Clue(s) #77 - Rachel Blake at Comic Con & HansoExposed.com & Fragment Codes "7hkbh" & "RRGYXS"
11:12am (West Coast Time Zone) BellyOfDesire just called me from inside the panel. Rachel interrupted the panel with Jorge Garcia, Daniel Dae Kim, Damon Lindelof & Carlton Cuse. Rachel Blake was sitting on the front row during the Q&A with Damon & Carlton. Nobody seemed to notice her because her back was to everyone. People were lined up at a mic asking the producers questions. Suddenly, Rachel interrupts...
HERE IS THE VIDEO! Transcript posted under "Administrator" in the comments. Thanks to BellyOfDesire for first contact from within the panel, Andy for the first full transcript, and Stelvin for sending audio & video. Tapdawg & Nightmaremommie are also there hunting for more clues...
I also uploaded the video on YOUTUBE.
HansoExposed.com
First, go to hansoexposed.com. Be sure you read the "INSTRUCTIONS" before moving on. Click "REGISTER" at the bottom and enter all the information they ask you for. You will be sent a confirmation email from Rachel. Next you can "LOGIN" using your new LOGIN & PASSWORD that you created. It seems that everyone will have their own place for collecting and organizing and sharing video "fragments". Possibly 70 clips/fragments total grouped in chunks. The first chunk is 7 fragments long. "Fragment codes" will be hidden everywhere apparently always accompanied by "glyphs". (What's a glyph?) We have to find fragment codes and then share with everyone.
Here are our first 2 fragment codes:
7hkbh is seen during the first sequence scroll on the opening to hansoexposed.com with the glyph around it. The video fragment for this code is of a man with beard (Mr. Beardy) saying..."As with with all you've already been told, you are bound by your honor and commitment to keep what you are about to hear a secret."
RRGYXS is found when you click on the instructions in the bottom menu on the far right. It is in the glyph to the right of the text. The video fragment for this code is of Mr. Beardy saying..."You will know that the one true way has been found..."
*See a summary of all the found fragment codes at...
Matt the Pale's HansoExposed Video Fragment Code List
394 Comments:
Yay for faster loading!
Piggybacking on the other comments ...
According to a New York Times article published May 27, 2006, the senior vice president of marketing of ABC said: "Troup can be seen being sucked into an airplane engine in the first episode."
Just and FYI...from Lostpedia...I'd say Gary Troup is dead.
Caboose, do you know where we are?
Ange: Agree. Troup is dead. Makes sense in the storyline.
Hey guys, I'm not that tech savvy! I'm posting from my freakin' PSP! But hey, it works right? Anyways, its just about to start, I have little to no connection in here and TLEC is REALLY laggy. Pray I don't lose the connection!
Dumb me: What's PSP?
THANKS for the links Kinetic!!!
GO Caboose!!!
is anything happening yet?
Didn't nightmaremommie say she was going?
thanks, adelphiadella
ITS STARTING!!!! : )
Maybe we should stop "talking" and let Caboose post....
thanks to all the persons posting at comic con for us!
EEEK! Keep us posted caboose!
jamaster- you might want to recopy your post and put *spoilers* on top- a lot of that info is a spoiler for all the aussies and brits on this list.
jamaster- great work on the list though!
OMG I see Hurley! And Damon and Carlton!
jamaster-check out my post above...it is about Gary Troup/the plane/and being dead:)
Caboose - DUDE!
Can't wait to hear JJ and Carlton's big announcement. I think Hanso mafia will show. Watch out Belly, Tap, Ryan and the rest of the crew. Who knew just going to a convention could be harmful;)
Update soon
I love Hurley! Thanks, Caboose! I feel lke I'm there with ya'!
I'm sooo excited!
Maybe Rachel will sneak in with her pizza delivery hat on and pass off some info to one of our guys.
Wow, Caboose, you're so famous!
Caboose is a rock star...Speaker's even following him!
This is so much fun!
the tension......
Gyre: Inside The Experience (ABC Blog)
UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE
ok, where's Manny and ninja?
I tried to get them to just let Caboose post....Let's stop talking.
I just got back. I caught up on the comments and have my own to post. Should I wait? I tabled them in notepad because there was so much awesome stuff going on.
Those Comic Con guys are taking their work so seriously. Way to go!
