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Clue #85 - Fragment Code "ZY6C"

Fragment code "ZY6C" has been found over at Speakers Blog. Navigate your way to his Week 3 Roundup and click on the infamous "Hole2" image and you'll see the newest glyph. Plug in the code at hansoexposed.com to see the latest fragment which contains screen text reading "DHARMA ORIENTATION".

*Check out Matt the Pale's summary of all the found fragment codes at...Matt the Pale's HansoExposed Video Fragment Code List

Thanks to Sean and Marigumi for being the first to email us.

268 Comments:

Blogger Young Wallace said...

first?

7/28/2006 11:57:00 AM  
Blogger Young Wallace said...

That's what I'm talkin about!

7/28/2006 11:57:00 AM  
Blogger Perminisconious said...

A new glyph has been released, and nobody's found it yet. =(

Also, is MTP's site down?

7/28/2006 11:59:00 AM  
Blogger Awkward Turtle said...

A new fragment has been released, let the hunt begin!

7/28/2006 12:00:00 PM  
Blogger dixxee said...

hmmm... wonder if MTP's site has something to do with the release... Matt where are you??

7/28/2006 12:01:00 PM  
Blogger Young Wallace said...

We updated the front page to notify about MattThePales page. Thanks guys!

7/28/2006 12:01:00 PM  
Blogger Scoutpost said...

Yeah top ten!

7/28/2006 12:03:00 PM  
Blogger Beana said...

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7/28/2006 12:07:00 PM  
Blogger Beana said...

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7/28/2006 12:07:00 PM  
Blogger Tom Mein, Guitarist said...

where did you find that iris?

7/28/2006 12:08:00 PM  
Blogger Scoutpost said...

Who could be the person in the middle who knows much more?

7/28/2006 12:11:00 PM  
Blogger Scoutpost said...

Actually it says "voice from the middle...." could be a podcast?

7/28/2006 12:13:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Morning: Is all of AOL down, or just Matt?

Belly: Thanks for that dreamy photo of Rodriq! (Don't tell my hubby. LOL) You guys get Elizabeth Mitchell. (A love interest for Jack?)

7/28/2006 12:15:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Hey, Jess: Basking in my trivia glory! LOL

Almost fell off my chair this morning reading the newspaper. A giant Verizon ad had a little box on the bottom with a picture in it! Could it be a glyph!?! Alas, nope, just a don't use cellphone while driving warning! Would be cool if they did go to newspapers, tho.

7/28/2006 12:26:00 PM  
Blogger Don't squeeze the Charmin said...

Javier Grillo-Marush's comic the middleman

http://www.vipercomics.com/features/the_middle_man_v02_tpb.asp

7/28/2006 12:35:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

yeah, chiefchick: There's a lot of things I miss from the good ole days of two months ago! :)

jess: You're on! See you later tonite!

WV: JIPON. LOL

7/28/2006 12:36:00 PM  
Blogger JB said...

Why is Middle capitalized? Could it stand for Mittlewerk or something else that is a proper noun and not just something in the middle?

7/28/2006 12:36:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

the glyph was found on one of the hole pictures on speaker's site.

7/28/2006 12:39:00 PM  
Blogger Gus and Pete's mom said...

zy6c

7/28/2006 12:39:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

ZY6C!!!!!!!

7/28/2006 12:39:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

he reveals his name.

word verification (I KID YOU NOT!!!)- axepoop

7/28/2006 12:42:00 PM  
Blogger Women on the Verge said...

where do you see the glyph?

7/28/2006 12:43:00 PM  
Blogger Beana said...

No he doesn't reveal his name.

Man what a tease!

It's just more of the opening music to the Orientation video! I'm dying over here!

7/28/2006 12:45:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

it was on the hole2 picture of speaker's 3rd weekly roundup.

7/28/2006 12:45:00 PM  
Blogger Gus and Pete's mom said...

So that's it. We wait all this time and that's all it is?

7/28/2006 12:45:00 PM  
Blogger Women on the Verge said...

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7/28/2006 12:47:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

This things is like a slow drip in a faucet. Water torture!

7/28/2006 12:48:00 PM  
Blogger Women on the Verge said...

martin, i can't figure out how it was found from the clue either!

7/28/2006 12:49:00 PM  
Blogger Scoutpost said...

Well since the glyph is a let down, lets go back to Sean's wv...axepoop. That is the funniest wv so far!

7/28/2006 12:49:00 PM  
Blogger Don't squeeze the Charmin said...

Direct link to the glyph:

http://blogs.abc.com/photos/uncategorized/zy6c.jpg

7/28/2006 12:50:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

excited about what?

7/28/2006 12:50:00 PM  
Blogger Women on the Verge said...

and eight moon of the monkey means?? joop?

7/28/2006 12:51:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

i havent seen it yet. i cant off this computer. i just heard on ITE that he reveals his name.
he doesnt?

7/28/2006 12:51:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Nice find Sean!

7/28/2006 12:52:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

i thought it was true. but to be honest, i really just wanted to use that wv before i reloaded the page.

7/28/2006 12:53:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

thanks thrash.

7/28/2006 12:53:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

but, i wasnt really the first. we all spotted it at the same time.

7/28/2006 12:54:00 PM  
Blogger Women on the Verge said...

i just don't get it...

7/28/2006 12:54:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

he doesn't? im disappointed myself.

7/28/2006 12:54:00 PM  
Blogger Women on the Verge said...

okay... i drag the new frag down to watch it and it says "undefined" what the heck?

7/28/2006 12:57:00 PM  
Blogger Beana said...

They better release another fragment today. This so cannot be it for today. I mean, really!

7/28/2006 12:57:00 PM  
Blogger Scoutpost said...

Anybody else getting an "image not available" message now when you go to the glyph site? Is this because everyone was looking at it at the same time, or is something wrong with my computer now?

7/28/2006 12:59:00 PM  
Blogger Women on the Verge said...

that's it. im going to lunch. maybe some nutrition will help me wrap my brain around the monkey thing.

7/28/2006 12:59:00 PM  
Blogger SunBruise said...

http://hole4.thehansofoundation.org/

Is this old or new? I never seen this one.

