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Clue #122 - Fragment Codes "Narvik", "OUDW" & "307L97BDB9"

Fragment Code, "NARVIK" was found on monster.com. If you take the poll on monster's front page and click results, you'll see a banner ad for Narvik Travel which links to hansoexposed.com. The video fragment is of Mittelwerk saying, "We have tried to change those values by manipulating the environment in many, many ways."

Fragment Code, "OUDW" was found on an old post on Lost Ninja's blog. If you click the link in his blog that says "Snakes on a Plane" it takes you to the new glyph and code. (We're not sure yet how anyone knew to look there). The video fragment is of Mittlewerk saying, "We need not take any more lives than is absolutely necessary. Yes?"

Fragment Code, "307L97BDB9" was found at Rachel's Blog. Click on the number 57 under links and it takes you to this picture . The code is found by putting together the flashing letters and numbers. The video fragment is of Mittlewerk saying, "...and the bodies of the dead must be brought to this station immediately for full genetic workup."

Stay up to date with your hansoexposed.com fragment codes by visiting Matt the Pale's Fragment Code List.

Thanks to Tresbien, Marcus, Chewie, Sara, Donn, & The Lost Bird for emailing us about these codes!

399 Comments:

Blogger Dazzedelf said...

HOoray for new thread goodness!

8/30/2006 07:33:00 AM  
Blogger dixxee said...

Yeah.. all this excitement this morning!!! hope today is fun filled... gotta distract me from the real world somehow :)

8/30/2006 07:33:00 AM  
Blogger nardo2k said...

poop

8/30/2006 07:33:00 AM  
Blogger Sam said...

Yay. :)

8/30/2006 07:34:00 AM  
Blogger void said...

Everybody sleeping? =P

8/30/2006 07:34:00 AM  
Blogger Dazzedelf said...

maybe we'll get those last 14 glyphs today.

Nardo2k, you might wanna put that in a baggie before someone steps in it and tracks it everywhere.

8/30/2006 07:34:00 AM  
Blogger dixxee said...

sleeping? I wish!

8/30/2006 07:34:00 AM  
Blogger leolio said...

top who knows?

8/30/2006 07:35:00 AM  
Blogger Dazzedelf said...

Oh How I would love to still be in bed asleep. Unfortunately they don't pay me if i do that.

8/30/2006 07:35:00 AM  
Blogger Sam said...

Yeah, I assume we'll get the last of the glyphs within the week.

8/30/2006 07:35:00 AM  
Blogger Kenshiro2012 said...

good morning everyone. I agree I wouldlove to see the last 14 glyphs released so that we can finally get this video put together.

8/30/2006 07:36:00 AM  
Blogger Dazzedelf said...

I wouldn't assume that Sam. I'm not expecting them to release all the glyphs until the end of next week. They have never done 17 in one week and that's what we needed on Monday.

8/30/2006 07:37:00 AM  
Blogger stacey said...

Summary of how 'oudw' was found: Ninja posted a clue on his blog:

In ITE profiles #2
search for a mutant totally blue
posted by hanso_ninja on Aug 30 01:55pm

Cadfile found this on ITE, matching "Hank McCoy" to The Beast [totally blue mutant]:

Once upon a post Ninja went to Church.
But slithery reptiles hindered his search.

Posted by: Hank McCoy | August 23, 2006 at 08:54 PM

And Frosty and Matt the Pale found the glyph on Ninja's 07/31 blog; click on "Snakes on a Plane" and there it is.

-- stacey [aka tiredcynic]

8/30/2006 07:43:00 AM  
Blogger Bigdog said...

Awesome about time they update this site but but anyways congrats to whoevever found the glyph offically

8/30/2006 07:50:00 AM  
Blogger Dazzedelf said...

I found the glpyh a different way.

Went to sleep before glyph was released
Wake up and drive to work
Check tlec comments.
copy/paste glyph
Done!

8/30/2006 07:55:00 AM  
Blogger dixxee said...

Yeah.. me too Dazzed... That is my method also :) Too difficult to think this early in the AM for me :).. need more COFFEE....

8/30/2006 07:58:00 AM  
Blogger dixxee said...

ok.. so appears it is too early for others as well :)

8/30/2006 08:02:00 AM  
Blogger Dazzedelf said...

We're the old people who get up early dixxee, and a lot of schools openned up today.

8/30/2006 08:05:00 AM  
Blogger stacey said...

dazzed and dixxee -- I hear you. I try to follow the clues, but it seems I always need to get up from the computer just when something comes up. And if I *do* happen to be there when a clue comes, it's one I can't get. So I'll sit back, admire the effort folks put into it, and plug the fruits of their labours into HE... :^)

8/30/2006 08:05:00 AM  
Blogger dixxee said...

My kids went back last week... the youngest started middle school this year, so they all have to be at the bus stop at the same time... Of course that is the same time we are trying to get ready for work, so 5 people and 1 bathroom is not a good thing. Gonna cost us about $6000 to put in a 2nd bathroom... so for now we get up even earlier to get ready..... Feeling very old at the young age of 34...LOL

8/30/2006 08:08:00 AM  
Blogger ular98 said...

I have been up since 6:00, sitting here trying to track down the new frags. with the directions. I still can't get to the ninja one, but I gave up. Not worth the effort on my poor old brain at this hour.

8/30/2006 08:13:00 AM  
Blogger ib4uc said...

When did monster.com change? I was checking all yesterday and it still directed us to TropicsTravel. Oh well... congrats on finding the 2 newest glyphs!

8/30/2006 08:13:00 AM  
Blogger ular98 said...

I wasted a lot of time yesterday, going over and over monster. I got so frustrated I decided I really needed a break from the computer and the arg. I got off at 3:00 and didn't turn it back on until this AM.

8/30/2006 08:16:00 AM  
Blogger Dazzedelf said...

Monster changed sometime yesterday evening. There are instructions in this thread for accessing the Ninja glyph, there are also instructions on Matt The Pale's website. Hoping for some new ones today. about 5 -10 codes would satisfy me.

8/30/2006 08:17:00 AM  
Blogger ib4uc said...

I'm with ya dazzed. Bring 'em on!

8/30/2006 08:20:00 AM  
Blogger dixxee said...

or 14 would do.. finish this video and start trying to figure out the candy bar deal.. move on to something new...

8/30/2006 08:20:00 AM  
Blogger goingdark! said...

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k316/insidetheexperience/OUDW.jpg

thats the link to the glyph. good work guys and gals.

who edited the order of the vid on lostpedia, it well doesnt seem to fit at all?

8/30/2006 08:21:00 AM  
Blogger stacey said...

ular98 -- Here are the URLs for the Ninja one [I needed to track it down too...I know the feeling]:

1. Ninja clue on his blog, comment #38:
http://au.blogs.yahoo.com/lostninja/7590/i-got-your-apollo-news-right-here?page=4

2. ITE Profiles #2, search for "Hank McCoy" [aka "The Beast"]:
http://www.insidetheexperience.com/2006/08/ite_profiles_2.html

3. Ninja's 07/31 blog on which the glyph is located [find the "Snakes on a Plane" link]:
http://au.blogs.yahoo.com/lostninja/6042/glyphs-boats-planes-snakes-the-list

4. The glyph itself:
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k316/insidetheexperience/OUDW.jpg

8/30/2006 08:22:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Morning TLEC!! I also go to sleep wake up, drive to work, check TLEC copy and paste codes!! Makes me wish it was the begining of the game when I could actually find stuff on my own!! Meh....at least this phase is almost over....

8/30/2006 08:23:00 AM  
Blogger goingdark! said...

my bad, wasnt acounting for gaps. soz

8/30/2006 08:24:00 AM  
Blogger stacey said...

The Ninja glyph was the closest I've come to finding one...I saw Ninja's comment and posted it to the group on ITE. I searched for blue mutants [The Tick, Beast, Mystique], but just couldn't get my fuzzy brain to make the leap to their "real" names [darn it]. Then MtP, Cadfile, and Frosty were off and running...Frosty posted the code to everyone, sharing it with the world since he was already on the leaderboard.

