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Clue #79 - Fragment Codes "ohge" & "748L"

Code "ohge" was seen on Jorge Garcia's wristband at the San Diego Comic-Con Convention. Speaker at insidetheexperience.com posted some amazing clear pics. The video fragment is a screen reading "THE DHARMA INITIATIVE Copyright 1975 The Hanso Foundation."

Code "748L" was posted on Monday, July 24th, 11:42 AM on Rachel's Blog. The video fragment is more Mittlewerk saying, "You know it by heart. Don't waver."

Thanks to Kenneth, Ali, JennK_68, Christiana, gin*grl, Gavin, MidnightAce, Donn, & Matt for being the first to email us about these new codes!


*See a summary of all the found fragment codes at...
Matt the Pale's HansoExposed Video Fragment Code List

*Having Troubles with hansoexposed.com? Twinkle put together a great walk-through...HansoExposed.com Handbook

326 Comments:

Blogger JoAnn said...

Thanks for the new code

7/24/2006 09:01:00 AM  
Blogger Pedalin Dad said...

Finally, new post... this is crazy... good morning everyone!

Gotta do some work and then I will join in the hunting

7/24/2006 09:01:00 AM  
Blogger Unknown said...

748L

not 7481.

just to clarify.

7/24/2006 09:04:00 AM  
Blogger Lost in Portugal said...

robc: no matter what you type after http://hansoexposed.com/xml/statistics, we will always get the statistics.xml

7/24/2006 09:07:00 AM  
Blogger WickedM said...

So according to the count at HE there are 9 codes out there so far. Outside of the normal sites, were are we supposed to look. I mean jeez - it's like a needle in a haystack without any hints....

(okay I'll stop whining now and continue the hunt.)

7/24/2006 09:16:00 AM  
Blogger RyaNDrumZ said...

Test, Test

Blogg troubles here...

7/24/2006 09:18:00 AM  
Blogger Lost in Portugal said...

robc: The words are usernames :-D

I wonder if all the fragments will be spoon-fed to us like the previous ones. In that case, better just sit down and wait...

7/24/2006 09:26:00 AM  
Blogger Caboose192 said...

Top 20, for once. Thanks for the new codes!

7/24/2006 09:27:00 AM  
Blogger RyaNDrumZ said...

No need to go crazy looking through the web.

I agree with LOST. Just sit back and relax. ENJOY...

7/24/2006 09:30:00 AM  
Blogger sean said...

we cant rule out that there might be fragment codes in the actual fragments.

7/24/2006 09:30:00 AM  
Blogger sean said...

im have having serious blog problems also. my verification doesnt work half the time. the page doesnt refresh properly either.

7/24/2006 09:34:00 AM  
Blogger Olerica said...

I am SO glad that I took yesterday OFF. Whew.

You kids having fun?

7/24/2006 09:35:00 AM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

finally new comments setion but still taking forever to load/re-load. blogger problems.

7/24/2006 09:35:00 AM  
Blogger Phil Evans said...

A pointer about the XML file:

The fragments section of the XML says that while 9 fragments have been released, only 5 have been published. The numbers are Unix timestamps, which is a way of recording a date. The highest "published" number (hence the most recently released) is 1153734286, which corresponds 24 July 2006 @ 09:44:46 GMT. I'm not sure what time zone Rachel's blog is on but I'd be pretty confident that that's the same time.

So what does this mean? If only 5 fragments have "published" dates, does that mean that only 5 have been found, or that only 5 *can* be found?

For you information, the other dates are (leaving out published date if it's the same as the released):

Sat, 22 Jul 2006 17:24:22 GMT published 18:27:13 GMT
Sat, 22 Jul 2006 17:24:54 GMT published 18:28:38 GMT
Sat, 22 Jul 2006 17:25:24 GMT published 23:33:15 GMT
Sat, 22 Jul 2006 17:26:24 GMT published Mon, 24 Jul 2006 05:08:37 GMT
Sat, 22 Jul 2006 17:26:57 GMT
Sat, 22 Jul 2006 17:27:27 GMT
Sat, 22 Jul 2006 17:28:12 GMT
Mon, 24 Jul 2006 09:42:03 GMT published 09:44:46 GMT
Mon, 24 Jul 2006 09:43:30 GMT

Hope this fuels some debate :)

Phil

7/24/2006 09:36:00 AM  
Blogger Phil Evans said...

Shakey - great minds and all that ;)

P

7/24/2006 09:42:00 AM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

i think thats the time someone first used the code and it became a published code.

As for comic con. I have picture proof that Byran Burk had a wrist band on as well... so we have at least his wristband to look for... which would make me assume that carlton cuse would also have one on.... So we need to figure out Daniel Dae Kim's Bracelet, Carlton Cuse's Bracelet, and Byran Burk's Bracelet.

7/24/2006 09:43:00 AM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

has anyone else found dthat sometimes the fragment do not remain on the timeline? I had them in a certain order, saved them. logged out and then logged back in and three of the fragments are in the storage bin rather than the timeline. Does that mean that the two that reamined on the timeline are in the proper order and the others are not?

7/24/2006 09:45:00 AM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

jimbo... the best image we could come up with of his wrist is this:

picture

7/24/2006 09:58:00 AM  
Blogger maven said...

Hi all. Nothing like a little spoon feeding, huh?

When I first entered 748L, I got just a red square in the box. It read: Undefined. Then when I entered it again, I got the fragment. Don't know what that means. Probably nothing.

Blogger is very slow today.

7/24/2006 09:58:00 AM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

finally the comments are back.

JustWillow has put together a nice clear graphic of the glyphs As seen on Ninja's blog

Ninja also links to tapdawg's blog :-D

7/24/2006 10:00:00 AM  
Blogger Melissa_Lossa said...

maven -

the same thing happened to me... I got a red square in the timeline, and then the clip disappeared altogether


Couldn't get on the computer all weekend.... looks like I missed a lot! I spent all day yesterday working on the Hatch jigsaw puzzle instead - almost done! I think I had dreams about Desmond last night... not that that's a bad thing.... ;)

7/24/2006 10:03:00 AM  
Blogger maven said...

