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Clue #90 - Fragment Code "89RMCOCDC6D"

Go to GaryTroup.net and click on "About" at the top to find the new fragment code "89RMCOCDC6D". The video at hansoexposed.com shows a random scientist man standing at a chalk board where it appears he is about to write out the Valenzetti Equation. Voice-over of Mr. Beardy says, "It predicts the exact number of years and months before humanity extinguishes itself."

*Check out Matt the Pale's summary of all the found fragment codes at...Matt the Pale's HansoExposed Video Fragment Code List

Thanks to Crossfade, Blink, and CarynH for emailing first, and Crossfade for the transcript.

393 Comments:

Blogger mjm3 said...

first

8/02/2006 10:31:00 AM  
Blogger Young Wallace said...

2nd?

8/02/2006 10:31:00 AM  
Blogger gr8estg8r said...

3rd

8/02/2006 10:33:00 AM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

i thought it wasn't mr. beardy... lemme look at it again.

8/02/2006 10:33:00 AM  
Blogger Bruttium said...

top 10

8/02/2006 10:34:00 AM  
Blogger JGZ350 said...

Top 5!

8/02/2006 10:34:00 AM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

yeah it's definitely NOT Mr. Beardy... the guy doesn't even have a beard.

8/02/2006 10:35:00 AM  
Blogger MissMegs said...

ok, so now it says 23 is released. Back to work!

8/02/2006 10:35:00 AM  
Blogger mjm3 said...

where have we already looked for glyph 22? what does that leave?

8/02/2006 10:35:00 AM  
Blogger NoIQ said...

Hey tapdawg -- do you have any information on the release dates this month of the trading cards you photographed at Comic Con? I tend to agree with you that they will have glyphs in specialty sets. And it's August now...

8/02/2006 10:37:00 AM  
Blogger Patrick said...

i looked on the fuselage and clicked on diary (not knowing that there had already been a glyph there) and when i saw it (3zgt) i almost had a heart attack. but no luck.

8/02/2006 10:37:00 AM  
Blogger Furious Panda said...

Nice job Paco!

8/02/2006 10:38:00 AM  
Blogger chussin said...

I think the OCD portion referred to me this morning looking for glyph 22!

8/02/2006 10:39:00 AM  
Blogger Dazzedelf said...

So we get that one, which wasn't there earlier (i checked gary troup and valenzetti at 8am) and now there is a new one which problaby hasn't been posted yet.

8/02/2006 10:39:00 AM  
Blogger scoutpost said...

Yay new glyphs!

8/02/2006 10:40:00 AM  
Blogger Cam794 said...

O dam just a lil bit to late well top 20 yay!

8/02/2006 10:42:00 AM  
Blogger Crossfade said...

Hahaha martha! Another screw up with the e-mail! I'm a guy, my e-mail is herrenmartha@centurytel.net, my name is Bryan, and I provided the transcript.

8/02/2006 10:48:00 AM  
Blogger dante said...

wow this is creepy: http://hoffittsfilms.blogspot.com/

8/02/2006 10:53:00 AM  
Blogger Crossfade said...

So... did we found 23 before we found 22?

8/02/2006 10:53:00 AM  
Blogger Crossfade said...

Dante, its a well executed fake, one of the better one's we've seen.

8/02/2006 10:55:00 AM  
Blogger dante said...

Well it's more interesting than the real game!

8/02/2006 10:56:00 AM  
Blogger leolio said...

boring... i know all is already planified but it's getting soooooo long

8/02/2006 10:56:00 AM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

for information on the trading cards go here:

http://inkworks.com/products/lost/lostrev/lostrevnewprod1.html

no date is stated on the site.

8/02/2006 10:57:00 AM  
Blogger korijane said...

this may be a silly question - but was the seating chart at oceanic-air.com always this "clickable"?

http://www.oceanic-air.com/seatingchart.htm

8/02/2006 10:59:00 AM  
Blogger Crossfade said...

korijane: I believe so.

8/02/2006 11:01:00 AM  
Blogger Paco007 said...

So, I was just looking at the XML stats (from bacchusyappy's post on the previous thread)...
I wonder if the "sequence names" can help us determine the correct order of the fragments.

Here is the link:
ttp://www.hansoexposed.com/xml/statistics

view source to see what I'm after...

8/02/2006 11:03:00 AM  
Blogger Kylelane said...

Anybody home?

Returning for a quick post as I try to keep up in between bouts of work and/or family.

I believe the Hoffitt film may be real. I think it depicts Alvar's organization in an earlier phase, at the time of Dharma. Like, Hanso knew the end was coming, so he put together this foundation to do research to prevent the end, and Dharma happened. Then the incident, and then THF got taken over by badder dudes. Hence the differences between the film and the Hanso depictions we see today.

8/02/2006 11:04:00 AM  
Blogger Crossfade said...

Why is Idaho girls's name in the sequence names? SHe isnt on the leader board.

8/02/2006 11:08:00 AM  
Blogger JGZ350 said...

Interesting find Paco, I'm looking at the data now.

8/02/2006 11:08:00 AM  
Blogger Idaho Girl said...

I just saved my version. Is that why?

8/02/2006 11:10:00 AM  
Blogger NiteSea said...

Paco007 said...

nitesea - in the XML stats do you think the sequence names could be used to help determine the correct order?

The sequence names/ids correspond with the list of the most recently saved user sequences on the front page of HE.com. I don't think they have any significance otherwise

8/02/2006 11:10:00 AM  
Blogger Kenshiro2012 said...

crossfade,
all the sequesnce names section means is a listing of the last people who have saved a sequence. It has nothing to do with who has found what. this section will probably play a big part once all the frags are found

8/02/2006 11:11:00 AM  
Blogger Paco007 said...

nope - sorry. my bad.
I guess the 'sequence' names has to do with users' saved sequences. if you refresh you see that it is constantly changing.

...off to search some more...

8/02/2006 11:11:00 AM  
Blogger Idaho Girl said...

The new clip . . .

The dude writing on the board has written a 4 and his hand moves like an 8.

So are the numbers a date, or are they a measurement of time?

4 decades, 8 years, 15 months, 16 days, 23 hours, 42 minutes.

Or 4/8/15 (2015?) at 16:23:42?

8/02/2006 11:17:00 AM  
Blogger Fenris said...

Okay so the live podcast thing is interesting. But not going to be easy to get through. The new glyph isn't really that interesting as it just tells us what we already knew (I still reckon the twist is that you can take an equation an manipulate the result by altering factors that are being processed within it, therefore the equation itself gives you control over the end of the world, but anyway).

So there is one not found yet. The website updates page I use isn't registering any changes on the usual places, so it's either somewhere outside of the normal or they just haven't released the actual glyph yet (which would be typical).

