Clue #91 - Fragment Codes "VOU8VPNPS5X", "750NZF8X", "NZ59", & "e82kni8l"
Fragment Code "VOU8VPNPS5X" was found at the physical location of King's Comics at 310 Pitt St. in Sydney, Australia! This was hinted at by the Lost Ninja in THIS POST. The video fragment is of Mittelwerk saying, "So now we have to take radical action."
Fragment Code "750NZF8X" was found in a text messaging service in the UK mentioned by The Other Girl in her August 3rd post. The text message gives you a link to a glyph that can be seen by clicking here. The video fragment is of Mr. Beardy saying, "The equation is the brainchild of the mathematician, Enzo Valenzetti."
Fragment Code "NZ59" was found in an Australian Yahoo video on this website. Click "Watch Ep 223's Secret Clue" (Many people have been having trouble getting this Yahoo video to play). The video fragment is of Mittelwerk saying, "So when you go in, you have to keep up with story."
Fragment Code "e82kni8l" was just emailed to us and it works. We discovered that it was found on THIS Korean Lost website. The video is of Mr. Beardy saying, "D.H.A.R.M.A." is an acronym for Department of Heuristics And Research on Material Applications." Still not sure of the details about how/where this code was found (please email us if you know)
Thanks to Shannon, Esther, Matt, Rob, Scoutpost, Lucamu, bman_numero_uno, Nat, Sean, & Jen for emailing us about these codes!
*Check out Matt the Pale's summary of all the found fragment codes at...Matt the Pale's HansoExposed Video Fragment Code List
Fragment Code "750NZF8X" was found in a text messaging service in the UK mentioned by The Other Girl in her August 3rd post. The text message gives you a link to a glyph that can be seen by clicking here. The video fragment is of Mr. Beardy saying, "The equation is the brainchild of the mathematician, Enzo Valenzetti."
Fragment Code "NZ59" was found in an Australian Yahoo video on this website. Click "Watch Ep 223's Secret Clue" (Many people have been having trouble getting this Yahoo video to play). The video fragment is of Mittelwerk saying, "So when you go in, you have to keep up with story."
Fragment Code "e82kni8l" was just emailed to us and it works. We discovered that it was found on THIS Korean Lost website. The video is of Mr. Beardy saying, "D.H.A.R.M.A." is an acronym for Department of Heuristics And Research on Material Applications." Still not sure of the details about how/where this code was found (please email us if you know)
Thanks to Shannon, Esther, Matt, Rob, Scoutpost, Lucamu, bman_numero_uno, Nat, Sean, & Jen for emailing us about these codes!
*Check out Matt the Pale's summary of all the found fragment codes at...Matt the Pale's HansoExposed Video Fragment Code List
136 Comments:
Code 26 has been published. Someone's found it. Anyone know where it is?
First?
dazzed, I think it's been found. According to hanso statistics, all 26 have been released and published.
I don't pay attention to the game for a day and people find codes in RL abroad.....
But no one has seen it yet? #26 that is.
Yes, hopefully it will be shared soon enough. I hope it's not another UK or Aussie code we can't get Stateside.
e82kni8l
explains what DHARMA stands for (right before "it also stands for the one true way")
nitesea, where did you find that?
Nice nitesea, where did you find it?
anonymous person posted it on ITE
still dont' know the actual source yet
I don't understand why someone will post the code, but not where they found it. Selfish people maybe? (referring to the ITE person, not you nitesea)
i hear ya, scoutpost... I'm hoping it will be forthcoming shortly...
Interesting clip tho. Glad you found it nitesea.
wish I knew where it came from...
one of us will find it eventually. Or speaker will post it. It was found so fast after it was released ... it can't be TOO hard to find, can it?
yeah, that's what I was thinking, ym... seems like it should be right in plain sight if it was snapped up that fast...
well, we're almost halfway there, Dazzedelf
I found the TVM clip very interesting. "So when you go in, you have to keep up with story." It reminds me of the whole quarantine story with the hatches and Kelvin.
