Clue # 84 - Fragment Codes "M6XY398" & "3ZGT" & RoT Update
Fragment Codes
Over at The Lost Ninja's Blog our next glyph fragment code has been found. "M6XY398" is of Mr. Beardy saying, "After the Cuban missile crisis, both nations decided to find a solution. The result..." The next code, "3ZGT" was found on a page at The Fuselage . The transcript of this one reads, "The precise location of the facility is known only to myself."
*See Clues 77-80 for more info on glyphs, fragment codes, and hansoexposed.com or check out Matt the Pale's summary of all the found fragment codes at...Matt the Pale's HansoExposed Video Fragment Code List
Retrievers of Truth
The RoT guys updated their page and BroadBandBeatnik is back and was also at Comic Con and has this picture from the show.
Thanks to Lavenda, DazzedElf, Lost Soul, Pilferk and Sid for being the first to e-mail us this update.
Over at The Lost Ninja's Blog our next glyph fragment code has been found. "M6XY398" is of Mr. Beardy saying, "After the Cuban missile crisis, both nations decided to find a solution. The result..." The next code, "3ZGT" was found on a page at The Fuselage . The transcript of this one reads, "The precise location of the facility is known only to myself."
*See Clues 77-80 for more info on glyphs, fragment codes, and hansoexposed.com or check out Matt the Pale's summary of all the found fragment codes at...Matt the Pale's HansoExposed Video Fragment Code List
Retrievers of Truth
The RoT guys updated their page and BroadBandBeatnik is back and was also at Comic Con and has this picture from the show.
Thanks to Lavenda, DazzedElf, Lost Soul, Pilferk and Sid for being the first to e-mail us this update.
399 Comments:
First!!! Cheater!!!
So what happened to the whole "hidden all over the web" aspect of this? We're hearing them on podcasts and now they're being fouund in the real world? It's cool, but why are they changing the rules?
I'm proud of myself ... I actually waited until *after* I'd found it to hop on here :)
it seems like there's a pattern or method to the releasing of the glyphs.
OOOh... top ten first timer!
Ugh. That glyph popped up like, 2 minutes after I checked LostNinja's site before I left for work. Interesting though. Definately helping us put the picture together.
sean said...
it seems like there's a pattern or method to the releasing of the glyphs.
Sean - I think the certainly have a plan. But what puzzels me is that RB said scour the web for them and yet they have been in the real world too. Which is cool. But it is a conflict of what she said. And as far as finding them. They have either been handed to us from one of the 3 major blog operators or just magically apear from mysterious posters like Catseye...this has not been too much fun...the fun part has been putting the pieces together...but big deal! I want to have to use team work and some brains to find these glyph codes...In act one the clues were good and the methods to figure them out were amazing...this seems very ho-hum to me....
hah, thanks!
thrasher, I totally agree with you. What's the point of having us go through all the trouble of hunting this video piece by piece if they're just going to put it right out there. And I notice we've never had to check pages inside of pages ... you go to the main page, and BAM, either the glyph is there, or there's a direct link to it. At least with some of the other clues, you had to go to the site, find the link that led to it (and it was usually some innocuous link like the one on the Aussie message board for the sound file) and then figure it all out. This ... not fun.
i agree thrash. this whole part of the game should have been more like an internet scavanger hunt. the outcome of the game would be controlled by the players. instead, tptb are guiding us through every last inch. it seems to me that it would be more fun if we had to find the glyphs on our own.
I wonder if there will be a 5 minute sprite advert taped on the end :)
I understand they have to release things gradually or else obsessive people will just find everything, but just feeding these things to us through the sources they've used so far has been pretty basic. They haven't been hard to find and as a result it's just been about people spending more time online refreshing pages to get on the leaderboard rather then actually doing anything clever. It's a fair typical design for online games really, rather then gearing the game to the skilled player with less time they gear it towards the obsessive power gamer that simply has too much time on their hands.
This is getting boring now, yes.
I think that maybe if we had to search as hard for the glyphs as we did for other things, it would take too long...
I hope that TPTB are reading these message boards and are taking us, THE FANS, into consideration as they tweak the game...this truly is not much fun. I thought they would be pointing us into a direction and then off we go and find it...not posting them on sites we all check daily...So, yes I am salty, and yes I am not enjoying this phase...The fragments are cool, I can't wait to see the entire thing....other than that...meh!
Indeed. I long for the days of phase one. :)
It would have been kinda cool if the glyphs were already in the sources we've downloaded and seen over the first two episodes. Had they thought that far ahead. I mean why couldn't Rachel think ahead like that. She just had to say to herself "there is going to be something big at some point and I'll need a code system", yes.
i bet if you're on the leaderboard when all the clips are released, it unlocks a special menu for you and you get to play Contra. that'd be awesome.
·3· TOP 30 xD...I need more glyphs...
I've really been enjoying the game, but I have to say, this phase is just not good for anyone's enthusiasm.
We get a heads up on hansoexposed that another fragment has been released, so we all start searching through the sites on an absolutely fruitless hunt, thinking that we have clues from Manny or Wally that we need to decipher.
Then 12 hours later, Lost Ninja just happens to be strolling past a glyph posted on a pole? C'mon now. I'm willing to suspend disbelief to a pretty great extent, but Rachel jumped a plane to Australia after Comic Con just to post a flyer???? And the in-game Australian blogger is the one that finds it?
