Clue #129 - Fragment Codes "FLHO6CUM181", "354G8", & "2NG39Z"
Fragment Code "FLHO6CUM181" was found late Tuesday night while many of us were enjoying Jimmy Kimmel. You'll find a new video on Speaker's YouTube account. Watch all the way to end of the video for the two riddles that will lead you HERE (to ctrl F "tigger"and follow the link provided) and then to HERE. (to click "TLEC podcast"). Once you have those two pieces, you know where to look for the other two! Ninja has new post with one piece here and the clue in his post about "rocks" leads you to the last one here (click namaste). The video fragment is of Mittlewerk saying, "The optimal mortality rate is 30%".
Fragment Code "354G8" was spotted on Jimmy Kimmel's coffee mug. The video fragment is of Mittlewerk saying, "When the deaths begin, you must comfort everyone with compassion and empathy."
Fragment Code "2NG39Z" was found in the Manchester glyph hunt documented on Ixalon's blog. The video fragment is of Mittelwerk saying "This inscrutable equation keeps bringing us back into the numbers."
Stay up to date with your hansoexposed.com fragment codes by visiting Matt the Pale's Fragment Code List.
Thanks to Alex, ShoxTP, Tresbien, Dennis, Chris, Justin, Nighcrawler, Sleeper Unknown, Aidan, Sleeper, and Diggity Dirge for helping us with these clues!
Fragment Code "354G8" was spotted on Jimmy Kimmel's coffee mug. The video fragment is of Mittlewerk saying, "When the deaths begin, you must comfort everyone with compassion and empathy."
Fragment Code "2NG39Z" was found in the Manchester glyph hunt documented on Ixalon's blog. The video fragment is of Mittelwerk saying "This inscrutable equation keeps bringing us back into the numbers."
Stay up to date with your hansoexposed.com fragment codes by visiting Matt the Pale's Fragment Code List.
Thanks to Alex, ShoxTP, Tresbien, Dennis, Chris, Justin, Nighcrawler, Sleeper Unknown, Aidan, Sleeper, and Diggity Dirge for helping us with these clues!
185 Comments:
top 5!!!
Wow...fast work on the Speaker/Ninja glyph!! Who figured it out?
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Hey, ryandrumz: You're always in the right place at the right time! LOL
Can't wait until all this glyph stuff if finally over...I can see the light at the end of this long, boring tunnel!
Are they going to make us watch Kimmel all week?
No, no! Don't make me watch Jimmy Kimmel all week! Noooooooo!
;)
Maven, No. They are going to make all the east-coasters watch it all week, so they can find it and let us (west-coasters)know as soon as they get it...LOL.
Goodnight all, and this time I'm serious.
It was fun but I probably won't do it again. Goodnight!
I agree with the 33456B, I am off to bed so I can wake up early to get to the city for the event... see anyone who is going there.
guess I'll go thru the pain of watching Kimmel since it starts in 5 mins. See every1 tomorrow.
For those of you that are lucky enough to live in a city where an apollo give-a-way is going on, have fun tomorrow!
emma, you think Ninja will get an email to watch Celebrity Survivor? A glyph tattooed on the butt of The Pleasure Machine??? :))
jpike, no I don't have any idea... I finally sat down and sorted out my Mittelwerk frags today but I am out of the zone now!
k....so the Kimmel frag got activated as expected. West Coast viewing just ended.
Hey all. Just thought I'd pop in and say good morning to you all.
I may not be around so much over the next few days (mostly due to being back at work), but will try to keep up.
Looks I missed the fun yesterday. Had to sleep and stuff. Ah well.
Btw, check out the audio clip on my blog profile. :)
and don't forget to send me your money shots (LOL).
Diss gave me a better url subdomain for that site but it's not up yet so it's still at the old location
I haven't even watched the last 3 clips yet (and wont do until I get back from work) so can't really comment on things just now.
someone got it!!!
354g8, but i wasn't the first to get it.
Eh? 354G8 has given me the OUDW clip again...
yeah same here
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LOL. Just logged in from work (no one else is here. typical, that won't last though). Seems TPTB are jealous of my comedy act and are trying to do their own again. :)
Anyone remember the Monty Python De Ja Vois sketch?
Man,
Wow lots going on whilst I slept! Well this certainly seems to verify the theory that TVM is planning on stopping the population from reaching the point in which the valenzetti equation comes into play.
So it seems the plan is to wipe out 30% of the population. Clearly vacinating 4.2 billion people is not viable and neither is targetting 1.8 billion specifically.
So either he has a virus that has a 30% mortality rate, although this might still destroy civilisation if say 70 or 80% actually get sick. Or he has a virus that only affects 30% of the population, is there a trait or genetic marker that 30% of the population have. The obvious one is O+ blood.
