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Clue #68 - Rachel Blake - Italy Post 01/02 & Valenzetti Equation


Rachel Post 01:
Rachel just posted the Login and Password for the richerbroaderdeeper login box on her blog under Italy Post 01. User Name = rblake. Password = allveggie. It takes us to a new video, which is in Quicktime format. We've put the video up at this YouTube link for those who cannot access it in Quicktime format!

Rachel brings her "genes" into the mix with a specific mention her mother. It may or may not be relevant, but she signs off using a phrase that Gerry found more information about on this website or this one.

Rachel updated her post AGAIN! Looks like she wants us to dig up as much information as possible on Enzo Valenzetti, she should check out our Research Blog for more information on him.

Valenzetti Equation:
Searching through the web we've stumbled upon this Valenzetti Equation site that EVERYONE needs check out!

Rachel Post 02:
Rachel updated and gives us a link to some audio of a very interesting discussion between Mittlewerk, Peter Thompson, and a woman. There was a link to http://au.docs.yahoo.com/rachels-cast/ and the login was given as "rblake" and the password "organharvest". Some of those voices sound vaguely familiar...DJDan & Tanya?

Administrative Update
Also, I wanted to let you know about a change to our blog. I'm traveling quite a bit this summer and work has really picked up for William & Daniel (the other blog Admins), so we've invited two new contributors to join the TLEC team. From now on, BellyOfDesire and Thrasher76 will be reading your emails and creating posts for this blog alongside David (Administrator). We're so excited to have them on board!

Thanks to Rick, Linklane and Omniscient for pointing it out in the comments and Gerry for his email. Thanks also to Rich, Karen, Alex, and Christine for emailing. We love emails ABOUT CLUES!!!

275 Comments:

Blogger Mrs. Dunbar's Blogger said...

NEW RoT message ... not much help, though ...

Songbird61

7/03/2006 10:05:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Thanks Gang!

Lets hunt down this password!

7/03/2006 10:06:00 AM  
Blogger Mrs. Dunbar's Blogger said...

Fiber mentions the FIRST clue ... is Wilkommen the username?

Songbird61

7/03/2006 10:08:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Badger - It is worth a look, but her first blog is a front to keep her safe...but like aI said it is worth looking into...I think the "brass ring" has something to do with it...

7/03/2006 10:12:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

I am looking at Manny's pistures, have been all morning, nothing is jumpingout at me...anyone?

What is the screen name?

7/03/2006 10:19:00 AM  
Blogger Vintage_Soul said...

there are only four words capitalized in Mandrake's flicker..
Bole,
Taxi,
Australian,
Airlines..

tried to look for acronyms.. have found nothing of use.

7/03/2006 10:21:00 AM  
Blogger Melissa_Lossa said...

I can't help but think that the password has to be in that red, green and blue memo, since both are tied to the RoT site. I just can't figure anything out!

Has anyone tried to do anything with the numbers in the memo?

7/03/2006 10:21:00 AM  
Blogger Christine said...

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7/03/2006 10:24:00 AM  
Blogger Christine said...

ok nevermind i got in

7/03/2006 10:26:00 AM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

what are the nine words? (playing catch up)

7/03/2006 10:29:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Coney Island has a merry go round where you get a prize if you can reach out and grab a brass ring as you go around...any ideas from this nugget of information?

7/03/2006 10:30:00 AM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

all i know is welcome your next video ..................experiences

7/03/2006 10:30:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Noblelawyer - here are the 9 words at the end of the site address

http://richerdeeperbroader.com/welcome/your/next/video/needs/your/experiences/check/tomorrow

7/03/2006 10:31:00 AM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

thrasher - that is the classic merry go round - they all used to have a brass ring, and the one who got it got 1 free ride. that is wehre the phrase (grab the brass ring came from). However most fairs removed the ring due to people sometimes falling off, while reaching out for the ring (fear of lawsuits).

7/03/2006 10:32:00 AM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

THANKS THRASHER!!!!!!!

7/03/2006 10:33:00 AM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

and Lhorse!

7/03/2006 10:33:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Noble - you are correct! I was thinking coney Island because I had gone there as a child and remebered the brass ring, I guess it doesn't make that place special...reaching.

What is the login name?

7/03/2006 10:35:00 AM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

o.k. for the user name, I just put in wtk, and then "breaking strain" for the password - just guessing. while the password was not correct it does appear that there might be something to "wtk" as the username because the username then changed to richerdeepbroader.com/wtk however when I put that into my url it said the page could not be found..maybe ya'll have already tried this, or it does it for anything you put in?

7/03/2006 10:38:00 AM  
Blogger Ange said...

noblelawyer-it always does that with anything you type in.

From the Spy Me To The Moon Post on ROT:
Fiberoptician 8:27pm And we're back! You know what? Espionagin' ain't easy. Ok so today some things will happen. I can't tell you what right now but you'll know when they do because you'll be stuck. What do you do when you're stuck? Go back to the beginning and start the process again. I spoke to this doctor friend of mine and he's agreed to help me the only way he can. A short PS with a WORD that will lead you to the first part of my special super secret thing-ama-whatsit. Parts two and three... humm.. I'll be back.
Could we have to go back to the beginning for the un/pw?

7/03/2006 10:40:00 AM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

thanks ange
"breaking strain" was the very first password wasnt it? that is why I was thinking it might be it )but still no idea for the username then.

7/03/2006 10:41:00 AM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

ah lhorse - still, the fact that this next clue needs our experiences also seems to reference going back through what we have already done. that the username and password exists somewhere in the past

7/03/2006 10:46:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Looking..........how far back must we look, the begining of what? ROT, THF, time itself???