I guess that leaves the 12000 rest of us just sitting back and waiting for Speaker and Lost Ninja to just happen to stumble across a glyph in their Cheerios.
*sigh*
oxillini said...
i bet if you're on the leaderboard when all the clips are released, it unlocks a special menu for you and you get to play Contra. that'd be awesome.
Contra!!!! Do you think a glyph code is in the Konami code? Maybe if you entire it you get 30 new codes...check out this for Old NES Games including Contra!!!
Dazzedelf said...
I don't think they thought through how to release 70 glyphs/codes into the wild very well. Rachel said to scour the internet...
She didn't really say that. She said she had hidden clips everywhere the web, and glyphs would find their way to a trusted few. I think we've now figured out who the trusted few are...but yeah...too easy, and too frustrating if you ask me. I want some cryptic clue that will lead us to like ABC.com and then we have to actually look for the glyph. I do not like the OH there it is aspect of this whole phase.
I agree with all that has been said. This glyph stuff is getting really boring and there's still 55 GLYPHS LEFT! Come on, we're already ultra bored! Why can't they release like 20 a time and encrypt them or something like that?
thrasher: oh yeah, if you enter the right code, rachel gets 30 lives! everyone who remembers the contra code, but has forgotten the combination to a lock, their social security number or a loved one's birthday please raise their hand.
Anyone think there is likely to be similar posters at the locations of those Manny statues? Okay I know the Oz one got moved, but perhaps at the site of the picture maybe?
Oh yeah and what's with that poster and those wristbands being "on the web"? I take it off the web is the new on the web.
Also I think if this goes on much longer Matt the Pale may explode, yes?
Fenris - Matt and I will both explode!!!
morning gents and ladies
how is everyone?
But Thrasher, what of the creation Matrix? You'll have to pass it on to Ultra Magnutts or something, yes?
scott: the problem is we're not getting real world clues.
Yesterday I suggested that someone local to the statues in Mandrake Wig's flickr album go and check them out for codes, but it doesn't look like anyone has yet.
scott, I think some people were suggesting that geo-caching would be an interesting aspect of the game, but I don't remeber there being a "mass outcry". I enjoyed the way the clues were being posted in the other phases, requiring a bit of detective and team work on our parts ... this is just silly. As someone mentioned above, it's a matter of who has the most free time to check the usually IG sites.
oxillini is right...so far WE have not gotten real world clues. Some at ComicCon did, but didn't know it at the time. Ninja has gotten a real world clue too, but the collective WE have not. And although it woul dbe cool if Manny's pics led to clues, I'm not going to hold my breath!
There's clues in Oz? are prisoners playing along. Thrasher, you in the slammer?
Morning all. Agree with most of you that this glyph thing is getting tired. I wake up in the morning and add whatever's been found and I think we basically know what's on this video already. The dribbling of these fragments are so tiresome.
I'm having trouble logging in on HE this morning. Can't get past the login box. Anyone else?
Good morning, all!
In case anyone is interested, I finished the Hatch jigsaw puzzle last night. I'll have some photos tonight that I can share. I couldn't get any good photos of the back because of the glow-in-the-dark, but it's part of the blast door map, featuring the arrow station. I compared the notes that I took to a photo of the map from Lostpedia, and it looks like the puzzle version has extra notations.
****possible spoilers****
Here's what I saw that looked new:
Arrow Station
Primary function
restocking and staging area for DIHG
hub of DIHG
road system or other major route of overland travel?
suspected shutdown date 10-28-84
final destination in case of code 42?
possible terminal for subterranean EFP tunnel network
I'm not sure if all that is new, or if I just didn't see it, but there you go. There's also a long string of numbers like tapdawg found on his puzzle, but I was too tired to keep re-glowing the puzzle enough to write them all down. If anyone wants to see it, I can try again tonight.
Thraser.....Sorry so slow but.....If I remember correctly the code for a bunch of extra lives on Konami games is up up down down left right left right A B A Start. I tried doing I on my computer but Rachels lives didn't increase....LOL
Tried logging in again. Finally worked! Wow, over 13,000!
Just wondering if anyone has tried to figure out the glyph symbols or decode the fragment names. I put a few names in a decoder but probably not enough to find out anything.
melissa: awesome info! and thanks for marking the spoiler.
I've had a closer look at the exact times fragments were released and found and my theory is this:
First came the wristbands and Rachels appearance at comiccon, so people were introduced/alerted to Phase 3.
Folks figured out the first two fragments (on HE) but it was too late for the wristbands, so between 6 and 12 hours later Speaker and Ninja put them on the web.
Then Rachel gave us one, followed by the one found (?) by the elusive catseye (in France?). No one else found it or shared it, so again Ninja jumped in and gave it to us after having been prompted by a blogger.
The next one came from Speaker c. 7 hrs after release (had it been out there somewhere?)
Then came two from Britain - the EW one was found within minutes, Channel 4 within less than 2 hrs.
The next two from DJ Dan and Rachel herself were found within 5 minutes.
#15 came at 23.51 GMT on the 26th (mid-day in AUS) but still had not been found about 12 hrs later - which is when Ninja stepped in.
