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Clue #80 - Fragment Codes "fvh7n", "88ch", "1EY8AZCZNA2", & "VDADOS7YREO"

Before days end on Monday, we saw 4 more fragment codes revealed. These codes are to be used on hansoexposed.com (See Twinkle's HansoExposed.com Handbook for assistance).

First, insidetheexperience.com was updated by Speaker with a "Catch-Up for Noobs" post. In his post there were several mock pictures of Speaker but the 3rd from the bottom was a negative image of him (white face, black glasses). Clicking that image gave us our next glyph/fragment code, "fvh7n". The video was Mr. Beardy saying "Thank you and namaste."

Next, Lost Ninja posted with the title "Got Glyphs" revealing 3 more glyphs/fragment codes. Code "88ch" gives us a video of Mr. Beardy saying, "Commissioned under the highest secrecy through the U.N. Security Council..." Code "1EY8AZCZNA2" gives us a video of Mr. Beardy saying, "The DeGroots, the few high-ranking members of my organization." Finally, code "VDADOS7YRE0" gives us a video of Mittlwerk saying, "I just want to tell all of you that I trust you to do what is best."

Thanks to John, Uncaged, Jessi, Matt the Pale, Sean, baseballfrk89, Joel, and Stephen for being the first to email us about these codes.

*As always, check out Matt the Pale's summary of all the found fragment codes at...Matt the Pale's HansoExposed Video Fragment Code List

203 Comments:

Blogger ImAroundTheFur said...

oh ho! FIRST!

7/24/2006 11:12:00 PM  
Blogger Love Pirate 77 said...

second?

7/24/2006 11:13:00 PM  
Blogger Administrator said...

Hey guys, sorry this post was kinda late. We must have all been out at one time tonight. Have fun!

I'm off to New Orleans again. :)

7/24/2006 11:14:00 PM  
Blogger Love Pirate 77 said...

no problem, everyone gets a little behind sometimes

7/24/2006 11:16:00 PM  
Blogger Rantzman said...

top 5 !

7/24/2006 11:16:00 PM  
Blogger ImAroundTheFur said...

no problemo. im just wondering where #10 could possibly be?

7/24/2006 11:17:00 PM  
Blogger ImAroundTheFur said...

oh yeah, did anyone figure out what was on the back of tapdawgs puzzle?

7/24/2006 11:18:00 PM  
Blogger thisguypossessed said...

top 10!

7/24/2006 11:19:00 PM  
Blogger Love Pirate 77 said...

I couldn't decipher anything from the pictures, but it's hard to take pics of something that glows in the dark... but my puzzles get here tomorrow, so I'm excited about that

7/24/2006 11:19:00 PM  
Blogger ImAroundTheFur said...

gotcha.

i bet its just a ploy to get people to buy it...

7/24/2006 11:20:00 PM  
Blogger thisguypossessed said...

from what it looked like, the back of tapdawg's puzzle was the glow in the dark map seen in "?", in the swan hatch, but i could be wrong

the only thing i could make out was the "I am here" in the middle but tapdawg mentioned something about fatalities(!?) not sure about that part

7/24/2006 11:21:00 PM  
Blogger Love Pirate 77 said...

probably, but I love puzzles, so it'll be fun either way
(on another note, I should have stopped lurking and started posting a long time ago, instead of just tonight)

7/24/2006 11:21:00 PM  
Blogger Chelsea said...

TapDawg: I seperated the 2 Mr. Beardies because I thought the first one felt like a warning about the information (re: Valenzetti) the viewer's about to see and the second felt like a "good luck" end-of-message kind of thing.
Just me though. With only 9 splices, we're all just grasping in the dark.
Alone together, again.

7/24/2006 11:22:00 PM  
Blogger thisguypossessed said...

does anyone know where you can get those lost puzzles outside of comic con? or do we have to wait for them to come out?

7/24/2006 11:22:00 PM  
Blogger ImAroundTheFur said...

its suicide to read all of the comments... most of them are just BS anyway, so i rarely post.... but i always keep tabs on the game a few times a day

7/24/2006 11:23:00 PM  
Blogger Love Pirate 77 said...

http://timespacetoys.stores.yahoo.net/ is where I got my 2... you can even preorder the ones that haven't come out yet.

7/24/2006 11:24:00 PM  
Blogger thisguypossessed said...

thanks love pirate- arrr!

7/24/2006 11:25:00 PM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

alrighty about the puzzle:

you can get it at amazon, barnes and nobles, and some toy website... i cant rememebr what its called.

as for the back. it has a code on it i can't decpiher.

it's several letter C's and then a bunch of numbers.... I posted the numbers before but noone took much care about it.

7/24/2006 11:25:00 PM  
Blogger Love Pirate 77 said...

tapdog: by the way, excellent coverage of the comic con. I live kinda near San Diego and I wish I could have gone.

7/24/2006 11:28:00 PM  
Blogger Heather's Brain said...

TOP 20!!!!

man I hate it when people post this top # stuff!!!

LOL

7/24/2006 11:28:00 PM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

no problem love pirate. You should attend next year. They have alot of cool stuff and barely any comic books.... hahha and its comic-con hahahha

7/24/2006 11:29:00 PM  
Blogger thisguypossessed said...

yeah, thank you so much tapdawg, you did an awesome job, and after watching attack of the show's coverage of Lost at comic con, you look even better, they should have hired you to be a reporter

7/24/2006 11:31:00 PM  
Blogger Heather's Brain said...

Tapdawg...I took note, wrote them down even...my question was this...since it is a map just like the one on the blast door, what if those numbers are coodinates on a map...Like C12/26 (whatever) would put you in a square on a map?

Okay, am I reaching?

7/24/2006 11:32:00 PM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

hahaha... well i am going to college right now and I'm studying communications.

7/24/2006 11:32:00 PM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

i think you are reaching... maybe i should change the numebrs into letters?

7/24/2006 11:33:00 PM  
Blogger Heather's Brain said...

I tried that too...let me know what you get.

7/24/2006 11:34:00 PM  
Blogger Chaserace said...

top 30 w00t.

7/24/2006 11:34:00 PM  
Blogger Heather's Brain said...

what do you do when it is a 28? I was sure there are only 26 letters. HA HA

7/24/2006 11:35:00 PM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

well here's my one problem. i didn't glue the puzzle before i left the hotel. as i wlaked to my car i tripped and half the puzzle borke apart. thankfully i don't think much of the code was lost. lemme see if i can still read it.