7/03/2006 10:47:00 AM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

In the beginning God created the Heavens and the earth

7/03/2006 10:50:00 AM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

no little, I see you, I was just agreeing!

7/03/2006 10:51:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

littletigerone - not invisible, we value all comments on here...this is frustrating...first password we got was 'breaking strain', we also had 'missing organs', 'the mouth piece', 'porter', which one and what is the user ID?????

7/03/2006 10:52:00 AM  
Blogger Christine said...

remenber he said that"the clue was right in front of our face"?

7/03/2006 10:52:00 AM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

isn't "wtk" the only username we have ever had before?

7/03/2006 10:53:00 AM  
Blogger Christine said...

ok ok now take a step back. when they gave us "check/tomorrow" what are we checking? obviously it wasnt suppose to be rot since they gave us nothing.

7/03/2006 10:56:00 AM  
Blogger Christine said...

so what is new today besides the rot post?

7/03/2006 10:57:00 AM  
Blogger sean said...

maybe we have to come back later.

7/03/2006 10:58:00 AM  
Blogger Christine said...

ok what about that other thing on the jeep poster "dift...etc" i cant remember use that with the mouthpiece and see what happens

7/03/2006 11:00:00 AM  
Blogger Christine said...

hmm interesting now we need a username

7/03/2006 11:01:00 AM  
Blogger Christine said...

you guys, this is silly i agree that the password and username must be in that letter. in a previous post on rot it was said that a clue that will lead us to a clue that will lead us to THE CLUE. so there is something we are missing on that letter

7/03/2006 11:08:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Belly - Yes, all we have is the new post from the ROT people...no user name and no password as of yet...

Congrats by the way!

7/03/2006 11:09:00 AM  
Blogger Christine said...

that letter must lead us somewhere! they always do

7/03/2006 11:09:00 AM  
Blogger Christine said...

the username must be one of theirs since we have them already.

7/03/2006 11:11:00 AM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

congrats to you both, thrasher and belly

7/03/2006 11:11:00 AM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

I think that the nine words should be put in the clues sections, not just the comments though

7/03/2006 11:12:00 AM  
Blogger Arkay said...

hey belly and thrasher,
CONGRATS!
unfortunately i have a class everyday for the next two weeks, so i can't play as much as if i was working.
so KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK EVEREYONE. i'll get in when i can.
*hifives all around*

7/03/2006 11:12:00 AM  
Blogger maven said...

Kudos to Thrasher and Belly. You will do a great job.

Since the sentences says "you need your EXPERIENCES", what experiences have we had (I'm assuming) in-game? Anagramming, finding websites, what else?

7/03/2006 11:15:00 AM  
Blogger Melissa_Lossa said...

askifigiveadamn and belly -

I agree. That letter has to be the key. I also think that the user name has to be someone on that site. wtk worked before because it was tied to the jeep site. Now that we're on rbd, we'll need one of the verizon names. Since the clues have come from DSL, I would assume he's the username.

7/03/2006 11:17:00 AM  
Blogger maven said...

Thanks, tony: Playing with images is definitely an in-game experience and it is something we just did with the Spider memo. We got red, green, blue. Maybe there's a yellow (or other color) we have to add. I tried everything yellow I could think of, but nothing worked.

7/03/2006 11:21:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

This is nuts!! Once we know the user Id we can find the password, but we won't know if the user Id is right until we have the right password...totally mind numbing!

7/03/2006 11:21:00 AM  
Blogger Melissa_Lossa said...

Idaho Girl, here you go:

http://www.box.net/public/static/ees7m6u7kp.jpg

7/03/2006 11:24:00 AM  
Blogger Christine said...

i agree he did use nice instead of nine, and trip is out of place.

7/03/2006 11:26:00 AM  
Blogger maven said...

I agree it might be in the letter. What about all the numbers on it?
4888
1060
10120
00000000000000
000

7/03/2006 11:27:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

On that letter is has -------- (4888), beta (1060), and delta (10120)...do we know what the first word is, 8 letters?

7/03/2006 11:28:00 AM  
Blogger Christine said...

he also said pretty much that everything that was IN CAPS was a clue. so what about TRUE and THE END? we havent used that for anything yet

7/03/2006 11:29:00 AM  
Blogger Unknown said...

i thought epsilon or perhaps omicron, but they're 7 letters.

there don't seem to be any 8-letter ones to fit (Greek alphabet, that is).

trying other options now.

7/03/2006 11:33:00 AM  
Blogger Christine said...

hmm ill leave that one for the photoshoppers out there

7/03/2006 11:36:00 AM  
Blogger Squeaky said...

wait where?

7/03/2006 11:40:00 AM  
Blogger Squeaky said...

Oh duh.

7/03/2006 11:42:00 AM  
Blogger HitcH said...

rachels sites back up - username - RBlake, password - allveggie - 27MB video

7/03/2006 11:44:00 AM  
Blogger your friend said...

STUPID!!!! I like how this game is designed to waste all my time. Well it has it's fun moments.

7/03/2006 11:45:00 AM  
Blogger Melissa_Lossa said...

TPTB are probably having a good laugh right now - this whole exercise WAS pretty pointless!

Notice the line - "it's in my genes"? Rachel must be related to Alvar, or someone.

7/03/2006 11:45:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Hate when serve crashes whilst in a clue!!! Nice Job folks!!

7/03/2006 11:45:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Please put it on Youtube, eventhough I can't view it at work, I will chekc it at home, I am at 12% download at work!! 25 minutes to go!! YEAH!!!

