Clue #82 - Rachel Blake's "Catch Up With the Truth" Post & a Press Release from ABC
Rachel updated her Blog today with a post entitled "Catch Up With the Truth". This is a great way to catch up with all that has transpired in The Lost Experience. We also received a heads up from Matt The Pale about an ABC press release about the content and timing of The Lost Experience. Along with other juicy pieces of information, it seems that there are to be 5 phases to the game instead of 3. Check it out!
Thanks to Celine for being the first to e-mail us with this update.
Thanks to Celine for being the first to e-mail us with this update.
360 Comments:
Top ten... woot!
too bad rachel's new thread doesn't have any new glyphs....
doh! got left in the opld comments section. talkin to no one!
So, still no info about Catseye code?
I'm here in the top 10!!
whoo hooo!
This 12th glyph isgetting on my nerves... gotta be around here somewhere.
Here glyphie, glyphie...
dizzy: I decompiled the swf file. The codes are located on a xml file, which is access protected. It's probably located on the fragments directory.
so alvar was in on the manhattan project? interesting.
I would just like to Flame Catseye for a second...
WTF????
Why the hell are you keeping glyphs to yourself... If the game is meant to bring people together to solve the ultimate puzzle, why are you segragating everyone else... you suck!!!
also this is funny.
Are Rachel Blake and Persephone really the same person?
Yep. Not that I really think my word will stop you arguing about it.
tptb have just given up on convincing us of this and are just going to let it be at this point.
i was talking about rachel's faq's
dizzy said...
Has anyone tried decompiling the HE.com swf file?
I thought decompiling flash was considered cheating (and frowned upon as part of play)...didn't we cover that somewhere long ago?
Super _ I thought that yesterday.
i don't think flame wars was the way the game was meant to be played. if the code is not shared, it will be spoonfed to us elsewhere.
Yeah I have been saying in TLECMB chat room that I think the entire video will be Mittlewerk talking to a group of people, than showing them the orientation video. My guess anyway... lol
those are the two mittelwerk videos right?
Kenshiro2012,
I think they are on youtube already, they are just commercials for THF... One for life extention program and the other is for the Mathamatical forcasting initiative...
ken - those are old
i think catseye is in game and is holding on to a glyph we need to find that may start tie rachel to the clip.
just a thought.
I think we are all suspicious of rachel for seeming to evade or cut out any reference to who she is and why she is doing this.
Kenshiro, those have been there for a little bit....
ohge and ig3x go two gether. Those r the only two im absolutley 110% sure on.
I dont think ctseye has any thing because theres been twelve released and weve found all twelve and if she did have 1we found it
I only have 11/12 also.. cam79 do you have one to share?
sorry.. cam794... dang 4 sticks
no im sry we only have eleven so far so yes theres one more.
Reminder, Matt The Pale has a great summary of all the glyphs, how they were found etc...as well as a theory as to how they fit together, and instructions for he.com.
All you need to know about HansoExposed and the glyphs!
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CAM794,
If you have all twele then enlighten me plz...
I have only eleven, and I think this is the order so far as well...
4ho
748lvdados7yre0
igx3
ohge
3gtvi0m11
rrgyxs
7hkbh
88ch
1ey8azczna2
fvh7n
So which is the one I am missing???
Ok well at least I gave everyone the order I think they go in... lol
Kinisinai Cam.. is all good
None i thoght we had all twelve but i was mistaken so the is 1 still out there. SRY. KEEP SEARCHING!!!!!!!!
No, that order seems wrong, igx3 and vdados7yre0 come after the dharma video
Hey and Welcome kryptosean
my order
4ho
748l
ohge
3gtviom11
rrgyxs
7hkbn
88ch
1ey8azczna2
fvh7n
ig3x
vdados7yre0
kryptonsean - Mine are in almost the same order as yours, except that I have 7hkbh as my second clip. Since McBeardy says "what you are about to hear," I assume it would be closer to the beginning of the film.
that could be alvar but i highy dought(sp) it dosnt have the same facial features
For some reason this jumped out on my on Rachel's FAQ..."everything I’ve discovered has led me to the conclusion that the scientists of the DHARMA Initiative disappeared over 30 years ago."
We know Rachel's in her early 20s, so does this mean:
a. She is not the child of DeGroot
b. She was born on the island.
c. She is a test tube baby.
d. Other, more reasonable explanation.
and teehee "not that my word would stop you arguing about it."
kryptonsean - that makes sense too. Kind of like "Okay, you've seen the film, you're in the Dharma initiative now, so listen to these live instructions and keep them a secret." I gotcha.
NEW PHOTOS on Mandrake Wig's Flickr account
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mandrakewig
TWM says to Peter Thompson that if he wants to look at Hanso, just watch the orientation DVD. Maybe this is the one, and it IS hanso.
Wooo... Top 100!
The Pala Ferry goes to SriLanka maybe? :p
WOOOOOOOOOOO DANCING PANDA!!!!!!