Lawenda: Thanks for that ninja link. I bookmarked it!

(Added you to YIM) :)

7/24/2006 10:06:00 AM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

nw Maven :-D

you added me? Funny, I didn't get a friend request. email me your username

7/24/2006 10:08:00 AM  
Blogger maven said...

Dizzy: I'm with you. She tells us the fragments are on the web, and then she (they) dribble them out to us. We don't have to FIND anything.
Hopefully, this will change and this spoonfeeding is just to get us started.

Personally, I don't understand why Rachel gave this glyphs to the producers and actors of a TV show that keep saying nothing is real. After lambasting them at ComicCon, the producers and cast are "helping" her get the word out about an organization (THF) they don't acknowledge. Unless they just thought those fashionable wristbands were kinda cool and they wanted to start a new trend...

7/24/2006 10:10:00 AM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

i feel so honored to be linked to on other peoples websites.... amazing!

7/24/2006 10:12:00 AM  
Blogger Christine said...

good morning all, just got home from work. i see all my searching was in vain over the past day or so! Oh well. But now there are 9 fragments released.

7/24/2006 10:14:00 AM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

new link for Ninja's latest blog :-D

wv: pshndlmm

7/24/2006 10:16:00 AM  
Blogger D said...

The hansoexposed site indicates that nine fragments have been released so far. We seem to only have five codes. Where are the other four?

7/24/2006 10:25:00 AM  
Blogger maven said...

Okay, guys. I can buy the premise that things aren't always what they seem. But on the surface, it was strange to me that after publicly confronting the LOST panel and being "put down" and escorted out, within minutes, they are helping her. And, obviously, this was all preplanned.
So, maybe, this is their way to secretly help her and still put on the public face of support for THF.

jamaster: You created a monster!

7/24/2006 10:27:00 AM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

d, 3 of the other 4 are still on bracelets we havent deciphered.... and the last one is somewhere on the web. my best guess... maybe dj dan's site will update today and have it on there somewhere... maybe on the bottom with the other little icons.

7/24/2006 10:28:00 AM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

maven, since jorge garcia had the wristband on before rachel yelled at him i must come to one of two conclusion:

1. She had spoke with them before hand, and the scene that occured at comic con was staged to make it look like the producers think she's crazy when in actuality they believe her.

2. It was preplanned to occur and hurley wearing the bracelet during the panel was a mistake... and a big one at that. (seeing as noone else had the bracelet on at the time.)

7/24/2006 10:30:00 AM  
Blogger maven said...

tapdawg: It's probably both 1 and 2.

7/24/2006 10:33:00 AM  
Blogger Caboose192 said...

LOL--Look what I just found in one of TapDawg's blog pics:

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j308/sk84ever192/mecimccon.jpg

Too bad we didn't meet up!

7/24/2006 10:37:00 AM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

hahaha very true maven.... very true


wow this site is really laggin today

caboose so you were there! hahaha

7/24/2006 10:39:00 AM  
Blogger maven said...

Anybody with me in saying Mr. Beardy in the fragments is a young Alvar Hanso?

Remember when Mittelwerk, Peter Thompson and unidentified woman had that conversation on the beach in Sanremo. Thompson wanted to know where Alvar was. TWM said: Watch Alvar on the Orientation Film He talks with Valenzetti. I have the DVD.

This video is the first Orientation film (dated 1975) and it's of Alvar Hanso discussing the equation with Valenzetti.


Anybody else having blogger problems?

7/24/2006 10:54:00 AM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

costa check out the last clue section, i already discussed that and stated that i bet another clue will have a combination of these:

16 = P
23 = W
42 = 42/HB

maven yes super slow blogger

7/24/2006 10:59:00 AM  
Blogger Melissa_Lossa said...

tapdawg - I love in your photos that Daniel Dae Kim is pretty much doing everything but grabbing your camera and taking a picture of his own wristband. :)

I would have thought that TPTB would have clued everyone in a little more on those wristbands - just think of the heroes welcome that you would have gotten if you had come back with all four glyphs! Not that we don't appreciate everything that you did this weekend!

7/24/2006 10:59:00 AM  
Blogger maven said...

Wow, tapdawg and caboose! You guys were so close to eachother...too bad you didn't know it!

7/24/2006 11:03:00 AM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

those newest images are from wireimage and are not mine... thas the biggest quality they have online.

7/24/2006 11:22:00 AM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

7/24/2006 11:22:00 AM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

i think it is more likely to be Valezetti than Hanso

7/24/2006 11:23:00 AM  
Blogger bigdog said...

matt the pale - was gone all weekend, trying to play catch up. Just visited your site and just wanted to say thanks and well done.

7/24/2006 11:25:00 AM  
Blogger Ange said...

Hey all...I know TapDawgs blog and Matt The Pale's site are great resources, but there are also two threads in the message board that are keeping track of the glyphs (with pictures) and the codes. Easy access, here is the link:
http://www.drkdesign.com/cluesmb/viewforum.php?f=26

7/24/2006 11:27:00 AM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

what costa?

7/24/2006 11:32:00 AM  
Blogger sean said...

arent we due for another podcast. he said 2 weeks.

7/24/2006 11:34:00 AM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

i see a picture but what are you talking about?

7/24/2006 11:39:00 AM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

here's my problem with that being alvar. The video found in the swan hatch has alvar in it. The video is also from 1980.... He could not change his appearance that much in 5 years. So either

1. that is not alvar.

2. the dates on one of those videos is wrong.... and its on purpose.

7/24/2006 11:41:00 AM  
Blogger sean said...

this is probably the orientation video that mtw and thompson were talking about in the audio file on the beach. so it would be alvar hanso.

7/24/2006 11:42:00 AM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

alvar hanso should be around 115-120... if he's still alive. Hence we assume the life extension program has been used on him.

alrighty i gotta go to work see you gusy in the afternoon.

7/24/2006 11:43:00 AM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

alvar hanso should be around 115-120... if he's still alive. Hence we assume the life extension program has been used on him.

alrighty i gotta go to work see you gusy in the afternoon.

7/24/2006 11:43:00 AM  
Blogger Young Wallace said...