Let's keep posting to a minimum...Let Caboose post...he's on a spotty PSP
OMG I'm so JAZZED!
Damon is talking about Season 3...
Connection...fading...
Guys, I gotta sign off for a while...this thing is an hour and a half long, and anyone who has a PSP will know that the battery will DEFINTELY not last that long, especially while connecting to the web...But if anything noteworthy happens, I'll get back on and let you all know ASAP!
Signing off...
ahhhhhh ok thanks again caboose
I guess people with cell phones won't want to call in, either while it's going on. :(
RACHEL IS HERE!!!!!
Thank you Caboose
OMG OMG OMG
how the heck did rachel figure out to go to comic con? omg i can't belive she is there!!
this is amazing! you can't hear me squealing with glee! haha
maybe rachel is- that would be cool
Don't know, beka. Would think not! They'd want to put out their own.
Unless they have video glasses. LOL
more updates please
Mav... we're all hanging out in CHAT...
Just talked to Belly...he called from within the panel discussion. Updated front page with his short synopsis. More later.
BellyOfDesire just called me from inside the panel. Rachel interrupted the panel with Daman & Carlton. She said: "It's all real." "Alvar Hanso is real." "What about Joop?" and "To learn more go to HansoExposed.com." Go now!
admin, does he have video?
I registered. Some sort of sequence to arrange to see the video. Very dark and hard to read for me.
hansoexposed it a collective storehouse. When we find stuff, we upload it there.
At least that's what it looks like.
search all over the web for parts of the video. register and rachel will send you an email
wow! We ARE part of this! Are fragments on other sites?
Hard to read site for me, too. Fuzzy red writing on black bg.
where did you type it in?
omg guys--my connection dropped right after I posted about rachel being here. I was pretty much useless : ( sorry
ITE said rachel was she or was she not escorted out by security
i can't get a box to come up to type in the code...what i am doing wrong??
I have the same code... what do we do with it all lol? I am not figuring it out...
Found the first fragment!!! It's in the insturctions screen. TType it in as a fragment code to get the first one!!
nm found it
ok, but I closed the page and am trying to log back in now, and it logs me in but just shows that I have collected one fragment, and does not allow me to do anything else. Anyone else figuring out the interface and what exactly we do?
you know what, fitz is right... the pages are just not loading because everyone is there. Not gonna be able to do much right now I think
marigumi...I think it says "fragment found" b/c it was already found by passafist. Only one person can find a fragment. We have to rely on each other? Is that how its working? Now passafist has to share it with us.
Thanks for the email passafist...I'm still trying to figure this out.
@aui same deal here... but now I am locked out. The page is being overloaded with people lol!
fitz66-
tried that, not valid...
sorry!
sulymonal just ran an ad on G4
maybe a fragment there
Sweetscrapper
Does the site have any sound??
I found the fragment but I don't know how to play it!!! Just go to the instruction screen it right there!!!
I have the page up and it's working fine-)
don't know if this will work
apparently 11 people already have fragments...
We have to put them in order.
ragyxs not working either-gives message "as of 14:? that code is not valid"
Rachel E-mailed me this note!!!'
THANKS FOR HELPING ME PIECE TOGETHER THE TRUTH ABOUT THE HANSO FOUNDATION.
THE VIDEO YOU'RE PUTTING TOGETHER COULD BE THE KEY TO TAKING THEM DOWN ONCE AND FOR ALL.
HERE'S YOUR LATEST VIDEO SEQUENCE:
http://www.hansoexposed.com/player/8eb690f80128cb0e7b24e226a9acc421
LATER.
RACHEL
It takes you to a site where you can look at the fragments but so far I can only get one to work! I looks like the close up of some american currency. But there is no sound! Does the Hansoexposed site have any sound??
http://hansoexposed.com/
READ the TERMS OF USE
(Register-Agree to Terms & Conditions)
Screw You MICKY
I was wrong...everybody can find each fragement. I think.
I still can't past the User Stat screen. I hit refresh by accident! Darnit lol!
I tried to login to look at the inital screen to enter more fragments and it won't let me. What do I do if I find the next code?? Hmmm.... Does the site have sound??
Could it be that the game will not allow you to discover and enter every fragment? SO that everybody has a chance to find one! That the whole point of this part of game is to encourage everyone to get involved. Send e-mail framgent message to everyone? Post them all over the net. Maybe the next code needs to be discovered and entered into the hansoexposed site by someone who hasb't posted this lat code and it's that persons job to e-mail everyone to view the fragment?
