Clue #130 - Fragment Code "V4UMMA"
Fragment code "V4UMMA" has been found in yet another one of Speaker's fun and challenging glyph hunts. Speaker posted a new bulletin on his Myspace page saying: "The Fuselage is the place to be, Find the user, initials K.P." We know Speaker likes Kim Possible so if you view Kim Possible's profile on the Fuselage, you'll see "When DJDan streamed live on the net" as the Custom Title and "There was a comment from a coaltrain's pet" as the Personal Text.
During DJ Dan's live broadcast, Speaker started this thread on his blog. "Coaltrain's pet" is in reference to Rosco P. Coltrane from The Dukes of Hazard, whose pet's name was Flash. Scroll through the post to find a comment by the user "Flash" who says: "to top 8 number 4 is where you should prance, click on the winner of so you think you can dance.." Finally, go back to Speaker's MySpace page and click on his Top 8 , Number 4, then on the winner of So You Think You Can Dance to see the newest glyph.
Stay up to date with your hansoexposed.com fragment codes by visiting Matt the Pale's Fragment Code List.
Thank you very much to Albatross, Sleeper, Jed, Scott and SgtPepper for their emails on this!
During DJ Dan's live broadcast, Speaker started this thread on his blog. "Coaltrain's pet" is in reference to Rosco P. Coltrane from The Dukes of Hazard, whose pet's name was Flash. Scroll through the post to find a comment by the user "Flash" who says: "to top 8 number 4 is where you should prance, click on the winner of so you think you can dance.." Finally, go back to Speaker's MySpace page and click on his Top 8 , Number 4, then on the winner of So You Think You Can Dance to see the newest glyph.
Stay up to date with your hansoexposed.com fragment codes by visiting Matt the Pale's Fragment Code List.
Thank you very much to Albatross, Sleeper, Jed, Scott and SgtPepper for their emails on this!
160 Comments:
top 5!!!
Top 5!!!
okay top 5. now where's the trail?
Anybody here, helloooooooo......!!!!!!
Hey lostmyid...
top 7!
Hello!! Top Ten!!!
Passafist...i think the phrase you were looking for is "I'm Alvar's parthenogenic offspring. Now hands off me before I unleash my Whirlpool Washer and Dryer!"
anyone have any guesses as to what is going to happen next once this is out of the way? we still have about a month untill season 3 starts.
LOL FASTEN!!!
here and there..Maybe Rachel will be releasing a special bonus DVD of fragments that were cut from the final Sri Lanka video.
Personally, I can't wait for the Sri Lankan bloopers highlights.
I have a feeling there are selective edits from the video that will be a part of phase 5 or something. Maybe part of a Rachel Blake heel turn where we find out she edited the video to make THF look like the bad guys or something.
That, or I just need a nap. :)
HansoLow said...
GLYPH CHART has been updated...
Just wanted to say thanks for keeping (and making) the chart up to date. I really like the convenience of everything in one location, and a neat format :)
"heelturn" where'd you get that form?
lol - my older brother watched pro-wrestling when I was little. The lingo stuck.
I'll bet the orientation video has been edited just like the pearl orientation video, furthermore, I'll bet they find a copy on the island this season in it's complete form. I'd bet my bottom apollo bar on it
Fasten: Love your sense of humor! Can you imagine the "wrap" party for the Sri Lanka Video where the blooper reel would be shown?
28! yah! hey maven back at ya!
i thought so....funny....very funny...."heel turn" is in my day to day vocab....so is "no-sell"
mjm3, I agree...This will be found on the island probably, That's how the rest of the world will be able to catch up on our 2 months of glyph hunting...They'll get it for nothin. ARRRGGGG!!! Oh well.
arnezami said...
"So the VE may be an equation that predicts the time left for us humans to survive. And just like the drake equation needs parameters so does the VE. In the case of the VE the parameters have so far always been the Numbers.
The goal is to change at least ONE of these numbers to delay the destruction of mankind.
So the numbers are not the output but the input of the VE."
I tend to agree. There has to be a "start" location or time to be able to progress to the end predicted by the VE
Haha, Jonah - called me on my inner nerd. And in a game like this, that's saying a lot. I'm such a Dwight.