8/02/2006 11:18:00 AM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

So from what I see:

A portion of the video is a tape that Mittlewerk is showing to people... whom, we are unsure. On this tape there is a man, who many assume is Alvar Hanso, and he is explaining why the Hanso Foundation was formed and what they are trying to do. As for what mittlewerk is stating on the video... we don't know yet... I'd assume he's going to tell the people that they have done their best to follow hanso's plans but now they have a new goal and it will be something evil.


everyone else concur?

8/02/2006 11:20:00 AM  
Blogger Crossfade said...

Interesting thoughts Idaho girl. When did valenzetti release his equation?

8/02/2006 11:20:00 AM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

Cross and Idaho, if he released the equation in the 60's then wouldn't that make doomsday anyday now?

8/02/2006 11:21:00 AM  
Blogger Idaho Girl said...

After 1962 Cross. Has anyone ever said how long it took him to come up with the equation itself?

And how long would it have taken the UN to bury it, and Hanso to create DHARMA himself? Obviously until 1975 for this film.

8/02/2006 11:22:00 AM  
Blogger Crossfade said...

Tapdawg: exactly possibly within the next 2 or so months

8/02/2006 11:22:00 AM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

Didn't hanso start his work in the 60's though?

8/02/2006 11:24:00 AM  
Blogger Crossfade said...

OK, lets say he gave his speech to the un on january 1st 1962: that puts doomsday at...

8/02/2006 11:24:00 AM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

well we were told by TPTB we will find out what the numbers mean in this segment of the game. Thus maybe they are the Valenzetti Equation?

8/02/2006 11:25:00 AM  
Blogger Idaho Girl said...

I think the Mittlewerk part of the video will be the real shock. RB said in her interview that it was who was showing the film and why . . . TWM and to start up DHARMA again?

I think we have only been given TWM clips at all to let us know that there is more to what we are going to see than just the old film. But except for the few we have been given, everything else is putting together the film of information that we pretty much already had from earlier revelations in the ARG.

8/02/2006 11:26:00 AM  
Blogger Crossfade said...

11:42pm March 15, 2011

8/02/2006 11:26:00 AM  
Blogger bacchusyappy said...

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8/02/2006 11:27:00 AM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

idaho... what if it's desmond showing the video... hahahahaha just kidding...

8/02/2006 11:28:00 AM  
Blogger Fenris said...

Some time in 2011?

8/02/2006 11:29:00 AM  
Blogger ORA-29306 said...

what if twm has found out that the dharma initiative has found a way to stop the end of the world, and wants to harness this power to sell to the high bidder. as an actual doomsday device.

maybe his evil plot is to give the ability to controll weither the day comes to someone... who will then rule the world.

thats what i would do anyhow...

>>>$.02 spent. you have $0.00

8/02/2006 11:29:00 AM  
Blogger bacchusyappy said...

So, if we assume that the Valenzetti Equation is the LOST numbers (4 8 15 16 23 42), how would these numbers combine to display the correct prediction of the number of years and months left before humanity extinguishes itself?

Should we assume that this is all to the Valenzetti Equation?

I believe we should consider these numbers to be the "equation", because in Speaker's blog recently, he said that the Valenzetti Equation is not, in fact, an equation.

Wouldn't it make sense that the Valenzetti Equation predicted that humankind would utterly obliterate itself in 42 years and some-odd combination of months?

The rate at which LOST is progressing, timewise ...

Right now, we are in Season 3 and 64-68 days on the island. There are a projected 5 seasons total, according to the exec. prod. team (CC and DL).

At this rate, the show could end with the ultimate question...was Valenzetti right?

Whoever survives on the island will have to face the answer to that question, and what if the end of the world is within his/her/their means to prevent it from happening?

Folks, we may have the numbers backwards...

8/02/2006 11:30:00 AM  
Blogger fitz66 said...

Personally i think it is 4/8/15 16:23:42 b/c then the answer would always be changing and there would be little significane to the numbers

8/02/2006 11:30:00 AM  
Blogger Fenris said...

Too slow. Still five years away, I don't get the big deal.

8/02/2006 11:30:00 AM  
Blogger ORA-29306 said...

btw. what happened to the #lostclues... i cant seem to connect and the web interface is not working for me either... :(

8/02/2006 11:30:00 AM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

hmm if you do it the other way... with 42 years onto 1962... you'll get 2004 or 2005.... and that sounds plausible for the TV show standpoint.

8/02/2006 11:31:00 AM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

Someone want to calculate January 1st, 1962 to this date,

42 years, 23 months, 16 days, 15 hours, 8 minutes, and 4 seconds....

8/02/2006 11:32:00 AM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

just best guessing it... it's December of 2005...

8/02/2006 11:33:00 AM  
Blogger Crossfade said...

3:08:04 November 16th, 2006

8/02/2006 11:34:00 AM  
Blogger bacchusyappy said...

I think it's something like

42 years
4 months
23 days
8 hours
16 minutes
15 seconds

only because 23 months is another 2 years (nearly).

8/02/2006 11:34:00 AM  
Blogger Crossfade said...

My mistake 3:08:04 DECEMBER 16th, 2006

8/02/2006 11:34:00 AM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

Good morning everyone... 'bout to go through the comments, but skimming over the posts, it looks like it's the start of an exciting day! Very excited to be alive and part of this game today... WOOOOHOOOO!!!.... i really gotta cut down on the Mt. Dew... brb.

8/02/2006 11:35:00 AM  
Blogger bacchusyappy said...

This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

8/02/2006 11:36:00 AM  
Blogger Idaho Girl said...

The equation wasn't created until after the Cuban Missle Crisis, which ended October 28, 1962.

I'm going on the assumption that Enzo didn't pull the equation out of the air the next day.

Lostpedia says he reported to the UN less than a year later, though.

8/02/2006 11:36:00 AM  
Blogger AmbientBlu said...

tapdawg, I follow your line of thinking with the numbers and all, but why would such a "sophisticated" equation calculate 42 years, then 23 months? To me, it would make more sense to instead have said 43 years, 11 months.

And what would be your starting point for January 1st, 1962? 12:00?? Also, if Valenzetti started formulating this equation as per the request of the UN in 1962, I don't think his start date, his jumping off point, would be January 1st of that year, unless we're assuming he started calculating on that date ...

More and more questions, never enough answers ...

8/02/2006 11:36:00 AM  
Blogger dizzy said...

You can't difinitively say what the reference date is though.

8/02/2006 11:36:00 AM  
Blogger bacchusyappy said...

Hey, people, the UN commissioned Enzo to create the equation after the Cuban Missile Crisis ended, like idaho said, in Oct. of 1962.

Then, he created it in under a year.

So, I proposed that 42 years from that date in 1963, Enzo began the V. Eq. countdown.