The virus is then used for those people that have the gentic marker/trait or whatever but you need to save. Hanso employers, Nuclear technicians, the owner of your favorite deli, you mother (does TVM have one of those? )
I wonder if the sickness is a prototype of the virus tested on the Island. The 'good' ones represent the 70% naturally imune to the virus. Those that are not imune have to take the vaccine. But why are our losties not ill - well 70% should be OK anyway but remember the Dharma food drop. It was full of Apollo bars - could these be vaccine full Apollo bars. And who could resist a lovely Apollo bar. One bite and your virus immune!
it is also interesting that after I mentioned the similarity between "The Numbers" and the Fibonacci numbers, Speaker mentions this on his blog and states that valenzetti attended the Fibonacci institute!
Dark Angel,
How do we know he wants to kill 30% of the world population?
So far we only know about his Sri Lanka island activities.
Hi Oodles
I am taking this from the fragment that says "The optimal mortality rate is 30%. Our operatives at the Vik Institute have verified this figure."
I am assuming therefore that this is the percentage by which the population needs to be reduced by to avoid the total destruction predicted by the Valnzetti equation without destroying civilisation.
It sounds possible, we survived the Black death in the 14th Century with a higher mortality rate.
Hi Monday Lad
So the virus that Hanso is producing - could it be similar to Captain Tripps?*
*For those of you not familiar with The Stand - Captain Tripps was the virus that wiped everyone out.
HansOz said...
Is it just me...or is the "student" raising his hand in the 354g8 sound EXACTLY like our Admin David? Does anyone know if that's him?
I think only David can answer that but I would be very suprised!
dark angel,
hmm, don't think so. I reckon right now he's talking about 30% of the villagers on the island in Sri Lanka (which is horrible enough) but as to what he intends to do afterwards we don't really know except to take the bodies on board the ship and do a 'full genetic work-up'.
I think he might isolate the dead, then go back to the survivors, isolate antibodies to the virus, use those to manufacture a vaccine, vaccinate a chosen segment of the world population and then unleash the virus on the world. Yikes. Maybe not. Pure speculation on my part.
rissy5959,
he said "we must hit precise genetic targets we have engineered into the virus", so I'm not really sure whether the 'targets' are a certain section of the population.
Hi oodles
Its difficult to tell but if he is talking about Sri Lanka surely the reason he needs 30% mortality in the villager is becase that is the figure needed globally.
Rissy5959 -
We had a discussion about this yesterday and the problem is there is no single cause for agression, anti-social behaviour etc. The idea of an agression gene is attractive but could not be further from the truth. I won't repeat my previous comments here but I have a background in genetics and a degree specialising in animal behaviour so I talk with some authority. Behaviours, especially in humans are highly comlex and ultimately are as a result of thousands of genes all of course with multiple fuctions elsewhwere. On top of this you have the influence of upbringing, culture, experience, culture, peer pressure etc etc.
It is certainly in theory possible to target a virus which will only effect individual with a specific genetic marker but not to a virus that only affected people who behaved in a specific manner.
I still think that this is far more about reducing the global population by 30% to prevent the apocalypse predicted by the Valenzetti Equation. The chances are at some point we will have an epidemic at somepoint that will do this anyway (Avian Flue, Ebola Renton?). it is a classic population model - a poplulation grows to a point where it can no longer support it self and then crashes due to a combination of starvation and disease. In small isolated population diseases are self limiting, the village or colony is killed but thats it. In our modern world a virus could spread across the world in weeks.
IMHO the Hanso Foundation are simply speeding up the inevitable in a controllable manner. Wipe out 30% of the Worlds population, solve the problems. You just ensure that those perople you really need - maybe 1000, 4400, 144,000 - I'm not sure.
Rissy5959 -
Just read your latest comment - I like the theory that the Hanso Foundation are evil beacause they are wiping out those with the potential to be bad ignoring the fact we can all overcome this.
I just have a problem with the scientific viability of this - but then again I guess that could be I suppose true for a lot of lost.
I assume the fragment is the one from the Manchester Glyph hunt
The Manchester Glyph has been found - but no codeyet -
check out http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4407/3467/0/image-upload-21-752933.jpg
Hi Matt
I think you have it - it is a map with the location of the three parts of the code.
On a side note for some reason my companyies software seems to block your avatar and website from view. They obviously consider you subversive or dangerous! ;)
rissy5959 -
You're right I'm probably giving the writers to much credit.
So if you're theory is right - which as you have pointed out fits in with the general direction of the show - if I'm a little bid bad do I get a little bit ill? :P
On a more serious note - is that why our Losties are not ill - they have all made mistakes but they are all basically 'good' and hence they have a chance to redeem themselves.