Arnezami - I tend to agree with your idea. It makes me wonder though, when we'll find out what each number represents if they're all different parameters. And is each of the 6 numbers tied to one of the 6 stated research goals for the DI?
Any idea where this tid bit goes?
Were we told to watch out on Jimmy Kimmel Live again tonight?
thrasher - I'd say right after "vaccine"
dfizz said... anyone else think thefuselage is the MOST COMPLICATED, weirdest, hardest to find anything, site EVER?
YES
dfizz,
I personally cant figure out ninjas blog.
Thasher!!!! DUDE!
Gotta get up to speed on the podcast! MUST record you (and hopefully everyone else from TLEC) THIS WEEK!
Yes, The-Fuselage is the most annoying site. Am I the only one who has to login after I move from screen to screen and their are no graphic's on the page only little red x's. I gave up on it once I discovered the TLEC!
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Ok, expanding on the question I posed above; If the numbers are variables of the equation or parameters or whatever, then is it safe to assume that the 6 research goals of the Dharma Initiative (zoology, electromagenetism, etc etc) are each specific to trying to change ONE of those specific variables?
oh man,
blogger is buggy (and sorry about my stats stuff - now deleted - meant to post text that blogger just did not want to post, now it's in byte heaven arrgghh)
anyway, nice to see it confirmed that the numbers are part of the equation (numerical values of whatever factors).
Sploich, I finally couldn't take it anymore so I had to change it myself.
On another note, the video doesn't need to be on the island to show up in season three, it could be part of a flashback or it could be shown to someone in the outside world, the producers have said that we will see things happening off island this season. I still wouldn't rule out the others having a copy though.
LOL - I'm watching a Daily Show re-run and they're doing a report on nanobots.
missmegs - Wow. I was all about to post a comment that "heel turn" is a military term for turning 180 degrees on one's heel. Then the wrestling connection finally dawned on me. Man. I know I've been out of the wrestling loop for a while, but I shoulda got that a LOT sooner.
Love wrestling lingo. It's so highbrow/lowbrow. "Heel turn," "face turn," "cheap pop"...use 'em all the time.
What's funny though is that the military definition would have worked too.
Der.
Replace "180 degrees" with "sharply and suddenly".
transcript of the new clip anyone?
Well, now we know what the numbers mean...
thebookpolice - haha, I thought about that too, but I figured I oughta fess up. I call people marks all the time and they stare at me blankly.
speaker DENIED my friend request a few weeks ago, lol. Single tear :*(
the core numerical values of the VE, what the crap is that supposed to mean? a lot of hand waving and "oh, it's math stuff, pay no attention to the numbers" is this the big reveal on the numbers they promised or is there going to be more?
***spoiler****
I'm guessing that we'll see the orientation film either in a Penny episode (she must be researching the island by now, right?) or in a flashback for one of the new characters, whom it seems is an Other.
i'm seriously pissed if this is the big revela on the numbers. i'll wait until the whole video is complete and reserve judgement however.
Maybe it's just me, but I'd be surprised if the last few frags yield much in the way of surprise. We've already found out that TWM is going to purposely kill people to find an answer to his problem, that's pretty shocking.
Problem is, this phase has gone on sooooo long, that we have had too much time to speculate a million different intelligent surprise endings, and I fear that whatever they throw at us now will not be too shocking since we've already guessed at it so much. I hope that I'm wrong.
The last 3 clips will be of Rachel's escape!!
You heard it here first!!!
Core Value....Like the one CENTRAL or the one in the CENTER LOL
I luv it :)
does everyone agreewith the video order at Lostpedia? Probably a dumb question.
Capcom, you're so right...Whatever happens at the end, it won't be a big deal since it's been beaten to death with all theorizing...Now we just need to figure out who made that original theory on TLEC and give them a cookie if they were the one who guessed it right...HAHAHA LOL.
Hey speaker what's happenin dude. Where can I get me some of those sweat glasses...J/K
Maybe the encrypted core value, 4815162342, has to be de-crypted...in a convoluted manner (wink)
Good question N.I.K. because how also did Hurley's buddy in the asylum (and his war-buddy) happen to accidently pick it up? Where were they, on a navy ship or something? I forget. Sorry that I can't remember the details, hope you know what I mean.
