Clue #139 - RachelBlake.com, StopHanso.RachelBlake.com, & WhereisAlvar.com Updates
There is a new post on RachelBlake.com. Converting the binary to text gives hex, which then converts to what appears to be a reply to Rachel from Malik saying, "R -- I respect your caution. Suppose it's warranted, after all you've come through. I can't remember it exactly, but I think when we were in the stairwell in Paris, you muted the mic as I said "Because he wanted me to help you, and I can't question a man who would launch the Mental Health Appeal... to save a loved one." Say what you will about him now, his heart was once in the right place."
There is also a new post on stophanso.rachelblake.com. The octal decodes to "IiY'nCmN" which can be rearranged to read "I'm in NYC."
Rachel has posted another encrypted message at whereisalvar.com. See the picture posted by user "rachel@whereisalvar.com". Because of all the excellent decoding/encoding work in the comments, the message has been translated to say, "You lived in 3 different apartments. Be waiting outside your second at 7:45 PM. I'm sending a car. Hope you remember the brand of iron you hit me with, because that's the code."
Thanks to makomk, Vashti87, Donn, Kenneth, Main, Mark, and Bassclef42 for emailing us this information.
462 Comments:
Hello, Is AnyBody Out There....
Second!
yes! second btw! :)
Well done guys :)
thinbluemime.. just nod if you can hear me.. :P
What if the Mental Health Appeal is Mittelwerk's pet project? That would certainly make things a lot more interesting.
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How did rissy5959 get "I'm in NY?"
sorry, what's an octal (something with 8 but what exactly)?
http://nickciske.com/tools/octal.php
^^ Really useful site :)
I've been on the old Hanso site looking for info on the MHA...I miss the mystique of that soothing music.
Thanks peaceandnamaste.
peaceandnamaste: the reason I get to these messages so fast is that I spend far too much time at my PC, and I've set it up to automatically check for updates and IM me when it spots one.
makomk,
Thanks a ton for emailing us so quickly. I love rolling out of bed and seeing new clue emails! :)
Admin, it's not info that only he could know, but only he could know that he said this to Rachel in the stairwell in Paris. Apparantly she muted the mic as he said it, so nobody else in the world would have heard him say it.. :)
I wonder why she's in New York and why needed to tell us..
makomk, how exactly did you do that? lol
Any one seeing rachels site kinda messed up?
http://stophanso.rachelblake.com/2006/09/111151131047156103155116056.html
Here is what I am seeing...Just me?
http://lostdude.com/lostpics/stophanso.rachelblake.com_2006-09-14A_2.jpg
aaggh - top 15 - I was busy working this out and posting on the last thread.
thinbluemime, I noticed that in the comments of her page too, but I think it's been like that for a while.. Not sure how or why it's happening, though.. :S
hey dark angel, makomk is pretty fast eh :P
peaceandnamaste,
yeah. Did you see how I deleted my post? I realized how stupid my question was. I haven't had my coffee yet.
geeez! Can't they use email?! I mean really... so now she's Alvars daughter. This is becoming stupid...
stefan, I agree that if this was real they could just use email but.. I think this is just TPTB's way of giving us little bits of information while tying up a few loose ends and preparing the scene for the next act of TLE.. So it's really not that bad, is it? :P
Anything planned in NYC gamewise soon, like an apollo bar giveaway or anything
Good job makomk!
Good morning, all -
I just wanted to post this from the last thread - did anyone else see this last night? Was it new, or had it been seen before?
"ABC showed a preview of the new season tonight. I just watched the drama preview at 9:30 Eastern time. At the end, just before 10, there was a segment on Lost.
***spoiler***
They showed a clip from season 3 with Sawyer in a cage. He pushes a button marked with a knife and fork and gets a warning message. A kid in a different cage (sounded like Sawyer called him Kyle) warns him not to do that, but he pushes it again and is blasted back.
They also played the same spot that I've seen on Youtube, although the earlier spots say "65 days ago. they fell from the sky" and the one tonight said "67 days ago.""