8/02/2006 11:39:00 AM  
Blogger bacchusyappy said...

Or rather, from that date, the V. Eq. was set to predict the end of days at 42 years, 4/8 months, 23/4/8/15/16 days, hours, minutes, and seconds, putting the end of LOST at the end of the world.

8/02/2006 11:41:00 AM  
Blogger Fenris said...

I kinda hope the numbers aren't simply a measurement of time.

If the numbers were the only constants in the equation, that would make more sense and certainly give a real significance to them. If they were just the answer of the equation calculated at some unknown time then they are already almost totally irrelevent.

8/02/2006 11:43:00 AM  
Blogger ccs said...

Random observation:

At the beginning of clip rrgyxs, there's a "glitch" in the video. This doesn't look like the same kind of jumpy editing that causes distortion in the other sequences. To me, it looks like someone is using the "capture a snapshot" feature found on digital video recorders. So Rachel, shooting video of TMW's video presentation, captures a headshot photo of Beardy/Hanso. Who wants to bet we'll be seeing that photo somewhere?

8/02/2006 11:44:00 AM  
Blogger bacchusyappy said...

Well, I guess I speak for everyone when I say

"I can't wait for the 75th fragment because it will probably be part 2 of the chalkboard sequencing that is the Valenzetti Equation". (takes a bow)

8/02/2006 11:44:00 AM  
Blogger Idaho Girl said...

I guess it comes down to if the numbers are the EQUATION or the RESULT.


If they are the equation, there is some math that has to happen there, or there are some calculations that might differ.

If they are the result, then we can start working on if it's 42 years or whatever.

8/02/2006 11:46:00 AM  
Blogger oxillini said...

so this is where everyone went. i gotta pay more attention.

8/02/2006 11:47:00 AM  
Blogger bacchusyappy said...

Fenris, I don't think you recall this, but the Valenzetti Equation, as I mentioned in my first explanation post in this comment section, is not an equation.

And in the film fragment from today, Beardy said the Valenzetti Equation does represent the years and months before humanity extinguishes itself.

So (and this is my leap of faith logic) the numbers are the Valenzetti Equation. It is simple, but we don't know the order of the numbers.

The numbers, as CC and DL have said before, do not have a definite, end-all-in-one-meaning meaning. They said we will never grasp the full story behind the numbers.

8/02/2006 11:49:00 AM  
Blogger Crossfade said...

HAHAHA Jeep just recalled ALL 2002-2006 Liberty Suv's/ Bad front suspension. LOL

8/02/2006 11:49:00 AM  
Blogger Paco007 said...

Re: the numbers
I dunno all...

Typically these shows are only written a couple episodes ahead of each other. Although they may have an idea of the overall arc, I doubt they've determined exactly what the signifigance of most of the clues is.

I have little faith that it's all thought out that well. (especially since I used to work at Disney ;)

8/02/2006 11:50:00 AM  
Blogger Idaho Girl said...

Bacchus, I think Speaker said his post wasn't serious. I'm pretty sure it's an equation.

8/02/2006 11:51:00 AM  
Blogger bacchusyappy said...

Paco, are you kidding me?!?

These writers, independent of the deus ex machina, mega-Disney-tron, would never introduce something like "the numbers" without knowing how they'd play out.

Sorry, but have a little faith, brotha.

8/02/2006 11:52:00 AM  
Blogger mikeyp228 said...

Are you serious crossfade about the recall. I own a 2004 jeep liberty where did you see recall at

8/02/2006 11:54:00 AM  
Blogger oxillini said...

ok what if the numbers are events, not dates. i.e. the world ends when, say, world war 4 breaks out and the 8th country is invaded and 15 yada yada yada and 42 nukes are launched?

8/02/2006 11:54:00 AM  
Blogger Paco007 said...

Bacchus - Yeah really - that's how Alias rolled for years. It's just part of how it's done now.

8/02/2006 11:54:00 AM  
Blogger Idaho Girl said...

I think this show is more planned than most TV shows are.

How else would they tie together events from the Tailies and the main group, the timing with the events of the hatch, etc. (I won't say more because of spoilers, but you should get my drift.)

And I read somewhere that the development of the show created the beginning AND the end. They are just filling in the middle now.

8/02/2006 11:55:00 AM  
Blogger jpike001 said...

so where has everyone been searching for the 23rd glyph so far

8/02/2006 11:55:00 AM  
Blogger oxillini said...

mikey: yup it's real 800,000 plus vehicles recalled

8/02/2006 11:56:00 AM  
Blogger Crossfade said...

MikeyP: I'm serious it was just on the news.

8/02/2006 11:57:00 AM  
Blogger Paco007 said...

Alright... well I 'm going to say I have to agree to disagree on this one.

...I bet my GF who works for ABC will agree with me though.. ;-)

8/02/2006 11:57:00 AM  
Blogger arichards said...

Has anyone been having any problems with the new clip playing completely? It just plays for a second and stops and when I click to view it locks up. I tried adding it again but it still doesn't play the whole clip. Any suggestions or is this just another glick in HE.com?

8/02/2006 11:58:00 AM  
Blogger mikeyp228 said...

Looks like ill be headin to the dealership soon then!!! Thanks for the info. I wonder if hanso had anything to do with this??? JK

8/02/2006 11:58:00 AM  
Blogger oxillini said...

thought that sounded familiar! they were also recalled in 2003 for essentially the same problem

8/02/2006 11:58:00 AM  
Blogger bacchusyappy said...

Playfully, I will retort by saying that isn't Rhode Island neither a road, nor an island?

So, by that logic ...

I also just checked the comments for that post. He does say that

"You guys needed a new thread...I had nothing to say....Linda Richman popped into my head.

I make no sense. :)".

But he doesn't deny that it's true what he said.

All seriousness aside, he may have been joking. Even still though, is the fact that in the western world, at least, there are only numbers in our years and months, not variables.

8/02/2006 11:58:00 AM  
Blogger maven said...

We probably won't get any big earth shattering reveals in these frags until the last one!

tapdawg: Yes, I've thought that, too, all along. TWM forced Alvar out in the early 90's by blackmailing the Board of Directors. DHARMA was originally a good thing for the benefit of mankind to survice Valenzetti's doomsday prediction. But, after Alvar was forced out, TWM took all of the research and is now doing something evil with it. Maybe he (and the savants) figured out how to manipulate the end date or he knows the exact date. But he's briefing these new scientists, setting up the SPIDER Protocol (some kind of EM/RH shield using off-shore antennas), and shipping a lot of "stuff" to the island. Don't think the end island is Sri Lanka, though.

8/02/2006 12:00:00 PM  
Blogger Paco007 said...

Idaho - it's just a matter of putting hooks in as you go along, and then writing a back story to match it.