Is anyone working on a possible sequence yet, or just trying to collect fragments at this point?

(I'm in Colorado Springs right now, so i'm only able to peek in and out. I haven't read any of the comments so not sure if this was discussed. If so, i'll just ban myself. wait, what?)

7/24/2006 11:45:00 AM  
Blogger Julian Delphiki said...

Errg, I can't see if there's another blog post after this one because the site won't load and the RSS always upates late.

Anyways, I really don't like being a "cheater", but on that xml page it says:
< fragments >
< fragment released="1153589062" published="1153592833"/ >
< fragment released="1153589094" published="1153592918"/ >
< fragment released="1153589124" published="1153611195"/ >
< fragment released="1153589184" published="1153717717"/ >
< fragment released="1153589217"/ >
< fragment released="1153589247"/ >
< fragment released="1153589292"/ >
< fragment released="1153734123" published="1153734286"/ >
< fragment released="1153734210"/ >
< fragment released="1153761962"/ >
< /fragments >

Don't you see that only 5 are published? That means the other five aren't really out there to get, there's only five that have been seen and used. I'm really wondering what this leader board is...maybe people who put them in the right slots?

Sorry if someone already mentioned this.

7/24/2006 01:20:00 PM  
Blogger Pedalin Dad said...

srsizzy: I take the 'published' to mean they have been found and entered by someone on the hansoexposed site... but I could be wrong

7/24/2006 01:23:00 PM  
Blogger Olerica said...

Theory about Alvar being 115 – 120 years old:

Did TPTB/C. Cruse or D. Lindelof mention that 60 days “island” time might be 2 years in “real” time? My theory then, is that Alvar IS on the island. The difficulties that they have in leaving the island may account for his not being seen since 2002 (right?) or longer.

My theory on the numbers/glyph names:

That whomever postulated that the numbers an letters all come together to form “THE NUMBERS” is correct. That there will be series of numbers, all in the right direction with the first number being first, all in the right direction of the first letter (number) being first, etc, going on till we have the ‘right’ number of series.

Hey,
It’s a theory. Or two, really...

7/24/2006 01:25:00 PM  
Blogger Olerica said...

Can I update my theory? Alvar has been on and off of the island. I think that's how he's extending his life.

Sidebar: Have you guys seen the 4400 TV show? All of those people were abducted and returned the same age they were when they left, yet time on earth went on. Wonder if it has any connection....

7/24/2006 01:29:00 PM  
Blogger Olerica said...

Where IS everyone?

7/24/2006 01:37:00 PM  
Blogger Twinkle said...

here_comes:
I had the same thought. Hansoexposed's interface isn't designed as well as it could be. The Lostpedia article about it mentiones some of the problems that have been found. I hope they update it, praticularly about losing clips into the ether if you don't drop them in the right place and the funky thing it does if you accidentally drop one on top of another.

7/24/2006 01:37:00 PM  
Blogger Twinkle said...

Boy my spelling was bad ont that last one. Sorry. Any word on blogger adding a spell check to the interface?

7/24/2006 01:38:00 PM  
Blogger Melissa_Lossa said...

olerica -

That's a really interesting idea! Not so much that Alvar has a way to extend his actual lifespan, he has just found a way to "skip" enough time that he doesn't appear to age. Hmmmm.....

7/24/2006 01:43:00 PM  
Blogger Leif Hassell said...

I would be willing to keep up with one of the sites... anyone planning on taking on the task of organizing the effort? Perhaps Matt the Pale, as he has already taken the initiative of organizing the list.

In the meantime, I feel certain that the other four codes are out there... we just haven't found them. Just because we got the jump on them for a few of the clues doesn't mean they can't learn from their mistakes... I'd be dissapointed if they didn't.

7/24/2006 01:43:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Afternoon everyone! I just got my systems workign again here at work so I can catch up and play along!

I have tons of email to look over as well. Be back in a few!

7/24/2006 01:45:00 PM  
Blogger Ange said...

The Seeker said...
How do you all feel about assigning teams to keep up on individual sites? Team one could watch thf.org, team two djdan.am and so on?

You can use the ARG monitor to watch for any site updated...the only sites that it does not monitor automatically are Rachel's blog, and ROT...but it covers all the rest.
Link to ARG Monitor

7/24/2006 01:47:00 PM  
Blogger Lost in Portugal said...

I think three of the remaining codes were on the wristbands.

7/24/2006 01:52:00 PM  
Blogger Julian Delphiki said...

ange: The ARG moniter seems to be updating RoT and Rachel's blog, they are right up there with the rest.

- Mr. Tom

7/24/2006 01:54:00 PM  
Blogger Pedalin Dad said...

Ange: Hi there! quick question... how reliable do you think that ARG monitor is? I noticed the problem with noticing Rachel's blog, and took it to mean it is faulty... sounds like you are saying it doesn't work for only those two sites?

Just checking...

7/24/2006 01:56:00 PM  
Blogger Ange said...

srsizzy/pedalin-if you read the note from the creator of the monitor (at the top of the Lowkeysoft page)...he has to update ROT and Rachel's blog manually, so they do not always update on the monitor when they do in actual time. For example Rachel's blog updated 7/24, but it has yet to be added to the recently changed list. All others update in real time automatically. It is VERY accurate for all sites other than ROT and Rachel's Blog.:)

7/24/2006 01:58:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Just got back and like the discussion on whether or not Mr. Beardy is Alvar or Valenzetti.

Don't believe is Enzo -- definitely no Italian hint in his speech.

I came out yesterday saying it was Alvar Hanso (much younger). That grainy photo dated 2003 on THF and showing up in a 1980 Orientation film might just be red herring. Maybe when the 1980 Orientation films were made they just used a generic photo of a "distinguished elder head of a Foundation" and continued the lie on THF website since Alve Hanso was out and Mittelwerk was in, and they needed some photo of him. Taking a shot from the 1975 DVD wouldn't help them because it was showing a young, vibrant man. The Alvar in the 1975 DVD looks about 50ish to me which would make about in his 80's now. Very believeable.