God that sounds all to Christian for my liking 'Redeem yee sinners or be dammed'
Phew Rissy - that's ok I was worried about full on Plague ;)
Arnezami - nice one - I was too lazy to look
Urgh... good luck Rissy hope your journey os traffic free
: )
http://www.hansoexposed.com/player/c105e3ec262de293eca73fb88ea73266
Perfect Order (65 Fragments)
Copy and paste in your navigation bar.
^^
Fits between 4ho and vou8vpnps5x?
i was just messing around....
Hi Guys
back from lunch - could someone let me know what the video fragment says - no audio at work
:(
thanks
Wow Makomk - you read my mind
thanks
Could be he is referring to 'The Numbers' or it could be the numbers of people who need to be eliminated
Time for a new post..???..Clue 130???
David is in Dallas though and It's only 8am there so he may not be able to update the Blog
Good Morning Losties!!! WOW!!! What a busy 24 hours!!! 4 more codes until this is over...YAY!!! Great Job to all of you who find these codes!!!
Morning, Prime!
I imagine Hugh was lying about the DHARMA Initiative being scrapped in 1985.
My thoughts are the Island is used as a location away from the World where DHARMA can carry out what research they want in total privacy.
I think the Island is also an area where things can be tested - the sickness, remote viewing, old smokie, the polar bears.
punchy sue said... I just wanted to thank Dennis for getting the screen shot (W/ an actual camera) of the Kimmel mug. Although I did watch the show, I could only get 3/5 of the code and 1/3 of that was wrong. So thanx Dennis! You got me somewhere I never dreamed of - on the leader board (whatever that's worth)! I know it means I could finally give something back to TLEC, another representitive leading the pack!
You are welcome! I'm glad someone from here was able to get it (if it wasn't going to be me :)
I just couldn't stay up any later to wait for HE to catch up.
Congratulations!
I wonder if DHARMA tried to manipulate the variables in the equation but shied aweay from the most obvious but least favourable variable to alter - the worlds population.
It is possible that this is what caused the split between Hanso and DHARMA. TVM was prepared to kill 30% of the Worlds population whilst DHARMA and perhaps Alvar Hanso were not.
HAHA on WIA.com someone has just photoed their bar with an oracle, but didnt put the oracle code in! :p
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whoa.
PeaceandNamaste
I think you are right, The Others are the original DHARMA team. They have split from HANSO. The question is wether they are still working to find a way to save the world
or
are they just trying to create a society to survive the end of the world. Is this the reason they need more people, just to make their society viable, they are however picky. they are not prepared to take people who would decide their fragile little society.
I wonder if Desmond knows more than he let on, thats why he asked if the World is still out there. He knew DHARMA had failed and assumed therefor ethe world had ended.
Was the button somehow linked to a method of trying to change one of the other variables hence Desmonds claim of Saving the World
Anyway I need to go to a meeting - "Claimks Philosophy" - yes it is exciting as it sounds.
Morning Grimlock! I love how we have all of these transformer names and avitars!!!
Dark Angel;
That's good, so that would make (in Fenry's eyes anyway) Dharma people = The Good Guys, and TWM people = The Bad Guys. I.E., the reason why Fenry replied to the Lostie's question on the dock, "We're the Good Guys." Fenry thinks that the Dhamra people are the Good Guys because they tried to solve the equation problem via humane methods, and TWM's "Phase 2 Radical Action", is not doing it humanely, as you said.
Mr. Party Boy said...
I appreciate the link of where to find the clues, but could guys at least ATTEMPT to make it some what coherent. Go HERE, then go HERE, then follow the link to HERE. Come on guys try and make your recaps a little more in depth please and explain how the clues were found.
Sorry Mr. Party Boy...I had a hard enough time understanding how/where all four pieces were found let alone crafting a legible post in bed, half asleep at 1am! I tried to clarify it a little this morning at 5:30am when I got up to check updates on the Jimmy Kimmel code. Since then I have made further edits. Sometimes, we've just got to give you guys the links and let you have some fun figuring it out on your own. To explain long glyph hunts like that would make for some REALLY long posts and we like to keep them brief. Sorry to disappoint you.
Everyone,
I was "all-in" yesterday but today I have to focus on some work stuff. Sounds like the latest fragments are confirming/sharpening the excellent discussions from the last thread. Just wanted to cheer you guys on and say "keep up the good work" and also say that I'm excited about going to the Apollo Candy event in Dallas tonight to meet some of you guys in person!
Hi Capcom
I really must get to that meeting, but yes I agree -
I think that the Others may be the good guys - although I am not sure about the Ethan /Aaron thing though.