I watched all the spots that Dixee posted yesterday, and hadn't seen the scene with Sawyer before. I'm also curious as to why they changed the number of days.
Yes Credit to Makomk - Super fast - I would like to say I was slow because I am at work but I'm on my lunch break ;)
Top 25!
AHHH such bull!
I live in NY! but im not there now....
*tear*
hey melissa lossa
It could just be that TPTB realised they'd messed up the dates and stuff, and quickly changed it before too many people noticed and added it to the Big Long List Of Mess Ups..
I'm interested in seeing that scene with Sawyer, though.. I think we can assume, from what we've seen in the promos so far, that either The Others have their own hatch, an underwater facility, 'the barracks', or some off-island location (could be what Fenry called 'Home'). We know that in the beginning of Season3 Kate, Jack and Sawyer (I think..) are 'held captive under mysterious circumstances' by the Others, so it goes without saying that they're taken to one of these places..
Melissa: I saw the previews for S3 also. Didn't catch or pay attention to the days thing though. What the heck's up with the cage and who is that boy? Just another mystery...
they changed number of days probably because of the day it aired
Melissa_Lossa
curious.... 65 vs 67
I will keep eye open for new Lost promos, if the "day count" changes again, it may be a clue of some sort
also, could be a hint that time is passing slowly on the island compared to us, meaning after 2 hours of our time, they have experience a day of time, idunno, just spitting out ideas
I didn't see anyone else comment on it, but I think the cage in the promo looked like something you'd train an animal in. Like a polar bear...
p&n -
That's kind of what I figured about the dates as well. I can't imagine it has any other meaning.
***spoiler***
In the scene with Sawyer, he is in a cage in the jungle. He sees the knife and fork button, and underneath it is some kind of chute. He looks around the cell and sees a big red pedal, which he steps on; nothing happens. He then sees a red lever, which he pushes; again, nothing happens. He then pushes the knife and fork button and a voice says "warning." Somewhere in the middle of this, there's a quick shot of the kid, who's in another cell and is wearing a t-shirt and jeans or khakis. He looks maybe 17 or 18. I assumed he was one of the kidnapped tailies. Sawyer pushes the button again and gets the same "warning." The kid says "I wouldn't do that," or something to that affect. Sawyer answers "when I want your advice, (Kyle?), I'll ask for it." He pushes the button again and is blown back across the cell. The scene ends with Sawyer saying "son of a b----."
Hopefully, someone puts it up on youtube. I can't be the only one who saw it!
cubeberg: I thought the same thing, only I was thinking maybe a gorilla or ape (Joop?).
cubeberg - I thought the same thing. With the buttons and levers, it definately had a zoo or animal testing feel to it.
A polar bear type feel?
does anyone know if those previews aired on sunday during the Lost "Lost Survival Guide"
dark angel - could be a polar bear, or another type of animal. That pedal on the floor was pretty big, so it could have easily been for a large animal like that. However, when I saw the knife and fork button, with the chute underneath, I immediately assumed (as did Sawyer, I'm sure) that it was for food. I don't know if an animal would associate utensils with food. Curious.
Morning all. I have to agree that it seemed like a cage you'd see in a zoo, but I'm not entirely sure that animals would get the knife and fork. Why not just have a red button?
Also, thank goodness for this site, otherwise I'd be completely "lost" on all this binary business.
Haha, posted my thoughts about a minute too late Melissa_lossa. You put it much more eloquently tho.
Melissa_Lossa-I Just found it on youtube, and "67" days ago....is exactly as you saw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1GocGVIkb4
Just because an animal doesn't eat food with utensils doesn't mean they can't learn to associate the picture with food.
true cube, but why get them to associate the picture in the first place? they wouldn't associate the picture with food until pushing the button had worked a few times ... **** SPOILER ****
which it appears it doesn't as it says "warning" and then shocks you (or something). Whoever or whatever is in that cageis meant to think food will come from pushing that button.
thinbluemime said...