So anyone have the 12th frag?
No not yet frogurt i really dont think any 1 is searching
Nope, but I bet it appears tonight.
huh. It's probably the one on DDK's wristband.
Just saying Hello and Let's find those darn glyphs, Yeah Baby....
I think this is definately the elusive orientation film - it has that "let me explain Dharma in a nutshell" quality about it. Which would make McBeardy Hanso for sure.
And frogurt, I gotta tell you - that dancing panda always brightens my day a little! :)
Apologies if this has been seen already, but this press release just came over the wire and I thought you all would be interested:
July 25, 2006
4 8 15 16 23 42
GLOBAL INTERACTIVE PHENOMENON, LOST EXPERIENCE, TO REVEAL MEANING
BEHIND MYSTERIOUS NUMBERS ON INTERNATIONAL HIT TV SHOW “LOST”
Multiple Clues on Several Continents Needed to Solve the Puzzle
As promised, the alternate reality game Lost Experience continues to divulge answers related to mysteries on “Lost.” Currently in phase three of five of the interactive challenge, the meaning behind the numbers 4 8 15 16 23 42, which play a significant role on the television series, will be revealed.
“The reward we’ve always promised from the Lost Experience is information, which is currency to anyone who is a fan of the show or a participant in this game,” said Mike Benson, senior vice president of Marketing for ABC Entertainment. “This additional form of storytelling allows us to engage current and new fans in a genuinely innovative way while delivering the same extraordinary content that ‘Lost’ provides as a television series.”
So far, the Lost Experience has unveiled information regarding the Black Rock, in addition to significance in the title of the DHARMA Initiative. The Lost Experience will continue to the premiere of Season Three, revealing secrets behind the mysterious Alvar Hanso and the Hanso Foundation.
It is not too late to join in on the Lost Experience. Those wishing to participate can do so by viewing a synopsis at http://www.insidethexperience.com/2006/07/fafasd.html which allows new participants the chance to enter into the Experience with ease.
About the Lost Experience
The Lost Experience follows a parallel storyline not featured in the television broadcast and is designed so that both fans of the series and those unfamiliar with the show can participate. The Experience provides insight to unlock some of the island’s secrets for those savvy enough to collect the clues, make the connections and find the answers. Clues first appeared May 2 in the UK, May 3 in the U.S., and May 4 in Australia. Although the Lost Experience is internet-based, participants should not assume that clues and story content will be limited to the online world. Any and every platform has the potential to contain hidden secrets. Given the different broadcast windows around the world, this challenge is designed in a manner that is not dependent on information specific to either Season One or Season Two, allowing those who have not yet seen either season of “Lost” to participate.
About “Lost”
After Oceanic Air flight 815 tore apart in mid-air and crashed on a seemingly deserted Pacific island, its survivors were forced to find inner strength they never knew they had in order to survive. The band of friends, family, enemies and strangers have become reluctant heroes who must work together against the cruel weather and harsh terrain if they want to stay alive. Danger and mystery loom behind every corner on the island, and those they thought could be trusted may turn against them. Even heroes have secrets.
“Lost” stars Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje as Mr. Eko, Naveen Andrews as Sayid, Emilie de Ravin as Claire, Matthew Fox as Jack, Jorge Garcia as Hurley, Josh Holloway as Sawyer, Daniel Dae Kim as Jin, Yunjin Kim as Sun, Evangeline Lilly as Kate, Dominic Monaghan as Charlie, Terry O’Quinn as Locke, Harold Perrineau as Michael, Michelle Rodriguez as Ana Lucia and Cynthia Watros as Libby.
“Lost” was created by Jeffrey Lieber and J.J. Abrams & Damon Lindelof. Abrams, Lindelof, Bryan Burk, Jack Bender and Carlton Cuse serve as executive producers. “Lost,” which is filmed entirely on location in Hawaii, is from Touchstone Television.
About ABC
ABC Entertainment offers quality, award-winning programming that includes many of the most widely viewed series, specials and movies. Primetime Entertainment on ABC crosses various programming genres with hit series like “Desperate Housewives,” “Lost,” “Grey’s Anatomy,” “Extreme Makeover: Home Edition,” “Boston Legal,” “According to Jim,” “George Lopez,” “Dancing with the Stars,” “America’s Funniest Home Videos,” “Supernanny” and “Wife Swap.” In Late-Night, “Jimmy Kimmel Live” celebrated its third anniversary in January, 2006. ABC Entertainment is part of the ABC Television Network and is managed by Disney-ABC Television Group, a division of The Walt Disney Company.
Media Contacts:
Disney-ABC Television Group
XXXX XXXXXXX [contact redacted by poster]
-- DISNEY-ABC TELEVISION GROUP --
mellisa, I'm glad it helps. In fact maybe EVERYONE should have little screens all over their houses with dancing pandas!
