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Clue #74 - New Hanso/Mittlewerk Video

Yesterday, Mandrake Wig sent out a message to some friends giving a heads up that there would be some new chatter over at Retrievers of Truth today and sure enough there is. Head on over and log in with the usual "polar bear" and you'll see the newest conversation directing us to find a video on Broadband Stories. It isn't at all hard to find and it gives us more of Mittlewerk. This guy's popping up everywhere!

Transcript of the video provided in the comments by Maven for those of you who can't access it!

EDIT: Apparently, "polar bear" no longer works as a password for the Newsletter box on the Retrievers of Truth page. For now, "E72CDBF5-94FA-465C-BE5D
-0138AE32E38BANDNOITDONTMEANNOTHIN" is a working password. Before you type in the password, go ahead and enter your email to receive Wally's latest ramblings via email (which may contain clues...to other clues).

Thanks to Ange, Omniscient and Sweetscrapper for being the first to email!

718 Comments:

Blogger WeLoveCov said...

Mittelwork looking youthful!

7/14/2006 04:45:00 PM  
Blogger adedmat said...

first?

7/14/2006 04:46:00 PM  
Blogger oxillini said...

i second that!

7/14/2006 04:46:00 PM  
Blogger oxillini said...

crap, i wasn't second

7/14/2006 04:46:00 PM  
Blogger omniscient said...

Hello and third... :)

7/14/2006 04:46:00 PM  
Blogger adedmat said...

close but no cigar

7/14/2006 04:46:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

i just can't get enough of this guy...

7/14/2006 04:47:00 PM  
Blogger Pharmacopaeia said...

mittelwerk = tommy lee jones.

It might as well be the Mittelwerk Foundation now, we've seen sweet f.a. of anyone else...

7/14/2006 04:47:00 PM  
Blogger omniscient said...

Don't worry ox...I wasn't third either... LOL!!

7/14/2006 04:47:00 PM  
Blogger noblelawyer said...

hello

7/14/2006 04:48:00 PM  
Blogger linklane said...

Hmm...Beatnik...sounds like a good name for a person who would hang around the streets of Paris....

7/14/2006 04:48:00 PM  
Blogger Ange said...

Do you think there's anything to the title of the ROT thread: How'd you like a greasy pork sandwich served in a dirty ashtray? - 07/14/06

7/14/2006 04:48:00 PM  
Blogger oxillini said...

mittelwerk= tommy lee jones / brett michaels hybrid!

7/14/2006 04:48:00 PM  
Blogger Pharmacopaeia said...

Greasy pork sandwich served in a dirty ashtray: mmmmm, tastes of BETRAYAL.

7/14/2006 04:49:00 PM  
Blogger oxillini said...

ange: i think the rot guys were just essentially telling beatnik to kiss off.

7/14/2006 04:49:00 PM  
Blogger WeLoveCov said...

So the RoT thread title - just their disgust with the Beatnik's perceived betrayal? Or does Manny have flickr pictures of greasy sammidges??

7/14/2006 04:49:00 PM  
Blogger oxillini said...

no sammiches, just a pie

7/14/2006 04:50:00 PM  
Blogger Idaho Girl said...

I mentioned this on the last section, but no Namaste on this ad from Tommy.


Odd change to not include something so regular.

7/14/2006 04:51:00 PM  
Blogger Andrew said...

A Cuban sandwich is made of pork and the ashtray could be a cigar ashtray.......just a thought

7/14/2006 04:51:00 PM  
Blogger Ange said...

OMG-greasy pork sandwich served in a dirty ashtray is a quote from Weird Science...I knew I'd heard that before:)

7/14/2006 04:51:00 PM  
Blogger lostluvr29 said...

" WeLoveCov said...
So the RoT thread title - just their disgust with the Beatnik's perceived betrayal? Or does Manny have flickr pictures of greasy sammidges?? "
The title refers to the orignal broad band story that was in the place that MW's is now. It was about some dudes and a sandwich cafe or something. (yes I need a life..hahaha)

7/14/2006 04:51:00 PM  
Blogger Lost In Portugal said...

Mittelwerk looking younger or just better makeup?

7/14/2006 04:51:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Mittelwerk in a white lab coat: Business lives and dies on communication and when your business is extending life and improving health, advancing technology to mend an injured planet, communication can literally mean the differemce between life and death.

As President and Chief Technologsit of The Hanso Foundation, it is my job to make sure that the beneficial work of this multi-lingual, multi-national, multi-discipline organization reaches every one of the good people we are trying to help. THF isn't just about the cutting edge of science, it's about bringing people together, from prize-winning scientists to villagers in the developing world under the banner of "better living through innovation."

Without broadband we would be completely in the dark. Our ability to communicate relies on real-time video conferencing, uploading and downloading vast quantities of information and the lightening fast transmission of email around the world and back. A lot of people think the medical, education, scientific advancements made by THF are a godsend. And they are right, but, if you ask me, it is the godsend of broadband that truly allows us to reach out for a better tomorrow and do what we must.

7/14/2006 04:51:00 PM  
Blogger oxillini said...

ange: nice! will chet be the brains behind this whole operation?

7/14/2006 04:52:00 PM  
Blogger Pharmacopaeia said...

Awesome, cheers MAven.

7/14/2006 04:52:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

I couldn't be in the top ten because I was working on the transcript. NO FAIR!

7/14/2006 04:52:00 PM  
Blogger Andrew said...

Quick ange rent the move and look for clues

7/14/2006 04:53:00 PM  
Blogger ambersumiko said...

Fiberoptician
11:01am What in the world will happen now? Think he gave out the password and codes to the ROT?
iobiSeeingYou
11:05am No way. He wouldn't...
DSLerator
11:10am I have a bad feeling about this.

^^^^ This makes me VERY excited!!

7/14/2006 04:53:00 PM  
Blogger Pharmacopaeia said...

What a smug bastard.

Our ability to communicate relies on real-time video conferencing, uploading and downloading vast quantities of information

... likewise with Rachel :)

7/14/2006 04:53:00 PM  
Blogger Ange said...

LOL andrew! Here is a link to the quote form the movie:
http://porksandwichdirtyashtray.ytmnd.com/
Weird Science...isn't that what's going on at Hanso!

7/14/2006 04:53:00 PM  
Blogger WeLoveCov said...

mmmm...pie

lostluvr29, I bow to you

7/14/2006 04:54:00 PM  
Blogger Matt the Pale said...

That was a nice Star Wars quote at the end.

