Lost Experience Podcast Episode 7
Real life, Act 2 and Beyond, SitonaMonkey, Speaker Speaks?, and some special ICING on the cake at the end! We're shorthanded this week and our audio quality always suffers when William's gone. Bear with our best efforts, remember it is for free and for fun, and enjoy the goodness that is podcasting!
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192 Comments:
top ten, wow.
NUMBER 10!!! WOO HOO!! GOOD ENOUGH!
Nice. Straight to my iPod it goes.
But seriously, these things aren't long enough. I don't understand why you guys have a 30-minute limit. To be perfectly honest, I think you guys should jsut go on for as long as you'd like.
good podcast. but it was 25 minutes too short.
I am a first-time poster, long-time lurker...I have read several postings with confusion over how the show is taking place in 2004, but the game is taking place in 2006....now that fact was mentioned on the podcast.
However, oceanicflight815.com showed a baggage claim ticket for Jack Shephard dated Sept. 21, 2009. Which would clarify all of this...the show is taking place three years in the future...my guess is that they are planning the show's "arc" to end about then, and this game is a prequel to the events of the show.
I can't get oceanicflight815 to come up, but here's an article in USAToday.com alluding to that fact: http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2006-05-09-lost_x.htm
Check out the Time-space continuum bulletpoint for the reference.
Arguments, comments, criticims?
Good podcast, guys. We have to keep things in perspective. This is so easy to get sucked into.
I enjoyed this podcast, but yeah... you could have covered more so I'm all for longer podcasts if you guys can manage it :-D
I don't think gatekeepa (which i had always taken as "gate keeper") did the banner on the LIE... can't remember who it was now. I know keepa is a Kiwi, pretty sure he's still in NZ
anyone, anyone? Was that just a really stupid idea that had already been addressed a million times?
acts4food: Are you talking about Lostpedia? I can't access it, either.
maven...we were talking about oceanicflight815.com...per my post five or six up...
Great podcast guys! My only complaint: not nearly enough sound effects. I know your "audio guy" was out of pocket, so I'll let it slide this week...
As sad as it makes me to say it, I don't believe we'll see RB making to the island next season. I just don't see TPTB stretching the audience so far as to go all "time travel" on our Joop-lovin' buttocks.
'night everybody.
Well, I can't get on to The Lost Experience Clues @ Lostpedia. Anybody else?
Thanks, shrodes. Sometimes you wonder if it's only you!
winston_wolfe,
appreciate the sentiment but we really do understand why people were frustrated and feel like any conflict has been diffused with good communication and honesty.
hansoz,
the content was AWESOME this week in the ARG and we did skip a lot of stuff in the podcast because I simply didn't feel confident handling the material yet b/c it was all still very fresh in my mind. Remember I just got back in from New Orleans TODAY and am operating on less-than-optimal sleep. I guess I would rather not risk making stupid mistakes about something that I'm not clear on.
One thing I'm clear on...the latest 3 layers of info form richerdeeperbroader is AWESOME!
Go to sleep, Admin!
Sean, mstk, & Co,
You guys crack me up! I don't see why anyone would listen to these things in the first place, let alone ask (even petition) that they be longer! We really do work hard to only say insightful, necessary, or simply entertaining things on the podcast. Without repeating info from the blog, its a challenge to come up with content that fits those criteria. Adding more time = adding more work to our already burdensome workload. I'll take it as a compliment and will continue to be amused and humbled by your requests.
Maven,
My wife has 2 of her best friends in town and they're watching wedding videos. I'm up as long as they are...
WHO is the BEST video/imaging person on our crew????????????
I NEED HELP BAD!
video/images...need someone who knows their stuff!!
Lisa,
Just saw your email. That is a good thought and it could be a possibility. I think it has been addressed elsewhere but I can't find where exactly. It would really help with our time problems if we want this to tie into the show chronologically.
IM me settern...
lenaw70 just need some real good advice on something, BUT HAS TO BE PRIVATE for now. If its what we think, you will get credit for help.
oh, its yahoo oops LOL if not yahoo
tell me what ya have
sorry I am not commenting on the podcast David...while listening, it took a poopoo on me...have to finish it in a few!! So far so good though!
which one settern? I have three different IM's LOL
settern...thanks for the response. Someone at Inside the Experience already reminded me of that fact...which seems to debunk this theory. But it still seems odd to me that ABC would make an error of that magnitude, how could you get the YEAR wrong on the site? Like the whole deal with the islands, I get the impression that when we THINK they are making a mistake they are actually just making things a little more challenging to figure out.