Maybe Manny's new photos are a clue to the next or missing glyph. Three statues...a man on his head, a man with his head through a building and a shark headfirst into a house. That last one can't possibly be a statue...it's gotta be photoshopped.
Argh. I have no idea what any of that means.
Maybe but nowones said any thing about DDK having a wristband on and if somewone noticed i think they would of said somthing by now.
About Frachel...
I am still sticking with my theory that she knows the Hanso Foundation is real because they cured her of something, and maybe let a friend or relative die at the same time, and this is her personal agenda to take them down.
My theory started when she used the painting of Persopine (Persephone), The painting was done By Rossetti and the woman who posed for the painting was a woman named Jand Burden Morris, She the kind of woman who did not communicate well with others, she loved to talk about others but never herself, as well she was bed ridden before she was twenty years old with tremendous back pain and problems with unknown illnesses, which she through some sort of MIRACLE she overcame and lived quite long.... JMHO
C-ya and Namaste
It will be interesting to see how quickly the participant count goes up this week. On hansoexposed this morning it was about 9,600 people involved.
Fastenyourseatbelts said... That last one can't possibly be a statue...it's gotta be photoshopped.
Which last one? the one titled "Statue"? That is a real statue: http://www.whitehat.com.au/Melbourne/People/LaTrobe.asp
okay, is it just me, or did Manny just change the captions on his photos?
Here's some info on the upside down man....he's in Melbourne.
The 5m statue of the state's first Lieutenant-Governor, Charles La Trobe, has been installed at the new City Museum in Gordon Reserve as part of the Making Melbourne exhibition at the Old Treasury building.
The plastic and fibreglass work resembles a 19th century bronze statue, except the historic figure is depicted on his head.
La Trobe held office from 1839 to 1854, helping to establish the Royal Botanic Gardens, State Library, Museum of Victoria, National Gallery of Victoria and University of Melbourne.
Artist Charles Robb said the inversion of La Trobe questioned the purpose of public monuments and their meaning in contemporary society.
jackgladney...that's amazing!
dennis...sorry, i menat the shark in the house.
jack gladney your pic is strange! says the kid with a pic of a dancing panda.
Yes, he did just change his captions. They used to say "statue in australia" or something similarly banal.
lost - has your panda alwyas danced that fast? he looks like he is having a fit (which is quite humorous) :D
I wonder: What the devil has gotten into Hanso's graphic designers? (And emphasis on devil.)
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/commentary/0,6115,1218433_3_0_,00.html
http://users.newblog.com/thinbluemime/
OT, but here is a story to pass the time:
I once went on a cruise to Bermuda. Once we got into port we had to wait to go through a customs area before we could disembark the ship. Before that all international passengers needed to report to Conference Room C to check their passports. This one guy (called Tom) wasn't in Conference Room C, and they made repeated announcements for him to go there for over an hour. All the while we waited in line to get off the ship...plus we missed our snorkling day trip. Turns out Tom was in the shower, and wasn't aware that THE ENTIRE ship was waiting for him. CATSEYE the ENTIRE ship is waiting for you....get out of the shower and please report to Conference Room C.
Manny's captions:
Upside down man: only in australia can you get a fresher perspective on the universe where evil lurks
Head through wall: there are days when i feel like hitting my head against a brick wall
Shark in house: from the outer space
what the?
I feel like we've gotten so little. I really hope that the fragments really tell us something.
noble- maybe it's not dancing but it's been having one really, really long spasm?
Ok then Jack.
LOL jess...I'm with ya!
History of Mandrake's captions (from \\ to)
Shark: strange statue \\ another strange statue \\ from the outer space
Gentleman: strange statue \\ there are days when i feel like hitting my head against a brick wall
Twisted: only in australia \\ only in australia can you get a fresher perspective on the universe where evil lurks
isrb maybe he's the leader of the DHARMA Organization?
in the end, this all might tie into david admin's theory about the degroots being rachel's birth parents.
Anyone know where the statue of the man with the head in the wall is from?
I'm kicking my self, because I just saw this recently... but I can't remember where.
There is a whole collection of these by the same artist. Statues of people standing in stange positions, feet sticking out of things, dogs statues, etc.
Jess, OMG what?
Somebody earlier posted the fact that if the Dharma scientists disappeared 30 years ago, as Rachel says, then the DeGroots probably can't be her parents.
They could however, be The Others.
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James said... If you type in "glyph" at sublymonal, you get a definition...
I think anything you type in the sublymonal box will give you a definiton. The definition look like they are coming straight from Wikipedia. Only things not found in wikipedia will give you an "error" message.
guys i found where manny got his pictures from
Where christine?!
check out http://www.haha.nu/funny/strange-statues-around-the-world/
i am further looking thru the site now for gylphs
Here's info on the head in the wall statue. It's called Corporate Head. Looks like it's in California.
http://www.publicartinla.com/Downtown/Poetswalk/
sorry for the url, still trying to figure out the html thang.