7/28/2006 12:59:00 PM  
Blogger Women on the Verge said...

scout, i had to enter it 3 times before it worked!

7/28/2006 01:00:00 PM  
Blogger SunBruise said...

I've only seen Hole2 and Hole3.

7/28/2006 01:00:00 PM  
Blogger JB said...

This was posted on Speaker's blog so it answers HOW it was found at least. What the monkey and eighth moon have to do with it I still don't know.

Um, ok. Is this old or new? I was looking at the Middle Man comic, which led me to Javi's site, and on his links, I went to an official Javi community. Hidden at the bottom is this:

In Round-Up number three, click what's STILL a mystery.

Round up #3 is the one with Hole2, which I'm not sure ever got really solved? Any ideas? I tried just putting the hole2 file name as the glyph, but that doesn't work.

Posted by: KJ | July 28, 2006 at 10:28 AM

7/28/2006 01:02:00 PM  
Blogger Scoutpost said...

Thanks...glad to know it not just on my end.

7/28/2006 01:03:00 PM  
Blogger oxillini said...

ok, so the eighth moon of jupiter is lysithea (eighth moon of a monkey) interesting info from wiki:

Lysithea did not receive its present name until 1975; before then, it was simply known as Jupiter X. It was sometimes called "Demeter".

well, demeter was persephone's mother. also not the year the name changed, 1975. coincidence? who knows.

anyway, i don't see the conection to hole2 yet. anyone?

7/28/2006 01:04:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Belly, I think I put the wrong link in the main page on where to find the glyph...it was from the email we received...I can't find where it came from now....can you help and fix?

7/28/2006 01:10:00 PM  
Blogger dixxee said...

Thrasher, I go to that image and get the same results "Image not available" It is supposed to be the hole2 image in Weekly Round-up 3 on Speaker's blog.

7/28/2006 01:15:00 PM  
Blogger ColdUpHere said...

Even though you can't see the glyph the file name is zy6g.jpg

7/28/2006 01:17:00 PM  
Blogger dixxee said...

That is funny adelphiadella....

7/28/2006 01:23:00 PM  
Blogger ColdUpHere said...

OK, I like the clues instead of being spoonfed, and it was interesting to see the two different methods used to find the glyph.

Next frag please...no,really. I mean it. I'm not joking. I took off work today, and can devote my full attention. Frag? Anyone? Oops...I've started rambling.

7/28/2006 01:26:00 PM  
Blogger oxillini said...

ok, so i get the second line of his poem, since the hole 2 pic is the man in the middle (peter above hime, screen cap from kimmel below)

still not sure what the first line was supposed to mean. any ideas?

7/28/2006 01:27:00 PM  
Blogger The Alternative One said...

Did anyone get a screen capture of the glyph? All I get is "Image Not Available" message.

The Alternative One

7/28/2006 01:27:00 PM  
Blogger dixxee said...

Here is the link to the actual image per a post in speaker's blog: http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5037/3426/1600/zy6c.jpg

7/28/2006 01:27:00 PM  
Blogger dixxee said...

Ok.. well that did not work.. how do I make it a clickable link??

7/28/2006 01:29:00 PM  
Blogger ColdUpHere said...

Ox: This is courtesy of ixalon at ITE

The Date August 1980 was the clue. Middle Man comic site..to Javi's blog. In the Archive there was an entry from 1980. It had a riddle that led to thefuselage.com..which had an anagram that spelled javi minions dot com...which had the clue to the roundup about hole2.

7/28/2006 01:32:00 PM  
Blogger Skippy402 said...

The speaker who maintains the javiminions.com site is this guy:

http://speakerwiggin.livejournal.com/

He has The Fuselage as one of his links? Is this OUR speaker? Is this "in game"? Is this even relevant?

7/28/2006 01:34:00 PM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

I can't find the glyph. Ilooked at the hol2 link under speakers 3rd weekly roundup and it is juts the hold2 pic from before. :((

7/28/2006 01:36:00 PM  
Blogger oxillini said...

colduphere: thanks, at least i can see a logical path there. i like that much better than the explanation that someone knew javi wrote middle man comics. could our glyph tips be getting back to the phase 1 hints? i hope so. i would prefer these puzzles versus, "it's somewhere on the web, everyone search at random"

7/28/2006 01:37:00 PM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

yes mike, it says image not available

7/28/2006 01:41:00 PM  
Blogger Dennis said...

DIXXEE said... Ok.. well that did not work.. how do I make it a clickable link??

You need to add the HREF="" to the tag:

< a href="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5037/3426/1600/zy6c.jpg"> http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5037/3426/1600/zy6c.jpg < /a>

Or you can just have the link in the HREF part, and something else in the middle:

Click Here

7/28/2006 01:42:00 PM  
Blogger ColdUpHere said...

Ox: I agree. I'm OK if TPTB want to rotate the clues through Speaker, Ninja, and The Other Girl, and then let us solve their puzzles. I like the use of anagrams, and maybe they'll go back to using coded anagrams as well, with hex, binary, etc. Of course if they are lurking the can feel free to mail me a copy of the video on DVD. I promise I won't share....

7/28/2006 01:43:00 PM  
Blogger Twinkle said...

Thanks, Dennis!

OT:
So last night, TLEC comments and my 4 year old's Knock Knock jokes merged in my head. This morning I decided to make a blog out of it. So if anybody wants a laugh (or at least a groan) check out:
http://lostyourhumor.blogspot.com

Here's a sample if anybody wants to play along. How would you answer:
Why did Thomas Werner Mittlwork cross the road?

7/28/2006 01:43:00 PM  
Blogger oodles said...

Has anyone found the anagram at The Fuselage? There's "a single post" by Karri but I can't see the anagram
???

7/28/2006 01:44:00 PM  
Blogger dixxee said...

The New Glyph

7/28/2006 01:44:00 PM  
Blogger dixxee said...

Thanks Dennis... I found it and I think I have it now :)

7/28/2006 01:45:00 PM  
Blogger Don't squeeze the Charmin said...

http://www.insidetheexperience.com/2006/07/reader_mail_12.html
Eighth moon of the Monkey thrice before.
A voice from the Middle knows much more.