Just a thought. Who knows!!
Oh ok, i am lostteamlena in AIM
LOL omniscient!!!
TeamLena,
Just emailed you guys.
Kinetic,
I'd love to hear more too. I skipped Social Engineering 101 in college and opted for the 300 level Exercise Physiology course. For some reason, I thought advanced Ultimate Frisbee would pay off...
But don't you think, from a writer's perspective, that it is a better choice to start the game with a hacker? More mysterious...and then bring that hacker, whom you have formed a bond with, to life for your audience.
She started with small suspicions and gave us all the info she had as an employee as she happend upon it. As her suspicions grew, she grew from an inquisitive employee to an investigative skeptic. Then she had to quit in order to be free to follow execs and the like around the globe.
She was probably trained to be computer saavy but never had any experience in gathering. Probably didn't make a living as a professional hacker.
I don't know why I'm taking a stand like this. It has just been my gut from the beginning. I think the writers could probably figure out a way to explain it and make it work either way. As an audience member, I would prefer to see Rache = Persephone. In the same way I want to see Charlie good and with Claire.
I haven't done enough market research on myself to know why...but I know that's what I'd prefer to see happen.
Dudes, thanks so much for playing my song! Great podcast, nice reminder in the beginning.
I have to put you straight though, it was DeDJeZTeR who put the banner up over the expressway.
imaroundthefur,
3. I think BLOOD and the red letters were enough to lead us to the other two. I was here when Dennis & BellyOfDesire solved it...it took no time at all. Surely they would not have posted those if they wanted us to wait for Friday and Sat. TPTB should know that people will solve quickly and by any and all means available...in this case, guessing and clever deduction.
david, are you interested? its ok if its too late to bother, i can fill ya in later.
if you want to know:
AIM: lostteamlena
yahoo: lenaw70
Does anyone else think that Rachel Blake will show up at ComicCon? There's supposed to be something from Hanso there and it would be interesting if they acted out a big ordeal. Just a thought.
kepa,
I knew it! Right after I had finished the podcast, I knew that I had screwed that up. I'm so sorry. I gave him props last time though.
winston_wolfe...
nobody says. that would also be a great way to allow Michael & Walt to believably continue. Since Walt is becoming the pubescent "baller" like we heard on the Official podcast.
Now you've got my hopes up wolfe.
No elbows to be thrown to the good guys. Everyone involved, I considered a "friend" before the issue arose. Friends fight sometimes but then they work it out and remember again why they connected in the first place.
Don't worry, if someone messes with us, we'll defend ourselves. (I deleted some posts earlier and everyone else did a good job of ignoring)
Wait. Speaker listened to the podcast and already responded. Where? Wow. That's cool.
Daniel set up the interview, you'll have to ask him about the validity of Speaker's voice. It sounded kinda modified to me :)
hansoz, there will be another podcast but it will be late again. Late Thurs night or Friday...most likely scenarios.
Admin, how coud you get that wrong... you had to have made even a mental note to yourselves to get it right in the last podcast, then you got it wrong this time around. I'm not mad, like you said you gave me the right props last time... lol
Okay now the comments.
Oh, gahd the phone call was hard to listen to again... good laughs ... but brutal on the ears.
Am I wrong or wasn't the "I have always worked for criminals" quote supposed to be from Mittlewerk, speaking as THF's lawyer.
Also, there is no real confirmation that the woman on the phone call was Persephone, it might have been Rachel's voice in the phonecall, and it might have been put there by Persephone, but that gives no validation to the idea that Rachel/Persephone are one in the same. IMHO.
Also,
Kepa... how much does it cost to fly to New York, travel to Long Island, put up a banner, travel back to the airport and fly back to New Zealand... and how long did it take... lol
I don't mind I got an A+ in sharing way back in preschool... lol
"I work for criminals. Always have, always will." That was from Persephone's hack on Peter Thompson's biography, which might refer more to Thompson then Persephone.
I can see how P=RB, technically, but doesn't it seem like to anyone else that Persephone actually "knows" more than Rachel? I got the impression that Persephone knows about the island (from the hidden clues on THF.org, etc.) and it seems like Rachel is just finding out things that Persephone already knows about.
Someone correct me if I am way off base.
I saw that thing on Dj Dan's site. I wonder if THF.org is going to be coming back up soon ...