7/14/2006 04:54:00 PM  
Blogger Andrew said...

ange thats too funny

7/14/2006 04:55:00 PM  
Blogger RyaNDrumZ said...

Now what do we do?? We have all weekend...

7/14/2006 04:56:00 PM  
Blogger oxillini said...

does anyone else think "it is the godsend of broadband that truly allows us to reach out for a better tomorrow and do what we must" sounds like he realizes thf is not looked upon favorably but is moving forward for the good of humanity (in his twisted, rat-tailed head).

7/14/2006 04:56:00 PM  
Blogger noblelawyer said...

but bigger Kudos for doing the transcript Maven - being in the top ten is just luck of timing.

7/14/2006 04:57:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Okay, I am mad!!! My PC is going bonkers and I am done work and won't be able to check back until later tonight!!! Anyway, cool video, only had video, no speakers!!! Talk to you all soon!!!

Peace & Namaste!

7/14/2006 04:57:00 PM  
Blogger Takala said...

Just when I thought the game was slowing down! Well looks like Persephone's been taken to Hades..wonder if she'll resurface?

Can't wait to see what path this takes now that our guide's MIA.

7/14/2006 04:58:00 PM  
Blogger noblelawyer said...

I thought so too MTP

7/14/2006 04:58:00 PM  
Blogger lostluvr29 said...

Hey noblelawer, did you make a myspace just for TLE? I did and I notice that your page is mostly lost related too...lol.
My friends are probably thinking...I didnt know she had a myspace...and who are those freinds she has on there...LOL.

7/14/2006 04:59:00 PM  
Blogger potterhead360 said...

I love how the sidebar of the BB story tell us to visit the hanso foundation, yet the site is still down. Way to be on the cutting edge of communication.

7/14/2006 05:01:00 PM  
Blogger noblelawyer said...

Yep, Lostluvr. Just did it for TLE, never had any inclination to get on myspace before. Now also use AIM again and have not used that in years - just for TLE

7/14/2006 05:01:00 PM  
Blogger adedmat said...

Even though the THF link doesn't work on that video it makes me wonder if maybe the THF site might come back up.

7/14/2006 05:01:00 PM  
Blogger noblelawyer said...

LOL potter!

7/14/2006 05:01:00 PM  
Blogger WeLoveCov said...

oxillini - I agree with you. Mittelwerk has a god complex and thinks he knows that is right for the world and he is going to do it no matter what. These videos are meant to show us more about what he is all about...

7/14/2006 05:02:00 PM  
Blogger linklane said...

I went back and looked at Beatnik post on ROT.

There is 6/30 instance where he is the only one in the message board. He is pointing out, at the time, the DJ Dan podcast.

Pretty tight ties with DJ Dan to know that on 6/30....and no more stated updates coming from DJ Dan....and Beatnik has left.....and DJ Dan is on BBS.com....

Beatnik=DJ Dan=RBs hero knocking on the door in Paris

7/14/2006 05:03:00 PM  
Blogger oxillini said...

anyone else think christopher walken would have made a great mittelwerk? come on abc, spend the bucks!

7/14/2006 05:03:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Thanks, noblelawyer. I even remembered some shorthand skills from way in my past!

7/14/2006 05:04:00 PM  
Blogger pilsbaryfroboy said...

wait i don't see it, where's the video?

7/14/2006 05:04:00 PM  
Blogger lostluvr29 said...

" noblelawyer said...
Yep, Lostluvr. Just did it for TLE, never had any inclination to get on myspace before. Now also use AIM again and have not used that in years - just for TLE"

LMAO--sounds familiar. I joined and participated in my first blog, created a blogger account, got a myspace and flickr account all for the purpose of playing TLE. I've almost been tempted to get an aim account too..lol.

7/14/2006 05:05:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

THF is still done. Maybe that Verizon link will work shortly?

7/14/2006 05:05:00 PM  
Blogger Scout said...

There's also a video from DJ Dan on Broadband stories.....Didn't see anyone else mention this?

7/14/2006 05:06:00 PM  
Blogger Fenris said...

Another line from Mittlewerks video "uploading and downloading vast quantities of information". I feel another "hmmm" comming on.

Wow, I kept refeshing and still had 50 posts here before I even got to look at the comments. This place is fast and hectic these days!

7/14/2006 05:06:00 PM  
Blogger amlocke said...

DJ Dan - No New Podcast scheduled
GG/Darla - DEAD
Hugh - DEAD
Rachel Blake - DEAD (IMHO)
ROTs - In huge trouble, may be marked for death.

I like it.

7/14/2006 05:07:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

lostluvr29 and noblelawyer: LOL. I've never done any of this stuff before. I've never had a blogger account. I got flickr because I can see some future use for that. I'm relying on all of you re the myspace stuff and AIM, though. I refuse to get into that.

7/14/2006 05:07:00 PM  
Blogger Fenris said...

Scout - that's been there a while. But odd to have it there still while Mittlewerk is there.

7/14/2006 05:07:00 PM  
Blogger smokey2271 said...

What about the title of this piece of work? "The President's Precedent" any good anagrams for that?

7/14/2006 05:08:00 PM  
Blogger noblelawyer said...

I bought a new state of the art laptop to play TLE!

7/14/2006 05:08:00 PM  
Blogger Scout said...

Oh, sorry. Didn't see any mention of it.

7/14/2006 05:09:00 PM  
Blogger Idaho Girl said...

Ox, they couldn't use known actors if they wanted to assume the reality aspect.

I think TWM's God complex is going to keep coming out as time goes on. Anyone else thinking HITLER yet?

And I don't think THF.org is gone. Just being re-worked because it was so badly hacked.


WV: [b]orgy[/b]mroq

7/14/2006 05:10:00 PM  
Blogger Idaho Girl said...

Oops. Guess I need html 101.

7/14/2006 05:10:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Wherever Mittelwerk goes death and destruction follows. I'm cutting a wide path around him!

7/14/2006 05:13:00 PM  
Blogger Fenris said...

amlocke, to be more optimistic.

DJ Dan - actively searching for Alvar Hanso, hence the 2 week wait according to the podcast

GG/Darla - Hiding out. Maybe she was set up, like Rachel but her and Hugh got wise and turn the tables on their would be assasins. Having not seen the news article (strange news that appears only on Rachels laptop, hmmmm) we don't know how the bodies were identified.

Hugh - See above

Rachel Blake - Perhaps it was Hugh at her door, to save her from beeing knocked off.

ROT - Well, they are a paranoid lot. Maybe they are just continuing that trend.