So now it's back to 'read the thread, copy, paste'...the far more time-efficient way to do it. :^)

8/30/2006 08:26:00 AM  
Blogger Dazzedelf said...

It's ok Thrasher I understand. The only thing I ever found on my own, was a hidden mp3 for Rachel Blake audio. And the sad thing was I listened to it after everyone else because mp3s are banned at my job.

8/30/2006 08:27:00 AM  
Blogger Young Wallace said...

Howdy y'all. I pretty much stopped entering codes for myself a while back and am completely relying on y'all to put the video together for me. Basically whenever I was having trouble saving my sequence, I realized all I was using if for was to watch the latest snippet. Too much hassle to wait through the intro and loading all the glyphs to watch a 2 second clip out of context. Good job everyone finding glyphs, some of us are hopeless without ya!

8/30/2006 08:27:00 AM  
Blogger k.barrick said...

Yep, I agree that this section probably isn't going to end until next week.

And me no like that.

8/30/2006 08:28:00 AM  
Blogger Dazzedelf said...

I enjoy doing the video editing to put it all together, that's a fun little puzzle, I just hate the glyph hunt, i think they should have released all 70 at once and just made it a hunt to find them all.

8/30/2006 08:30:00 AM  
Blogger dixxee said...

I agree dazzed... Just release them already... LOL... gimme gimme gimme.... hehe

8/30/2006 08:32:00 AM  
Blogger noblelawyer said...

I agree dazzedelf. would make more sense game wise too to do that. Because it doesn't make sense releasing them slowly because what if Rachel got caught before she let out all the pieces? A REAL spy would have hidden all the pieces in different places at one time.

8/30/2006 08:32:00 AM  
Blogger goingdark! said...

this stage of the game is well dragging itself out. its like watching a rubbish film, but wanting to see what the end is like coz u have already seen the first hour. i love the game dont get me wrong but the most interesting thing to happen in the last month is getting a free chocolate bar.

the next stage i hope will go back to its roots. maybe THF.org will go back up? what ever it is i reaslly hope it more interesting than this glyph hunt.

8/30/2006 08:32:00 AM  
Blogger goingdark! said...

i agree with noble and dazzed

8/30/2006 08:33:00 AM  
Blogger stacey said...

young wallace -- Check out Matt the Pale's site [xhttp://members.aol.com/mattthepale/]. He has links to some awesome tools for tracking glyphs, backing up your sequence, and downloading the clips to your local machine to play [http://members.aol.com/mattthepale/fragtools.html]. Makes it a lot easier to follow along...

8/30/2006 08:34:00 AM  
Blogger stacey said...

[Oops...typo in MtP site, ignore the 'x' in front of the URL.]

I wish more of the glyphs had universally easy-to-follow clues. The real world ones are cool, but pretty limiting as to who can find them.

8/30/2006 08:35:00 AM  
Blogger stacey said...

Speaking of ixalon's tools on MtP's page, it shows a new glyph has been released!

http://www.se-nse.net/ixalon/codes.php

8/30/2006 08:37:00 AM  
Blogger ular98 said...

TY Stacey....I was on that page looking, dummy me didn't click on the Snakes url.

8/30/2006 08:37:00 AM  
Blogger Dazzedelf said...

EEP!!!

8/30/2006 08:38:00 AM  
Blogger goingdark! said...

let the hunt begin.

8/30/2006 08:39:00 AM  
Blogger stacey said...

Very welcome, ular! Now we've got a new glyph released, so the fun can start all over again...

8/30/2006 08:39:00 AM  
Blogger Young Wallace said...

The problem with releasing all the glyphs at once is what if they all got found in 4 days. That would essentially mean that we would have had the whole video since July 30 or so, and this portion of the game would be over. If they didn't have anything planned again til September 1, what could they have done? Just wait it out? They're just trying to keep the game on schedule. This is certainly better than waiting around a month for Act IV to start...

8/30/2006 08:41:00 AM  
Blogger goingdark! said...

no i think id rather wait a month thisn is kinda boring. there is a major lack of story, and where did the hunts go. one thing use to lead to another now its just "its out find it"

8/30/2006 08:44:00 AM  
Blogger Twinkle said...

I didn't check the last comment thread but anybody track down the meaning behind Narvik?

8/30/2006 08:47:00 AM  
Blogger ib4uc said...

latest glyph found and published.

8/30/2006 08:52:00 AM  
Blogger stacey said...

Well, looks like #57 was already found...now to see who has it...

http://www.hansoexposed.com/xml/statistics

8/30/2006 08:52:00 AM  
Blogger Beth said...

Morning all! I can rest easy now that I got an Apollo Bar (my pictures up on whereisalvar.com under PrincessBuddha. It seems tapdawg was stalking me as his picture was taken at almost the exact same spot as mine. LOL!) despite the SNAFUs at the distrabution.

Yeah! New glyphs! Are we done yet? :o)

8/30/2006 08:54:00 AM  
Blogger Young Wallace said...

that was quick

8/30/2006 08:54:00 AM  
Blogger Dennis said...

Twinkle said...

I didn't check the last comment thread but anybody track down the meaning behind Narvik?

Narvik is a port town in Norway. A few WWII battles took place there.

8/30/2006 08:57:00 AM  
Blogger stacey said...

beth -- Great pic! And that's hilarious about the location...I noticed it, but assumed that you were taking the pic for him, and vice versa. :^)

Only 21 days until San Francisco gets our Apollo bars...here's hoping the distribution troubles are smoothed out by then.

8/30/2006 08:58:00 AM  
Blogger The Lost Bird said...

Anyone find where whoever post #57?

8/30/2006 08:59:00 AM  
Blogger stacey said...

I haven't seen anything yet, lost bird...whoever it was, they found it within nine minutes of it being released. Hope they share it with us soon...the faster these last 13 clips go, the better.

8/30/2006 09:02:00 AM  
Blogger MakoMK said...

307L97BDB9

8/30/2006 09:02:00 AM  
Blogger The Lost Bird said...

#57 is 307L97BDB9

8/30/2006 09:02:00 AM  
Blogger Twinkle said...

Dennis, thanks! Lospedia also says Narvik has been seen before in Lost. (see below)

If you check all the named glyphs we've gotten, they all tie into what's happening somehow.

28. nanite - bioengineered virus

Quote-"Our operatives at the VIK Institute have verified this figure."


36. tribalwars - "use of our population model
to predict the growth of your tribal enemies -- especially if you intend on using our predictions to launch a pre-emptive strike" - http://lostpedia.com/wiki/The_Lost_Experience_clues/May_30

Quote-"Alvar Hanso"


38. chocolates - Apollo bars

Quotes-"Whether through nuclear fire, chemical and biological warfare, conventional warfare, pandemic, overpopulation..."


44. vaccine - TVM's mysterious proprietary vaccine

Quote-"Broadcasting in a frequency and encryption known only to us." (referring to the numbers which the vaccine in LostTV is labeled with)


45. theflashlight - referring to Rachel's "flashlight" post on her blog - That was the one where the Vik institute burned and Malik got hit on the head with an iron

Quote-"Without allowing for anymore suffering than is absolutely necessary."


53. tropics - Sri Lanka is in the tropics

Quote-"They think they're infected with a virus carried by local macaques."


54. narvik - Narvik is a port city in Norway that is the real world location of a building depicted in the Swan Orientation Film. - http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Narvik

Quote-"We have tried to change those values by manipulating the environment in many, many ways."


Any theories on how these all fit together? What about the numbers for each of these clues or how the dialogue in the corresponding video might shed light on the word code chosen?

8/30/2006 09:03:00 AM  
Blogger stacey said...