Our Losties though are not the purest of the pure - half of them are responsible for at least one death - Kate, Jack, Sawyer, Anna Lucia, Boone, Sayid etc
right 3 o'clock I'm off
Namaste
Yes, the Dharma people seem to have lost their way as well over time (if our theories are correct). But I think that Fenry, et.al., still believes that compared to the TWM-driven phase, they are the Good Guys.
Although, this does not explain why the old Dharma people seem to have TWM's vaccine. Perhaps both teams are on the island at the same time and working at cross purposes? Thus why the Dharma people might be in hiding, maybe from the TWM team?
Aw heck, I dunno. :-) Can't wait to find out!
P.S. Agreed, Admin, you are doing a great job!!! Nothing wrong with using the K.I.S.S. principle in this very complicated wild goose chase! :-)
I definitely had the impression that the Island Dharma people had been infiltrated by the military, either government sponsored or paramilitary.
David - I am all in today unless I get super busy at work! Go take care of bussiness I have it covered if need be. I have my doubts we will get much more today, but you never know....
GOOD MORNING TLEC!!!
Cool, we're almost done. Just wanted to say what's up...
WV-KISDAY...Kiss Day, right on!!!
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Sheesh, and BOTH teams think that they are the Good Guys, just because they are making the attempt to save the world.
"We're the good guys!", "No, WE'RE the good guys!"
One thing puzzles me in our theories though, how is it that in real-time, TWM is just now getting his virus out, and the Dharma Island Team (via our show in 2004-time) already has one? Maybe the Dharma team did have a faction working on this solution, and TWM's just ticked off that it took them too long to perfect it because they were trying to be humane about it. Perhaps they are still injecting themselves with their vaccine that really didn't work as well as TWM's?
Good Morning all,
Glad to see TBTP fixed the Kimmel code, and looks like the UK thing is going well.
Question for those of you who are more familiar with the frags than me...we lack four fragments at this point...how many gaps do you think we have left in the Mr Beardy and TWM sections of the video?
I'm curious to find out if any of the frags left will shed more light on Rachel's capture and escape.
-still hoping to validate my "Saved by a Chocolated Crazed Joop" theory-
If anyone wants to see the videos from the Lost - Season 2 - Best Buy Exclusive DVD, they are on YouTube:
On Location 'The Other 48 Days'
On Location 'What Kate Did'
Hidden Blooper
Deleted Scene from 'Everybody Hates Hugo'
Deleted Scene 'Scissors'
Deleted Scene 'Good With Kids'
Thanks Shakey. Perhaps we'll never know how she escaped. Not sure I'm ready to see her racing around in her bloomers. I would like a clip of TWM recognizing her and saying "I can't believe it's you! How dare you betray us?"
If anyone is interested in the Manchester glyph hunt, Nickb123 is posting an overview of the search here:
http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/User:Nickb123/manchester
Dennis - Can you message me on my blogger email? Would like to meet up at the Lex event if possible...
Thanks
Has anyone been to tone of the apollo events that also had an Acura event along with it? How did it go?
The "Numbers" most likely, and this makes it VERY complex, have more then one meaning or significance. Depending on how the 4815162342 numbers are strung together, they could point to:
The depopulation amount
The Beginning of the Dooms Day Equation
The actual Isle Location
and several others
When we learn (as promised by TPTB) the meaning of the numbers by TLE Game conclusion, it may only be ONE part of the overall solution.
We thought it was complex before...it may become more so...soon....
http://users.newblog.com/thinbluemime/?post_id=9633
PeaceAndNamaste said...
...the person who originally made the allegations was replaced by none other than *forgot the name*
Peter Thompson...
Remember back in the first season, we found out that the radio tower on the island was originally broadcasting the numbers over and over again? Could that have been part of one of the experiments, or the Dharmas attempt to broadcast that information off of the island? Maybe they discovered the numbers onthe island, and were trying to get that info to Hanso when Rousseau took over the tower.
PeaceAndNamaste said...
"I'm not a mathematics major, but I don't see how it would be possible for an equation to spew out a string of integers that would be the numerical equivelant of a date... How could that happen?"
I already have, and without plugging my research anymore, the above link explains in part the date of March 4, 1948, and how it easily converts from 4815162342 via a Julian Day Conversion Chart
Hi Guys
Catching up after returning from my meeting .
Some very good points, I'm torn between the numbers being the optimum population figure and the date. But it could be both, what if the numbers were a kind of universal constant. A bit like the Fibonacci sequence (the golden ratio) which shows up all over the place. So it could be the numbers are not only essential to the Valenzetti Equation but also appear naturally in all sorts of situations.
I think more likely that we will never find out why the numbers appear everywhere and that it just TPTB messing with us.