My guess is that TPTB put them out there - God knows where - on the web and in the real world and if we haven't figured it out 6-12 hrs later, they spoonfeed them to us. We are just too dumb... or are we? Please listen PTB, if you put them out in the real world you're gonna have to give us a hint or two that a relatively intelligent person can figure out (or our 12,000 strong collective brain at least). Otherwise I might as well go down to the village shop here in the West of Ireland and check cereal packets for fragments, or maybe dog got it tatooed onto her belly last night...? Seriously, it's like going on a scavenger hunt, going in f****** circles, arriving back at base only to be handed the spoils. Here you are! The answer was right here all along but I wasn't gonna give it to you until now!
andrew its b a b a start not a b a thats the self-destruct sequence.....i think you just killed rachel bro. OMG Andrew is a hanso mole!!!!!
martin_cc said...
But with only 12000 people playing the game and a glyph being able to appear in any random place? They would never get found.
Well, how many people played I Love Bees? That game had players running around answering payphones at specific coordinates, and a code was not activated until a certain number of phones were answered to make an area "hot". It would be great if Manny's pictures actually led to clues in the real world, I just don't think they want them to!
*Hi Maven!*
andrew, I couldn't remembering having pressed START on the controller after the sequence, so I Wiki'd it, and believe it or not, there's an *entry* for the damn thing ... Konami Code . Looks like start wasn't a necessity.
ahhhhh, memories
godd bless wiki. source of all knowledge that is truly important.
Good going, Melissa! Thanks.
Fenris said...
But Thrasher, what of the creation Matrix? You'll have to pass it on to Ultra Magnutts or something, yes?
I think I will pass it on to Springer instead of Ultra Magnus...
oxillini said...
There's clues in Oz? are prisoners playing along. Thrasher, you in the slammer?
No I am not in Jail! Never even been arrested, yet?????
Andrew - yes that is the code...why do I rememeber that but I will forget other things?
Melissa - I have a really good Blast Door Map here....
Why are you arguing about Konami codes? Just get the game genie!! :)
scott...
Steinbeck
Narrim said...In Clue Number 83 Comments, 7/26/2006 10:18:43 PM
Didn't see any during the commercials of the 10:00 EST hour. So, Jimmy Kimmel then?
I think when this is all over, we'll have a "LOST: The Experience" one to two hour episode covering the most apparent reveals over the summer ala Revelations or Reckoning, etc. But I'm even more certain that some of the ARG stuff will be used on the show, like maybe this HE Hanso Film, of (I'm guessing)
"The Sirius".
I can't wait to see what comes from this.
Can You explain what you mean by "The Sirius"?
(A google group discussion here
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.tv.lost/msg/bea1ce37e9c9e7be?dmode=source
read your post and REALLY would appreciate you comment or a clarification)
Thanks Narrim!!!
robc said... Cant they just release all of them at once, in hard to find places on the net, itd take days to find them all and we'd be clicking like crazy all over the jeep, sprite, etc sites.
That's how I originally thought this would play out. All 70 released at once, but very hard to find. Not "click on the speakers image" or "go to DJDan's links page." Some on the web, some in real life in the 3 different countries. Clues that are not found right away could be hinted at by Mandrake Wig, et al...
Hi, ange!
Checked out the posters on Ninja's site. Wow, they really can be anywhere! Gonna keep my eyes peeled. LOL
At least this down time between glyphs gives us time to come up with really interesting theories and speculations as more and more of this story is making sense. Jamaster and I have been working on a Lost Grand Theory. It's a work in progress and we welcome your input.
(P.S.: I really hate to self-promote, but this is really intended as a community project. There's also a message board for comments and discussion.)
woooo top 75...first time i ma up for this!!!
I was so proud of me to go to Ninja's first thing this am and FOUND IT! I was so proud, then i realized everyone else had too!
Oh well, I am improving!
Any thoughts on sequence yet...forgive me but I am currently READING all 73 post before mine...in a sec!
hey have yall gotten the 15th code yet?
It's odd really. The real world stuff seems to have been a bit badly thought out. Most of the people at the comicon had no idea to look for glyphs because the site had literally only just been launched. They combined a publicity stunt for launching the site (nice as it was to have Rach there live, that was what it essentially was) with the first whole batch of clues for said site. Okay, I get that they didn't want to miss the oppertunity for the clues, and getting Rach there was a must, but they should have launched the site earlier rather then putting the T-Shirt stunt.
Then there is this Poster ninja found. I mean did they just put a poster up at a random location somewhere on THE PLANET EARTH and then when no one found it (duhh) they sent ninja to pick it up. Okay, not the best plan.
The Manny photo's are a good plan, but it seems to have backfired as he apparently picked the three locations in their respective countries where no experience players live. I mean I could hop on a train to Oxford, but I can't really afford the time or the money right now. Maybe by next weekend but I have a feeling they will have given up on that by then.
I mean I suspect there isn't actually anything there anyway. Also I had a vision of a newspaper article saying "man breaks back falling off shark. Was said to be looking for a "Glyph"." yes?
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Thanks, Thrasher! That map seems a little more complete than the one at Lostpedia. Looking at it though, I still see some things that were on the puzzle that were not on the map:
****possible spoilers****
Primary function
restocking and staging area for DIHG
hub of DIHG
final destination in case of code 42?
possible terminal for subterranean EFP tunnel network
Also, the numbers were above the other info - judging by your map, they would be off the area shown. I'm guessing that if you get all four puzzles and put them together, you'll get the full map. The image on this one only covers the left side.