Author of Middleman comic is Javi Grillo-Marxuach which takes you to his blog - look back at the archive and you'll find an odd post from 1980... (I was expecting it to be one from Sept 2003 but his archive doesn't have any from 2003) posted at 8:15am:
http://chaodai.livejournal.com/56306.html?view=1910258

A single post here has the next rhyme.
The numbers will help you. Do you have the time?

Solution to that riddle is:
http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?p=815

You've come this far, don't give up now
Solve this anagram and you won't drown.
JIM VOMITS IN A CONDO

Solution to anagram is:
JAVI MINIONS DOT COM

Hidden at the bottom of http://www.javiminions.com/ is:
In Round-Up number three,
click what's STILL a mystery.

Go back to the speaker's blog and look at roundup for week 3:
http://www.insidetheexperience.com/2006/05/week_three_roun.html

Click on the image for the picture of the unknown man...
http://blogs.abc.com/photos/uncategorized/zy6c.jpg

7/28/2006 01:46:00 PM  
Blogger Christine said...

Mandrake is online at myspace!

7/28/2006 01:47:00 PM  
Blogger Dennis said...

Mandrake Wig updated his flicker account again with a minor change.

He renamed the "Gentelman" photo to "headless".

hmmm... I still don't think there's anything there... but why does he keep fiddling with these photos...

7/28/2006 01:48:00 PM  
Blogger ColdUpHere said...

Twinle...I like it.

7/28/2006 01:49:00 PM  
Blogger Twinkle said...

colduphere: Thanks. :-)

I'll check back later. I'd love to hear other people's jokes and answers. You can leave them in the comments on lostyourhumor.blogspot.com too.

Glad ya'll have a mystery to work on!

7/28/2006 01:55:00 PM  
Blogger ColdUpHere said...

Oodles. The archive post on Javi's blog provides a linke to the fuselage posts. The link to posts on that site is http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?p="post number". On Javi's blog he says the numbers will help you...DO YOU HAVE THE TIME. The time on his blog was 8:15 AM, so the link http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?p=815 takes you to the thread that has the anagram.

7/28/2006 01:56:00 PM  
Blogger Fenris said...

The buggyness of the main site in Act 3 is starting to really peeve me off. Almost every time I log in to load new fragments I've had random segments returned to my storage area for no readily apparent reason. You know what, I've officially given up trying to order these, because I'm tired of having to re-do it every day because of this bug. Bah.

7/28/2006 02:07:00 PM  
Blogger WickedM said...

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: WickedM
Date: Jul 25, 2006 12:43 PM

Look the new pix on flickr - I feel that way many days. Today especially. Started a new hobby, collecting these things called glyphs. In you varied travel you wouldn't have come across any new ones?

Thanks for the pix and any info!

----------Response-----------

Mandrake Wig

Date: Jul 28, 2006 2:23 PM Flag Subject: RE: New Pix
glyphs... there's really nothing I can say about that at this time.


------

We might want to keep this in mind for the future glyph searches.

7/28/2006 02:12:00 PM  
Blogger dixxee said...

mamkau: Heather's Brain has done a blog of those..

heather's brain

7/28/2006 02:12:00 PM  
Blogger oxillini said...

mmakau: lostpedia has most of them, not sure about the latest one tho.

7/28/2006 02:16:00 PM  
Blogger Fenris said...

I would totally have to AOL you on that one Ratman. Bored now. I was so bored yesterday I actually resorted to watching the new Pink Panther film and guess what, it was rubbish! So tonight I will have to find something actually good, or else just start another DJDan remix. Which reminds me, has it been two weeks yet?

7/28/2006 02:19:00 PM  
Blogger Dennis said...

mamakau said...

Does anyone know where I can find a collection of all the glyph images given to us so far?

The Gallery of Glyph images is here: http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Glyphs

(took a while to find...)

7/28/2006 02:25:00 PM  
Blogger WickedM said...

Fenris - I thought it would be 2 weeks from the 10th, well that passed on the 24th. Maybe he meant 2 weeks not counting that week, so hopefully there will be one on the 31st.

7/28/2006 02:26:00 PM  
Blogger ColdUpHere said...

I think two months from now, while we are all still here having spent hundreds of hours looking for glyphs, we will have the entire video. Someone will snag it off of he.com, and another will play it backwords. It will be 20 minutes of TPTB snickering, giggling, and saying , "nanny nanny boo boo...we got you to waste your summer...we got you to waste your summer...."

7/28/2006 02:31:00 PM  
Blogger NiteSea said...

aneilio76 said...
and I'm also absolutely sure that:

3zgt
unknown clip
1ey8azczna2

----
I really don't think there's a space between these two clips. If you play them one right after the other, they fit together perfectly.

7/28/2006 02:41:00 PM  
Blogger NiteSea said...

also, rrgyxs doesn't match up with the beginning of fvh7n ... I think something's missing between those two

7/28/2006 02:45:00 PM  
Blogger Miss Topisto said...

The new glyph doesn't work for me... It says "Image not available"...

7/28/2006 02:48:00 PM  
Blogger NiteSea said...

I was having the same problem, sophie. Lostpedia has an image of it tho.

7/28/2006 02:50:00 PM  
Blogger ColdUpHere said...

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7/28/2006 02:56:00 PM  
Blogger Miss Topisto said...

thx, nitesea :-)

7/28/2006 03:09:00 PM  
Blogger ColdUpHere said...

OK that was a bit long for the here. Here's a link with the poem, and the TLEA stuff.
Click Here

7/28/2006 03:10:00 PM  
Blogger Scoutpost said...

Louie1- don't feel bad about questions re: HE.com- everybody's having glitches.

aneilio76- ratman is being a little impatient....your order looks pretty good

For everybody who is putting frags together, if you haven't discovered yet, Matt the Pale has an order on his website that most people agree with, also BellyO had a similar order posted in comments yesterday....so the easiest thing to do is check with those sites when you want to get confirmation on your frag order. MTP's gets updated regularly.

7/28/2006 03:16:00 PM  
Blogger Scoutpost said...

Ok so it took me a long time to get my message posted...BellyO's order posted above. LOL

7/28/2006 03:17:00 PM  
Blogger Scoutpost said...