Just got off the phone with Belly0fDesire...
Rachel was sitting on the front row during the Q&A with Damon & Carlton. People were lined up at a mic asking them questions. Suddenly, Rachel interrupts with something along the lines of (this is very rough - belly0fdesire has audio that he will send me later.)
R:How can you be so inhumane?
D/C: I'm sorry...what?
R: What about Joop?
D/C: He's not real.
R: No he's real. THF is real. Where is Alvar Hanso?
D/C: He's a character on our show. He's fictional.
R: No he's real. THF is real. I have proof. Go to hansoexposed.com
Rachel was escorted out.
Whew sorry for the spelling mistakes!!
Just heard via cellphone from ryandrumz: Rachel was fantastic! Ended up being dragged away by security guards. He has a video, but can't do anything with it til gets home (about a 2 1/2 to 3 hour drive). Says it was unbelieveable!
Check out ASR9. I can't cause I'm stuck on my stats page....
I've got the crazy tv-test beginning but so far haven't been able to get any further.... everytime I reload, I get something sort of different..... not able to get back to the "find fragments" section since the first time...
Can see a whole list of everyone else who've "saved" sequences...
Hmmm... fun.
Did Rachel forget how many people access her sites? Underestimate bandwidth needs?
I've reloaded and see Mr. Beardy in the top corner of "Storage 01"
It directed me back to this area....
Think a lot of this is the underestimate of bandwidth....
I'm using Safari and after a couple of re-loads it's working better for me...
Staying on the enter fragment code page right now.
Will Comicon videos be posted here eventually?
Until he gets a name.... the guy with the beard is:
Mr. Beardy.
I so declareth.
Anyone checking other UK or AU sites? It DID ask us where we were from in the beginning... don't forget about the community aspect they're always preaching about.
It works for me in IE now too - was using Firefox before. All I have is one clip with the bearded guy after I enter the RRGYXS code. And he says "you will know that the watchful way has been found" or that is what it sounds like to me anyway.
Don't presume the fragments are in the right order...
They might vanish when you put them in the wrong order.
Could the bearded man be alvar hanso and this be the orientation video that was spoken of a few weeks ago??
I completely closed out and logged back in. Now my 2 fragments are showing up in my storage section
7h is /03.
It stayed when I put it there.
ok, nm. For some reason it did not save it earlier when I clicked save after entering the 7hkbh code. I re-entered it and now have the two clips.
OK, for everyone trying to figure this out, here is a quick guide of what I have figured out so far:
After logging in, enter a code at the bottom right hand corner. The two codes we have so far are:
RRGYXS
7hkbh
After you enter each code, the snippets will be up top in the Storage Boxes. You can drag them down into the sequence boxes (/01 - /70) and if you want to view them, click on the MIDDLE ZOOM button and then click once on each frame. It will play the little video snippet.
Now all we need is 68 other codes and then trying to piece them together correctly lol.
Yep, IF YOU HAVE PROBLEMS,
LOAD AND RELOAD the page.
SERIOUSLY thinking this gets better bit by bit.
2nd video goes in #3
firefox working fine for me...whoever can capture video should upload segments to YOUTUBE and name them using the "fragment code"
Bones, Mr. Beardy it is!
BTW...I'm "David" in hansoexposed.com. Thought "Administrator" wouldn't be appropriate over there!
no, we have no idea where those fragments go for real yet I don't think... I can put either one in any box in the sequence...
Alright, and screw all my talking about what goes in what place (not that anyone was paying attention)
It's total puzzle work. 2 different clips, 2 different backgrounds, 7 different storage spaces....
That's how it's gonna work.
And hey, anyone see that a frickin WAR is going on?
Just felt like mentioning it.
(not bitching at anyone... hell, I'm doing this, watching Season 5 of Angel, and have CNN on the TV on mute. Just frustrated)
Mr. Beardy just has SUCH a good ring to it.
no, she was there apparently... she was taken out by security guards.
She turned up IN PERSON.
(I also know that she showed up in person because that part was in the casting-call)
ok, well I tried entering the codes in sublymonal.com and no luck - not that it would be that easy, but just saving others the time lol
My head hurts from all of this!