Any one seeing rachels site kinda messed up? Here is what I am seeing...Just me?
Are you using Firefox? It's OK for me in IE, but messed up in FireFox.
Found the vid here;
http://media.putfile.com/LOST-Season-3-SNEAK-PEAK
Yeah, after watching that again, it definately looks like a cage for an animal. And I think Sawyer says Carl, not Kyle.
dennis...I am using Opera, so that may be the problem, Thanks!
**************spoiler*****************
Melissa_Lossa said... (sounded like Sawyer called him Kyle)
Sounds like he said "Carl" to me...
Very interesting clip! Thanks
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Mmn Very interesting - watched it without sound but those buttons /paddles / pedals do all look bear-sized.
The electric shock might be part of some Milgram-esque psychology experiment.
No wonder the poor bears always seem so pissed off. They never know whether they are going to get
Bear Food (seal puree or porridge I guess) or a nasty shock.
dark angel -
I agree about the Milgram connection. That's the first thing I thought of after watching.
Thinking about it I don't know what would me worse for Sawyer, an electric shock or a batch of seal puree - mmmn nice!
Just in case this wasn't posted (it's probably old hat already) but here's the sneak peak that was aired last night on ABC
****************Spoiler***********
http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/2006/09/abc-sneak-peak-video.html
oh I see people have been talking about it
Since nothing works and the knife and fork shock, speculation...they are trained to not ask for anything and not trust anyone or anything. (Self discipline and total independence)
good thought, ular98, and it goes along with the cages being out in the middle of the jungle, isolated
although, the people or animals in the two cells could see each other... interesting
Could it be that the two animals/prisoners have to work together to get a reward. If they both press their buttons together they are rewarded. If they act indepndently they are punished.
o.k. so Hanso launched the mental health appeal to save RB, his stupid daughter.
Obviously he failed.
noblelawyer said... o.k. so Hanso launched the mental health appeal to save RB, his stupid daughter. Obviously he failed.
LSHNEMB!!!!
Don't be a playa hater :)
Repost from last thread:
Finding a changed site immediately and solving the puzzles inside of 10 minutes is a bit dull.
I guess it's inevitable (I'm hoping) that soon they will use new websites that the site monitor program doesn't know about.
Long time, no post
++++++++SPOILER++++++++++++++++++++
I think the most interesting part of the promos I have seen is the exchange between Michael and henry Gale where Henry says "we are the good guys". What is "good"?
leelee - I'm really interested in that as well, although it's actually from the season 2 finale, I believe. I also find it interesting that the promo says something about finding out that we don't really know what we think we know. My guess is The Others will turn out to not be so bad afterall - in a sense, they are the "good" guys.
Dark Angel - I like that theory about them having to work together - kind of fits into the whole Dharma idea.
Morning, everyone!
Why does Malek need to know RB is in NY to meet her in Norway?
****Spoiler***
Assuming the cage was part of the Dharma Initiative and assuming that DI started out honest like has been suggested most recently by Malek, then I think that 1) the cage was meant for an animal, 2)the buttons don't do anything because they are no longer activated and the original experiment is no longer active, 3) the cage has been rewired to serve the purposes of the Others, and 4) this is another example of how the Hanso Foundation and DI, while starting out on the right foot, has gone totally wrong.
About the time difference, it could be explained by a 2 day gap between the end of season 2 and the start of season 3, meaning we left the kiddos on the pier and the next time we see them it is two days later.
a lot of the material from the promos is from season 2 though.
Jeez - I just got up already, and missed all the fun!
*mumbles*
*********UK spoiler********
that was from the end of season 2 before Michael boated away with Walt. We have long been speculationg on what the other's have meant by "Good ones" and "good guys" through out season 2
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Ugh! Let's see if I can get it right this time!
*****Spoilers****
Dark Angel: Yeah, the work together theory is good too.
