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Clue #93 - Fragment Code "Nanite"









In the recent issue of People magazine there is an advertisement for Sprite's Sublymonal campaign. In the ad, there is a picture of a Sprite can, within it’s reflection is the word, "Nanite," which turned out to be our newest fragment code for hansoexposed.com. The video fragment is of Thomas Mittlewerk saying, "our operatives at the VIK Institute have verified this figure"

Speaker from insidetheexperience.com also took out a column in People magazine to call attention to the Hanso Foundation. You can see images of both the Sprite ad & Speaker's column at Thrasher76's Flikr page by clicking here.

*Check out Matt the Pale's summary of all the found fragment codes at...Matt the Pale's HansoExposed Video Fragment Code List

Thanks to BeachGrrl, Frogg3r, Marcus Allen Cooper, and Crossfade for being the first to e-mail us on this code.

104 Comments:

Blogger maven said...

First! At last!

8/05/2006 09:28:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Second! Did not cheat!

8/05/2006 09:28:00 AM  
Blogger SunBruise said...

Yay! new post!

8/05/2006 09:30:00 AM  
Blogger maven said...

Sorry, just had to do that! Morning all! (one more "session" before I leave for 3 weeks)

Gosh, this latest code is so aggravating. Great work by frogg3r! I had gotten my People, but immediately packed it to read on the plane! Imagine flying 30,000 feet and seeing that clue! LOL In reality, I would NEVER have noticed that! I agree with you fasten and ange: TPTB keep changing their rules! Maybe that's part of the game...but it's not fair to tell us one thing and begin to do something completely different. I'm almost glad I'm leaving the game for 3 weeks. The hunt for the rest of the "glyphs" is going to be so frustrating...I'm almost relieved to leave it to you guys. I feel sorry for all of you! This is not fun now!

(repost from previous thread)

8/05/2006 09:30:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Maven, have a fun, relaxing, exciting vacation! I envy you!!! And you are right the TPTB are changing the rules as they go, but I don't remember a set of rules being set-up, but like Matt the Pale has stated this is not a true ARG. I agree with him and think that they are telling a story and we are being a part of it.

8/05/2006 09:34:00 AM  
Blogger Jacob W. said...

omg i just sent an e-mail with the same image to matt the pale and i come here and bam! theres the image lol

8/05/2006 09:36:00 AM  
Blogger Ange said...

Maven-Have a wonderful trip. We'll miss you!

Thrasher- Right on HE.com under instructions it says, "The codes are in the glyphs". That to me would mean we are to look for glyphs, right?

So in the Nanite clip TWM says that "operatives" at the Vik Institute have verified this figure. Hmm, is that what they're calling autistic savants these days. Verified the figure doesn't seem much like an equation to me as it does a count of something. I have a sneaking suspicion that while the orientation film TWM is showing to the guys in white coats may describe the Valenzetti Equation, we may be in for a surprise as to how it is actually being used/presented to what looks like the new recruits. I wonder if the equation doesn't do what they thought it did, or they are trying to make it do something it was never intended for.

8/05/2006 09:39:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

What can I say Jacob I'm good! I just updated the post again with a link to my Flikr page where you can see both images in greater detail if you want.

8/05/2006 09:39:00 AM  
Blogger Scoutpost said...

Just checking in - trying to follow along a little bit from out of town. Maven- have a great trip!!!!

8/05/2006 09:44:00 AM  
Blogger Scoutpost said...

Thrasher- like the new avatar

8/05/2006 09:45:00 AM  
Blogger Tom Mein, Guitarist said...

hey mave - have a nice vacation! chat at you when u get back.

8/05/2006 09:46:00 AM  
Blogger Fenris said...

This is a (another) strange one. I'm wondering if when a new code comes up whether we should just start putting in words we know (ARG related).

You know, they should have done this kind of thing for Act 1. The slow slow progress is fine for an intro, it's a terrible choice for halfway.

8/05/2006 09:48:00 AM  
Blogger Tom Mein, Guitarist said...

do yall think this means something having to do wiht the black cloud monster?

8/05/2006 09:53:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Bare with me, my avitar will not get changed back unless the stupid page will load!!! I am getting frustrated!!!

At least I can sit back and relax listening to Buffett live from Hawaii...I got to tell you, even if you are not a big fan his show is one you should go to...last Tuesday when I saw him in Camden, NJ I had such a good time tailgating and seeing the show! I "highly" recommend it!

8/05/2006 09:53:00 AM  
Blogger maven said...

thanks scoutpost, ange, thrasher and whitefalcom -- I'll miss you guys, but looking forward to a great time!