Nightcrawler posted this to ITE about number 57:

-----
This was found on the stop hanso site
http://stophanso.rachelblake.com/Flicker/Flicker.html
read the letter across as they appear.

Posted by: Nightcrawler | August 30, 2006 at 06:56 AM

8/30/2006 09:03:00 AM  
Blogger Twinkle said...

oooh, that was really long. Sorry. Want me to delete it?

8/30/2006 09:04:00 AM  
Blogger Gavin said...

Got my appollo bar today! mmm sweet lsd-laced chocolatey goodness!

Having trouble uploading a picture though, I pressed upload, the screen went away and nothing happened... now it says "upload error" every time i try now.

8/30/2006 09:04:00 AM  
Blogger Beth said...

Thanks stacy! I have a feeling that we were near an awful lot of TLECers when we grabbed our bars but didn't know it at the time. :o)

I keep thinking of the poor Apollo Distrabution People who have no idea whats going on except for that they're supposed to give away these wierd candy bars and when they get to their location, nothing has been set up corectly for them by ABC. How frustrating for them as well as the rest of us!

8/30/2006 09:07:00 AM  
Blogger Dazzedelf said...

ok, new glpyh is 307L97BDB9, there is a link to "57" from rachel's secret blog.

8/30/2006 09:09:00 AM  
Blogger KlikMaster said...

"The bodies of the dead must be brought to this station immediately for full genetic work" ~ TWM
Things are sounding more sinister now :o

8/30/2006 09:11:00 AM  
Blogger stacey said...

New clip seem to fit right before XWZW. We are getting close!

8/30/2006 09:12:00 AM  
Blogger <-> said...

twinkle-nanite is another term for "nano robot", i.e. the black smoke is a swarm of nanites

8/30/2006 09:13:00 AM  
Blogger Pandora said...

Hey guys... can anyone who went to the Santa Monica or Maine Apollo giveaway events please comment on how they went? Fairness of distribution, organization, etc. For lostpedia documentation to help others. Thanks!

8/30/2006 09:14:00 AM  
Blogger void said...

<->, the producers have said that it's not.

(but don't trust them =P)

8/30/2006 09:16:00 AM  
Blogger Young Wallace said...

Chad, you there?

8/30/2006 09:17:00 AM  
Blogger Twinkle said...

<->: That was my favorite theory about the black smoke too, but TPTB have denied repeatedly that it is a swarm of nanobots like Crichton describes in Prey. The Research Blog has some information about nanotechnology and how it might relate to Lost.

8/30/2006 09:17:00 AM  
Blogger Twinkle said...

I've got to go offline for a bit but I'll check back later for any theories or comments about the connection between the "word" glyph codes. Love talking about the mysteries! Thanks!

8/30/2006 09:19:00 AM  
Blogger DiggityDirge said...

which blog Dazzedelf? Stophanso?

8/30/2006 09:20:00 AM  
Blogger ular98 said...

I can't understand why the lowkeysoft site doesn't show change unless it is on the Speaker or DJ site (one of the top row)

8/30/2006 09:20:00 AM  
Blogger 2costa said...

everyone believe me now that manny gives non-verizon clues. I was checking monster til i went to bed

8/30/2006 09:22:00 AM  
Blogger maven said...

Morning all: I think I'm with a pretty big majority that relies on the great work of others! I have no personal interest in seeing my name on that leaderboard, so I'm in awe of those who do the hunt and thank them immensely! Can't wait for this phase to be over, and we can get on with great discussion and speculation about what TWM is up to.

8/30/2006 09:23:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Yes I am Wallace. Do you want me to add this to the post?

8/30/2006 09:23:00 AM  
Blogger 2costa said...

the entertainment weekly was right on the money and I didn't hear that hint anywhere else

8/30/2006 09:23:00 AM  
Blogger Pharmacopaeia said...

So what's with the label at the top of the latest glyph? The "yesterday 18?2"?

From a this day in history site:

August 29, 1882 Australia beat England by 7 runs "Death of English cricket"
August 29, 1882 Fred Spofforth completes 14-90 for match vs. England (7-46 and 7-44)
August 29, 1862 2nd Battle of Bull Run (Manassas) begins
August 29, 1862 Battle of Aspromonte-Italian royal forces defeat rebels
August 29, 1862 Battle of Bull Run, Virginia (Manassas, Gainesville, Bristoe Station)
August 29, 1862 U.S. Bureau of Engraving and Printing begins operation
August 29, 1842 Great Britain and China sign Treaty of Nanking, ends Opium war <--- was when Hong Kong was ceded to the British

???

?

8/30/2006 09:24:00 AM  
Blogger 2costa said...

dazzeldelf is that the newest one

8/30/2006 09:25:00 AM  
Blogger 2costa said...

pharmacopaeia do you get your name from the John Ott book of the same name?

8/30/2006 09:26:00 AM  
Blogger DiggityDirge said...

so were the comments at monster.com our hint?

DiggityDirge said...
did anyone see this over at monster.com yesterday? I saw the first comment with the link to the anime site, but I missed this one. Just wondering if anyone checked stophanso or what you think of the comment.

http://forums.monster.com/viewmessage.asp?messageid=4221612

Follow-ups Hans-NO
RossNewberry - 8/25/2006 - 6:45:52 AM
> RossNewberry
No matter how desperate you are for a job, you shouldn't stoop to working for the Hanso Foundation. Learn more at http://stophanso.rachelblake.com

8/30/2006 09:27:00 AM  
Blogger Dazzedelf said...

Yes the newest glyph is 307L97BDB9.

8/30/2006 09:28:00 AM  
Blogger tole212 said...

RE: #57

"Yesterday 18?2" - do you think it means something? A clue for another glyph?

8/30/2006 09:28:00 AM  
Blogger stacey said...

2costa -- Yup, 307l97bdb9 is the latest [#57]. There is a post titled "57" on Rachel's blog at http://stophanso.rachelblake.com.

8/30/2006 09:28:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Young Wallace - I updated the post. I was wating to see if someone else was going to do due to last week David and I making it crash on us.

8/30/2006 09:28:00 AM  
Blogger Pharmacopaeia said...

2costa - no I don't but I shall certainly look it up :D

8/30/2006 09:29:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

David, Belly, Young Wallace - Why is clue #121 a draft all of a sudden?

8/30/2006 09:29:00 AM  
Blogger 2costa said...

he also has a book called pharmacothion

8/30/2006 09:31:00 AM  
Blogger RyaNDrumZ said...

GOOD MORNING TLEC!!!
Man, I hope this keeps going...I came to work and had to enter 3 glyphs this time...Very cool. Well I hope the game keeps going today, but I have a feeling that this will be it...

8/30/2006 09:32:00 AM  
Blogger 2costa said...

I knew that the new EW glyph was different, but everyone said manny wouldn't give u a clue about a non-veerizon site, thats the only reason anyone kept checking montster...vindication

8/30/2006 09:34:00 AM  
Blogger 2costa said...

i got a bead on a new clue,but i don't want to be ridiculed

8/30/2006 09:35:00 AM  
Blogger Pharmacopaeia said...

2costa - very interesting! I'll definitely hunt it out at university.

8/30/2006 09:36:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

2Costa this is not like the other sites, comment away! All things are welcome here!

8/30/2006 09:37:00 AM  
Blogger Double_T said...

Hi guys in the U.S nice glpyh some seriously good glyph hunting going on even if this stage is getting a bit tedious. I'm from England but I'm still getting in on the whole Lost experience. I was just wondering what you thought about the new glyph and what TWM is doing taking the bodies to a station?? Maybe the flame, so that he can experiment and then burn the evidence hence the flame.

8/30/2006 09:39:00 AM  
Blogger AmbientBlu said...

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8/30/2006 09:39:00 AM  
Blogger Young Wallace said...

Thrash, I added Clue #s to the titles and saved them, I'm republishing now...

8/30/2006 09:40:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Awesome Wallace! I was wondering what was up with it for a minute!