In case anyone is wondering, I am registered on the hansoexposed site as CThrasher76! Until they can fix it for me, if they can or if they care.
Hmmm.... there are 70 clip fragment that we will need to find. (by scrolling all the way to the end of the timeline you'll there are 70 boxes) and then we have to put them together 7 clips at a time. Looks like act three will be one big clip fragment scavenger hunt!!! Sounds like fun!!
Somebody better post a video of Rachel taking the stand. That sounds so sweet! I wish I could be there.
I'm KBarrick on it...
The e-mail from Rachel I got (which I think EVERYONE did) said that "CLUES WILL FIND THEIR WAY TO A TRUSTED FEW"
Think this will mean some INDIVIDUALS will be getting codes and/or "INDIVIDUALS" like on Rachel's message board will find them... the way the shooting-video got up.
So monitoring message boards... fun fun fun.
War still going on.
RoT--is it still stienbeck?
yes it is i just checked...nothing new there, unless the codes are hidden from past clues- hope that wording makes sense, sorry if it doesnt
according to ITE: The first episode is called: "Tale of Two Cities"
yes it is, Steinbeck with a capital S
yes yall are right. sorry bout that
Do we have more codes than the first two?
Partial transcript from Andy.
Rachel: Don't lie to me. Tell me what you know about the Hanso Foundation.
(Crowd erupts into applause.)
Lindelof: It's a philanthropic organization that we created for the purposes of Lost.
Rachel: those films are real. We deserve the truth. Don't be cute. You're promoting them as some force for good and they're not.
Rachel: Okay, they claim to have a monkey named Joop. How can you (obscured audio) (Lindelof and Cuse lean to one another to confer privately) Stop...stop that! (Something about Africa). How do you explain the deaths of (?) And Hugh McIntyre
codes codes codes
I think it's "WATCHFUL WAY"
Lostpedia isn't updated yet. Is anyone keeping track of the glyphs found? Anyone able to post it there?
Great idea, Jack.
Has speculation begun on whether the guy from the first two clips is Hanso and why he's two different ages?
I've got Andy & Belly looking for codes at ComicCon
My guess is that the guy in the video is hanso and this is the orientation video rachael spoke of a few weeks ago!!
MR. BEARDY on the front page!!!
LONG LIVE MR. BEARDY!!!
Think Rachel got out of Comic-con security custody yet?
i have forund that if you have the frags saved right, and you put them in, say, 2 and 7, it will play one....then the triangle static....then the other.
Foxy
http://lostdude.com/lostpicTEMP/Week05_Post3FInal_2.jpg
Marcus_Isn't_Lost ;-) said...
Do you guys think that could be Hanso and the orientation video that TWM mentions on the beach(?) of Sanremo?
could be......
maybe it was an orientation video for the "big wigs" before they go to the island.
Maybe we should start a list of potential sites. When Rachel says "all over the web", I'm thinking we're expanding beyond the usual Sprite/Jeep/Verizon. Perhaps we should start thinking of other sites that tie to some of our experiences here....like
1. abc.com
2. jimmy kimmel
3. my space
4. comic con
Matt the Pale,
I know...mind boggling!
twinklestar & passafist,
My first instinct was that mr beardy = young Alvar Hanso! "hanso exposed"
1. abc.com
2. jimmy kimmel
3. my space
4. comic con
5. flikr
6. amazon/gary troup
Has anyone been able to freeze the clip from 7hkbh? BEfore it zooms in on the guys face he is standing and there is a sign of soe sort behind him on his right...does anyone have a still of this? Could it be something?
Hmm... sounds like the first set of codes are probably inn the cars.. The discalimer at the end of that website is telling
I quote:
Please Note: It has come to the attention of the staff at The Dharma Initiative that some of the Station 3: The Swan Orientation Flash Card sets may have become contaminated with information from another Dharma Initiative station. The rate of this contamination has not been revealed. Please be diligent, observant and proceed with caution. If you have any of these Orientation Flash Card Sets in your possession, we suggest that you examine them closely.
Jack:
I'll bet it takes seven weeks! Each week we'll have to track down 10 fragments. This would end this part sometime in mid September!! The game will probably conclude.
I wonder if there were local TV camera's there. You would think a rucuss would bring media attention....