7/24/2006 11:35:00 PM  
Blogger Love Pirate 77 said...

any chance there was a glyph on the back of the puzzle? That would probably be a bit of a stretch, but it would be cool.

7/24/2006 11:36:00 PM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

C2/5 C24/8 C28/9 C16/20 C16/23 C10/1+1 C20/1+1 C3/2 C8/2+5 C3/2+2 C1/13 C9/2

this is what one of the codes said... and i believe two or three of these were underlined whereas the rest weren't... i wonder if i can find the ones underlined.

7/24/2006 11:36:00 PM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

no glyph...sorry love pirate

7/24/2006 11:37:00 PM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

c8/2+5 was underlined for sure.

7/24/2006 11:38:00 PM  
Blogger Chaserace said...

my sister just graduated as a communications major too..

ok, anyways, the C# stuff reminds me of battleship, so it could be coordinates for like an army type thing?

also, if you were in need of a better, more visual picture of the back of the puzzle, you could put the puzzle up vertically (like hang it in a frame on a wall or something, put a camera on a tripod, shine a light on the back so itll glow well, turn out the lights, and leave the shutter of your camera open for a few seconds at least. that should help.

7/24/2006 11:39:00 PM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

i've got a digital camera... i dont know how to do that chase... and also the puzzle broke kinda.

7/24/2006 11:41:00 PM  
Blogger thisguypossessed said...

tapdawg - have you only completed one of the puzzles, cause if so i'm guessing you'd need to compare the glow in the dark messages from the other ones to make sense of the "coordinates"

7/24/2006 11:44:00 PM  
Blogger Heather's Brain said...

could the c's have something to do with cycle activity???

7/24/2006 11:44:00 PM  
Blogger engineer27 said...

tapdawg:
The snapshot I saw of the front of the puzzle seems to show that it is diagramming the interactions between all the characters. Maybe the "C" in all the codes is for Character, and the codes are pointing out the imprtant connections for you.

--meh?--

7/24/2006 11:45:00 PM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

i hope not... because then thye won't make sense until december when the 4th puzzle comes out.

7/24/2006 11:46:00 PM  
Blogger thisguypossessed said...

i hope not as well, but that's the kinda vibe i got from the card collections that you had on your blog, - collect them all and get special info about the show

7/24/2006 11:47:00 PM  
Blogger mikeyp228 said...

number 50!! woo hoo!!! sorry just had to do it always seeing people gloating.

7/24/2006 11:48:00 PM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

this is what the box says *spoiler warning: secrets are revealed! Do not assemble this puzzle unless you want exclusive new insight into Tv's most puzzling Drama Series *spoiler warning*

7/24/2006 11:49:00 PM  
Blogger engineer27 said...

Well, goodnight all. I really need some sleep. I leave with this bit of info. I sent myself a video sequence from hansoexposed.com, but my mail server bounced it (claiming "unacceptable content"). The bounce-back message I got was the following:

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at www.thehansofoundation.org.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

Remote host said: 554 5.7.1 Message rejected because of unacceptable content.

We knew that THF.org and hansoexposed were housed on the same server. Turns out they are using the same qmail as well!

7/24/2006 11:52:00 PM  
Blogger thisguypossessed said...

so apparently there's a Lost board game coming out too?! wow, they're really milking this show, plus i think there's a video game in the works as well

7/24/2006 11:56:00 PM  
Blogger Heather's Brain said...

I was hoping for a little help...I hear the moans...on the last thread Maven had mentioned a pattern to the codes. I had the same idea and had worked it out, but it didn't fit with a couple. I can not find the post Maven left because there are 500+...anyone remember the pattern Maven found?

7/24/2006 11:57:00 PM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

thisguy - the lost game will be out mid to late august. I was able to check it out at the con... looks cool enough... but prolly will only be super cool to the dwights.

heather- the pattern is with the borders of the glyphs... the ones with beardy had one type of border and the mw ones had a different border.

7/24/2006 11:59:00 PM  
Blogger Christine#2 said...

HEY GUYS it seems we are getting the fragments in somewhat types of grouping.
1st group= Mr. Beardy orientation type video
2nd group= mittlewerks orientation being secretly taped (sri lanka?)

7/25/2006 12:04:00 AM  
Blogger thisguypossessed said...

i hope the lost video game is a bit better than the attempt to make 24 into a game

7/25/2006 12:05:00 AM  
Blogger Love Pirate 77 said...

ok, this may have been brought up in other comments, but does anyone else think that rachel is definately alvar's daughter or granddaughter after the comic-con appearance? when she said "he is real and I am living proof of that?" she definately has a connection even if it isn't a blood connection.

7/25/2006 12:05:00 AM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

do you guys think the mw frags are a rachel video? like one she taped herself?

7/25/2006 12:05:00 AM  
Blogger Love Pirate 77 said...

christine, I agree completely. perhaps rachel will have filmed mittlewerk and have discovered the orientation-type film, and will somehow tie them both together

7/25/2006 12:06:00 AM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

thisguy- someone actually asked that about the game. and they said it'll be at least two times bettwe then the 24 game.

love pirate- when she began that portion of her speech i honestly thought she was about to say "Alvar Hanso is real and I know because my name is Rachel Hanso" but alas she said Rachel Blake not Hanso...

7/25/2006 12:07:00 AM  
Blogger Chelsea said...

Christine#2- I completely agree

LovePirate77- I think it is a blood connection. I believe she's his grandaughter.

TapDawg - It does look like Rachel shot the MW frags, he looked as he has in recent commercials. I wouldn't be surprised if we got a frag of Rachel herself soon. Of course, they might hold those for awhile to let us wonder.

7/25/2006 12:08:00 AM  
Blogger Love Pirate 77 said...

tapdawg- yeah I thought that was coming too when I watched the video... I bet it was awesome, the video alone gives me goosebumps, but maybe I'm strange like that

7/25/2006 12:09:00 AM  
Blogger Love Pirate 77 said...