Oh - good thought. I bet it will have something to do with the new podcast - I didn't realize it was 6/30 already!
I don't think DJDan would crazy enough to imbed his next podcast in the THF.org source code. I think he's a LITTLE smarter then that.
just listened to the podcast about "balancing personal time" etc .. have to say that i agree ... this is a really fun game but freaking exhausting, hours a day if you really want to keep up ... ive got to drop out of this thing, i try to keep up but I have a job and a family blah blah nad its frustrating trying to find the time to keep up with all this .. i guess if it wasnt as intense as it is it wouldnt be as fun but wtf? dont you guys have jobs families relationships etc too? anyway it was fun but im out
You're right there. What better way to get back at them for threatening him? Then again this could piss THF off to the point where they actually try to silence him.
hey did you guys notice that mandrake wig is an anagram for waking dream.... is this a clue
Christy -
I'm with you. Persephone seems to be much more in the know than Rachel. I just don't buy them as the same person. Rachel seems to be a lot more reckless than P was.
Morning all! I see things are back to normal...great podcast. I listend to it before work, got up a little early just to hear it!!
Tommie boy in our sites!!!
Why is Lostpedia down? Was it SHUTDOWN!!! Like Savejoop.com?
How do you guys figure out these anagrams?
Hey - mandrake wig has a new photo on Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/photos/mandrakewig/178371969/
It's a picture of Wally Bole holding a pie and Mandrake is peeking in the background.
The caption says "Get a clue: Direct observation or participation?"
Even if it doesn't mean anything it is pretty funny.
Ok - I did a little googling and included in the definition of the word "experience" is "direct observation or participation"
Have you noticed in all the pics of Wally, his HANDS are concealed or covered? I wonder if Wally has "pause" for concern? LOL
ha! that's funny! i also noticed that both wall and mandrake have the same facial expression all the time. how weird! :)
All the Wally pics, except for this one...
http://usera.imagecave.com/thinbluemime/VincentWallyBole_resize.jpg
fit66 - I emailed Dan asking how I can order one, no reply... =(
Wally having Paws. That's kinda cool!
Great podcast! and the guy who wrote that song pwns life! hahaha I just had me a huge LMAOnase sandwich. great job
I got a new mesage from Manny. nothing revealing. I wrote:
WHo is in buenos aires? or who is going to BA? Why are you obsessed with blue?
Mandrake wrote back:
the nazis are in BA.
dunno... yet
You'll see.
maybe more to come
Damon just called, and said Hanso was going to sue me unless I changed my nic to "thin-RED-mime" -wink-
devondude said...
I just spotted that the sublymonal prompt box spells LYMON no matter what u type in. D'oh!
You know what's funny...When I first saw this, the first thing I typed in was Lymon. I didn't realize you could only type in Lymon until later.
This is a bit late but...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v301/kimsphotos/lost/lostpic3.jpg
lisa said...
However, oceanicflight815.com showed a baggage claim ticket for Jack Shephard dated Sept. 21, 2009.
...
I can't get oceanicflight815 to come up
I found an archive screen shot of the luggage tag: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v301/kimsphotos/lost/lostpic3.jpg
It's is definitely dated 09 (although the 9 doesn't quite line up with everthing else...)
Maybe this is Jack's return trip from the island? I doubt hoever that he would fly Oceanic Air, even if there were back in business.
Podcast Comment
Given the requirement that you don't want to cover what is already on the blog, I think you had a good podcast, especially about Act 3. The fake interview was funny, however... It seems that it must take a lot of time to put the fake interviews together. Considering the "burdensome workload" you are under, they don't really add much to the discussion, except for a little comic relief.
I might suggest that you move the podcast to Mondays. Seeing as clues are now coming out Friday night (and possible Saturday), it would be nice to hear a weekly summary of what happened, with your analysis of what you think about the clues, etc.
has anyone been to Rachel's myspace page? is it in game?
Another photo on Mandrake's flickr page - it looks like he is revealing the RGB clues you guys got on here last night.
Settern said...
Do australians write the year before the day and the month? I mean, I've heard of day/month/year, and month/day/year, but never year/month/day...
I don't know about Australians, but I write dates that way all the time, especially with files names - it makes them easier to sort chronologically.
Marci said...
About Jack's luggage tag: I noticed that too, but I thought it just meant that September is the ninth month.
September = 9th month makes the most sense.