OMNI:
I just reposted what I read here
http://www.inkworkscards.com/offer/sdcc/dharma/index.html
Inkworks are at Booth # 2629
Except if you look at the clip storage area there is room for ten clips, and seven storage areas. So I think there are ten clips each week that we are looking for, and we probably won't find anymore til after comic-con!
Just posted an ALMOST COMPLETE transcript of RB at Comic Con. VERY DRAMATIC!
Later all! Need to go laydown and rest my noodle! Completely blown away today!!! WOW Can't wait fora full report from Belly et all!!!
Peace & Namaste!
How do you play the first segment. It doesn't nothing when I click on it.
The more important question to me is if the story is over??? Will we still be hearing from Rachel, will she still runn all over the world?? or is tracking down the glyphs what we're going to be doing from now on!?!
Admin....did anybody get video of Rachel's appearance?
Never mind I figured it out.
sid....
My guess is each week we'll get a small fragment that will combine to create a longer section of the video. After seven weeks we combine all the larger pieces into the completed video!!!
fasten,
2 people that I know of got video. Should be posted tonight...late maybe.
Apparently everyone expected Rachel (or whatever) to happen at the end so they weren't ready when she interrupted the Producer panel. It took everyone a bit to find where she was. Big room. She's short. Everyone was surprised that she was already in the room. I bet it was crazy!
jack,
What's the worst a security guard can do? They can't arrest or hold anybody...just ask them to leave.
admin: ryandrumz called me, said he had video. Will be in touch when he gets home. I guess probably around 4 pm pst.
Thanks admin!
*fingers cramping...back to searching EVERYWHERE on the web*
I was also thinking of the pictures from the persephone pages on THF.org. But I think the key to this game is the Glyph's We need to track the glyphs down. All legitimate passwords will be part of a glyph!! Do the puzzles have glyphs on them??
guys how do you get the clips to play?
thanks!
ok now i have no sound wtf, help please thanks
Christine#2, we're all not getting audio now...
ok do they think the site is overloaded?
Got it!VIDEO OF RACHEL AT COMIC CON!!!!
HERE IS THE TRANSCRIPT (taking it off the mainpage):
Rachel: Don't be cute. Tell us what you know about the Hanso Foundation.
(Crowd erupts into applause.)
Lindelof: The Hanso Foundation is uh..a philanthropic organization that we have co-opted for the purposes of Lost (?) with the orientation films and uh...
Rachel: Those films are real! We deserve the truth.
Lindelof: (unintelligible)...we're writers...
Rachel: You're liars! You're promoting them as some force for good and they're not!
Lindelof: Look, uh, you know how Dan Brown uses Opus Dei in The DaVinci Code...
Rachel: Okay, so, since you claim not to know, How about I fill you in. They claim to have a monkey named Joop, a 105 year old orangutan. How can you (write about Iceland? (obscured audio)) Do you know anything... (Lindelof and Cuse lean to one another to confer privately) Stop...stop that! (Something about Africa). How do you explain the deaths of Hugh McIntyre and Darla Taft?
Lindelof: (we can't answer) your questions, we have no connection...
Rachel: I'm sure they wanted me to ask these questions.
Lindelof: We have no connection...
Rachel: That's a lie! They bought ads during your show. They're putting money in ABC's pockets to prove it's a great philanthropic organization?!
Lindelof: (Maybe...maybe you need to ask...)
Rachel: Stop it! You're protecting him. You're protecting a very real, very dangerous organization.
Lindelof: It's not real! It's a television show! There is no Alvar Hanso! (Editor's note: this was pretty surreal as it reminded me of the Shatner SNL sketch with "Get a life!", especially since many people were not familiar with TLE)
Rachel: It is real! The Hanso Foundation is real! The Dharma Initiative is real! Thomas Verner Mittlework is real and what he's doing right now, in Sri Lanka, he's doing terrible things, that's real. Where is Alvar Hanso?
Lindelof: He's an actor.
Cuse: He's in a window in our TV show.
Rachel: Alvar Hanso is real and I have living proof of that and my name is Rachel Blake and I am real! (Crowd roars into applause) if you want the truth, you will go to hansoexposed.com! (Rachel turns to face crowd and shows her shirt with www.hansoexposed.com) (Obscured audio) (She turns to face stage again) you have blood on your hands! You have blood on your hands and YOU DISGUST ME!