I can't remember Belly- I think maybe you guys just have one difference, but my memory may be completely wrong.

7/28/2006 03:22:00 PM  
Blogger ColdUpHere said...

cyborg...certainly could be. DHARMA is just as sinister as the US DOD's DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency) which had a key role in creating the first iterations of the internet, which has led us all to this f-fiving existence....

7/28/2006 03:27:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

cyborg - That doesn't seem to work for me....

7/28/2006 03:34:00 PM  
Blogger ColdUpHere said...

Must be rolling blackouts in California.....

7/28/2006 03:49:00 PM  
Blogger oodles said...

Thanks Colduphere and Hakar2001 for your explanations. TIME, of course. I just went with the 'single post'.
BTW Here is my current sequence

OHGE ZY6C 4KVKLAYDM0
gmx18bcj
7hkbh
rrgyxs
3ZGT 1EY8AZCZNA2
XIGZ2Y10S2 M6XY398
3gtvi0m11
88ch
fvh7n ig3x
vdados7yre0
4ho
748l

7/28/2006 03:49:00 PM  
Blogger Mark Nunemaker said...

No, Rachel's site is down for me as well... was just about to ask you guys too=P

wv: kiljoop!!! Now they are trying to kill him off? LOL!

7/28/2006 03:50:00 PM  
Blogger Mark Nunemaker said...

yeah Valenzetti is down too - looks like the only in-game sites that work right now are insidetheexperience.com and the sponsor sites...

7/28/2006 04:08:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Well, I had just lost power for a few so that is why I could not access anything, but I see things are not loading for you guys either...Hmmmm

Right when I am about to leave for a small vacation....Perfect timing!!!

Well, I kow you guys will keep things going!!

7/28/2006 04:11:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

R4R4Ever - Check your in box I just e-mailed you back....

7/28/2006 04:15:00 PM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

So speaker's "clue" regarding eighth moon thrice and all that was nothing, no connection to the hidden glyph on hole 2 (which I have never seen because has always just said no image for me)

7/28/2006 04:15:00 PM  
Blogger Mark Nunemaker said...

Hmmm... back up again lol!

7/28/2006 04:18:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

I think there was an image, because someone had it poste din the commetns earlier, but it was either removed or had too much traffic...

7/28/2006 04:23:00 PM  
Blogger Mark Nunemaker said...

mikeyp228 posted a pic of it on his blog earlier in this chat...

http://mikeyp228.blogspot.com/

7/28/2006 04:30:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Alright gang, have a great weekend!

I will be off to the New Jersey Shore for sun and fun...BellyOfDesire will be around to update the site. I also think that David and William will be back as well...until Monday!

Peace & Namaste!!

7/28/2006 04:36:00 PM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

have fun thrasher

7/28/2006 04:38:00 PM  
Blogger ColdUpHere said...

Marcus...that riddle lead us to the eighth month (August) and the year 1980 (the year of the monkey three times back from 2006). There was an archived comment on Javi's blog from that date.

7/28/2006 04:48:00 PM  
Blogger ColdUpHere said...

jess4ua: It's working for me. I just did the whole login thing, and it is loading fragments as we speak.

7/28/2006 04:53:00 PM  
Blogger Julian Delphiki said...

Sorry for being lame, but who is Javi?

7/28/2006 04:53:00 PM  
Blogger Julian Delphiki said...

Oh, nevermind, that's clever. They're finally giving us clever clues. Finally.

7/28/2006 04:56:00 PM  
Blogger ColdUpHere said...

srsizzy: Check Here

7/28/2006 04:57:00 PM  
Blogger ColdUpHere said...

The Eight Moon of the Monkey Thrice Before? Speaker Posted it on his latest blog entry at ITE. It is below all of the pictures he posted, right before the other comments start.

7/28/2006 04:59:00 PM  
Blogger Julian Delphiki said...

Okay, so I get the end, and the beginning, but where is the middle? What in the Fuselage led us to this "Javi Minions" thing? It says a single post, there's millions of posts on the Fuselage.

7/28/2006 05:14:00 PM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

Three cheers for challenging clues!!!

7/28/2006 05:30:00 PM  
Blogger ColdUpHere said...

*Bows to NolQ*
~lurk
~/lurk
WV: nyrebhl...me, a rebel?
~lurk

7/28/2006 05:40:00 PM  
Blogger ColdUpHere said...

/lurk
noble, you here? May I borrow your prayer and add it to my TLEA posting?
lurk

7/28/2006 06:00:00 PM  
Blogger Cam794 said...

Hey every1 just popin in. Man we only got 2 today how long is this thing gooing to take!

7/28/2006 06:06:00 PM  
Blogger Scoutpost said...

You know they had "dumbed down" the game so much lately that if they continue to give us clues/riddles like they did today (which I hope they do BTW), I'm going to have to wake my brain up from it's stupor to be able to figure these things out! LOL

7/28/2006 06:18:00 PM  
Blogger Twinkle said...

In the meantime anyone want to work on a joke with me? I'd like some more answers to:

Why did Thomas Werner Mittlwork cross the road?

Howard - if you get back on and see this, I credited you on my new Lost joke blog http://lostyourhumor.blogspot.com

7/28/2006 06:26:00 PM  
Blogger ColdUpHere said...

/lurk
Twinkle...I sent you a few re: your post, but I prefer the knock knock I sent you.
lurk

7/28/2006 06:44:00 PM  
Blogger Twinkle said...

Howard: I had already come up with mine before getting yours. Just didn't want you to think I'd rip you off.

Cold: Excellent Knock, Knock! I'll get it up the next chance I get!

Keep them coming!

7/28/2006 06:58:00 PM  
Blogger Hearing Voices said...

: )

7/28/2006 07:06:00 PM  
Blogger oodles said...

I think what Manny might be saying is: don't try and read too much into these pics or you might miss clues posted elsewhere :)

7/28/2006 07:17:00 PM  
Blogger ColdUpHere said...

/lurk Thanks Twinkle.
luk

7/28/2006 07:17:00 PM  
Blogger Twinkle said...

Oh, Belly! I love them! Still trying to process and figure out how to put them on the blog. Do you mind if I put them all as one entry?