Stopping in to say HEY! I havent been on in awhile so thought I would at least make appearence.
Getting closer to getting the DSL back. STUPID DIAL UP and STUPID FIBROMYALGIA has "shut me down" for a bit, and I am missing out on TONS!!
Remember, anyone who wishes to aid us in DSL, go to my profile and find "the DSL fund" LOL!!
Hey Lena! I hope you get better soon and get your DSL back!! We miss you!
Belly - Can't wait to see all that you got while there!
I'm searching the stutue site too christine.
wv: aaajoy: Had a nestea?
i couldnt find anything on the site where manny got his pics from. oh well it was a thought
Thrasher here's a statue for you!
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c95/Saitozero/1514271086508156793_rs.jpg
Interestingly enough, on Christine#2's site, there is a posting by Henry Gale on July 24th.
There is an article from Matt the Pale on the main page direct from ABC concerning the timing of the game. Turns out there are 5 phases and we are in phase 3....check it out
What the...
Catseye Corner
Rachel Blakely?!
fysb wow that's cool, i ctrl+f'd it.
Belly - Cool! I will check it out when I get home.
Lostinfrogurt - I have seen that before, I think it is in Japan....
Just some abstract thinking...
I'm at work so I can't do this, but has anyone tried beal2o4 as a code? BeAl2O4 is the chemical symbol for cat's-eye, a semiprecious stone.
And that round looking digit is the letter pronounced "oh," not a zero.
Oh well. It was a shot in the dark.
No sry kyle it doesnt work
Kyle - Nope it does not seem to work...nice try though!
FYSB...where are you seeing the HG thing>
colduphere...i'm pretty sure it's just coincidence, but on the statue website christine#2 found, http://www.haha.nu/funny/strange-statues-around-the-world, if you scroll to the bottom where the comments are posted, there is one dated July 24 from Henry Gale. However, the statues he references in his post are somewhat graphic, so I'm thinking it's not our boy.
guys it seems that several people have posted on that site that are tle players... including joop!
New statues on Manny Flickr page scott. They appear in that site.
I'll turn up...eventually
Fastenyourseatbelts said... Here's info on the head in the wall statue. It's called Corporate Head. Looks like it's in California.
Good Job! THANKS!
BTW: to do the clicky-links, just put a < a > and a < /a > around the link (with no spaces). There is a reminder just above the comment box.
If you want to get fancy, you can put the link as an HREF in the < a > tag and the description in between, i.e. < a href="URL"> DESCRIPTION < /a>
FYI: < b > is bold, < i > is italic.
The head statute says it is in front of Ernst and Young. I just spend a whole bunch of time searching their website ey.com, but didn't seen anything.
Thanks Dennis. Here's a shot:
Catseyes in the road
So we are in ACT 3 of 5 right? COOL!!
lost & confused-glad to be of service...and glad I'm not the only one giggling today;)
Scott.E.Tuhauddy said... Manny who? and what's the link to her flickr page?
IRRC, Mandarke Wig was brought in game by the Retrievers of Truth .
He has a Myspace page and a Fliker Account and has revealed a few clues there.
Myspace: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=84830367
Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mandrakewig
ummm.... what info about the black rock? did i miss something??
firesign3000 said... maybe he's just telling us that fragments will come from all three countries.
I agree with this. We have already gotten clues from the US and Australia, now we need some from the UK.
Lost plays on Channel 4 in the UK. I checked out the Lost section, and didn't see anything, but it look a lot like the Speaker's site, so maybe something will be there in the future...?
Channel 4's Lost Site: http://www.channel4.com/entertainment/tv/microsites/L/lost/blog/index.jsp
Jack Gladney said...
Manny hasn't ever really given us much and is a product of corporate sponsorship
Agreed!
I seem to recall that Manny and his flicker pictures have only really led us to one clue...the Spider Protocol tri-color memo back in clue 65-67 (which Belly guessed anyway). And the only picture that led us to anything was the truck on the grass=money(green). I'm not really sure if Manny is actually telling us anything with his pictures other than maybe we need to notice the obvious in them rather than where/what they are. JMHO though;)
Lost Ninja gave us 3 glyphs. He's an AUS connection...
Pole: How many people checked out the ABC article from MTP and clicked every link on it looking for a glyph?
*raises hand*
Well, Manny's photos obviously have something to do with the three major lost markets: Aus, Eng and US. So far TODAY, we've gotten clues from England (the podcast) and the US (Doc Jensen). What if the Cateyes clue is the Aus clue (as has been previously speculated)? That would give us one clue from each market today. My only reservation is, would TPTB really go about uploading pics and updating Manny's site for the sole purpose of saying "here's where the clues are going to come from?" Is it possible that there are glyphs AT the actual statues and we are meant to find them?
Manny's pics seldom lead us to clues, because Manny's pics ARE the clues....in the overall story arc, and the location of the lost island
Put your head in the sand and look down......that's Hades
*edit that (3 or 4 up) should say POLL:...ugh spellcheck.
thinbluemime said...