Maybe they just happened to pick up the frequency, but the enryption would more difficult. Perhaps HF had an enigma machine. :-)
Haha - I figured it was an accident. You added me when I tried again a week later. No worries!
try the previous thread, for "convoluted" to see what I mean LOL
Ryan - I beleive and correct me if I am wrong but Fenris and Matt the Pale were both pretty much dead on with the video theory...
RGMR and 56LHZJDCL7A4 can't go together I've tried it and Beardy has half a word at the beginning of 56LHZJDCLA4 that doesn't fit with the end of RGMR? The video makes no sense that way. Methinks were stil;l missing one beardy clip!!
my problem with this explanation is that "the core numerical values" is the vaguest possible "out" tptb could choose. imagine you have 6 mysterious, seemingly unrelated words. they keep popping up everywhere you go. you comeup with many ideas on what they could mean. later, someone says, "oh, all of those words are in shakespeare's hamlet in no particular order." i'm left with a big "is that seriously all they have to say about it?!?"
Methinks we are still missing fragments 11, 24, and 28. Don't agree that RMGR and 56LHZJDCL7A4 are contiguous. The tilt of the head is different and there is something missing in the text.
Although the equation has been buried by those who commissioned it... [...] ...panic. It has always been my belief that we ignore warnings at our own peril; and thus, the DHARMA Initiative was born.", unless of course the video itself is missing a bit there. I do think the 'empty denim clip' is the last bit as one can hear the familiar 'blip'.
*takes a bow*
Thank you Chad.
Really I was just stringing random words together, if they happened to mean something it was just a co-incidence. :)
But then that's what I'm doing now too.
Yikes, Fenris has been lurking! :-)
what's the first thing you need to know, before you take a road trip?
You first need to know where you are......
I know , sounds overly simplistic.
But to predict the future with an equation, there must be a begin date, a place to start
Most of us result to Lurking during the slow moments of the game, like now!! But the comments have been great the past few days!!
jj_jimmy: wow - that's sad.
Reminds me - we're dangerously short on ApolloBar donations for ApolloTrade, if any of you have multiples and have realized that framing chocolate doesn't work ;) I know a kid in Sweden that'd really appreciate a donation!
thrasher.. we can smell blood in the air......the kill is on the horizon....
MissMegs - I am going to the Philly event on Saturday if I get more than 2 I will sign up with your blog!
huzzah! I'm gonna try to get a bunch at the Santa Monica one.
belly - I feel you. The first time I tried to post our 200 person Trade list it did that and I had to start over. :(
Take your time, we'll be patient!
FastenYourSeatBelts: Email the admins please
NIK - I did not mean to come across as having favorites or anything, and I said correct me if I am wrong...clearly I am. Beleive me this is the best forum for this game and without ALL OF YOU this would go nowhere fast!
Kudos to all the great minds and people that have created some truly great theories! I never intended to alienate anyone with the previous comment...
Young wallace! HI! *waving hand*
thinbluemime, you are totally correct IMHO. While it's probably futile to overanalyse the VE etc. in scientific terms I agree that you can't plug in population sizes, no's of nuclear warheads or whatever and have an equation spew out a DATE at the end. You would need a start date and then perhaps a numerical result could stand for the number of hours, days or whatever til the end of days. Which kind of reminds me of my theory about the Pearl log print-out - I think the starting timestamp of the log could be the number of hours that have passed since the time the arrangement of the trigrams in the Bagua were revealed to Fu Hsi, legendary ruler of China (traditional dates: 2852 BC-2738 BC).
Could this be the starting point for the VE as well?
glyph #68 is released
Capcom - Well if by "Lurking" you mean popping into the room in a spare few minutes (and despite my headache) and using ctrl+f to check if anyone is talking about me, then yes :)
Plus you never know when those "Fenris is a bonehead" threads will start up.
glyph 68 on the loose.....