7/24/2006 01:58:00 PM  
Blogger Pedalin Dad said...

howard: sorry, that's been there for a while (july 18th?)... the first links to THF website, the 2nd and 3rd link to a commercial about the life extention and one about the math forecasting initiative

7/24/2006 02:01:00 PM  
Blogger Julian Delphiki said...

ange: ack, sorry, spoke too soon, I'm dumb. Just noticed it said he updates them manually.

costa: it looks like that could be somthing, a pattern of "+4", but if they go in that order than the video doesn't make sense. And it doesn't work for "RRGYXS" which has a lot of high numbers.

7/24/2006 02:02:00 PM  
Blogger Pedalin Dad said...

ange: thanks! Just saw the note you referred to... I guess I should read the fine print! Didn't realize that changed.

thanks again!

7/24/2006 02:05:00 PM  
Blogger Twinkle said...

If so then how would they signify #1? Somebody already tried all the single characters. I'm kind of hoping that we just have to figure out the order by content but maybe that's because I like doing that kind of stuff.

7/24/2006 02:09:00 PM  
Blogger dixxee said...

if you put the video's in order per the number i.e. 4ho, 748L, ohge, 7hkbh, rroyxs... this almost seems to fit the way they should play...

7/24/2006 02:16:00 PM  
Blogger dixxee said...

now to find more clips and see if the theory holds out..

7/24/2006 02:18:00 PM  
Blogger Mark Nunemaker said...

I don't know if figuring out the clues without finding them will help all that much if they have not "released" that clue yet. If you enter the wrong code it says "as of MM/DD/TT this code does not work" or whatever... which means even if we have the correct codes we will not know it until they release that code, right?

7/24/2006 02:23:00 PM  
Blogger Mark Nunemaker said...

yeah I agree with you costa - I was just responding to what someone else up there had said about using them to figure out the missing codes.

7/24/2006 02:25:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

the orientation fragments have to be related to the alvar video mittelwerk and thompson were talking about on the beach. which would lead me to believe beardy is alvar.

7/24/2006 02:28:00 PM  
Blogger Cam794 said...

On Hanso exposed it says 10 fragments released and u only put up 5 were is the othere five?? Does that mean theres ten realeased and we have to find the other faive codes???

7/24/2006 02:33:00 PM  
Blogger Cam794 said...

If im missing any codes please post them

7/24/2006 02:34:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

nightmaremommie: Cool. What's the link to your blog. I clicked your name and didn't see it.

7/24/2006 02:35:00 PM  
Blogger Mark Nunemaker said...

there are glyphs in Sri Lanka - according to Google - haven't done much research yet, but one of the Glyph languages is called Tamil. There is more info here too:

http://www.isoc.org/inet97/proceedings/E1/E1_3.HTM#s4

7/24/2006 02:40:00 PM  
Blogger Ange said...

Cam794 said...
If im missing any codes please post them

Cam-check the main TLEC mainpage...all the codes are up to date there.

7/24/2006 02:41:00 PM  
Blogger Mark Nunemaker said...

more info here too - does not look like our glyphs...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_script

7/24/2006 02:43:00 PM  
Blogger Mike V. said...

Hey everybody! Back from a weekend at a cottage and all caught up! Ya miss me?

7/24/2006 02:43:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Great pics and reporting, nightmaremommie! Looks like you had a great "experience". That pic of Rachel was great. No wonder she's using it!

7/24/2006 02:46:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

lordnune: Good work on trying to translate the actual glyphs. They have to have some importance to this. Maybe help with the sequencing or tell us another clue...who knows. Keep trying.

lostinfrogurt: Of course we all missed you!

7/24/2006 02:48:00 PM  
Blogger Mike V. said...

Maven, yay! I think the last clip we find is going to be the longest, and maybe, make all the others make sense, ie. the beard guy. It'll probably also be the hardest to find.

7/24/2006 02:50:00 PM  
Blogger Ange said...

HI FROGURT-couldn't live without your dancing whatever-it-is!

completely lost-he.com is doing that for everyone...it is messed up today, for lack of a better word. ROT does that sometimes too....might mean an update soon, but from time to time over the last couple of weeks it has been going right to the thread page.

Have any myspacers gotten a new mail from Manny? I heard tell of one, but haven't see it anywhere.

7/24/2006 02:51:00 PM  
Blogger RyaNDrumZ said...

Just saying hello. Still waiting for next glyph. Readind all comments, keep it up...

7/24/2006 02:52:00 PM  
Blogger Mike V. said...

Ange, it's a yeti! My he.com is working fine.

7/24/2006 02:54:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

i dont know if anyone thought of this, but has anyone tried anagraming the glyph codes?
remember timeless together?

7/24/2006 02:55:00 PM  
Blogger Mark Nunemaker said...

yeah Maven, it should be something to consider anyway. I have found no glyphs online anywhere yet that resemble these, so they could just be made up, but we should be on the lookout for them.

7/24/2006 02:57:00 PM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

the jamie silberhartz on myspace is not the real one. Both ADMIN and Speaker have confirmed this.

7/24/2006 02:58:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

ryandrumz: Did you post any pics or video?

7/24/2006 02:59:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

someone over at ite had a similar idea about the anagrams. maybe we have to convert the #s to letters, and get a password for something else. i dont know what for yet.

7/24/2006 02:59:00 PM  
Blogger Mike V. said...

Has anyone tried checking the shutdown hanso site for glyph flashes? Or maybe they've updated the psychology test to include a flash of glyph. Just trying to be helpful...

wv: Kivoi, a kiwi withan accent.

7/24/2006 03:00:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

it would make sence for rb to put glyphs on the persephone page at thf.

7/24/2006 03:04:00 PM  
Blogger Mike V. said...

Can't beat the original...

7/24/2006 03:06:00 PM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

has anyone check gidgetgirls blog or that other persons blog... mayeb they have info on there?

7/24/2006 03:11:00 PM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

I've tried finding gidgetgirls blog on rachels blog... to no avail.

7/24/2006 03:12:00 PM  
Blogger RyaNDrumZ said...

I have the whole thing on DVD now. Just need to convert the DVD(VOB) to a MPEG or AVI.
Still working on it. I'm learning all this as I go. Plus I ran out of time yesterday to do this. It's hard to work this game into real life. Oh well...