Ange, I agree with you. Certain parameters had been set by TPTB re these codes. It started out fairly easily. We knew what to look for. Now all that is out the window. I don't envy you guys haveing to find the rest of these "glyphs" in most any place in most any form. Good luck to you all!

8/05/2006 09:59:00 AM  
Blogger The Penuels said...

Maven,
Congrats on being the first to post on this thread! It's appropriate that you go out in style.

I have a feeling about the codes/glyphs. I think TPTB are distributing the glyphs w/ the codes inside them to different "vendors" but they aren't giving detailed instructions about what they can and can't do. TPTB must be assuming that the "vendors" have at least read HE.com and know the "rules" about the glyphs being with the code.

They should have learned not to assume a long time ago. I hope they keep them in glyphs from now on.

8/05/2006 10:05:00 AM  
Blogger The Penuels said...

beachgrrl,
you deserve more than that measely shoutout...sorry that you've felt unrecognized. :(
We really do appreciate everyone who emails us clues. It makes our crazy lives that much easier!

8/05/2006 10:06:00 AM  
Blogger Tom Mein, Guitarist said...

who cares about the glyphs? they seem to be useless anyway except as placeholders for the codes .. maybe this with throw a little twist in the game, knowing the codes could be anywhere in any form

8/05/2006 10:08:00 AM  
Blogger tapdawg said...

we know for a fact nanite technology is not apart of lost... why would they do this... this aggrivates me.

8/05/2006 10:09:00 AM  
Blogger Ange said...

whitefalcon- I think that Nanites is just another way to poke fun at our theories and let us know that they are hearing what we are saying, like when they used DJ Dan to shut-down nanos too. TPTB have stated that the black cloud is not nanobots.

8/05/2006 10:09:00 AM  
Blogger The Penuels said...

beachgrrl,
No, you didn't sound sarcastic. I was just saying that you (and all the rest of the faithful) deserve more recognition and encouragement. People like you are what make this game great! I was just saying that I was sad that there is no better way to elevate your importance than a little "thanks" on the blog.

8/05/2006 10:10:00 AM  
Blogger Tom Mein, Guitarist said...

there must be something different about this code - the word must mean something - its the only code that is a word, the only one not on a glyph - it has got to have something to do with the smoke monster i think - event tho the dude at the con denied that the monster was nanobots (did he actually say that? have to go back and re-read transcripts)- perhaps he was being coy

8/05/2006 10:11:00 AM  
Blogger Tom Mein, Guitarist said...

they said nanobots but not nanites

8/05/2006 10:11:00 AM  
Blogger The Penuels said...

whitefalcon,
2 things about glyphs...1) they may end up translating into something in the end (who knows) and 2) "glyphs can be fun"

8/05/2006 10:12:00 AM  
Blogger Tom Mein, Guitarist said...

theyre glyph-a-riffic!

8/05/2006 10:13:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Admin - David - Thanks for tweaking the post, I am not able to things with images here at work other than upload them, and that was driving me crazy today. And thanks for catching my drop on Marcus also e-mailing us...my adrenaline gets going when I see new info. and no new post! I am also giving up for the day on changing my avitar back, it keeps telling "page cannot be loaded" - - WAH!!!!

8/05/2006 10:14:00 AM  
Blogger The Penuels said...

thrasher76, you do a GREAT JOB posting since you are usually the first one to catch new clues. I understand the adrenaline rush for sure...it's one of my favorite parts of the game, posting a new clue just as it is revealed. I also have a super-anal side to me that edits my own posts 5 or 6 times before I'm satisified with it. I'm glad you're cool with it, because as long as I'm alive, I'm going to be a post tweaker! :)

8/05/2006 10:17:00 AM  
Blogger The Penuels said...

jamaster,
I hate to say it but I think it will be a "big reveal" but it may end up being a reveal of something that we've already speculated on and talked into the ground. Hopefully not. I'm not sure how they'd work in a cliff hanger timeline wise...

8/05/2006 10:21:00 AM  
Blogger The Penuels said...

I feel like this hansoexposed.com phase has been kind of a let down b/c the orientation film and Mittlewerk stuff are just kind of re-stating/affirming what we've generally believed for awhile now. I hope we haven't gotten too far ahead of ourselves...I'm sure they have some surprises up their sleeve...

8/05/2006 10:23:00 AM  
Blogger The Penuels said...

robc,
having trouble saving your sequence? I've just given up for now (I'm still loading all the fragments). There are ways to save it but they are pretty tedious. Once you have your sequence in order, move your clips up to storage and then back to your sequence one by one. Save again...I think that's it.