Not here Fenris! This site is too nice. :-)
Sorry that you have a headache. If you get serious ones, try Imitrex. I can live a normal life now with it. **Disclaimer: I do not have any gainful-means relationship with this product, other than as a prescribed user** :-)
Young Wallace said...
FastenYourSeatBelts: Email the admins please
9/06/2006 04:58:13 PM
Emailed as requested sir!
(why do i feel like i'm being called to the principal's office?)
;>)
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For headaches I use NAP, and I highly recommend it.
You can find it in the corner of your bed room, usually next to your pillow, as in...
I have a headache, I need to take a nap LOL
haha, I use NAP too! In fact...
night for a while guys, Ill be up in time to watch Jimmy Kimmel.
oodles, I hope we find out soon...I saw speaker in here a few moments ago. Maybe he can shed some light in our dark corner (?)
Wait, maybe I'm wrong with the JKL, Not really sure.
any clues on number 68
Could #68 be the glyph The Other Girl is referring to in her blog? An actual hunt in London?
im thinking that it just got released so its not the England one
lost ninja has a cryptic clue up on his blog, "On the Rocks you'll find your way,
Hurry there and namaste." with an attachment that shows a part of a glyph.
2costa: not quite sure what time it is in London so I wasn't sure.
all right tlec-ers, i'm off to the dallas apollo giveaway. wish us luck!
and go get that glyph!
fysb: good luck!
There's still 12 hours until the London hunt begins, so this could be that code.
When and where did Speaker say to watch Kimmel again?
If true, could it mean to watch Kimmel clips on abc.com?
Hey Pandora! :D
Do we know of anyone who's going to the London hunt?
Please disregard my JKL comment, I will delete my comment. I was wrong...
Me too, I'm heading on over to the Dallas ABC Apollo Candy Preview Shindig.
Dig y'all later.
interesting wikipedia entry on "on the rocks" other than just ice cubes. "On the rocks can also mean "in deep trouble" or "wrecked", as in "His career is on the rocks" or "Her marriage is on the rocks". In this sense the saying comes from nautical terminology, as when a ship is wrecked by going aground on the rocks.
The term can also mean that someone is in debt or bankrupt.""
Wrecked is obvious, but the marriage on the rocks and career on the rocks is oddly particular to Rose and Bernard and maybe Locke?
It's probably a real world glyph again out in Australia, like on the rocks by the ocean...I don't know.
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I'm off for the night guys (and later then I should have been).
Hopefully I'll be less knackered and headachey tomorrow.
Btw, anyone wants to check my final arg theory it's blogged on my myspace.
I should plug my myspace account more don't you think
:) Good luck with the next glyph. Actually I expect probably all the last glyphs will be found before I get back from work tomorrow. woohoo. Just hope we go straight to Act 5 rather then having just choclate going on.
I'm actually quite looking forward to seeing Rachel again. Strange.
[yes this is take 2 for anyone that is bashing F5]
The "on the rocks and Namaste" led to part of a glyph found earlier; pieces were on Speakers and Ninjas site.
later bro...
Done lurking for the day--going home--good luck on finding glyph 68--it will probably be found by the time I log back on this evening!
isle of dogs? dogon, there might be a clue here:
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/lostdogon/
The post on Lost Ninja is dated today at 1:44 so it must be different clue. Check the post for yourself if you don't believe me. And I just noticed, there's a picture of the Brady Bunch (for some reason) but Cindy Brady's face is replaced by Speaker's face.
sh*t, you're right, the glyph seems to match up, but then why did he post about it again today? was it because we were having such a tough time finding it so they're beating it over our heads?
alright alright, you got me. where's #68 then?
Am not sure how time difference with Australia works, but it could have been today their time and yesterday our time, since Ninja is in Australia. This time I really am out of here--got to catch my bus!
Looks like hansolow beat me to it!
Ok I've been out the past couple of hours. So #68 is out there...any leads?
Mick- that is all definitely the glyph from last night. I was up when it came out and was discovered.
Belly- are we supposed to watch JKL again tonite?! Where did that come from?
Anyone else getting really excited that the glyph hunt is almost over?
DON'T WATCH JKL. SORRY FOR THE WRONG INFO. I PULLED A MICK AS WELL.