7/14/2006 05:13:00 PM  
Blogger RyaNDrumZ said...

Never give up persephone....

7/14/2006 05:13:00 PM  
Blogger noblelawyer said...

nite all- going out for a drink!

7/14/2006 05:13:00 PM  
Blogger Anne said...

Ok, I have played all of them and it's not there. Did they take it down already or am I missing something?

7/14/2006 05:13:00 PM  
Blogger FYSB said...

My guess? It's Peter Thompson at the door. He's been balking at Mittelwerk's plans and when he saw that Hugh had been killed, he couldn't be on the Hanso side anymore. Never underestimate the power of SURVIVOR GUILT.

Another thought...there's still a hacker getting stuff out of THF-who gave us the Spider memo?

7/14/2006 05:13:00 PM  
Blogger Idaho Girl said...

So . . . how did Manny know that the conversation would happen today???


He needs to be careful about heads-ups like that.

7/14/2006 05:14:00 PM  
Blogger amlocke said...

fenris,
not to be argumentative but...

DJ Dan - COULD BE actively searching for Alvar Hanso, hence the 2 week wait according to the podcast.
but no date scheduled.

GG/Darla - Hiding out. Maybe she was set up, like Rachel but her and Hugh got wise and turn the tables on their would be assasins. Having not seen the news article (strange news that appears only on Rachels laptop, hmmmm) we don't know how the bodies were identified.
Rachel read the article so I would believe her. And making it public would be a smart move. Wait til THF is back up and I bet we'll see it.

Hugh - See above
See above.

Rachel Blake - Perhaps it was Hugh at her door, to save her from beeing knocked off.
Doubtful. why would Mel0drama post what he did? He posted the way to get to it. LISTEN (password), LOOK (eye), WATCH (the video))

ROT - Well, they are a paranoid lot. Maybe they are just continuing that trend.
Beatnik betrayed them. So it isn't looking good.

To be honest, this is what the game needed. A HUGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE twist.

7/14/2006 05:16:00 PM  
Blogger pilsbaryfroboy said...

yea i don't see the video, and i also have played them all.

7/14/2006 05:17:00 PM  
Blogger Kinetic said...

clear up the lag guys :)

chat over on Lost Experience Clues chat

or use an irc client

irc.icq.net
#lostclues

7/14/2006 05:18:00 PM  
Blogger Idaho Girl said...

I can't use chat programs at work.

Thanks for the invitation though.

7/14/2006 05:20:00 PM  
Blogger lostluvr29 said...

Lol Maven :)

7/14/2006 05:20:00 PM  
Blogger trevdiddy said...

everyone notice that TVM is no longer Dr. TVM.....and hes now known as chief technologist...just thought it was interestin that it changed since he was found to have no medical degree

7/14/2006 05:21:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

trevdiddy: Plus he's President. He's definitely in charge now.

7/14/2006 05:22:00 PM  
Blogger NoIQ said...

Is it unreasonable to think Beatnik is the one at the door, or at least he hasn't joined the dark side? The ROT guys suggest that they saw him packing the day before he disappeared. While they assume he's betrayed them, there's no such real info. I think it's an obvious twist for the game, in part because if you go through the earlier ROT threads, you'll discover Beatnik is the one who had a crush on Rachel (i.e. the discussion of how she looks cute in a Pizza uniform and reminds them of the new intern "Kate")...

Anyway, at a minimum, I am not convinced he's betrayed them

7/14/2006 05:22:00 PM  
Blogger NoIQ said...

maven --

Even when the Hanso site was up, TWM's bio indicated he was both President and CTO. My memory is that it even said Alvar picked him for that role personally. I think that was part of the reason the clue to Persephone's hack on his bio was "theheirapparent".

7/14/2006 05:25:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

My gut reaction is that the guy at the door sounded threatening to me. Probably Mr. Fixit out to seek his revenge on the Iron Lady!

7/14/2006 05:25:00 PM  
Blogger Fenris said...

amlocke - Argumentative is fine (as long as we don't start calling each other names and throwing dung at each other). I was only making a counter-point post to yours to achieve a kinda balance. I'm not convinced by my own argument it's just a possibility. I actually do that to myself sometimes on these forums. Just try and consider the different sides.

But where I do definetly aggree is that a big twist was needed to make things really interesting.

7/14/2006 05:26:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Thanks, noiq. Didn't remember that. However, everything we've seen recently definitely sends off the vibes that this guy is in charge and a force to be reckoned with. By being more the public face of THF, he is asserting his power now.

7/14/2006 05:28:00 PM  
Blogger Fenris said...

Kinetic - another chat room? I'm already in two (#lostexp and #lostclueteam) and I can see tumbleweed rolling in both (and one has like 33 people in). If there are actually people talking there, I'm up for it though. :)

7/14/2006 05:28:00 PM  
Blogger ZeroDark said...

Looks like Hanso is on the offensive. Favorable PR by day, murder by night. They moved in on GG, P and are probably just getting started w/ the ROTers. If DJ Dan gets out of this scott free, we'll have a good reason not to trust him.

7/14/2006 05:28:00 PM  
Blogger amlocke said...

naw i dont' name call, I reserve that for ITE!

but seriously, I just think the direction headed is to "kill off" the characters at this point. and I'm still not convinced RB=P.

7/14/2006 05:29:00 PM  
Blogger linklane said...

noiq:
DJ Dan states on July 10 it is a two week break

Beatnik had Boxes to allegedly pack things up in and go

Beatnik had a close tie to DJ Dan via June 30 podcast

DJ Dan and Beatnik have shared their interest in/for RB

I agree, Beatnik has not betrayed ROT board

Still gotta feel DJDAN=Beatnik

and is the most likely character to be trying to save RB based on love interest

Seems more viable to me than some discussions that PT is to be a hero for RB

7/14/2006 05:30:00 PM  
Blogger Fenris said...

To counter myself - if it was Hugh at the door, who was ringing the phone? I suppose it could have been Gidget. Nothing worse then someone knocking at your door while the phone is ringing and someone is shooting at you. I mean, I'd be shouting at the phone "Hang on! I'm being shot at damn it!". Synchronicity, gotta love it (or is it Murphys law in this case).

7/14/2006 05:30:00 PM  
Blogger Idaho Girl said...

Yeah, everything kind of exploded around her all at once. Gun shots, person at the door, etc.

Timing is key.

7/14/2006 05:32:00 PM  
Blogger Fenris said...

linklane, that is a good damn call! Nice one. At the least perhaps Beatnik has joined DJDan on his quest to find Hanso. Perhaps the next podcast will be from Europe.

