Lag Alleviation Part 2
We saw a commercial featuring Thomas Mittlewerk last night, he was encouraging us to have "spirited debate" about The Hanso Foundation. We also know that Hanso Exposed was updated late last night, but we still have no user id or password.
Keep the discussions from the previous post coming...
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First, I cheated!!
It's good to be the king!
Did Mit's have his ponytail in that video? I swear he looked a lot younger as well...
I think the hansoexposed site will come online today...perhaps RB will hack into it and help us help her...
Not for me? I still get id/pass....did you type something in?
lhorse - thanks for carrying my but on this, I did not have time to figure out how to hook my laptop to my DVR...it can be done...it looks simple...maybe later...thanks agian...
I agree that TM looked younger, but I think his ponytail just didn't have a chance to shine ;-) He didn't move around enough for it to swing out...
Wonder if Mittlewerk looked younger because of all that fresh blood he got... think he might have been into the hair dye too
I agree, the id and password for hanso EXPOSED would not come from that commercial...but I do think that RB will update us on how to access it today, or GG will tell her...
evil^^:
something I don't understand. It's a HANSO FONDATION Ad so why would they give us a login/password for a website where we probably will discuss on them beeing evil etc?
My theory on this is that hansoexposed could be one of those corporate sites that supposedly encourages open debate and has the appearance of transparency, but really is just PR. Sort of like when a cigarette company has a web site about quitting or preventing smoking. It's all for appearances.
thrasher: just had to say this. everytime I see some writing you've typed, I "hear" Optimus Prime!! hahaha
think about it. they want "open debate", so they can "monitor" stuff and quite possibly throw us off track!!
by the way, check again Kyle. Puffykins isn't really "Puffykins" anymore.
I'm sure it's probably some sort of accelerated clone or something.
this is how we have all the "bad twins" and a 105 year old Orangutan.
They continuously clone these creatures, so they can experiment on basically the "same subject" with many different things. Cures, diseases, etc.
To quote CeeLo from Gnarls Barkley: "just a thought".
lhorse: Exactly. On the surface it encourages "spitied debate" but, like chucklez3 said, they would rather have the debate on their turf so it can be monitored and controlled on their terms.
Of course this could all go out the window when we see what the site really is, but that's just one explanation for why Hanso could be sponsoring the hansoexposed site.
wow, could've sworn I just said all that (lhorse and evil^^).
hey, thanks Christy. wasn't sure for a minute there, everyone could "see" me. hahaha
but it would also give them an opportunity to "manipulate" our "views" about the foundation.
They will most surely have people "planted" in the forums.
when everyone gets posting at the same time chucklez, sometimes it looks like people are being overlooked.
we've got nothing but love for ya!
Just for Chucklez3 -
One shalll stand one shall fall, Megatron must be stopped, no matter the cost.
que -You've got the Touch music
Autobots! Transform and roll out!
eh.....no biggie. i usually don't post over here, I tend to spend most of my time over at the "stophanso.rachelblake" blog, etc. sharing thoughts.
speaking of which, think i'll scurry over and see what's happening.
good "chatting".
thrasher: that movie rocked!
Ultra Magnus: "open........DAMMIT, OPEN!!"
I think I nearly swallowed my gum (I was like 11 at the time, I believe).
Freakin' classic film!! Jazz was always my favorite. Well, and Starscream.
My top 5:
Jazz, Starscream, Soundwave, Braun (deceased) and Blurr
Did any of you guys think Mittlewerks face looked all tight, like he's had a ton of surgery & facelifts?
Light our darkest hour!
Great Movie, I hated Prime dying in the first 20 minutes....
it's either old (doubt it) or a clone.
I'm sticking with my "clone" theory.
Hell, Braun got "waxed" super-quick!! And supposedly, they had him as one of the STRONGEST, if not THE strongest!!
I'm still waiting on a live-action G.I Joe film, too. Snakeyes, man!!
Amber - I think he looked awfully young!!
Top 5 for Chicklez - 1.Optimus Prime, 2.Megatron, 3.Soundwave, 4.Grimlock, 5.Starscream
Back to the subject...There has to be some kind of development today...
okay, off to the stophanso blog for sure this time.
be in and out throughout the day, thrasher.
love talking about this stuff, but don't want to "annoy" the other anti-hansites
good morning all. so the big reveal on last night's commercial was that thf has no love for haters and wants a "spirited debate" to discuss how great they are? anyone else think maybe hansoexposed.com is where rachel will put the dvd she gets from gidget?