Just meesin Mick, sux when your wrong cause then everyone jumps up and scrambles, then you just feel like an idiot...
SORRY AGAIN...
This has been a very confusing day for me. I'm still confused about the UK hunt, I thought they were supposed to have the hunt on Wed. and get 2 glyphs. They had an Apollo bar hand out and got 1 glyph!
hereandthere: I with ya! I would hate to think that there will be a 2-week hiatus...
ARGH! Sorry, feeling really frustrated because I have spent all morning reading comments only to find if I had spent just a minute more I could have been in on a glyph hunt and helped clear up some confussion.
Speaking of frustration... 2costa, I completely disagree with you on your comments on "it's not what you know, it's who you know", Ninja and Speaker groupies (WTF?), and people "in the know". The only people in the know as far as I can tell are characters within the game, and they only know their portion of things from what I figure. I really do think you have the wrong end of the stick on this. You have complained about glyph releases suiting non-Americans when I find it completely the opposite: it seems to me most glyphs are released when I have gone to bed (or should have). Sure, there were a bunch of real-world glyphs in Aus, but I think the glyph distribution is up to those in their respective countries (whether that is Speaker, Ninja and TOG or someone that they answer to), and even with those real world glyphs there are people complaining that they can't get to them (me being one of them! But complaining out of frustration, not that I feel hard done by or anything like that). You're complaints about people seeming to have inside information (that is the gist I get from your recent comments) seem unfounded to me also - the leaderboard (if you want to use that as the example of people who get glyphs) is a mix of people from all over the net, so I just don't see what you are basing that opinion on.
Sorry, that dragged on a bit.
I know this comments thread has moved on from a lot of what was in the last one... But I'd just like to say I love the way Ixalon posted TOG's photo! I could go on more about that but... meh.
re the 30% population comment. When Mittelwerk is talking to the people in the video he is talking to those that are there to deal with Sri Lanka. 30% of the population of two villages in Sri Lanka wouldn't make a huge dent in the world's population... they are presenting it as a means of perfecting their virus not as a way of fulfilling the Equation, to my mind at least. However... what if this is then to be repeated on a global scale? What if it is already being done, just in spits and spots... 30% of local populations repeated here and there over time till the optimum global population figure is realised? But at the same time as culling people they are trying to make people live longer... which can't help with population growth... so THF have to, for example, start tribal wars to cull more people to counteract those that are part of The Life Extension program? Then back to the good/bad thing... why kill certain people? Are they targetting places they think they can get away with it, or is there another reason?
ok... going to catch up again and see what I can sniff about the glyph...
The Lost Island...predates the Hanso Foundation by decades, maybe even millinia....
Now with all the DEATH plans Mittlewerks has for the current worlds populations, what possible connection could the Mittlewerk "Make a Death Wish" Foundation have with an ancient Island that predates him and his organization????
hhmmmm.....
Is Mittlewerk the Master.....or the Servant....??
Anyone here??
Guess not...
Ok, so the nap didn't go as planned. Awake now, any leads on the new glyph, or are we still hoping it's on Jimmy Kimmel again?
New glyph? What's the scoop...
anyone have a list of the order of the mittlewerk video clips?i just started organizing them and am having a hard time, lol. thanks
Potter-Check Lostpedia.com under "Sri Lanka Video"...That's what I'm using.
I have not even tried to make any attempt to put any of the last 7 glyphs in order.
just cutting and pasting the codes from TLEC and leaving in my storage.
hereandthere - you ever get a candybar?
cyborg - that IS cool! I've been watching all the bonus footage trying to find stuff like that and I was saving that part for last since it seemed like I could get lost in it forever. Great find!!
Woohoo! Only 3 more to go! (I've been gone all day.)
I was reading the new issue of a science magazine I subscribe to when two pages caught my eye. (Sorry, no glyphs.) First there was an article about food and new ways to add flavoring or keep supplemental nutrition fresh so that less degrades. Here's one paragraph that caught my eye.
"...most progress in this area has been in encapsulating the bacteria [like the bacteria in drinkable yogurt] within spheres of digestible 'biopolymer' ...A large number of labs...are developing biopolymer capsules designed to release their contents in response to different triggers, such as a particular pH or light level ...'You can target particular organs or even cells.'"
