Clue #137 - DJ Dan Update & thehansofoundation.org Update
Everyone take note that DJ Dan's next live broadcast has been changed from the morning of the 23rd to the morning of the 22nd. Head over to his podcast page for full details!Thanks to Tresbien, FastenYourSeatbelts, Ryandrumz, and WickedM for emailing us about this important change.
TheHansoFoundation.org Update
Dixee noticed on the ARG Monitor that the Hanso Foundation website was updated today. Go to that site and move your mouse to the area just under the link to Mittlewerk's video and you'll see your cursor change. Click and press Control-A to select all the text. You will see "Pdeo eo jkp ukqn bwqhp. Wo ukq kjya odkqpaz wp pda pkl kb ukqn hqjco, sa'ra whh ckp 'xhkkz kj kqn dwjzo.' E fqop dkla iu bneajz eo naopejc awou."
Copy and paste it into this translator. Set the "Length of codewords to try" to 2 and click on "Analyze ciphertext". The resulting text will be "This is not your fault. As you once shouted at the top of your lungs, we've all got 'blood on our hands.' I just hope my friend is resting easy. Where are you? I'll need you to meet me in Norway." It appears we have a reply to Rachel from Malik.
Thanks to Dixee, Twinkle, James, Chas, and Dennis for emailing us about this latest message.




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Hey hey all....I made, thanks for the heads up ryandrumz
Repost from previous comments...
ampfofu said...
I wonder how many people got an apollo bar, and just ate it thinking it was nothing
Well...long story short...I know someone that is not playing the game, and got a Golden Orcale at the giveaway. They put the bar in the freezer, THEN asked me what the deal with the bars are, and what they "win".
I explained everything to them. They realized that the bar was valuable, so they were going to put it on eBay, but OOOPS, they "accidentally" rubbed off the code.
If it wasn't so sad I would laugh.
No prob dixxee, WOW Belly, kinda of late. Hope your joking...LOL
Belly, if you were trying to cheat, then it serves you right...HAHAHA
Dennis - that is very sad!! We all would have liked to have gotten a G.O. Very sad indeed....
lol... yeah... just jokin' :) I try not to cheat.
Anyonw=e else not very happy about the change?
ADMINS, COOL PIC ON FRONT PAGE...I like how you guys put that together whoever did it...
ryan: Right on, brotha!
****Season 3 spoiler***
I think actually one of the things I'm looking forward to most about season 3 is more Desmond! Stupid, I know, with all the mysteries to solve. Guess I'm a sucker for tragic romatic figures. But he probably won't be around until after the first 6 episodes and the hiatus!
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A lot of people are upset about the change.. but it did not help or hurt me.. Friday my hubby is having surgery scheduled about the timeframe of the podcast. Saturday is our 16th anniversary... either way I will have to listen to it at a later date... You can still email your questions..
I am hoping sharon comes back as a zombie or something
:'(<----this is me crying because I'm going to miss DJ Dan...just saying.
This is a terrible disaster.
Because one whinging guy couldn't listen to it live on the origional day, now loads of us have to miss it due to being at work.
How is that fair?
Well no way I'm calling a sicky and I hope this fails because of that.
Caving in to pressure. Unless Javi really is Jewish. Anyone know?
Even then I'm still angry as hell. I mean how many of us are at work at that time on a friday? It's 4pm to me. I will be working till 6pm.
look at what people are doing.
http://cgi.ebay.com/LOST-APOLLO-CANDY-BAR-Sealed-and-in-Perfect-Condition_W0QQitemZ110031372145QQihZ001QQcategoryZ201QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I find Dennis' theories from the previous thread very interesting. Not crazy at all.
Valenzetti was a mathematical genius but never published. Perhaps he did fool the world. With him dead, the equation unpublished and thus not peer-reviewed, the UN Security Council may have buried it because it would have caused widespread panic. Hanso however decided to "pay attention" as he says, and poured his fortunes into bettering humanity and saving the world. Something went seriously wrong though - the incident; the missing scientists; Hanso himself missing; TWM at the helm probably making very wrong decisions...
Neither Hanso nor TWM are mathematicians or even scientists. They cannot prove the equation wrong and may be doing all they are doing in the blind faith that Enzo was right.
It'd be something else if AH was on Kimmel on Wednesday and explained the whole thing! If it happens I hope someone will put i on youtube for all us non-US folks.
He has also changed the time from 8am PST to 7am pst, might wanna add that in.
Fenris, I'm with you man. This really sux for me. Now I need to listen during work as well, and it's hard when your boss is around 24/7.