Also about the good guys, I'm reminded about a show somewhere where there was an island with soliders on it fighting WWII because they had lost all communication with the outside world. Those soldiers would have said they were the "good guys" too, but they were acting on outdated information and fighting an irrelevant cause.
I think something similar may be happening here. The Others started out as the good guys, scientists of the Dharma Initiative. In the mean time, their actions have changed as they've been left to fend for themselves. They could be "bad guys" in their actions but in their minds still consider themselves to be good guys because they started out that way.
Twinkle said...
*****Spoilers****
Dark Angel: Yeah, the work together theory is good too.
I knew specialising in Animal Behaviour at Uni. would be useful one day!
I wonder if Sawyer is being held at the Zoological Research Station?
about the cage in the season preview -
Those are not bear size paddles.
they are Orangatang and Gorilla sized paddles. And Gorillas and sometimes orangatangs can learn meaning of symbols (like the knife and fork) although I don't know why they would use utensils for apes.
The fact that there are utensils on the button and a verbal warning (can't hear at work but from prevous posts here seems to be a verbal warning) It would seem that it was made specifically for humans.
Would not be at all surprised if was always intended for humans but made very much like an animal cage to dehumanize the prisoners.
It sounds sort of like an RPG...put the block on that lever, while shooting an arrow into this one and when the light comes on hit the last one. LOL
Thta's a good way of looking at it noble ...
So the quote attached to the MHP, specifically, "...those who can not shine for themselves." Makes me think that the MHA was not started to help Rachel. I am leaning toward the idea that the "loved one" referred to by Malek was perhaps Rachel's mother.
Oh and agreed Dennis...when I saw the Lost sneak peek last night I heard Carl.
I know we have long discussed the definition of "good", however, in light of ARC and all, could be that we have some different forms of good. Mittlework good (Valenzetti and all), RB good (fight the good fight good), and island folk good. And maybe that is why it is be reintroduced in the promos.
I have been trying to figure out why all of you think this is a cage for animals. Yes, clearly, it originally was. But look the next cage over has the boy in it. and the button with the fork and knife is clearly for humans and also the verbal warning. I think you all are looking into it to much.
ular98 said...
It sounds sort of like an RPG...put the block on that lever, while shooting an arrow into this one and when the light comes on hit the last one. LOL
Joking aside you might be close to the truth - it may take a co-ordinated effort from both prisoners to activate the food delivery.
I still reackon these a polar bear cages though.
noblelawyer said...
they are Orangatang and Gorilla sized paddles. And Gorillas and sometimes orangatangs can learn meaning of symbols (like the knife and fork) although I don't know why they would use utensils for apes.
Is this where Joop was trained?
I think that even if they don't need the fork & knife symbol for the animals in the cage, it might be there to remind the the trainer -- as in, "what was that button for...?"
Dark Angel said: I wonder if Sawyer is being held at the Zoological Research Station?
*****Spoilers****
That's what makes the most sense to me. IMHO the utensils and voice warning could be modifications made by the others for human experiements. But I believe that the DI started out clean and honest and has changed, so we're not seeing the cages in their original configuration. We can't neccessarily take the way the cages are now for the way they have always been since the start of the DI. Same with the Others.
"Because he wanted me to help you, and I can't question a man who would launch the Mental Health Appeal... TO SAVE A LOVED ONE."
Maybe he was referring to Rachel's mother.
Maybe RB's Mom was/became a mentally challenged person. Referring to her, maybe RB was really born French and her Mommy is still on the island. ;)
Ange said...
I am leaning toward the idea that the "loved one" referred to by Malek was perhaps Rachel's mother.
Yeah, me too.
leelee: Good point. That could be the conflict TPTB are trying to set up.
twinkle - I agree. Whatever the original purpose/experiment was, it has certainly been altered.
And back to the game - I definately think that it was Rachel's mother that the MHA was supposed to help. Could be the age old story - Alvar's a bad, gun running dude until he falls in love with a sweet lady (although apparently a mentally unstable lady) and decides to change his ways.
I think alvar hanzo is secretly a woman.