8/30/2006 09:47:00 AM  
Blogger RyaNDrumZ said...

Double T-The flame station, where THF burns all the evidence...I guess that can work. Very interesting theory.

8/30/2006 09:49:00 AM  
Blogger jpike001 said...

Goodness...It's hard to be in the middle of a hunt with you guys when you have to walk all over campus every 50 minutes...Great job finding the Glyphs everyone

8/30/2006 09:51:00 AM  
Blogger Perdido_CV said...

yesterday 18?2"

"The sale of the company (Magnus Hanso company) in 1882 to the East Ocean Trade Group saw the remainder of the New World Sea Traders slaving and military vessels converted to legitimate trading ships"

8/30/2006 10:10:00 AM  
Blogger dfizz said...

if you want to know how we were supposed to know to go to the snakes on a plane link in the old lost ninja post, it is explained on matt the pale's page.

8/30/2006 10:12:00 AM  
Blogger RyaNDrumZ said...

Full Genetic Workup on dead bodies. This seems very weird. What can they possibly do with the "genetics" of the dead bodies that died from this "Virus". Maybe study it to find out why certain genes survive and some don't.

8/30/2006 10:16:00 AM  
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8/30/2006 10:19:00 AM  
Blogger AmbientBlu said...

And the bodies of the station must be brought to this station immediately for full genetic workup

OK, so what's the consensus on this one ... when Mittlewerk says the bodies must be brought to THIS station ... did he just finish talking about a station and is now referencing it, or is it possible that this video is not from a ship, but was taken IN a station? And, if they are in a station, is it an island station, or could THF have stations off the island as well?

8/30/2006 10:19:00 AM  
Blogger Dr.Spongebob "Chris" Shephard said...

GOOD MORNING TLEC!!!
Hey !!! People WOW THREE GLYPH well tha makes up for the slump we got into wooo hoo

WE ARE BACK BABY

8/30/2006 10:20:00 AM  
Blogger Christine#2 said...

Lhorse,
Happy Birthday to you,
you live in a zoo,
you smell like pine trees,
and you look like Joop too.


Have a great day!
Christine :)

8/30/2006 10:23:00 AM  
Blogger Pharmacopaeia said...

I wonder if it's to look at the effects of the vaccine.

8/30/2006 10:27:00 AM  
Blogger RyaNDrumZ said...

Pharm-So your saying that this vaccine isn't 100% accurate and that it might kill of some people. That's why they want to look at the bodies, so they can see the genetic make-up and find out how they can tweak it so the vaccine will be able to work on the general public when the world does end. They are testing the vaccine, and they know that there will be casualties, and they need to take radical action...

8/30/2006 10:40:00 AM  
Blogger maven said...

Hey, LHorse: Is it your birthday! Have a Happy One!

Sounds like this "vaccine" is not so foolproof! It probably is a rush job and they needed to do this test on the subjects off of Sri Lanka. Apparently, the genetic workup of these bodies will help fine tune the vaccine. But doesn't that take some time to do? I wonder what the precise genetic targets are in this virus.

8/30/2006 10:40:00 AM  
Blogger oxillini said...

morning all!

ok, given the clips we've gotten today, i have a new theory, new to me at least. i think they are using humans as a method to produce something (vaccine maybe) they infect a population, collect the dead bodies, do a genetic workup and select the ones that fit their targets. from these they extract something (blood, organs?) for their own sinister purposes. perhaps making a new vaccine, the ulitmate biological weapon, the panacea to ALL disease, whow knows. i'm getting a kind of a soylent "whatever" vibe from these recent clips. "it's made of people!"

8/30/2006 10:45:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY DEAR LHORSE!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU!

AND MANY MORE!!!

wv = OHIII
Oh Hiii!

8/30/2006 10:46:00 AM  
Blogger goingdark! said...

maybe the valenzettie equation haspredicted a biological or chemical disaster in the future. or maybe what the hanso foundation has been doing has changed the outcome of the equation (assuming the results change due to a particular era's circumstances- ie the hanso foundation brought this onto themselves and us)and are now either trying to prevent it, or to find a cure to help save who they deam fit to survive.

8/30/2006 10:47:00 AM  
Blogger maven said...

From what we have so far, I think TWM is trying to fine tune a virus that will wipe out vast sections of the earth's population, so that the aftermath of armaggedon (a la the VE)will be manageable for the future population -- those that are genetically engineered to survive and repopulate the earth.

8/30/2006 10:49:00 AM  
Blogger Pharmacopaeia said...

The reason I wonder about the vaccine is because Mulletwerk says:

# "the villages of Filan (?) and Vetul-Milani (?) have allowed us to test our vaccine on them." (25KOCJS6S6)
# "They think they are infected by a virus carried by local macaques" (TROPICS)
# "and they believe we are bringing them the cure,"

So obviously they're being used as guinea pigs. And guinea pigs are chopped up for testing when they inevitably drop dead, especially when creepy scientists are introducing a virus that hits precise genetic targets into the environment.

8/30/2006 10:51:00 AM  
Blogger Helgus Antonius said...

Sounds more like they are targeting genes responsible for disease and aging, delivered in the form of a virus. Until its perfected, the virus is expected to cause some 'acceptable level' of deaths, which they intent to learn from. A typical case of the ends justifying the means, with a megalomaniac calling the shots.

8/30/2006 10:51:00 AM  
Blogger Pharmacopaeia said...

Oxillini - a friend of mine has a t-sirt that says 'Soylent green is PURPLE!'

;)

8/30/2006 10:52:00 AM  
Blogger maven said...

Hey, Pharma: I agree with you that the islanders are being used to test this virus. But doesn't genetic work-up's take time. TWM and his gang seemed rushed into action, but science doesn't like to be rushed.

8/30/2006 10:56:00 AM  
Blogger goingdark! said...

and thats why its all going to go tits end up for tvm and the hanso foundation. but bear in mind there doing what ever it is they are doing right now.

8/30/2006 10:57:00 AM  
Blogger thinbluemime said...

Wait! Wait! So experiments that knowingly lead to death are performed. Then the bodies are further experimented upon, and ultimately (maybe) cremated?

Sounds like a 50 years old nightmare to me!

8/30/2006 11:05:00 AM  
Blogger Olerica said...

Maven - I got CHILLS when I read your armageddon theory. Whew.

Way to be back and up with the theories! Hope your vacation was what you needed!

8/30/2006 11:07:00 AM  
Blogger Olerica said...

LHorse -

Happy Birthday.

8/30/2006 11:07:00 AM  
Blogger tonilost said...

Not sure but I remember reading that they can use the antibodies of infected subject to make a vaccine, so maybe that's why they are checking out the dead. I'm thinking to get rid of evidence too by cremating them after they are dont.

8/30/2006 11:08:00 AM  
Blogger Double_T said...

They might cremate them in the flame station. Maybe that is the station TWM is on about.

8/30/2006 11:13:00 AM  
Blogger RyaNDrumZ said...

I wonder what the villagers will think. "Oh, Thanks so much for bringing us this cure for the virus the macaques gave us (which is a lie, originally affected by THF), but wait...why are some people dying and some people are getting better. This is no cure, this is a joke.... KILL THEM!!!"
Then THF will have to high-tail out of their because the villagers will be very chasing them with there spears...LOL

8/30/2006 11:15:00 AM  
Blogger lostmyid said...

maven; are they being rushed b/c the armageddon date is quickly approaching? and they need to take radical action to meet that timeline?

8/30/2006 11:15:00 AM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

good morning everyone... about to read through the comments now. I hope everyone has a great day today. We're up to, what? Fragment #58? At the rate we've been going, I figure we'll have the entire video by the end of next week for sure. always eager for something and right now i'm getting eager to see what phase 4 turns out to be like... unless the apollo bars are to be considered phase 4... time will tell..

lhorse: happy birthday!

thrash: yeah, I think I've had 3 or 4 times when David and I have been trying to post at the same time and it gets WAY funky... takes half my post, half his post at first, then if you refresh it will be all his, refresh again and it's all mine... very strange... all correctable tho. was used to just doing them all alone for a little bit, then you and me split it while david was in N.O. and now that david's been around more, it seems to happen more often... keeps it interesting tho :)

8/30/2006 11:16:00 AM  
Blogger RyaNDrumZ said...