Hello,
If THF wants us to have a spirited debate they will have to say where and when. And if the locattion of such debate will be the internet they will open their site again!!!
You know, the new Hanso commercial could have been shot a while back, but it seemed to have a pretty direct, timely message.
Important enough to take some time off from carrying out SPIDER PROTOCOL.
Did anyone get the video on youtube?
And sorry guys, but mittlewerk will never granted us a password for a site that is against THF, don't you think?
He looks just like my old orthadontist.. ponytail at all, and he was a jerk too. :P
sunbruise, lhorse posted them above. Same add, slightly different quality
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCGd9XiPXzE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwYW9XBTHoA
I wonder if the people of TLEC have had some secret information (besides the phonecall), for instant that the 'Hanso Exposed' site is true. It would be a smart thing to do from TPTB because if the moderators (is that the right term?) of TLEC have info, they can tell us if something is true or not :)
What do you guys think?
and Lostpedia is still off!! (or is it just my computer?)
Scott - The Powers That Be
I had that question too when I just came here :) No stupid question!
btw, I saw this sat the hansoexposed thing:
Apache/2.0.52 (Red Hat) Server at hansoexposed.com Port 80
Maibe Red Hat is a user?
Mittlewerk limps a little don't you think?
Annabeth - I can tell you that we get no insider information what so ever. The phone call was added to the previous post as a joke, because we have mainly fake phone calls on the podcast, some are real. We are playing the game just like you. There is nothing we get that is inside info. we email speaker and get replies just like everyone else. I hope that clears things up.
Hi all... Just wanted to add my 2 cents...
People have commented that it's not likely that we would get a password to a site that would be anti-Hanso from a Hanso commercial, but just a thought...
Hasn't Rachel appropriated other things as PWs before? allveggie, falsedegree, etc. It wouldn't be so far fetched that she saw the commercial and thought that spirited debate would be a good thing to use as a PW...
Annebeth - I think the system is Redhat Linux .. I think.
experimental: rachel gave us "falsedesgree" right in her post
We are also assuming hansoexposed refers to the "revealing the guilt or wrongdoing" definition of exposed. That word can also be defined as "to make visible." Perhaps THF is creating that site in an attempt to demonstrate their openness and transparency. Or at least supply us with that illusion.
Oxillini is right, and all that could be possible if she has at least watched the commercial. What we don't know yet, and if she will, she will watch through the Internet since she is way to Paris.
This is probably nothing but could someone with better eyes than mine take a look at the Hanso Foundation logo at the end of the commercial?
I saw something below it last night when it first aired and again on YouTube. It could be meant as a reflection of the word "Foundation" but my vision shows me a blur.
Thanks!
Looks like reflection to me, just as you said, barbarajay.
Also, we think falsedegree may be a reference to Mittelverk never having gotten a degree from Cal Tech. Refer to clue #29 on our site, experimentalfilm.
falsedegree from Rachel referred to Mittlewerk having no real degree that anyone can find...
Sorry, that ^^^ was in reference to experimental!
BarbaraJay, I noticed the blur as well. After watching the commercial on YouTube again, it appears to be a reflection of Foundation.
So...I'll admit it, between losing power THREE times last night/today I did not read through all 800+ comments from the previous thread, but I did read all here. Was there really anything to all of TLE sites having problems yesterday or was that all along the lines of the mysterious phone call?
@Administrator
Any progress on THE email?
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7/12/2006 11:59:19 PM)
I too want to know about this E-mail that Administrator got from Persephone saying she was kidnapped. Is it a fake or what???
Mittlewerk said they invite us to talk to them, but how? The Hanso site isn't up...yet
ryan--the answer to that question has been debated for about 12 hours...not enough evidence to conclude either way
Morning all. I, too, an interested if anything more happened with the email...
With hansoexposed.com getting updated per the monitor site: I still get the login box. Perhaps they were making it more secure because it's not supposed to be accessed yet and they were getting nervous about us getting in there.
I think the u/n and p/w has to be rblake and something related to Mittelwerk...if Rachel is still with us...
the email is probably fake. if it was real, we would all know about it. rachel would send a secret transmission, or something.
but if rachel is in a state of emergency, would she be able to respond with such haste?