The front was cool, but didn't really show anything that we didn't already know about, I don't think.
Nvermind I am stupid. All these numbers and letters and such are confusing me.
oxillini: Curse you for bringing Contra into this and...
thrasher: curse you for giving me that NES emulator link!
Don't you two realize what you've done! You have made it nigh impossible for me to get any work done now!
I can see it now, I will say to myself "hmmm... no new fragment released yet, I think I'll just play one of them games..." and 2 months later I'll come out of my game coma state to discover no job, my wife has left me, and what! The ARG is over?!?!!? NOOO!!!
Okay... now that I have that off my chest, g'morning all!
pedalin: so you don't want me to bring up ikari warriors then?
Good Morning all. Pendalin Dad, your too funny....
This is rather easy, but hang in their...Let's see if they give us more...
Pedalin Dad said...
oxillini: Curse you for bringing Contra into this and...
thrasher: curse you for giving me that NES emulator link!
I AIM to please!!!
Well, I'm glad of this lameness of the game right now. I leave for vacation tomorrow to the east coast (US) for a week. When I get back, hopefully you guys will still be getting spoon-fed these glyphs so I won't be missing much...
J/K...
I am agreeing with just about everything said...I wish in many ways it were more like before BUT am glad it isn't. The Jim/pams (ME) of the world couldn't play along!!! We could only sit there and wait for you super geniouses to feed it to us. So, this is a little like what you are feeling, that is why! It is our turn to have a chance to be first.
That said, I am disapointed that the glyphs themselves to not lead tot he next glyph...that would have been the best way to play! I spent about 8.5 hours after the first three glyphs desperately looking for the pattern that lead to the next glyph only to have it spoonfed again and NO CONNECTION to the other three! I thought for sure even Jim and Pam working together could figure that out! Thanks a lot to TPTB for not giving us at least that much of a treasure hunt!
The real challenge is in making the HE site work properly! For example....Quit losing my clips! and when I put them in MY order, let them play...do not replace with static! Also, if I put them in the timeline, leave them there and do not keep telling me they are undefined or I will define your.....uh sorry! (Things I shouted at HE not intended to upset anyone else)
see ya later all!
jamaster - I did find it a little strange that they would add things to that map. Maybe it was just hard for people to get the whole map from the show.
**** definate spoiler****
Could you tell who that was in the picture of the hatch from the finale? That was the only thing that I thought might be a clue to season three.
our best bet is to see if ninja will actually put the glyph back into place like he said... we'll need all out ausie mates to check out Graythwaite Park and St. Francis
shakey, the game was planned from the beginning.... the producers knew about rachel going to comic con since april-may... they just didn't plan thoroughly.
Has this been discussed or just overlooked?
The newest Dharma Logo on Mr beady's Video...the circle with a smaller attached circle inside the Octagon insignia
Any ideas what it signifies?
to "prove" it was actually "up"
Ninja said:
"Check it out - someone else is making a stand! I took a photo (check out the Harbour Bridge behind!) and decided to take the flyer with me, so I could get it to you guys (I'll put it back tomorrow.)"
jamaster: the UN did commission Valenzetti's famous equation specifically due to the Cuban Missile Crisis. this was already canon, not speculation, before this fragment.
i think the equation itself is about to be revealed.
sean the equation will deal with the numbers...
yes, ular, yes.
It would have been a whole lot cooler if ninja had posted this:
"Hey guys I was strolling along Northern Sydney today... right around This and That place. While I was walking around I honestly think I found a glyh... but i didn't want to take the sign down becuase I wanted to keep the truth being spreaded....Can some of my faithful ninja students find that spot and take pictures for me. Thanks!"
Is anyone planning to join LostNinja's flyer campaign and post copies of the paper all over?
thin blue...I wondered that myself...any ideas?
I see it as a WORLD icon maybe...like the new world (smaller globe) outside the old world (larger globe)
any thoughts?
ular, he stated in the comments it means nothing and was just a lag alleviation post.
engineer, I printed out some copies and will post them up around my college.
martin, i think if we post it up around they might realize we'll go around searching for glyphs...
i think what makes it boring is that we aren't really progressing in the story...
before when rachel posted we would be furthering in her story and her progress...
Now we just get clips about 2-5 seconds long that shw us precious little more about what's going on and thus we are bored.
sean, martin: we will never see the real equation for three reasons. 1) it doesn't exist, it cannot possibly exist 2) if they made one up, tptb know the intelligent fanbase would tear it apart 3) if the want to preserve the reality of the arg, releasing it would give knowledge of the "date of armageddon" to anyone who could solve it, causing worse things than what thf is doing.
maybe it's a way to gauge how well the "real-world" aspect of the game would work... how many people would actually go outside and find a glyph posted in the physical world...
exactly NitesEa... i say we flood ninja's mailbox with pictures that we post up around the globe.
yep, flood Ninja's inbox! Real posters, in real locations... spread the word!
No, I didn't mean to sound rude at all, I'm sorry if I did Ular. I'm just saying that we should go around and do as ninja said... what harm could it do? If anything it might let them know we'll be willing to go places to find these glyphs. Once again I'm sorry if I was rude to you or if I offended you in any way.
tapdawg...okay, I will post as many as I can around MT Tech in Butte, MT...no too sure just how many play around here, but I guess we will see, huh?
only read the first half of the post but agree with the general sentiment that is phase is not as fun. the first waas involved hacks, and the second was hidden videos. Some thought and cleverness had to go into that phase. This phase does not involve any thought whatsoever. It is just an accident of timing. who happens to be the first to refresh the IG pages. Is it me or is the game progressively being dumbed down?