We should find the names of those whiners in the other comments sections and say thanks to them....I respect the religious holidays and all, but to go and riun this thing for whole load of other people just isn't fair.
hey people long time no post. had my graduation last week. how is everybody all good i hope.
and yeah people ebaying apollo bars is gay. why pay for a free candy bar.
and regarding dj dans live podcast, guys dj dan put up his last podcast on the website after it played live, i missed the first one and probably will miss this one, but guys chill out its not the end of the world u will be able to hear it. admittitadly it sucks if ur ar work and it would be better for it to on a weekend. but u will hear it at then end of the day.
DJ Dan didn't hardly get to the e-mails in his last podcast. He was "interrupted" by THF. This time he doesn't even ask for them. :-(
ampfofu - lots of people are putting Apollo on Ebay
It is very sad, people out to make a buck... and others are buying.. that is the saddest part!
You can't please everyone, that's for sure. I'll still be listening to it live, and I hope there are an abundance of people from TLEC listening and calling in too.
apollo bars started selling within hours of the first uk giveaway. i think the first one went for about 50 pounds.
ryan: thanks, re-props on front page pic...
fenris: yeah, dude... does suck.. I knew you wouldn't be happy about that. Hey, were you the one that told me about that UK Belly Commercial?
Fenris said...
How is that fair?
TLE took off a Monday because it was a UK *bank* holiday. How could they not take off Rosh Hoshana (sp?). How would we feel if the did something important on Christmas or Easter?
Yeah it's unfortunate timing for all involved. I bet TPTB aren't too happy either because it will decrease listeners. But really, taking the broadcast off Rosh Hoshanah was the right thing to do.
That would have been the coolest Christmas/Easter ever....J/K
I wish I has a couple of hundred bars to "flood" the eBay market with $1.00 "buy it now with free shipping" bars, so people wouldn't take advantage of the fans that don't live near a giveaway.
It would be cool to just have one appolo bar, Even cooler to attend one of those events, but i work 14 hours a day and have 1 hour drive to and from work and work 6 days a week, so i just get to read all about you guys having fun. The best part is my tivo, i watch everything on sunday while everyone is at church. HA HA
Holidays suck. The way I look at it. this is an extension of lost the tv show, and tv shows continue to air on holidays. So what if it is a holiday, wouldnt it be better for the Jews to record it if they were going to do religious stuff???
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Well, then I'll put in a request that a two hour long special detailing the exact layout of the DHARMA island as well as explaning the smoke monster and the Others come out on Super Bowl Sunday at 6 pm. ;-)
did anyone lisen to the dj dan 9/11 podcast
twinkle: fine by me, i have two tivo's!
Hey, great twinkle. I would love that. I can watch football and dj dan at the same time.
DJ Dan is also a real life techno DJ that has nothing to do with this ARG...Sorry indigo
Here is his link: http://www.djdan.com/
He is the one going to SF...
ox: too funny! We're waiting because Tivo requires a subscription service. We'd like to turn our receiver into an entire media center with the ability to capture digital TV without an additional subscription. (Yeah, like that's gonna happen for another 10 years!)
sunloc: DJ Dan's lat podcast was 8/11. That was the last live one.
indigo: I wonder if that's our DJ Dan or the real DJ?
There was a podcast on 9/11? Where!?!
Twinkle,
What's the status on the Apollo bars trading? How many people still need bars?
there is no 9/11 podcast, there is an 8/11 podcast which was the live one last month.
I'm really surprised that anything going on on a holiday is a problem at all. There are always big tv specials on christmas day and easter, so I can't really understand why it would be a problem. Saying that though, i'm not really sure what Rosh Hoshanah (spelling?) involves, so I could just be an idiot. Ho hum.
Thanks for clearing that up, Ryan.
Apologies - wasn't aware there were two of him.
Removing the inaccurate post now....
twinkle: that can be done now, if you have attained a high enough level of geekosity. people are basically building media center computers themselves. i can't wait for the tivo series 3's to come out! lost recorded in hd! at the very least it had better be out by da supa bowl! gotta see my bears pound on some afc schlep in high def!
I bet those terrorists on 9/11 could control the passengers on the plane and at the same time fly it into a building, If they can do that then we can at least have a holiday and listen to dj dan. It seems simple now. Or how about this, Maybe that is why the firemen did notsave the buildings and people at the same time, because they were listening to dj dan on their ipods while trying to do their job. HMM M just a thought
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lol... yeah DJ Dan is a an actual DJ for parties and clubs and whatnot.... spins some kinda jazzy music... looks like a good party tho... wish I could go...
Fenris: are you the one that told me about that Reebok UK Advert?