The symbols on the button could be for the researchers, or for example to make it clear in a video observing the bears of what the button was for. Imagine film that was going out to researchers who didn't sahre a common language. It would be clear what the button was for even if you didn't understand the dialogue, or if there was no dialogue.
I think these cages weere originally used for the poor polar bears but are now being used purely as safe place to put a very angry (and therefore potentially dangerous) Sawyer. I wonder if the other guy - Carl(?) is one of the Talies
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Alex: So then he's Rachel's mother? LOL!
The casting call for the Alvar character mentioned something about a love interest I think. Does anyone have the link to those casting calls? They're interesting to refer to as the story progresses.
Boy, it's nice to have something new to discuss and theorize about!
Melissa_Lossa said...
I definately think that it was Rachel's mother that the MHA was supposed to help. Could be the age old story - Alvar's a bad, gun running dude until he falls in love with a sweet lady (although apparently a mentally unstable lady) and decides to change his ways.
I agree. But maybe she's not so much "mentally unstable", but more like Alzheimer's disease.
dennis, Opera has that function built in :)
Now if it would only display Rachels site correctly :(.......... LOL
GOOD MORNING TLEC!!!
Man cool new promo vid, can't wait for S3.
I hate when I wake up and get on and the clue has been found for the day...Oh well. Hopefully we'll get more today.
leelee - I agree that figuring out how the Others define "good" is crucial to the story of the show.
A psycopath may have a definition of good that is contrary to what is known as good in civil society.
And many many atrocities, in fact just about all atrocities committed by us have been done in the name of what is good.
The Nazis exterminated the Jews for the good of the ariane race.
The Inquisition was done for the good of those they killed and tortured.
The Crusades were done to exterminate and/or convert the muslims for their own good and the good of christianity
The institution of slavery in thte United STates was done for the good of the blacks they enslaved because they were too stupid to take care of themselves.
See how as humans we have a way of rationalizing the horrible things we do to one another? We rationalize and say things we do are for the good of those we do the things to, when really it is purely selfish reasons.
I think the dharma initiative failed because while it tried to figure out how to improve the human in race and condition, it ended up just boiling the people down to their most elemental and brutal origins.
thats what i was thinking noble. a bad guy never thinks of himself as a bad guy. it all depends on point of view.
Twinkle said...
Boy, it's nice to have something new to discuss and theorize about!
I agree twinkle (and hi:))...it's been a long time since I've felt like posting:)
So the wording used in Malekl's message was interesting as well. He said, "...to SAVE a loved one." I wonder if Rachel's mother (if it is indeed her that he is talking about) committed suicide.
*I also included a neurological disease...but it was already posted by the time I finished writing this....things are quick today and it is GOOD!
good morning class. new notes from our lovebirds, huh?
Now all together class....
"Good Moning Mr. Oxillini"
Good Moning Mr. Oxillini
Hmmm... good point, dennis, although I'm kind of hoping for a Benny & Joon revelation. :) Alvar created the MHA because his true love was bonkers.
I know that sounds very un-PC, but bonkers is such a fun word! I'm really a very nice girl, I promise. :)
Morning Mr Oxi :D
Uhh my assignment? My umm.. dog ate it....
exerpt from TV guide
SPOILERS
the writers tone down the mythology and up the action-adventure. the premiere focuses on jack, kate and sawyer who are being held seperately in varying degrees of discomfort. likewise, desmond, eko and locke initially are "not together."
You're right, bonkers is an excellent word. We should use it more often.. :)
SPOILER (even for US viewers)******************************************
desmond is alice.
DAMN! I MEANT TO SAY HES ALIVE. i just cought that.
Okay whats up with the link tht says 57 on stophanso.rb.com ? like loads of pictures some static and some flicking to others with numbers and whatnot(ps i lost my laptop for 2 weeks and im catching up on stuff so go easy on me :p)
Sean,
FYI, You can delete a post by clicking the little trash can next to your bad post...
maybe he's alice too...