I think we're still in Act 2, and that once we put all the frags together the monster video will lead into Act 3, this will be rachel's last vid and then we'll get something bigger for act 3

7/25/2006 12:11:00 AM  
Blogger Christine#2 said...

well, I wonder if these videos are having to do with what Rachel said at comic con. she said she has proof that the DHARMA initiative and what Mittlewerk is doing in Sri Lanka is real. She is probably showing different videos to prove each thing she said was real to prove it like she said. She also mentioned that Alvar Hanso is real, hopefully meaning that we get get a video of him also!

7/25/2006 12:12:00 AM  
Blogger Heather's Brain said...

well I thoght I read a pattern about the numbers turned into letters and then add them up to get the order they go in...

7/25/2006 12:12:00 AM  
Blogger thisguypossessed said...

i wonder if we'll go back to the 40'whatever day rule. it is seeming unlikely cause in only a couple days we already have around 10 clips out of 70

7/25/2006 12:12:00 AM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

yeah that was costa theory... but he added wrong and the theory was dropped.

7/25/2006 12:14:00 AM  
Blogger Mark Treitel said...

one thing about the orientation video that's very cool is we finally have info that the losties on the island do not...

unless they find the video
but it wouldn't be new info for the die hards on the site...

7/25/2006 12:14:00 AM  
Blogger thisguypossessed said...

oh, gotcha, i guess i missed that

7/25/2006 12:15:00 AM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

imagine if this video shows up on the island... now that would be awesome!

7/25/2006 12:15:00 AM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

alright guys, i'm going to head to bed now... hopefully we'll find the new clue or get more tomorrow. Night!

7/25/2006 12:16:00 AM  
Blogger Christine#2 said...

gn

7/25/2006 12:17:00 AM  
Blogger Love Pirate 77 said...

goodnight tapdawg

7/25/2006 12:17:00 AM  
Blogger thisguypossessed said...

i get the feeling that the orientation video portion of mr. beardy talking will likely turn up on the show at some point, just to tie the experience into the show and give the info we learn to the fans who aren't as into the lost experience

7/25/2006 12:17:00 AM  
Blogger Heather's Brain said...

oops, didn't mean to give miscredit. I knew I had read it though.

I thought RB said something about the code is the clue. Is there anything to dicypher in them...you guys are all so much smarter than I am I just can't figure it out!!!!!!!!!!!!

7/25/2006 12:18:00 AM  
Blogger thisguypossessed said...

thanks for all the info - tapdawg

7/25/2006 12:18:00 AM  
Blogger Love Pirate 77 said...

I could see the video showing up on the island in season 3, and that could be the connection. Maybe we'll learn background and what's going on with this video, and hanso, and the vik institute and all that, and it'll be summed up in this video, but for people who don't follow TLE then it'll stand alone on the show. but I think it will be way more than that.
just kinda thinking outloud.

7/25/2006 12:19:00 AM  
Blogger Love Pirate 77 said...

heather- you're just as smart as I am, I can't make heads or tails of decyphering it

7/25/2006 12:21:00 AM  
Blogger Heather's Brain said...

well, I think I am off to bed for now. I just thought this part of the game I would be able to be more interactive with...OCT 4 I CAN NOT WAIT!

7/25/2006 12:23:00 AM  
Blogger Love Pirate 77 said...

goodnight heather

7/25/2006 12:24:00 AM  
Blogger thisguypossessed said...

gn heather and your brain

7/25/2006 12:25:00 AM  
Blogger thisguypossessed said...

has anyone else found that hansoexposed.com screws up a lot? Everytime I save my sequence and click the link that pops up, it says i've found 0 fragments

7/25/2006 12:27:00 AM  
Blogger Love Pirate 77 said...

I get several problems with hansoexposed... fragments will vanish sometimes if I slightly misplace them... I've had it say I've found 0 fragments too, just like you said... I also was unable to view the orientation video for a while, it was just static... I think they're still working the bugs out of the system

7/25/2006 12:29:00 AM  
Blogger thisguypossessed said...

yeah, due to the glitchiness on hansoexposed, i've just written down all the codes cause i've had clips turn into "undefined" clips for no reason, it's pretty frustrating

7/25/2006 12:32:00 AM  
Blogger Love Pirate 77 said...

yeah, I think they rushed putting the site together and will be debugging it for a while.

7/25/2006 12:33:00 AM  
Blogger jonnysuede said...

Fulltime lurker, first time poster.

*possible spoilers ahead*

Anyway, I'm not even sure if this is relevant here, but I've been watching the fragment videos over and over (who hasn't been?). When watching "4ho" it seemed to me that Mittlwerk was moveing sort of strange. Then I remembered him limping when Rachel bumped into him. Fake leg? What's with all the scientists with fake appendages? Maybe you have to sacrifice a part of yourself to extend your life? Maybe they are using the limb to clone? I.E. Dr Candle, and Wickman (was that his name in the pearl orientation video?).

Maybe a Stretch, but it struck me as odd.

7/25/2006 12:34:00 AM  
Blogger Love Pirate 77 said...

I wonder if, since it was said that the codes would be delivered to a select few, if some random person who is signed up might get an email with a glyph and we'd have to rely on them to give it to the rest of us? I think that would be kind of cool (if it was me getting the inside info, that is)

7/25/2006 12:36:00 AM  
Blogger thisguypossessed said...

hmmm, interesting ideas johnny, i'm gonna have to go back and watch those clips even closer!

p.s. congrats on the first post

7/25/2006 12:37:00 AM  
Blogger thisguypossessed said...

love pirate- that would be sweet! unfortunately i'm pretty sure "a select few" means people like Speaker, and the Lost Ninja, aka administrators

7/25/2006 12:38:00 AM  
Blogger Love Pirate 77 said...

jonnysuede- mittlewerk does seem to be moving strange (just watched it again). he does seem to have a limp, from all the videos he's in... I don't know if it has anything to do with the LEP or if it's just a character trait, but I picked up on it too and it could be important later
(my first post was also tonight)

7/25/2006 12:39:00 AM  
Blogger thisguypossessed said...

it makes me kinda sad to think all these fragments are just posted blatantly, without searching for them, i miss rumaging through RoT and DJ dan websites

7/25/2006 12:39:00 AM  
Blogger Love Pirate 77 said...

thisguy- you're probably right, but we can always hope

7/25/2006 12:39:00 AM  
Blogger thisguypossessed said...

This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

7/25/2006 12:40:00 AM  
Blogger Chelsea said...

Welcome aboard Jonny.