Dennis said:
What's the status on the Apollo bars trading? How many people still need bars?
MissMegs has that information. We're planning on doing some serial passing too (not to be confused with mailing Captain Crunch) so more than one person will recieve the same bar.
Based on my slightly informed information, she got over 350 requests for bars and we maybe have been offered 75?
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ox: I know, but we've got teh HD revolution coming and we're saving up for the right hd big screen so we'll wait to do all of it at once probably.
Da Bears! Question is: When will they do a new Shuffle?
ampfofu - er, what?
Belly.. just sent you an email - there is an update on the THF.org site... new code to decifer....
ampfofu: what? If you are trying to be funny, you picked a sore subject.
dixxee: Where?
so do you lot think that dj dan is going to drop some trance during the podcast?
Tivo can't record HD yet? Never would have thought it, I always recorded in HD with my DVR. I love my cable company. :)
dixee,
I'm lurking...just checked...THF.org. Didn't see what you're talking about.
?
I found this on the monitor:
http://www.thehansofoundation.org/hanso.swf
do a show all, at the bottom you will see this:
Pdeo eo jkp ukqn bwqhp. Wo ukq kjya odkqpaz wp pda pkl kb ukqn hqjco,
sa'ra whh ckp "xhkkz kj kqn dwjzo." E fqop dkla iu bneajz eo naopejc awou.
I thought my fan was going buggy, but it turns out THF.org is hissing at me!
I sent the mail to the email - it came from my work email address...
benito, nope. some of the direct tv/tivo boxes can, but then you're locked into direct tv. and i prefer the tivo interface to the charter cable one (my other option here) i know some other cable companies also allow hd recording, but i think they're all using basically the same boxes.
email = gmail... sorry, a little excited to have found something...
Dixxee: Good catch! Hmmm....It doesn't show that for me.
Thanks, dennis, for the link. Actually, I really like your theory. Gotta go.
dixee,
I now see what you're talking about. Are we 100% that is new. I'm trying to remember if we've seen that before. It looks like you've made a great find! I suck at translating. Any ideas?
Hey guys
According to the LOST site monitor, http://www.thehansofoundation.org/hanso.swf has been edited..
If you click the text it opens the Mittelwerk advert in a new window. It's the one with Mittelwerk saying "Spirited debate, it's the corner stone of the Hanso Foundation". I know the video isn't new, but could you always view it in this way? I'd like to know because if not it means that something else has been edited or added.. :)
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what does that mean? and why is the site making noises?
The whole message (there was more at the end):
Pdeo eo jkp ukqn bwqhp. Wo ukq kjya odkqpaz wp pda pkl kb ukqn hqjco,
sa'ra whh ckp "xhkkz kj kqn dwjzo." E fqop dkla iu bneajz eo naopejc awou.
Sdana wna ukq? E'hh jaaz ukq pk iaap ia ej Jknswu.
oops!! Sorry, didn't see dixxee had got there first! Well spotted dixxee :)
Edit: The site has always made that news..
Dixxee found this though;
Pdeo eo jkp ukqn bwqhp. Wo ukq kjya odkqpaz wp pda pkl kb ukqn hqjco,
sa'ra whh ckp "xhkkz kj kqn dwjzo." E fqop dkla iu bneajz eo naopejc awou.
Admin - I am looking at it but will probably not be the best for translating.. just glad to have found something..
pretty sure this is new, was checking the site monitor out of boredom -
Site Updated
Hanso Foundation hanso.swf 09-12-2006 10:53
I believe it translates to this:
This is not your fault. As you once shouted at the top of your lungs,
we've all got "blood on our hands." I just hope my friend is resting easy.
Where are you? I'll need you to meet me in Norway.
I used this site: http://smurfoncrack.com/pygenere/pygenere.php
And a code length of 2....
what is it? is it in some sort of code?
head hurts.. not good at cracking codes... usually leave that to the code crackers.....
rmofr - that makes sense for a translation...sounds like Malik is messaging back to Rachel. Way to go!
crap, i had it but too late again.
I just looked up the Ceaser cipher, which is our usual rotate by 13, and stubmled across the Vigenère cipher
this is not your fault. as you once shouted at the top of your lungs,
we've all got "blood on our hands." i just hope my friend is resting easy.
where are you? i'll need you to meet me in norway.
--googled a cypher program
it's a rot-5 cypher. please let this arg get closer to act 1 again.
Man, you guys are so smart.
Congrats to PandN, Dixxee, Rmofr...
Well, just another message, guess that's all for today...LOL
it's addressed like the last ones from rb- to m- were. also, the sites are in a different genre, if you will and the cypher is different. i think something besides a rb to malik conversation is going on.