I prefer Desmond is Alice
Alice, Alice who the f*** is Alice
(Sorry those not from the UK may not get that)
yeah, but i worked so hard on that post.
picsel said...
Okay whats up with the link tht says 57 on stophanso.rb.com ?
That's an old clue. That's where we got Glyph #57
anyone else caught on that perhaps the loved one was perhaps liddy/libby? (sorry i just thought i had to bring up an old argument
maybe he goes further down the rabbit hole!
and it is funny,
Good morning...sneaking out of a meeting to check TLEC, man, I need an intervention.
Here's a quick thought/question:
When Malik was in the stairwell with Rachel, he said something to the effect of "I heard your mother died. Is she the one who told you?"
If Rachel's mom was the one that was crazy, I'm not sure she would be sharing details on Alvar and the Mental Health Initiative...at least not with any credibility.
Now the theory I like is that RACHEL is crazy and her mom is the one who told her she was nuts before she died. Alvar and Mom put together the MHI to help Rachel.
I know, I know, it's way out there, but seriously, doesn't that help explain those ridiculous candy bars? ;>)
picsel, that was part of the glyph hunt. :)
Yeah Rachel is crazy... CRAZY LIKE A FOX!!
I swear if this game ends with "surprise! Rachels' just, oh let's say bonkers," I am going to be really upset.
Anyone else notice the binary on whereisalvar.com? It seems like it was posted about 10 minutes ago or so.
It could be Liddy/Libby and that's why she was in the Mental Institute but I have a feel that they'll keep this to TLE characters at the moment.
if only i knew where in NY rachel is, i could meet up with her.
Maybe LOST and The Lost Experience are all just a group hallucination and we are the ones who are bonkers! Hmm...
yes fastenyourseatbelts i like the theory and i really do but im still gunna take the piss out of it.... yes and really we're all figments of ther crazy woman's mind, and really at the end of TLE she is going to wak eup and realise it was all a dream and really none of this happened - on the plus side it would mean we would never have actually spent ages searching for glyphs
kvonhard: where at? wia doesn't load right on my computer. can someone cut and paste it?
dark angel - steal y post why dont you :p
or maybe its the opposite. maybe this is all real and we think its a game.
I can see the end now....
Rachel wakes up in her bed in Kansas.
"Oh I had the strangest dream and you were all there, Thomas you were a cowardly meglomaniac and Uncle Alvar you were there too and Malik you were there but you were an Iron Man......"
Maybe it's just be thats bonkers....
can someone check out the binary on whereisalvar that kvonhard was talking about?
It's one of the pictures - right on the front page. And the poster name is Rachel@whereisalvar.com. It's the first one on the left. I don't know how to copy and paste it b/c every time I click on it, it reduces it back to the smaller version. I'm a computer moron.
on it....
how can locke and eko not be together? they were standing next to one another when whenever it was went off, went off.
re: binary on where is alvar...
it's a picture someone named rachel@whereisalvar.com. not cut and pastable. can someone put it up on photobucket?
i dont think you can copy it. you have to go the old school way, write it all down and submit it into the decoder.
im working on it now, going to take a while tho
screen cap anyone?
stupid work computer. it's almost as if they don't want me on wia.com from work. now that's bonkers!
***spoiler***
noblelawyer - wasn't Locke still locked in the computer room? and Eko was outside - he was taken out by the first blast
I'm guessing they're going to have to dig each other out
maybe we can break up and each can decipher parts. it would be quicker.
it would be a lot faster than having one person decipher the whole thing.
I wish I could help...but a)I'm on a conference call now and b)it would take more time to explain to me how to decode it than anything else. I hope this is a clue!
i'll work on a part if i can get one!
good spot kvonhard, looks like we've got the lead on this one too!
should we each do one line, or something?