Thanks guys for helping 'us' 'find' the codes. If I had to do this alone, good grief.
anyone want to share where they have looked already since the new glyph-finder isn't being forthcoming with the location of #26?
a lot of people are using http://www.se-nse.net/ixalon/codes.php to find out codes without knowing where they are from
I've looked on most of the major sites: RBs blogs, ITE, Channel 4 and Ninja's blog.
hm, so perhaps we have another catseye, and whoever posted to the forums just knew what it was not where it was from...
Ugh, no more catseye glyphs!
Hey TLEC crew, I emailed you guys the three codes and transcripts just after they were released, no thanks for me? :-( lol
Goodness Dazzedelf, you've been busy. Anyone check Sublymonal?
Well none of the sites on this tracker have been updated in nearly 24 hours, so we can rule those out I guess...
crazy nothing and then 4 in a row.... too bad the americans havent had a real life clue yet...
maybe a tptb went rogue and posted the code prematurely. unlikely, but it doesnt seem to be coming from anywhere else.
wv: splut
Well... the American's had Comic Con, so I guess we really did have a real life clue.
I think it also comes soon after m6xy398, maybe with a frag or two in between
so what kinds of obscure places have we found them in before? maybe that will help us think of where this one could be...
painki11er - I was there earlier, but I'm not familiar enough with what would normally be there to know if anything is new...
anybody been over to EW to check there?
well I gotta get some work done, but I'll check in from time to time... have faith, glpyh hunters!
Damn the IT department where I work. I've not had internet connection all day and so now there is suddenly a load more glyphs. Drat and double drat.
One day I'll actually be here from the off. Ah well.
Also looks like I'm going to have to actually start paying attention to what tOG has to say for herself from now on.
I guess the focus of this act really is the three go-betweens.
Anyway I guess that it will be dead for the rest of the night too now. Nevermind I'm planning on seeing a band anyway.
One more thing - "keep up with story"? I'm not sure that is what it is. It could be "keep up the story" or "keep up his story".
painki11er, the Chocolate is the new LG phone from verizon. Sharp looking piece of technology, but not receiveing the best of reviews. It is definitely not in game. The site may just be down for a bit, because I was there the other day without any problem.
This is my current order of clips:
http://www.hansoexposed.com/player/1053d976b083dd2deafcc439286ae589
Good work everybody getting those sequences readjusted. I may just work on mine later today.
In the meantime if it gets boring again, I've added a few new jokes at lostyourhumor.blogspot.com. I'd love to read your feedback and joke submissions! We don't have any based on the sequence we're working on yet.
Here's my sequence, it's really different from everyone else's
http://hansoexposed.com/player/cc63b2f28068ab3c6121c5ed055f4982
Ok everybody- getting ready to head out of town for the weekend. May or may not have internet connection. Keep up the good work!
Maven- if I don't get back on before you leave...have an ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL trip! Take lots of pictures to put on your blog.
Over and out.....
Back in action! Feeling better from too much fun at the Buffett concert! Glad to see we have a bunch of new clips. I think I need to seriously figure out an order for them.
painki11er: the site is verizonwireless.com/chocolate. I only looked at it briefly last night, so I can't be sure there's no IG links there... Fun to play around with if nothing else!
Thanks, scoutpost. Yeah, I'm leaving Saturday. Thank you...I'm sure we'll have a great time! Today and tomorrow on the computer...then cold turkey! LOL.
I talked with Team Lena last night and she's ready to take over the Timeline for me while I'm gone for 3 weeks. (Unfortunately, nothing has been added since July 22 at ComicCon, hopefully, she'll have lots to add soon!) She should be back with DSL shortly! Yea!
jussup ... welcome aboard. Hope you're able to follow everything, sometimes the boards pick up and we got 1000 comments per clue blog ...