BTW...
There are TWO new photos up at http://www.flickr.com/photos/mandrakewig.
There is a picture of a car on the grass with the caption "Green like MONEY"
...I guess we did get the clues early :)
Ok, to the admins, I can't really email right now but I can say this, I know that the beginning of the podcast excerpt about the person who has to leave work when the clues come and has to catchup for 3 hours the next morning was from me. And, let me reassure you, I work in an office in front of a computer. I answer the phones and do bills and I am a multi tasker. HOWEVER, I have been known to be a large exagerate-er. While I do love this game and it's fun and all, don't worry. I definitely have a life outside of this game and I can make it through the weekend without having to come to the office to check in on the game. I get my work done and the office has been a little bit slower than normal. No worries about my work ok?
So, just for clarification, I do have a life but I was kinda freaking out because I knew you were just about reading my previous posts word for word. Thanks! You guys are cool and I'm glad you cleared the whole savejoop issue up for me. I GREATLY appreciate that and the work you do for all of us.
I tried EXPERIENCE as the next word, but no luck...
http://richerdeeperbroader.com/welcome/your/next/video/??
Any other ideas for "Get a clue: Direct observation or participation?"
Am I an idiot? Rachel's blog...was 01.53 P.S. ROT always there at the bottom of her Iceland post 02 yesterday?
Administrator said...
Am I an idiot? Rachel's blog...was 01.53 P.S. ROT always there at the bottom of her Iceland post 02 yesterday?
No that was added some time yesterday....look in the last clue's comments...
Settern said...
The september thing does make sense, though I don't know why they'd write SEPT right after 09. ;)
It makes it easier to say and enter in to a computer at the same time.
If you tell me the month is 09... i have to think for a second uh... September? Sad, but true. Same thing the other way July is, uh ... 07?
I think the main thing is that I'm sure that 09 is not the year on the tag. So we are good on the time-line.
admin:
wouldn't that have been added at 1:53 am, Rachel time? it wasn't there at 5:00 pm (17.00) Central Daylight Time.
posted this in clue #65 comments, but it looks like everyone has moved over here:
So, let's do a quick "What do we really know?" after this revelation.
1. Mittelwerk commisioned a ship that is special in a way that prevents it from docking in just any port.
2. Mittelwerk told Paik he has a port that ship can dock in.
3. Mittelwerk had unmarked maps of islands in Lake Superior drawn up by the Copenhagen Cartographical Society.
4. Rachel told us thes Lake Superior islands are not the ones we are looking for. The island we are looking for is on/near the equator.
5. Mittelwerk drafted a letter on June 26 to his "team" stating that after careful scrutiny, sites alpha, beta and delta are rejected (presumably leaving site gamma) and that the site is a THF owned island not used in some time. (since the DHARMA initiative?)
6. This (gamma?) site will be used to carry out the "SPIDER PROTOCOL"
7. Mittelwerk is "reticent" about going back to the island but notes that it's "unique properties" will suit the project adequately.
8. I know this is getting awesome.
we need a word for YELLOW!! The letters are the primary colors. look at the photos on flickr. blue, green, yellow (cab, flowers, new truck pic, the moon thingy) not much red but there is some. So who knows things that are YELLOW? Maybe this will fill in the blanks in the memo
oxillini: Great summary. You've got it! And it is awesome that the LOST island is coming into play!
OMG Rachel and Persephone sound exactly the same... are they sister??
ooops... I mean sisters!??
Please post a transcript!!! I hate not having speakers!!!
I could never keep up with all the clues & links, if you guys-gals didn't post such good info...THANKS to All!! :)
Great Settern!! Cannot wait!!!
Podcast comment ^_^
after listerning to the podcast theorys i kinda disagree with the theorys about how the game will finish
sorry for the large post
(act 2 end of)
The show and the game seem the same in the way they write the characters giving them dark pasts etc so im guessing by the end of act 2 we will find out why Rachel/Persephone (same person or sisters) are going against the Hanso foundation.
In many posts other characters have asked why Rachel is after hanso but shes kept silent about it, could be related to a parent problems like lost characters.
(how the game will connect with the show)
Also i dont think rachel will appear in the show because if she was they would of hired a better acter, im not saying she's terrible but compared to the other acters on lost shes not as good. I think somehow it'll connect through alvar hanso or the hanso family so:
1)We will find alvar in the last game act and he will talk about the island and how it was found by magnus hanso, this will link into the others on lost and the islands history
2)or we will find out hanso is hiding on the island but not know where.
i agree that the foundation will get to Rachel at the end of this act tho after she gives away about her past.