Just be careful on what you beleive on Rachael's Blog from now on till we get confirmation...
Also, THF means no harm...
Thanks, YW and David. I was hoping there was more to the commercial.
If Mittelwerk is supposedly on the Helgus Antonius going whereever...when was this commercial filmed? (In real life probably a long time ago.) But in this game...he talk about discussion so much, it seems to me that it has to be pretty recently because there has been so much doubt, badmouthing of THF, and pretty good theories out there. I think THF is getting nervous that some of our ideas might be getting pretty close to what is going on and this "PR" move is trying to throw us off.
I thought Mittelwork was not on that boat?
ryan-Mittlewerk was not in the car going to the airport...he was on the boat.
I fooled around with Dr. Z earlier, but he didn't seem to want to answer anything unrelated to quality Daimler-Chysler products...
GOOD MORNING!
zoolander-I thought the same thing last night about Dr. Z. Although I am looking more closely at SPAM mails too since playing this game...everything seems suspicious now.
Ange, I thought it was the other way around, sorry...But you are right.
Seems quite right now. Usually you guys are posting a storm. I guess we are all waiting for this PACKAGE...
After gathering all the information posted in the last comments thread and taking some time to process it, I have come to the conclusion that the persephone@thehansofoundation.org email we received is fake...and techinally saavy hoax that wasn't executed to perfection.
I'll let you know if anything else comes of it but for now I'm not going to worry myself much more about it.
If you're curious, you can search through (ctrl F) the comments thread on the last post. Basically we received a real-looking email from someone claiming to be Persephone. It turned out to be somebody working really hard to mess with us.
Gotta go...meetings.
Dr. Z is a cartoon version of the real president of Daimler-Chrysler. He's on their TV commercials in person.
Too bad about the e-mail hoax...I thought the TLE ball was rolling again...
Even if the email was a hoax...I'm still saying the THF is messing with our minds, trying to make us not trust anyone but them...
I agree maven. I woke up this morning feeling like THF was going to be monitoring our spirited debates today.
Weezknight,
I just think some of those "Active Projects" THF had were mind-blowing and could help out a lot of problems.
Now, maybe the way the new leadership has taken things is a little screwy, I just think we need to find Alvar and restore what they had going...
Down with Mittelwerk!!!
Oh my god! Where is RoT guys? Kidnaped?
Dr. Z is funny because that's how Daimler-Chrsylser wants to portray him. Put a funnier face on the stern German board of directors keeping Chrysler afloat. THF should take a lesson from them.
Has anybody seen any of the ROT people on AIM. I do not have this, just wondering...
lostforwords: interesting story. that article is from 2000. i wonder if tptb read it?
I haven't seen them on AIM in 1-2 weeks, but I am not on AIM very often (except to look for ROT)
Very strange, this is all part of the game. They are all being "silenced" and we could see some of our fellow bloggers disapear as well.
For example WHERE IS ANTECEDENT???
yeah, antecedent disapeared, and I haven't seen him on in at leat 3 weeks, if not more.
I think the mittlewerk commercial will airs here in portugal on sunday, after the lost episode! I will be watching!
i think maven was going to email him/her to see if everything's ok. any response maven?
Was team Lena out of town, or did they get to them as well??
I'm so Scared..
*looks around the room*
ryan and noble-I use AOL and have it on all the time. There have been no signs of the ROT guys, and I just checked their profiles...the little picture they all had is gone. Don't think they'll be on anytime soon...I plan to IM them plenty if they do though.
I did email him and he's still in a lot of pain awaiting wisdom teeth out next week. He's lurking around. Check out the research blog. He's posting the beginnings of an ACT 2 Summary.
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maven: good to hear he's still around. sorry to hear about the wisdom teeth. those are no fun!
I am removing the earlier comment and replacing with this:
chaserrace-click the Log in on that site you posted. It takes you here:http://alliedcopenhagenmarinemerchants.com/loginwarning.htm
Very silly!
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maven-see above...I got all excited too, until I just clicked log in for fun.Pretty sure it's a fansite. Silly bus picture and all:)
alas, allied's website above looks out of game. not registered like the in-game sites at all.
Yeah, I deleted my comment after looking at that silly warning page. We're so anxious for anything...