As for the Mr. Beardy/Hanso connection ... been discussed as nauseum. There's basically two camps ... those who say it's him, and those who aren't sure yet. Can't remember if anyone has definitively said no, they don't think it's him.
Welcome, jessup! Yes that's what some have postulated, but we're not sure how to make that match up with what his actual age is supposed to be (Life Extension Project?). So there are arguments on both sides.
Bye, Maven, we'll miss you. Have a great trip. Thank Team Lena for us. I wonder what we'll be doing when you get back!?
Scoutpost, you too. See you next week.
Sawdust: Yeah, ange is working on an unanswered questions message board. That's what we seem to mainly be getting.
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Thanks, ange! What's PM?
Let's try this again, this is ridiculous...the blogger keeps screwing my post up!!
twinkle & anyone interested-I have the thread all set to go for unanswered questions. It will be in TLEC Message Board linked here:
http://www.drkdesign.com/cluesmb/
Under The Hatch section. I have asked a moderator to make it a sticky so that it will always be on top. I will add the questions that have already been there (another thread started by ZSGhost) and then we can all add to it too. If you want to post on the thread just go to the message board and make a username and password. Once you have those you can post or PM me with questions that you'd like added.
Twinkle-PM is private message through the message board (like an e-mail):)
Um, call me dumb, but what is the significance of The Black Rock that was revealed? What did I miss?
Beana
You are cordially invited to join the members of SHADE in the fourth phase of our E-mail Campaign, “Operation Conspiraspies Unite!”
http://www.shadeoftruth.org/phase_four.php
Thank you for your time and consideration.
I've been tossing around a few ideas in my head about the new TVM clip: "So when you go in, you have to keep up with story."
At first I had though maybe it has to do with the hatches, the quarantine, vaccines, and the fake sickness that Kelvin had Des believing in. But now I am wondering if the story doesn't have something to do with the mythos behind the Valenzetti Equation. Mittlewerk is showing the video telling about the Valenzetti Equation that some DHARMA recruits see. However, the folks watching the video know the true story (which we don't yet) and are being asked to keep up with the story that tells of the UN rejecting the equation, Valenzetti's unknown whereabouts, etc...
**The unanswered questions thread is all set too. Link Here:
Unanswered Questions Thread
PainKi11er - thanks for the reminder!! I need my brains to be fried!
Thanks, ange. I got my message board un and pw last night.
Interesting theory. I like the idea of the VE doing *nothing* and them putting all this work into hiding that. (Obviously for the island it does something but that was two years ago and maybe that's all it does.)
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The unanswered questions is great, ange!
Blogger was acting funny on me but I finally updated my profile with a new pic. It's the same kid.
Here's the latest video of the fragments that I've combined together: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQe7A2NyK3Y
Oh Belly!! ... I wasn't trying to criticize you guys! There were a few comment sections that ran over 900 comments, and that's not because any of the admins are slow to post lag alleviations, that's just because some of us talk so much :) I think our admins are awesome.
WV: chaos ... yeah, I typed that right. Boy, you ain't kiddin ...
kylelane, I get a similar feeling, but I think that, instead of the glyphs meaning something, when we get all of the clips aligned correctly, the string of letters and numbers in the codes will be a cyphertext that can be decoded.
Ange: Thanks so much for doing the "unanswered" questions list. Gosh, there's a lot to find answers for, isn't there? LOL
"You have to keep up with the story" might also refer to a cover story for anyone asking too many questions. It's like: "Let's get our story straight so no one questions what we're doing."
kylelane: Fozzy's my favorite! It sounds like we need you on the joke blog.
marcus... yeah, i think your math is right. What I wonder is where Ninja got the time from. DJ Dan doesn't say a specific time, right?
twinkle: Thanks for your joke blog. My dad was a comedy writer, but passed away 3 years ago. He would have come up with great ones! We need a place to take off a little steam.