Yeah, I have not been the first to figure out the previous clues and hacks but I reveled in other's intelligence and ingenuity.
michaelp: It's an aspect of all of us working together. You can save that URL on your clipboard and post it to a blog or chat group like this one. It saves you the labor of writing all the glyph codes in the order you think they go.
That's also the theory behind the "send" link -- you can email that URL to anyone.
RachelB wants us to stick together -- like velcro.
tapdawg, I totally agree :)
BTW, did you see taht the Ninja linked to your blog in the post before he used pics from it?
noble: i agree with the sense that this has moved closer to the "lowest common denomintor" standard for clues. heck, even i can hit f5 a lot. how hard is that?
Micahel,
I think that is a good idea and will probably be useful for those of us that are unsure of placement of glyphs.
Heather,
Great! Make sure to take pictures and send them to ninja!
P.S. does anyone know his eail address?
I did lavenda.... i just thought it was funny that he didn't use my photos on the one he linked it too and when he did use them he didnt link to it.... hahaha IRONY!
Okay, I understand the frustration folks are feeling for how these glyphs are being presented. I am/was still half hoping they were spoonfeeding the first few so we could catch on and then start making them more of a challenge, but we have found a fifth of the fragments already... so TPTB, if you are lurking, We understand how it works!!! Start making it interesting again! ;)
That said, we are a fifth of the way through, so this can only drag on another couple of weeks, right? Wait, what am I saying? Not two more weeks of this please!!!!
lilblonde,
the systems very fickle... and buggy... sometime if it is mad it'll just turn red and say undefined... when it does that i usually will enter the code for the frag again and it fixes itself.
alrighty i gotta get ready for work then head to work... I'll psot a picture on here and at ninja and speakers emails tonight of the posters i'll be putting up.
Ok...
I think I've fitted the new clip into my sequence.... take a look.
http://hansoexposed.com/player/53f9d773c8fd07083f815b2bf01bc0de
I do think that this phase would be better if we could find glyphs and piece together the Sri Lanka video while simultaneously keeping tabs on Rachel's progress around the world. But I have a feeling that would be logistically and narratively way to complex to manage for TPTB.
Just keep telling yourselves that the payoff will be worth it, and meanwhile watch some season 1 DVDs.
wyldfire it looks pretty good... thanks for seperating where there will be new clips!
okay really gone now
wyldfire: pretty good, but I think the frame with the DHARMA text should be later, after the clip of the island.
rachymc: could you snap a picture of it and upload it somewhere for folks to see?
Or anyone else? It would be neat if this were a clue... not holding breath, but given the slowness right now, I'm curious.
On a separate thread of thought... something mentioned earlier today/yesterday about stuff from here in the ARG making it into season 3 started me wondering...
Now, let me make clear, I am just throwing this out there, but do not want to start another spoiler bomb conversation like i accidentally got into yesterday (I swear it was the boredom that blinded me)...
I was thinking that the "Beardy Hanso/Not Hanso Dharma guy" orientation video can easily be discovered/shown early in season 3. Without discussing how Season 2 ended, this makes the most sense to me since this film is from 1975, and one can imagine that it would give our losties a greater understanding of the hatches and their prior inhabitants, etc.
Yes, I realize this is a "Captain Obvious" statement for many of you, but c'mon, it's a slow day! Anyhow, I think this is the easiest connection for the writers to make in season 3, and though the idea of Rachel eventually getting on the island would be neat, I don't think that as likely... but this is just me thinking outloud...
Do you guys really think this is a bug?
Let me explain...when I placed my clips in sequence that I think is correct I then go to view my sequence to see how it plays together. At certain points in my spliced video it goes to the test (fuzzy) picture instead of what i have there. So, I restarted my browser like so many suggest, and when i return 4 of the clips are in my storage tray and only the ones that played correctly are in the timeline withblanks where the "fuzzy" test shots were.
My order is NOW like this using #1-#15 slots on the timeline...
#1-4HO
#2-748L
#3-OHGE
#4-blank
#5-GMX18BCJ
#6-blank
#7-88CH
#8-7HKBH
#9-blank
#10-blank
#11-3GTVI0M11
#12-RRGYXS
#13-FVH7N
#14-IG3X
#15-VDADOS7YREO
My question is, is this a bug or a helpful hint???
Please tell me I am not the only one experiencing it this way!
Now...I know some of you think it is not really worth trying to figure out the sequence just yet but I refuse to wait until the 60th clip, that would be NUTS!
Umm... new frag released? Can someone double check or am i reading the stats wrong?
Hey everyone, I just scanned the comments to see if anyone said this yet and I couldn't find it, so here I go...
You'll notice that many of the clips start with a very quick, one-frame shot of something else (many of which are a shot of Mr. Beardy's face, either close up or far away, and then other video footage of something else, like the UN security council shot, for example). The key to putting these videos in order is recognzing these quick initial frames to many of the videos. AND, thanks to them, it is clear that the newest video (M6XY398) of Mr. Beardy talking about "After the Cuban Missle Crisis..." follows DIRECTLY after the video clip discussing the cold war between the US and the Soviet Union (XIGZ2Y10S2). The reason we know this for sure is because at the end of the cold war clip, a plane takes off into the sky showing the blue sky in the background; when you start up the clip with Mr. Beardy discussing the cuban missle crisis, the first frame is a single shot of that EXACT sky, hence they are back-to-back clips.