I agree that things are planned, but I the details are left to be fleshed out at the episode level.

8/02/2006 12:01:00 PM  
Blogger oxillini said...

mikey: when you get your jeep back from the dealer, search it for glyphs. rachel is everywhere, man!

8/02/2006 12:02:00 PM  
Blogger smokey2271 said...

What if it is a survival clock- how long could humans live after a catastrophic global event? Because of the numerous ways life could end on Earth, I think it would make more sense to calculate how much time we would have to survive after something globally catastrophic occurs than an equation on how long we have until someone stupid/crazy enough uses the bomb.
Along with Nuclear weapons we have the threat of comets and asteroids hitting us, pandemics, a supervolcano exploding (causing blocking of sunlight), radical shift of the poles of the planet, alien invasion... It seems like we'd be more worried about the how of survival of the species in more than one scenario than nuclear war, and with that many variables you couldn't say the world will end on a particular day and hour, but you could try to calculate how long we could last after such a thing happened without some effort to protect anyone, and I imagine things wouldn't look good.

Just a thought....

8/02/2006 12:03:00 PM  
Blogger Hagbard Celine said...

anybody find glyph 23?

8/02/2006 12:04:00 PM  
Blogger Andrew said...

Has anyone noticed (and this may be a glitch) that when moving around the clips in the sequence that sometimes the clip that you are moving fades behind oone clip but goes on top of the other. This may sound petty, but it seems to be random. I am not a webpage designer but if someone who is could look at it, it may give us some kindof clue to maybe the order or something. It just seems like there is something more to it. Let me know what y'all think of it.

8/02/2006 12:05:00 PM  
Blogger mikeyp228 said...

ox i will check the glove box first thing for glyphs. hehehe

8/02/2006 12:05:00 PM  
Blogger wendyzski said...

wondering that myself - just logged in and HE shows 23 fragments released

8/02/2006 12:05:00 PM  
Blogger Fenris said...

Bachusyappy. A few things there. Firstly, Speaker has said that Rachel definetly ISNT Persephone. He changed his mind later. What this tells you is that you can't take what Speaker says as absoloute fact.

How can an equation not be an equation? How can you calculate anything without an equation and what would be the relevence of it anyway. I mean if there is no actual calculation going on, how does he know that answer and from what point is it calculated. Frankly if Valencetti just went away and said - There is no equation, but I reckon the world will end in this silly number of years, decades, hours, minutes, seconds, from...um, well when I first decided on those numbers, then it would definetly have to make my list (of dumbest things I've ever heard).

"And in the film fragment from today, Beardy said the Valenzetti Equation does represent the years and months before humanity extinguishes itself."

I believe it says "It predicts the exact number of years and months". It doesn't say it represents. It is it's function and that is something we already knew. You can't just assume that the numbers are now the answer just from that sentance.

"So (and this is my leap of faith logic) the numbers are the Valenzetti Equation. It is simple, but we don't know the order of the numbers."

I'm not so sure. I am certain the numbers figure in it. But I am sticking to the idea that the numbers are part of the equation and not the answer to the equation. Time is, unfortunatly variable and that throws a spanner into the works into the relevence of the numbers themselves if they are indeed the answer. Because this video is being shown TODAY, and these numbers are now completely and utterly irrelevent under your theory because time has moved on and it is no longer how long until the end of the world.

Also you have to consider the role of those Savants. If there was a hard answer and it was the numbers, we'd have to assume Mittlewerk and co. would know those numbers (I mean, the guy is writting them on that board right?) and so why mess around with autistic savants running the equation through their heads??? Why would they run those numbers though their head if they are only relevent at the exact point in time Valencetti came up with the answer?

However if the numbers are the only constants in a long and drawn out equation then these Savants would have a very genuine reason to keep running the numbers through their heads and the numbers would be now and always will be vital to the equation.

The defence rests.

The numbers, as CC and DL have said before, do not have a definite, end-all-in-one-meaning meaning. They said we will never grasp the full story behind the numbers."

8/02/2006 12:07:00 PM  
Blogger mikeyp228 said...

No hagbard 23rd glyph not found yet i have computer set up to instantly notify me if and when it is found still out there floating around or not posted yet on speakers, ninja, rot,...etc site maybe later today

8/02/2006 12:08:00 PM  
Blogger Fenris said...

Oops, left an extra bit of quote on the end.

8/02/2006 12:10:00 PM  
Blogger mikeyp228 said...

Hey i just thought of a great new slogan for sprite. "press F5 to refresh!!!"

8/02/2006 12:13:00 PM  
Blogger Mary said...

Could Leonard from the mental institute somehow be related to the autistic savants?

8/02/2006 12:13:00 PM  
Blogger oxillini said...

mary: that's possible, but i'm not sure that would add anything to the story.

8/02/2006 12:15:00 PM  
Blogger Fenris said...

Lol Mikey, good idea. I'd copyright it and then email their advertising people if I were you :)

8/02/2006 12:16:00 PM  
Blogger mikeyp228 said...

good idea fenris didnt think i should of copyrighted it before i posted it. If hanso is watching us it could already be to late.

8/02/2006 12:19:00 PM  
Blogger Idaho Girl said...

It's unlikely that an autistic sevant would have been in the Navy, which is how Leonard supposedly heard the numbers.

8/02/2006 12:24:00 PM  
Blogger ular98 said...

mikey has to be very smart to teach a computer how to tell if the latest glyph has been found. Guess I will just hang on to your coat tails...lol

8/02/2006 12:25:00 PM  
Blogger bacchusyappy said...

Fenris, do you think that whatever is being written on the board will be the Valenzetti Equation? Or that we will see the Valenzetti Equation?

It sounds like it would be complicated....you know, it being a doomsday-predicting equation. If you think that CC and DL would allow for the Valenzetti Equation to be 42x^5-15x^3+16x^4-4x^2+8x=23, then we should all stop caring and investing so much speculation into what the numbers really are.

I seriously doubt it, and in reality, the equation is definitely not as interesting as the result, which is (in my opinion) some combination of the numbers, representing the years and months counting down from 1963 to doomsday.

Also, who out of all us TLEers has the foggiest clue what the sevants are actually doing? I will agree that in my argument, I did not consider the sevants' roles, but that's because I don't have a clue what they are doing in Sri Lanka or were doing at the Vik Institute.

I doubt anyone can intelligently speculate on their role or whether Mittelwerk is running "the numbers" through their heads or something else.

8/02/2006 12:25:00 PM  
Blogger ib4uc said...

Anyone check out Ninja's blog lately? Doesn't it appear that something is on the 'label' of the shaker, possibly a glyph?

8/02/2006 12:27:00 PM  
Blogger bacchusyappy said...

i think that's a vacuum tube, ib4uc.