Brand New Rachel post up!!!
Admins, RE: Clue Update
What sprite ad are you referring to? The everything-I-type-is-Lymon banner? That ad has been on his site for weeks.
DJ Dan podcast... awesome.
DJ Dan's Podcast section has been updated as well. I guess it just just figured out backwards!!
"...has the term "core group" been used before?
"This is an esoteric connection, but note that the Core is the Greek
Goddess Kore (another name for Persephone, alongside Hecate queen of
the underworld), whose symbol was the apple"
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.tv.lost/msg/2b772b6fa4b3e1e2
Rick said...
She knows how "in love" DJ Dan is with Persephone...
He said he was in forbidden love with Rachel Blake in the last podcast...
we need something YELLOW, read the letter from Bole, he talks about, buttercream, yellow lab and the name of the river in Switzerland is Bien Ecouter, meaing "listen well" pay attention. anybody care to go this way with me?
uncle: i thought we had all three parts of the letter. why are we looking for something yellow?
I don't know the letter just seems full of holes. And it is logical to me since there are references to yellow in the letter, at flickr in the images, the other colors are primary colors and yellow is missing. Soory if I'm detracting from the conversation. I'll keep at it though, I would like to be right about something, but I doubt it.
Matt, no, from your most excellent work with the blood-money-sorrow pics.
Stay with us!!!!!
alt.tv.lost
google groups
tdciago mythology threads
"tdciago" does not visit here, but she is brilliant, and has explored the Lost-Greek mythology connections
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.tv.lost
Uncle Diavolo...
It seem like there should be something to do with yellow...
There are two definition that seem to fit:
Meaning #4: typical of tabloids, i.e. Yellow Journalism, scandalmongering, sensationalistic
Meaning #6: cowardly or treacherous
I tried: chicken, coward, cowardly, craven, dastardly, gutless, afraid, slander, libel, lies...
/got nothin...
Well done lhorse007!
So now we have:
http://richerdeeperbroader.com/welcome/your/next/video/needs/your/experiences/
what's next?
@pinger
not sure, swiss cheese maybe, cheese is yellow but I already tried that and swiss cheese is white. circles circles
guys whats the password to put into the sublymonal ad on djdans website?
I'm going to Switzerland in 4 weeks, I'll check when I'm there LOL!
RACHEL updated!
I am brainstorming yellow
anagram
Bole with pie=OH I WEPT BILE
Is this a Clue to lead us to a Clue?
Welcome/your/next/video/needs/your/experiences/
On the http://richerdeeperbroader.com/ site, one of the links is "Experience Movies".
The Experience Movies section give you:
http://www.verizonbroadbandfilms.com/
Has this section been checked lately?
@shaky
oh ok on the yellow I'm an idiot, Yellow +blue=green so I don't know what I'm talking about, dang, I thought I may have been on to something, oh well
Mandrake Wig - I'm got a chip
http://users.newblog.com/thinbluemime/?post_id=6233
@belly
what do you mean 1/2 at a time? where are the two halves RoT and.....?
the last clue is experiences, but what do you do with that crap?
BTW, RachelBlake.com is being continuously updated every few minutes (her conversation with GidgetGirl)...
Looks like we are going to Italy..!
holy crap, rachel, make sure you visit the leaning tower... didn t you hear the hanso foundation is responsible for it leaning over????
If there was any doubt the Persephone & Rachel are the same person, there isn't now.
ok ok but what about the rot clues fro richerdeeperbroader?
I think the third act is going to start at comic con. Cuse and lidenolf said they were going to be making a statement, and i think thats going to kick off the third act.
I think rachel is going to be kidnaped or killed and we will have to track down where she is, or who killed her. They said at the begaining that there would be real time events, so i think thats going to happen in the third act.
From the Fire in your belly!!
Sounds like a shout out to BellyOfDesire!!!
Matt - I thought the same thing you did, Valenzetti is alive, how old would he be? Assuming he did not find a way to stay young, D20? He was a fresh graduate in 1963, he would be like 24, so he would be around 67 or so...it is feasible right?
did anyone get the spanish part of the DJ Dan podcast yet?
oh well, anyone feel like PIZZA!
well, i was just going to write it out so it could be included in the transcripts, but if it's been done already then i won't repeat
Now, first off... in case you're wondering, in case you hadn't figured it out already -- yeah, that was me who called in to DJ Dan's show.