As always, don't hate me if I'm repeating something that is blatantly obvious to everyone. Thanks! :-)
-CJ
kylelane: the cuban misslie crisis lead the UN to commission the Valenzetti equation. he presented this to the UN, Hanso was in the audience. this has been revealed, so it's not a theory.
16 has been released.
pedalin: jess4ua is right, there's another frag on the wild:
fragment released="1154018044"/>
Release the hounds!!!
i looked all over my cubicle, no glyphs here!
Heather-
Read the last 10 posts from the previous thread--I had the same problem too. It's just another bug, unfortunately.
lostnuts, that the time stamp for its release, not the code itself.
Tha's funny martin cc. I was thinking of dropping a note to Speaker to just email it to me after it appears in his ham and cheese sandwich. It would really save me a lot of trouble hitting f5 on his blog.
lost,,,but that code does not work for me!
heather: see my post to lostnuts. that is not the code, just the notification that another code is ready to be taken.
Still hasn't been found folks! Keep looking!
absolutely, void. everytime i get a new clip, i spend a good amount of time going back over the entire sequence and seeing if the order changes dramatically now that I have a new clip...when we get to something like 50 clips, it will definitely be worth it...
If TPTB wanted ot make this good by brining in the real world,they could look at those taht have signed and see if they can find where thoses people are on Frappr. Then put clues/posters in those cities where several registered players live, and RB can then send e-mails with clues to the players living in those cities.
lhorse - pretty old letter now.
and it is about a week old. Changed the same day they changed the password to Steinbeck
i checked all the MAJOR sites...nothing....wait 12 hours...then we will have it! UGH!!!
lost, sorry...didn't know that!
Anyone else having trouble with blogger?
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Finally checking in this morning. (It's still morning in AZ) Just want to say ditto to all the comments about how boring the game is right now. You know it's boring when someone as computer illiterate as me can find the glyphs w/o problem or challenge. At least it allows me time to catch up on all the To Do list things I've ignored the past few weeks. haha
HE.com still says only 15 released for me too...
At http://www.garytroup.net/links.php - has there always been a clickable link to THF.org?
If not, maybe we have to go back there.
ah, now it says 16
I can't find any of these glyphs! Plus, then when we get them and I add them to my list of found they all end up being red squares! This is VERY frustrating!!!! AGH!
I got 16 released when i signed in also
Belly- very well said. I agree.
Ular and Nitesea- HE.com says 16 released when I login.
Belly: Yeah I'm little bit disapointed, just because we don't really discover the glyphs. We are waiting for them. The intriguing question is why the video parts are released in the measure that we found it. Yes I loved the poster in Australia and it give me hope about this game, and the sentence that Speaker post on his blog is truly inspiring and mysterious. What i like is to research, to look into the bottom of it for clues for answers.
cheers
Afternoon all.
scoutpost said:
At least it allows me time to catch up on all the To Do list things I've ignored the past few weeks. haha
Maybe they slowed it down on purpose party for that reason? They don't want their fans fired over TLE?
Also I like being able to examine a few clips at a time and think more deeply about theory. If this is the equivelant of a musical bridge to the next verse, a change in tempo is appropriate.
It's more fun when it's faster and we have more to do but maybe it also isn't as good for us?
belly0fdesire said... The new letter from Wally was released on the 23rd I think, and I don't believe it's served any purpose yet. Does the logon code still work for anyone at RoT?
I just check the ROT code, and it still works, but there is no new info. The password IS case-sensitve, so make sure you use "Steinbeck" and not "steinbeck".
OT-
Thrasher every time I F5 I see your "First! Cheater!" comment and I have to laugh.
Let's try this again. I'd like comments, if people have time.
Clicky..
arichards said:
At least there is no static inbetween. I view the static as a sign that you have something out of order. Anyone agree?
I've been examining this too. It seems so but there is more than one order that it accepts without static.
who has all the glyphs saved on one page so you can see them all side by side? or maybe two or more pages will be better?
ANYONE? I really feel there is a clue there, just think the forst 15 are a clue to the next 55....any thoughts?
*grasping*
Marin- funny pic! Of course some desperate ARG player will probably stumble across it and think it a legit glyph- lol
Has anyone noticed that GidgetGirl still has a Blogger profile?
I wonder how many other dead people have active Blogger accounts?
sorry *Martin* (not Marin)
kyle...i agree with your sequence as it is excpet for one little bit, "the one true way" sounds like a closeing statement...and the UN part seems to come after the secret part he speaks of...but again, we have little to go on so I think yours is as good as anyones!
.02 again
love the pic marvin and I think Scout is right...you just started a whole new FALSE glyph blog...HA HA HA HA
All the glpyhs we've seen pics for are available here, though not all together and probably not as big as they should be for us to examine them closer. Perhaps someone with oodles of free time could put together a page with all of them on it...
bac187 has found fragment #16
Squirrel-
Sorry, mate, I live in Little Rock, Ar. But I knew a girl from England in college, does that count?