Thanks for the bon voyage! Team Lena will do a great job for us. I hope a lot happens when I'm gone for all your sakes! Hope you're not all still collecting frags in 3 weeks. LOL
maven: Us too! I think next week's the end of it with DJ Dan's broadcast occurring around the same time we get the last glyphs. At least, I hope. I'm glad I could stir up fond memories of your dad. Mine passed away about 3 years ago too. I'm brand new to writing jokes though so I know they're not very good. Thanks for your support!
fan, it stands for Inside The Experience ... it's Speaker's site.
You know, I hate to moan, but I just got to say. It's typical that the C4 (the UK channel showing Lost) clue is one you had to spend money to find. I mean whatever network Lost is on in Australia just put the clue somewhere in public, no problems there someone will live near. What C4 did was make people send text messages, thereby bagging the greedy so and so's a nice fat wad of cash for their single segment of video. Not only that but of course giving C4 a whole load of mobile numbers they can then sell to advertising companies or just use to spam you themselves.
Just wanted to say that.
Anyway back to biz: Macus - Yeah I agree with you. I can't see DJDan doing it live at midnight PST. Although from my point of view, as the UK is in BST (GMT+1) at the moment it would be either 2am or 9am. On a sunday I'm probably more likely to be awake at 2am, but either way it's going to be tough. Not impossible at least. I guess finding a time that is good for all three countries would be near on impossible.
So the podcast is going to be next weekend? Do we have the number yet? I doubt they will give that out until right before the calls will be taken...
If it is the weekend of the 12th I will be away visiting my future in-laws...
So it would be early afternoon here on the East coast? Friday? That sucks, how do I explain to my boss I need to call I fake radio show?????
Hi everybody!
Here's a thought (or naive wishful thinking), but it seems to me that very soon the pace of the glyph-release will have to pick up as we will be filling in more and more of the gaps in the video and it won't be too hard to make some connections between words and phrases even if we don't have the exact clip. Of course, my money is on McBeardy's "I'm..." sequence being finished last.
FYSB - I think they might start to give us more from the end, like clip 40 to 70 and space them out more...then fill in the gaps quickly...
hey all, I just got caught up for the week. I will be going to Dallas for some work fun...my job is a party so it really is FUN!...and I will not get to play while i am gone. I had decided to just check once a week and then fill in the ones I missed, it works okay, but I miss the ramblings with you all!
I am writing to say Hi, and Bye for a while...I wish you all best of luck and PATIENCE because it seems needed in this stage of the game!
Take care and I hope there are LOTS of glyphs when i get back!!!
puzizic17- are you serious?
hm, anyone read korean?
thrasher: Congratulations on the future in-laws.
belly: Thanks! I think so too! Although she hardly stays still for a picture. And get a load of the shoes on her hands! She does that constantly. What's up with that!?
Stop deleting your comments, you make me look like I'm talking to noone! :p
No Glyph's but thejeepchannel on youtube has updated!!!
FOur New Jeep Compass Commericals?!? Could LYCBYG be updating soon??
English translation from BabelFish:
Mister which the whole world LOST pans enjoy together li in game LOST Experience challenge!
The passwd it will be able to connect in the www.HansoExposed.com: E82KNI8L
It is a passwd and the LOST it ties it opens to the public to the son first also the chance which one is special!
The LOST search the Golden Sticker of chocolate inside. The date and place open to the public at once! ! !
Nitesea, what are you translating?
I bet it was something in Korean that was deleted, right?. Something from...
puzizic17 said...
Code "e82kni8l"
So is that where that code originated? Has an explanation for where it was found been uncovered before?
His link was to a Korean site but I don't want to install the language pack. Anyone?
In Aus we just had part 1 of the finale last night (as in about 10 hrs ago for Eastern States). superdifey, there's two UK channels isn't there, one a week ahead of the other? I thought you were up to The Whole Truth
Get this, my fiancee wants to look at getting a...cough cough, Jeep Compass....for real no BS. She thinks they are cute!!!