(Rachel is led out by security)
guys i can get the audio but no video of rachel.
wow! just watched the video and I've got chills. If only we could've been there!
Hi Folks.
Just got back from Comic Con. I've emailed video and audio to Admin.
I'm uploading my video to YouTube as I type. Hopefully by the time I'm done I'll have a link to put in here.
I've sent the audio to someone who has a site to post it on as well. Its only about 3 minutes. The only "real" into in the whole thing is to go to hansoexposed.com. But it she was really there!
We needed more questions to the panel about the game, but I got the feeling that most of the crowd would have been "lost".
Audio Here
Video Here
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Got only the audio, also.
Back again. Earlier today I fell and scraped up my knee and hand. Pretty scary because I was carrying my 18 m old. She's fine. Anyway, now I'm kind of glad because DH is taking care of kids and I get to get back on the board with you all!
Great job, everybody! Listened to the Quick time.
Posted that video on youtube so those without quicktime can view it. It's still processing but you can acess it here
COmic Con Video
Woot, thanks for the video. Was hoping someone would take one.
That was AWESOME!
Was that Hugo saying "he's an actor"? It kind of sounded like he wasn't in on it.
Stelven: Used your youtube on the Timeline. Okay?
I bet Damon & Carlton are giggling like school girls behind closed doors for the whole stir they're making!
They got us on the Sri Lanka thing. Giving it to us outright but in a way we didn't understand. Now they've got us hanging on their every glymph. Nice integrating the show with the ARG (i.e. in the ARG the show is still a TV show with nuggets taken from or planted by THF).
good point b!x, I missed that the first time I watched it. Yep, she is related...
COmic Con Video
Here's the You Tube Link!!!
YOUTUBE LINK to Rachel at Comic Con
Hmmmm..."she's living proof" sure sounds like he's a father/grandfather, because if he WASN'T real, then she couldn't exist. But, they just keep that door of doubt open just a crack, don't they?
I think all the codes will be inside the boxed glyphs of some sort. I think we need to be looking for those in order to get the codes we need. We need to be vigilant because they may go away quickly like the first one does on HE
Watching the video. Yeah, Damon & Carlton are rolling on the carpet of their hotel rooms for what they pulled today.
And while the Comic Con people got to see Rachel, they had to wait while we figured out hansoexposed. All about community, man...
You all are gonna hate me. I got another email from Rachel Blake. She gave me a yahoo.com email address for her and a code to put in my email to her. She responded with this:
"I hope you know that I can not give you any codes for hansoexposed.com, it is risky. You can be trusted. I will tell you that I have found something about Gary Troup. He was trying to expose The Hanso Foundation, but he was not brave enough. He hid it all with in Bad Twin. Ohh wait, gotta go. Look Closely!"
Anybody else get this email?
OMG, Admin. I didn't get one. Now the book comes into play...running to get my copy off the shelf!
Anybody check out Speaker's spoilers for season three. Two points in particular address theories we've been discussing.
**spoilers**
*reiterating the Monster is NOT nanobots, and the whole thing is NOT in Vincent's mind
-Doesn't mean nanotechnology isn't being used. I was thinking the vaccine was nano.
*Someone asked a question about time, and the panel responded "That's assuming time passes normally on the island, as it might off the island"
I hadn't bought into that theory, but hmm...
Admin is a trusted few!
"Select few will get clues
" to where the "glyphs are hidden all over the web"?
So what could be in Bad Twin? She hadn't decided to use the glyph method thing until this week and the book's been out a while.
Maven, I wasn't getting audio, but that was in firefox. I changed to IE and the audio worked. Do you use Firefox?
It may be worth upgrading flash too. I've had problems with any flash in firefox the last couple of days but have now updated.
i have no glyphs on my dust jacket. here are the websites listed on the inside back flap
www.HyperionBooks.com
http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/
www.garytroup.net
I'm sorry y'all. This has been an awesome day but I HAVE to leave now. I think the frontpage is sufficiently updated. We've all got video, audio, transcripts, fragment codes, and more to process through! Email us if something needs to be changed. I'll be out the rest of the evening but Belly, Thrasher76, or William may be checking.
thanks, fenris. Saw the youtube one.
Oooh, more spoilers from the panel today that relates to our theories.
Speaker posted this link: http://www.eonline.com/Insider/Boards/ann.jspa?annID=631
**spoiler**
* The word "clone" will never be heard on the show
* If you're asking about daddy issues, you're asking the right questions.