Sorry-Very angry chasing them with spears...

8/30/2006 11:16:00 AM  
Blogger Matt the Pale said...

CRISY JUST TOLD ME THIS IN IM:

just been on the phone with the special events
coordinator for the kipona festival in PA this
saturday, and they not only don't know anything about it, but i guess i'm not the only phone call they received. they said to announce that the giveaway will not be occuring on whatever website i could, and
also to let it be known that if the words "apollo" and "candy" are seen on the premises, they will be
arrested. lovely, as that was my only shot (besides
the now nonexistent chicago) to get my bar.

8/30/2006 11:19:00 AM  
Blogger oxillini said...

seems abc has angered the locals.

8/30/2006 11:22:00 AM  
Blogger goingdark! said...

i have a spare one u can have matt.

8/30/2006 11:23:00 AM  
Blogger oxillini said...

time to tar and feather some interns. i don't have any tar, how about elmer's glue? and then they can pull the glue off to make fake skin. who remembers doing that.

(raises hand.)

8/30/2006 11:24:00 AM  
Blogger Olerica said...

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8/30/2006 11:25:00 AM  
Blogger ozdust said...

Doesn't it seem that there HAS to be a reason for all of these giveaway mess-ups? How could TPTB foul up this thoroughly, unless it was on purpose?

8/30/2006 11:26:00 AM  
Blogger ular98 said...

how could they possibly screw up anything as badly as they have the candy thing in the usa?

8/30/2006 11:28:00 AM  
Blogger Matt the Pale said...

I don't want a bar. Tresbien already mailed me one. I'm RELAYING INFORMATION TO YOU.

Crisy told me that the Apollo Candy people are apparently going to be arrested if they show up for the Sept. 2nd event in Harrisburg, PA.

8/30/2006 11:30:00 AM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

That sucks matt... i'm not going to be able to get a bar either, but it still sucks to hear when others cannot. It's crazy how anal some of these event coordinators are about handing out candy bars... Arrested?! For handing out a candybar? I would have gone OFF on her...

8/30/2006 11:30:00 AM  
Blogger Olerica said...

Probably getting by on the 'kindness' of strangers. At my drop, the marketing people knew that there was an item coming from the network re: Lost, but very little else.

Either they think more people are in the know, or that those of us who are are too jazzed to care that there are problems. Wrong on both accounts.

8/30/2006 11:31:00 AM  
Blogger ular98 said...

as expensive as fuel costs are, if they let people pay money to get to these giveaways, then say they don't have the candy...??? Do you think I will buy their products? The sponsers should really be taking note.

8/30/2006 11:31:00 AM  
Blogger noblelawyer said...

a shot that could change genes......that is something scientits are working on. Could cure alzheimers, parkinsons, cancer......

8/30/2006 11:44:00 AM  
Blogger Dazzedelf said...

Ok, i went out to the parking lot and took a nap in my car, now i'm back in the office and still no new glyphs since 10am. I want more!!!

8/30/2006 11:51:00 AM  
Blogger oxillini said...

oh, if only i could convince myself the screwups are on purpose. but alas, methinks tptb are none too swift in the realm of event planning. picture this:

(interns seated around table consisting of empty pizza box on top of discarded computer monitor)

First intern, Kenny: "So, ABC says we have to give away, like, some candy or something."

2nd intern, Jill: "What, like throw it out at parades?"

3rd intern, Stan: "Or give it away out of shady vans?"

Kenny: "No, we have to, like, go places and hand em out."

Jill: "Oooooh, like in Hawaii?"

Stan: "Or Tulsa?"

Kenny: "Nope we have a list from TPTB."

Stan: "Who's TPTB?"

Kenny: "I don't know, but they sign our meager checks, so let's do this."

Jill: "Alright, what do we need to do?"

Kenny: "I don't know, I guess just show up and hand em out and stuff"

Stan: "Should we call ahead to tell the marketing people what's going on or put info up on the website?"

Jill: "Nah, we're ABC, they'll know when we're coming and how to get the candy."

Kenny: "Plus I don't want to use up all my personal cell phone minutes."

Jill: "Agreed."

Stan: "I still think we should let people know what's going on."

Jill & Kenny: "Shut up Stan!"

Kenny: "To the intern-mobile!"

(The trio climb into a 73 Nova and are off to New York City.)

8/30/2006 11:54:00 AM  
Blogger dixxee said...

That is funny Ox... thanks.. needed a laugh

8/30/2006 11:56:00 AM  
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8/30/2006 11:57:00 AM  
Blogger dixxee said...

proper planning... hmmm what a concept. Communication? huh? what did you say?

8/30/2006 11:59:00 AM  
Blogger Vitruvian Man said...

This phase of the game has been a microcosm of "Lost" for me as a whole. So much potential, such a great beginning, and then - meh. Hey, we have cool numbers and a hatch and a monster and polar bears, but we think you'd rather hear about some drug addict and a love triangle that has about as much chemistry as me in grade school (see, cuz you don't get to chemistry until later...ah forget it). Frustrating.

Not surprising that the necks in mid-PA are going to stop them - this is a state where you still can't buy beer/wine/alcohol in a grocery store (you have to get it at state-controlled stores).

8/30/2006 12:06:00 PM  
Blogger joel said...

hmm.... didn't the the Tysen's Corners mall people also say that if Apollo Candy showed up they'd be arrested too? Maybe this is part of the script -- an element of danger! :)

8/30/2006 12:08:00 PM  
Blogger FYSB said...

Oh, man, sorry Pennsylvania. That bites.

Though I have to say I am sorely and perversely tempted to call the PA Festival folks and naively ask them about Apollo bars, just to hear someone's head explode.

8/30/2006 12:12:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Hey Vitruvian man - you are so right on so many levels. I am not that excited about season three at least not from what we have been told about the plot lines and story arc's...if I wanted to watch a soap I would stay home and watch General Hospital, it is more intriging mob boss stories!

8/30/2006 12:15:00 PM  
Blogger BadgerKyle said...

Here's what I don't get though . . .

If the Acura events are still tied to the majority of the giveaways, then why is Chicago not on the apollo list anymore, even though the Acura event is still going on?

Hilarious "transcript" Ox . . . seems to me that it is exactly what happened!

8/30/2006 12:16:00 PM  
Blogger Dazzedelf said...

No, they tyson's corner people said, they didn't have clearance to have the event they would have to leave the property, Nothing was said about arresting anyone. Chances are the apollo people are piggy backing on somebody at the festival itself and they are not their own venue. At Tyson's Corner, they were attached to the blood drive which is why the events coordinator didn't know about it until the 0 hour.

8/30/2006 12:17:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

ox: lmao... sounds about right to me... that was hilarious

I'm not going to lie... I want a candy bar... I want on the leaderboard. I've been putting everything I can into this game from the second I saw the first Hanso commercial air, as I'm sure a lot of others have as well... I'm in-game almost everyday, excluding those when I'm obligated to be out-game for my job or I'm out of town, but even then I'm still in game, checking in on the comments while I'm training and even posting to the front page in the middle of meetings... answering questions in the comments and in emails, searching my butt of for glyphs that may or may not be available, buying up magazines and books left and right, tailoring fake resumes, emailing numerous questions to a fake dj that never even read them, driving all over the greater los angeles area interviewing cluesless tards, searching for a glyph that was parking in the front of an EW employees driveway the entire time, contributing and helping to keep up the best damn source of TLE information on the planet and if I were to drive 2 hours through LA traffic to get to a Santa Monica pier where appolo wasn't even allowed to distribute candybars, someone would definitely pay...

this ends the only rant you'll ever see from me... unless things get really ugly...