8/02/2006 12:28:00 PM  
Blogger mikeyp228 said...

actually i have a website watching program that tells me ( rather i have set up to play loud annoying sound clip) when a change has been made to
http://hansoexposed.com/xml/statistics

8/02/2006 12:29:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

ib4uc: it's the vacuum tube transporter thingimajig from the Pearl... but you got me to jump over there pretty quick..

8/02/2006 12:29:00 PM  
Blogger mikeyp228 said...

unforthunately it doesnt tell me where the clue is before someone else finds it or else i would own the top 20 list mwahahahahahaha which of course as you can see i am no where to be found :(

8/02/2006 12:30:00 PM  
Blogger ib4uc said...

I really couldn't tell what it was. Shaker seemed the most logical...

8/02/2006 12:31:00 PM  
Blogger NiteSea said...

is there a Lost rerun on in the US tonight?... could it be we have to wait until then for the new glyph?

8/02/2006 12:33:00 PM  
Blogger oxillini said...

bacchus: i'm 100% certain we will never see the equation written out (at least not in its entirety) for one thing, to preserve realism, twm and hanso would never let anyone see it (this was a discussion point regarding the hieroglyphs being used in the equation in the vik basement). second, tptb would be seriously underestimating the capabilities of the tlec community to think any fake equatio they threw out there wouldn't be ripped to shreds by mathematicians and statisticians in the audience.

8/02/2006 12:34:00 PM  
Blogger ular98 said...

yes, there is a rerun tonight in the usa

8/02/2006 12:36:00 PM  
Blogger ular98 said...

One of Them is the rerun.

8/02/2006 12:37:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

mikey: that's a great idea tho... maybe I should set something up to do the same... that Lost ARG is worthless... (sorry if the person who created it is lurking)

nitesea: apparently it's just a George Lopez night tonight on ABC...

8/02/2006 12:39:00 PM  
Blogger jpike001 said...

there isn't a rerun on tonight where I live...it's George Lopez then Primetime

8/02/2006 12:39:00 PM  
Blogger ular98 said...

oh..I am in San Antonio TX. area, it has Lost on at 8:00 Central on the online listings

8/02/2006 12:42:00 PM  
Blogger bacchusyappy said...

oxillini, you're exactly right, and you're enforcing my point.

thanks!

8/02/2006 12:42:00 PM  
Blogger Melissa_Lossa said...

ox - I was just thinking the same thing. No matter what kind of equation they put out there, SOMEONE in TLE would be able to either solve it or prove it to be nonsense. And I think they'll want to able to make it mean whatever they want it to mean... did that make any sense?

Like "The VE says that doomsday is December 31, 2012 - we can't show you the equation, but trust us, that's what it said."

8/02/2006 12:44:00 PM  
Blogger mikeyp228 said...

i agree with them never giving us a full glimpse of the equation. wouldnt make sense cuz like you said oxillini there would be mathematicians tear it apart and it would detract from them trying to get us to believe this is "real"

8/02/2006 12:44:00 PM  
Blogger NiteSea said...

tvguide.com os showing abc has GL from 8-9 and lost 9-10... perhaps it's different in different areas?

8/02/2006 12:45:00 PM  
Blogger ular98 said...

hmmm...that must be a local listing for San Antonio...I have Directv and when I looked on that log it show George for about 3 hrs.

8/02/2006 12:45:00 PM  
Blogger ChopsShaw said...

New clue released.......

8/02/2006 12:45:00 PM  
Blogger mikeyp228 said...

new clue released where?? do tell chopsshaw. we know the new glyph has been released and not found if that is what you are refering to

8/02/2006 12:46:00 PM  
Blogger ChopsShaw said...

o my bad.....#23?

8/02/2006 12:49:00 PM  
Blogger korijane said...

maybe TWM knows that the numbers represent the result of the equation (in years, months, days, etc.) but not the specific date they're counting from. Maybe that's why the savants are re-running the equation over and over again. Plugging in new "start dates" to find one that works.

8/02/2006 12:50:00 PM  
Blogger mikeyp228 said...

on another side note i am so excited to hear that this season(3) they are going to get rid of all those darned reruns. That was the 1 thing i hated the most about the show. Heres 2 new episodes now you have to wait a month for 2 more.Unlike my other favorite show 24 which starts and bang bang bang just starts firing new episodes week after week. Looks like ABC finally got the point

8/02/2006 12:51:00 PM  
Blogger NoIQ said...

I think the solution to the Valenzetti Equation simply will be 42 (it is one of the numbers, after all).

And then we will be told Armgeddon will occur when a race of aliens decides to obliterate the earth to make a new inter-galactic highway... The final clue will come under the heading "Goodbye and thanks for all the fish."

All the people in TLEC will definitely understand the logic in that solution, and there will be no objections.

8/02/2006 12:52:00 PM  
Blogger ChopsShaw said...

has the "DI9FFTR751" always been there on letyourcompassguideyou ???

8/02/2006 12:53:00 PM  
Blogger MissMegs said...

LOL, noiq.

8/02/2006 12:53:00 PM  
Blogger turtl3s said...

Mandrake Wig is online now at MySpace. For some reason I can't IM him. Is there anyone who has done that before who can hop over to MySpace and see if he has 23?

8/02/2006 12:53:00 PM  
Blogger oxillini said...

chopsshaw: yes, that's been there for quite some time. also appears in the show several times. lostpedia has an entry on it.

mikey: good news, no reruns. bad news nothing for 12 weeks after the first 6 episodes of the season. those are supposed to play out as almost a mini series.

8/02/2006 12:56:00 PM  
Blogger Kenshiro2012 said...

of course 42 is the answer! 42 is the ultimate answer to life the universe and everything. this was shown to be the case in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Answer_to_Life,_the_Universe,_and_Everything

sorry, had to say it :P

8/02/2006 12:57:00 PM  
Blogger Melissa_Lossa said...

mikey - I'm with you onthe whole rerun thing. It sucks having to wait until January for 24, but it is so great to be able to watch a new one every week. More shows should do that!

8/02/2006 12:57:00 PM  
Blogger Dazzedelf said...

Nothing on Manny's myspace page, I sent him a message through Myspace, but I'm not expecting a reply.

8/02/2006 12:58:00 PM  
Blogger Melissa_Lossa said...

BTW - Just heard the news today that


****spoiler for season 3****






Desmond (Henry Ian Cusick) just signed on as a series regular for season 3!

8/02/2006 12:59:00 PM  
Blogger belly0fdesire said...

chopshaw: yeah... always been there... not a glyph code...