Well Guys I'm off home - I'll check in later
Looking forward to the London Glyph hunt tommorow - pity I don't still work in London d'oh
Boyo81......I kind of got the feeling watching the X-Files, that everything had meaning...then in the end, they explained very little and copped out with the Mayan calendar date for the end of the world. I certainly hope that Lost doesn't end like that, and that TPTB make the effort to tie up the loose ends that they've thrown out in the show, the way a good mystery writer should.
Man, I want to shoot HE.com right in it's freakin head. It just screwed up all my glyphs...ARRRGGGG!!! Well, cack to the drawing board...
Boyo81, that was too funny about characters being replaced, etc.! :-)
PeaceAndNamaste said...
"thinbluemime, i've read aout that efore, and tried it myself. Every 'Julian Day Convertor' or Julian Date Convertor I have found always gives me the same result: 5th August, 1318
Can you please show me or link me to how/where you came up with March 4 (oh, thats my birthday lol)1948? Thanks :)"
Yes, go here 1st:
http://www.tesre.bo.cnr.it/~mauro/JD/
Reverse the "numbers" to get 2432615184
Add a decimal to stay within the Julian Day Date conventions:
2432615.184
And your results will look like this:
http://lostdude.com//lostpics/March41948JulianDay_4815162342Capture.jpg
I will be away from the keyboard for a while, work beckons.....I hope this clears up some confusion. Also there are other Julian Day conversion sites, I have tried several, following the above process, and March 4, 1948 is the end results.
Morning all: Some great, thought-provoking discussions (as usual) re the meaning of it all!
Here's my take in a very short version: Alvar had the VE which predicted the "exact" date of armageddon. Sets up Dharma to prepare humanity for this event...very hippy-like vision of an uptopian, Shangra-La society emerging afterwards. But somehow things begin to go wrong and the Dharma scientists don't like where Dharma is heading with THF. TWM takes over THF and has a much different vision than Alvar realizing that the variables in the VE can be manipulated. Funding cut off for DI and scientists remain on the island in isolation thinking maybe armageddon did take place and they are left to re-inhabit the world. Are surprised and suspicious when the Losties arrive. Meanwhile, TWM, with the "new" Hanso Foundation begins to manipulate the variables of the VE towards their own purposes: population control, tribal wars, organ harvesting (leading to life extension), etc. TWM seems under a time pressure to get all this going (although why Rachel is taking such a long time to get this video out is beyond me). He is trying to control the variables with the "thinning" of the population via this genetic engineered virus/vaccine. He plans to set up a new Dharma Initiative on the island (most likely the LOST island) to survive the aftermath of armageddon and be in control of the brave new world.
This is a simplified rendition of my thoughts, and there are probably a lot of holes in this, but I wanted to get in my 2 cents into the discussion. Thanks.
Mightybk-I like that theory...
BTW, All of them are good, his just stuck out...
boyo81: I warned you there can be holes! LOL The way I can explain the continued food drops is that since, according to Alvar, these were set up in perpetuity, nobody got the memo to stop them! That's the simple, silly answer.
However, maybe THF knows those scientists were left behind, but since Radzinski, Kelvin and Desmond are still maintaining the Swan hatch through the years, they kept up the food drops, until they decide what to do with the island and all that they invested in the construction on it. (Another simplified answer)
maven - I agree with a lot of what you're saying (especially the idea of Dharma as a bunch of hippies - I have ALWAYS thought that!), but here's another take - when Dharma didn't like where HF was heading, they pulled away deliberately, and kept working on the solution on their own. Maybe Hanso made a point of ensuring that the food drops would happen in perpetuity for a reason - this way, Dharma could fly under the radar, without continuous funding.
I also think that the Others were not at all surprised by the plane crash. With the speed with which Goodwin infiltrated them (and presumably, Ethan as well), they must have been prepared. I don't know how, but it would seen to be too much of a coincidence that they could have their people in the right place at the right time otherwise.
WV: gabwoks.... chatty, gossiping ewoks?
peaceandnamaste - good point about the subjects... could the others be both? I would imagine that if they had been abandoned on that island for 20 years, eventually the scientists and subjects would mingle. Or maybe like Kelvin, Desmond, the Losties, etc, their subjects are whomever finds their way to the island?
boyo81: regarding the drops, didn't beardy say the island would be supplied in perpetuity? my opinion is, resupplying was contracted out (a la halliburton) and has little to do with any events at thf, di or abc.
Hey guys. The guy in Ixalons pic Nickb123 has got a blog up as well with some good info and JUICE strained from radnom C4 PTB and the Other Girl (I call CLONE! on her ass). Read his notes at the end of the blog. Interesting Stuff!
The leaderboard for HE means *nothing* except for the kudos factor. So I guess TOG really needs to stop getting interns to write her blog for her. Hehe.