I did not take any pictures. I was holding the video camera for 1hour and 30 minutes. My arms were killing me at the end...LOL

7/24/2006 03:14:00 PM  
Blogger Twinkle said...

Love the Damon is Speaker comment on your blog, Nightmare. Has someone taken a picture of Damon "Speaker-ed" it - all dark and white glasses, and sent it to him saying they saw him at Comic Con?

7/24/2006 03:16:00 PM  
Blogger WickedM said...

Maybe I'm reaching, but I'm bored checking and re-check sites for hints or updates....

Okay I was looking at the pix of the wristbands of Damon and Jorge and I noticed that Damon's band was the "4ho". D is the 4th letter of the alphabet. When the "ohge" was Jorge's and when you speak it, it could sould like Oh-he or Ho-hey.

I know it's bad....

7/24/2006 03:18:00 PM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

what if rblake is a code...

rblake numericaly is 18 2 12 1 11 5

a combination of letters and numebrs could give us a fragment

7/24/2006 03:22:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Can't wait to see your stuff, ryandrumz.

Hot enough for you? Woodland Hills was 119 on Saturday!!

7/24/2006 03:22:00 PM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

we all know how she loves making her name important and all...

7/24/2006 03:24:00 PM  
Blogger Cam794 said...

Rachel did say there all over the web so she might give us a few but we will just have to kepp searching on related sites for any clues. Also how long is this goin to take i mean we have 5 and thees 70 and were only gettin like two a day soooooo.....

7/24/2006 03:26:00 PM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

i like the idea of the clues giving away the position of the fragment in the clip show. these don't neccesarily need to be right by each other... maybe there will be no 1-20 but then 23 is where it starts and then the enxt numebr we'll find won't neccesarily be 24 it could be like 27 etc... but there won't be any clips between 23 and 27 but they still go together because they are the number that comes next... understand what i mean?

7/24/2006 03:27:00 PM  
Blogger Your Mother said...

Went to the shut down hanso site and persephone.thf.org and found nothing on either site...

7/24/2006 03:27:00 PM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

I'm still holding to the fact that we have not started act 3. Act 3 will start once we complete this video.

7/24/2006 03:28:00 PM  
Blogger Your Mother said...

I dunno tapdawg ... there was a definate shift between acts 1 and 2 and this does seem to be a new shift .... but anything is possible. TPTB like to keep us guessing don't they?

7/24/2006 03:30:00 PM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

i think that ACT 3 will include the information we receive from this video. And then we'll have to spread the information, also i still think rachel needs to be captured and we need to save her for the final act. If we don't have any more personal contact within the ARG then it's just not cool. I don't even want to call Comic-Con a personal contact for the ARG because we couldn't talk to rachel or ask her questions...

7/24/2006 03:32:00 PM  
Blogger Your Mother said...

Well, any personal contact is going to be extremely limited ... just based on the fact that they could only be in so many places at once ... So if there is going to be more personal appearances, it'll be interesting to see how they do them...

7/24/2006 03:36:00 PM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

well it be nice if we had to go to places to get the clues... similar to how thosein australia went somewhere to get a copy of the gary troup book from lost ninja.

7/24/2006 03:37:00 PM  
Blogger Mike V. said...

your mother, glad you checked.

7/24/2006 03:40:00 PM  
Blogger Your Mother said...

yeah, you're right tapdawg. I'm not sure I like this method of being spoon fed the glyphs. Some sort of activity would be a nice change.

7/24/2006 03:41:00 PM  
Blogger Your Mother said...

lostinfrogurt - glad to see the return of the dancing panda. :)

7/24/2006 03:42:00 PM  
Blogger Mike V. said...

your mother, yup, it's back. Maybe sublymonal will have something.

7/24/2006 03:43:00 PM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

i would have enjoyed them actually telling me to take a picture of their wrist bracelets... bah ... time to check abc for those photos again.

7/24/2006 03:44:00 PM  
Blogger Your Mother said...

Well, at least we're having to work for those wristband clues (to some degree) as opposed to those on rb's blog and he.com.

7/24/2006 03:46:00 PM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

well not really... speaker and rachel have given us all the fragments so far. We've just been doing "busy" work inbetween their posts.

Anywho lunch breaks over... gotta go back and work... see you guys later!

7/24/2006 03:48:00 PM  
Blogger Your Mother said...

hence the "to some degree" ... have a good day tapdawg.

7/24/2006 03:50:00 PM  
Blogger oodles said...

umh
isn't
7hkbh=7+8(h)+11(k)+2(b)+8(h)=36?

and rrgyxs = 111

7/24/2006 03:50:00 PM  
Blogger Lost in Portugal said...

I agree with tapdawg: we are still in ACT 2. I think this video will reveal something really big and then Rachel will be captured. Anyway, TPTB could give us a little more info regarding where we should look for the glyphs... If they are not on the official sites, where the heck are they?

7/24/2006 03:55:00 PM  
Blogger Twinkle said...

I love how all this is a work in progress. TPTB have never done this before. We've never done this before. We're learning what we like. They're learning what we *don't* like and what doesn't work for them. We've probably surprised them with the things we've noticed that they didn't intend for us to (like the Rachel function back at the beginning). They got us with the Sri Lanka mentioned in the hacked voice mail. What else have the planted that no one's put together yet? Do they now expect us to peacefully wait for glyphs? What happens if we don't?

7/24/2006 03:58:00 PM  
Blogger Your Mother said...

Seriously. 70 glyphs to find and we've had to be given all five of the ones anyone knows about so far. I'd like some more interaction. Never thought I'd long for the Act I days. :)

7/24/2006 03:59:00 PM  
Blogger Lost in Portugal said...

Yeah, this is getting a little boring... Just think about it: two glyphs a day, that's 35 days of "glyph waiting"!

7/24/2006 04:01:00 PM  
Blogger Twinkle said...

I figure, or at least I hope, TPTB figured out we'd be bored with waiting for glyphs. Their experience with us so far should have predicted that. So I wonder what they're going to do? Next up (or soon up) is the next DJ Dan podcast.