Manny's pics seldom lead us to clues, because Manny's pics ARE the clues....in the overall story arc, and the location of the lost island
Why do you think Manny's pictures lead to the location of the island? I'm still not in the camp that the game will reveal specific information like where the island is or anything about the characters there...only the why of the island, and the reason it is there, but again, just my opinion.
you've got it right restless. In addition, the Black Rock was a slave trade ship captained by Magnus Hanso ... A relative of Alvar. At least, that's MY understanding ...
Ange: *raising my hand and looking around sheepishly* Oh and the typo... i thought you were just responding to someone on here named Pole whose comment I had missed...
:D
Regarding DDK's wristband: I'm pretty sure that this one was already revealed by Ninja's *ahem* comic-con attending photographer friend... yeah...
So still just trying to find the Catseye clue...
"HEY CATSEYE! WAKE UP! YOU'VE SLEPT LONG ENOUGH!
pedalin-I amended that pole/poll typo a couple of posts below it...spellcheck was not my friend;)
ange: I know you amended it... I'm just saying, I wouldn't have noticed your typo had you not ammended it... unless I went looking for this Pole character...
;)
Ange said...
"Why do you think Manny's pictures lead to the location of the island?"
Because the island is not ON earth......it is IN earth
Go back and note all the references recently to "hell" "underworld" and etc
(Remeber this is Sci-Fi, so a snow globe world, or hollow earth island location is very much within the realm of LOST)
ok, who read the abc article and peed their pants at least a little when they found out the meaning of the numbers will be revealed by the arg.
if peeing your pants is cool, call me Miles Davis!
oxillini - everyone our age pees their pants. peein' in your pants is cool!
what article?
Sorry I don't have time to search all the comments. Exploring HansoExposed some more. Is there only one order which will play all the clips in on the View Screen? I didn't test all the combinations, but it seemed that way to me.
Or "underworld" could refer to an underwater sea station that will enable certain humans to escape a nuclear fall out. There have been indications of that too.
i firmly believe tptb will not go hollow earth on this, completely rejects any notion of science.
Bluemime-I'm afraid we've unearthed the question that has chronically plagues Lost...the two camps. sci-fi or science. I though that the writers had stated that the answer to the island would lie in science or psudo-science of some kind...meaning something that could be scientifically explained even if it does not necessarily exist at the moment. I really like your theory though, I've actually never thought of that. All of the references to hell would fit, but I don't think it goes with what the show writers have stated.
pedalin-LOL I hope people don't google Pole or try to enter Pole as a code...eek!
Is it just me or did the clues lately become more "DSL NEEDED" than before? LOL
Its just not fair....wwwwaaaaahhhhhhh
EVERYTHING requires high speed DARNNIT!!!
well, i think they said knowledge of the show is not necessary for the game, they never said the show wouldn't provide insight into mysteries of the show.
Damon said the losties were not in purgatory, he did not say they were not in Hades, there is a subtle difference, and you know how Damon likes to play with words....LOL
roomforhuman:
I thought so too. But there was some buzz a few days ago about the test pattern and when it shows up. On the VIEW screen, we know the test patter plays for the blank screens.
I just put about 9 of the clips on the Timeline and viewed them in the view screen. Several of the clips did not play but came up as the test screen until I rearranged them. After I arranged them so I got all of the clips to play, I experimented with changing their order. Once again one or two wouldn't play if I switched them around. Has anyone else had this experience?
oxillini, um, miles, yeah, a little pee maybe.
who saw that numbers reveal coming?
so part three of five is putting together the sri lanka video. what happens when we finally know the truth? try and stop them? and how will THF fight back?
wv:smokuge...smoke oogy? is that a message from the surgeon general
twinkle, I had the same issue. I also found that when I saved it and went to the link I would just get snow. Then went back and moved mine around...then saved...then the screen said there were 11/11 and it played them all!
kinda meningful, now if only we KNEW what it meant!
i was convinced the numbers would be the most guarded secret of all righ up until the show wraps up. wow! between that and the debunking of smokie=nanites, it's been a big day. gonna need a nap soon!
belly: We don't know if Catseye doesn't want us to know the code. Maybe he/she is in-game, who knows.
oh, someone made a joking comment about using word verifications next in a desperate attempt to find another glyph...I laugh but look at them, sure seems that is what they are!!!!
Just killing time, sorry to fill the void with useless ramble
oxillini said...
"i was convinced the numbers would be the most guarded secret of all right up until the show wraps up"
I was convinced the meaning of the numbers would NEVER be revealed, though I have partially decyphered them.
I still wonder if the original true meaning of the numbers will ever be revealed....