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Re: Where's Team Lena? I think she's have connection problems and has to deal with dial-up now! I'm sure they're lurking about somewhere!
Gotta go for a few, be back later. Have fun all!
Thank goodness maven:) I was beginning to think I suddenly turned invisible! People...if you click the log in on allied copenhagen...without a password/un it takes you to a page that says they took a picture of you and are going to post it where people can see it, followed by a pic. of TM on the back of a bus, followed by the statement "Go back to work!" I'd say fansite!
I think we'll see the RoT guys (aka Verizon guys) again ... we seem to rotate through corporate sites to keep THF confused about where to find Rachel's latest intel (am ignoring the commericial reasons for purposes of enjoying the game).
But cancer-curing and life-extending ... is THF really all that bad? (Totally ignoring the fact that THF sends goons to young women's hotel rooms to search through their stuff.)
We'd better brush off our game hats ... Rachel's probably going to ask for help solving the code GidgetGirl alluded to in yesterday's phone call.
Songbird61 <-- Joop Lives!
Haven't seen RoT in a while, either.
So are we supposed to take the bus' advice?
LOL young wallace-you know as soon as folks go back to work SOMETHING will happen!
that site was probably put together by some fan's employer - trying to coerce them to work
what if i tried to get into that allied website and they took my picture but i wasn't ready, my eyes were closed. should i try to get in again so they'll have a better picture for the bus?
What is the message on the back of the bus?
omni - I am not computer literate to understand what you mean by .swf, but will take your word for it. guess that means that some progress/updating of that site is in progress and we will hopefully will get the password/username from GidgetGirl (I think this will be a gidgetgirl website)
minnesota-I tried to read it, but it was too blurry when I zoomed in. It lookes aomething like: Don't be caught hacking ACMM.
Hmm...thanks ange!
thanks omni - I learn more playing this game everyday!
jack, i had a similar thought. the u/n and p/w could be for tptb to go in and make changes to the site without worrying about us getting in.
and rb's site asked you for your date of birth before you got in.
the subdirectory in the hansoexposed website was hereticms according to kinetic. maybe ms is our new rb. hmm..... m____ s____.
good morning everyone, I see everyone is still here.
it looks like mittlewerk is wearing makeup in that commercial!
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I am sure that he is Christine#2, ti would be unusual for any actor on t.v. not to wear make-up. I am sure that "Dr. Z" is wearing make-up in the Chrysler commercials too
I agree christine2-everyone was commenting about him looking "younger" in the commercial. I think it's just good make-up and lighting. Seriously, we've all seen those starts w/o their make-up pictures before...yikes. I think it's the same theory here...make-up + lighting=TM looks better.
I think TWM still had his ponytail, or at least that there was on way in the commercial to tell whether he did or did not have it since he didn't turn his head much or show his back. I have known a couple of guys who had long ponytails but from the front looked like they had regular haircuts. was kind of shocking when they turned around and then you could see a long ponytail down their back
so do you guys believe that spirited debate is going to be a password at some point?
omniscient/noble-I agree about the pony tail too! I didn't even know he had one until Rachel's video, and his picture was up on THF site the whole time. I think it was just laying straight down his back.
Christine#2 - I wonder how much Mittlewerk would pay a make-up person, I bet he wears it all the time like Ryan Seacrest. Cha-ching!
yes, he still has his ponytail. look at the way his hair is parted on his head, and then looks tied back. He is still sporting it!
this was mittelwerks first appearance on national television. im sure he did whatever he can to make himself look better.
and they probably hid the ponytail in the commercial so people outside the game wouldnt start thinking "whos the freak with the ponytail?"
ok look at my avatar, someone forgot to do his makeup that day!
Glad the email thing was cleared up. If you see Belly, David, Young Wallace or me disappear be very affraid!!!
yeah I bet something happened to them. Hey I was on last night, and administrator said he got a weird email. did anything come of this?
we think alike thrasher, so it was a fake?
I think it is between 5-6pm in paris now..
Dazzedelf- I'm wondering if anyone else thinks that ROT may have served their purpose...and maybe now are switching over to their Mandrake Wig creation to communicate. People are still getting messages from him through MySpace. If I were the ROT guys, I would be nervous about the wrath of the players after the whole SPIDER protocol memo, useless week of word finding only to have the like GIVEN to us fiasco. Also, none of them have been on AIM and the pictures that they all had in their profiles is gone.