7/28/2006 07:43:00 PM  
Blogger ColdUpHere said...

~/lurk
A new plagarism...this time in the form of a song.
~lurk

7/28/2006 08:31:00 PM  
Blogger Twinkle said...

Belly: I broke them up. Better for commenting. They're great! I laughed so hard!

In case you didn't I e-mailed Speaker the ones including him.

7/28/2006 08:35:00 PM  
Blogger Twinkle said...

Colduphere: I see we're in the same business. Nice to find a com-pun-ion. :-)

7/28/2006 08:40:00 PM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

Let's look at it this way. It has been one week since we started searching for these glyphs... We have found 17 so far. If we continue on this slope, we can expect to find the last glyph in mid August either during the 3 or 4th week of Act 3 of the 5. This would allow for 3 weeks for Act 4 and 3 weeks for Act 5. Or 6 weeks for Acts 4 and 5.

7/28/2006 08:42:00 PM  
Blogger ColdUpHere said...

twikle:
And finally, twinkle sent ten different puns to friends, in the hope that at least one of the puns would make them laugh.


Unfortunately, no pun in ten did.

WV: egofwok...I'm so funny I'm fwokked with ego..

7/28/2006 08:45:00 PM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

hahah no pun intended.... that is my type of joke right there! woooo

7/28/2006 08:53:00 PM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

by the way... i emailed ninja the last night and when i got a reply from him... it says his name is Tom Raggs..... Isn't Raggs a writer for lost?

7/28/2006 08:57:00 PM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

hmm looks like his name is matt raggs not Tom Raggs.... but still coincidence?

7/28/2006 08:59:00 PM  
Blogger Scoutpost said...

Oh my GOSH! Twinkle, Belly, Colduphere you guys are so funny. I'm laughing so hard. Of course it could be that I'm just so strung out from staring at the computer most of the day. Don't know what you all do for a living but you may have missed your calling !

7/28/2006 09:03:00 PM  
Blogger Scoutpost said...

Ah I see everyone else has gone out for the night....very quiet here....

7/28/2006 09:08:00 PM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

is very quite... has been since this act started... people aren't liking the glyphs.

7/28/2006 09:16:00 PM  
Blogger Twinkle said...

Thanks, scoutpost! Missed my calling? I get to do this all day and every day only for a more discerning audience, my kids. ;-)

Well, I'm done. If you've got more comments or jokes for me, post them over at lostyourhumor.blogspot.com. Thanks!

Hasta.

7/28/2006 09:23:00 PM  
Blogger thinbluemime said...

"Dennis said...
Mandrake Wig updated his flicker account again with a minor change.
He renamed the "Gentelman" photo to "headless"."

LOL, I beat Mandrake by a couple days....when you read my blog, remember.....OZ has had a major impact on the LOST storyline. In "Return to Oz" Dorothy escapes from a mental hospital, with the help of another little girl (sounds like a Claire-Alex episode) Dorothy eventually winds up in the UNDERWORLD, where everyone has trouble "Getting Ahead"

http://users.newblog.com/thinbluemime/

7/28/2006 09:38:00 PM  
Blogger SweetScrapper said...

Hi Belly,

I liked the RB/Tivo joke. Cute.

SweetScrapper

7/28/2006 11:13:00 PM  
Blogger Jen said...

hi guys...generally, i'm a lurker...but i have a question regarding season one episode when shannon shoots locke (probably cuz i'm watching it right now and something just looked funny to me)...

7/29/2006 02:13:00 AM  
Blogger Jen said...

when shannon shot locke, when i pausesd it, it looks like some goofy stuff is going on with wherever she shot him.....something like smoke or came out of his stomach or something.....any insights?

7/29/2006 02:15:00 AM  
Blogger Jen said...

guess everyone's sleeping or out on a friday night like normal people.....

7/29/2006 02:29:00 AM  
Blogger Jen said...

christian...i'm confused too.

seriously, locke has some blood on his head...i assumed shannon grazed his head, maybe it was his ear....

but then i noticed something goofy happening with his torso....there was a light reflection or something....i don't have a screen capture or anything...just watching my dvd tonight.

7/29/2006 02:45:00 AM  
Blogger Joseph Finchum said...

Well now that I have had time to sit back and relax while reading the 270+ posts here, I only have this to say.

I found the Glyph right off the bat but it had nothing to do with the Javi site or the little riddle at the end of speakers post. I never even saw the little riddle until I started reading the posts here and went to check it out. I actually found it (In what I guess is the third way to find it) from the part at the begining of Speakers post, and from just the CAPITALIZED words in the disclaimer and went rushing off to find it, this is how.

Won't you be my Neighbor and the Land of make believe are both references to Mr. Rogers neighborhood. He said "Now "we" go off to the land..." I thought how do you get to the LOMBelieve, You go through the Troolies Tunnel.... which is a Hole.

Then in the disclaimer... it said "SOME real answers a head",
= Real answer A HEAD.

Then "...in this entry TOO seriously..." the TOO = 2, so now I had HOLE 2.

Then there was this "There are NOOOOOOOO clues in here.
WEEEEEEEELLLLL, except for maybe that ONE!"

The one confused me until I thought about where I was reading this message, in reader mail #12... I thought of the +1 from the P site and put it together...12 or 1+2=3, or TOO =2 plus ONE =1, also is 3. And from all that I got Hole 2 + 1 =3, so I first checked The readermail #3 and found nothing. Then I checked the WEEK # roundup to find the picture of HOLE 2 and you know the rest.

Oh and...
My sequence as of fragment #17*...
1) ohge
2) zy6c
3) 4kvklaydm0
4) gmx18bcj
5) 7hkbh
6) 3gtvi0m11
7) xigz2y10s2
8) m6xy398
9) 88ch
10) 3zgt
11) 1ey8azczna2
12) rrhyxs
13) fvh7n
14) ig3x
15) 4ho
16) 748l
17) vdados7yre0
*All positions are subject to change...

7/29/2006 03:45:00 AM  
Blogger oodles said...