7/24/2006 04:06:00 PM  
Blogger RyaNDrumZ said...

Maven-119 for woodland was a record high. Very Hot Saturday. After Comic-Con, I just stayed in the house, tried to keep cool...

7/24/2006 04:09:00 PM  
Blogger Mike V. said...

Having to wait for glyphs. An inconvenient truth.

7/24/2006 04:12:00 PM  
Blogger Mike V. said...

The Powers that be patrick. The controllers of the game.

7/24/2006 04:13:00 PM  
Blogger The Penuels said...

Courtesy of Twinkle...Helpful hansoexposed.com Handbook!

7/24/2006 04:14:00 PM  
Blogger Lost in Portugal said...

patrick: Only five codes have been found. You can check them here: http://hansoexposed.com/xml/statistics

(Assuming "published" means "found by us")

7/24/2006 04:18:00 PM  
Blogger abbyabitha said...

Ive been away for a while...to catch up:
We are waiting for them to direct us to the fragments. We are not out on the web activley searching for them?

7/24/2006 04:21:00 PM  
Blogger Mike V. said...

correct abby, any and all leads have been exhausted. Jack: "All roads lead here!"

7/24/2006 04:22:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

i also think this is act 2. i think the video will kick off act 3.

it will be like the rachel blake season finale.

7/24/2006 04:22:00 PM  
Blogger Twinkle said...

Yeah, I'm starting to think this isn't Act 3 yet either but the lead up into it. It doesn't seem like *them* to slow the game down now.

7/24/2006 04:23:00 PM  
Blogger Ange said...

When Rachel mentioned her trusted few, and glyphs finding their way to them, I wasn't sure what that meant. Now I see that it means people like the Lost panel, and speaker....BUT what if they collected our e-mails on HE.com not just for us to save/keep track of sequences, but to e-mail a trusted few with clues or glyphs. Thus far, NOT ONE glyph has been found in a web site, randomly placed...they are all shown to us. I think TPTB have made it a point to show that they know who we are with the shout outs to specific players on Rachel's blog, and on ROT...what's not to say they won't personally engage us through e-mail, to foster sharing/community, and not have us all looking wildly all over the Internet. Main point...no looking just finding...once we're pointed in the right direction.

patrick-a few leader people posted here today...they just happened to log the clips first...nothing special!:)

7/24/2006 04:25:00 PM  
Blogger Twinkle said...

Wow, Admin! I love what you did to the doc. I made a couple minor changes to the version I posted on Lostpedia. I was wrong about what the #/# meant in the Recorded Sequences List. And as the site changes and becomes more user friendly, hopefully somebody can keep the documentation.

Thanks!

P.S. The game could be slow today too becaues TPTB are kindly letting others who didn't have internet access over the weekend catch up.

7/24/2006 04:25:00 PM  
Blogger Lost in Portugal said...

patrick: Maybe 1st place?

7/24/2006 04:25:00 PM  
Blogger Twinkle said...

sorry, keep *up* the documentation

7/24/2006 04:26:00 PM  
Blogger Scoutpost said...

This suspense is killing me!!!! I wish there was something to do to find the glyphs.

7/24/2006 04:27:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

this can also be an opportunity for tptb to take a break. they're just hiding stuff for us to find, so they dont have to worry about updating blogs, or making new videos, etc.

its like theyre going on vacation, and giving us an activity to keep us busy.

not that i mind, of course.

7/24/2006 04:29:00 PM  
Blogger Dennis said...

I'm just glad that all of the glyphs will be be on the internet. I was afraid the ACT three would consist of find glyphs by:

- Visiting your local Verizon store
- Test driving a Jeep Compass
- Buying a 2-liter bottle of sprite
- etc...

I just wish they would give us a little bit of guidance of where we should start looking...hopefully it won't be 70 handouts from the speaker.

7/24/2006 04:33:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

I agree, we could be searching for glphys for years if they dont point us in some direction....

7/24/2006 04:34:00 PM  
Blogger Mike V. said...

twinkle, like me. I was at a cottage.

7/24/2006 04:34:00 PM  
Blogger Mike V. said...

I propose that we split the duties, if the glyphs are all at once, thrown into the web. Like So and so gets 1-5, Next guy get 6-11, so on. It would be much easier than looking in a frenzy. But this all of course, depends on the notion that Blake will through the hints out on random TLE-related websites by the tens.

7/24/2006 04:37:00 PM  
Blogger Mike V. said...

Or better yet, we appoint groups of people to moniter a website.

7/24/2006 04:38:00 PM  
Blogger The Penuels said...

Just read a few comments...and I've got an opinion...

Slow? They've never (to my knowledge) posted new clues over the weekend. Saturday was HUGE! And now we have a new website and 4 new video clips and it's only Monday! This IS Act III and it is going to be awesome. We each have our own space on hansoexposed.com and we can work together and share information like never before. I anticipate that we are going to find glyphs all over the world and the videos are going to tell us more than we ever imagined. Mr Beardy is new character...how cool is that?!

This is just my opinion but I wanted to be a voice saying that I think this ARG is just as AWESOME as ever. I'm just bummed I have to go out of town for 5 days!!! (Noblelawyer, I'll be back in N.O.)

7/24/2006 04:39:00 PM  
Blogger Mike V. said...

Admin, read my post above, I think you could organize that.

7/24/2006 04:40:00 PM  
Blogger oxillini said...

man, that dancing panda weirds me out.

7/24/2006 04:43:00 PM  
Blogger Ange said...

frogurt-I posted earlier...don't know when but you can CTRL+F it...if we use the ARG monitor no one has to monitor sites except Rachel's blog and ROT, as it automatically tracks updates on ALL other in-game sites:)

7/24/2006 04:44:00 PM  
Blogger oxillini said...

i agree w/ admin, i think this is the perfect opportunity to make this game more real-world. rache could tell us she put a glyph at yankee stadium for example and we'll need someone in new york to find it. i hope that's the direction this turns!