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maybe rachel is posting the "package" up on hansoexposed! I hope soon...
didnt Wally Bole say in his email that he would be making television appearences?
FYI, I'm a MySpacer, and just noticed that Mandrake Wig is online right now. He doesn't accept MySpace chat invitations, so I sent him a message. We'll see ...
Songbird61 <--ever vigilant
oh great.....
I have a space on my space, got it for the game, but can't remember how to access it, so no idea what is going on with that.
I'm messaging Manny too, nothing as of yet.
common Manny, give us a clue!
im leaving. im leaving tomorrow afternoon for a week. i have a lot to do to get ready.
The RoT gang has not been on AIM in over a week. I am on all day long! I guess we can all get back to our regular lives for the moment!! LOL yeah right!
Ange: Yeah I think we completly forgot Mandrake and could be clues in myspace.
I don't MySpace, but it would be GREAT if people could post/continue posting their correspondences with Manny as they come:)
Keep in mind the myspace.com/beezlebuba account for future clues...The display name is HeretiC and seems to be a new account...Could be setting something up for the future, if only a UN/PW (beezlebuba).
Manny's off MySpace.
Mandrake Wig just logged off ... and no reply from him.
Songbird61 <--waiting, and waiting ...
i wonder if beezlebuba is an anagram.
nope not an anagram
about rot, how'd they get that three layer document anyway? why would a group of verizon network geeks have a sensitive thf document?
Oh sorry! It's myspace.com/beelzebuba
It's getting late here in Japan...
lets just hope hansoexposed is not a buch of naked pictures of mittlewerk and his cronies! ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beelzebub
Could be way off-base but thought I'd throw it out there.
christine#2: that would be truly evil.
well Cuse DID promise more sex in season 3, LOL
I like you more and more Christine#2 :P
Jewels - Really? Is it taped? I'm going to have to take another look.
However Garthazoid is always on line on AIM, but never ever talks to me....what should I ask him?
thanks Amber!
amber-is it just me or have you changed your avatar since a few min. ago?
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I second that thrasher...
Ange - Yeah I have, just some kidding around on the Rachel blog..
I'm off to lunch, don't nobody let nuthin happen. (Double, even triple negative! So I'm now not sure what that really means.)
Uggh..the testosterone in here today:)!
ange--I think we're all getting antsy postulating ourselves in circles. Someone give us something!
Didn't mean it in a mean way guys...hence the smiley:)<---- I was just saying...sarcasm and computers don't mix, why do I never learn that.
Sorry, I started this, going to delete that last post. It was insensitive of me!
i think it's too late thrasher, it's already begun.
every girl likes a compliment.
Oh, well some guy on the numbers forum says this.. which is kind of interesting:
Last stuff I saw on "hansoexposed" dir was really interesting. All password protected, but lots of files like flash animations and php pages..
On the "heretimircms" subdomain (heretimircms.hansoexposed.com) they were testing some sort of "flash video player"; later they moved (or deleted, IDK) the files.
OMG-seriously...I was just being sarcastic!
!!!
Manny speaks! Lucky you dtm.
so Rot is back in the game....
thanks for posting that info. damn the man
Any other MySpacers get a message from Manny?
not me ange (figured out the myspace thingy)
i really hope we don't have to wait til the new rot clue tomorrow for something to happen. what is it with abc, start something new, get everyone super-excited about it, take a hiatus, drain the momentum. do they never learn?
this calls for a poem...
ROT ROT where have you been,
not seeing you has been quite a sin,
I hope your ok, I hope your alright,
but give us the clue early,
and not late at night!
No Manny from me...I guess you have to engage him on his level...ACTION FIGURES!
minnesotawriter: How did you find the account in the first place? Through the anagram
heretimircms > I'm Mrs Heretics?
The Beelzebub > Lord of the Flies reference obviously has a resonance in the Lost context.
Interesting alright.
I REALLY hope that ROT does have something and not more cryptic mumbo jumbo, and wild goose chases. Maybe they are hosting a video (one from the mysterious Paris package), or maybe that DVD that was mentioned in R's beach conversation.
i would give anything,anything to see that video of alvar!!!!!!
i bet the dvd is Evil CEO's Gone Wild! Mittelwerk will stop at nothing to keep this from getting out. His mother would be so ashamed.