7/14/2006 05:33:00 PM  
Blogger WeLoveCov said...

Beatnik = Rachel's rescuer is a COOL idea...the RoTsters were more or less on our level, so its almost like a player becoming a character...

7/14/2006 05:34:00 PM  
Blogger Princechuck said...

Where's the twist? If you were TVM and knew that GG was going to spill the beans, you'd have her "taken care of" too. And the TVM video is up on the website because BBB placed it there before he left. Question is, did he get threatened and ran off, or did he go to the dark side? And who's knocking at her door....hmmmm, Kermit? Naaaaaa, my money is on Rachel getting killed and you get to see that Hanso is doing us all a favor. No matter how you try to improve the world, there will be casualties. Sad that they have to go above the law to get it done.

7/14/2006 05:35:00 PM  
Blogger linklane said...

fenris:
the phone was ringing to keep RB from using it to call for help...iron man would have seen to it she could not communicate while he was picking her off through the window

And, Hugh, well, its done, dead is dead. I for one would be disappointed in TPTB if they pulled a fast one like he died and then no he didnt -- doesnt seem likely

7/14/2006 05:35:00 PM  
Blogger NoIQ said...

I had originally assumed it was TWM's thug who got nailed with the iron at the door. I do agree it sounds more threatening than helpful. The phone call would presumably be someone trying to warn Rachel -- assuming GG is dead, perhaps as noted in my earlier post, Beatnik? Or MelOdrama. Or even the guy who she convinced to kill the Jeep deal (remember, he too was on her side).

linklane -- I understand your connections, but I don't think DJ Dan is Beatnik. The ROTs members imply more than once (including in the present thread) that Beatnik works with servers. DJ Dan just doesn't come across as techno-savy. I mean remember how he didn't know what nano-technology was? He's too Art Bell, and not enough Linus Torvalds, in my opinion.

7/14/2006 05:36:00 PM  
Blogger amlocke said...

RB is gone. She's been captured and probably being tortured as we speak.

7/14/2006 05:37:00 PM  
Blogger Princechuck said...

My question is....who's going to buy newswire.com? That's the website that the article was on yet it doesn't exist

7/14/2006 05:38:00 PM  
Blogger Fenris said...

Linklane - yeah I know. It's what I plan to do if they come after me though ;)

Okay, so if your idea is right then the HansoGoons are being clever for once. That is shocking, but it does make it all suddenly a lot more sinister. I can entertain that though, an execution. Maybe her last act was to email that link.

Very sinister. A video from a dead girl.

7/14/2006 05:38:00 PM  
Blogger TEAM Lena said...

Hey all! Darn it! STUPID DIAL UP...

Gotta play catch up now...

I see some chatter about DJDan in here so far. Remember if ANYONE wants to take part in the DJDan research, just email me, and I will put you in! :)

7/14/2006 05:38:00 PM  
Blogger linklane said...

Looking at Beatniks post on ROT and the sly humor in his posts almost has, to me, has a familiarity of DJ Dan style

7/14/2006 05:39:00 PM  
Blogger Fenris said...

Was Beatnik ever on aim?

7/14/2006 05:40:00 PM  
Blogger NoIQ said...

princechuck --

Again, the ROT guys assume that BBB was the one who hosted the Mittelwork commercial. However, in the earliest threads they also acknowledged that Verizon was working with Hanso, so presumably anyone else could have hosted it too.

BBB may well prove to be a traitor. I still think, though, his implied crush on Rachel suggests he very well may have left for other reasons. I suppose time will tell.

7/14/2006 05:40:00 PM  
Blogger omniscient said...

amlocke: If RB is gone...how did that video get posted...are you saying that her captors/kidnappers/torturers sent that video out to us? What would be the point of that?

7/14/2006 05:40:00 PM  
Blogger RyaNDrumZ said...

Look for the ROTsters on AIM...

I don;t have that at work...

WV = yezzs

7/14/2006 05:42:00 PM  
Blogger jenni said...

wow very interesting video (rachel) and the other too i guess.

wonder how long till we hear from rachel...(or dont hear as the case may be, then someone else)...hmm.

7/14/2006 05:42:00 PM  
Blogger amlocke said...

omniscient,

She could have been streaming that to the server. it was cut off, a script kicked off, and the video was sent to mel0. It would fit with a lot of the things she has done.

7/14/2006 05:42:00 PM  
Blogger TEAM Lena said...

BTW...I got a VERY WEIRD myspace message today from

http://www.myspace.com/plastobambola

It said:

SHADE is coming. Whose side are you on?

AND THIS IS BIG LETTERS:
HANSOPPRESSION

Does anyone know ANYTHING about this myspacer? He doesnt allow new friend request without knowing security questions. He has Speaker, Mandrakewig, and Ninja in his friends BUT NOT ON THE TOP 8.

Just plum weird!

7/14/2006 05:43:00 PM  
Blogger Princechuck said...

BBB's liking for Rachel could be the cause of his defection. I mean...Hanso calls and says BBB, we've got 2 options, we kill rachel, or you run with us and we give her to you. Sounds like a deal to me, he's a computer guy, they get no action so maybe a warm body would suit his fancy?

7/14/2006 05:43:00 PM  
Blogger WeLoveCov said...

I said before that if RB is pushing up daisies, whoever killed her could have used her computer to do all sorts of things. Like post to her blog, or email the video to mel0drama.

7/14/2006 05:43:00 PM  
Blogger WeLoveCov said...

The point of Rachel's killers sending out video would be:
1) scare all of us following her blog
2) flush out mel0drama

7/14/2006 05:44:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Lena: SHADE is a campaign that the numbers forum is working on to bombard ABC with email and maybe demonstrations at affiliates re the ARG. You can read about it over there.

7/14/2006 05:45:00 PM  
Blogger Andrew said...

shout out to lena

7/14/2006 05:45:00 PM  
Blogger Karl said...

Could someone give a direct link to the video? When I go to broadbandstories.com all I get is a blank orange page with the copyright links.

7/14/2006 05:46:00 PM  
Blogger scoutpost said...

Lena- SHADE is an effort that one of the other blog sites is staging- they are going to protest Hanso at ComicCon. Or something like that.

7/14/2006 05:46:00 PM  
Blogger linklane said...

welovecov:
I tend to put more faith in Speaker at http://blogs.abc.com/inside_the_experience/

He has been reassuring, RB is fine is the message I get from him as the "insider"

And Speaker seemed to be letting us know this week was going to get interesting

IMHO

7/14/2006 05:46:00 PM  
Blogger FYSB said...