Here is my summary from Jan 2006...
http://users.newblog.com/thinbluemime/?post_id=1043
is anyone else convinced that mr beardy IS IN FACT Alvar Hanso? and...TWM is showing this film to a group in a "classroom style" room. RB (assuming) is videotaping all this... so TWM (horizontal view finder) frags aer first, then 1975 AH clips...then the vertical view finder TWM clips???
I am just trying to do something until one of you shouts....I HAVE A NEW GLYPH....soon I hope!!!
***spoilers**
jamaster: I think they want to get past the numbers and the Swan Hatch. I heard that they won't explain everything about the numbers nor every coincidence. But the show needs to move on if it is going to maintain momentum. I'm glad to hear they'll be developing the history of the island before Dharma.
As for the smoke monster not being nanites, then what in psuedo-science could it be!?
It seems to me the whole "island is hell/purgatory" idea, while admittedly having a certain aesthetic appeal, would really mess with the alternate reality of the game if true. i cant see the connection - if the losties are actually dead ... and all of this is some kind of "waking dream" (mandrake anagram) ... where does rachel fit in? especially now that the game characters are making real life appearances - the game/show producers seem to be making an strong effort to "blur" reality with entertainment (which i find fascinating), but it would make it difficult to resolve the whole scenario if the island were not real, the survivors were dead, in purgatory, etc ...
Still, it would explain a lot of things .. everyone on the island has a questionable history of some sort and the shows producers have taken pains to reveal them ... all things that could relate to ones fate in a possible afterlife ... Mandrake Wig Waking Dream and Gary Troup/Purgatory ? - God doesnt know where the island is according to fake Henry ... I dont know, they would have to tie it up really neat in the end if this were the actual resolution, or it would come off very cheesy, like a betrayal of our interest ... kind of an "itwas all a dream" ending, which in my opinion, would suck.
Actually I do not believe in an afterlife per se but it would make for an interesting story, if done right ..
Just some thoughts ... thought I would share.
Unless of course Mr Beardy IS actually Chuck Norris (tell me he doesnt look like him!), in which case the Valenzetti Equation would be an formula for determining when the world would end - by a roundhouse kick to the face.
http://www.meinmediaservices.com/wristbnd.html
heather's brain - that's my idea too. I posted it a while back ... I think in the previous post actually! But I'm totally with you.
Evenin' all.
So the suggestion seems to be that this video is about the numbers? That is pretty cool.
I suppose some people will be wondering if revealing this stuff will possibly Ruin some of the mystery, be a bit of a let down, or move the show far away from these elements.
I don't think it will do any of that. The show doesn't have to move away totally from all of this. Knowing about things like the numbers won't ruin the fun because the Losties won't know and that is stil important. Remember the Hitchcock-bomb principle of suspense? As for the mystery, well I think we all saw last season that for every question answered two more turn up. They have to solve some mysteries or else things would get out of control. As for anti-climax. Well whatever people say about the ARG writers we have to assume these major elements were written by the full Lost crew with JJ and everyone on board, so I don't think it'll be a let down.
Btw, is anyone here not a lost fan? I keep seeing talk about the experience appealing to people that haven't seen lost. Okay...um, firstly would anyone that Lost doesn't appeal to be remotely interested in this kind of thing in the first place, and secondly I haven't talked to a singler person involved in this that wasn't a lost NUT! I don't know why they even bother saying that stuff. Lol.
heather: That's what others were saying before only I didn't pay attention. I've got all 11 on now and they only *all* play one after another with no test patterns interrupting when I have them in 1 order. Are they giving the order to us that way?
P.S. You can view your timeline without saving if you look up in the top right corner there are three views, Arrange, Inspect, and View. Arrange is the default. I like inspect because you can play any clip you click on. View is the one that plays the timeline and seems to only play the clips in one order.
sorry mother, It is hard to keep up with over 500 comments between two or three bloggers and EVERYONE posting on all of them...I try harder everyday to read most of them BEFORE I post, but not always good at it. You know, I am beginning to wonder if many of the players here have lives outside of this thing. I am so wrapped up now I can not get my laundry done, school work ready for the kids or even cook! I JUST CAN'T LEAVE THE COMPUTER.....SOMETHING MAY HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
quick, unplug me!
ahh, the old reliable chuck norris theory. good to see it around.
regarding smokie, perhaps it is trained gnats. like nanites, but easier to breed.
the losties do not have to be dead to be in Hades or Hell...Hades is just the realm of the underworld, the below ground realm of Lord Hades, whose wife is....you guessed it Persephone
What better place to hide an island then the earth's interior...hey, might ja not need a special ship to travel there?
the losties do not have to be dead to be in Hades or Hell...Hades is just the realm of the underworld, the below ground realm of Lord Hades, whose wife is....you guessed it Persephone
What better place to hide an island then the earth's interior...hey, might ja not need a special ship to travel there?
I thionk Hades/Purgatory/Hollow Earth are all too far off the scientific path to explain the island.
thin, now youre getting in to the realm of fantasy ... it would be a totally different direction for the show i think
But i forgot about the Persephone / Hades thing ... that is interesting too
Twinkle,
I have the same problem. Was wondering if it its a way to determine whether clips are in the right slot. Could you post your sequence?