I'M PERSEPHONE.
It is now put to bed!!
pues, eeeh, quiza me puedes coger la corriente y.... uuuh decir me lo que estas, uuuuh lo que tienes puesto, por favor?
translation: well, eeeh, maybe you can go along with me and... uhhh tell me what you're, uuuuh what you're wearing, please?
"go along with me" isn't exactly what it would be in english but it's the best i can come up with so far.
Does anybody think there is any significance to the pictures on Manny's flickr page being in a different order today that yesterday?
Uncle Diavolo said...
Does anybody think there is any significance to the pictures on Manny's flickr page being in a different order today that yesterday?
No, I don't think so. I think the two new ones have pushed down the old ones.
i'm thinking "go along with me" might sound better "play along..." it's hard to do literal translations sometimes. you have to find the right wording that really captures the meaning in the opposite language.
@Dennis
yeah it may have pushed them down but the last row used to be:
Australian Airlines
chairs
author of the tango song caminito
Now it is:
chairs
author of the tango song caminito
Australian Airlines
It may be insignificant though
Ayla is the main character in the book series THE EARTHS CHILDREN
It starts out with clan of the cave bear
BEST DJ DAN PODCAST EVER!
they were written by JEAN AUEL
Well looks like TPTB decided to settle the Rachel=Persephone question once and for all. I suspect they thought they settled it with the wtk chat revelation, but the arg community didn't buy it 100%.
LHorse007 said...
I just read the rest of Rachel's post that she updated a moment ago, and my dreams are dead. She said: I'M PERSEPHONE.
Where does it say that?
Let's keep disbelieving the Rachel=Persephone thing and see if ABC will take out a full page ad in USA Today that says, "RACHEL IS PERSEPHONE! p.s. watch ABC"
perhaps we could start a "Tell us who Persephone really is" petition.
Thanks lhorse007. I didn't think to look at the "old" post.
It's kind of wierd how the conversation is posted seperate and not quoted in the Iceland 03 post.
She is on the move!! She has to act fast!! Nothing odd to me!!!
check out the update on iceland 003 she says yes i am persephone guys!
my neck hurts, good luck guys ill check back later for updates... namaste
Bare with me for a second, okay?
The Lost Experience is from Lost
Lost is on ABC
ABC is owned by Disney
Disney is an evil corporation much like The Hanso Foundation!
Alvar Hanso = Walt Disney
We are doing their research, Disney is looking for Walt Disney...he is alive!!
Okay, seeing it in type means I am a crack pot!!
Dyslexics Untie!
Conspiripies Unite!
http://www.retrieversoftruth.com/users/BroadBandBeatnik/htdocs/audio/MathematicalForecasting.mp3
lostmyshape: I'm with ya! What does she mean what happens when it stops? Ummmm, nothing! Nothing happened before the equation was developed, now did it? I wonder if TPTB failed math in college.
Michael Eisner = Thomas Mittelwerk
Perhaps TPTB are pulling alot of plot lines from fact.
It has just been eating at me.
Especially with the little boy that died at MGM. He had a heart defect??? Seems fabricated to me.
Who knows!
drpunkass - Don't let nocturnal enuresis stop you!
What is Nocturnal Enuresis?
And yes you are now famous on my research blog!
Down with Mickey! Save Joop!
lostmyshape: Yes, it was strange the way she described it. I think she got confused or something by thinking the savants were working non-stop on this equation. She probably thought that if they stopped something will happen. In truth, they were working around-the-clock on it because THF were taskmasters working all the time to try and figure out the equation.
Do you guys think there's any possibility that Alvar=Enzo?
Robots are working non-stop to build Toyota Camry's. What will happen when they stop?!?
LOL Belly...I cannot spell either!!!
Late last night
I heard the screen door slam
And a big yellow taxi
Took away my old man
Dont it always seem to go
That you dont know what youve got
Till its gone
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot
oxillini said...
Robots are working non-stop to build Toyota Camry's. What will happen when they stop?!?
American cars can start to be number one in sales!!
idahogirl: Great thoughts on where we were, where we are and where we're going! TPTB always leave us guessing, so I agree that TLE won't have a definitive ending perse, and will somehow meld into the show leaving many unanswered questions!