Anyway the LINK
I was just talking to him in IRC. Seems about 20 people turned up. Not bad considering it was a week day, there wasn't a lot of notice and of course the general apathy factor.
Apparently TOG didn't want Ixalon to put up her pic. I hope he does though just because I'm still suspicious there is more then one TOG (hence the CLONE comment).
Dennis, thanks very much for posting the Bonus clips. The one about "What Kate Did' was great the way it introduced the horse used, Black Pearl. So sweet. :-)
radnom = random
and it's not so much a blog as a page on lostpedia. Lol.
found the quote, it's glyph #29
"All of the support you will need, including regular medicine and food drops, will be made in perpetuity."
Thanks for the link Fenris! Interesting, and it looks like they had a good time.
So...concerning finding codes before they are released....TPTB really DO underestimate the smarts of the players, even still at this far into the game? They aren't paying attention very well, but I guess they have a lot to monitor and think about.
oxillini said... boyo81: regarding the drops, didn't beardy say the island would be supplied in perpetuity? my opinion is, resupplying was contracted out (a la halliburton) and has little to do with any events at thf, di or abc.
I hope they didn't hire the same people that are distributing the Apollo bars, or our Losties are screwed!
dennis, well there aren't any PR people on the island for the interns to not call. otherwise, the drops would be seized at the island and the deliverers arrested!
Have you guys seen timdorr's WIA.com pic. It's the apollo bar in the window of the Narvik building...Very funny...
I have to say though: Did anyone actually think WIA is Act 5? I certainly didn't. I just assumed it AND Appolo was Act 4.
*shrug*
But anyway, I would accept if I was wrong about TOG, but then we'd be back on my accusations of her being sloppy/lazy. Okay maybe she didn't expect Speaker to take it to the next level like he did. But Ninja managed to keep up to a reasonable level and that just left TOG looking like she was out of the loop.
I must give some serious kudos to the folks in the UK...not only for making the glyph hunt really fun and not just "go here and it will be given to you." It seems that they had put some serious effort into it and the folks playing over there seemed to really enjoy themselves...Awesome coverage on the blog Nick!!!! I am envious!
Gavin - Thanks for that, brightened my day.... :)
Man, that UK thing was awesome, I just read Nick's thing on Lostpedia and it sure looked pretty cool. We need something like that next time around in the US...Are you listening TPTB!!!
And they mentioned TLEC, how cool is that...
Finally got my very own apollo bar at the New York event, psyched.
Yeah, Nick's account of the UK glyph hunt was awesome! Thanks for that rundown, Nick! Loved that you got to chat with the UK PTB! Why can't the US PTB do something similiar? These giveaways here are just giveaways, no real thought involved. Oh, well. Maybe next time. LOL
I'm back on the comments. Can't do chat room.
Just had to make that bitter childish comment. Sorry.
I may be corrected in time but for now I don't buy the "TWM wants to kill 30% of the world population" theory.
That's 2 billion people! It would have given rise to a 'slightly' different reaction on the part of the scientist in the front row.
Also, remember GidgetGirl: She and Hugh knew exactly what's going on which is why they sent Rachel to Sri Lanka to document it. In her video Gidgetgirl said: Especially after you uncover what’s happening in Sri Lanka. So, be safe love, and get the bastards for me will ya? Once this is all said and done we’ll have martinis in Monte Carlo.
Would she be saying something like that if 2 billion lives were at stake? Also, she says "... what's happening in Sri Lanka...", not "what's happening to the world".
Another thought: Maybe Mittelwerk is not gonna do his evil deed at all. Maybe this is just another mindgame to see how far people would go if they were thinking they were gonna save 'the world as we know it'.
I don't think TPTB talking about the game and their interactions with the actual PTB is a good thing. It breaks through the fourth wall in a HULK SMASH kind of way that undermines how well Ninja and Speaker have done with their sites and the glyphs they've been a part of. If
I was Speaker or Ninja right now... people who've cultivated their own personas and put a lot of hard work and creativity into the game... I'd be pissed off.
Dennis said...
"oxillini said... boyo81: regarding the drops, didn't beardy say the island would be supplied in perpetuity? my opinion is, resupplying was contracted out (a la halliburton) and has little to do with any events at thf, di or abc."
I hope they didn't hire the same people that are distributing the Apollo bars, or our Losties are screwed!
LOL, Dennis - you made my day.
I'm in oodles camp. 2 billion bodies would be a heck of a mess to clean up. Of course, I don't have a better alternative either, so don't ask me.
RE: the Sri Lanka Vid; I really don't understand how TWM thinks that he can rid the world of "...war, famine, and poverty..." by reducing the percentage of humans in the world (or whatever the figure that can't be off means). For that to happen he would have to remove the element of free will in mankind, and turn everyone into sheeple-robots, who never ever feel and act on their impulses, be they greed, hate, envy, etc.