Aw, she ain't dead. Too many unanswered questions...like who the heck were Mom and Dad? And why was she on the quest? She may go underground for a while (maybe this is where Casablanca ties in...the French Resistance Underground) but this whole thing will end with a final video of her waving to the camera, sipping a pina colada, happy at last.

7/14/2006 05:47:00 PM  
Blogger Andrew said...

lena shoot to the chat room

7/14/2006 05:48:00 PM  
Blogger adedmat said...

the shade conversation was posted in yesterdays comments. Don't remember if if was tailsection site or the numbers site.

7/14/2006 05:49:00 PM  
Blogger WeLoveCov said...

linklane - I said IF she was dead...we have to wait and see, right? I agree she is most probably alive, but she COULD be dead and certain things would still make sense. I haven't looked at Speaker's site in weeks, it is more annoying than helpful. But thanks for the pointer. :)

7/14/2006 05:49:00 PM  
Blogger linklane said...

RB is alive, IMHO, she had to coordinate getting anonymous emails to mel0drama with video attached and instructions

RB was "saved" by the person the door, IMHO

The intrigue is, who was at the door.

7/14/2006 05:49:00 PM  
Blogger NoIQ said...

I continue to believe if you look at everything, it's highly unlikely that RB is dead.

In addition to the fact that the video was sent by someone to MelOdrama (assuming that blog entry really was him -- that too has not been resolved, btw, even though it seems more and more legit), remember his exact final instructions AFTER he purportedly received the video included the following:

"Okay. I've calmed down... one last try. I've set up the username/pass as the email directed me to. If it was really you who sent it, Rachel, post them to your blog. If I don't hear from you in one hour, I'll have to take matters into my own hands. I hope I'm not playing into their hands."

That instruction states that RB will update the blog with the UN/PW -- not him. It just doesn't smell of a Hanso trap.

Finally, let's not forget one final act that occurred after MelOdrama posted he already had the video -- namely, Rachel updated her actual travel blog. If someone had already killed her, and Hanso wanted to cover that up, the last thing they would due is create a server entry (i.e. blog entry) that could easily be verified to have been made after the time of death (which can be reasonably estimated).

7/14/2006 05:52:00 PM  
Blogger Idaho Girl said...

I agree Link.

Wouldn't the bigger twist be if it's Mr. Fixit and he's been trying to help her all along?

Bummer about the iron to his head, then.

7/14/2006 05:52:00 PM  
Blogger Princechuck said...

Perhaps she's dead and the knock on the door is the blood transfusion guy to give her a refill and turn her evil? Phonecall was her boyfriend to let her know he's picking up some pizza?

7/14/2006 05:52:00 PM  
Blogger TEAM Lena said...

Thank you maven and everyone!! I was in the dark about that STUPID DIAL UP! LOL I am now and forever going to blame EVERYTHING on STUPID DIAL UP.

Ok, Andrew, be there is just a sec!

7/14/2006 05:53:00 PM  
Blogger linklane said...

Who was at the door....good cliff hanger stuff....a basis for any good storyline

(IMHO, thats where Pirates went wrong this summer, instead of showing us who came down the stairs at the end, we would have been better off to see that person from the back with a suttle hint of someone eating an apple. The intrigue and the scary stuff is always best left to the audiences imagination. Sorry to get off-topic)

7/14/2006 05:54:00 PM  
Blogger smokey2271 said...

True if a bad guy wanted in her room I doubt he would bother to announce himself...

7/14/2006 05:54:00 PM  
Blogger Idaho Girl said...

Hey!!!


Some of us still haven't seen Pirates yet.

7/14/2006 05:55:00 PM  
Blogger FYSB said...

Oh, I like that theory Idaho Girl. Kind of like Terminator 2, when Ah-nuld comes out of the elevator and scares the crap out of Sarah..."Come with me if you want to live"

Or, princechuck's theory is pretty good too.

7/14/2006 05:56:00 PM  
Blogger linklane said...

idaho girl:
Sorry, I had typed SPOILER warning in my message but lost it when going back to correct some typos

I can delete that post if you think it could be to revealing for others

Again, sorry

7/14/2006 05:58:00 PM  
Blogger thinbluemime said...

where is the "hole of humanity"?

7/14/2006 05:58:00 PM  
Blogger WeLoveCov said...

linklane - I have become a fan of the idea that person at door = BBB, coming to rescue Rachel for wuv*

*Nd-Nd: And what is this emotion you humans call "wuv"?
Lrrr: Surely it says "love"?
Nd-Nd: No, 'wuv.' With an Earth 'w.' Behold!
Lrrr: This concept of wuv confuses and infuriates us!

WV: ybripa - Why Indeed be Kelly Ripa?

7/14/2006 05:58:00 PM  
Blogger scoutpost said...

noiq- maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but RB's travel log/Paris entry was there at least an hour before the hidden video surfaced.

Idaho girl- I agree with you re: Mandrake Wig posting that something big would happen on ROT today...how would he know unless he were on the Hanso side or unless this is just something we are supposed to overlook.

7/14/2006 06:00:00 PM  
Blogger Christine#2 said...

omg people, is Rachel ok? I mean, how could she post her video on the internet if she was dead?

7/14/2006 06:03:00 PM  
Blogger Princechuck said...

I think the Manny tip was TPTBs way of saying.... I know we use to post every 7 days however there were alot of people on vacation and with us trying to preview the crops of new shows for this season, we just..... spaced it off so we'll post tomorrow ok?

7/14/2006 06:03:00 PM  
Blogger Victor said...

Pillow Pants!

7/14/2006 06:08:00 PM  
Blogger Idaho Girl said...

No, I think Manny is more rogue than he should be. I think it's someone who knows what's going on and can't always keep it under his hat.

It's one thing for Speaker to say that something is coming up. That's his part of the job.

Manny posted that something would be on RoT today. Fine. If it had been a link to something, I'd be ok with it.

But since what was posted was a conversation with date and time stamps of today, and reference to a new video that was uploaded today, he seems VERY psychic about the RoT things.

I just think he needs to stop letting his ego get in the way.

7/14/2006 06:10:00 PM  
Blogger madsweeney said...

I'm pretty sure that it was mel0drama that posted the video for SF. Her statements in the Italy Post 6 comments said something along those lines. (I know that this has probably been said already, but I still see people asking.)

7/14/2006 06:11:00 PM  
Blogger a_restless_heart said...

To all of you who has expressed their opinion that Beatnik did not betray RoT.