While we are waiting for another clue...
Since it seems the video will tell us more about the island I want to suggest the following island location:
16 23' 42S, 158 4' 0"W
Check it out in Google Earth.
It tallies with the flight path, being 1000 miles of course, and with Rousseaus and Desmonds comments (3 days out of Tahiti / a week from Fiji). It lies between Fiji and Tahiti, about 1500 miles E of Fiji and about 600 miles W of Tahiti.

7/29/2006 05:36:00 AM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

oodles...

*********SPOILERS***********

Desmond says that sailing due west he should have got to Fiji in less than a week, so unfortunately that doesn't fit with your co-ordinates which are west of Fiji, not east for Desmond to sail west...

7/29/2006 05:53:00 AM  
Blogger oodles said...

lavenda
according to Lostpedia:
"Desmond believes the island is a week east of Fiji at 9 knots."
http://lostpedia.com/wiki/The_Island

7/29/2006 06:07:00 AM  
Blogger oodles said...

contd.
my suggested co-ordinates are east of Fiji, he would have to sail west to get back to Fiji.

7/29/2006 06:08:00 AM  
Blogger Fenris said...

Hey Belly, I guess you'll be asleep now, but when you get up check this video out.

Whenever I see your name it makes me think of that, so just thought I'd share. :)

Meanwhile the lack of activity is prompting me to plug My DJ Dan remix projects again.

I'm not going to be around much this weekend because my Dad is staying over for the weekend, but I have a feeling I'm not going to miss anything too exciting.

7/29/2006 06:31:00 AM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

The red star is what I got from your coords... Fiji (Suva) is east of that and Tahiti is right off the map further east

7/29/2006 06:35:00 AM  
Blogger oodles said...

lavenda
I put a map on the blog at http://no-news-on-the-western-seaboard.blogspot.com/

7/29/2006 07:43:00 AM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

oodles, ah I stand corrected... looked up the coords for locations in Fiji and realised my error was E not W :) it's funny because I was looking at this just last night... I've always wondered why the plane was heading back to Fiji, why not one of the other islands that was probably closer? Does it have something to do with the facilities at the airports? Haven't looked into that... yet... anyway...

**********SPOILERS***********

from that position Desmond would have been better heading for Tonga or Samoa I would have thought... but then I don't sail, he probably knows something I don't

7/29/2006 08:18:00 AM  
Blogger oodles said...

dan10k
it happens to a lot of people, could be a bug or could mean that fragments are not in the correct order (having said that, people with different sequences have got 17/17 to play). you are not alone

7/29/2006 08:45:00 AM  
Blogger BarbaraJay said...

Re: Only 15000 playing the game on HE, I have my HE account in my name but work on the game with several other people. So, for a percentage of the players, each one on HE could represent several people.

7/29/2006 09:35:00 AM  
Blogger thinbluemime said...

Caps of Shannon shooting John Locke
(She appears to shoot at his chest, the bullet hits the torso area, glances up and nicks his left forhead)

MAYBE this is why Henry wanted John Locke :)

http://www.lostdude.com/lostpics/JohnLockeBulletBounce/John%20Locke%20-%20Bullet%20Bounce.htm

7/29/2006 09:48:00 AM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Apparently there are new glyphs in the new official lost magazine out today. One in US version, one in UK version.
HE.com hasn't released new codes however.

7/29/2006 10:00:00 AM  
Blogger oodles said...

jessiepao - yep there are no geographical (overwater) features there. But think about it: if TPTB picked a real island then
a) we could say, what's all this bull about the outside world not being able to find it, sure it's on Google, and
b) there'd be plenty fans nuts enough to be wanting to go there to see if the losties are still there or to be cured of whatever illness has befallen them.
So IMHO they had to pick a spot in the ocean that has no actual island. In any case, it's just a theory of mine. I noticed that the coordinates for Fiji are not far off the 18 23 42 pattern, then I mirrored the rest of the code and bingo it fits perfectly. The only problem is, as with other South Pacific locations, that it would have been dark at the time of the crash, not daylight. But as hardy sailors, I'm sure Rousseau and Des knew what they were talking about.

7/29/2006 11:00:00 AM  
Blogger Ellen said...

http://lowkeysoft.com/LostARG/monitor.php

7/29/2006 11:16:00 AM  
Blogger thinbluemime said...

Remember the high tide that washed away the crashed air craft in season one? Well, there are no "apparent" high tides on the equator. So the Lost island isn't near the equator, Sayid was wrong, Arzt was wrong, about the North-South direction and the Monsoon season...the losties are not ON earth...they are IN earth....

http://users.newblog.com/thinbluemime

7/29/2006 11:49:00 AM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Wow, we know the next 2 glyphs before they are released.... The race to input them first.!

7/29/2006 11:51:00 AM  
Blogger maven said...

I just emailed Matt about Code #19. Code # 19 should be rxmhjh9y (there's a "h" after the j according to the screenshot on this blog) #18 and #19 have not been released at as of this time.

7/29/2006 11:54:00 AM  
Blogger maven said...

We should keep our eyes peeled on newspaper ads, too. I keep checking out Verizon ads. They have used papers before in the game...so maybe again!

7/29/2006 12:03:00 PM  
Blogger SunBruise said...

How come the last two codes on matt's site doesnt work??

7/29/2006 12:11:00 PM  
Blogger Ellen said...

"peeks in from lurking..."
yr w'lcome smokey!
:)
"back to lurk mode..."

7/29/2006 12:13:00 PM  
Blogger SunBruise said...

All of my mittlewerk parts are gone and when I try putting them in again it says I have them, I checked everywhere for them and I refreshed the page but they wont come back!

7/29/2006 12:27:00 PM  
Blogger oodles said...

jessiepao,
my hubby sails, I'm sure if he set his mind on it he could find any spot. In any case, the island as we know it is large enough to show up on Google but remember what
*********SPOILER*********



fake Henry Gale said - He claims that Michael would never find the island again if he decided to come back, and while captured in the hatch, he claimed that even "God" wouldn't see the island.
So it would make sense if it did not show up on Google ;)

7/29/2006 12:38:00 PM  
Blogger oodles said...

@dedjezter
Please, can you explain?
Who is Mr. Rogers?
What is LOMBelieve?
What is the Troolies Tunnel?
Thx

7/29/2006 12:46:00 PM  
Blogger Mark Nunemaker said...

oodles...