7/03/2006 11:49:00 AM  
Blogger Nathan P. Gale said...

Who were Rachel's Parents???

7/03/2006 11:50:00 AM  
Blogger Deanna said...

Yeah, that one was a drag. I actually have some time today and wanted something good to happen and thought I was getting to play a fun clue. How disappointing. =o(

7/03/2006 11:53:00 AM  
Blogger maven said...

Mrs. Calabash is what Jimmy Durante said at the end of his tv shows.

Sounds more and more like RB is Alvar's daughter or granddaughter! "I lied as well as told the truth. I guess it's in my genes."

7/03/2006 11:53:00 AM  
Blogger Christine said...

so why make us find all those clues if rachel was going to give them to us anyway ARGHHHHHH

7/03/2006 11:54:00 AM  
Blogger Christine said...

i thought she said halibash

7/03/2006 11:55:00 AM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Man! You guys are fast. I was just about to post the Jimmy Durante reference as well.

Maven: In her video she actually says "If I'm learning anything it's that my instincts have lied to me just as much as they've told the truth. It must be in my genes." Still an interesting reference to family but not openly admitting to lying.

7/03/2006 12:08:00 PM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

garammit! No speakers at work - fortunately I am only working about another hour before going home due to the HOliday.

7/03/2006 12:13:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Rachel updated her page...again!

7/03/2006 12:37:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Seems she is calling out to us to dig up as muchinfo as possible on Valenzetti...ahem, Matt that is your cue!! You would think she would just check out your blog, it has all you could ever want to know about it...

7/03/2006 12:39:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

All roads lead to the Valenzetti Equation. We've been trying all along to find out things about it. Vexingmodstwo and MattthePale's blog (http://findvalenzetti.blogspot.com/) has been working on this for quite a while. This is where Gary Troup ties in. He must have left something behind for us to uncover.

Also, we're finding out more about Rachel's motivation. There has to be a family connection here. Talking about her mom, and her genes...daughter or granddaughter to Alvar or Enzo. Wistfully talks about her Mom wanting to see Italy (maybe Valenzetti is her father.)

7/03/2006 12:48:00 PM  
Blogger Melissa_Lossa said...

Scott -

http://www.valenzettifoundation.org has a disclaimer at the bottom that it is not associated with ABC, so it's a fake.

7/03/2006 12:55:00 PM  
Blogger Nathan P. Gale said...

http://www.watermarkcommunity2.org/files/student_valenzetti.pdf

7/03/2006 12:56:00 PM  
Blogger Ange said...

On the Gary Troup web site (garytroupbooks.com or garytroup.net whichever you prefer) there has always been a page for reviews that has been blank. Perhaps we should watch that page this week. Maybe we'll see something there with the re-relaease of Bad Twin (large print) on Wednesday and with all of the Valenzetti chatter.

7/03/2006 01:00:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

A lot of us have been trying to find out info re Valenzetti and his equation, and the only sites are the valenzettifoundation.org (which has been deemed OOG) and the watermarkcommunity2 site which Speaker gave some credence to. Everything with Gary Troup has been a deadend, so far.

7/03/2006 01:01:00 PM  
Blogger Deanna said...

Maybe Alvar is one grandfather and Enzo is the other? Perhaps working together in the beginning until Mittlewerk came on the scene and things went haywire. That would keep things interesting.

Reaching, of course...

7/03/2006 01:08:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Deannacat: I can reach further: Alvar IS Enzo!

7/03/2006 01:22:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Nice reach there Maven!!!

7/03/2006 01:29:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

It's interesting that the password was allveggie. Didn't McIntyre eat at a vegetarian restaurant with the GWC woman?

7/03/2006 01:36:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Looks the same to me lhorse007, what is new?

7/03/2006 01:37:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

jessiepo: Thanks for the correction. I did remember someone was a vegatarian.

7/03/2006 01:44:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Globalwelfareconsortium.com is a "website that is coming soon"

7/03/2006 01:59:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Things are really quieting down after the flurry of activity a few hours ago! There are a lot of deadends now. Maybe TPTB are trying to tell us to relax, enjoy the 4th, come back Wednesday for some answers!

7/03/2006 02:13:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

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7/03/2006 02:13:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

I think you are onto something there Maven...even though the game spans more than just the USA!!

word verification - sackncut

sounds painful!!

LMAO

7/03/2006 02:23:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Indeed, Biotronx, the trailers are all cool, even the fake ones. Hopefully they do the original justice!

Roll Out!!!!

7/03/2006 02:38:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

The words were figured out in the comment sections by a few people, not sure there were actual clues, more like hints in a direction like, blue = sarrow...

It looks like the letter came from Mittlewerk, it is 'signed' TM...Thomas Mittelwerk...hmmm

7/03/2006 02:53:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

biotronx: You're a little behind. Read all the comments as well as the Clues 67 & 68.

7/03/2006 02:54:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

That should be blue = sorrow!

7/03/2006 02:56:00 PM  
Blogger kilgore said...

Even if the Calabash thing isn't directly related, the way in which she said it makes me think Rachel's mom is dead. She speaks about her in the past tense, and the "wherever you are" makes me believe that.

7/03/2006 02:58:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Later gang...going to a picnic, will check back tomorrow, or later on tonight...not sure I am going to miss anything!

Peace & Namaste!

7/03/2006 03:04:00 PM  
Blogger Melissa_Lossa said...

Arthur -

I've definately been wandering that. There is way too much movement in her videos for it to be something automatic on the camera. However, in the video when she ran from her hotel room, she was obviously alone.