I think I am gonna faint! I can't believe I found something!!
dixie-
good find.
So what...Is she going to that Narvik building in Norway? That's where Alvar is...Still staring out that darn window.
Great job on translating it, RMofR. Norway, eh?
good job dixxee! and, not that i'm competitive or anything, but did tlec beat all the other forums to this one?
Belly - Yes! That was me. :)
Just went to ITE.com, and YES...TLEC was first to find.
RIGHT ON TLEC!!!
DANG IT! I go away for 20 minutes....
oxillini said...
good job dixxee! and, not that i'm competitive or anything, but did tlec beat all the other forums to this one?
There are other forums?
That is a good possibility OX... I have not checked the others out yet... still catching my breath.....LOL
Awww.. :(
I was in the middle of working it out by hand.. lol
Well, I don't know what the message means.. but it looks like we may be getting little messages like this pretty frequently until the 'big reveal' from WIA.com. Good work guys :)lq
Admin--Thing that dixee found at the bottom... just guessing, but it looks like a Caesar code to me, I'll give it a shot, but I'm not sure.
I have another rant. Sorry guys. Just really annoyed by this. Twinkle, this is kinda in response to your comment, but please don't take me having a rant personally, I went off on a tangent and I am talking mostly to either myself or TPTB anyway.
RE: The previous one being moved - That was why they moved it? Sheesh. They really do plan this game around the idea that everyone plays it almost exclusively FROM WORK or that simply we are all unememployable bums. Lol, nice respect there guys. I would LOVE to have a live podcast on a bank holiday. But hey, maybe that's just me.
Actually I'd love a live podcast on Easter or Christmas day that'd be great. Sure I understand some people do have a problem, but what I don't get is they apparently have either decided this game is played by more Jews (with or without jobs) then it is non-jews with jobs. Either that or they just consider a Jew in more important then a non-jew that has a job. Whatever the case I find it disrespectful to myself and not very fair.
I also don't think it could be justified by the way they made the same mistake before. Just because there is a precidence in injustice doesn't mean that it's right that they should repeat said injustice. Besides I'd say it is different this time, given the time of the podcasts before I don't see how the change really inconvenienced the majority of people. Wasn't it like 11pm in the US? See, I know the current change basically means many in the US will be at the start of their working day and the UK at the end of it. Correct me if I'm wrong though, was anyone majourly messed up by the change last time around?
Sadly, like I missed the UK glyph hunt because of it being on a week day while I was at work, I will also miss the podcast.
Anyway, I am fed up with it. To dangle a good time, weekend live podcast in front of me, when I would be up, awake, alert and relaxed and more able to come up with something interesting to phone in with (if indeed they put me on again anyway, I wouldn't mind either way but I certainly would try) and the SNATCH it away from me and put it at a time when I can't even listen live and will miss all the excitment....
Well, to be honest I think I may cancel ALL the remixes now on principle. I just don't care anymore. :(
I'm going for a sleep. Maybe I'll change my mind once I'm rested but right now I'm tired, angry and still have my hang over from this morning. Not a good state to get this kind of news.
Pandora it's been translated already.
It is a Caesar cypher (not sure of the rotation) - or a Viegnere cipher with keyword length 1, which is equivalent.
First mention I found on Speaker's blog:
tlec have found something on the hanso site, go to http://www.thehansofoundation.org/hanso.swf and then show all to see a code at the bottom of the screen
Posted by: jason_nufc04 | September 12, 2006 at 11:26 AM
Ugh! I'm having internet issue or else blogger is being screwy. The first time I tried to upload the translation it didn't work. Good job, rmofr! You probably got it before me anyway.
I googled a cypher program. It's a basic substitution with the letters just shifted over 22 letters so an A becomes an O. It's quite startling to have gobbledygook suddenly become understandable with the click of a button!
dazzed: Really? I didn't see it in the comments... cool, what's it say?
Alternative One - If you are there . . let me know what you will be wearing tonight and I'll say hi! I'm wearing my work clothes, so I'll be all slick in my purple dress shirt and slacks . . if you wear something noticeable I'll be able to say hi! Although, I won't be able to stay for any real amount of time, as I have to do a bunch of stuff tonight . . . write me back!
And K.Barrick - I think you should still go . . as should Wendyzski!
WOOHOO!
Good Job DIXXEE and RMOFR!
dixxee! woohoo, that is really awesome. congrats on your find!
Pandora, It said...
"This is not your fault. As you once shouted at the top of your lungs, we've all got "blood on our hands." I just hope my friend is resting easy.Where are you? I'll need you to meet me in Norway."