MW is moving oddly. He was also limping in the ABC "Spirited Debate" commercial.
I still think Dr. Candle = Mr. Wickmund (who confirmed that spelling again?).

LP77 - I hope it wouldn't be a random person. Just becuase I assume that not everyone is interacting with other players. It's pessimistic, but there would be no way to ascertain that the code would make it to the general population. Although, I'd love to be that person as well!

(verify this: bmoboxbo)

7/25/2006 12:41:00 AM  
Blogger Love Pirate 77 said...

yeah, it seems like they're in a hurry to get all the fragments out, and that they don't want to take up time rummaging through the other websites, though that was more satisfying, but I'm going to enjoy piecing this vid together

7/25/2006 12:41:00 AM  
Blogger jonnysuede said...

Thanks, Thisguypossessed.

You know one thing that has really bothered me about this whole "experience"...the fact that we have been spoon fed every clue pretty much. I was hoping it would be a little more of a mystery. It seems as though the only way to get a clue is for someone to literaly tell us the clue, or we read it on a blog. I mean yeah we have to do some digging into some sites and what not.

I don't know, just wish I could use my detective skills more, instead of someone telling me a few codes to plug into a site.

Agree? Disagree?

7/25/2006 12:42:00 AM  
Blogger marigumi said...

A little LOST aside: Rodrigo Santoro (AKA Karl from Love, Actually) has been cast as the "new mystery man" for the upcoming season! I am very excited about this.

Here's the Ausiello Report, if you're interested:
http://community.tvguide.com/forum.jspa?forumID=700000049

WV: rrvshk a car breaking down

7/25/2006 12:43:00 AM  
Blogger trevorgladez said...

Hello all you codebusters out there. I havent posted since ComicCon, or HE went live. Of course, I have been following along religiously, have collected all the latest fragments, and read most of the posts, but it seems like nothing much is happening.
I know I am being a bit of a party pooper, but until we get about 20 (or 70!)more of these one second videos, it seems that there will be few new insights regarding the big picture of the ARG. It seems to me that there was a great deal more for us to discuss with the previous endeavors. I do think it is cool that the panel dudes wore secret wristbands, and wish I could have been at CC for all of the fun (big 'ol props to Topdawg, and N.M.mommie), I am just jealous, BUT because not all of us could participate,(and I think I speak for some overseas friends), this new stage is not as fun.
I know, I know, it will be more fun once we get more videos, and we will have more to discuss, but right now, we are just being given codes whenever TPTB want to give them up.
Does anyone see a change coming, or is this section of the game just going to be a little more tedious?


Sincerely,

MCO/TREV

7/25/2006 12:49:00 AM  
Blogger Love Pirate 77 said...

jonnysuede- I think they producers of lost and TLE are having to walk a fine line between people who like hunting for clues and people (more like myself) who are in it for the story. I think they've done an ok job. I'm pleased with the story, and while the clues seem to be rather basic at times, I'm not sure I personally would want them too complicated. But I think they could certainly use a bit more effort to uncover.

7/25/2006 12:49:00 AM  
Blogger thisguypossessed said...

Anhoo, i'm going to go finish reading The Third Policeman, thanks for all the great ideas everyone,

hopefully we get some more exciting action tomorrow!

7/25/2006 12:50:00 AM  
Blogger trevorgladez said...

Agree, Mr. Suede.

7/25/2006 12:51:00 AM  
Blogger Love Pirate 77 said...

trevorgladez- I think they will move this part along rather quickly, because I think many people feel/will feel the same way you do. I don't think one video could be so important that they would take up many weeks of us trying to put it together.

7/25/2006 12:51:00 AM  
Blogger jonnysuede said...

I see your point.

What's with RBlake making a flash site? With server communication? I mean a blog yeah, but flash design? come on.

So who wants to take a shot in the dark and theorize what we will learn from the video?

P.S. I think this the lost experience is one of the greatest things a show has done to date. It has really kept my mind off the fact that i'm not watching new episodes of lost!

7/25/2006 12:53:00 AM  
Blogger Chelsea said...

I'm guessing that we'll get the real story on the valenzetti equation.
And hopefully, to tie in with S3, more info on DHARMA.
We should also find out what the big bad MW is doing in Sri Lanka.

P.S. I've never enjoyed the summer hiatus more!

7/25/2006 12:57:00 AM  
Blogger Love Pirate 77 said...

I think we are going to finally learn the full story of what mittlewerk has been up to and what the overarching plot is that the antagonists have been hatching. I think act 2 will end with this video in the next two weeks, and rachel may or may not go missing, but after this video we will have the info we need, and act three will involve us trying to stop whatever's going on. I think act 1 was all the background and intro stuff, act 2 has been about discovering what is going on in the plot of the story, and act three will be us doing something about it. that's my hope at least

7/25/2006 12:57:00 AM  
Blogger Chelsea said...

Hey, an extra P.S. Is that island in the clip, THE island? I'm assuming so since it is at the moment the DeGroots are mentioned.

7/25/2006 12:58:00 AM  
Blogger Love Pirate 77 said...

chelsea- that was my first thought too. I hope it is, that would be an awesome connection. If not, it certainly looks like it.

7/25/2006 12:59:00 AM  
Blogger lyndak said...

"The DeGroots, the few high-ranking members of my organization." - My organization? Mr. Beardy's Alvar Hanso!

7/25/2006 01:01:00 AM  
Blogger trevorgladez said...

I agree that the producers are walking a fine line on this one, but If people haven't been following this game for at least a little while then they will have no idea what is going on now. The progress through the clues at THE and at RB's site provided a background that we are all vested in. A newcomer might see all 70 of the videos, but would probably not understand, or not realize the significance of things said in the HE video, unless they had gone through every single clue, and comment section, and that is unlikely. I suppose they could check the wrap ups, but that is no substitute for following along as it happens.

7/25/2006 01:01:00 AM  
Blogger b!X said...

I don't think these are going to be different videos. As I stated in some prior thread, I think what's happening is Rachel is filming a tlak by Mittelwerk during which he shows the old 1975 film featuring Alvar Hanso discussing the Dharma Initiative, etc.