I can understand trying to stop a particular predicted war between certain factions maybe, or to stop famine in a particular country via curtailing population growth. Which would mean using the VE in a sonctant state of improvement for the world. But for TWM to think that he/we can cure the material world that we live in of all its material problems, is just way too naive. How can you stop the weather from destroying crops, for instance? And even if you do manage to complete whatever this cure for the world is, how do you stop humans from going back to their old wicked ways of killing each other for land, coveting things they shouldn't have etc.? I am really waiting to see if TPTB address this either on the show or in the ARG.
I think us players in the US got screwed out of the real world glyphs. the only two I can think of are the one TAp found on jensens car and that was silliness where it was already entered and the one that djdan mentioned in his podcast, which would both be in LA area. So for all us US fans our only shot at the leaderboard was the race to put in the code when glyph that all of us knew about were released later, and that is whickitty whak.
Belly - If anything happens in the next few hours it is up to you unless I find it or find out about in here or the chat. My e-mail is down and I am not getting anythign at the moment.
Oodles, if this is what you suggested, just another test, then it is that psych test the Milgram Experiment on a grand scale! Considering what the video at the Pearl Station said....but that would be crazy.
And I would be officially as ticked off at the Lost PTBs as I was at the X-Files PTBs, if this is the case! :-)
today is like yesterday where there are no clues for the glyph released and somebody in the know is gonna input it later , now that is fun
hey cap what are u talking about with tptb i missed that
Maybe if I wash ninja costume or get speaker some munchiess from the store maybe ill get a heads up on one of the last four
a good part of the glyphs have been found while us americans sleep
or they are just on some old site that we looked at a million times, none of the slick riddles and clues like the early part of the game, except for the one david distributed
hey did u ever see the pic of speaker???without his black mask
http://www.flickr.com/photos/speaker/
LMAO
he better stick to the black mask and white glasses
i meant the physical glyphs
A fragment is released! Yeah!
Oh, but I don't have a clue as to where it could be.
We've gotten them from Speaker, Ninja and TOG in the last 24 hours. Does this mean Glyph 67 will be found on one of the Asian sites?
the djdan podcast was too late for me
nice idea fasten
2costa said...
I think us players in the US got screwed out of the real world glyphs. the only two I can think of are the one TAp found on jensens car and that was silliness where it was already entered and the one that djdan mentioned in his podcast, which would both be in LA area.
You forgot about the "Fresh Air" Times Square glyph...
Do we consider the two we got last night as today? I was thinking (hoping) that we've only received one today...from Manchester and The Other Girl.
I looked on apollo's site and DJ Dan's site and I found nothing...Don't waste your time. Now what..
dazzedelph most of the ones you sited were online and i consider that up for grabs for anyone around the world except for maybe china(online censorship). I was referring to ones on bridges or in comic shops and yes the comiccon had three glyph, but nodbody that was there got them it took speaker giving us a high def photo. The djdan podcast one wasn't even active when they found it
RyaNDrumZ said... I looked on apollo's site and DJ Dan's site and I found nothing...Don't waste your time. Now what..
I'm checking RDB right now...
on jimmy kimmel it still took somebody taking a screen shot. and since everyone knew the code for the djdan one that was up for grabs. It is like the highlander dazze there can only be ONE
and lately all the clues and riddles are little inside jokes for speaker or ninja
sublyomonal hasnt had anything good for a while and as far as I can tell Mel"does it better" was nothing more than an internet love note to speaker for his wife..
I'm thinking The Fuselage might be a viable place to search, though I have the hardest time maneuvering there.
Today's not a magazine day is it?
Has anyone checked that site that monitors changes?
from speaker to his wife mel
Another glyph has been released.
it just seems like the hardcore speaker and ninja groupies have been fairing pretty well lately.
like this glyph now there is no fun looking for a glyph that you know you have no hope of finding or no clue at all, but thats just me. If you find the game entertaning now dazzledelf more power to you... wake me up when its over
"does it better" is a perfect example of us racking our brain, but for what
i got into this cause i like the show lost and i cant wait for it to come back on
as much as I love padding verizon,monster,jeep,sprite,abc, disneyand who ever elses pockets. I cant help feeling like we are all just a huge focus group to test online advertising strategies for the 21st century
benito,
I didn't know that you already knew about #67. I had to take care of business for a while there and must have missed it. I read through the comments but must have missed it. Sorry.:(
Hey guys, I totally sympathize with your frustration and you have every right to express it, but would you mind slowing down a minute? Or maybe combining your thoughts in a longer post? A few folks here are trying to look (possibly fruitlessly!) and it's kinda hard to follow that string of thought. Thank you!
island was referring to 67
It was only me griping fasten and Im done
no worries 2costa, i feel your pain!
looks like one of those tags from the UK hunt.....
