that email, so I know to look at it and give propor credit!

6/10/2006 10:01:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

NEW timeline blog in my blogs on my profile!!! THANKS TO Maven1908!!!

Everyone feel free to comment or email me any changes that need to be made! I will make sure everyone gets the credit!

6/10/2006 11:10:00 PM  
Blogger Dr3dPir8 said...

aylakat - the dharmaindustries.com site is currently thought of as out of game. If you check the disclaimer, there are multiple gramatical errors and the "Pre-membership card" link takes you to a Paypal site that is looking for a $30.00 payment. These, along with not being directed to the site by and in-game means, makes us believe it is not in-game. IMHO - this is someone's attempt to profit from the Lost Experience's popularity.

6/10/2006 11:16:00 PM  
Blogger Dr3dPir8 said...

FYI... new anagram on Speaker's away message: "ANN AMONG A RAT"

Aaron - thx, and likewise. Hope everything is smoothing out for you.

6/10/2006 11:21:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

IS IT MATT'S BIRTHDAY???????? Oh man!!! I didnt even know!!! I am so stuck in my own line of thought today, so very LOST LOL...

I know this is the wrong thread but anyone got theories on the DJDan stuff...please share...I am hellbent to get this figured out! ;)

6/10/2006 11:21:00 PM  
Blogger Dr3dPir8 said...

Never mind about Speaker away message...
"ANN AMONG A RAT" = "Not an anagram"

6/10/2006 11:22:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

Aaron aka SRJanit0r...THANKS TOO!

Have a good night!

6/10/2006 11:23:00 PM  
Blogger Rockman9045 said...

This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

6/11/2006 12:37:00 AM  
Blogger Dr3dPir8 said...

chaos - this was a reference to a website (retrieversoftruth.com) which led us to the IGA clue. If you check in clue #49, you can see what was found on it. If you can find any significance that we have over looked. Please let us know...

I'm off for the night, so I leave with this:
“Quotation is a serviceable substitute for wit.” -Oscar Wilde

6/11/2006 01:24:00 AM  
Blogger Unknown said...

base64 =

The text seemed meaningless but I'm no pro at this. Just using a translator. The blog won't allow me to post it. It says "These characters are not allowed: control-A".

Binary

00001001 00110001 11010100 00101101 01000001 01000111 01001100 00000001 10001101

Hex

09 31 d4 2d 41 47 4c 01 8d

DEC/CHAR

9 49 212 45 65 71 76 1 141

6/11/2006 12:35:00 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Brammers... In the beginning I was able to find clues on my own. Now, I really don't know what is a clue and what isn't. I started to wonder why "The Speaker" is putting these out there if they are pointless. To toy with us?

Matt... what you have posted is intriguing. I'm not sure what to make of it though.

6/11/2006 01:27:00 PM  
Blogger k.barrick said...

Um, this is just 'cause you guys and gals are the people I've been chatting with most of the summer so... you're my peers here.

I do an internet radio show on Sundays. It's a comedy show: Bits from comedians' albums and music.

It's from 5-6 Central time tonight. FreeRadioSAIC.org

I'd appreciate it if any of you gave it a chance. There's a chat window and interaction, etc. Pretty good time.

Grand National Championship from 5-6 tonight at www.freeradiosaic.org

6/11/2006 02:10:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Following on from what lena, others and I were saying about DJDan podcasts and DJDan.

I had said that I could not find the first podcast of his. I had actually heard it but forgot that the 2nd was found on sublymonal.com after typing 108. Does anyone know where I can find it to download? I thought the obvious place would be DJDans site but it just links to sublymonal. (interesting that the last podcast links to another site http://podcast.monster.com/archives/djdan/ but I can't find the podcast there. I have it though so doesn't matter.Also I noticed that the latest two had comments in hexadecimal (right click file, click properties then summary and see in the comments section. I haven't seen that mentioned.

Podcast 3 summary:
000001B5 00000027 00007056 0000210A 0003C3D8 0003DED8 0000746E 00006CB9 0003DBF0 0003CDE0

Podcast 4 summary:
0000035D 0000002F 0001D2E1 000039B2 00028578 000403F8 00008466 00008645 0003E220 00028548

I tried in a hex to text converter but got nothing. Anyone know what it is?

The first podcast did not have any comments and the second I couldn't download.

The filenames I have for the podcasts are:
a.mp3
DJDan6-01.mp3
GeneticEngineering_Monster.mp3

I feel I need a few gaps filled before giving this DJDan stuff some serious work.

6/11/2006 04:14:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

Sorry if any of the above post has already come up.

6/11/2006 04:15:00 PM  
Blogger k.barrick said...

Oh, I'm a total idiot....

My show's on from 8 pm till 9 pm EASTERN standard time.

8-9pm.

Grand National Championship on freeradiosaic.org

8 until 9 tonight. Internet radio.

The ONLY good thing about realizing I'm an idiot is that I can watch more eps from Season 1 before the show.

::slapping myself silly::

6/11/2006 04:19:00 PM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

so the Speaker said "ANN AMONG A RAT" (which was an anagram of "not an anagram") and then "CTHULU FHTAGN" which wasn't an anagram. Still reading about Cthulhu

6/11/2006 04:21:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

morgana

I do not recall ever seeing if widmoregroup.com has been proved to not be in-game but the reality is that anyone can make a website. The key point is how was the site found. If it came from a link within an official source then I guess it is in-game but if not and it has just been found by googling etc then I would suggest that although not proven to not be in game, it would seem a little fruitless to put a lot of effort into it when I and others feel in all likelyhood, if a site was to be explored for clues then some clue or other would take us there first.

Still though. I have an open mind to the possibility of various sites being in-game that have not proved to be so it wouldn't be impossible.

Hope that helps.

6/11/2006 04:22:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

moxy29. I noticed too about oceanic-air.com being down. Nobody responded but I guess no-one knows. We will just have to keep an eye on it.

6/11/2006 04:24:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

All:

Yes. Speakers seems to be playing us for fools but you never know.

6/11/2006 04:28:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

Hi everyone! I am going to be posting all four transcribed podcast of DJDan on my blog (in my profile) I have no problems with using this blog for data collecting...and having others join in as members to aid in updates!

I would love to make sure everyone gets the credits for what the submit if they want as well.

Just click on my picture and in my profile there are blogs. Not sure yet how someone becomes a member other then me emailing them...so if someone knows how, let me know. I just started getting into this blogsite, so not real great at the features just yet.

6/11/2006 04:37:00 PM  

Post a Comment

<< Home