Add me to that roster. I don't agree that Beatnik did. The immediate thought I had was that if Beatnik did go to Hanso, it's probably as an infiltrator. Perhaps to make the foundation's servers easier to access for RB.

I just thought about that, since RB did mention that she had difficulties accessing THF's servers, so with RoT's server expert there, open sesame.

One possibility out of the hundreds. As for the twist, "whodathunkit?!"

7/14/2006 06:12:00 PM  
Blogger NoIQ said...

scoutpost --

MelOdrama's posts occurred a few hours before the updates. Look at the 6:06 entry for melOdrama near the end of the thread the day before. The general update and the first post to the blogsite both occurred after that message -- but more to the point, they occurred after the video was presumably sent to MelOdrama. If she actually were dead and it was intended as a trap, the server/blog entry discrepencies would be a remarkably easy way to uncover the fabrication.

7/14/2006 06:13:00 PM  
Blogger March4marc said...

Wow, I must admit, because of this blog, I decided to join blogspot. I've been following this blog ever since clue #13!!! Great job guys... you amaze me everytime!

7/14/2006 06:15:00 PM  
Blogger Yakobus1 said...

ok, maybe nothing, but he didn't move his right arm the entire time...

7/14/2006 06:16:00 PM  
Blogger Howard said...

Greetings to all

I have watched Rachel's video 3 times and I do not think she is telling us that Darla is(was?) GIdget Girl. I think she is apologizing to Darla for not getting the information Rachel thinks might have saved Darla. I think she is calling to GidgetGirl to give her the package and help avenge Darla's death.

Just one entertainment lawyer's opinion.

Namast-Go
Howard

7/14/2006 06:22:00 PM  
Blogger Christine#2 said...

so melodrama is the one who posted the video... Rachel I thought that was Mittleweks voice at you door!!! oh no :(

7/14/2006 06:23:00 PM  
Blogger adedmat said...

yakobus1
He did move both arms in the commercial though:)

7/14/2006 06:23:00 PM  
Blogger Jake_4815162369 said...

You guys had better be keeping the fun alive in the chat room. 'Cause if you're not...

7/14/2006 06:23:00 PM  
Blogger Izzyjman said...

not to be mean, but couldnt TPTB hire an actress better than Jamie Silberhartz, she acts so fake. I also want to wish Matthew Fox (Jack Shephard) a happy birthday. I also think we will find out the RoT gangs real names and what they do soon.

7/14/2006 06:24:00 PM  
Blogger scoutpost said...

Thanks noiq- I figured I missed something and misunderstood. I wasn't clear on the whole Mel0drama tie in and timing.

7/14/2006 06:25:00 PM  
Blogger FYSB said...

Perhaps it was Bole at the door...."Open this door! I brought you a pie!"

7/14/2006 06:25:00 PM  
Blogger Yakobus1 said...

cool, just an observation

7/14/2006 06:25:00 PM  
Blogger omniscient said...

howard: Rachel distinctly states toward the end of the video "I have always known that GidgetGirl was Hugh's mistress"...and the picture they show of the person that was killed is the same woman that was in the scandalous Hugh pics...and she refers to the woman that was killed as Darla


Therefore...GG = Darla

7/14/2006 06:26:00 PM  
Blogger omniscient said...

She also says..."GidgetGirl, Darla was a good person!" which is more than implying that they are one and the same...

7/14/2006 06:29:00 PM  
Blogger Christine#2 said...

so guys, are we at a dead end now? No new clues in the videos we got, Rachel is "gone" who is going to help us now? Where do we go from here?

7/14/2006 06:29:00 PM  
Blogger Fenris said...

I suspect Rachel is alive. Someone was at her door though, it was either a rescuer (in which case I would expect another post) or someone trying to capture her (they didn't seem to want to kill her, perhaps the shooting was to stop her trying to escape through the window). I can't see rachel getting out of there (least not believably), so someone rescued her or someone captured her. Either way I think we will see her again. But if she is captured maybe not for a while.

Mind you according to Matt the Pale we are at the halfway point (or just past it anyway), perfect time to change protagonists.

7/14/2006 06:30:00 PM  
Blogger omniscient said...

christine#2: Yeah, we really don't have any other leads at this point...but I don't think we can count Rachel out just yet...

7/14/2006 06:30:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

lena: you probably won't see this, but "hi".

christine: mel0drama posted it...

march4marc: thank you for joining! :)

I've been in and out of meetings all day and haven't had too much time to actively play along... tho I have been playing off and on and have been here for the clues enough to keep up... I just want to say that everyone here has done such a great job of keeping the comments going and on topic... Reading through the comments that I wasn't here for, I just keep smiling at how helpful everyone has been towards each other... it makes me even more proud to be a part of this experience... ppl always keep it clean on this blog and we rarely have to delete any of the comments... the regulars here (you know who you are, I won't list you) make this blog the place where everyone playing this game knows they can come for fast, friendly help and any answers they might need...

When Administrator gets back, he'll have no problem at all getting caught up to speed thanks to all your comments.

btw, I think Rachel's still alive...

7/14/2006 06:37:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

see Speaker's definition of tumbleweed

I hate being the comment killer...

7/14/2006 06:44:00 PM  
Blogger omniscient said...

I'm still here belly. And I think RB's still around too...

But something occurred to me...

Mel0drama said that if he hadn't heard from Rachel in an hour, he would have to "take matters into his own hands" and he hoped he "wasn't playing into their hands"

Could Mel be the one at Rachel's door?? He implied they have alot of correspondence behind the scenes...hmmm.

7/14/2006 06:46:00 PM  
Blogger omniscient said...

Nevermind...that makes no sense...LOL!! How could he be at the door and receive the video of him being at the door...

Sorry...that was retarded!! LOL :)

7/14/2006 06:47:00 PM  
Blogger oodles said...

I don't get it.
Why/how was Rachel able to send the video, instructions (un/pw) and blog login details to mel0drama AFTER the shooting incident, but could not send it to the blog herself?
If someone else had obtained the video from Rachel, how could they have known her login details for the blog? And what would be the point as it all points the finger at THF anyway.
The timeline does not match either:

4:08 PM Mel0Drama said...
Rachel? Are you there? I was sent a video of you from an email account I don't recognize. The video is disturbing. I'm afraid for you. Did you send it to me?