I'm losing my mind with this game... yesterday I flipped on the tele in the middle of a CSI rerun and grisam pulled a piece of paper out of the toilet and a there was a little sparkle in the back of my psyche that got excited that it might be a glyph... totally unfounded and illogical, but for a fraction of a second I had a little bit of hope that it might be a glyph... the next second, reality kicked in and that unfounded, illogical sparkle fizzled away... same thing happened when I was playing my new Tekken game on my PSP... at the end of the fight, in the background there was someone holding a sign that I thought may possibly be a glyph... it went away right after I saw it and now I'll never know... again.. unfounded and illogical... sad, really... will it go away when this phase is over? I hope so... then again, they'll probably bring on a new sickness with Phase 4... I gotta say, I do kinda like the sickness... (Richard Cheese's version of down with the sickness starts playing in my head.. "you mother get up come on get down with the sickness, you...")... bah... someone shoot me.

okay THAT ends my rant

8/30/2006 12:20:00 PM  
Blogger BarbaraJay said...

I just sent this email to the ESPN Zone in DC. I really don't want to make the trip into the city during rush hour if nothing is going to come of it, especially on a work/school night. In the words of Fox Mulder, trust no one.

I am writing to confirm that there will be an ABC network promotion for the TV show, LOST, associated with the Acura event on September 7. ABC network organizers for the LOST Experience game have announced that Apollo candy bars will be distributed at this event.
http://apollocandy.com/
Click on US Distribution.
Any information you can give me will be appreciated.

Thank you.

8/30/2006 12:20:00 PM  
Blogger DeDJeZTeR said...

Happy B-Day LHorse007,

That's all I got for now except, arrested.... what a crock of, oh never mind

DeD

8/30/2006 12:28:00 PM  
Blogger Thelostgospels said...

i got so desperate i ordered it off ebay, but luckilly i got it cheap compared to other $50.00 ones, only $16.50, i would have done the tradeoff thing but i wanted to keep mine

8/30/2006 12:29:00 PM  
Blogger Dazzedelf said...

Barbarjay, Espn zone can you give you no information about that event. The entire site has been rented by Acura for the RDX Launch event, and anything that Acura is doing is unknown to the ESPN Zone people. You will have to contact the Acura RDX Launch people to get confirmation on this. I already RSVP's with ACURA for the DC site and me and my non ARG friend will be there.

8/30/2006 12:32:00 PM  
Blogger Pecma said...

Obviously TPTB will not talk about the game right now and how everything played out. But do you think they ever will? I really hope they address all of the concerns that everyone has mentioned via a podcast or something. Maybe even apologize for the Apollo distribution fiascos and timing of release ofglyphs on HE.com. I am not a real active contributor but I am an active player. I want a candy bar (but I live near Boston) and I would love to get on the leader board (but I don't have time to be searching the the internet for Glyphs).

8/30/2006 12:32:00 PM  
Blogger capcom said...

Well put Belly. The other missing aspect to this game besides the non-communication in the candy phase, is the lack of coordination in the video phase. By coordination, I mean, the timing of the HE site update to accept codes, the placement of the clues in the magazines, etc., and the placement of the codes on the respective websites or geographic site. For instance, if a magazine is supposed to be issued with a clue on a certain date, is it so hard for TPTB to coordinate the HE site and the glyph/code site on the same day so that we don't spend one or two days searching WHERE WE ACTUALLY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SEARCHING, but can't find it because the timely updates haven't been performed?! Sheesh. I really don't get it. It's a wonder how ABC/TPTB can actually get a TV show put together on time and on the tube if they can't even synchronize three parts of releasing a clue, or make a simple phone call to pre-arrange an event with a venue. I dunno, maybe I'm just being too critical.

8/30/2006 12:34:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Boy, that Pennslyvania event really sucks. Arrested? For an ARG? Come on, TPTB, get your act together.

Oxillini: Great script. And probably pretty accurate.

I'm planning on going to the Sept. 16th Acura/Viceroy Hotel/Santa Monica event. But I'm really apprehensive about traveling about an hour on a Saturday night to an area I'm not really familiar with, and what if there's another screwup? Hopefully, besides maybe scoring some Apollo bars, some of us TLECers will connect and meet eachother. That will be fun at least.

8/30/2006 12:35:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

capcom: it would be hard to coordinate a "release" on HE simultaneously with the release of a magazine... very true. no way around that, other than not using magazines for clues, at least for this phase... newspapers are deployed daily... would be a much easier method of a coordinated "released"

thrash: yeah... haven't watched in a while, but I was hospitalized a couple of years ago and got hooked on general hospital... there were explosions and gangsters havin' shootouts... not to mention emily, elizabeth and carly... not a bad show if you're limited to lying in a hospital bed watching tv all day.

8/30/2006 12:47:00 PM  
Blogger biotronx said...

just to clarify about last night's Santa Monica event. Basically, the Apollo guy (Nat was his name) was told that he was not able to hand out bars on the peir or anywhere near it. So he took me and everyone that was gathered on the peir when he got there south down the boardwalk. we walked down to some benches near a resteraunt named shutters (it was a ways down). They also made an announcement at the peir on the speakers that told everyone that wanted apollo bars to walk towards venice beach. many lost experience players came strolling through. meanwhile i was on the phone with tapdawg and let him know what was going on and asked him to grab anyone left on the pier. when the number of people coming eventually slowed down, Nat the apollo distributor asked me to go back to the pier and grab anyone else up there. Me and another person (the girl that's running the apollo trades. sorry i forgot your name!) went back to the pier and i walked through the event holding my apollo bar up while the other girl waited just outside the event holding her apollo bar up. we managed to find about more lost experience players and brought them back to the apollo guy. After all the lost experience players got their bars he started trying to give the bars to random people walking around, but most people didnt want them. Pretty much it got late and almost everybody left and Nat the apollo guy was just chit chatting with me while we walked back to our cars, when one of the kids that i found when i went back to the pier came running back to us. He had a golden oracle and hadn't even looked at his bars till then. I was just glad that a player got the oracle and not some random person. The Apollo guy was really cool, and almost all the players that came for the bar got them. In my opinion, despite the mishap with not having the bars AT the event, the giveaway went as best as it could and the Apollo guy Nat went out of his way to get the players the bars.

By the way, if Nat is distributing there again and if they can't give the bars away again at the event, he said he would be doing the same thing and heading south on the boardwalk. so for anyone that missed this one and wants to go to another santa monica pier giveaway, keep that in mind! if you dont see bars at the pier just head south on the boardwalk (the sidewalk along the beach by the sand) and look for a guy with an apollo shirt.

PS. if anyone has copies of those group pictures we took, please send em my way! thanks and nice to meet you all :)

8/30/2006 12:50:00 PM  
Blogger Fenris said...

"We have tried to change those values by manipulating the environment in many, many ways"

Just gotta say - so called that. The Valencetti equation obviously isn't set in stone and CAN be manipulated by changing the non constant parts of it. Which does also mean in theory you could manipulate it the other way which of course is still open for the big plot twist.

Okay from the sounds of it they haven't suceeded in changing things...which brings about the next part, maybe it is a self fufilling prophecy because Valencetti factored into it The Hanso Foundation and it's there work that ultimate makes the equation accurate. That's the thing with prophecies, if the predictions include your actions apon hearing the prophecy there is not much you can do to escape it.

It's a bit like Odin trying to stop himself being eaten by the Fenris Wolf. :)

Okay I know I'm not the first person to suggest that, but it's my current theory now and I did call the apparent (at least as a plot element) flexibility of the equation. When people were saying it was all about surviving the apocalypse, I was saying it was about avoiding (or causing) it. Yay for me.

Now after a brief moment of smugness I'll get back to being bored.