I'm just following along like THIS. :)

8/05/2006 10:27:00 AM  
Blogger The Penuels said...

jamaster,

I have one idea but I don't think it's that good. Here it is...

We'll be let down by the first 6 episode mini-season b/c it will have very little to do with the ARG. Then, after the break, the long stretch will start with a jump ahead 2 years to present day on the island and will intersect with the ARG (this will also help them re-engage a post-pubescent Walt). I'm hoping Rachel ends up on the island and on the show :).

8/05/2006 10:30:00 AM  
Blogger Ange said...

Falcon-you got me curious when you said they discredited nanobots but not nanites, so I did a little looking. It seems, from what I found on a few sites, that the terms nanobots and nanites can be interchangeable. I agree though Tapdawg, that it is frustrating when they tell us that nanos are not part of the story then they use it in a clue. Falcon may be onto something in thinking that it means something more.

From wikipedia: The word "nanobot" (also "nanite" or "nanogene") is often used to indicate this fictional context and is an informal or even pejorative term to refer to the engineering concept of nanorobots. The word nanorobot is the correct technical term in the nonfictional context of serious engineering studies.

Oh and I think that maybe the clips, once all in order, are going to surprise us as to the true Valenzetti Equation (I posted it up a little further). I have a feeling it does not do what we think it does, or has been changed from it's original purpose. I really hope that there are surprises in store for us and not a let down.

8/05/2006 10:32:00 AM  
Blogger The Penuels said...

robc, did you see the link in my last post? Also, Matt the Pale is doing an AWESOME job at helping everyone. Check it out!

8/05/2006 10:32:00 AM  
Blogger The Penuels said...

nanites do not necessarily equal nanobots. I think that's why TPTB keep saying that it's not "nanobots". It's semantics. I mean, what else could the black clouds be? If they're wanting to keep this stuff relatively anchored in real-world possibilities, it seems like it has to be some form of nanotechnology. I digress, this discussion has little to do with the plot of TLE since the only mention of nanotechnology was in one episode of a DJDan podcast.

8/05/2006 10:37:00 AM  
Blogger The Penuels said...

jamaster,
Yeah, I've thought that too. Getting involved in TLE has made me feel like the main characters are just really dramatic extras in a bigger plot. Funny...

8/05/2006 10:39:00 AM  
Blogger The Penuels said...

robc,
I've wondered how Matt the Pale got his name as well. He sometimes lurks here. Matt the Pale, if you read this...I think it's time we see a picture to prove how pale you really are.

Are you THIS PALE?

8/05/2006 10:41:00 AM  
Blogger The Penuels said...

jamaster,
nanotechnology does make perfect sense in the "pushing the limits of possibilities" world of Lost, doesn't it? I put it in the same category as all the bologna about electromagnetism creating an invisibility cloak/radioactivity shield over the island. It's plausible but not nearly possible in the world we live in (yet).

8/05/2006 10:45:00 AM  
Blogger The Penuels said...

All,
Enjoyed the morning chat...have to run for now. I plan on spending a lot more time in the comments next week. Hope to see you there! Bye!

8/05/2006 10:47:00 AM  
Blogger Ange said...

jamaster- I agree with you about how the ARG will tie in. According to HE.com there are about 20,000 regisered...so taking off for folks that have entered more than one e-mail address we can assume there are roughly that many playing. Each week Lost rates millions of viewers, NOT 20,000...it would not be fair to the millions who watch and do not play to have the ARG reveal plot for the show, or have must know information to follow the story.

Also, I'm not sure about the signifigance of the nanites thing...TPTB already said that the black cloud is not nanos.

8/05/2006 10:53:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

I think that Matt is going for this type of Trend to catch on! I already sent it to him and he got a kick out of it...

Thanks for the props David...I try my best and I do not ever mind a post being tweaked I do that myself...

8/05/2006 10:58:00 AM  
Blogger Ange said...

marcus said- "I thought TPTB were adamant that the cloud (some call it part of the 3-headed cereberus) wasn't nanites..."

They did say that:)! That's why I think we're barking up the wrong tree, and that TPTB are just giving us a nod that they hear out theories. Sort of like they did with Gary Troup being an anagram for Purgatory when they have said the Losties are not in purgatory.

8/05/2006 11:05:00 AM  
Blogger Twinkle said...

Wow! Great theorizing again!