I found it in the comments here.
dixxee: good job. Maybe a stupid question, but what 'monitor' do you use to see any changes on the sites?
Thanks everyone.. man.. I think I need a drink...haha!
Site Monitor
Thanks dazzed, I searched comments and didn't see it... as usual, it's solved as soon as I realize there's something to solve. At least I realized what sort of key to use this time, LOL.
Thanks for the translation....
So I take it this means that we will see Rachel active on her blog again soon?
Thanks dixxee.
Anytime ib4uc!!!!
It would be nice if rachel would be active on her blog but she hasn't even put a coded message on her blog yet, which seems odd, because it would be easier to post to her own blog then hacking email for speaker, ninja and other girl, and then hacking the splash page for thf.org.
So far she's made it a point to avoid her blog, i think it would be stupid to start using it again at this juncture when she's been claiming it's so insecure.
dixxee: during this ARG, I used to think how do some of these people know to check the sites to see if there is anything new? Well, now I know.
Ugh! I keep getting page not found and so lose my posts! Oh well. Time for a break.
Good job everybody! Those of you who knew the technical stuff about the code, thanks. You're amazing! And good job Dixxee for finding it!
Hopefully this one will go through...
I was wondering if the "blood on our hands" in quotes was a clue. I mean, I realize it is a figure of speech, and that could explain the quotes also, it just seemed unnecessary because it was obviously metaphorical.
pandora - that is a quote persephone used in Act 1 of the ARG in one of her THF hacks.
Pandora - "blood on our hands" Racael yelld this at ComiCon to the Lost Panel...
dixxee & ryan: Yeah, I realize that, I was just wondering if they were repeating it for emphasis because of a reason. Probably not, and I'm reading too much into it, but you never know. When she said "43 things" in her blog, no one realized that clue until a week and a half later when she reemphasized.
Oh yeah.. there too.. thanks ryan
So guys, who do you think this message is from? I assume it's from Malek, but it doesn't say.. He's probably referring to the death of da Zylva, right?
wow - you guys are fast. I wanted to do it by hand and just finished it - only to find that romfr got it two seconds after it was mentioned. I need a decoder ring or something.
Jee, 5 minutes after I finally left my desk for a while. Well done dixee and rmofr!
So Malek is sure they killed poor de Zylva...
Bad, bad TWM goons.
Bet you that Vigenere algorhythm is gonna be used at some stage: The Java encryption/decryption program is called
Java Vigenere!
http://it.geocities.com/teutoburgo/java/javi/JaVi.html
dslerator just signed on to aim lets see if he'll answer me.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO now its on FRIDAY!!!! I HAVE SKOOL THAT DAY!!! crap.........
I'm a little disappointed by the backlash against Jews in these comments. It seems from where I sit that despite all of the sensitivity training we receive in school, from our culture and on the job, some groups continue to be targeted. I like to believe that these comments don't represent how most of you feel.
On the Sabbath and holidays, observant Jews are not allowed to use electrical devices, including computers.
The fact that the first podcast was on a Friday night -- the Jewish Sabbath -- and that the second podcast was scheduled for one of the holiest days of the Jewish calendar, a day observed as a holiday by both observant and non-observant Jews alike looked like a pattern, a conspiracy, if you will.
I applaud ABC and TPTB for their sensitivity and responsiveness. Obviously, they were able to break out from under the thumb of that Austrian Thomas Werner Mittlewerk -- where were his parents and grandparents during WWII and what were they doing exactly?
Now no one asked to inconvenience others. There are a lot of days and times that don't fall on holidays or Sabbaths, or during the workday.
And that's all I have to say on the subject . . .
ah ha the javi code, very nice! it also works out to a caesar cypher with an "offset" of 5.
re: the message. i don't think we can assume this is necessarily fro rachel to malek as it is not addressed the way previous messages were. no rb- or m- at the beginning. also it was not posted on a site in the same "genre" (i.e. offical blogs for a country) i think that it is addressed to rachel but from whom? it would have to be a thf insider, right?
Let's hope that Rachel doesn't try to save money by purchasing a 14 day advance ticket to Oslo.
iobiseeingyou just signed in as well
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BadgerKyle said...
Alternative One - If you are there . . let me know what you will be wearing tonight and I'll say hi! I'm wearing my work clothes, so I'll be all slick in my purple dress shirt and slacks . . if you wear something noticeable I'll be able to say hi! Although, I won't be able to stay for any real amount of time, as I have to do a bunch of stuff tonight . . . write me back!
Black jeans and tan polo shirt...
See you there!