Ewww! Nanochocolate is real world!
Then on the following page they had an article on some scientists who are expirimenting with and succeding in connect nuerons with nanowires. "...connected neurons to their silicon nanowires to create a simple circuit that acted as a logic gate, the basic buidling bloxk of computers."
Next step, Data from TNG. I wonder if that's why the Black Smoke seems so smart?
Below that was an article titled "Nanoslaves set to work driving a treadmill" where scientists convinced bacteria to turn a "hamster wheel" to drive a rotary motor.
Yikes!
I just watched Timdorr's sequence on YouTube. I haven't seen the last 10 glyphs or so, but seeing them all together now, that's one cool video!
Night all! Oh and a friendly reminder for all those who got bars over the weekend or today, please sign up on MissMegs blog (apollotrade.blogspot.com) if you have extras to share. She's keeping track of everything again and instructions are on the blog.
Thanks!
Hey guys...I'll start by saying, "I have no idea what you're talking about". Sorry to interject. Just wanted to say that I just got in from the Dallas Apollo giveaway event and had a blast meeting TONS of cool people. I hope to have pictures tomorrow and a full story of our adventures. We ended up getting lots of Apollo Bars to send to MissMegs.
Can't wait to catch up tomorrow. I've got to go spend some time with the fam...
Admin - look forward to the Dallas give-away photos.
Just gittin Back form the Dallas ABC Apollo Candy Preview Shindig Thang at the Granada.
GOT CANDY! Yumm Yumm. (Where is Alvar by the way?)
and a gift bag, contents:
1 blue WFAA chanel 8 Tee Shirt
1 box of New & Inproved Daybreak (don't ask)
1 pack of news 8 Daybreak trading cards
1 block-o-rubber shaped like a TV set
4 Chevy Truck golf tees
1 chanel 8 primetime news schedule
1 2007 Chevy Avalanche spec. sheet
1 Ugly Betty / Men in Trees post card
Any and all of this may be a clue!
Hey, Tot, I'll trade you a Jackie Hyland trading card for a Justin Farmer....
Ok, I have no idea why they gave us local newspeople trading cards, but what the heck. As long as they gave us chocolate. Poisoned chocolate, maybe. All in all, a really fun evening. And that special appearance by JOOP! Wow!
Ok, there was no Joop appearance. A girl can dream, right?
Admin, photos are on the way!
Yeah, We all got met really good. I seen a lot of friendly folk there. TLECers and some others, the good kind.
fysb said:
Hey, Tot, I'll trade you a Jackie Hyland trading card for a Justin Farmer....
I'm a thinkin that them there cards are like Pokeyman. My Jackie can put a powerful lot of hurtin on your Justin. Even with that The Why Guy kicker!
Gosh, all you Dallas people sound like you had a blast! I'm very envious! Hope Santa Monica/Acura turns out as great. Can't wait for some pics!
They made trading cards for your local news team?
Justafan: I haven't posted here much, but I think I have a good theory to answer your question. They broadcast the numbers because the island itself (and the series of stations it contains) is an on-going, live experiment to manipulate the factors the can control the equation. If the factors are changed, the "main system" of the island recomputes the new values and the numbers change! THF "hears" the numbers change on the radio broadcast and knows the DI has succeeded.
What happened to the supposed encryption is still an excellent question. I like the idea that the DI participants got fed up and rigged it to not be encrypted any mor (perhaps as a sort of SOS).
It was great Maven. Just sent pictures to admin.
Dallas people, notice that there was a golden oracle posted....by the chick from ABC!!!! Hmmmm....think someone was rifling through the boxes ahead of time?
About the Gift bag:
One word of CAUTION, don't put the golf tee in your nose!
The Saying Fan is tellin me what to do. Help.
it seems we've given up on #68. but considering we have no clues, i can't say i don't blame us. night everybody.
Hi Guys just catching up on the posts.
It is an interesting question on the question of how to spread the virus. In Rainbow Six they were going to spread a virus by aerosol through the air conditioning at the Olympics so that all the infected athletes would go back to their own countries.