7/25/2006 01:02:00 AM  
Blogger jonnysuede said...

interesting thoughts pirate.

i think the video will reveal many of the questions regarding the dharma inititive we have been asking ourselves since the end of season 2. one thing that is curious about the fragments so far is that we have clips from and old dharma inititive film (which i think will explain the purpose of the inititive) and then we have some shots of mittlwerk from behind some sort of crate. How do these clips that are from different time periods relate? and why are they in the same movie? sooo many questions! sooo few fragments to view!!! darn you lost and your questions with no answers!!!! DAAAARN YOU!

7/25/2006 01:03:00 AM  
Blogger Love Pirate 77 said...

b!x- I agree, I think it's the same video, or one where she combined the two. I don't think they're two separate things.

7/25/2006 01:03:00 AM  
Blogger trevorgladez said...

Not to say that newcomers are unwelcome, at all. Just that it might be harder to come by them because of how much has happened.

7/25/2006 01:05:00 AM  
Blogger jonnysuede said...

Beardy = Hanso? hmmmm, possible. I don't buy it though. I think the organization he refers to is the Dharma Inititive, and not Hanso.

7/25/2006 01:06:00 AM  
Blogger Love Pirate 77 said...

yeah, I don't buy the beardy=hanso. Looking at the hanso pic and at beardy, the facial structure looks very different, I bet you're right jonnysuede, I bet it's Dharma.

7/25/2006 01:08:00 AM  
Blogger trevorgladez said...

I don't think Hanso would appear in a commercial/ orientation film. He seems to select the top mugs who know what they are talking about to narrate/explain. Owners don't appear in commercials, besides Dave Thomas, of Wendy's fame, of course. ( Maybe that is a Midwest joint, I don't know.)

7/25/2006 01:11:00 AM  
Blogger jonnysuede said...

man, my fragments are out of wack again! Imagine when we have 40 or 50 placed in the timeline and then they go wacko on us! heads will roll!

7/25/2006 01:11:00 AM  
Blogger Love Pirate 77 said...

hanso is definately no Dave Thomas.
LOL

7/25/2006 01:12:00 AM  
Blogger jonnysuede said...

commissioned through the u.n. security council? hmm, i always thought the Dharma Inititive was far more hush hush. We are to assume governments are involved?

7/25/2006 01:14:00 AM  
Blogger Love Pirate 77 said...

jonnysuede- I think he was talking about the Valenzetti Eq. which was commissioned by the UN, he'll probably tie it in to what Dharma is doing

7/25/2006 01:15:00 AM  
Blogger jonnysuede said...

ahhh, now that is very interesting indeed. very good point. let me ask this...what do we know of sri lanka thus far?

7/25/2006 01:16:00 AM  
Blogger Love Pirate 77 said...

We don't know too much, only that Mittlewerk is up to something really big and evil there, and that it has to do with the SPIDER PROTOCOL and the Helgus Antonius (with the quarantine sections). One thought is that the ship is possibly being used to transport people to THE island from Sri Lanka (maybe the others?) and that that connects to Dharma and their research with the valenzetti eq. and the spider protocol is maybe the overall name for the plan for getting these people to the island.

7/25/2006 01:22:00 AM  
Blogger jonnysuede said...

but shouldn't the others be there already? since we are in 2006? TPTB sure did put a kink in the works with their comment about the possibility that time doesn't occur at the same speed on the island. lots of speculation about time on the island going faster. some say this could play into the healing factor. rose did have that conversation with lock saying that the two of them both know it won't take long for his leg to heal.

maybe we will learn about the sickness from the fragmented video. since the Helgus Antonius was under quarintine.

7/25/2006 01:27:00 AM  
Blogger Love Pirate 77 said...

yeah, the whole timeline thing is messing with my head. and on that note, it's bedtime. keep up the great discussions and thanks.
goodnight
gyarr!

7/25/2006 01:30:00 AM  
Blogger jonnysuede said...

later, thanks for the insight.

7/25/2006 01:31:00 AM  
Blogger trevorgladez said...

Nice. i knew Dave Thomas, I worked with Dave Thomas and you sir, are no Dave Thomas. ( Old dude to Qualye)
thanks for the backup, L. Pirate. You aaaarrrrgh pretty cool. sorry for that.

7/25/2006 02:08:00 AM  
Blogger Chelsea said...

I think the ship is to transport people OFF the island.
The quarrantined sections are because of the "illness" on the island.
I also think the UN confirmation refers to Valenzetti.
What if Beardy = Hanso's son? Rachel's father? Or, it's late (3am) and I'm off my rocker.
I'm assuming time moves faster on the island.
Maybe the Orientation video is shown during/after MW's speech and Rachel manages to grab a copy, which is why we see it as a whole instead of from a distance.
But I believe the 70 splices will reveal EVERYTHING about Rachel's Sri Lanka excursion.
Nightie Night!

7/25/2006 02:08:00 AM  
Blogger hodril said...

Hello ladies and gentlemen
lurker and first time posting

damn I'm amazed about Rodrigo Santoro being cast for the show
I'm brazilian (you can understand why my speech is so awful)
you can expect a great actor people...

P.S.: do you have ANY doubts about mr.beardy being alvar??

7/25/2006 02:25:00 AM  
Blogger Mark Treitel said...

No one else had done this yet so...

okay here's my suggested order and reasons why

divided up oreitnation film and mittlewerk film
i think orientation might come first ... but who know yet


#1
Code: OHGE Screen Text: THE DHARMA INITIATIVE ©1975 The Hanso Foundation

#2 Code: 7HKBH Transcript: "As with all you've already been told, you are bound by your honor and commitment to keep what you are about to hear a secret."

This feels like Hanso's about to say what's important..
this either comes before or after next two
may be before..sounds like what would be a beg.

#3) code: 88CH Transcript: "Commissioned under the highest secrecy through the U.N. Security Council..."


#4) Code: 1EY8AZCZNA2 Transcript: "The DeGroots, the few high-ranking members of my organization."
NOTE: 3 or 4 can be switched... depending on what comes before

#5) RRGYXS Transcript: "[we/you] [will/all] know that the [watchful/logical/one true] way has been found."
Sounds like the last piece before the end.

#6) Code: FVH7N
Transcript: "Thank you and namaste."
Screen Text: ©1975 THE HANSO FOUNDATION

obviously the end

MITTLEWERK SECTION

my basis is the way the camera is moving...
he moves into frame, walking to his right... our left...
in the other splices, he's already behind the green chalk board

#1)
Code: 4HO
Transcript: "We have done our level best, and yet..."