7/03/2006 03:31:00 PM  
Blogger Melissa_Lossa said...

that would be wondering, not wandering

think my mind is wandering....

7/03/2006 03:32:00 PM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

waaay back near the top Vintage Soul asked about

Bole,
Taxi,
Australian,
Airlines..

TAA was an Australian airline that closed in the mid 80's. Just some trivia

my take on the inclusion of the ROT/RDB link in Rachel's blog is I think they included the link as we had already figured it out. They dished the clues out as per their schedule over the weekend even though we had already figured them out, but I guess there was no point continuing that line since it was known for a good while.

spiders and myth... spinning... weaving... fate... future...

that or they are working on some human mutations a la Spiderman...

7/03/2006 04:19:00 PM  
Blogger Joseph Finchum said...

I agree with pretty much everyone, I feel jipped by this. We all spent so much time on this just to be hand Fed the answers.

*DeDJeZTeR - Bites the hand that feeds him*

Also someone said that they were glad that ACT 2 was less forced and more "go and find things." which IMHO is bull. We have not yet had any real influence on the game. We find stuff early... doesn't matter, we are just following the bread crumbs let to follow.

7/03/2006 04:42:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Chopsshaw: I hear you. What's worse is trying to explain it to famiy and friends that DON'T watch the show. Plus the fact that I haven't done anything like this before, so people and family are so surprised at my obsession with this.

7/03/2006 04:48:00 PM  
Blogger Joseph Finchum said...

I have been explaining to some relatives, but I have been doing it almost day by day so they have been able to follow what I am saying. I also use printouts of documents and send them the video links so they can feel involved even though I am the one doing all the work... lol

7/03/2006 04:53:00 PM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

in explaining this game to people not the least aware of it... I try to give it in small doeses and concentrate on the bits that have more relevance to the show. So DHARMA, the heiroglyphs... and then if I haven't lost them try covering other bits the next tier in relevance. But it is near impossible :-)

7/03/2006 04:55:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

biotronx: RDB did change a day or so again with some links on some of the pages (ex. the fiber optics one). But I don't remember the flying saucer on the opening page, do you?

7/03/2006 05:06:00 PM  
Blogger Mrs. Dunbar's Blogger said...

I know Speaker's darned cool, but are we certain that http://www.valenzettiequation.com is in-game?

Songbird61

7/03/2006 05:28:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Well, that "new" Valenzetti site that Speaker gave us and is on the Clue page doesn't really tell us anything we don't know already. Just confirms things. Unless there's something more to this.

7/03/2006 05:29:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Notice the mistake in the bio of Gary Troup on the valenzettiequation.com site: Said he was lost in the Oceanic 815 Flight on September 24, 2000 not 2004. Major error!

7/03/2006 05:34:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

marcusallencooper: Thanks, I had already been corrected on that one.

7/03/2006 05:39:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Globalwelfareconsortium.com also may go live shortly.

7/03/2006 05:46:00 PM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

biotronx, oh I wouldn't bank on me being right, seems like a rare occurance ;)

the hint that people were following, that we needed to go back and use an old login or password did pan out to be right, "rblake" has been used before, and vegan/allveggie we were aware of, but in this instance they didn't give long between that last ROT board and the answers being given. Maybe something else is happening today and they wanted to make sure we got through this with plenty of time before it, I dunno ~shrugs~ And I agree the video clue doesn't seem to have much in it, though we all seem to have picked up on Rachel referencing her genetics and her mother. Maybe it's another one of those cases where you only realise the significance of something after another development.

7/03/2006 05:49:00 PM  
Blogger wizardry_eas said...

I like that last link littletigerone.

I seems to look real enough to me. www.valenzettiequation.com. It adds up to me that if Rachel has told us to do research on valenzetti then that is what we should do. Maybe there is more to the site. I am going to dig deeper.
And I agree that the gary troup book should come into it at some point soon but we are still missing two interviews. Maybe that is act 3??

7/03/2006 05:55:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

chopsshaw: Check out Clue #25. There's also a discussion of the novel on the the Research Blog (thelostexperienceresearch.blogspot.com).

Thanks, jessiepao.

7/03/2006 05:56:00 PM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

the date error has been fixed on the Valenzetti site. That was fast...

7/03/2006 05:58:00 PM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

actually one page says 2004 the other 2000. Not so fast...

7/03/2006 06:01:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

The Gary Troup page (about the author) still says 2000.

7/03/2006 06:03:00 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

ChopShaw ~ there is a great synopsis in this blog.

http://thelostexperienceclues.blogspot.com/2006/05/gary-troup-info-5-thorough-insights.html

I read the book and can't think of anything I would add to this summary.

The book itself mentions The Hanso Foundation, Mittlewerk and Alvar Hanso specifically but doesn't give any new information. Lately we're seeing more and more subtle tie-in's that may not be included yet...

Dr. Armand Zander at the Vik, his last name is the nickname of one of the Widmore's in the book. I'm pretty sure something happened in game... a comment on a blog from someone named "Moth" that was relevant... "Moth" is the nickname of Zander's friend in the book.

7/03/2006 06:04:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

We did learn that Valenzetti had an assistant (page 4). Whoever that is must know something!

7/03/2006 06:06:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Any mathematicians or physicists in the house? Pandora over at ITE has a screenshot of the equations on the cover of the VE site.

7/03/2006 06:39:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

HEY GUYS/GALS!

Does anyone remember that photo of two people that look like they are at the grand canyon?

Does anyone HAVE that photo or know where I could find it?

thanks,

lena

7/03/2006 06:56:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

Hey belly! Did you get my email?