I agree that they will not release the actual Valenzetti equation... we would have it disproved within minutes of it's release... it would take the mystery out of it... a lot of us have it in our head that this is all possible.. agless orangutans, super magnetic islands with an amazing ability to heal, hurley hurley birds, giant foot statues... why not? we have no way of debunking any of it... and until they actually give us something, like a formula, that we can disprove, it could all be possible... kinda...

8/02/2006 01:06:00 PM  
Blogger Fenris said...

Baach, gotta say your not convincing me. The numbers are more interesting to me as the constants in the equation then an answer calculated way back and no longer actually the answer to the equation from the current point in time. You don't have the exact starting point and really, if they did mention that in this video, why would they say it's X Y Z until the end of the world from A B C, when they can just give us an exact date instead? It's pointlessly long and just to figure the numbers in there. If they are part of the question that makes a lot more sense and does fit in with the Vik institute stuff. Personally I would find it more interesting if the numbers are actually always relevent to the equation.

Also do you really think the equation is totally fixed? Because if it is then what can Rachel or anyone else really do about it. The world will end, and that's all there is to it. Time to overthrow Dharma and get on that island I guess.

However if the numbers are part of the question then the answer can be variable depending on what the other factors are. X Y Z whatever, we don't know these and they are what makes the equation both scientifically viable and vague enough to use in a work of fiction. Obviously they can't give us a checkable, simple equation. For a start it'd make for a poor book and invalidate the Vik stuff, but it would also be kind of silly. I mean, if we are to believe that this was from the worlds greatest mathematitian then I damn well hope I can't understand it myself. I think we have to face up to the fact that we are not going to be given an equation that we can figure out for ourselves. That'd make a mockery of the whole plot and I can't see them doing it.

As for losing interest if they are in the question. Well you said yourself the numbers do not have a definite end-all-in-one-meaning, that means that the real question and mystery on the numbers is WHY are they the constants in the equation. There must be something eart shatteringly special about them (then again what's so special about 3.142, but nevermind).

Also, if we did know when, what would that really mean? How would it effect us and the Arg? Would it tell us where Alvar Hanso is? No, would it explain Mittlewerks goals? No. Would it tell us Rachels dark *ahem* secret. No. It's a bit like the finale of the x-files. I mean did anyone really not feel disapointed that it was just "the alient invasion is scheduled for [date]"?

Anyway, that's my feelings on the matter.

8/02/2006 01:06:00 PM  
Blogger Eugene said...

re: Manny online.....I asked him about some help in the hunt and his reply was:

That is one subject that I'm not allowed to comment on. All I can say is, "look elsewhere."


Oh well.

8/02/2006 01:07:00 PM  
Blogger Fenris said...

Damn it that took ages to post. I used html style brackets until I realised that was stopping me getting it posted. Lol.

Anyway, glad Desmond will be a regular, but not suprised. Everyone I know thought he was brilliant in S2.

8/02/2006 01:08:00 PM  
Blogger mikeyp228 said...

they almost need to have him as a regular now with the way they ended season 2

8/02/2006 01:11:00 PM  
Blogger mikeyp228 said...

it would really make for some great tv though if during the next season they came across a bunch of lost playboy playmates that got stranded on the island since they keep killing off all the females on the show what a better way to replace them

8/02/2006 01:15:00 PM  
Blogger lostatlaw said...

Is anyone having a problem with saving their sequences on Hansoexposed?

There have been multiple times where I have placed all of my fragements in a sequence and have saved that sequence... but then the next time I log in to the site a number of my fragments are back in my storage tray. It's really frustrating.

Any advice as to how to fix the problem?

Thanks!

8/02/2006 01:15:00 PM  
Blogger Melissa_Lossa said...

fenris - Amen on the x-files finale. How lame was that?! I agree, having this whole story boil down to getting the answer to an equation would be anti-climactic.

8/02/2006 01:16:00 PM  
Blogger DoubleT said...

First post!!! On http://www.richerdeeperbroader.com/ press products and look above the back wheel of the verizon van/truck. glyph code?

8/02/2006 01:16:00 PM  
Blogger Dazzedelf said...

Lostatlaw: I've had that same problem. I've found the only way to fix it, is to clear my browser's cache, refresh the page and then save the sequence, it's a giant pain in the arse but there really isn't anyone to complain to if you have site problems. Any problems you report to abc will be answered with "Due to extreme amounts of people visiting the site at the same time, it can not be expected to work properly." It's a great helpdesk excuse.

8/02/2006 01:18:00 PM  
Blogger Melissa_Lossa said...

doublet - nice catch, but I think it's a phone number. Looks like 1-888-GET-FIOS.

Welcome, by the way and please post some more!


wv: egyok.... eggyolk?

8/02/2006 01:20:00 PM  
Blogger Fenris said...

Mikey - Preach on brother!

Lostatlaw - Yeah that happens to me all the time. So much so I've given up trying to find the correct sequence until I have all of the parts.

Melissa - Yeah totally lame. But I did like that subtle little bit where Mulder and Scully essentially told their replacements to F off out of their show. Lol. Okay maybe that was just my interperetation. X-Files is a good example of a show that went on way too long. I would have said 2 seasons tops for a show like that. We can get more out of lost but I hope it doesn't degrade until we're on 8 seasons, none of the origional cast and/or writters and no one really caring how it ends. But anyway, I already know when the world will end so I've got no interest in that. (cue evil laugh)

8/02/2006 01:20:00 PM  
Blogger smokey2271 said...

mikey if they were trying to repopulate the Earth, they would be in serious trouble,lol... too many chefs and not enough pots so to speak ;o)

Of course, I can't complain about the beefcake to girl ratio - except that I'm not stranded there too....

8/02/2006 01:21:00 PM  
Blogger DoubleT said...

Thanks for the welcome. :) I will keep searching.

8/02/2006 01:23:00 PM  
Blogger seeker336 said...

doublet:

Don't think so. Looks more like it's supposed to be a 1-866 number. Also, remenber codes are "supposed" to be inside glyphs.

Cheers.

Happy searchin'!!

8/02/2006 01:24:00 PM  
Blogger NoIQ said...

Fenris -- I agree. I think the X-Files legacy would have been far stronger if they had finished the series right before the movie, wnd then made a better movie. It almost certainly would have ensured a sequel, and my guess is it would have allowed far greater creativity than most of the shows from the 6th season on. There were admittedly several I liked, but far more (especially in the final three seasons) that I didn't.

On the other hand, some shows maintain their creative edge. I think 24's recently completed 5th season was arguably its strongest to date.

8/02/2006 01:25:00 PM  
Blogger Dazzedelf said...

While the codes are supposed to be inside glphys that doesnt' always appear to be the case, especially when the codes appear in the middle of podcasts or on wrist bracelets ;)

8/02/2006 01:25:00 PM  
Blogger Fenris said...

I like Doctor Strangeloves idea on re-populating the earth after an apocalypse. Hehe.