I'm wondering how many people even care about these reveals now though. HE and WIA have pretty much torn the heart out of this ARG (or at least the adrenal gland)

8/30/2006 12:51:00 PM  
Blogger Fenris said...

Belly, ranting? Things *are* out of control!

8/30/2006 12:53:00 PM  
Blogger DeDJeZTeR said...

I agree Maven,
That is the only good that has come of the Apollo events. The fact that we are getting to meet one another, sure not everyone wants their pic up on WIA.com, but in person it is hard to hide your face (unless you ARE a ninja... lol) I think it is cool that we get to meet each other, and discuss the ARG as well as the show since, and I have said this before, a conversation takes paths while these comments tend to stay focused. (not putting down the comments here) A ten minute conversation can veer off in ways that these comments really can't. I know when I was hanging out with Marcus, Lostnuts, Dman, Ladyoftheflies, and the others at the Central Park event, it was really cool to put faces to the names and personalities to those names as well. The meeting others is the only good to come of this, and hopefully there will be more cool people at the Sept. 6th event

C-ya
DeD

8/30/2006 12:54:00 PM  
Blogger lisa said...

I just noticed that the 9/16 event at the Viceroy has been taken off the Apollo site...actually ALL of the LA events have been taken off (including the one last night). I wonder what that means??

8/30/2006 12:56:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

I just emailed KABC7 tv here in L.A. re the Sept. 16th Viceroy event in Santa Monica. I wanted confirmation that this was going to happen, and the bars will be there. They seem to be co-sponsors of the event.

Fenris: I agree that the VE can be manipulated. That's what TWM figured out at the VIK Institute with the savants. However, he and his gang seems really rushed to get all the pieces in place (seems like last minute testing of this virus and doing genetic workups). By making changes in the environment, the equations can be controlled somehow.

8/30/2006 12:58:00 PM  
Blogger capcom said...

Belly, I respectfully disagree for this reason. We know that People mag comes out every Friday (or whenever). On Friday, Mr./Ms. HE.com programmer-updater wakes up, looks at the schedule for mag clue release that day, plugs it in and, voila, HE is ready for code entry the day the magazine is released to the rabbid ARG players. Ditto with say, Monster and it's programmer, who has been informed that a Monster ad with a clue will be on the stands on Friday. I just don't think that it could be that difficult. Unless they still at this point totally underestimate the intelligence and voracity of the ARG players even this late in the game, and think that it will take us a long time to find the clue and that they have all the time in the world to coordinate the clue/hidding place/code? :-)

8/30/2006 12:59:00 PM  
Blogger biotronx said...

lisa, that's weird...maybe the event last night didnt really happen. it was all just a chocolaty dream.

8/30/2006 12:59:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Lisa: You're right. That Sept. 16th event is no longer listed! That really sucks. This giveaway phase seems very poorly thought out. Especially when non-TLErs get the candy and throw away the wrappers! They announce venues and then take them away. Very frustrating.

8/30/2006 01:02:00 PM  
Blogger Fenris said...

You know what would have been a crazy idea. Not having Acts and spreading stuff like the slow glyph hunt in with the Rachel Vids and/or hacking parts or even just starting DJDan at a later date or spreading the podcasts out a bit to keep things going.

The worst thing about this ARG is the timing and general organisation. That is where heads would need to role. It's not been planned very well at all. The story would have seemed a lot better if it hadn't had it's flow ruined by the overall organisation of the ARG and the continued farcical chocolate releases in the states hadn't made a mockery of it all at a time where there is little else of substance to grab on to.

I don't know about anyone else but it's slowed down so much I'm starting to forget minor plot elements and am definetly rapidly loosing any emotional investment I may have had in any of the characters and/or story.

I know a few people that have left out right. But I'm no quitter! I'll be here till the end and beyond. Good job we've got a good, wide and interesting community to keep things going. Also a good job Speaker is a one man entertainment machine too. I very much doubt his videos were planned at the start but they're about the most interesting thing going on on the non-player side of things right now.

8/30/2006 01:03:00 PM  
Blogger BarbaraJay said...

Dazzedelf, you're probaby right about the ESPN folk not knowing about TLE but at least they'll know we're coming and won't overreact. I'm looking forward to meeting people more than getting a candy bar. I want to be able to look back and say I did something really whacky.

8/30/2006 01:05:00 PM  
Blogger Fenris said...

Maven - That's the one thing that is wrong (and I have ranted about previously) about the UK giveaway. I haven't got to meet anyone.

I only got to meet Diss because he happened to be in Brighton one evening, but I highly doubt there will be a chance to meet the other UK lostargies anytime during this ARG and that is really sad.

We should have a world wide meet when it's all over in Sri-Lanka.

8/30/2006 01:07:00 PM  
Blogger Dazzedelf said...

Oh I'm definately right about ESPN zone knowing nothing, I called them last week to inquire about how to RSVP and they told me they rented the location, they have no clue what's going in the building and to contact acura if i had more questions.

8/30/2006 01:09:00 PM  
Blogger RyaNDrumZ said...

Man, this stinks...
I hope they get it together for the LA distributions and hope they are not cancelled. Now I'm pissed...

8/30/2006 01:16:00 PM  
Blogger wendyzski said...

I remember when I really liked this game. But now with the complete lack of coordination with the glyph releases and now the Apollo Bar screw-ups and the Chicago on-again-off-again (currently off)....I'm getting really pissed off!

8/30/2006 01:20:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Ryandrumz: Yeah, really pissed! If this is truly pulled from the lineup and we're left with this unorganized Pier giveway, my frustration level is at the boiling point!

8/30/2006 01:20:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Manufacturing candy bars have had to been done quite a while ago. It's not something that is done at the last minute. You would think that a better plan for distribution could have been worked out and coordinated. Announcing venues, pulling them, changing them is a sign of something seriously wrong with this ARG.

I'm hoping that once the video is put together, and we figure out the meaning of Apollo, things will get back on track. I'm not quitting...just very aggravated how TPTB are playing with our emotions!

8/30/2006 01:24:00 PM  
Blogger lisa said...

Look at it this way...it adds to the "challenge" of the game. What fun would it be if everything were easy? *um, trying to be positive*

8/30/2006 01:25:00 PM  
Blogger Pharmacopaeia said...

As a representative of the South Pacific, I'm still on my "sucks to be an international player in a so-called international game" tangent.

Nice to put faces to names though :) Even if the whole thing is kinda farcical.

Fenris - yes, we should all meet, like, five years from now and see how much we've all changed! ;)

8/30/2006 01:26:00 PM  
Blogger ib4uc said...

I just had a thought. Maybe all of this disorganization is part of the game, as stupid as it sounds. Rachel wants everyone to get the Apollo Bars and post pictures on WIA. Hanso Foundation is doing anything to stop it, even if it means cancelling the hand-outs, etc. and piss all of us off.

Stupid, I know, but the thought did cross my mind.

8/30/2006 01:31:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Not so stupid, ib! That's probably an out TPTB will use!

8/30/2006 01:34:00 PM  
Blogger capcom said...

Good project management doesn't mean that the game has to be easy. My Pollyanna trust in the game's planners dried up this weekend. But positivity is still appreciated and duly noted Lisa. :-) As has been spoken so often, at least we still have this great site to communicate with each other on.

8/30/2006 01:34:00 PM  
Blogger julesnotjewels said...

I'm with you Pharma! As a great white northerner (Canada), all I can do is live vicariously through those that get candy bars.

Of course, being so far away I also don't have to ride the roller coaster of emotions in continuously having my local event cancelled!

8/30/2006 01:36:00 PM  
Blogger FYSB said...

Fenris had a good point earlier...this part of the game has gone on so long and slowly that I've forgotten earlier plot points as well. During the first part of the game, we had Persephone and then Rachel. We were working with her, hearing from her, we had a partner in this. Then this video came along and we've been rudderless for weeks. It was very exciting and dramatic when Rachel unveiled hansoexposed at ComicCon, but that wore off quickly once the drudgery of the glyph hunt progressed. I'm shocked that a writer would allow that to happen.