Mr Rogers was a guy who did a kids show here in the US. He died a few years back, but his kids show was very popular during the late 70's all the way through the 80s (it may have gone on further than that, but also could have been reruns too). I grew up in France so I missed most of it, but family members back in the States would send me tapes of the show when I was little. He is often mocked nowadays, but those are just bullies=P Most kids loved the show no matter what they say now LOL!

Anyway, LOM stands for the Land of Make Believe - which was a fantasy area that the show would take you to by way of a model train=) Troolies Tunnel was also a part of the show.

So anyway, all that to say it was an American kids show.

7/29/2006 01:23:00 PM  
Blogger oodles said...

Thanks lordnune. That explains why I've never heard of it.

7/29/2006 01:51:00 PM  
Blogger thinbluemime said...

Remember when "Zeke" said to Jack "Interesting Theory" and it turns out it wasn't a theory, that Zeke HAD sent a mole into the losties camp? Well, Lindelof and crew put those words into Zeke's dialog. Now in response to a question about OZ and LOST, Lindelof says "Interesting Theory".

Articles, Links and Details here.....I Love LOST !
http://users.newblog.com/thinbluemime/

7/29/2006 03:26:00 PM  
Blogger thinbluemime said...

"JessiePao said...
So you think they're in some Truman show eco-bubble within the earth?"

I think the Losties are inside the earth, the hollow earth, or in the ancient tradition, of Dante and Hades.
I think the Pala Ferry will transport the losties to the next "level" of hell, and the smoke monster resides in one of the lower 9 levels of Hades. Weird, I know....I have details at the blog, and the blog requires some creative "connecting the dot" thinking, because I have not tied it all together in one coherent theory...but I know I am on the right track....

7/29/2006 03:44:00 PM  
Blogger Makin said...

2 NEW GLYPHS IN MATT THE PALES CODE FRAGMENT PAGE.

7/29/2006 05:07:00 PM  
Blogger oodles said...

makin,
they don't work yet

7/29/2006 05:13:00 PM  
Blogger Carol Dunstan said...

"released" is when they are... well, released... out there for us to find. "Published" in HE lingo means at least one person has input the code. They probably did not expect the mail service to be so efficient (for once... oh wait, not talking about Australia Post here. And no, Australia does not seem to have an official Lost mag :( ) and the codes fragments will be "released" Monday. Still I am surprised we were not given busy work this weekend.

7/29/2006 05:30:00 PM  
Blogger Young Wallace said...

Hey did anybody see that MattThePale has two new frags on his site!?! haha, only kidding!

Man, weekends are hard to keep up with clues. Hope monday is better!

7/29/2006 06:12:00 PM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

yay.... more people should post stuff around the world... check out ninja's blog!

7/29/2006 07:45:00 PM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

so codes 18 and 19 listed by MTP as having been found in fan mags are not working yet because they have not been "released" yet?

7/29/2006 10:55:00 PM  
Blogger Scoutpost said...

Thinblue- my only problem with your theory is that it is really similar to the whole purgatory theory that the producers have denied...I realize there are some differences with yours, but I would think it may be too close to be an option. JMHO-(which is often wrong anyway).

7/30/2006 01:50:00 AM  
Blogger Scoutpost said...

Belly- you're still up too! Yeah for us west coasters!

7/30/2006 01:51:00 AM  
Blogger Scoutpost said...

Do you guys think that there is something to the whole leaderboard on HE.com- such as do you think that the people whose names are on there will get some kind of game payoff at somepoint? or do you all think that it is just shoutout of sorts?

7/30/2006 01:59:00 AM  
Blogger Fenris said...

Belly - Yeah that's a good point. It no longer matters who first spotted the glyph code in the magazine, it's now who can stay online refreshing hansoexposed until they can enter it. So whoever get's the credit isn't neccisarily skilled at finding codes, they are just skilled at sitting, staring at a PC and hitting the refesh button. Perhaps not even that if they are using a program to monitor site changes. Although the refresh button guys will probably get there first.

To be honest, I can't bring myself to care about the leaderboard. When it comes down to things like, who reads Ninja's blog first it doesn't seem like anything I particularly fancy bragging about. Then again, I've had my shout out, if I hadn't maybe I'd be more after getting on the leaderboard. I can't say 100%, but at the moment I don't think I'd care anyway. I don't really like it being a leaderboard. It would have been better if they just got Rachel or someone to give a proper shoutout to people as they got the clues.

7/30/2006 07:13:00 AM  
Blogger NiteSea said...

film-
Do you subscribe or did you buy it in the store? I don't know where around here I could get it...

7/30/2006 08:19:00 AM  
Blogger NiteSea said...

so my theory is they'll release them at times that make sense for the people in the region of each magazine... meaning the UK people would have a better chance of entering their code, because it'll be released, say Monday morning UK time (which could mean before west-coasters go to bed tonight too...). That'd be the nice thing to do at least, since the several of the clues so far were easier for east coasters to find time-wise. But if I'm right, we'll be in bed when the next one is released, then the one from the US mag will be released Monday morning on the east coast probably...

7/30/2006 08:35:00 AM  
Blogger Fenris said...

You'd think if there were people monitoring the sites they'd have made it active as soon as it was discovered. Makes sense.

Hmmf, unless the new tactic is to get loads out there and then make them active in a random order. But what's the point in that?

7/30/2006 08:35:00 AM  
Blogger NiteSea said...

fenris-
If they were doing that, it may mean that the glyphs themselves have meaning as far as what order they will be released in. (or maybe I'm stretching... I just think there has to be some meaning to the glyphs and am struggling to figure out what it could be...)

7/30/2006 08:51:00 AM  
Blogger maven said...

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7/30/2006 10:21:00 AM  
Blogger maven said...

Morning to anyone who's around!