Do YOU remember that pic of two peeps on the grand canyon? Think it came from RB blog files or something?

7/03/2006 07:00:00 PM  
Blogger Rockman9045 said...

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7/03/2006 07:01:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

HEHEHE belly:

Check this out

BAM BACK!

7/03/2006 07:02:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

lavenda sent me some websites where she found some of the swan pics. I started disecting the websites. This is what I found. Not sure about it, just thought it looked WAY too much like that pic.

??

STARTED WITH:

http://www.s3.kth.se/~aurelian/photo/DALARNA/page_04.htm

then did this:
http://www.s3.kth.se/~aurelian/photo/
above has two folders:
dalarna and norway

AND:

**http://www.s3.kth.se/~aurelian/
points to:
http://www.ee.kth.se/php/index.php?action=people&cmd=extended&peopleid=71**

Not sure if ANY of it is anything...but I shall go further in!!! Wanna join?

7/03/2006 07:09:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

COOL~found this too:

Its real site but still neat!

http://www.ets.kth.se/etk/research/

7/03/2006 07:11:00 PM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

http://stophanso.rachelblake.com/uploaded_images/kylie_scott-732052.JPG

7/03/2006 07:14:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

Yah, have to say...

I didnt have a CLUE what that meant till my hubby told me that was a phrase some old time actor used to say.

Could maybe bringing it up and if it goes nowhere just delete later! Thats what I seen David do before.

He warns everyone that it might not go anywhere, but lets us know it there.

7/03/2006 07:14:00 PM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

belly too quick for me

7/03/2006 07:14:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

yah, could bring up the phrase and where it comes from but that site is old...and just a informational site.

Hey lavenda!

Did you see the freaky stuff from your links? Neat, but not sure if its anything. Just think its cool.

7/03/2006 07:20:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Belly: I believe that saying was just a way to emphasize that Rachel's mom is deceased and was probably of a certain age when Durante was big. It was a pretty popular thing for a certain generation. It's kinda funny how many people on these comments did not know Jimmy Durante or had ever heard of this saying.

7/03/2006 07:20:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

fitz66:

thats an idea!

maven:

quilty as charged...had NO clue LOL but in my defence, it DID ring a bell!!! LOL

7/03/2006 07:23:00 PM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

lena yeah I did... who knew something like that would come of me killing an hour in a quite time in the game! Who knows if there is something to it. If only JWH would talk...

there seems to be a few stories to the origin of the Durante sign off, so either you post something about all of them or don't worry about posting anythig

7/03/2006 07:24:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

WOW! Now I wanna go to Norway, after seeing those BEAUTIFUL pictures in that folder! VERY pretty!

7/03/2006 07:28:00 PM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

and just in case anyone is wondering that Scott and Kylie pic was first mentioned June 25th

7/03/2006 07:28:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

thanks lavenda! Hummm..not much came of that, did it?

7/03/2006 07:35:00 PM  
Blogger thinbluemime said...

Valenzetti Equation from Gary Troup's lost book
Buried in the site flash file...and decompiled
For those that say decompiling flash files is cheating, there was no other way to get this formula, sorry.
http://users.newblog.com/thinbluemime/?post_id=6371

7/03/2006 07:35:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

Did anyone notice the date error on the valenzetti website?

On the equation it says: Gary Troup disappearance was on Sept 2004

On the author it says: He disappeared on Sept 24, 2000

TYPO OR SOMETHING ELSE????????

7/03/2006 07:52:00 PM  
Blogger thinbluemime said...

TaiwanGuy said...

"thinbluemime, i doubt that is the valenzetti equation. troup probably just put that on his book as a background"

You may be right, and if the equation COULD ever exists in reality, it probably would not be buried in a flash file. But it is the closest we will get to the actual formula, till someone ties Hanso down, and extracts the real valenzetti equation :)

7/03/2006 08:01:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Team Lena: Hi! Yes, I posted re that typo a while ago. Think it's just one of those boo boos from TPTB.

7/03/2006 08:08:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

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7/03/2006 08:16:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

thinbluemine: Thanks for the screencap. I think it's just a "mathy" background for the site (originally on the book cover). There's no way the actual VE would be out there for everybody to see.

7/03/2006 08:17:00 PM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

maybe it is just part of the equation. What was it Zander said about it... blackboards covered in it?

lena, pandora might know more about cybeRRunner who found the Scott and Kylie pic

7/03/2006 08:19:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

I see nothing new has come up other than Valenzetti site bieng in game or not...it certainly looks like it ot me...but who knows these days...

7/03/2006 08:36:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Night peeps!

7/03/2006 08:37:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

Hey belly!

Hoffitt film dude/dudette was signed on 1 hour ago AND STILL NO RESPONCE TO MY EMAIL!

7/03/2006 08:45:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Patchwork: I don't see anything new on the Gary Troup site. Been quilting?

7/03/2006 08:55:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

I'm putting the binding on a king-size, scrappy 15-patch with alternate stars for our bed. It's the biggest thing I've ever done.

7/03/2006 09:01:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

I've been working on it on and off for a few months. It's so big and heavy to work with. I machine quilted it (I do hand also).

Unfortunately, Alvar Hanso or Rachel Blake aren't quilters. Otherwise we would have this figured out by now!

7/03/2006 09:07:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

I thought the same thing. Made me think of Spider Protocol! See you, patchwork.

7/03/2006 09:09:00 PM  
Blogger Fenris said...