Someone's found the 16th one - bac187?
kyle: Some of us have also experimented with putting parts of Mittleworks speak before the video (the ones looking through the horizontal hole) before the Dharma video and parts after (with the vertical peep hole). Also there has been discussion about whether or not there are two videos being shown, one on a laptop and one on the TV Mittlwork uses the remote for.
Looks like it's 3ZGT
http://hansoexposedfragments.com/
According to the timestamp it was found about an hour ago. Anybody know bac187?
"the precise location of the facility is known only to myself..."
Interesting, Twinkle. I was wondering about the two different perspectives from the surveillance camera, and how that might bear on the order of the fragments.
Heather's brain, I was thinking that Beardy was building towards the big reveal of "the one true way," and that the historical exposition served to tease his audience.
yup... goes right before 1ey8azczna2 in the sequence
according to hasoexposedfragments.com, it was found on the Fuselage Diary
OH GEEZ, another place to look? Would help to get a clue...I am working on getting the glyphs together on one page but only have 11 myself...i will keep looking and when I get it done I will post on my blog.
This one was an easy one to place.
Clicky, again.
New fragment inserted-
http://hansoexposed.com/player/d9d72222d91b4c133f4b1c258c889276
P.S. - my training is in video editing, so I'm trying to jump on getting vids sequenced as soon as possible- my eyes are trained to look for sequences all day anyway.
heather: lostpedia has a gallery of the known glyphs. good place to start if you're gathering info on 'em.
Here is #16
http://www.thefuselage.com/Egg/Diary/diary.html
so I guess it's an Easter egg planted by speaker?
wyldfire, I like your placement of rrgyxs (we all know that the one true way has been found). I was just thinking it might work better over there.
BTW... I've uploaded a pic of the glyph to my flickr site:
http://static.flickr.com/70/199710329_5ae96c8c86_o.gif
I keep thinking the glyphs themselves may mean something.
Sorry, I was out to lunch when the new code was found. The Main page has been updated for those that don't have it yet.
Still working on the order, but this new one goes before, "the degroot's" one...
Peace & Namaste
wv = OCDTM Obsesive Compulsive Disorder Thomas Mittlewerk!
click on Heather's Brain BLOG to see the compilation of glyphs I have put together...#16 not there YET!
roomforhuman: Dharma is a philosophical parallel to "shen tao," or the way of spirits...otherwise known as Shinto. Not without deeper meaning is the connection to John 14.6: "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." Many gnostic scholars think Jesus could have met a Buddhist sect in his travels through the Eastern desert.
I realize now that's quite a whammy of a response for a very short little comment from you. Sorry! It's my field, I get carried away.
Maybe the codes posted here should come with a *spoiler* warning, or on a seperate page. Hm?
why a spoiler for the codes? Isn't that point of us being here, to help eachother find them asap???
I noticed the HE.com user count is 13,542!
Anyone want to make some guesses on how high this number gets by the time Glyph #70 is found?
13542 user so far / 16 clues = 846 users per clue x 70 clues = 59,220 users?
Probably not that many... maybe 30,000?
Yeeeeeello!
I agree with heather.
by the way, incase you missed it, I now have ALL of the visual glyphs on my blog...the first bloo today shows 11/15 glyphs...the second today shows TODAY'S glyph...the third is a link to Matt the Pale's list of all glyphs so you can see where and how they were found incase that is relavent to the glyph clues. MPO, I think it is all relavent as the guys say, every detail has meaning!!
The blank screens just mean there's an empty frame in your ordering. I don't think we have 16 consecutive clips yet, so there will by definition be some gaps. The only difference is whether you as the user string all the clips together for ease of organization, or if you try to estimate their place in the final lineup of 70.
biotronx
It has not been found apparently.
It's not on
http://members.aol.com/mattthepale/fragments.html
oodles? Matt has all 16 listed there, was that what you were saying???
heather-
Thanks for compiling all the glyphs... I've been doing some Googling, and the only thing I came across so far that seems like it could be relevant to some of the glyphs is this page... http://www.sacred-texts.com/atl/ssm/ssm09.htm
Towards the end it has some glyphs that look like ones we've seen, like the swirly-looking "e" from the first glyph and a rectangle that looks like part of one of the others... They stand for letters, as well as symbols of objects or concepts. Not sure what this could mean yet, but it's a place to start!
I saw the direct link for the new frag on The Fuselage, but was wondering if anyone knew how to navigate to it from the Fuselage homepage. I don't recall a forum titled "Egg", but then again, when I was active on there, it was just in the Spoilers section :)
nitesea...I must get going, it is Evil Kneval Days here and the kids really wnat to go, but I did want to say thanks for the info, I will check it out tonight!
Heather's Brain is OUTTA HERE!
Nevermind, found it.
There is a little picture of a diary on the right side of the forums page ... click and navigate from there.
bio...thank you...updated!
by the way, you can leave a comment there too, now really I AM OUTTA HERE!
i STEP AWAY FOR ONE HOUR!
I can't find this "diary" on the fuselage page
noble, if you haven't already created an account at the Fuselage, do so, otherwise you can't view the diary.
Once you have created a username and logged into the Threaded Board, scroll down, looking at the right side of the page, and under all the icon advertisements for the DVDs and books, you will see a "legal pad" icon with the word DIARY written across it ... click that and it will bring you right to the glyph.
Anyone here on the Shockwave.com newsletter/email list?