Here's my repost from the last thread:

Are TPTB going to back off on their no nanobots thing or was this a shout out? There's other types of nanotechnology besides nano-bots (tiny metal robots). Or are they giving us another mixed signal to keep us guessing?

8/05/2006 11:31:00 AM  
Blogger Twinkle said...

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8/05/2006 11:34:00 AM  
Blogger Twinkle said...

So I'm right with you all too. So I'm right there with you guys on this nano-bot, nanite thing. Yay! This is my favorite LOST topic to theorize about.

Nanites can be biological. From the science reading I've done most nanotech is moving towards biological creation right now. Some of us have theorized that the vaccine might be nanotech.

marcus: I too think they've been cured by the use of nanotech. If nano-tech is present on the island, I think a big question is "Is it sentient?"

Admins That Be: If I find more cool articles in current science magazines where is the best place to put the references? Is the proper place somewhere on the research blog or is here ok? Do ya'll even want to see them?

8/05/2006 11:39:00 AM  
Blogger Twinkle said...

(Sorry for the double sentence last time.)

marcus: Also, great question - Why were the DHARMA stations abandoned? I wonder if the timing co-incided with Alvar going AWOL?

8/05/2006 11:45:00 AM  
Blogger FYSB said...

Good question about the supposed abandonment of the DHARMA initiative, Marcus. The psychology of both LOST and the ARG are as interesting to me as the science. A couple of thoughts:
1. Experiment conducted and completed successfully. They found out what they needed to know to do X.
2. Experiment failed. Something unexpected and negative happened and they were forced to abandon the island. I lean toward this one, as Rouseau's reference to the sickness and the utterly bizarre of the Others.
3. DHARMA not abandoned. It's functioning exactly like it's supposed to, but now it's furthering the ends of Mittlewerk et al.

An ancillary question to Marcus'...the video fragments so far hint at a connection between the first DHARMA and something that Mittlewerk is working toward. What could have been learned that he's using now?

8/05/2006 11:46:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Twinkle - I would recomend the research blog for that kind of thing then promote it here...

8/05/2006 11:52:00 AM  
Blogger Fenris said...

linklane, I'm not quite so sure about that. The blastdoor map seems to reference a Cerberus security system and the areas it talks about it (like being heavily present near the Black Rock) does seem to suggest that is the "monster". However just because it's a security system doesn't mean it is only capable of violence. Perhaps it can do both. I'm not sure about the non-button-pushing thing causing it to be aggressive either because if it did save Jack it would have done that before it killed the pilot, so the button was pushed late, then it was helpful and then only later it was violent towards someone and killed them.

But I definetly think there is some kind of selectiveness going on with the "monster".

8/05/2006 11:54:00 AM  
Blogger maven said...

Hey, guys. Been reading all the great talk re nanites, tying the ARG in with LOST, DHARMA hatches, etc. Just wanted to "poke" my nose in one more time before I go off-line before my trip. I really am not up to getting into any deep discussion right now, just want to refer you guys to The Lost Grand Theory Blog in which jamaster and I put forth some possible ideas as to what happened on the island in the 1980s to about 2001.

Keep finding those glyphs (or whatever they are now)and have that video done for me when I get back. LOL
Thanks to Shellma for offering to email me updates (if I can get to a computer). Will miss you all. Till later, Maven

8/05/2006 12:00:00 PM  
Blogger Fenris said...

As far as nanites go, I'm still of the belief that their are nanites present in the vaccines on the island. I still kinda think the nanites may be there partially to aid repairs and partially to provide a mental connection between people, probably developed as part of the calculating processes for the Valencetti Equation but potentially put to other uses too. Maybe even as a kind of mind control. If Charlies was jacking himself up on it, it would explain his change of character if he was indeed being manipulated, it would also make Micheal less responsible for his actions if he was being manipulated by a mental connection via nanite technology.

8/05/2006 12:02:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

well, do nanites have healing powers?

8/05/2006 12:03:00 PM  
Blogger Fenris said...

On Hatches, I'm wondering if the stations are as cut off as they first appear. The "Door" hatch is an interesting one. Combine that with the blocked passageways in other stations and perhaps there are actually passageways inside but they are disguised as rock and only open for people with some kind of singallying device. Or possibly they only open from the other side.

I also had a bit of a crazy theory. What if the Island is entirely artificial, inside an entirely artificial sea of limited size and the whole thing is contained within some kind of giant bunker thing with artificial sunlight and weather (kinda like the Truman Show). The enterance points for it are actually within the hatches and are the rocked off parts. That is perhaps why Quarantined is on the inside of the hatch.