Okay, there is more suspicous audio in this latest video. I've done the usual, cleaned it up and experimented with things. I've got three sound files up on my webspace, the first is the full audio with just some basic reduction of the the background road noises. The second is a treated file, but again the whole audio (I was checking for extra hidden bits. The final clip (which is a wav rather then mp3) is shorter and has a few bits in reverse (as well as forward) and some bits slowed down. There are a lot of potential words there and I'm not going to give any clue. But there was one ominous sentance that seemed to be repeated a few times from my perspective.

Main Soundclips
The Rest

Also those "shotgun" microphones are pretty expensive, especially if you want a good one (I think she'd need a good one for what she was doing). No wonder she's starting to run out of money! I'm no expert on covert recordings but I would have thought from the clearly visible effects of wind behind her that she would be getting mostly noise from it without some kind of wind shield.

7/03/2006 09:27:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

thanks fenris! Gonna go listen now!

7/03/2006 09:41:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

I just listened, fenris. I know my hearing is not the best. I must have missed what you're talking about.

I do know that there was talk earlier about the sirens being "American" and not what is used in "Italy". Another boo boo!

7/03/2006 09:46:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

I posted that a while ago, patchwork. It's probably another TPTB boo boo!

7/03/2006 10:23:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

There's not much info (yet) on Valenzetti. That website (valenzettiequation.com) came out late in the day. Speaker started a new thread with it, and our new admins put it up about the same time (I think). But it didn't have too much new info.

7/03/2006 10:36:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Sorry for you guys being in such a faraway timezone. I'm sure TPTB are probably on the west coast (where I am, ain't I lucky?) and things are run on their time. Have they finished Season 2 where you are, patchwork?

7/03/2006 10:47:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

It's so tough to keep spoilers away from you guys. But, at least, you have something to look forward to! It's your wintertime, right? It's been over 100 degrees here in the suburbs of Los Angeles. That's why it's tough working on quilts in this weather. Having a quilt on my lap while I'm putting on the binding is very warm.

7/03/2006 10:55:00 PM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

patch, there is the option of getting caught up so you can't be spoiled...

there's four eps counting the finale as one. I can't wait till Aus is all caught up, though it will probably be even hard then not to accidently post a spoiler for what hasn't been aired in the UK

7/03/2006 11:18:00 PM  
Blogger thinbluemime said...

Jimmy Durante Famous for a number of other beloved catch-phrases besides the "Mrs. Calabash" routine, including: "It's a castastrophe!", "I'm mortified!" "Surrounded by assassins!", "Everybody wants ta get inta da act!, and "Hotch-cha-cha-cha-cha!"

7/04/2006 12:01:00 AM  
Blogger sean said...

so mrs. calabash has to mean something.

sorry, its 1:30 AM and i havnt really been activ all day. i had to put in something.

7/04/2006 12:29:00 AM  
Blogger Dr. DRE said...

rachel and gidget are talking on her blog
gigdget gave her explanation of why it's sanremo instead of sardinia
lame....

7/04/2006 12:39:00 AM  
Blogger ninatim said...

The Troup Bad Twin site lists Troup’s death in September, 2004. The new Valenzetti Equation website says his death was on Sept. 24, 2000. Hmmmm...

Something to watch I guess?

7/04/2006 01:36:00 AM  
Blogger MisterFrosty said...

Haven't posted here in awhile, but ITE is quiet so I'll throw this to you here.

Okay,

RB said in her video that McIntyre was in Sanremo 'sans mistress.'

And in the updated RB blog GidgetGirl infers she is 'there' in Sanremo.

So GidgetGirl cannot be the GWC girl shagging Hugh.

Now we have to be looking for another player to be Gidge, right?

Or RB suffers from Schizophrenia and she is both RB and GidgetGirl.

Joop help us.

7/04/2006 01:40:00 AM  
Blogger Tom Mein, Guitarist said...

hey why cant i get into RoT message board? anyone else getting this prob?

7/04/2006 01:49:00 AM  
Blogger MisterFrosty said...

patchwork,

another off topic,

i was doing a little searching using google earth to find a rough locaiton for 'craphole island'

found this odd geologic dealio, does it look like the island has slipped off it's foundation, or what?

http://tinyurl.com/evz64

7/04/2006 02:53:00 AM  
Blogger HitcH said...

Hey guys - i thought of a name for us Rachel followers -"The Spyders" - partly because of the SPIDER Protocol, and mainly cos we spend half our time hunting down clues/people in the WEB, and mainly cos we spend most of our time just sitting on the WEB waiting for something interesting to happen :) thoughts?

7/04/2006 03:02:00 AM  
Blogger HitcH said...

ethros...oh dear...

*hangs head in disbelief*

...just..oh dear...

lol ;)

7/04/2006 03:16:00 AM  
Blogger DeadCat said...

The 'glyphs from the equation turn up on the counter when the button isn't pressed, this implies it does.

My personal theory is this; They have savants furiously working away on the equation in iceland - but Valenzetti apparently finished his equation.

I think that pushing the button does something to the electro magnetic field on the island, it's a long shot, but I think this has something to do with one of the parameters in the equation.

So if THF are constantly changing the parameters of the equation, they need to constantly re-calculate it XD.

Just my suggestion.

7/04/2006 03:40:00 AM  
Blogger DeadCat said...

Literally 'To cause to die'

7/04/2006 03:48:00 AM  
Blogger picsel said...

New Talk on the blog between Gidget and Rachel

7/04/2006 05:31:00 AM  
Blogger HitcH said...

isnt the flower thing you guys are talking about related to the helios foundation that is linked from enrico valenzetti's blog-he says he visiting there...maybe mittlewerk is meeting enzos son?