While we were hunting for fragment #16, I got this week's shockwave email whose subject read:
Use your puzzle magic to save a planet in Glyph
...So of course I wasted much of my search time on the shockwave site looking for clues.
Sigh... oh well...
I'm starting to agree with the theory that the blank screen/staticy screen indicates your frags are in the wrong order, but has anyone experienced where the player just skips a clip?? Because that keeps happening to me.
trouble with saving sequences on HE.com:
I was having trouble but figured a way to have it save my 16 frags in the order I want...
basically I drag each frag into a storage space and then drag it back into where I want it saved... did this for all 16 and then hit save... when the link pops up for the saved sequence, I clicked on it, and hit continue on the new screen, and it loads my sequence properly (you can verify that all your frags are there via the x/16 thingy)...
It's a pain to do, but once I started doing that, no problems...
I really don't think the static screen means anything about the order of the fragments. I changed the order of my fragments (see above) and I didn't get any static screens. When you put your fragments in order (in other words, take them out of storage), if you put them all next to each other, you won't get any static screens. If someone still gets static screens after they have placed their fragments in this way, then please say so. Otherwise, I think they just mean that there's an empty frame in your organization.
And the HE.com site is really buggy. I've had to re-order and re-save my clips a couple times to get the save to "take."
found it.
I agree with kyle regarding the static screens... HE is just unstable especially with the number of users logging in and saving sequences... for a while I thought it was saving someone else's sequences in mine's stead.
kyle:
you said:
[i]if you put them all next to each other, you won't get any static screens. If someone still gets static screens after they have placed their fragments in this way, then please say so.[/i]
So.
I have them all together but in view I only get 14 and 2 skips in between.
we've discussed the clip-skipping several times here... it's just a bug on the HE site. People (myself included) have saved the sequence and had it skip over clips once, then go back and put them in the same order and save and it works. There doesn't seem to be any significance to the skipping...
Need to ask this again:
At http://www.garytroup.net/links.php - has there always been a clickable link to THF.org?
I was over the site with a fine comb yesterday after Speakers rambles and I don't remember it. Anyone?
oodles: Now go back to your page on HE.com, and see if there are two clips that somehow got booted back to Storage. Put them back where they were. Hit save. Once you've hit save, click on the link to view your complete clip. If you don't have __ out of 16 loading, then you know the save didn't take. Close that window, hit save again, and repeat. If they still don't take, save it and then send it to yourself. THAT link should finally have all 16.
This is what it was doing to me. I didn't change the order, I just had to re-save a ton of times and then all 16 fragments stuck.
i posted the poster up at my school today I'll upload pics later today... im at work right now!
I've found that in order to get all 16 fragements saved this works:
Drag them all to storage and then back down again. Then hit save. I've tried this a couple of times and it always works.
i don't think there's any special trick that you need to do in order to save them. It all depends on the amount of users online at the time you try to save and the servers... if theres too many users on then it gets slow and buggy and won't save.
think of it this way.
There's 13,000 of us... each with 15 clips...
that's close to 200,000 clips it needs to save... that's alot of information.
*cough* 210,000 *cough*...
Woo hoo! I'm going to call myself "this Kyle guy" from now on.
So here we sit waiting to get spoon fed our net glyph instead of being handed a clue that will lead us there...
This is what gets me salty....this is boring and not fun...
I agree with Belly and many others that I have really enjoyed this game and still think it is a ton of fun...but this is kind of boring...we have not even seen that many of "us" on the leader board...and there are thousands of "us"...
Sorry for my Rant!
Like the new Avitar? I am on the fence with it.....
im in LA i will go any and anywhere in LA to find it.
my verification word: evoil
*how popeye says evil*
Nope I like the old one better, this one is too small....sorry for wasting space here!
Static test screens and the HE Timeline:
I've been researching this and listening to people's comments. I don't have it figured out but here's what I do know.
You can put all the clips on the timeline next to each other, go to view, and then some of your clips get replaced by the test screen.
You can then change your order until all the clips will play in View and none are replaced by a test screen.
There is more than one order that plays all the clips with none being replaced by the test screen. It would require more fiddling than I have time for to figure out what calculation is driving when it skips one and when it plays them all.
As for skipping a clip without replacing it with a test screen or skipping around the clips, I don't have enough data yet.
thx kyle
I did a bit of reordering and now get 16/16 - not sure if it's due to reordering, saving, or luck.
so do we think there's any significance to the order in which these pieces are released? If you looked at the xml when the most recent glyph was released, it wasn't the 16th in the list, it was 15th... could that mean something or am I just stretching for something in the boring downtime between glyph releases?
Thrasher- definitely the blue one (sorry I forget his name)
nitesea,
was wondering about that as well - last night (GMT) #15 and #16 were released but one of them was taken down again, probably the one that was put back as #15 today. Might have just been an error (released too early).
I hate to repeat myself, but I will anyway..........Put all of the clips into storage and then drag them all down again. Hit Save. It will save all 16. It also dosen't matter which order they are in. I put them all out of order purposefully and played them in view mode. It played all 16 with no test screen skips.
Belly - I love the video fragments it is really adding to the story...my biggest gripe is not having to do anything to get them except wait...I am not bailing on this thing, not now...I would post my order but it is the same as "this Kyle guys" order...so, meh...
Scoutpost - His name is Optimus Prime!!! lol
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