As I said, that one is a bit of a crazy puzzle. But still, I am absoloutly certain there is more to these underground passages and especially to "The door".

8/05/2006 12:11:00 PM  
Blogger Fenris said...

Well I don't know about real life science on nanites, but certainly in movies healing is probably nanites primary function.

Of course I am basing that statement on such things, so stooped in fact as "Jason X" and "Red Dwarf" (the series). :o)

8/05/2006 12:13:00 PM  
Blogger GhettoGumby said...

Why cant the stupid hansoexposed website ever remember my saved sequence....it seems like every time I go in there it throws random clips back into storage.

grrrr

8/05/2006 12:32:00 PM  
Blogger Twinkle said...

marcus: Sorry to have missed you. Maybe you can catch this later. The Black Smoke and other goings on make me wonder if something non-human is sentient and acting on the island, nanites come aware, as it were. But it could be artificial intelligence programming too.

In the real world nanites are not sentient and there are loads of articles about nanotech in places like sciam.com. newscientist.com, and discover.com. I found a New Scientist article from June about nano nueral nets. I'm not sure how the research blog works and I don't know enough about the subject but maybe someone could start a nanotechnology thread. TPTB said that the smoke monster was not *nanobots*, a la The Prey, but that doesn't mean a different form of the technology isn't at use on the island.

Thanks! Ducking out again...

8/05/2006 12:39:00 PM  
Blogger Fenris said...

ghetto - I haven't tried this yet, but it's been suggested that the way to get the pieces to save is to move them back to the storage area and then back to the view order one at a time. I suspect it fails to save them sometimes when you move the segments within the view order. As I said, I haven't tried it yet. I may do it in a bit though.

Gonna finish watching the Wild Bunch first.

8/05/2006 12:48:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Noblelawyer around or any other lawyers in the house today?

Q: Is there a law the prohibits a gift card/certificate from having an expiration date?

8/05/2006 12:58:00 PM  
Blogger Twinkle said...

thrasher76: Half hour and no answer, huh? I'm not a lawyer but last I heard they could make your gift cards expire. Check out this article at Consumer Reports

8/05/2006 01:45:00 PM  
Blogger MissMegs said...

i think it depends on what state you're in. Theres one in california.

8/05/2006 01:46:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

HEY EVERYONE!!! I see names I know!! YAH!!!

MAVEN....I had a feeling you would show up today LOL Hope your trip is the best!

I MISS EVERYONE!! At least I am not really missin out on clues, except the frags, but that can wait for the DSL! LOL

8/05/2006 02:10:00 PM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Lena!!! YAY!!! Glad to see you back in action! How is everything and everyone doing?

And no you are not missing a whole bunch these days!

Thanks for the info. Twinkle!

8/05/2006 02:17:00 PM  
Blogger Twinkle said...

You're welcome! I can't keep straight where everybody is from but I hope you're in California like MissMegs.

8/05/2006 02:26:00 PM  
Blogger Twinkle said...

robc: Interesting theory. We do need a non-nano explanation for the black smoke because they've been so adamant about it not being nanobots. They don't want their secrets explained that easily. :-P

8/05/2006 02:28:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

hey there thrasher! meet me on AIM when you have time OK? I cant promise that I wont get booted off, but would like to chat with ya!

8/05/2006 02:32:00 PM  
Blogger Twinkle said...

corbob: That seems to be the question of the day. And does this mean the the glyph pictures are meaningless?

8/05/2006 03:38:00 PM  
Blogger The Alternative One said...

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8/05/2006 04:06:00 PM  
Blogger The Alternative One said...

Corbob and Twinkle

There are at least two code fragments without corresponding glyph images: IG3X from the Offical Lost Podcast and NANITE from the subLYMONal ad. Just because all the glyphs are not represented does not mean they do not have some ulterior meaning. Time will tell...

The Alternative One

8/05/2006 04:08:00 PM  
Blogger oodles said...

robc,
re Adam & Eve: someone made the same suggestion at Lostpedia
http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Adam_and_Eve
The pros and cons are discussed there too.
I think it is a distinct possibility, especially since they carried the black and white stones.

8/05/2006 04:33:00 PM  
Blogger oodles said...