8/02/2006 01:27:00 PM  
Blogger NoIQ said...

doublet -- that was a nice catch. I agree with the posters who believe it's a telephone number, but I am impressed you even spied it. So a very good introductory post...

8/02/2006 01:27:00 PM  
Blogger Dazzedelf said...

Fenris, I agree, Strangelove's idea was most excellent. And considering that by the time we get all 70 video fragments the date the valenzetti equation is supposed to reveal will already have happened, I believe we should start looking for a suitable site for the shelter immediately ;)

8/02/2006 01:29:00 PM  
Blogger Fenris said...

I have to admit, I've missed out in 24. I didn't hear about it until about hour 18 of season one, then I decided it wasn't worth watching 18 hours of catch up and no 5 seasons in and the idea of getting up to date is such a daunting one I don't know if it'll ever happen.

But I'm happy to come back to it in ten years time or whenever I next run out of things on TV to watch.

8/02/2006 01:30:00 PM  
Blogger DoubleT said...

Thanks noiq, I will look out for anything else that catches my eye, hopefully with a glyph around it. ;)

8/02/2006 01:33:00 PM  
Blogger Fenris said...

You know as much as I bad mouth the X-Files these days, there was a time it was my favorite show and I still cared enough to tune in for the finale even though I knew in my heart of hearts it was going to be terrible.

The problem was a show like that needed to develope a lot more then it did. You can only go on so long not finding the truth. Really Mulder could have turned into a giant scaley dragon beast and started terrorizing Tokyo with his firery breath and laser eyes and it would still have seemed not quite big enough for the years and years of build up.

Fortunatly I think Damon and co have got it right with Lost. They know the series needs to develope and in many ways each season needs to have it's own unique feel. We will find out big answers along the way, even if we keep having more questions crop up to keep things mysterious. I actually get the impression they have paid close attention to what went wrong with X-Files and are doing there best to do this absoloutly right.

Of course if they mess it up, I'll start building a wicker man for them on Worthing seafront. Bwhahahah.

No, seriouslly, I have faith in them.

8/02/2006 01:37:00 PM  
Blogger NightmareMommie said...

Sorry I haven't been around alot lately guys. It's just that this 3rd part of the game is kinda boring...Any of you feel that way. I don't know why, I'm just not too into this third act.

8/02/2006 01:38:00 PM  
Blogger lostatlaw said...

dazzedelf and fenris:

Thanks for your quick responses. I'm happy to hear I'm not the only one having these problems. Hopefully the site will work out these bugs soon...

8/02/2006 01:38:00 PM  
Blogger Fenris said...

Right, I'm off for dinner and my recording of Brisco County Jnr, see you all later.

8/02/2006 01:38:00 PM  
Blogger NoIQ said...

fenris --

I too think the creative team is familiar with the best/worst of X-Files. I mean the casting of Terry O'Quinn, who appeared in the moview and was a regular on Millenium by itself almost guarantees it. And wasn't the guy who plays Henry Gale an X-File character too?

I have read repeatedly that the writers from top to bottom say that when a mystery is introduced in Lost, they already have an answer to it -- even if we may take a long time to learn what it is. The solution to the numbers therefore must have been worked out in Season 1. The Valenzetti Equation appeared in the Blast Door Map.

The monster has yet to be explained, but it's clear the writers already have an idea/explanation for what it is. Also, there are fun ones people may have forgotten about -- like the two bodies Jack found in the cave in season 1, and the mysterious pebbles that accompanied them that he kept. I think their relevance will re-appear.

I am hoping that the main lesson that the Lost crew learned from the X-Files is, in fact, that there must be an effective, and over-riding solution to the mystery, and that it is not enough to keep interjecting one mystery on top of another without true resolution of the overall theme.

8/02/2006 01:44:00 PM  
Blogger mikeyp228 said...

i to didnt start watching 24 until the third season had started i had an unlimited rental pass from blockbuster and decided one day to rent and copy started watching it and was hooked i started watching 3-4 epidsodes a week and in several months i was caught up one of the best shows ever!!!

8/02/2006 01:46:00 PM  
Blogger Melissa_Lossa said...

Fenris - If you're still on, I agree about the x-files. It completely collapsed under the weight of its own mythology. Lost seems to be handling that a bit better, answering even a few questions along the way. And there was a time when I was OBSESSED with the X-Files. I also love that you're watching Brisco! I just got the series on DVD and I can't wait to watch them all again. Now THAT was some wacky mythology.

And you should really try 24 out on DVD. Just pick up season 1 and give it a go. Well worth it, I promise. And Desmond was in season five! :)

Noiq - you're right this last season of 24 was killer. I think that's a good example of a show that keeps things fresh enough to keep going.

8/02/2006 01:48:00 PM  
Blogger Idaho Girl said...

Tell me if I'm totally nuts here, but I had a thought while reading through all of this.

WHAT IF . . .

Ok, so the VE is a prediction of the end of humanity, etc. If it's a prediction/result, it's a probability based on existing data. At the time it was calculated we had a Soviet Union and a cold war, not to mention several other factors that no longer exist.

So Hanso et al create DHARMA and set out to save the world/humanity, but after the cold war ends and the USSR desolves, they cut funding to the program because it's no longer an accurate prediction.

THEN you have Tommy Mittlewerk taking over and he gathers a group of mathy folks and savants and has them crunch through everything again, with current events, and they come up with a new probability, which leads TWM to start a new DHARMA project in a new location, showing the historical film to the new group of scientists that will be involved.

Am I insane in my thinking here??

8/02/2006 01:49:00 PM  
Blogger volsnvikes said...

I think the she-spud is on to something.

8/02/2006 01:51:00 PM  
Blogger cubeberg said...

mikeyp228 - what software are you using to monitor the xml file? I'd love to have something like that on my pc.

8/02/2006 01:52:00 PM  
Blogger Melissa_Lossa said...

noiq - you're right about the mysteries... I think Lost is much more planned out than the x-files ever was. That show just really started to wander after a while. Lost seems to have more of a plan. Let's hope so, anyway!

And you're right - Henry Gale was on one of the last x-files episodes, the one with the Brady House.

8/02/2006 01:53:00 PM  
Blogger Crossfade said...

Idahogirl: It makes a lot of sense, good thinking.

8/02/2006 01:55:00 PM  
Blogger Weezknight said...

Okay, I've officially spent way too much time looking for #22. The last time this happened, all of the sudden Ninja found the glyph on a telephone pole. I guess I'll just wait until they feed it to us.

I wish instead of us having to blindly hunt for these, they'd actually give us a clue to find them. Otherwise we're all just wasting our time.