Yeah, that was #26, but I thought we didn't have an explanation for where it came from?
marcus: and the US will be rerunning "The Whole Truth." I wonder if they've coordinated some big reveals for the end of next week.
thrasher: and you feel an irrestible urge to go along with it?
I checked them out with her online and they are nice and affordable, so why not. It will be her car, so what ever she wants. Plus it is better than a mini-van!!
I was just razzing you. :-) Check the flashlight for us ok? LOL
If we go to test drive one I will be looking every where in it for a glyph!! lol
I have noticed that we have "lost" a few of our regular contributers lately and I have asked myself the same question. Why am I still doing this? Well, I have to beleive that there is going to be some sort of pay off here. I have spoken to a few of you about this and Matt the Pale hit the nail on the head in a letter to TPTB about how this is not a true ARG, but more of a story that will unfold and we will get to "play" along. It is unfortunate to have miss certain people and I hope they come back soon. Think about how great of a community this is. It has truly grown bigger than anyone of us could have hoped. It has spawned so many great things, from the Research Team, to a cool chat room, to some true friendships. No matter how this ends, with a bang or a flutter I will truly remember the cool people and the friendships that this "game" has created. Thanks for the inspiration to write this Belly.
marcus, you are right, a week from now and Australia can no longer be spoiled! Still a long way to go for the UK though :(
Knowing that Javi basically wrote the ARG and no outside (as in ARG pros) helped I am not surprised at the way the game has gone. I'm trying to stay on the positive side, but have to agree that it would have been nice if this had been more true to the ARG way. Ah well, if has been fun, mostly cool people and gets the old brain matter ticking a bit
trasher76: I think the answer to why people are losing some interest in the ARG is simple: phase 3 is bloody boring... And worst of all, there's no "sense of accomplishment" with this type of clues. The only thing that really matters is who enters the spoon-fed code first.
Oh, and that HE website has a huge bottleneck: the login phase. They load every flv each time you logon! That's just silly.
Lavenda, that's interesting about Javi. I didn't realize that. Certainly explains the flow. Also could explain the relative lack of adaptability to the players' requests for more challenges...if he's not an ARG guy, he might not be as innovative in changing on the fly. And he may also be quite busy on the show etc.
Thrasher et al...I just don't think there's a lot for us to hash through in this part of the experience. Before, we were finding things out about organ harvesting and life extension and disappearing executives and mysterious islands. We had loads of things to ponder because we were trying to connect all these random and intriguing dots. Now we get a 2 second snippet that just doesn't lend itself to too much research or analysis. (though we managed to burn up a boatload of blog space on "I'm...")
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Belly - Dane Cook is a great and funny comedian...I have heard of him but I don't know him....I am a bigger fan of Jim Gaffigan...
Lost - You are correct! This is boring and there is no sense of accomplishment to be had anywhere. Before, even if you were not first to find a clue, you could retrace someone steps for yourself and get some satisfaction. What this tells me is that TPTB are not really listening to us. At least not in this phase of the game...the die has been cast I am affraid...
Thank god we should be getting a new podcast soon....right? David?
Yes, well said, thrasher. Totally agree. Before this glyph thing started we had plenty to think about and research. Now it's just a waiting game since no frag so far has given us anything earth shattering. We've only seen things either confirmed or things a lot of us already know and suspect. No big reveal will come until that last frag is placed in the sequence.
Although we're all complaining now, I still find this a wonderful "experience". Great discussions, meeting great people, great trivia, and the beginnings of great friendships. I sincerely hope this "family" stays together once this ARG is over. We'll always have plenty to talk about...we'll always have Season 3, etc. and how our theories from the ARG factor in. I hope this blog continues in that vain (hear me, David?)
I agree Maven, I think it would be cool to continue this blog, or a new to discuss the show and things we find and see on it...