Argh...I got a message from Manny this morning, but my draconian company blocks access to myspace so I can't check it. I'll post it this evening if it's at all relevant.
I thought this was worth a mention...I periodically Amazon.com for things like the DVD Rachel mentioned, Gary Troup interviews, etc. Last week I searched for The Valenzetti Equation, and rather than the usual "results not found" I got this:
The Valenzetti Equation is "mysteriously out of print." Would you like to view Gary Troup's *second book*: Bad Twin ?check
oodles: I found that MySpace from that HansoExposed videoplayer which went offline now. The link was hereticms.hansoexposed.com/videoplayer.swf
I forget who, but someone suggested that the final the ms following heretic could be a myspace...I searched and found myspace.com/beelzebuba--It's an empty myspace so I thought it could turn something up, or maybe beelzebuba itself could be used for a clue later on...
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edude, when Rachel posted about the conversation of "execs on beach" Mittlewerk told Peter Thompson that he could watch the DVD of Alvar Hanso talking about the valenzetti equation
It was oxillini that pointed me toward beelzebuba...Arigato
My first post in the comments. Joy! I'm bigger on the Frappr map but people don't go on that very often. You know it's an old theory that Rachel is Hanso's daughter but what if she's Mittelwerk's daugther? Of maybe even Hugh's daughter! And now she has a grudge against him for having a girl on the side!
did anyone re-send their email to the ROT? is it the same message about the polar bear??
MAC - Hilarious!!! EM box!!!
DTM - Awesome screen shot, looks like those weirdos are going to give us more cryptic nonsense!!! I love it!!! Face those two dudes look strange!!! Creepy as my fiancee would say!!!
frogurt, we still have no idea of who Rachel really is, we know she worked for Widmore, and that Mittlewerk recognized her, her mother is dead, and no mention of her daddy. So who kknows
Hi LostinFrogurt *waves*. I see you on the board a lot...nice to see you here too!
Frogurt-Admin here thinks that Rachel might be the daughter of the Degroots (they talked at length about it in the podcast)...that's another theory.
christine: Yeah, but think about it. She was rather reluctant to take down HM's pictures.
ange: Nice to know you read my thread. Is your board name different? Have you ever posted?
Just for fun, I'm listening to a loop of Crazy by Gnarls Barkley. Third time so far. I'm seeing how long it'll take to drive me insane. Fun experiment.
lostinfrogurt - you are indeed huge on Frappr!!! j/k Good to see you on here finally!
Frogurt-my board name (TLEC message board that is) is the same and yeah I've posted..a lot...I'm up to the rank Locke's Lock Service (they just get weirder). Still can't get on Frapper...crashed the internet every time!
hey did anyone ever check out that "six degrees" thing on the commercial last night? it had alot of references to lost, IE island, fate, connections between people....
No, I mean on my thread, sorry for the confusion. You're missing out on frappr!
lexis, its under one of the clue posts on TLEC page.
christine, yeah Lost is restarting on October 4th then in February, it's taking a 3 month break in which 6 degrees will be on wednesdays at nine o clock. I really want to watch it! It's about how although they don't know each other, they do little things that snowball to cause bigger things. Imagining an example, one person is sick, has a mug of coffee, sips it, sets it down, leaves. Next person comes in, is thirsty, takes a sip of the coffee, get sick, misses work and at work the place burns down. So the first person, unknowingly saved the second. That's how I think it'll go down like.
lexis-Try here...Timmy C AUS from the message board has mirrored it (It's still quicktime though).
http://downloads.reazn.net/timmyc/GidgetPhoneCall_direct.mp3
Hm. it hasn't driven me insane yet, but my brother has asked multiple times for me to turn it off.
omni--No, I'm born and raised in good ol' Minnesota. I moved to Osaka last year to teach our beloved language. Japanese culture is beautiful, a day in Kyoto is worth a dozen haiku poems. I recommend to all interested a move/visit to these shores...
They just puored a bunch of make-up on him. He looked so pretty...
Nothing like Christine#2's pic...LOL
jpike everyone has been saying that.
Was told to post this over here after I posted it on RB's blog=)
Long time watcher, first time blogger. I used voiceprint program to analyze the voices on the recording. Turns out that there is a 91% probability that GG has the same voice as Hanso's PA. Just a thought...
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