#2) Code: 748L
Transcript: "Know it by heart. Don't waver."

#3) Code: VDADOS7YRE0

7/25/2006 02:32:00 AM  
Blogger Chelsea said...

Okay, I'm really going to bed soon.

Sorry if this has been covered but...

Remember the "New York Streets" song that was played on the 800# for THF?
Remember the Jeep Compass Bobblehead commercial at the end of DJ Dan's last podcast?
Remember the Bobblehead in the LoveShack who was wearing a Jeep T-Shirt?
Guess what song is playing during the TV commercials for Jeep, featuring the Bobbleheads? You guessed it, "New York Streets."
Now I'm really going to bed, with that darn song in my head.

And hodril, I have some doubts, but I consider myself to be right in between schools of thought.

7/25/2006 02:35:00 AM  
Blogger Chelsea said...

Mark - I've got what you've got.

7/25/2006 02:35:00 AM  
Blogger jonnysuede said...

why are you so sure beardy is hanso?

7/25/2006 02:40:00 AM  
Blogger Christine#2 said...

that is not hanso, they would not give us a pic of him right off the bat. we are going to have to wait for that i am certain.

7/25/2006 02:54:00 AM  
Blogger Mark Treitel said...

if beardy is not hanso... it is irrelevant... he is still part of the orientation film...
probably is hanso because of the clue where they said hanso was in the 1975 dvd...

ALSO -- don't know if this means anything..

on speaker's image of the new glyph
FVH7N
the address is
http://www.insidetheexperience.com/images/fvh7n_2.jpg
[see for yourself]

i tried and found
http://www.insidetheexperience.com/images/fvh7n_1.jpg

so it was out there somewhere else...

7/25/2006 03:12:00 AM  
Blogger Mark Treitel said...

and by the way why is everyone so excited about being first in every new post...


i say we all start declaring

"Last!" OMG!

7/25/2006 03:13:00 AM  
Blogger johanngut said...

Beardy is Valenzetti

7/25/2006 03:16:00 AM  
Blogger Mark Treitel said...

Valenzetti is a good guess...

I just noticed that Beardy guy is a SPLIT second in UN clip
88ch

Therefore UN clip is probably before jungle clip

it's a lot easier to see clips in full view when they are together...

7/25/2006 03:27:00 AM  
Blogger Mark Treitel said...

hey just watching leaders board
johangut...
which piece did you get first?

7/25/2006 03:28:00 AM  
Blogger biotronx said...

mark, i was actually just checking that out myself. image 1 was created in photoshop, so i looked at the files and compared them...the only differences I saw were that in the file info, image 1 has references to illustrator (probably the program the glyph was created in) and seems to specify a thumbnail. Also it's 1 pixel shorter...

not much, but maybe some more advanced users could see if there's any other differences that I couldn't find...

why would they upload both versions??

7/25/2006 03:34:00 AM  
Blogger Mark Treitel said...

DID anyone notice a
PHONE RINGS - sounds like a CELL PHONE
in the END piece of Orientation film
[the one with the octagon symbol]

that is the transition sound
which means that THERE are def. multiple parts to this video

i now think that 4h0 is first in mittlewwerk
74 seonc
and vh.... third

7/25/2006 03:36:00 AM  
Blogger oodles said...

Who found the 10th glyph/fragment?
It was entered 7.19 am GMT.
Please share.

7/25/2006 03:39:00 AM  
Blogger Mark Treitel said...

re: two images...
i have no idea...

i have really looked all over tonight for images... the usual places...

it looks like we will be spoonfed...

the arranging the video is def. cool...

the only thing i can think of is that it was an edit and then image was added...
or maybe when the saved and uploaded it saved twice...


i was looking for stuff on jeep.com
it just ain't there...

it's even more frustrating b/c the other code could have been at comic-con...

ONE OTHER THING...

i find it interesting that hole2, hole3 and hole4.thehansofoundation.com are still up...

maybe they will come back one day to mean something...

7/25/2006 03:40:00 AM  
Blogger shaund316 said...

ok sorry if any of this has been posted already but I dont have time to read through all the comments right now, but:

1) in the new mittlewerk video (VDADOS7YRE0) did anyone see what I think was a dharma logo on the box/wall behind him?

2) it does sound as though mr.beardy is hanso when he mentions about the degroots being high up in MY organisation, and he has a scandiniavian accent, like hanso can be expected to have

3) do we have any ideas on the sequence yet? I've separated the mittlewerk clips and the orientation film clips but haven't got an order yet

7/25/2006 04:48:00 AM  
Blogger Lost In Portugal said...

Yeah, who entered the 10th code and what is it?!!

7/25/2006 04:50:00 AM  
Blogger jimbob89 said...

WHO?! WHERE?! WHAT?! WHEN?! HOW?!

WHO HAS THE TENTH CODE?!?!

7/25/2006 04:58:00 AM  
Blogger Lost In Portugal said...

The statistics file shows the 10th glyph being entered at 7.19 am GMT. And the leader board shows a [2] next to JustWillow. Someone's not sharing codes?!??!!?!

7/25/2006 05:09:00 AM  
Blogger jimbob89 said...

how do you acess the statistics file?

7/25/2006 05:14:00 AM  
Blogger Lost In Portugal said...

http://www.hansoexposed.com/xml/statistics/

All the 10 fragments are now published.

7/25/2006 05:15:00 AM  
Blogger jimbob89 said...

WE NEED YOU JUSTWILLOW!! COME FORWARD!!

7/25/2006 05:20:00 AM  
Blogger Parkie said...

Hi gang

Old news, but when you enter "Sri Lanka" as a code on sublymonal.com it brings up a string of numbers and the phrase "in Sinhala" (Sri Lanka's language)

Has anyone confirmed if this is significant or not? I've trawled the forums and can't seem to find any info on this...

My brain is melting - seeing codes EVERYWHERE!

7/25/2006 05:23:00 AM  
Blogger Lost In Portugal said...

Just Willow My Space

I'm not sure what "[2]" means...

7/25/2006 05:25:00 AM  
Blogger Midnight Ace said...

I've been looking around the various websites connected with this game, and I haven't found anything yet. Good thing I have time to kill. I'm only at work, after all. :)~

7/25/2006 05:25:00 AM  
Blogger JustWillow said...