Follow-up on possible explanation for time format in Pearl Station log printout - link with Fu Hsi / Bagua / Trigrams:

Just came across an interesting paper (found through Google Scholar) by a Korean physicist "I-CHING PHILOSOPHY AND PHYSICS" (a talk presented at the XXI International Workshop on the Fundamental Problems of High Energy Physics and Field Theory)
http://dbserv.ihep.su/~pubs/tconf98/ps/kim.pdf
Lots of interesting stuff on trigrams, hexagrams, I-Ching but the final paragraphs are particularly tasty [straight quote - never mind the grammar]:
According to the I-Ching [4,5], there a turning point changing Hsien-t'ien (World of Thought/
A priori World) to Hou-t'ien (World of the Senses/A posteriori World), and they say that we
are now just at Hou-t'ien. It is told that the turning point was on 1948 year, and thus, we have
passed that point half century ago.
I am sure for the 21 century and a new millennium that all the human beings hope and wish
to enjoy happily their own life in an Utopia. But, science and technology has been advanced
greatly ,and then established the so-called high-tech societies, even so as the time goes on, the
societies become complicated more and more. Therefore, the human species are loosing our own
humanity and the Utopia which we really hope to establish goes far away. Why ? Because we
lost the balance and harmony in our lives. Now, we should stand on the balance with a new
readiness and a new perception to recover this unbalanced socity. How ?
Concluding my talk I propose for the next millennium a simple prescription that the Western
science and the Eastern philosophy should be harmonized and synchronized by comparing and
matching with their independently obtained consequences through the understanding each other.


Sounds familiar?

8/05/2006 05:27:00 PM  
Blogger thinbluemime said...

Concerning "damon and carlton already denied that the cloud are nanobots/nanites."

Cuse & or Lindelof have said that the Lost story is not science fiction, but have reversed that position as of late. They also said the numbers would probably never be revealed, and have reversed that as of late.

"There could not possibly be aliens because, as everyone knows, this is not a science fiction show" - Damon Lindelof

What's a Poor Boy to Believe????
http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=52552

8/05/2006 05:46:00 PM  
Blogger thinbluemime said...

oodles said...


"It is told that the turning point was on 1948 year, and thus, we have
passed that point half century ago."

Hmmmmm...1948...first link below is an introduction to cracking the "numbers" code, part 1 of 6 parts
The 2nd link is the summary....revealing the date with out the 6 part details
http://users.newblog.com/thinbluemime/?post_id=1034
http://users.newblog.com/thinbluemime/?post_id=1043

(the six parts were meant to be read starting at ONE and proceeding backwards thru the blog to number SIX, note the Blog entry Date...January, 2006)

MARCH 4, 1948

8/05/2006 06:03:00 PM  
Blogger RyaNDrumZ said...

Wow, a lot has happened. Been gone for a week and still in NY. I fly out tomorrow. Can't wait to put these glyphs in. Haven't read the comments, but this is the first time I've been able to get on. High everybody, and see ya later

8/05/2006 06:17:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

Hey everyone!!!!

Video research blog updated!!

click here to go!

Remember: if you have been there before, you MIGHT need to hit refresh!

Thanks,
Teamlena

8/05/2006 07:06:00 PM  
Blogger High Power Rocketry said...

Nanite!

That is from the computer game System Shock 2!

8/05/2006 09:57:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

Well, did some research again....

and OMG! I can safely say where BOTH the orientation video AND the hoffitt film BOTH got their footage from without any doubt at all.

Question, does anyone think that could tie them together as being from same person?

REMEMBER, JWH1972 on flickr posted pics from orientation film SAME DAY THE VIDEO CAME OUT TO US...June 19th. If this JWH isnt an insider of some type then how would he have found this source so fast ON THE DAY OF VIDEO RELEASE????????

All I can say is, this is getting GOOD.

8/05/2006 10:35:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

research is just updated...

click here and hit refresh, its worth it!

8/05/2006 10:57:00 PM  
Blogger Ashley F said...

anyone seen the video on speaker's site now. can't wait! (although, it wa a bit creepy at 12:15 AM, lol)

8/05/2006 11:21:00 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

hey hunter...not sure if you are still on but I saw that too! I was certain there had to be something on that because it seemed so familiar even though I knew it was new! Couldn't see anything though and I didn't get to record it so I can not view again...but I am with you on it has to mean something!

ALWAYS SEARCHING NOW!!!! ALWAYS!

8/06/2006 04:33:00 AM  
Blogger oodles said...