I am not sure I would have th etime to create one, but I would be interested in doing so with some of you. That is if David does not see the need to continue on with this one...
To liven things up a bit I want to pass something by you guys.
I think I cracked the timestamp code on the print-out from the Pearl Station. I made an entry on the relevant Lostpedia site at http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Log_printout
under "Theories".
[i]The log printout shows the hours and minutes that have passed since an event in the 28th century BC. For example: 41602050 hours would represent 4749.09 years. We don't know what (island) time period the print-out covers but it can reasonably be assumed to be between 1985 (the incident) and late 2004 (log printed out). This means that 0 on the log would represent a date sometime between 2764 BC and 2745 BC. An important person in that time period was Fu Hsi, legendary ruler of China (traditional dates: 2852 BC-2738 BC). According to tradition Fu Hsi had the arrangement of the trigrams of the Yi Jing revealed to him supernaturally. The trigrams form part of the Bagua which is used as the symbol of the Dharma Initiative. Assuming that the number of hours passed since Fu Hsi's birth year 2852 BC were taken as the start of the log, the last previous printout was probably taken in 1997.[/i]
If my theory is correct "The Pearl" may have been manned until 1997.
I agree Maven. I don't regret being involved in the experience for one iota of a second (whatever an iota is). But the actual content itself just seems to go downhill. It hasn't helped that the story at ROT has fizzled, Mandrake seems to be acting without any kind of purpose at all and DJ Dan is apparently on holiday. It's all led to a very very empty act.
Still the community itself has shown again and again we can entertain ourselves even if TPTB can't!
I like the idea of contiuing things. We've got a good community here and besides we should be ready for the next ARG. :)
Oodles - Holy crap!!! That is awesome!!!! So the numbers coul din theory go back to 2745 BC...and this could have been the begining of the countdown....
Awesome find!! Tell us more!!!
My pleasure, thrasher76.
In fact, there is more (from Wikipedia on Fu Hsi):
In the beginning there was as yet no moral or social order. Men knew their mothers only, not their fathers. When hungry, they searched for food; when satisfied, they threw away the remnants. They devoured their food hide and hair, drank the blood, and clad themselves in skins and rushes. Then came Fu Xi and looked upward and contemplated the images in the heavens, and looked downward and contemplated the occurrences on earth. He united man and wife, regulated the five stages of change, and laid down the laws of humanity. He devised the eight trigrams, in order to gain mastery over the world.
sorry about not responding earlier, I was commuting... what I posted was a translation from text on a link that puzizic17 posted about clue #26. He said it was originally in a caption for the Korean tv station that runs Lost (at least I think so... he deleted his post almost immediately). I didn't have time to look into it in more detail before I left work. I'm looking at the site now, and it appears to be a Lost forum in Korean... need to get the character set installed, tho, cuz from home it's all gibberish. If anyone wants to look into in themselves, the site is
http://www.chcgv.com/series/lost/lostmania/maniaworld_list.asp?page=
Sorry guys, I think I'm on the right track but I made mistake in the calculation (these backward years are confusing). Back shortly.
Oodles - That is very interesting! It seems like it could fit, but some much of what we encounter seems like it could fit into the game.....but I think what you have founf is way more interesting than the current events of the game...
Does anybody know if we can expect a TLEC podcast tonight??
re: log print-out and Fu Hsi / Dharma logo (see above)
It's Fu Hsi's death year 2738 BC that falls within the range but 2738BC plus 4749 years would yield a date in the future (2011). So neither his birth year nor his death year could be the "start date" for the purposes of the log. My guess is it's the year the trigrams were "revealed to him supernaturally" (haven't yet found out) or perhaps some other significant event in his life (e.g. the year he became ruler of China).
In legend he seems to be ascribed with civilizing mankind which is interesting in the context of the prediction of the time when mankind is going to extinguish itself.
Another interesting reference is the five stages of change. Remember how Mandrake Wig always goes on about change? Also we now know that there are not 3 but 5 stages to the ARG!