Hi Guys!

JUST to set the record straight.. i only have 9 fragment codes!

no idea what or where the 10th one is...

7/25/2006 05:26:00 AM  
Blogger jimbob89 said...

just incase anyone is wondering.. i only have 9 fragments...

i dont think the 10th one has been found yet.. i dont trust the xml stats page...

Posted by: JustWillow | July 25, 2006 at 03:17 AM

this was on speakers blog...

7/25/2006 05:26:00 AM  
Blogger JustWillow said...

lol @ jimbob89


Thanks honey :D

7/25/2006 05:27:00 AM  
Blogger Midnight Ace said...

I'm thinking that the {2} might mean that Just Willow is in 2nd place (along with everyone else with 9), while the rest are tied for 1st place (with 10)... possible?

7/25/2006 05:27:00 AM  
Blogger jimbob89 said...

justwillow lol no probs...

7/25/2006 05:30:00 AM  
Blogger Lost In Portugal said...

If justwillow is in 2nd place why is shown on top of the leader board :-D?

justwillow: Maybe we are right about the xml stats page. We are not even sure "published" means "entered by a player"

7/25/2006 05:31:00 AM  
Blogger JustWillow said...

"The statistics file shows the 10th glyph being entered at 7.19 am GMT. And the leader board shows a [2] next to JustWillow. Someone's not sharing codes?!??!!?! "

i have the [2] because i entered 2 of the codes first. this was at roughly between 2 and 3am GMT before i went to bed... i havent entered any since, and i only have 9 so far... i really dont think the tenth has been found

7/25/2006 05:32:00 AM  
Blogger jimbob89 said...

Oh ok it was just a missunderstanding although I would have hoped it was true so you could have given us the tenth code :P

7/25/2006 05:36:00 AM  
Blogger Lost In Portugal said...

justwillow: Thanks for explaining that [2] thing to us! ;-D

7/25/2006 05:36:00 AM  
Blogger Lost In Portugal said...

justwillow: Oh, and sorry for the misunderstanding!

7/25/2006 05:38:00 AM  
Blogger Lost In Portugal said...

So, something happened to 10th code. It was published somewhere.

7/25/2006 05:42:00 AM  
Blogger JustWillow said...

no problem...

and seriously, if i find the 10th code.. i'm gonna be shouting about it all over the place!!!

JW x

7/25/2006 05:45:00 AM  
Blogger jimbob89 said...

Yes the tenth code has been published but it has not yet been found

7/25/2006 05:46:00 AM  
Blogger naughtyrev said...

Someone named Catseye has found the 10th....whoever they are, they're not telling.

7/25/2006 05:59:00 AM  
Blogger jimbob89 said...

How do you know?

everyone add me on jayt_89@msn.com

7/25/2006 06:03:00 AM  
Blogger winged_eel said...

I go to bed for like 8 hours and then the number of glyphs are doubled! According to that theory..carry the 2...

I am going to sleep for 36 hours tomorrow, lets see how many we get!

7/25/2006 06:11:00 AM  
Blogger blink said...

What is it with EW: http://img.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/060724/15573__lost_l.jpg ? I can't manage to make it work. Do you?

7/25/2006 06:23:00 AM  
Blogger Midnight Ace said...

*uploads link*

That shows a glyph with "3GTVI0M11" in it...

7/25/2006 06:28:00 AM  
Blogger purplejodes said...

Has anyone uploaded the lost comicon conference anywhere yet?

7/25/2006 06:28:00 AM  
Blogger Midnight Ace said...

However, that glyph number isn't accepted for me on hansoexposed, so either I'm reading something wrong (easily possible), or it's a 'bad' glyph...

7/25/2006 06:31:00 AM  
Blogger jonahadkins said...

Where'd you find that, Blink?

7/25/2006 06:31:00 AM  
Blogger blink said...

On the Entertainment weelky page (feature: Lost studying songs and symbols).

7/25/2006 06:34:00 AM  
Blogger Weezknight said...

Interesting that the "11" looks different from the rest of the glyph.

7/25/2006 06:35:00 AM  
Blogger Midnight Ace said...

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/commentary/0,6115,1218433_3_0_,00.html

Nice find, blink... now we just need to do something with it, heh...

7/25/2006 06:36:00 AM  
Blogger Weezknight said...

Also, is it possible that this glyph hasn't been loaded into the system yet?

7/25/2006 06:37:00 AM  
Blogger winged_eel said...

Just thinking about the order...we dont have a lot of info yet, but seeing how Mr. Beardy is on a few of the black and white video scenes....

I was thinking Intro - Mr. B talking - Black and white sections with (Alvar?) talking, - Back to Mr B then on to Mittelwerk?

Of course it is way too early, but it might be a good idea to think of ways to make good first guesses to cut down time.

I am pretty sure that the voices are different, one has a bit of an accent to it...

I don't know..Ill leave now.

Just my thoughts.

7/25/2006 06:40:00 AM  
Blogger jonahadkins said...

Can everyone get to their vids on HE....mine's not loading past the leaderboard screen?

7/25/2006 06:44:00 AM  
Blogger Midnight Ace said...

Jon: Yeah, I'm on there right now, didn't have any problems loading. But there might be a lot of people trying to do the mysterious EW glyph right now, creating lots of traffic.

7/25/2006 06:45:00 AM  
Blogger Lost In Portugal said...

I hope we don't have to deal with fake glyhps now..

7/25/2006 06:47:00 AM  
Blogger jonahadkins said...

Works now....when it loads the fragments recovered it puts a space between the 88ch and the 1ey one?

7/25/2006 06:47:00 AM  
Blogger dizzy said...

I was waiting for this to happen.
It was only a matter of time before people start posting fake glyphs.

7/25/2006 06:48:00 AM  
Blogger Midnight Ace said...

There is a comment stating that there will be a "major Doc Jensen scoop" on Wednesday. Maybe the glyph wasn't supposed to be up until then? Either that, or the guy just created one (which would suck).

7/25/2006 06:49:00 AM  
Blogger lilblondedude said...

whydo certain boxes go red randomly, it wontlet me play them? It seems to happen when i arrange them, it is the 2nd and 3rd box.

7/25/2006 06:50:00 AM  
Blogger jonahadkins said...