8/02/2006 01:58:00 PM  
Blogger oxillini said...

idaho: i keep thinking along the same lines regarding the answer to the VE. really, it can't produce an exact date, only a distribution of probablities that the world will end on any given date. but things (valenzetti equation.com, the video snippets, etc.) keep saying it gives an exact date. that really bugs me for two reasons. one it's basically impossible. two, it runs the risk of becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy. knowing an exact end date would plunge the world into chaos and anarchy leading to armageddon itself, possibly faster than even the VE could predict. very troublesome when i try to wrap my mind around this.

8/02/2006 01:58:00 PM  
Blogger Twinkle said...

oxillini:Maybe that's what's supposed to be bugging Rachel too.

Since we're talking about the Valenzetti equation, I've got a joke that kind of relates.

Anybody bored enough to hear it or are you fixated on finding the glyph?

8/02/2006 02:01:00 PM  
Blogger MiTYH said...

hdjust wondering.. has anyone done anything with the code:
aagyx5

i found it when I clicked on instructions on the hansoexposed website.

as of now it doesnt work though

8/02/2006 02:01:00 PM  
Blogger ular98 said...

I find it boring to keep going over and over the same sites looking..then a min. after you looked at a site someone says it is there...where you just looked. Easier to wait until someone tells you where it is and keep busying with something more productive in the mean time.

8/02/2006 02:03:00 PM  
Blogger oxillini said...

twinkle: i'll bite.

8/02/2006 02:03:00 PM  
Blogger volsnvikes said...

@Mityh

I think it is rrgyxs. It was the second one we found.

8/02/2006 02:04:00 PM  
Blogger a_restless_heart said...

:sigh:

So many theories, yet so little to work with.

My reaction summarised in 2 words: corporate mutiny. It's disturbing what greed can propagate and propel. To quote Kanye West's single, "The prettiest people do the ugliest things / for the road to riches and diamond rings."

.... Far be it from me to imply that Mittelwerk is pretty. But the man in the stock photo for Thompson was pretty hot. HAH!

And I still want to know who Liddy is! Liddy = Libby? Bleh.

8/02/2006 02:07:00 PM  
Blogger ib4uc said...

I posted this earlier -- go to Ninja's blog. It has a picture of a vacumn tube thingy and the logo looks like it might have a glyph on it. I've tried to make it bigger/clearer with no success.

8/02/2006 02:22:00 PM  
Blogger scoutpost said...

Idaho and Oxi- I think you are right re: VE. The world has changed dramatically since the end of the cold war. So any doomsday calculation would have to be redone. Thinking that must be what TWM is working on. Maybe that's why DHARMA folded and now they're trying to redo everything from scratch.

I am so glad to see good discussion back on here- to have something to discuss. It's been way too quiet the past few days.

8/02/2006 02:24:00 PM  
Blogger Beana said...

When you click on the pic from Lost Ninja's actual blog the end of the URL is this:

ymkCkB8CrVwFtCGc

I tried entering that code, but it did not work for me. Unless I typed it wrong, I don't think that's it.

B

8/02/2006 02:26:00 PM  
Blogger scoutpost said...

Agree with everyone about looking for glyphs. I've spent so much effort looking for them only to have poor luck in timing or only to have speaker or ninja hand it to us. no fun in that.


ular98- you're in San Antonio area- love SA, we used to live in Houston.

8/02/2006 02:27:00 PM  
Blogger oxillini said...

ib4uc: i don't see a glyph on the tube. i DO see 3M on the tape on the bottom. quick, everyone look at your roll of duct tape!

8/02/2006 02:36:00 PM  
Blogger ular98 said...

I was raised in Northcentral TX. lived all over the usa and in southeast asia...moved to SA about 5 yrs. ago. It is pretty but hot and humid as you know LOL

8/02/2006 02:41:00 PM  
Blogger ib4uc said...

oxillini: on the logo, the portion that is directly south, in the 1st space looks like it contains letters/numbers. But they're too small to make out. Probably nothing through.

8/02/2006 02:42:00 PM  
Blogger ular98 said...

has anyone else found the new Lost Mag.? I went to several large books stores yesterday and they all agree it should be out but none have had it shipped to them yet. Wonder how the one who got the glyph got the mag?

8/02/2006 02:44:00 PM  
Blogger Idaho Girl said...

They subscribe Ular

8/02/2006 02:47:00 PM  
Blogger Perminisconious said...

beana--I also tried copying and pasting that sequence, and got nothing. I also tried making it all just capital letters, then lowercase letters, and still nothing. =(

8/02/2006 02:49:00 PM  
Blogger ular98 said...

That is what hubby told me to do. He is tired of running around every 2 months looking for it with me. LOL

8/02/2006 02:49:00 PM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

i also have a jeep liberty 2004 :^(

8/02/2006 02:55:00 PM  
Blogger punchy sue said...

Hey! Is anyone else having problems getting the Mittlewerk ads to come up on the DJ Dan website?

THANX
SUSAN

8/02/2006 02:56:00 PM  
Blogger Twinkle said...

oxillini: Are you still on? My internet went down! I'm on my neighbor's unsecured network. teehee How's that for building suspense!?

Here it is:

Vik Institute Mental Health Test

1) Fill a bathtub.

2) Offer the patient a diabetic syringe, a tablespoon, and a five gallon bucket and ask him or her to empty the bathtub.

-Escort those that use any of the items directly to check-in.

-Excuse those that pulled out the tub stopper.

-Those who correctly tabulated that it would take 185,130 syringes, 12,903 tablespoons, or 10.2 buckets to empty the bathtub may proceed immediately to basement.

inspired by an e-mail joke

8/02/2006 02:58:00 PM  
Blogger Twinkle said...

That bad, huh?

8/02/2006 03:17:00 PM  
Blogger AmbientBlu said...

according to the xml feed for hansoexposed (only because I am too lazy to load the actual site), there are currently 18,605 gamers registered at the site. HOW is it possible that with almost 19,000 players in every country on every continent in every time zone, we are not able to find glyph #22?? There is NO rhyme or reason to this. Glyph 23 is easily accessible on one of our IG sites, but for the life of me, I cannot find 22. I have scoured every site we've seen come into play, and can't imagine where else it could be located. Not even so much as a Speaker convoluted clue. TPTB, you are not my friends anymore!

8/02/2006 03:19:00 PM  
Blogger NiteSea said...

tough crowd, twinkle ;)

8/02/2006 03:22:00 PM  
Blogger NiteSea said...

ambient: I think we've all resigned to the fact that it hasn't actually been put out there yet. My theory is it will be in the commercials of the rerun on ABC tonight.

8/02/2006 03:23:00 PM  
Blogger firesign3000 said...

ambient -
probably because the glyph hasnt been revealed yet. i suspect we'll see it during the repeat tonight.

8/02/2006 03:24:00 PM  

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