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Continuing the community? Does that mean continuing the podcasts too? We're going to wear the poor administrators out! :-)
Good work, oodles. And the eight trigrams and the SPIDER protocol. Hmmm...
Well these BabelFish translations are driving me bonkers. They make absolutely no sense. I think their word for "bedspread" must be the same as "fragment" or something, or else there's a running joke about linens I'm not getting...
fickle fascination, you are absolutely right.I think that may have been done for the benefit of the viewer as we can all recognize 922044:16.
The difference between the two print-outs has been a source of puzzlement at
http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Log_printout
I'm not sure if I follow you, Marcus.
Did anyone (on the island) ever check what happened the day of the lockdown?
Locke never checked the log anyway because after seeing the video in the Pearl station he no longer thought pushing the button had any significance while Eko may not know about the Faux Henry indicent as he only moved into the Swan when Locke said he'd no longer push the button. The Swan inhabitants never seemed to tell the beach group much about what was going on in the hatch.
It was Desmond who grabbed the log and he only tried to find 9/22/04 once Locke told him the date of the crash.
Off, for the night....later gang!
thanks, kylelane... those machine translations were giving me a headache!
kylelane: I don't know which is cooler cute little twins or that your DH is bathing them! Mine (not twins) are being bathed by Daddy right now too.
***spoiler***
oodles: I think marcus might be saying that if the date of the crash and the date of Desmond's incident coincided then the island is running on the same time at the same rate as it's external world. A question I have is if Desmond's incident brought the plane, then what might Locke's bring.
marcus: Let's say the island runs on the same time as it's outer world. What if other times can be accessed in some way because of the electromagnetic effect? That could explain the weird moment when Hurley and Sayid got old music on the radio. Some science fiction posits that time *travel* isn't possible but other time *viewing* is.
Another idea is that the computer was using external time references instead of local island time references. Then the island time could be running at a different rate and the dates of the events could still match up.
Get you Twinkle,
I reckon island time = outside world time; I believe what Faux Henry may or may not have done is in the log; it's just that no one has looked yet.
Guess I should add:
***spoiler***
I too have wondered whether more planes are gonna fall out of the sky but it may only have been for the fact that Flight 815 swung around back to Fiji that it came close enough to the island to be brought down.
Your idea of external time references is interesting. However, if the island is, as I believe, between Fiji and Tahiti then it should by rights have been dark when the plane crashed (I guess it gets bright around 8am there?) The time (4:16) isn't really the problem - that roughly tallies with the flight time and path (the timezones in that part of the Pacific are very zig-zaggy); the fact that it was bright daylight is the problem (continuity error? better visual effects?)
GreenFalcon,
Desmond said he had been on the island for 3 years. Jack and Desmond met in 2001.
See http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Pre-crash_timeline
Signing off.
oodles: Late responding and then I'm off for the night. Someone mentioned the daylight problem before but I didn't get it. Thanks for explaining. So either the daylight when it should have been night thing was a goof or the island isn't where we think it is or their is something screwy with the time there.
Nice one Trevor, good (not a)glyph!
FOr all those frustrated with HE.com, check out the updated matt the pale frag list! He's set it up to download and arrange offline! Yay!
Hey everyone! Dropping in to see how its going! MISSING EVERYONE TERRIBLY!!!!!
WOW! Lots of new people here in TLEC! I get my DSL back hopefully in a few days!!! YAH!!!
Congrats on the DSL, Lena!! Great news, I know you have wanted it for a long time!
Yah thanks warmisland! I kinda faded away since losing it :(
Bet some of the newer players here dont even know me. Well that shall change! I got new friends to meet WOOHOO!! LOL
The frags are a real downer for me right now, the hansoexposed site just doesnt like STUPID DIAL UP anymore than I do LOL.
Anywho, I am filling in for maven on the timeline for research blog. So if anyone has ANYTHING (besides the frag updates) let me know!