The Alternative One
uh oh, good find peaceandnamaste,
now me also know who Mel is ("Mel does it better") he he
the ARG monitor shows that something at thehansofoundation.org was changed today
dfizz: Dixxee found some hidden stuff and posted at 1:13
dfizz: yup, this was found on the splash page (at the bottom when you "select all")
Pdeo eo jkp ukqn bwqhp. Wo ukq kjya odkqpaz wp pda pkl kb ukqn hqjco,
sa'ra whh ckp "xhkkz kj kqn dwjzo." E fqop dkla iu bneajz eo naopejc awou.
that translates to:
This is not your fault. As you once shouted at the top of your lungs, we've all got "blood on our hands." I just hope my friend is resting easy.Where are you? I'll need you to meet me in Norway.
peaceandnamaste: some of us knew about that, but chose to keep others in the dark in the spirit of the game.... i'd prefer to let speaker be speaker and ninja be ninja, you know?
admin: you still here? you got this?
dfizz: read up... if you go to THF and position your mouse just under the Mittlewerk video link, it will become an "I bar" cursor... click and press Control-A to see the change...
dfizz,
see above, new message from (presumably) Malek to (presumably) Rachel
awesome on the message. It's so nice to hear actual conversation from the ARG characters... "living" "breathing" characters.
Podcast changed to a Friday morning (for the US people)? Don't have class then so I guess that's cool...
i still think it's from someone to rachel. i don't think it's malik.
belly0fdesire, my bad. I didn't think about that before posting, I guess I was just a little hyped.. :P
My apologies to anyone who might be really PO'ed at me for that last post..
Yeah!!! Dixxee!!!!!!!!
I understand the excitement of finding something!!!!!!
peaceandnamaste, can you delete that last post, then?
peaceandnamaste: no worries and good detective work! :) it's not in violation of any of the rules, but is alright if I take it out? :)
fenris: ...email me... i got somethin' stupid you might get a kick out of...
oh yeah, did the 'does it better' audio byte from Sublymonal ever get worked out? (when you enter 'mel' in the box at sublymonal.com you hear a female's oice saying "Does it better. Does it better."
Alot of us speculated about it but it was never used as a part of a clue or glyph hunt.
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How did we get to http://smurfoncrack.com/pygenere/index.php ?... how did whoever went there first know to go there first?
i think it has to be from someone pretty hack savvy. wouldn't thf be tougher to hack after they locked it down? beatnik from rot? mel0drama?
**without reading all the post** I just wanna quickly say....
Make sure everyone notes the TIME change on djdan as well...NOT just the date.
Was 8AM PST....NOW 7AM PST.
I deleted it :)
Hey now I feel like i'm one of the cool people cause I know who Speaker is.. *does a cool person dance* LOL :P
Oooooh, admins updated the last post to include the THF.org message from Malek..
Edit: Aww I emailed them too but when I hit send I realised I forgot to put 'from PeaceAndNamaste', so I didn't get an honourable mention.. :(
lol :P
belly, it can be done by hand. i took the second word and figured it could only be so many words. turns out the second word is "is" the first thing i tried. from there just wrote down the offset alphabet on a piece of paper and away you go. got it about five minutes after it was posted on here. grrrr.
Belly,
I got there by looking up different types of ciphers on Wikipedia, and found the Viegnere cipher. So I Googled around looking for some one who had already written code to decipher it, and played until it worked. I guess it also a ROT-5 or ROT-4 code as well.
oxillini: ah... heck yeah... i knew all those logic puzzles as a kid would pay off. I'm going to try doing it that way.
I think the post is from Malek. It seems to be a direct response to Rachel's "I'm sorry" and the poster also appears to talk about de Sylva as "my friend".
I started figuring it out from the E for I then went from there. I was halfway through it when someone figured the whole thing out.
BTW - K.Barrick - your friends at aap were speaking of you this morning. They miss you.
team lena: yeah, friday at 8:00 I can deal with... Friday at 7:00 I can't :/... maybe the broadcast will still be happenin' when I get into work at 8:30... hopefully. And you're going to have to get up a lot earlier than you're used to as well, huh?
kbarrik: did you go to the event to see if there might still be candybars? did you get a candybar from anyone?
PeaceAndNamaste: this is the first chance today I have had to catch up on posts, and read replies. Just wanted to say "Thanks a Million" for your reply about the Lost redshirts in the previous thread. I am still reading , but your links have answered some of the unknowns, and I was impressed that I had Neil Frogurt correct :)
badger and alternative...
I'm not going to go - I'm really disappointed by the lack of apollo bars, and since I've lived in the city and not owned a car for 20 years, spending a couple of hours being yammered at about a product I'm not interested in soungs like a lame evening.