5:56 PM Mel0Drama said...
Rachel, I'm taking your silence as a call for help. I know you wanted to make sure these videos are secure, but I think people need to see this video. I'm putting it where a lot of people can find it. I only hope you're not... no, I have to stop with the bad thoughts!
listen, look and watch

6:06 PM Mel0Drama said...
Okay. I've calmed down... one last try. I've set up the username/pass as the email directed me to. If it was really you who sent it, Rachel, post them to your blog. If I don't hear from you in one hour, I'll have to take matters into my own hands. I hope I'm not playing into their hands.
Gosh. Worried again.

@ 6:01 PM Rachel or someone with access to her blog
posted the milkcartonman & pic from video with bullet hole (?) in it (in a digital image???)

5:13 PM Paris, France update on Holiday front page

Something stinks.

Also:
If Gidgetgirl = Darla = dead
Killed before she could deliver 'the package'; in car with McIntyre so perhaps McIntyre = package (as someone said earlier); that'd be a way for Rachel to recognise her.
Killed on the way to the meeting? If that is so, how did the killers know about meet location and approach road? Could they have monitored the communications?

If Gidgetgirl NOT = Darla, and Rachel was lured into trap, where were McIntyre and Darla going? If they were on the way to the meet location, then they must have equally been fooled by the GG imposter.

I assume the (non-)meeting and the accident happened on Thursday afternoonish. The video was produced in Rachel's lodgings during daytime hours. Must have been some hours after the accident as the police/media normally have an embargo on such info until next of kin have been informed. Still Thursday or did she make the video today?

I find the theory that it wasn't her who was shot at but the guy outside the door quite plausible. Had someone followed her from the meet location then they surely took their time to attack (video production time). The knock on the door comes within a second of the shots being fired, as does the ringing (phone? alarm? don't know what French phones sound like). So who is at the door? Even though it does not make much sense: I think he sounds like Mittelwerk.

7/14/2006 06:48:00 PM  
Blogger Christine#2 said...

we still havent seen the email gg sent her...

7/14/2006 06:50:00 PM  
Blogger Christine#2 said...

maybe rachel sent Melodrama the email while she was hiding under the bed...

7/14/2006 06:52:00 PM  
Blogger omniscient said...

I don't think there is any question that GG = Darla...if you read the transcript, Rachel makes it VERY CLEAR that is the case...

7/14/2006 06:53:00 PM  
Blogger omniscient said...

christine#2: I think Rachel must have figured out that email on her own...she was at the meeting location after all. I guess she didn't need our help with that.

7/14/2006 06:54:00 PM  
Blogger just something said...

Hm, now does Mittlewerk seem less evilto you now? He does to me, thislast video especially seems to make him more human. He's not the creepy evil eastern european scientist I thought he was. There seems to be compassion in him now that seems genuine.

This kinda happened to me too when I was watching the Lost Finale and Fenry says he is the good guys. You get the feeling he believes it. Anyhow, I'm feeling like maybe Mittlewerk wants to help Rachel. He seems to be be saying that they want to reach the people who need help. And Rachel sure needs some help right now. It could have been him at the motel door. Maybe Rachey and Mittlewerk are related.

I'm all over the place, but these are my reactions. :)

7/14/2006 06:54:00 PM  
Blogger black lab said...

just to add my 2 cents the pic shows two white spots - it looks like the sun was hitting those spots - the other thing is she waited an hour at the location and then went to go make that video - and then we get the shots fired - I know everyone keeps saying those were bullet holes, The shots happened after that pic was taken. Just a thought!

7/14/2006 06:54:00 PM  
Blogger Howard said...

omniscient said...
She also says..."GidgetGirl, Darla was a good person!" which is more than implying that they are one and the same...

Actually, what she says is:

Gidget Girl, Darla was a good person. We had a trust. I knew from the beginning that she was Hugh’s mistress and she knew that I was Persephone.

A few times, Rachel says "GidgetGirl, Darla" The question is is she saying "GidgetGirl (who was) Darla is..." or is she saying "Gidget Girl, I am telling you that Darla is" Makes all the difference in the world. I think she is speaking to GidgetGirl and imploring her for a second chance in darla's name

Howard

7/14/2006 06:56:00 PM  
Blogger Familia Alves Santos said...

We learn four things today: Darla is dead(and she was realy gidgetgirl), Persephone aka RBlake get caught by someone (dead? don't know) and Broadbandbeatinik is on the otherside.

Where this will lead us?

7/14/2006 06:58:00 PM  
Blogger omniscient said...

Howard:

Rachel: Darla, I’m sorry…I didn’t hold up my end of the deal. If it was a trap, meeting Gidgetgirl here in Paris, I wanted it on camera. If it wasn’t her that called, and it could have been anybody, I thought the camera…maybe that could somehow save me. I arrived ten minutes early…and waited…and waited. Maybe she showed, saw the glasses, knew I had a camera…maybe she balked…I’ll never know. Remember this face?

Why would she be telling DARLA that she didn't hold up her end of the deal with GG? And notice the part about I'LL NEVER KNOW... She is obviously implying that GG (Darla) was killed and she thinks its her fault...

7/14/2006 07:00:00 PM  
Blogger TEAM Lena said...

Maven, andrew, lavenda, and kentic...are you all there?

I am so LOST!!!!

7/14/2006 07:04:00 PM  
Blogger Familia Alves Santos said...

sory four: Mittlewerk is the President of The Hanso Foundation, and is making a massive campaing.

7/14/2006 07:04:00 PM  
Blogger Idaho Girl said...

My understanding of the way it was said, Howard, is that Rachel was saying "GidgetGirl . . . Darla . . . was a good person". She's upset and explaining in the video, and I think she started to say GG out of habit and then corrected herself because we know her name now.

I've watched it a couple of times, and this is how it came across both times to me.

7/14/2006 07:05:00 PM  
Blogger oodles said...

howard, I've been wondering about the intonation myself from the start. It could be "Gidgetgirl, Darla was a good person" (addressed at GG) or "Gidgetgirl - Darla - was a good person" (now that she's dead Rachel can tell us who she was). I tend to lean to the latter interpretation. However, the same happens at the start: Darla, Im sorry .... (clearly addressed at Darla postmortem). If it was a trap, meeting Gidgetgirl here in Paris, I wanted it on camera. Did she switch addressees between those two sentences? The camera angle did change alright.

7/14/2006 07:05:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

Lena: what are you lost about?

7/14/2006 07:06:00 PM  
Blogger Familia Alves Santos said...

Good Night to everybody!

7/14/2006 07:06:00 PM  
Blogger TEAM Lena said...

Was in chat with them and got a call and got booted...STUPID DIAL UP...