7/24/2006 04:45:00 PM  
Blogger The Penuels said...

lostinfrogurt,
Why are we assuming that all glyphs will be on the web? What websites? Sublymonal, LYCGY, RoT??? I'm not sure they are going to be released that way? Can you catch me up...I haven't been able to lurk today.
David

7/24/2006 04:46:00 PM  
Blogger The Penuels said...

oxillini,
I am convinced that is how it will go down. I've talke to people who have played other ARGs and that is how they ended. Examples...go to a certain payphone at a certain time and answer when it rings and use a certain password. Go to a certain restaurant and ask to see the manager and say a certain phrase and they will give you a clue. Etc. Old fashioned Scavenger Hunt style...but GLOBAL!

7/24/2006 04:49:00 PM  
Blogger Mike V. said...

No, I'm saying IF they are released like that or in large groups we could organize our search forces to monitor sites like RDB, BBS, ROT etc. What is LYCGY?

Ange - RSS will tell us when, but does it tell us where? I don't really 'get' RSS so. Anyways, it would be interesting and it could get people to get to know each other more.

7/24/2006 04:50:00 PM  
Blogger Ange said...

Am I invisible today?
We can't assume that Admin...PLUS only two of the glyphs we have now were on web sites. All others were technically on bracelets worn by the Lost panel-in the REAL WORLD. I agree admin, they could be anywhere...Rachel's e-mail mentions that the clips are on the web NOT necessarily the glyphs. I am still hoping for some e-mails to players.

7/24/2006 04:50:00 PM  
Blogger Ange said...

Yep Frogurt, The ARG monitor tells us where...and supplies a clickable link too.

7/24/2006 04:51:00 PM  
Blogger Mike V. said...

admin, if it goes down that way, I'm your boy in Toronto!

7/24/2006 04:53:00 PM  
Blogger Mike V. said...

TPTB, might be able to take the time to check on frappr or people's profiles to know where to put clues if they decide to the real-world angle.

7/24/2006 04:54:00 PM  
Blogger The Penuels said...

I don't think we have to just go out into the world or the world-wide-web haphazardly looking everywhere. TPTB will still guide us in the same ways they have all along. We can monitor websites 24/7 but history tells us that we have really only caught clues before we were given a hint about 15% of the time (and when we did, they didn't really make sense - like the first Rachel vid on Monster).

7/24/2006 04:54:00 PM  
Blogger Ange said...

kvon-hanso adoptions is not in game.

patrick it is here:
Link to ARG Monitor
and you're not being stupid!!!;)

7/24/2006 04:56:00 PM  
Blogger oxillini said...

admin, i thought i remembered this game being described the way you're talking about when it all started. people around the world would find things and post em for everyone to share. i REALLY hope it goes that way. i also think the fact that only 2 were on the web, and those were spoonfed should give us some idea of what direction this is heading.

7/24/2006 04:56:00 PM  
Blogger BarbaraJay said...

Could someone who is signed in on the Fuselage write to DDK and ask him what was on his wristband? Not that he'd answer but it couldn't hurt.

7/24/2006 04:57:00 PM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

gee David, you were quick to ditch the 48 day theory ;-) If this is act 3 then finding the fragment codes and putting the video cannot be all of it... the information might be earth shattering but it's going to be hinted at with the fragments well before hand... like spoilers ;-) So, if this is part of Act 3, I hope the finale is action packed.

I have to agree that real orld clues will require us to lean on each other a lot more, as was hinted by Rachel. I know there would be continuity issues with something being printed in Bad twin, but maybe it could be added to (stamped, a sticker or something) one shipment or something, with a link to the website... maybe glyphs will pop up on adds during Lost... anything else would really require direction, which could happen, it's just not looking that way yet.

7/24/2006 04:57:00 PM  
Blogger oxillini said...

patrick: yup, the cubbies can't even call this a rebuilding year. they are just plain crap. what does that make the pirates and the royals?

i've got a feeling tptb will be putting these in major population centers.

7/24/2006 04:59:00 PM  
Blogger The Penuels said...

ange,
you're not invisible! :)
I see you.

You're right. Video Fragments = Hidden all over the WEB (and by that I think the implication may be that the 5 we already have are hosted all over at random places that don't really matter but they're collected by us at HE.com). Glyphs/Fragment Codes = Could be anywhere.

lostinfrogurt,
I'm not sure they're monitoring frappr (maybe they are since Speaker posted one a few weeks ago). They will probably just do things in major cities.

7/24/2006 04:59:00 PM  
Blogger Ange said...

kvonhard-G4 has coverage of the Lost panel (not sur e how much though) tonight at 7:00pm est...if you get that channel...I personally am hoping for something then!

Thanks Dave:)

7/24/2006 05:04:00 PM  
Blogger Rogers Sampaio said...

Hello all, if the TPTB wants that we look for the glyphs I don't know and I am truly disapointed with this.

But I was researching a little bit and found this

I think this must be a thing to look into.

7/24/2006 05:05:00 PM  
Blogger Mike V. said...

admin, frappr would be a good place to find where there are only a couple of people in one city so that we would have to rely on those people.

7/24/2006 05:06:00 PM  
Blogger engineer27 said...

Reposting from the clue #78 thread this morning, in case people were sleeping:

Sorry to distract everyone from the talk of glyphs and codes, but I want to return for a moment to actually discussing what the clues we have might mean.

If you think back to the "where is alvar" hack that we saw when we clicked "October 28, 2003" under alvar's picture(Clue #27 at TLEC), you'll recall that if you were patient enough to let the hack play out, you got some morse code with a flashing dot.

I now think that the morse code at the end was a message to Persephone/Rachel from GidgetGirl/Darla, perhaps delivered by IronMan/Fixer/ITGuy. The hack then becomes a sort of conversation, thus:

Rachel: Where is Alvar Hanso?
Darla: Safe -- G.

"G" for Gidget, of course.

So Darla either knows where he is, or at the very least knows for sure that he is somewhere safe, and more importantly, that there is some danger that he needs to be safe from. TWM, perhaps?

OK, I now return you to your regularly scheduled glyph comments.

e27

7/24/2006 05:07:00 PM  
Blogger Mike V. said...

Ange, never before have I wanted G4 so bad. I just wanted it for Happy Tree Friends and Friends but now, the Lost Panel?! What else lies in this treasure trove of excellency?!