@thinbluemine
Interesting bit of research and nice tie in with the I-Ching predicted turning point in 1948. The only problem I have with reversing and decoding the numbers is that they are more often than not shown as individual one or two digit numbers (as on abc.com).
My current pet theory, after reading all that I-Ching info on wikipedia is that the numbers represent hexagrams (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_ching) and that the sequence of numbers/hexagrams perhaps predicts the same event that the Valenzetti Equation predicts.
Perhaps the deGroots were amongst the first Western scientists who tried to merge Western science with Eastern philosophy (... the 'dawning of the age of Aquarius' in the late 1960s...) and consulted the I-Ching as an oracle to see where the world is headed, finding out that the predictions they derived matched Valenzetti's prediction upon which they founded the Dharma Initiative with a view to accelerating individual, social, cultural, scientific and technological development in order to prevent mankind from extinguishing itself.
see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_aquarius#The_Age_of_Aquarius_.28Aquarius-Leo.29)

@teamlena
Great bit of digging. Question is: As players/viewers are we supposed to have found the old films? Are we supposed to accept the orientation videos as 'real' for the purposes of LOST and TLE or are we supposed to regard them as half-forged, further undermining the reputation of THF and Dharma?

8/06/2006 07:57:00 AM  
Blogger winged_eel said...

Umm..Shellma, thanks for your letting me use your excellent vocab skills. I got kicked out of the room before I could say thanks..so..

Thanks!

8/06/2006 08:17:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Lena - If you get on and read this, check your video research blog I left you a comment. I am full on in on this now. I will do what can to assist you depending on what it is and where I am at. I am litited at work but limitless from home. Super creepy, super interesting...I am thinking more and more that fact is going to be stranger than fiction...

8/06/2006 09:04:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Oh, and thanks to all of oyu that have also checked out some of my other photo's on flickr, it was not my intention, and boy oh boy you guys have viewed the sprite add and speaker column over 1000 times each...

Just checking in won't be back on until tomorrow....

Peace & Namaste

wv: hoebgz - hoe bags?

8/06/2006 09:08:00 AM  
Blogger bigdog said...

marcus - Would gladly sign the TAMKARB petition.

thrasher - Love the early avatar of the evil monkey in the closet

lena - nice information on the research blog.

with that my catch up reading is complete

8/06/2006 11:50:00 AM  
Blogger thinbluemime said...

oodles said...

"@thinbluemine
Interesting bit of research and nice tie in with the I-Ching predicted turning point in 1948."

I think the "numbers" have several meanings, with March 4, 1948, being just one of them, albeit very significant. Stumbling upon the date via reversing the "numbers" and plugging then into the Julian Day (Calender) assisted me into then doing searches for "links to that date, and the Lost story line". The linked stories, or real world events, are too close to the Lost story line to be coincidence...Sawyer with Ellory, Autaud with the Theater of Cruelty (One Shoe like in the Jack in the Jungle opening of the Pilot)....and the Aussie woman with the missing baby aka Claire.....I am still looking for real world clues and connections. If nothing else, LOST has caused me to raise my horizons reguarding my reading material, LOL..I love this show!!!!

8/06/2006 12:35:00 PM  
Blogger DJ Lena said...

Hey marcus, sorry about dissappearing last night, got booted.

HEY KINETIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LONG TIME NO SEE!!!!!!!!! Where are you these days??

8/06/2006 01:59:00 PM  
Blogger Twinkle said...

Some people haven't seen the episode with Hurley's flashbacks yet. Is it Australia then if you all from UK referenced it? Are you all done with season 2 then? Or is it the other way around?

8/06/2006 03:29:00 PM  
Blogger Twinkle said...

lena:
I'm really confused by the stuff you've uncovered. I haven't read everything yet on hoffitsfilms. Our choices are either it's in game or not in game right? But if it's not in game the guy doing it has access to the same rough footage that TPTB made the orientation video from?

8/06/2006 03:31:00 PM  
Blogger RyaNDrumZ said...

What's up everybody. Back in CA after a 10 day trip of the East Coast. Just downloaded the 12 clips I missed and put them in order(THANKS TO MATT THE PALE) I like how he's got them down...

Sucks that this is all we have, but glad to be back in the game again. We'll see what happens tomorrow...

8/06/2006 05:38:00 PM  
Blogger Capcom said...

washu,

Very interesting angle about the nanotechnology, and the healing of Rose, et.al. I wish that I could have had that to take for my cancer instead of chemo and rads, I'd probably be in a lot better shape physically by now!

Also liked the info on the real DeGroot fellow as well.

Ciao

8/06/2006 05:52:00 PM  
Blogger Capcom said...

BTW,

I want a Mr. Beardy bobble-head!!!!!!! Please, someone make them!

:-)

8/06/2006 05:58:00 PM  
Blogger oodles said...