I thought Doc Jensen's thoughts about original sin (see article posted on TLEC #81) was interesting. I didn't think people took that seriously anymore. It was good to see someone talking about it.
ya Twinkle I got all that, I just found out what happened when you saved and that was interesting to me. Kind of like you said...only one order accepted...at least that was my experience too. So what is your order then and we will see if it fits.
wv:lmdnova...Lame Duck Nova? this is how to explain Lost...with Nova on PBS???? Great I'll never get it! J/K
oh, oxillini! Easier to breed indeed! Just ask the old bananas on my counter!
twinkle, have you tried training them, start by having them drag things around and work your way up to having them take on people's worst fears. baby steps!
oodles, I don't think it has to do with what slot it's in. There are obvious gaps between the clips even though I put them one right after another. I think it's the order that the Timeline reacts to. I'm not sure how to post my sequence and I've got to run. I could use the e-mail it so you feature on hansoexposed if you're willing to give me an addy?
oxillini, do you think they'd change diapers!?
i missed something when did they bring up the black rock?
please refresh my memory
rachel did a little resaerch when she found out hanso group (not foundation) is involved with shipping via allied copenhagen.
heather's brain - no no no! I wasn't trying to be um ... witchy ... I was excited to have someone else agree with me!! Trust me, I know how hard it is to read through 500+ posts! Yay for agreeing on the order!!
okay so here is my thought again...once again appolies for repeating others have thought first...what if it isn't a classroom...after viewing once more I see many large boxes seemingly wrapped in celophane like they would for transporting cargo...now with that in mind I believe our video tape artist (RB) is behind crates/boxes. Remember the ship? Perhaps this is an orientation "class" to the island the Antonius was headed to (Sri Lanka) and blah blah blah...okay I have nothing but I am just tired of never being able to say my theories without hearing...Heather, we got that FOUR HUNDRED DAYS AGO...get back to your corner!"
Just kidding...frustration abounds....
Hey thin, that reminds me of a film. Um, um, it's a really famous one who's name I can't remember embaressingly. There was like a giant squid that grabbed this ship and pulled it under the water and into this like, atlantis type place, that was an island underneath the sea and earth itself.
Hmm, perhaps it is atlantis.
Do you suppose Mittlewerk is giving a pep talk to "the others"?
so here is my order and we see if you have same...ok?
4ho
748l
ohge
88ch
1ey8azczna2
3gtvi0m11
7hkbh
rrgyxs
fvh7n
ig3x
vdados7yre0
LOL, mother...funny how words on a screen do not convey the sarcasm in my voice...wonder why that is?
Twinkle,
when you view your sequence, there is a URL at the top of your browser
like
http://hansoexposed.com/player/[code]
just copy and paste
ncamren...actually oesn't TWM have a remote at the end to shut it off?
hi megs.
welcome back.
how was the rest of your trip.
and i second that beardy=hanso.
Fenris: 2,000 Leagues Under the Sea I think Captain Nemo? (not the fish)
RE: Orientation
In one clip, IG3X, someone (Mittlework) appears to be shutting the video off with a remote.
RE: Black Rock
Here's the Lostpedia link to that clue. Black Rock stuff is at the bottom. http://lostpedia.com/wiki/The_Lost_Experience_clues/June_20#Rachel_Blake_Merchant_Marine_Clue
OH MY GOD I FOUND A GLYPH
oodles, Thanks! Didn't realize you wouldn't have to log in as me to view it. http://hansoexposed.com/player/ec60a59d8bf98afa6d728d1e8c1f8dbc
no prob megs.
did you find all the glyphs?
ditto what twinkle said
whats the glyph. dont go all catseye on us!!!
andres: OH MY GOD AND WE ARE GOING TO SHARE WITH US OR WHAT?
Megs, your right, unless this was not our "Others" but the "Others" intended for this new island.
hey team lena, why don't you get Verizon DSL! Or maybe you should move somewhere that has DSL, you can move better using the all-new 2007 Jeep compass. And if you're tired out, grab a Sprite, and look for a new job on Monster, lol. Hey, why does everyone think catseye has the last glyph. maybe NO ONE has the last glyph, or maybe it will be a dramatic ploy, the last fragment released.
thats whats its going to sound when i finally find one. This down time between codes is killing me
OH NOW THAT WAS NOT FAIR....boo hiss booo
:)
what-it's-THE GLIPH!!! The name is show above the fragments...SAY US!
heather, I've got
4ho
748L
ohge
7hkbh
3gtvi0m11
88ch
7ey8azczna2
rrgyxs
fvh7n
ig3x
vdados7yre0
So, we're pretty much agreed on beginning and end ... and we don't have many context clues for the middle of the Dharma video yet, so I think we're doing pretty well!!
comment 300.
hold on, is there a podcast tonight? the admins have been doing it on tuesdays.
my thinking on the middle clips...there are small flashes where the Mr McBerdy is standing for a flash then close up talking or something like that. So I put them together based on that stuff. You are right about no context...it is like listening to my youngest when he was three. Everyone would say, WHAT DID HE JUST SAY? Sad part is, I understood him, I do not understand Mr. McBeardy!! :)
so mother, are we then to assume that the differences in our line up do not affect the play of the video the way we originally suspected?