Re: Why is Mittelwerk going to San Remo when Valenzetti was born in Sardinia? Looking at the map of Italy, San Remo is on the Italian coast and Sardinia is an ISLAND south of it. Maybe there are not direct flights to Sardinia?
The new podcast features Rachel Blake...and confirms that she's Persephone!
http://www.retrieversoftruth.com/users/BroadBandBeatnik/htdocs/audio/MathematicalForecasting.mp3
sarashaila - you're from Spain? humor me is a good translation... and I think you mean seducing.. he's trying to seduce Rachel/Persephone? hmmm....
ShazzyJazzy - Glad I am not the only one the men in white coats and Mickey ears will be coming for...
Idaho Girl - Great synopsis of past, present and future!
Idaho Girl said...
I'm still waiting for The Black Rock to show up in the new Pirates of the Carribean movie next week.
Oooooh, what role will Keira Knightley play in the ARG?
New Rachel and GidgetGirl conversation on Rach's blog also...she's heading off for the Italian Riviera Sanremo. Interesting stuff today.
Buenos Aires
pingerficker: I'm not complaining about "unanswered questions". Some of my friends are so frustrated about LOST, they've given up, BUT NOT ME! I love how this ARG and the show keep drawing you in and making you think. If we were given all the answers, this would all be over!
Can anyone familiar with Italy's Riveria area explain why Mittelwerk is going to San Remo and not Sardinia (where we thought Valenzetti was from)?
Maven: perhaps someone will have an answer to your question. I, however, smell another, "Oh, those aren't the right islands in Lake Superior" type response coming.
Maven - I am looking, being a travel agent I should be able to figure it out, more to come!
completely off topic, but is anyone watching the Italia/Ukraine game, because it's a great match! VIVA ITALIA!!!
San Remo is wine country, maybe he wants some good wine...
Well, Sardinia was supposedly where Enzo was born (in the 1920's) and where he was from.
Well, when they start Season 3 two years could have gone by. And they'd be caught up with TLE. Anything is possible in TV land.
maybe Mittelwork knows that Valenzetti is actually ALIVE, and he's IN San Remo...because based on R's blog, he didn't die, he disappeared. Mayeb he was last seen in San Remo. I love that the Italia world cup match is coinciding with this quest to San Remo...seems appropriate.
nevermind...R said he was born in Sanremo, not Sardinia...and that's where he was living before he got on that plane.
http://www.retrieversoftruth.com/users/BroadBandBeatnik/htdocs/audio/MathematicalForecasting.mp3
the podcast
According to this website, Enzo was born in the 1920's on the island of Sardinia. According to Dan's caller he was lost in a plane he was piloting between Naples to Paris. So why San Remo? Unless there's no direct flights from Iceland to Sardenia (I think Thrasher is checking into that).
http://watermarkcommunity2.org/files/student_valenzetti.pdf
most of the time to get to Sardenia you have to fly into the mainland (Italy) and then take a boat over...
Also, Sanremo is between Naples and Paris...not the most direct route, but it's possible he flew over Sanremo and that's where he ended up...
if Enzo was born in Sardinia, then SOMEONE has the wrong info, because RB has said he's from San Remo...
Also, is there any possibility that Enzo Valenzetti IS Alvar Hanso?
Rachel... please stay on topic...
PLEASE NO WORLD CUP SPOLIERS!!!
I'm at work and i'm planning on watching the game when I get home.
I cannot wait for Pirates either. Idaho, you seem like a big fan too, you reference it a lot. Dramateach, what were you saying about the core pirate? The sentence seemed a little confusing.
Idaho Girl said...
Well . . . I'm FROM Idaho (who knew, right??) but I don't live there any longer.
Could that be the difference with Enzo?
I was thinking the same thing. Maybe he's looking in the wrong place. Argentina perhaps?
someone who knows how to grab that mp3...could ya get it now? I am conserned it will disappear!!
WOW WOW WOW!!!!!! There is WAY too much in that podcast!! Even the "take to the portarican town I grew up in" ?????????????????????
Idahogirl: I agree it's probably farfetched that Alvar is Enzo. Alvar did address the UN Security Council. But Enzo presented his Equation in secret. They are about the same age. No pics of Enzo. One grainy pic of Alvar. It would be interesting though.