Posted by Frosty at ITE:
This myspace.com bulletin from Speaker was posted 2 min. prior to last glyph being released!!
From: Speaker
Date: Sep 6, 2006 11:22 AM
Subject How is everyone today?
Body: The Fuselage is the place to be,
Find the user, initials K.P.
did i call it or what? i guessed the fuselage!
sorry for the gloat, but that's about as close to the leaderboard as i'm ever gonna get.
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Yeah, fasten! I saw you mention that earlier. And, yes, that site is impossible to navigate!
Hey Maven! How are ya? I'm bouncing around the fuselage like a pinball right now. No glyphs, but it's fun in a frenetic sort of way.
man... without a user id it is impossible to figure that site out... K.P. Like Kim Possible????? sounds like another Kim Possible lead....
Doing good, fasten! Happy hunting at the Fuselage!
that's a really good thought dixxee.
are there any other catch phrases from the Kim Possible show? MTP found the last clue by searching the lage for "what's the sitch". I beleive that is popular phrase from the show? I have never watched it.
I must be really out of it. I don't even know what Kim Possible is. LOL
I just went thru all the users on the lage who's name contains a K. Nobody matches the intials KP exactly. There is a KPP, but they are from the Spain forum.
Heard this about Eko?
PeaceAndNamaste said...
"thebluemime, thanks for clarying what you meant. However I do think that the numbers meaning a certain date that you get when you flip them around and feed them into a Julian Day convertor is a bit convoluted."
We don't disagree then :)
It is convoluted, and I could be wrong. In time, I think we will know for sure though. We will just have to wait.
As a side note, and I know I am not alone in this, early on, I manipulated the "numbers" "every which way but loose" :)
I diagramed them, converted them into binary and hex numbers, cyphered them with different encryption methods, I skip coded them, I even tried putting them into a grid simialr to Lenny's Connect 4 grid....(dont say lost fans are not obsessed :)
The only one that eventually made sense was the Julian Day Conversion.
Again for those that want to follow along, a new blog with the old info all in one place (Kinda).
Common OCT 4!!!!!!!!
OOppss...forgot the URL
http://users.newblog.com/thinbluemime/?post_id=11383
Mityh: There seems to be a LOST curse! LOL
what is speakers myspace page?
arnezami: Who is MP. I have never seen the show.
#67 has been found.
Not me though :(
I was trying to find anything 'Lars' related (Johnny's pet frog) but was probably on the wrong track as usual...
Anyone know where #67 is?
Kylelane; OK, maybe I'm taking what TWM says in the video too literally? I'm hanging on TWM's every word! :-)
I looked at every user on the fuselage and nobody thats posted in the last week had the intitals K.P., yet another gimme for one of speakers freinds or himself(johnhatch)
a lot of shady ones have been found and put out lately
there was no way a regular player could find that one
3 to go then this madness is over
Posted by Speaker on ITE:
Sorry - working on something.
quick version - Myspace to fuselage to the DJ DAN live thread I started during the podcast - flash (Coaltrain's a homophone for Coltrane...Rosco P's Dog is FLASH) Flash commented to click on the winner of SYTYCD at top 8 week 4.
Posted by: Speaker | September 06, 2006 at 01:05 PM
1 uk glyph so only 2 left
Mr. Beard, "The tranmitter will only broadcast the core numerical values of the Valenzetti equation."
Sorry my blogger went down right when I posted that. Don't know anymore of the details and have to go... so someone can email Belly with the rest of the details.
ya i'm sure someone figured that out in the last hour and a half
Very awesome, to bad we couldn't find it...Almost done with this @#$%
it goes after vaccine
In all seriousness, I'm over McBeardy. Please please, no more McBeardy clips. I really really really want to know how Rachel escaped the vaccinating goons.
As long as it's not the popular theory of her stripping off her pants like some sort of Anna Nicole Houdini.
Fasten, I don't think her escape is part of the video
I'm with you fasten, No more Alvar...
Except the stripping of the pants wouldn't be so bad...
v4umma is the glyph fosty found, in case someone didnt get that.
Alvar/Beardy: "The transmitter will only broadcast the core numerical values of the Valenzetti Equation."
so 4815162342 is an integral part of the VE...hmmmm
I'm not convinced 5xw30 is the last glyph... Rachel says "it's..." right before that fragment ends. My guess is the final fragment has to be Rachel saying it's me....Alvar Hanso's Daughter/Love Slave/Friend With Benefits.... But I could be wrong!!
With only 3 left -- what "bombshell" could be remaining? Rachel's rescue/escape?
Hi, Lena!
New post on front page...
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