That is how I see it.
unfortunately, not as of yet, megs.
This "catseye stuff" doesn't make sense. Just think about it, someone who doesn't go to any of the big blogs/forums, finds a glyph that seems to be extremely hard to find?!
im actually beginning to think that there will be no more djdan. id doesnt say when his next podcast is, and its already been over 2 weeks.
actually heather, my sequence had been playing fine, but when I just logged in to get my sequence, some of my fragments were in storage. That's never happened to me before. When I put them back in the EXACT way I had them earlier, it leaves holes. Which is so weird because until JUST NOW, I've never had a problem getting ANY sequence to play... i don't know if it's the site telling us how to order the fragments or just another issue with he.com (very likely!).
again, another comment someone else has already made....3 glyphs from Speaker...3 glyphs from Rachel...3 glyphs from nynja...the last three are seemingly from outside individuals, Doc Jensen, Channel 4 and where ever catseye found it. Any thoughts to Catseye writing a blog and posting it there? Anyone found him/her in any message boards or aim or something? he/she/it not on myspace unless old account coming back into service soon.
BOARD TO TEARS...LOOKING FOR GLYPH...or PLACE WHERE GLYPH IS HIDDEN...MUST....FIND....GLYPH! (spoken with horse, dry voice as in serach of water)
Wow what a day. Hey everybody. I haven't been able to get on the computer since yesterday morning- by the time the blogger problems were over I was out of pocket. Starting to feel like Team Lena. j/k
Can't believe someone is withholding a glyph. Totally not cool. But Belly, at least you're looking at the bright side- gives us something to do. Unfortunately, it's hard for me to have the same attitude! lol
Heather, I can just imagine you crawling through the desert ...
Wow these comments are in peek time I see.
Firstly Twinkle, thanks, that was indeed the film I was refering too. I said it was embaressing I couldn't remember what it was called, especially as I consider myself a movie buff damn it. Lol.
Megs - Well, it's possible they are doing something like that. I mean it kind of makes sense plot wise as a mechanism to explain background lost stuff to us. But I wouldn't really say it's my current theory. To be honest I am firmly sitting on all fences (despite the pain) until we have some more of that video.
you know
ive been thinking of the name catseye. With us looking for glyphs its kinda funny that a "Catseye" is holding out on us.
if you go with the name heiroglphys which in the show have been egyptian in nature.
cats were prized animals and even worshipped by the egyptians.
in fact
i think rachel is catseye
heres my thoughts feel free to call me a quack.
egyptians had a cat like god named bast who was the goddess of home and sometimes however there are times that bast took the role of a lioness and became war-like. Bast was also the daughter of Ra.
Ra being the sun god.
Alvar hanso = Ra lets say
so with my theory catseye can also mean bast which is the daughter of Alvar and who lately has taken a warlike stance on the hanso foundation but our own sexy lady Rachel
rachel = bast = catseye
all info taken from wiki
your mother: that is what twinkles had brought up as a problem and I had experienced the EXACT same thing you are describing. After you drop it back where you had it, it then goes red with unknown up above...right?
This sequence I have now, no problems at all!
That is what we were trying to find out, could the proper sequence with the current fragments be "shown' to us this way?
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heres a bit more again taken from wiki
Bast was also associated with the "eye of Ra," acting as the instrument of the sun god's vengeance. She was depicted as a cat or in human form with the head of a cat, often holding the sacred rattle known as the sistrum.
okay, andres...I think you see a "mirage" in the dessert (going with my need "water" theme) You are being mislead by your parched brain! Step back from the 'puter and take a breather my friend...maybe we all should...I JUST CAN'T................... WHERE IS IT!@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
your mother: Please keep posting about your hansoexposed sequence as you figure it out. For some reason I'm obsessed with documenting HE.com. :-)
Dan Manning said...
hey team lena, why don't you get Verizon DSL! Or maybe you should move somewhere that has DSL, you can move better using the all-new 2007 Jeep compass. And if you're tired out, grab a Sprite, and look for a new job on Monster, lol.
HEHEHE....yes, feelin a sudden erge for Sprite lately!! LOL
Thanks Twinkle,
Well, I have now ordered my 11 fragments the exact same way that twinkle has and what do I get in "View" 6/6 arrghh.
Is that site just buggy or what?
could catseye be ingame?
I need the code...I think it's very important!!
Cat's eye...SHOW YOU xD!!
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