* The producers say the hieroglyphics on the timer translate to "underworld." As opposed to All Die or something like that. I'm wondering if it's sea related instead of afterlife related.
Underworld? Isn't that where Persephone was supposed to spend half of her time?
the mythological one, not rachel
Maven - I'm seeing the TLE everywhere too. When I was out I passed a moving truck that said, "Moving you to a better tomorrow."
twinklestarmom: lol
Thanks for that link above to Season 3 stuff. The underworld translation is interesting. So different than what we thought, huh? Underworld means Hades or Hell to me!
Yeah, Persephone was in the underworld, taken from her mother to Hades, but that implies that Rachel knew something about that before this whole thing started.
Maybe confirming that Rachel was born on and/or spent part of her life on Dharma island?
Also there was a cable that went into the sea. Could that have gone to another station?
She definitely said that Alvar Hanso is real and I'M THE PROOF OF THAT. Confirms that link for me!
Underworld definitely ties into the mythology on the island...
Maybe the e-mail that Admin got means we should check the Bad Twin websites for more glyphs?
Maven...are you seeing anything in your copy of BadTwin? Looks like the first mention of Hanso is on page 31.
Where did the glyphs come into the fragment search today. I must have missed it.
TwinkleStarMom, yeah that was my theory too about the vaccine.
As for the time, well I thought of a reason why that wouldn't work although it's not airtight. Desmond has been on the island for longer then anyone else and
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He had met up with Libby before he set sale. Now if the number of days the Losties have been on the island works out to a couple of years of time outside the island, Desmond must have been away a long long time and aside from Libby having a different hair colour she doesn't look like she has aged. Not to mention that Mrs Widmore looked the same too (or not far different anyway). Oh yes and then there is Kelvin. How could he simultaniously be in Sayids flashback and have been on the island for so long while it was moving through time at a different rate?
The only way they could explain it is that time shifts happen only now and then, maybe only when there is an "incident". Perhaps it is actually only with the shutdown at the end of the season that time has sped up on the island, maybe that was what the sound was. Although it's a bit of an extreme measure just to explain the time difference between the TV show and the Arg. I very much doubt that is the case. I'm hoping they won't pull a big suspension of disbelief on us.
I suspect this is a red herring.
cool comicon vid..
i missed all the action. i was seeing lady in the water..
it seems pretty early for act 3, doesnt it?
Maven...on hansoexposed.com, look in instructions. glyphs there.
Been skimming through it, fasten...nothing yet. What do you think we should be looking for? I had highlighted things I thought were important, but it can be in another direction now.
Fenris, I'm in your boat on this one.
The vaccine can still be nanotech and/or DNA manipulation.
But without nano, where does that leave us on explaining the smoke monster? Or is that a topic for a different blog?
thanks, fasten. Understand NOW!
Do anyone want the audio (video?) for the full 1+ hour panel? Its got lots of great info about the show. The 3 min Rachel deal was really the only TLE related bit.
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Not sure. She said "the glyphs hold the codes" and gave two examples on hansoexposed. Somehow, BadTwin should lead us to a website ("I've hidden them everywhere on the web") and there may be a glyph. That's what I'm guessing.
Stelven: I used your youtube on the Timeline. Okay?
The only code I saw in Bad Twin was the gate code of 8 15 16 for the Widmore Estate on page 232. (The Twin's birthdays)
I wonder what exactly they said about nanobots.
TPTB said previously about nanobots - (Thanks, Kinetic, for the link.)
JGM said "red herring, at comicon damon said that the monster is not a cloud of nanites a la michael crichton's "prey"."
What was the nanobot monster like in Prey?
So what if it's another form on nanotechnology just not that form? It includes more than just miniature metal machines.
It seems that they are staying away from things that have been "done" so they are rejecting nanobots, cloning, and maybe others like time travel and plagues unleashed by evil masterminds. If we've heard of it being done before, I bet it's not that, at least not exactly.
Me too.
Wow, Admin. Seems the Bad Twin book has stuff hidden in it re exposing THF, not clues to the fragments. So glad I broke down and got a copy! What kind of dialect IS that?
We should have this thing wrapped up in a couple of hours, now that we got RBlake in direct communication. Think there are any clues in the text of that goop Admin sent her?
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