7/04/2006 06:40:00 AM  
Blogger HitcH said...

wow kinetic, just read your posts on rachels site as well - could you be any more negative, some people dont do this every day

7/04/2006 07:26:00 AM  
Blogger HitcH said...

kinetic, i admit a few things dont seem to add up, like the hacking thing, and the fact she can afford all this travelling and expensive equipment, she has internet access everywhere, and she had her laptop stolen but then had a new one the very next day...but in the end, its just a game, theres only so much realism you can expect lol ;)

7/04/2006 07:41:00 AM  
Blogger HitcH said...

i just love the mullets in those pictures!

7/04/2006 08:02:00 AM  
Blogger thinbluemime said...

Dante was born in 1265 and he tells us he was born under the sign of Gemini, placing his birthday between May 18th and June 17th. As an infant, Dante may have been originally christened
'Durante'
in Florence's Baptistery, and the name Dante could be a shortened version of that name.

Jimmy Durante

More:
http://users.newblog.com/thinbluemime/?blogcategory_id=218

7/04/2006 08:06:00 AM  
Blogger sean said...

rachel had another conversation with GidgetGirl. its on her blog.

7/04/2006 08:54:00 AM  
Blogger sean said...

rachel updated again.

7/04/2006 09:32:00 AM  
Blogger sean said...

now we have to start looking for a new conversation between mittelwerk and his henchmen, hidden on the lost ninja website.

little help?

7/04/2006 09:35:00 AM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

ack, I emailed the details and the message bounced! grover from Ninja's blog got it, username rblake, password organharvest

7/04/2006 09:36:00 AM  
Blogger sean said...

where do you enter it? my sign in thing is not working. it keeps telling me invalid id and password.

7/04/2006 09:38:00 AM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

ok, on the radio bit on the left is a 'truth' link, then username and password as I said before. V interesting

7/04/2006 09:39:00 AM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

does anyone know why the blog email isn't working?

7/04/2006 09:40:00 AM  
Blogger sean said...

its intersting to hear peter thompsons voice again.

7/04/2006 09:45:00 AM  
Blogger sean said...

btw, thanks for the help lavenda. i was entering the password in the wrong place.

7/04/2006 09:46:00 AM  
Blogger sean said...

they said mittelwek cured thompson. not alvar.

7/04/2006 09:53:00 AM  
Blogger sean said...

we probably will, eventually. they're probably saving it for the end.

7/04/2006 10:00:00 AM  
Blogger FYSB said...

Unidentified Female Voice = GidgetGirl?

7/04/2006 10:16:00 AM  
Blogger The Penuels said...

Hey all...I'm out of town again but have been reading the comments as often as I get a chance. Just wanted to say "Hi" and mention a few things:

1. I think the RoT are soooo annoying.
2. I think GidgetGirl=Darla (Clue #7 - Phone Message to Hugh) but not the woman's voice in the audio.
3. I'm not sure how much the Jimmy Durante quote is a clue but I do think Rachel's "genes" will be very interesting.
4. I love all the discussion about Valenzetti. It's already been mentioned but Matt the Pale has a great blog findvalenzetti.blogspot.com and thelostexperienceresearch.blogspot.com has a great post about brain power.
5. I've been mulling this around in my head since a convo I had with winston_wolfe a few days ago. In regard to the continuity issues with the game tying into the show: What if season 3 starts with a black screen that says "October 2006" and suddenly the plot jumps again 2 years and the flashbacks are mostly about filling in the blanks? What if in ACT 3 of the ARG we follow Rachel and Mittlewerk to THE island and they become characters in season 3? Of course this possibility is marred by Hugh's appearance on Kimmel. What are other pros & cons to this possibility?

Okay...I'll be home soon and will really be able to "plug in" again. Keep the balance!

7/04/2006 10:36:00 AM  
Blogger thinbluemime said...

the audio file tag info shows DJ DAN in the ARTIST line. This is in the comments line

000001D3 00000020 00003D8C 000012E6 000141D8 000141D8 00006003 000055E3 0000C528 000150F0

7/04/2006 10:39:00 AM  
Blogger The Penuels said...

Oh yeah...and I agree wtih marcusallencooper, Peter Thompson definitely sounds just like DJDan and the woman in the audio is definitely Tanya! Is Peter Thompson on our team or is DJDan on theirs? I think Pete/Dan is with us.

7/04/2006 10:40:00 AM  
Blogger The Penuels said...

Guys, its not a matter of using the same voice actors...they are telling us that Peter = DJDan! ABC is not that cheap and voice actors aren't that expensive!

7/04/2006 10:44:00 AM  
Blogger FYSB said...

If DJ Dan=Peter Thompson, why did he "shutdown" the mathemetician that called in to talk about the Valenzetti Equation?

7/04/2006 10:57:00 AM  
Blogger maven said...

thinbluemime: I thought it strange to that the Artist listed for me was DJ Dan, too!

Admin: I really like your scenario for the start of season 3. The 2004/2006 has always bugged me. I had a similar thought to yours: tv shows can do whatever they want (remember "it was all a dream" on "Dallas?" They can say 2 years went by, and we have to accept it. I like the idea of flashbacks to fill in the long blank. Hopefully, when the show and ARG are on the same page, there will be interaction between the two.

DJDan and Tanya: Definitely the same voice as Peter and Woman. Now what would that mean?

7/04/2006 10:58:00 AM  
Blogger maven said...

Just noticed that they corrected the date for Gary Troup on valenzettiequation.com. It now says 2004. "They're" watching!

7/04/2006 11:13:00 AM  
Blogger maven said...