Though we should totally get together for the season premiere of LOST or something.
Belly - The Chicago event is after work today . . . I'll post when I get home and let you all know if it was a total bust . . . I'm thinking that maybe they took it off the site because it is going to be bigger than just a candy bar . . . maybe I open up the bag and there is a memo from Mittelwerk to someone . . . or maybe Rachel will be IN THE BAG! AHHH!
Or I'm just a sucker and going to an event where nothing will happen.
this is strange the tlec blog jumps from 136 to 138 anyone know why belly thraser admin
isn't the most recent message translated using a Caesar, and not a Vignere, cipher?
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
I WAS FINALLY GOING TO HEAR A PODCAST LIVE AND THEYCHANGED THE DATE !!!!!!!!!!!!!
AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
SO ANGRY.......could......just....
EXPLODE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Namaste
lol
Brett I hear ya!! WHY OH WHY would they change it to a Friday morning, when most people are working or at school??? It was going to be my Saturday morning treat...but now I can't listen live!!! boo DJ DAN!!!
Poor DJDan, he'll be damned if he does and he'll be damned if he doesn't.
lol well I think he'll be a lot LESS damned with the Sat. morning podcast. At least, judging by the response it's gotten so far here.
I don't mind DJ Dan changing the podcast from a religious holiday. But why pick a time and day when so many people are at work or school?
Since I have no speakers at work I won't be listening live. And DJ Dan is my favorite part of the game.
*sigh*
fitz: it's because I'm stupid and can't count... thanks for pointing that out and sorry about that.
HI THIS IS DJ DAN I'LL BE BROADCASTING LIVE AT 6PM PACIFIC ON THURSDAY SEPTEMBER 21*
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*on short wave radio available within a 25 mile radius of Topeka, Kansas
Meh.
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I think TPTB made the right decision to move the DJ Dan live podcast. I try to keep the game in persepctive. I'm not Jewish but I can appreciate the importance of a holy day. Friday morning is not convenient for me either. Neither was 2 am. Are they having issues getting the studio? Maybe that's why they aren't selecting reasonable times.
Hi Guys
Back for the second time today.
You know I am sure the reason for the change in the date of the podcast is something we havn't figured, a technical reason or maybe DJ Dan (ie Javi) suddenly remebered it was his wedding anniversary or something. I don't think TPTB intentionally put it on a Jewish Holiday, nor do I think they moved it because of the Holiday. It is quite possible they were not aware of the date. I consider myself pretty educated when it comes to other cultures but I was not aware of the relevence of the23rd.
Both Lost and TLE are global and the great thing is that we have a real mix of people and cultures, however because of that you can't stop that for a relious holiday. Think About it, get a Calander and start filling in all the major religious holidays - Chrisitan, Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, Sikh, Buddist, Shinto all with different traditions within them. Then what about all the minor faiths Mormons, Zoastrians, Rastafarians, Pagans like me... TLE would play about one day a year.
Yes OK the odd date, maybe 9/11 is pretty sensitive for Americans of all cultures and creeds so something involving an aircrash may be inappropriate on that day, beyond that it is up to us all to make our own choices of what is important and what is not. I would thought on a scale of 1 to 100 a religious holiday may score pretty high and DJ Dan pretty low for most people but what is an important event for one person is just another day for another. Im not for example going to miss by Kids Birthday for anything, Lost or otherwise but I don't expect anyone to pander to me and change stuff to suit me, I have to chose my priorities.
I would hate to see this forum drop into a religious slagging match, to a lot of you your religion is pretty damn important I'm sure whilst I'm sure others of you are happily agnostic or athiest. Me I'm really into interfaith dialogue but this ain't the place. I get scared too when people start bringing up the Nazis in conversations like this. I have friends who survived Nazi concentration camps and others whose parents or grandparents served in the third reich. We have to move on guys and not blame people today for the errors of their forbearers.
ANYWAY - I'll stop ranting now, I just care a lot for this place and I'd like to see it stay the way it is Lost and light banter.
Wow, this is getting ugly!
i was just going to write to say what happened to clue #137? It seems to be MIA.
It's really sad to see such hateful messages here... or anywhere for that matter. But over a game? Really sad.
So to sum up the coded messages of the past few days....
Saturday: RB - Yes.
Sunday: M - Where's deZylva?
Monday: RB - Dead, Sorry.
Tuesday: M - Meet me in Norway.
And to sum up the coded messages for the upcoming days until DJ Dan(I took the liberty of decoding for you...)
Wednesday: RB - Cool.
Thursday: M - Ok, cool.
Friday: RB - Where should we meet?