I don't know about you guys, but I think this game is in serious danger of losing people. The interest seems to be waning as these glyphs are so aggravatingly (is that a word?) dribbled out. It's like water torture. TPTB tried to get alot of new people interested after the Rachel/ComicCon thing and her FAQ post, but I don't think a lot of them are hanging in there. I've never seen the boards, blogs, forums, chat rooms so quiet. I sense a lot of people are just saying: "Let others that have the time/energy/ego/incentive to do the hunting and posting of new frags and I'll just check in from time to time. I just want the whole video done with already." The leaderboard means nothing to me. I could care less about seeing my name on there. I guess it's important to some, but not me. If those 2 LOST magazine glyphs are real, whoever enters them first gets on the leaderboard...what's the point of that? I truly appreciate people "finding" the glyphs and posting info...but TPTB are making sure they will be found. I just don't have the inclination, time, patience, or...most importantly...the desire, to search myself.

Personally, I'm about to leave for a 3 week vacation and I had dreaded missing so much. Now, at this current pace, by the time I get back the video will have been completed and I don't think I'm going to have missed out on much (except for chatting with you guys!)

Another thing I beginning to think: This video might be the end of the game! TPTB are drawing this out as long as they can (since the start of Season 3 was pushed back). I don't think they have anything left after we see the video. It will probably explain a lot of things about the Valenzetti Equation and what Mittelwerk is up to...then what? Are we supposed to stop Mittelwerk from doing what he's planning? The whole point of this game was to find out what THF was up to and exposing them. The video might finally accomplish that. The only question remaining might be Where's Alvar?

I hope I'm wrong about this...and sorry for the long rant.

7/30/2006 10:23:00 AM  
Blogger maven said...

Yes, experimentalfilm: Another thing I've noticed on various forums ang blogs: Tempers are getting very short. Nastiness, name-calling, ego-tripping are increasing like I've never seen. With all this downtime between releasing frags people either leave the game to actually live their lives or hang around and start picking on eachother. I'm not saying it's everyone...only a small percentage...most of us are continuing to try to make sense of what we've learned and have really good theories and speculations. But I have seen an increase since this glyph thing started!

7/30/2006 10:40:00 AM  
Blogger Ange said...

I agree with Maven and experimantal...This part of the game is deathly slow! I had to take most of this week off from playing, and I feared that I would miss so much, but now I just don't really care. I am content to check the blogs and get the codes, enter them, and be done with it. There isn't anymore discussion on the boards, because there really isn't anything to talk about. Every time a clip is released we can chat about what is in it, but there is less speculation, and theorizing going on. Add to that all of the new players who have missed so much of the game that people playing from the beginning had worked so hard to follow. For me reading through the blogs and answering/ discussing the same questions over and over again (answers that can be found by READING what others have posted and looking at TLEC main page) has become tiresome. I really hope this clip phase isn't the end, and that we pick up the pace with it, and get on with the game. Now I am off to re-order and save my clips....because Hansoexposed.com has pitched them all back to storage, but that is a rant for a different day!

7/30/2006 10:41:00 AM  
Blogger Tom Mein, Guitarist said...

I tend to agree Maven. I am relatively new to the game, having spent most of the first act as a lurker. The whole ComicCon Rachel appearance was cool and represented an opportunity for the game to really take off in popularity. It was exciting and brought some new interest into the game. But the latest development, the 70-piece video, and the way it is being presented, handing us out fragments 1, 2 and sometimes 3 a day, is nothing if not tiresome. You know nothing really significant is going to happen for at least 3 weeks and probably more like a month, when almost all of the frags are assmbled into a coherent whole. And you know too that its going to happen and reveal itself whether you go through the drudgery of keeping up with the clues daily or you wait untill the end, spend an hour or so gathering all the frags, and assembling them, catching up. Theres little motivation to participate, other than a residual excitement from Rachel's ComicCon appearance. The individual frags are almost meaningless ... Anyway, Ill probably stick with it till the end but I am not sure, it is tiresome and time comsuming and lately there has been very little fun about it other than chatting wiht the community playing Trivia ...d

7/30/2006 10:45:00 AM  
Blogger maven said...

Hi, ange: It's a small comfort that, so far, people do agree with me. And I wholeheartedly agree with your "rant" about people newer to the game posting and asking the same stuff over and over. It's so simple to READ various summaries that are all over the place, and of course, the front page of TLEC. I don't want to feel more superior to the new people, but many of us "old timers" that have been here since day one have put in a lot of time and effort into this thing, are very frustrated in the repititious and uneducated questions posted. I try to be nice, and if I'm around, answer people and direct them to the right place or tell them that: yes, hansoadoptions.com is NOT in game. I still check TLEC religiously all day, but, to tell the truth, at this point, I'm getting tired of it all and don't post nearly as often as I did. Of course, there's not much to talk about lately, either! (Except to complain about there's nothing much to talk about. lol)

7/30/2006 10:51:00 AM  
Blogger maven said...

P.S.: And I haven't even had to enter anything new to the Timeline since July 22!

7/30/2006 10:54:00 AM  
Blogger Ange said...

Maven...hanso adoptions...THANKS for the laugh! You made my day!!!!!:)

7/30/2006 11:02:00 AM  
Blogger maven said...

Sorry, jess: Just letting off steam.

7/30/2006 11:10:00 AM  
Blogger maven said...

I'm just sitting here, rewatching LOST Season 1 and doing the Sunday crossward! (And, obviously, still checking in here! Can't help myself! LOL)

7/30/2006 11:18:00 AM  
Blogger oodles said...

squirrel, I live in hope, like yourself.
"three will...three will rock you", well not quite yet.
Anyway, played with Google Earth yesterday and proposed a new (I think) location for the island at
16 23' 42S, 158 4' 0"W
Well today I thought that the opposite point of the globe must be somewhere in Africa (remember, we still don't know how a Beechcraft 18 with a range of 1200 miles could possibly crash somewhere near Fiji unless it refuelled 10 or so times). Well, the opposite point on the globe at 16 23' 42N, 21 56' 00"E is in Chad in what looks like a valley right beside a cliff... Moreover, that spot is precisely within the flight range of the Beechcraft 18...
What d'ye think?

7/30/2006 11:41:00 AM  
Blogger oodles said...

contd.
The spot in Chad is just on the edge of the southern Sahara. Inside the plane was a map in which the word SAHARA was prominently featured.

7/30/2006 11:59:00 AM  
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7/30/2006 12:16:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Thanks, mack: Great blog! I even bookmarked you!

7/30/2006 12:18:00 PM  

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