BTW
http://oceanicflight815.com/
is back online

8/06/2006 06:06:00 PM  
Blogger Capcom said...

Marcus,

I have been put off by TAMKARB's Valley Girl act since day-one. Do you think that TPTB made a choice to use an actor who would appeal to the Gen-X/Gen-Whatever demographic, instead of utilizing someone more Bond-like or mature like the 60s-type spy girls such as Diana Rigg, or even the great Sgt."Pepper" Anderson, Angie Dickenson? A woman like that would have been much more believable and interesting, even to me....a woman. TAMKARB sometimes doesn't even seem old enough to drive, let alone smart enough to zip all over the world like a jet-setter!

Just my $.02

8/06/2006 06:19:00 PM  
Blogger thinbluemime said...

Has time slowed down or are the clues just coming less frequently....I feel a magnetic anomaly coming on...... (wink)

8/06/2006 06:46:00 PM  
Blogger FYSB said...

I'm with Monday Lad. Goofy scripts and low budget aside, she did a fine job with what she had to work with. I had a lot of fun finding and watching the videos and I like the idea of a young woman standing up against the odds. Honestly, I miss the Rachel videos...at least then we were sort of interacting with the game and had someone to identify with. Now we're a bit rudderless until the rest of the fragments are handed to us over the coming days.

Am I the only one hoping Joop makes a cameo in a fragment?

8/06/2006 07:23:00 PM  
Blogger Julian Delphiki said...

Hey, guys, there's this "game" thing being made on myspace right now. It's just starting, but it's something to do while waitng for all these glyphs/clues.

Just add this profile and start looking around. There's still some stuff being set up, but it's almost ready and should start by tomorrow.

http://tinyurl.com/hgqcm

It's definately not huge or anything, just a fun little thing. The email is "srsizzy@hotmail.com". Myspace is stupid and it won't make the profile not private and not require an email address.

TLE rocks, but this glyph thing is getting boring.

8/06/2006 07:37:00 PM  
Blogger FYSB said...

Or perhaps ..... beardy pulls off the mask mittlewerk is wearing, dastardly ponytail and all, revealing joop as the real evil mastermind, who exclaims bitterly..."and my plan would have worked if it hadn't been for those meddling kids!"

This concludes this week's episode of Scooby Do theater.

8/06/2006 07:47:00 PM  
Blogger FYSB said...

No need to apologize Marcus (but your consideration is appreciated). Everyone's opinion has value here and we have a lot of fun hashing things out. I am a huge movie buff and LOVE discussing film and writing (hence the All About Eve nod in my nom de blog). My main reason for posting what I did is that when we start analyzing the actors, we pull ourselves out of the experience. And I'd prefer to maintain the illusion, such that it is.

8/06/2006 08:40:00 PM  
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8/06/2006 09:01:00 PM  
Blogger FYSB said...

Hey Marcus...just reread my post. I was going for polite and respectful, but I'm afraid it could be read as condescending.

As a penance, I'm forcing myself to watch House of Wax, though I have to admit, I felt a bit of schadenfreude when Paris Hilton got whacked. If that makes me a bad person, so be it.

8/06/2006 09:28:00 PM  
Blogger oodles said...

Morning all,
has anyone figured out what's with the login code at http://oceanicflight815.com/ (bottom - barcode link)?

8/07/2006 04:25:00 AM  
Blogger thinbluemime said...

From Wikipedia: nanite
The word "nanobot" (also "nanite" or "nanogene") is often used to indicate this fictional context and is an informal or even pejorative term to refer to the engineering concept of nanorobots
Nanorobotics is the technology of creating machines or robots at or close to the scale of a nanometre
Some hold the view that nanorobots capable of replication outside of a restricted factory environment do not form a necessary part of a productive nanotechnology

Rossum's Universal Robots, note the date of the blog entry - Again, the "numbers" reversed and plugged into Julian Day Calender, to acquire March 4, 1948 <-Better take another look at that date.

COULD the NUMBERS be a part of the predictive ability of the Valenzetti Equation?

http://users.newblog.com/thinbluemime/?post_id=1036

8/07/2006 07:36:00 AM  
Blogger thinbluemime said...

SHADE is an anagram for HADES..... coincidence??? (as is HEADS)

8/07/2006 07:39:00 AM  
Blogger High Power Rocketry said...

System shock 2? Anyone?

8/07/2006 05:28:00 PM  
Blogger SunBruise said...

Just got here, to much to read but did anyone find Frag. 29?

8/07/2006 07:12:00 PM  

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