Also, I plan to get somewhat involved again starting now, dont want to wait for the DSL....miss everyone too much!
I just about LOST it when I heard my man DJDan was gonna go live!!!!! HOLY TOLETO BATMAN!!! LOL
Morning all (and Marcus in particular)
******spoiler warning*****
First of all, Marcus credited me with the "food drop through some kind of portal/conduit" theory". Can't remember who came up with that but it wasn't me so I'll pass the credit back into byteworld.
Last night, The Final Countdown (US, 1980) aired here, a sci-fi story in which the carrier USS Nimitz passes through a time-warp and appears off Pearl Harbour just before the Japanese attack. Just had to watch it (not least because my beloved Martin Sheen stars in it :) and it sure made me contemplate the timewarp theories again.
But I think I'll stick with Ockham's Razor (the dictum that one should always accept as most-likely the simplest explanation that accounts for all the facts). My theory is that island time and real-world time are not out of phase; we left the losties on November 27, 2004. Desmond has been there for over 3 years, following his getting stranded on the island in 2001. The log printout from the Pearl shows all the entries since the last printout (at an unknown time in the past) including the September 22, 2004 entry. It also shows whether Faux Henry did or did not enter the numbers (I presume he did and lied about it, otherwise we would have had an earlier 'incident' during lockdown); but no one has looked at the log for that entry (Locke because he no longer thinks it is significant, Eko and Desmond because they don't know about what Faux Henry said to Locke about not pushing the button).
The plane was in the air for about 8 hours. If it left on time it crashed about 23.00 Sydney time. I would put the island between Fiji and Tahiti in the northern Cook Islands area which is at Sydney time +4 hours. So then the plane would have crashed at about 3 a.m local time. Leaving the "it should have been dark"-problem out of the equation, there are a number of things that could account for the one-hour difference to the print-out (4.16 a.m.):
- The plane's take-off was delayed by one hour.
- The island is further east.
- The computers run on external time: The timezones and dateline are pretty messy in that part of the world (see http://www.worldtimezone.com/time-oceania24.php) and have repeatedly been revised in the late 20th century. The island that connects with 'our' island via the Pala Ferry and possibly the underwater cable Sayid discovered could well be in a different timezone.
As to "it should have been dark"-problem. Perhaps the producers had not contemplated that the show's every scene and every word spoken would be analysed to bits two years on.
It has been theorized that the island is not in the South Pacific but off the East coast of Africa (where it would have been afternoon at the time of the crash) but I wouldn't think that an airline pilot and two hardy sailors wouldn't know which part of the world they are in. Also, the Banyan tree is a native southeast Asia and overall the vegetation on 'our' island is humid tropical, not dry tropical as it is in the likely contender, the Cape Verde Islands region, where only interior valleys support lush vegetation whereas coasts and mountains are rather bare.
Anyway, methinks that the ARG is two years into the future from the show.
cool benito! You move fast :) hint? :D
Good on you, Benito.
But weren't we supposed to share? ;)
I can't mail anything to gmail (server blocked from here), so here it is:
DJDan Merchandise site 90VDHOHU
"... WHY we have assembled the greates minds in the world and have given them unlimited funds and acess ..."
Goes after GMX18BCJ but there is still something missing between the two.
http://www.djdan.am/merchandise.html 90vdhohu
Benito, you are right, it also could be 'brightest'.
Yeah, it's "brightest"
If they release 3 more fragments today, that will be 15 fragments per week. At this pace, we're going to need at least three more weeks(!) in order to complete the video. In addition to that, this will make phases 4 and 5 last only one month...
Good morning! Looks like the hunt is on early today--there's another one released... any leads?
I checked LYCGY--looks like nothing's been updated there in about 2 weeks or so...
oodles: vis-a-vis your long post - I'm with you. Thanks for clarifying it for me.
Something in Korea and I miss it! Doh
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