But we hung in there and kept building our video even though the urgency had waned. Heaven knows how many Sri Lankans have been infected and killed by now. But we were promised "something that would burn a hole in the Hanso Foundation".

Then we get this crazy candy bar search which gives us no clues, but forces us to post our photos online in order to prove our loyalt to Rachel. When she thinks there are enough of us minions on board, THEN she's gonna reveal something else big???? What the....?

This game is not just all over the place, it's downright incoherent.

sigh

8/30/2006 01:39:00 PM  
Blogger Dazzedelf said...

I think the apollo release was very poorly planned and executed. Most of the advertised venues didn't know anything about it, and if you refer the mgmt to their website they is no way for the venues to contact tptb to find out why they are listed on the candy bar site when they haven't approved an event. It was poor planning and it was unforseen. I don't think ABC gave the ARG a high priority because they didn't see a lot of money being made from it. Out of millions of viewers world wide there are only 35000 or less on He.com that's less than 1% of their audience. I think there are a couple people problably working their hearts out to keep this thing going and they are probably getting very little support on it because let's face it, they are paying for advertisement slots in Ew & People, ads on Tv, and are using jeep, verizon and monster to play hosts, plus giving out thousands of candy bars for free, this means they are sinking money into the game and not getting any profits back.

For as many complaints I have about the game, I still would like to thank the people working on it for their work. The fact that game didn't get cancelled on account of possibly losing money is a miracle and the fact that it's still going means some people are actually busting their asses to do this.

Remember TPTB is not all of ABC it's a couple people doing all this with maybe a couple summer interns that will be leaving or have left with school starting back up.

8/30/2006 01:40:00 PM  
Blogger BarbaraJay said...

Well, I guess I'll just take my chances with the DC event. My daughter and I will be there wearing LOST shirts.

I like the idea that THF is screwing up the giveaway. Don't believe it but I like it.

8/30/2006 01:40:00 PM  
Blogger Dazzedelf said...

Barbarajay did you rsvp with acura for the event? they are not letting people in unless they RSVP at least that's what i was told on the phone.

8/30/2006 01:42:00 PM  
Blogger BarbaraJay said...

Yes, I did RSVP. I have a VIP pass.

8/30/2006 01:44:00 PM  
Blogger Pharmacopaeia said...

I completely agree dazzledelf. I get mad, then think 'oh but the poor guys who have tried to organise this and make it an interesting piece of interactive storytelling have obviously been let down terribly' and then I get mad all over again.

8/30/2006 01:45:00 PM  
Blogger Matt the Pale said...

Fastenyourseatbelts said, "I'm shocked that a writer would allow that to happen."

I was shocked at first, too, considering this was supposed to be from the writers of LOST. Now nothing will shock me except good writing.

8/30/2006 01:47:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

I have also finally received my VIP pass using a few different variations of my email and answering no to "do you like to stay home"

And if they cancel it or I cannot find my bar on the 9th, meh, I will be with my girl in the city. If the weather is nice we will go walk around south street or go over to boathouse row and just enjoy each others company.

8/30/2006 01:47:00 PM  
Blogger julesnotjewels said...

argh...I could totally see you guys having to register for these Acura events only arrive and see that all of the bars have been given to unregistered people wearing "I love Chevy Camaros" t-shirts ;)

8/30/2006 01:47:00 PM  
Blogger capcom said...

Dazzedelf said: "I think there are a couple people problably working their hearts out to keep this thing going and they are probably getting very little support on it.."

I believe that you are very correct about this, it is an issue that I had not thought of, and it is a good point to keep in mind. Often once a project has been launched, TPTB move on to the next project and leave the remaining follow-up and finish to the folks left behind, and when problems happen TPTB have no interest in regressing their efforts in assistance to the "old project". OK, half of my Pollyanna-ness has returned, thx. :-)

8/30/2006 01:49:00 PM  
Blogger FYSB said...

I don't think ABC is losing money on this game. Jeep, Verizon and Sprite are getting major web traffic every time they post a glyph. That's extremely valuable to a marketer. Especially since we have to plow through product descriptions to get to the clues (crush zones, removable flashlights anyone?) The cost to add a code or glyph to a print ad is pretty minimal, especially since it doesn't really involve any design change, just finding an empty space like a curb and dropping a word in. I would be willing to bet that ABC worked out a trade deal as part of an overall ad buy that allows free placement of codes, glyphs and videos in exchange for driving tens of thousands of people to their sites and ads.

8/30/2006 01:51:00 PM  
Blogger vexingmodstwo said...

I'm amazed at how people can give the PTB the benefit of the doubt this many times.

I gave them a chance back in the first two acts with their continuity errors, etc.

But this has become a farce of unimagineable proportions. I don't care if it's just one or two people with some interns running this thing. DO IT RIGHT. There's no excuse. PERIOD.

This whole things SUCKS TO HIGH HEAVEN RIGHT NOW.

8/30/2006 01:54:00 PM  
Blogger Dr.Spongebob "Chris" Shephard said...

hey people nothing yet?? Hanso exposed has no new glyphs .

8/30/2006 01:57:00 PM  
Blogger julesnotjewels said...

I sure hope things improve though, I've invested a lot of time (well, work time!) into this game!

I am frustrated because as mentioned, so many things have yet to be resolved. Like that conversation that Rachel taped - was that or wasn't that Tonya's voice? Or who is the fixer?

I liked the game early on, even though I felt that TPTB were opening up too many new areas without tieing up loose ends. Now so much time has passed I'm having a hard time remembering what is going on!

*end rant*

8/30/2006 01:57:00 PM  
Blogger Administrator said...

Belly got his rant. Now I get mine.
I'm just going to interject my 2 cents here...take it or leave it...

We've got writers and we've got marketing. We can fast forward through the marketers' commercials when we watch LOST on our TiVos. We have to wade through and sometimes dissect marketers' commercials when we play The LOST Experience. The marketing campaigns interrupt our TV show and are a hindrance and a distraction to the story but, in both cases (Television & ARG) they are NECESSARY to bring the story to the masses. Marketing is a necessary evil when it comes to the entertainment industry. As people interested in the story, we have to maintain the ability and commitment to SEE THROUGH THE MARKETING AND FIND THE STORY.

I still believe in our creative producers & writers. I believe that Carlton & Damon are the heart behind this show and this ARG and that they want to share with us an important piece of mythology. I still believe a story is there. I believe that they have been forced to allow this much marketing and I believe they took a risk to bring us this ARG and I believe that many compromises and much trepidation was involved. I'm still looking for our story and I'm also enjoying what we've gotten so far. It takes work though. More work than fast-forwarding the TiVo. We have to be discerning and have the ability to quickly dismiss anything that isn't pertinent to the story and move past it. The history of Apollo, the Hackett Memos, the sign language video...these are important. I read that. I analyzed that. The organization of a candy bar giveaway is irrelevant to the story. I have dismissed it. I mean, do we really care about a candy bar that much? I could care less about meeting a hired hand Apollo tshirt person who knows nothing about LOST. I care more about what it all MEANS.

The marketers aren't our friends. They don't care about the story and they don't understand or care about our experience. I wish we could all just take a deep breath and accept this as fact. Now let's remember: The writers and creative geniuses are our friends. They care about the story and they understand and care about our experience. But they CAN'T CONTROL the marketers. They are forging a story DESPITE the marketers and we need to find it. My final word: I wish we could spend more time finding the story than complaining about the marketers.

Take it or leave it.

8/30/2006 01:59:00 PM  
Blogger mjm3 said...

I agree with Vex, there is no question that ABC is making money off of this, and not losing any. They have constantly underestimated that capapbilities of the players and they continue to screw up in the smae ways without actually fixing anything. I'm sure they are understaffed but this is ridiculous.

8/30/2006 01:59:00 PM  

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