I would say timed releases at international airports would be the best bet. If your really clever the virus could have a really high transmission rate, a long incubation period (2-3 weeks) and although it only kills 30% of the poulation it doesn't mean the other 70% couldn't get it.
Where is everyone - ?
Cool Matt, thanks
I'll see if I can access it from work
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IRC seems to be blocked at work d'oh
Morning one and all...
Hi Guys
I have a bad feeling well just get general information about the numbers. Such as they are the variables for the Valenzetti equation without finding our what each individual number actually
represents.
We also have to bear in mind that the explaination will have to make sense to the non-fan lost viewer, like my parent for instance who watch Lost each week but don't think about it between seasons and to be honest are not even aware of you Hanso are.
are you saying, shakey, that we've gone through all this for nothing?
ha ha
Hi DazzedElf - Mine too :(
Shakey - It's a difficult one the numbers - they have certainly been a Water Cooler issue - I think you are right though - It could be we ARG ers find out a more detailed explaination of the numbers in advanced whilst the TV viewers get either a more basic explaination or have more of the DHARMA/HANSO back story filled in in Season 3.
I wonder if Jack will be shown the Orientation Video from the Sri Lanka video at some point.
Off topic and probably mentioned but...
I was looking at the whereisalvar site, and Korea is not even on the map. I find it hard to believe that there can be such a detailed map, and have a country (well countries, the North is gone too) erased from it completely.
I guess I am not getting an Apollo Bar for sure now!
Don't know if this has been seen before but there have actually been Apollo Bar distributions in Asia.
http://axn-asia.com/promotions/lost-apollo-promotion/
oops: There WILL be Apollo Bar distributions in Asia.
oh and #68 and #69 have been found
68 and 69 have been found
That means one more fragment! Do we get it today?? Or do they wait til tomorrow??
ok one of them is KCQBMLI6
"That is the work to which YOU have committed yourself. Change the core values of the equation and you change the course of destiny."
I agree it's been nice to get the in game stuff and best of all meet all you guys :)
There is of course Penny Widmore to place into the equation we know that we are going to see more of Penny Widmore this Season and we also know that we are going to see more off Island stuff. this could be a route that TPTB use to introduce more about Hanso
KCQBMLI6 goes between rrgyxs and 4rl9y0uxb6y.
Does anyone have a transcript of zr2ji? Can't understand what Mittelwerk says after "And inspite of every effort of the Foundation, "
Cool -
So we we all right about Hanso trying to change the variables in the equation.
zr2ji (wherever it came from - thanks to whoever who found it and the other one)
goes between 44ku2vkq and narvik.
"And in spite of every effort of the Foundation we are gripped in the [????] of those six numbers.
[????] > Theory? Martyrium? can't make it out
How and where were these found?
ah Gavin, 'tyranny', that sounds right
So what blank does eveybody have left open? Mine is between 748l and 354g8
HOW AND WHERE WERE THESE FOUND???????
WOuld like to know in order to make a new concise thread....
I have no idea how the TWM bits go toghether now!
Thrasher, 69 was found in London by elpaw from what I understand. it was like mowed into a footy field or something. 68 was another chop and scatter, I know two bits were on Ninja's blog, no idea how to find the other two parts but anyway...
Peaceandnamaste,
I'm very much in your camp as regards theories. Nicely put.
The thing is: what is destiny? Can destiny be changed? If it can be changed it's not destiny, is it? Is it mankind's destiny to destroy itself or is it it's destiny to think it's going to destroy itself, come up with the equation and do everything to prevent it destroying itself?
It's a conundrum, much like time travel (change the past and eradicate your grandparents which means you were never born and never time-traveled and never changed the past....).
Perhaps the Dharma Initiative never had a chance, no matter what weird and wonderful (or horrible) stuff they came up with in their research. But that would also mean that TWM efforts are equally futile. What makes him think that he can change destiny given that the greatest minds of the century were not able to do so in so many years even with unlimited funding and support (every scientist's dream)? What is his real agenda?
We got some answers and a ******* load full of new questions.
I wonder what #70 will bring...
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