SO, I logged in and the chat window is messed up...cant get it to work.

7/14/2006 07:07:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Lena: Let me help you find your way...

7/14/2006 07:07:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Lena, you KNOW I'm not a technical person. Sorry!

7/14/2006 07:09:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

ah... if you're in mIRC, you should just be able to type "/server irc.icq.net" in the main window and when IRC boots up to that server just type "/join #lostclues"

7/14/2006 07:12:00 PM  
Blogger Kinetic said...

Lena i could see ya in chat :) Yes, use mirc ... much more stable than the web interface.

7/14/2006 07:14:00 PM  
Blogger Christine#2 said...

well either way, we have no new leads, so now we have to WAIT to hear more. Let's hope its not as long as a stretch as the one that just ended.

7/14/2006 07:19:00 PM  
Blogger Christine#2 said...

so Do you think Mittlewerk filmed those videos before he got on that ship or what?

7/14/2006 07:25:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Christine#2: I think we do have a lot to talk about until the next clue. I know, Mittelwerk all of a sudden seems to be everywhere! He's on TV in the U.S., on the internet advertising BB, and possibly in Paris, and he's supposed to be on the ship. He's like a Spider, weaving his web everywhere! (Oops, Spider Protocol!)

7/14/2006 07:29:00 PM  
Blogger Boo_Boo_Kitty12 said...

There are lots of good ideas here.

But are we forgetting that TWM was last seen on a boat headed for who knows where?
How could he have been at RB's door if he was on that ship?

Just a thought.

7/14/2006 07:29:00 PM  
Blogger Christine#2 said...

Maybe he found that island, and thats why he looks so much youger.. its not just the makeup, lol

7/14/2006 07:36:00 PM  
Blogger Kylelane said...

On the whole Darla/GG thing - one really intriguing and frustrating thing about this game (and the show) is that when they give you solutions, they always leave wiggle room. Occam's razor sez GG=Darla. But scripting it the way they did muddies the picture. Very intentional - very nefarious - kinda fun...

7/14/2006 07:40:00 PM  
Blogger Christine#2 said...

where did everyone go? did they all leave to chat with team Lena? oh well. Its just me and.....

7/14/2006 07:42:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

It's all in the interpretation!

7/14/2006 07:43:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

I don't see anyone in the chat, either.

7/14/2006 07:43:00 PM  
Blogger Christine#2 said...

it must be dinner time or something. I know it is here in Cali

7/14/2006 07:45:00 PM  
Blogger Boo_Boo_Kitty12 said...

well, i'm still here, but i'm getting ready to go to bed. early night, i have an early morning....ugh!

7/14/2006 07:46:00 PM  
Blogger oodles said...

Just checked the video: forget the cigarette burn/bullet hole thing. Whatever it is, it's on the video too.

7/14/2006 07:51:00 PM  
Blogger Kylelane said...

You know, the trouble is that it's hard to sort out a mystery if you don't have anything you're sure of. I mean, I'm thinking a parallel universe is a pretty darned good idea right about now. There's a good TWM, and a bad one. Hanso is alive, and he's dead, and he's turned into a monkeyman. Just depends on which universe you're peeking into at a given moment. Ack.

7/14/2006 07:51:00 PM  
Blogger Christine#2 said...

well maybe Rachel will get to meet Alvar Hanso.

7/14/2006 08:02:00 PM  
Blogger potterhead360 said...

blak lab is right. the pic had those "spots" when they were in the video

7/14/2006 08:08:00 PM  
Blogger potterhead360 said...

whats more interesting- speaker has yet to update. With the posibility that rachel is dead floating around, i figured he'd post about it

7/14/2006 08:10:00 PM  
Blogger Christine#2 said...

I checked out that website Rachel was on Newswire.com, but I culdnt find it. It seems Fake, or maybe someone else can find the article about the crash..

7/14/2006 08:17:00 PM  
Blogger Christine#2 said...

well it seems all have left. so I will leave the info about the article to tptb for now, see you all later.

7/14/2006 08:30:00 PM  
Blogger Howard said...

Well, right or wrong, this is the first time i have gotten more than one response to something I posted, so I am thrilled.

Still seeking to make a contribution

Howard

7/14/2006 08:43:00 PM  
Blogger mikeyp228 said...

anybody put up rachels new video on youtube yet??

7/14/2006 08:49:00 PM  
Blogger Chelsea said...

Well, I guess we'll find out if Darla = Tonya the next time DJ Dan posts...

7/14/2006 08:49:00 PM  
Blogger scoutpost said...

Just got back and have only skimmed the last 30 or so comments...But I have to say that when I first watched the video, that I thought that RB was addressing GG and Darla as two different people, until I got here and realized that everyone else had interpreted what she said to mean that GG=Darla. So I'm not making any definitive statement, but I see Howard's point in all this and now see that I was not the only one who heard the video blog from a different perspective.

What is up with this WV- kpcktvyg? tricky tricky

7/14/2006 08:56:00 PM  
Blogger skree said...

Rachels Video


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoMdN75nD6

7/14/2006 08:59:00 PM  
Blogger fitz66 said...

dont know if anyone has said this: Has anyone realized the sybolism that this game has taken on. I was just looking at the broadband stories site and I found it very strange that Mittlewerk's video is in the top very easily found and dj dan's video is one the bottom looking like it was ment to be hidden. Also dj dans whole video is black all the way through. But mittlewerks video white. Yet agian this strikes me a as a good (twin) bad (twin) type of thing. It's like this whole game is ying and yang everyone has an alter ego or a hidden agenda. And isn't it funny that a Star Wars video is right inbetween the two which itself is a movie of ying and yangs and alias'. So to what is the significance of al of this maybe just maybe this will all start to blend together of what good vs. evil is. Dj dan will become peter thompson. Alvar hanso will turn out to actually a good guy with a lot of money that just put the decision making in the wrong hands. Even the phrase namaste can mean "The Spirit in me meets the same Spirit in you" which signafies a bond between each other maybe the whole game is to make a realization that we all have a ying and a yang to ourselves but hey maybe im digging too deep.

7/14/2006 09:16:00 PM  
Blogger Jake_4815162369 said...

I don't think that you're digging too deep, Fitz, but the good and evil dynamic runs throughout stories that have always been told. I think the most interesting dynamic that we're going to see emerge is that notion of a powerful individual attempting to do good, but doing evil in an attempt to accomplish it. The classic moral question, does the end justify the mean? That's the main theme wo the Watchmen comic that Walt had.

7/14/2006 09:21:00 PM  

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