Next time they update the fragments released....we should try this "new" one....i can't see them letting EW post a fake one....doesn't accomplish much....

7/25/2006 06:51:00 AM  
Blogger Weezknight said...

I don't think it's a fake glyph, though. If you go to Entertainment Weekly's website you can access the article with the glyph. The author even links to HE.com in reference to the glyph. It seems legit, but it may not be "live" yet.

7/25/2006 06:51:00 AM  
Blogger blink said...

Another huge mistake: posting ahead of time?

7/25/2006 06:58:00 AM  
Blogger jonahadkins said...

.....so what can we gather from the clips so far....Mittlewerk is briefing a new "island" crew, and a new Dharma video....but the Dharma video is not shot from the same camera the mittlewerk clips are.....

btw...i'm starting to think the word verifications on here are glyph codes....i could be delirious tho....

7/25/2006 06:58:00 AM  
Blogger martin_cc said...

If this isn't the tenth glyph, then who has it and why are they not sharing?!! It's definitely been found by somebody.

7/25/2006 06:58:00 AM  
Blogger Pharmacopaeia said...

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7/25/2006 07:00:00 AM  
Blogger jonahadkins said...

on my login screen it says i've found ten when i only have 9...

7/25/2006 07:02:00 AM  
Blogger Lost In Portugal said...

There's nothing on http://hansoexposed.com/fragments/3gtvi0m11.flv

7/25/2006 07:03:00 AM  
Blogger Weezknight said...

pharm-
I was wondering the same thing. Can someone access the xml again, like yesterday? It will tell us the time that each clue was "entered."

7/25/2006 07:03:00 AM  
Blogger Lost In Portugal said...

fragment released="1153589062" published="1153592833"/>
fragment released="1153589094" published="1153592918"/>
fragment released="1153589124" published="1153611195"/>
fragment released="1153589184" published="1153717717"/>
fragment released="1153589217" published="1153788396"/>
fragment released="1153589247" published="1153786917"/>
fragment released="1153589292" published="1153786623"/>
fragment released="1153734123" published="1153734286"/>
fragment released="1153734210" published="1153811970"/>
fragment released="1153761962" published="1153786809"/>

7/25/2006 07:05:00 AM  
Blogger Weezknight said...

Thanks, lost-

So, according to the system, the last one has definately been found. We're assuming it's by the "catseye" person. At some point they'll share it, but it still would be nice to know if it's web-based, or another comic-con code.

7/25/2006 07:08:00 AM  
Blogger robc said...

btw 20 pounds/dollars says mr beardy is a young alvar hanso and that is the first oreintation vid.

7/25/2006 07:13:00 AM  
Blogger Midnight Ace said...

Current Leader Board:

[2] JustWillow
[1] marktry
[1] pilferk
[1] anomy
[1] johanngut
[1] hatterwar
[1] Codysmom
[1] Lavenda
[1] Catseye

Yep, the 10th one has been found. Weird that it's not being spread by Catseye all over the 'Net...

7/25/2006 07:17:00 AM  
Blogger Aui said...

I'm not sure, but in the 1EY8AZCZNA2 code Mr, beardy says "my organisation", that kinda makes him alvar, right?

7/25/2006 07:18:00 AM  
Blogger Weezknight said...

Time Stamps Converted (hopefully they're correct). I'm guessing times are GMT?

#1 released 22 July 2006 01:24:22 PM FOUND 22 July 2006 02:27:13 PM
#2 released 22 July 2006 01:24:54 PM FOUND 22 July 2006 02:28:38 PM
#3 released 22 July 2006 01:25:24 PM FOUND 22 July 2006 07:33:15 PM
#4 released 22 July 2006 01:26:24 PM FOUND 24 July 2006 01:08:37 AM
#5 released 22 July 2006 01:26:57 PM FOUND 24 July 2006 08:46:36 PM
#6 released 22 July 2006 01:27:27 PM FOUND 24 July 2006 08:21:57 PM
#7 released 22 July 2006 01:28:12 PM FOUND 24 July 2006 08:17:03 PM
#8 released 24 July 2006 05:42:03 AM FOUND 24 July 2006 05:44:46 AM
#9 released 24 July 2006 05:43:30 AM FOUND 25 July 2006 03:19:30 AM
#10 released 24 July 2006 01:26:02 PM FOUND 24 July 2006 08:20:09 PM

7/25/2006 07:20:00 AM  
Blogger robc said...

hey Aui great minds or else you gust knicked my idea, either way i think your right, we will get 2 seperate orienation films one from the past done by rahcheals dad/grandad/alvar hanso/mr beardy for the original dhama initive the other one by the big bad mittlework recorded by racheal hiding in a box so we can see how hansos dream has been distorted.

a couple more things which are just my theory's reali but i wdnt be surprised if hanso was vallenzetti, after working out the equation he bought all the rights to reprint so the world would never find it because of the danger it would bring to the world.

Mittlework/whoever hears about this equatio rises up in the foundation before getting rid or mr hanso

7/25/2006 07:28:00 AM  
Blogger Midnight Ace said...

Just as a theory, anyone thought of anything that would work with the code regarding Prince? I was looking over the EW article again, and it sure seems like an interesting comment below the glyph: "Would Prince himself be able to figure this glyph out?"

7/25/2006 07:33:00 AM  
Blogger Carol said...

weezknight, I don't think the times are GMT... it was about 10:30 am here when I got mine (I think the one I got was the 6th one released)... I'm in Australia and I think I'm 10 hours in front of GMT which would make it approx 12:30am on the 25th when I found mine GMT... these times seem to be somewhere in the US to my thinking. It's just gone 10:30pm here, these times seem to be 14 hours behind me... so where is it 8:30am? US eastern states?

7/25/2006 07:37:00 AM  
Blogger Weezknight said...

Lavenda-
Yes, I'm on the East coast, USA, and it's just about 8:30am here.

7/25/2006 07:40:00 AM  
Blogger jonahadkins said...

East Coast in the house...!

7/25/2006 07:41:00 AM  
Blogger paperlanterns said...

whats the link to the EW article, the one above i used only takes me to a page which say this page doesnt exist!

7/25/2006 07:41:00 AM  
Blogger Administrator said...

Clue #81 is posted...new thread already!

7/25/2006 07:42:00 AM  
Blogger Patrick said...

whats up guys?

7/25/2006 08:48:00 AM  

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