Saturday: M - How about Oslo Starbucks?
Sunday: RB - Cool.
Monday: M - Cool.
Tuesday: RB - Should I wear my fake wig?
Wednesday: M - Cool.
Thursday: RB - LOL.
Friday: M - Call DJ Dan. He likes you.
Saturday: RB - Shut up. ROTFLMAO.
There's more, but I don't want to spoil it too much.
- here's hoping for less exposition and more plot! -
Just to add my two pence - I think it was wrong to move the podcast, no disrespect to the religeous folk, but far more people will be at work Friday, than will be celebrating [?] Rosh Hashanah on Saturday.
But hey it's done now and I'm sure they aint gonna move it again, so let's just get on with it.
FYSB--Now that's funny
how about EVERYONE just chills their beans a bit and deals with it? Is a podcast really this important??
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Thanks boulderlovincat. I realized how often I'd been hitting f5 for the past week and not really getting much payoff. I'm hoping TPTB will give us more than this slow parade of love notes. But in the meantime, why not make a little fun of it?
I was one of those lucky enough to hear DJ Dan Live last time--I loved the conspiracy feel of staying up til midnight to catch the podcast!
I am bummed that I will miss it, but like a lot of people did with the last podcast, I will come home and download it somewhere on the net and have a good smile over it.
And life will go on.
I think FYSB joke above is too funny to miss--go back up and read it if you haven't!
Thanks Boyo81 and adedmat you've both managed to say what I was trying to say but far more succinctly. It is only a game based on a TV show. It would be nice to hear DJ Dan live but in the big Scale of things - who cares.
I'm sure most of our friends and family think were all a bit sad anyway spending all our time discussing a game based on a TV show with folk on the internet (or is that just my wife that thinks that ;) )
Anyway It's my birthday in less than 2 hours so I'm not going to let anything get me down.
:) ;) :p :) ;) :p :) ;) :p :) ;) :p :) ;) :p
believe, my girlfriend just looks at me with genuine pity when i talk bout this game
Happy Birthday Dark Angel--I celebrated mine on the 10th.
And did anyone notice that nuclear war has (so far) not started today?
do we have players in norway who can get to the oslo starbucks?
I guess we all don't have to move to Texas now!
(or am I the only one who remembers that video now?)
boulderlovincat: yup, we can (almost) cross off another day on our no nuclear war yet calendar. this month's pinup is awesome. condi rice talkin to kofi annan about iran. hot stuff!
i wonder if starbucks is as ridiculously expensive over there too
Thanks Boulderlovincat
Yes I was very relieved to see that we survived the end of the world - I see they arrested some folk in Kenya over that.
So when's the next end of the world due, is that Dec 23rd 2012 or is there another one before then?
:P
FYSB: hilarious! thanks for summing it all up for us.
Everyone Else: This isn't the place to express your discontent with those of differing beliefs. Please try to keep the mood as light as possible. This is supposed to be a game and is supposed to be fun. Not at all worth the amount of anger some of you are expressing. Before you type something like that again, please take a deep breath and think about what you are about to type. Offensive posts will just be deleted and your words will fall upon deaf eyes. Thank you.
where can you see lions? only in kenya, go to kenya they've got lions
you may laugh Oxillini but I have actually got a George W Bush Calender (well it's the Jumbled Jargon form George Calender) - no Condi on it but it does have Arnie and George though ( I guess there not friends now though)
belly: i like the deaf eyes comment. is that like a blind tongue?
dark angel: a couple years ago i had a desk calendar of bush's verbal missteps. some good stuff in there. i believe it was called "they misunderestimated me!"
boyo81 said...
where can you see lions? only in kenya, go to kenya they've got lions
Aaargh my eldest sonis obsessed with that.
http://www.weebls-stuff.com/toons/kenya/
for the uninitiated
forget norway
boyo81, not only is the Oslo Starbucks ridiculously expensive, you can only get lowfat reindeer milk in your lattes and you have to pay for your beverages in penguin pelts. it's a tough life near the artic circle. there are no fancy electric steam irons, just the old fashioned kind, so i hope rachel has taken advantage of the soloflex in the underground bunker.
well then I will not be particpating or listening to the podcast on the 22nd. have to work
mmmm raindeer milk latte. Christmassy.
btw, posted my comment about not being able to listen or participate in the podcast before I had read so many people's post that had their panties in a wad over the move. I am disapointed in the move, yes. I had planned on making pancakes and listening in while eating and wearing my P.J.'s while chatting on IRC and yahoo. It was going to be fun.
But I am not mad about it.
Don't forget the cruchy seal and herring topping!
(No offence to any Norwegian TLECers)
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