7/24/2006 05:08:00 PM  
Blogger The Penuels said...

lavenda,
Yeah, I know...48 day theory is out the window for me! Oh well, you win some, you lose some. I was just happy that Rachel showed up at Comic Con. I think Act 3 will be action packed. The action on Saturday at Comic Con was exhillerating even though I wasn't there. Talking to Belly and Tapdawg on the phone, getting emails, watching Speaker's blog...that was fast paced and really fun. What if every 5th glyph or so was a wild-goose chase like that?! The possibilities are endless.

Not the mention that the video(s) on HE.com is(are) going to mess with our heads...we probably won't understand what it's all about until we get the last few fragments. I bet the fragments get longer and longer as we go. We'll be working the whole time to put the pieces together. Right now, I don't think anyone has a clue where they go in the order.

7/24/2006 05:08:00 PM  
Blogger Mike V. said...

engineer, that's really interesting! Way to look back!

7/24/2006 05:11:00 PM  
Blogger The Penuels said...

engineer27, thanks for reposting that. Interesting theory and very possible. I decided that they were trying to say "save me" which has been a comment thread throughout this game. And didn't Rachel act like she didn't know GidgetGirl when stophanso.rachelblake.com first went live?

7/24/2006 05:12:00 PM  
Blogger The Penuels said...

patrick, why don't you think this is Act 3?

7/24/2006 05:12:00 PM  
Blogger Mike V. said...

admin, I said before, you can ctrl+F it, that I think the very last fragment will be the longest and explain everything like the beard guy and why TWM is there.

7/24/2006 05:12:00 PM  
Blogger The Penuels said...

lostinfrogurt,
forgive me. I haven't read the entire thread. busy, busy day. I agree with you.

7/24/2006 05:14:00 PM  
Blogger engineer27 said...

administrator: Right. Rachel didn't "get" the message for the same reason we didn't -- no idea who "G" is. But Darla/Gidget knew who Persephone/Rachel was the whole time.

She waited to get more involved to avoid "exposure" -- for good reason, as it turned out.

7/24/2006 05:14:00 PM  
Blogger Mike V. said...

Just want to get this out in the open - I started posting in the message board. Then I moved on to frappr and now I'm finally I'm in the comments. I tuly enjoy how I am an active part of the proceedings and how everyone here has been so nice.

7/24/2006 05:17:00 PM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

but with70 fragments that could very well carry us throughout the rest of the game. I think this is act 3.

7/24/2006 05:20:00 PM  
Blogger Mike V. said...

Why does it say that 10 fragments have been released? Maybe the leader board people have each been given one extra and since they all have six they are all (1) first.

7/24/2006 05:23:00 PM  
Blogger Rogers Sampaio said...

Did anyone check what I've post?

7/24/2006 05:26:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Just catching up. Yeah, I agree the fragments on the web, but the glyphs can be anywhere. Hopefully, it will be physical hunting around the world where we have to rely on each. I think we did a pretty good job of it at ComicCon. That was just a test for us. LOL

IMHO: Think Mr. Beardy is Alvar Hanso himself. TWM said he did have a DVD of Alvar talking about the Valenzetti Equation. I think this is that DVD.

7/24/2006 05:29:00 PM  
Blogger Mike V. said...

I did santos, it's interesting but I don't thinik it's ingame

7/24/2006 05:30:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

I also think this is ACT 3. Each Act is involving one particular site: Act I: THF; ACT II: Rachel's Blog and ACT III: Hansoexposed.

7/24/2006 05:31:00 PM  
Blogger Rogers Sampaio said...

kvonhard: I don't think that the clips is coming from anywhere from the web, it is just a game language, like the THF hacked site. We know that is impossible to hack on demand a flash website. So is just ilustrative.

LostinFrogurt: Not the site or the guy but the theory about I ching and feng shui. The glyphs has to be meaninful in real world, I don't think they invented all glyphs.

7/24/2006 05:38:00 PM  
Blogger Mike V. said...

I gotta go.

7/24/2006 05:43:00 PM  
Blogger Christine said...

HI EVERYONE! Do we still only have 5 codes?

7/24/2006 05:48:00 PM  
Blogger Ithilethiel said...

how do you know how many codes are actually released? it said that there were 10 at Matt the Pale's HansoExposed Video Fragment Code List...

7/24/2006 05:50:00 PM  
Blogger SunBruise said...

People, What is G4? is it a show or a channel or what?

7/24/2006 06:08:00 PM  
Blogger SunBruise said...

Damn, I dont have G4.

7/24/2006 06:20:00 PM  
Blogger Mike V. said...

I'm back. Went biking.

7/24/2006 06:29:00 PM  
Blogger SunBruise said...

Do any of you think that they planned ahead of time and put a glyph in that orientaion video??

http://www.thehansofoundation.org/orientation_testing_issue_1980/

7/24/2006 06:37:00 PM  
Blogger jonah said...

Hey...Geogodess...interesting name...?

7/24/2006 06:41:00 PM  
Blogger Ange said...

G4 had a whole bunch of NOTHING...no one missed anything!

7/24/2006 06:44:00 PM  
Blogger thisguypossessed said...

that G4 Lost coverage was pretty lame

7/24/2006 06:44:00 PM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

LOL sunbruise, I did just go back and look at that again, but I'm pretty sure all the unique frames were captured sme time ago and I don't remember anything looking remotely like a glyph, they were all photography images (except for the "logo" at the start and the end credits of course). There was the change to the text that flashes up on thf.org, but haven't checked yet whether it is working now

7/24/2006 06:46:00 PM  
Blogger jonah said...

you can type alot in Sublymonal....Helgus Antonius....glyph...werner...

7/24/2006 06:51:00 PM  
Blogger SunBruise said...

Lol, type lost. There aware of it.

7/24/2006 06:52:00 PM  
Blogger Ashley F said...

hansoexposed.com now says 10 fragments are out there. where or where could they be? i mean, they should be easy to find, seeing as how rachel has limited their locations fo any and every website known to man, lol

7/24/2006 07:01:00 PM  

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