Just some questions from the conversation:

Peter says: It's not for me Tom. It's for our partners. Who are the partners? GWC?


Peter says: No, he (Valenzetti) donated it to Alvar Hanso. We have no way of know if HE gave us the real equation. Does he=Valenzetti or Hanso?

7/04/2006 11:19:00 AM  
Blogger maven said...

Well, it seems to me that Mittelwerk is supposed to be a strong, evil personality and has a hold over Thompson (especially with the cancer-curing thing). But why would Thompson take on the persona of DJ Dan and "host" a podcast. Not much of any substance has been given on these podcasts to "take down the man". It's mostly been innuendo, nothing solid. Thompson's motives were indicated in P's hack on THF website: Survivor Guilt. He also could be guilty over his past legal manueverings for big oil, tobacco, nuclear industry when it was revealed what the cases he worked on did to the public. Also, ABC wouldn't scrimp to use the same actor for both parts. It's not that much to hire two people. There is a reason it's the same person. However, with Peter being a legal mind, you would think he would come up with other methods rather becoming DJ Dan and hosting pretty tame podcasts that have really done nothing so far to THF other than bad mouth them. I don't know, it's very confusing to me.

7/04/2006 11:43:00 AM  
Blogger JoAnn said...

Did anyone else see the commercial during Kyle XY? Toward the end of Kyle XY (ABC Family) that really looks like something for the game. It gave this link.... http://madacorp.com and the "tone" of the commercial had the same feel as the Hanso commercials. There is a "employee locator" which may lead to something. I haven't figured it out.

7/04/2006 12:31:00 PM  
Blogger The Truth Tempest said...

It all seems false because it is false.

Persephone is our Deep Throat.

A secretive person giving out evidence, seeming to be on our side.

But if we had to, would we really want to trust someone so secretive and distrusting? So false and tricky?

We may appreciate her help, but it is certainly becoming ever more evident that she is not seeking the same thing we are after.

We want to end an injustice, end the Hanso Foundation through finding out more about the truth.

It feels like Persephone, or Rachel Blake as we now know her, is more likely out for some sort of revenge. Her personal darkness may make her into an untrustworthy force of immoral action in some pursuit of self-righteous vigilante justice.


With a leader like that...

May God help us.

-The Truth Tempest

7/04/2006 01:19:00 PM  
Blogger thinbluemime said...

was
haveyouseensarah.com
determined to be in or out of game??
It has a banner ad for oceanic airlines

JoAnn said...
http://madacorp.com

I combined pics from haveyouseensarah, and combined it with pic from MADAcorp.com
Are these two girls, the SAME girl?

http://lostdude.com/lostpics/MADA_HaveSeenSarah_ChildrenOftheCorn2_2.jpg

7/04/2006 02:09:00 PM  
Blogger Fenris said...

Maybe Gidget Girl is Rachels mother. She had an affair with her father (Hanso???) which is a large part of the reason as to why she didn't like Rachels attack on Hugh because of his affair (also possibly she knows Hugh is DJDan, but that seems crazy because if it's obvious to us it's the same voice we can be damn sure Mittlewerk and his cronnies noticed about the time of the first podcast!). Anyway, perhaps the reason Rachels gut leads her to believe Gidget when logic suggests she should be more cautious is because deep inside she knows it's her mother. That could also explain why there was only a look of partial recognition to Mittlewerk, perhaps he only saw her once as a child or it's just the family resemblence. If she was raised by her mother it's possible the father didn't even know.

Anyway that's my theory. Plus, Rachel said it herself - "Just like Alias".

7/04/2006 02:18:00 PM  
Blogger Squeaky said...

Well, someone probably might have this theory. This board gets so big that I can't possibly read everything due to my busy schedule.

It goes with the comment left above.

Hugh is DJ dan, and Tonya is Gidgetgirl.

The only way they can get around with nobody suspecting them, is to act like they're having an affair.

Thats why Gidgetgirl was so concerned when those pictures of her and him were posted. She didn't want to ruin his family.

7/04/2006 02:39:00 PM  
Blogger Squeaky said...

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7/04/2006 02:39:00 PM  
Blogger thinbluemime said...

I think DJ Dan is Garth Brooks aka Chris Gaines LOL
Did you see the pic of DJ Dan I posted earlier?

7/04/2006 02:42:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

Ok, bit confused...who are we comparing?

7/04/2006 03:10:00 PM  
Blogger intersys said...

So is Kylie-Scott linked to the Kyle blog on madacorp?


http://stophanso.rachelblake.com/uploaded_images/kylie_scott-732052.JPG

7/04/2006 03:37:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

NEW JWH1972 PICTURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


CLICK HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!

7/04/2006 04:05:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

What is this picture????? New video coming?????? Never seen this pic before in anything, anyone else?

7/04/2006 04:10:00 PM  
Blogger The Alternative One said...

wreti--->

See the transcription (plus lots more) on my blog at http://thealternativelostgame.blogspot.com/

The Alternative One

7/04/2006 04:23:00 PM  
Blogger thinbluemime said...

So we have a guy prepped for a news conference with his whole head wrapped in an ace bandage, and later he is going to eat the pie in front of him, if he can find his mouth hole?

LOL, is this B&W pic in game? And who is the "Invisible Man"?

7/04/2006 04:31:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

New updates to the video research blog:

CLICK HERE

Be sure to hit refresh!

7/04/2006 06:50:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Hey, Lena. Saw that pic earlier. What they heck do YOU think it means. Could it be a press conference with either AH or EV?

Happy 4th to everyone in good, ole U.S. of A!

7/04/2006 07:13:00 PM  

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