First of all I am sure that THF has a private jet, so he could be able to go anywhere he wants to. Second there is an airport in Sardinia, airport code is OLB. Flights from Copenhagen go to Fiumicino airport first then on to Sardinia, there are no direct flights from Copenhagen to Sardinia or San Remo. In fact there is no airport in San Remo, the closest I can find is San Domino Island, TQR. Which is closer to the island of Sardinia.
Trasher; Well Mittelwerk was coming from Iceland, not Copenhagen, right? Well, maybe he's going to take a boat to Sardinia for some reason. People keep saying that R had it right when she said San Remo. But all the sites I checked say V was born in Sardinia. Thanks for checking this out.
There's a new Clue re podcast and Rachel update.
All the known sites on Valenzetti (nothing official, or course) state he was born in the 1920's on the island of Sardinia.
Maybe GidgetGirl knows something we don't.
Opps, sorry, still from Reykjavik, Icland,(KEF), there is one stop on most domestic flights, mainly in Charles De Gaulle in France, then on the Sardinia...I am sure that San Remo has small airports, my system doesn't show any...closest I find is San Domino Island...
So, Thrasher, there is an airport in Sardinia for either commercial or private aircraft?
Out of curiousity, who is going to be at the Lost symposiums at SanDiegoComicCon in a month? I can just imagine Rachel Blake showing up there in person and grilling the creators for live clues, or possibly even someone like Mittelwerk showing up to talk about it.
I'll be there to tape it all.
SDCC is going to be great. I know something is going to go down there.
Mochi: I think Belly said he was going. You guys have to be our eyes and ears.
Maven: Yes that airport takes commercial and private planes, there like 5 airports on the island, OLB is the largest...
Thanks, Thrasher. This discrepency between Sardinia/San Remo is confusing. It's what GidgetGirl said, but all Valenzetti references say Sardinia. Maybe he GREWUP in San Remo?
Idaho Girl -
I'm with you - in really traditional drama, the second act usually ends with some kind of horrible tragedy (ie - Rachel getting abducted or killed). Maybe in the third act, we will be more on our own, trying to find her?
Also, I wouldn't be surprised if the third act tied into the third season somehow. We have to remember that the game is first and foremost a marketing tool for ABC - they're going to want to drive people to the show in the fall.
Olbia airport - Costa Smeralda - Sardinia. The Olbia Costa Smerelda airport is located in the NE area of Sardinia and is one of the prinicple accesses to the island...
Cool, I'll have to get in contact with Belly before then. Thanks, Maven!
I'm going there for the art (I have 2 different artbooks being printed with work in them), but the Lost stuff will be great.
It might just be the start of live acts and real life events for Act 3. Or an important scene of Act 2.
Wahhhhaaa. I can't wait!
Sardinia (an island), and a region of Italy, sits just south of the Island of Corsica in the blue Tyrrhenian Sea. It's about 160 miles long, 68 miles wide, and 115 miles west of the Italian mainland.
It has survived invasions by the Phoenicians, Carthaginians, Romans, Arabs, Byzantines, Spanish Savoyards and Italians, and local festivals still reflect those cultures.
Numerous prehistoric Nuraghe castles, villages, temples and tombs dot the countryside, and with its perfect weather, tourists arrive in droves, many by ferry.
Note the last part of that, 'many by ferry', so it would make sense to fly into the mainland and then ferry over to Sardinia...who knows?
dennis, i didn't spoil anything, i just said the game was on right now, chill out. also, my name has an "e" in it. thanks.
omniscient, it's really not that off course. it's pretty easy to take a boat from the Riviera to Sardinia actually, and that's really how most people get there (same with Sicily), because it's way cheaper.
Omnicient - not really, San Remo is a coastal town in the Italian Riviera, directly south is Corsica then Sardinia. Be equivalent to flying from Boston to Florida in terms of distance...or close to it.
Gotta keep my facts vague, you people are on top of everything!! I like it!!
I'm going on record as saying the same guy who was in charge of printing a map to be shown in rachel's video was also responsible for this part of the game. It will be explained away in the next clue.
New Thread! Already 30 plus comments! Yah!
RB says "END OF THE WORLD"
Now does she mean end, like in the end of the bread, it is all gone, OR
end of the car, as in, front vs back, the back is the end of the car?
Could the "end of the world", mean the end (or the position)that contains the opening to the earth's interior?
Ha, ha - good point drama. If they get really Shakespearean on us, then Rachel will have to kill DJ Dan and then throw herself into a volcano or something. After killing Mittelwerk, Peter Thompson and Alvar Hanso, of course.
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