Right on more action....Go team go!!!
rachel@whereisalvar.com posted a huge set of binary as her "apollo bar picture" today at 10:41. The ones at the top all seem to be numbers but I do see some "longer" ones that are letters. The H is O (I wonder if anyone will get that).
i can do the top 2 rows. the first row is very short.
good morning everyone...
like i said yesterday, i'm gunna be out for the next few days... just wanted to say good morning and wish everyone luck in their clue solving... hopefully I won't miss out on too much.... have fun!
word... and namaste
Now I'm all impatient to know what it says! Gosh this game is stressful...
anyone know a good binary translator?
5th line converts to....
dennis, i like:
http://www.theskull.com/javascript/ascii-binary.html
fastenyourseatbelts, I like your "Rachel is Crazy" theory too. It reminded me of that creepy image of the girl standing in a hospital gown. That was back when we were still getting Hanso Site hacks from Persephone and it seemed extraneous at the time but if I remember correctly the girl had long dark hair (ala RB) and now with the MHA connections, it makes some sense.
WHERE IS ALVAR FROM RACHEL
I got a cap for those of you that are having problems. Any luck decoding yet? Sorry I'm coming in late.
Hi Guys
Try http://nickciske.com/tools/binary.php
I make the first two lines
596
974746F3A6
but i should really recheck
"E686hnjll6"
which is nothing.
http://www.paulschou.com/tools/xlate/ Many people use this binary translator.
I've done about half of it, which translates to what appears to be just gibberish, random symbols and letters..
Blogger won't let me post it here though, because alot of the symbols aren't allowed..
This might not be real - the last line translates to:
696822E00
Maybe someone smarter than I can figure it out.
so....
line 1 - 596
line 2 - 974746F3A6
Line 3 -
Line 4 -
Line 5 - E686hnjll6
oh greta and now i have to start all over again.. ahhhhh
Edit: the first section is
596974746F3A6465746F746
but i cant post the rest because of the symbols
it think this is just someone having a good time.
someone wanting to see if people will waste there time figuring it out.
But hey, what have we got to do anyway?
i tried to decipher the top 2 lines and got giberish.
maybe it has to be done all at once? i dont know how binary works.
Sorry ...
Bah.
596974746F3A6 is what i got.
noblelawyer,
I think they "screen" every photo for approval before posting on wia.com. I don't see how someone could get a pic on there without an Apollo bar is they weren't Rachel.
im trying to use a text recognition program to capture the text, should make it alot easier to decode...
well is this another case of where we have to do a binary conversion to text and then put that into another conversion as well?
Nah, too much noise in the pic for the software to pick out the text.. obviously not very sophisticated software.. lol
http://i9.tinypic.com/3zjmfdk.jpg
Rachel en NY?
i think each group of numbers is a letter. i put letters into the decoder and i got:
a=01100001
b=01100010
c=01100011
and so on.
I am wondering if this is a code within a code - IE - Convert from Binary to Hex and then Hex to ASCII.
The Other question is how do we read it I am assuming from left to right but would it make more sense going down each column?
maybe were not supposed to put the spaces.
Butting in to say good morning while you guys work on the new WIA code! I'm in awe of all your skills to work on this. And am very grateful, too. Decoding is way above me! ...
Just adding my thoughts that I agree with most of you that the loved one that Alvar started MHP for could be Rachel's mom...mom could have either had depression or alzheimer's.
Re the promo scene of Sawyer last night: Definitely a animal cage. Probably a lot of experimenting done there to condition the animals to hit that button for food, but only at certain times.
i assumed it was binary to hex to ascii, but that's giving gibberish. plus that means noble's line 5 is gibberish, because you can't have an n in hex
No, I am pretty sure the Binary converts into Hex and the HEX into Ascii - I tried it on the first few and came up with Yitto?
If i get time I will try and convert a chunk but it is not easy at work!
sean: spaces won't matter.
so far, the last two lines donw in binary to hex to ascii are:
7nprrih.?
which is also crap. it is definitely binary to hex and probably to ascii, but then what, i though maybe rot-something, but that's screwed because of the number and the symbols
MMn good point no N in Hex - Maybe if we decode it all from Binary first the next step will become clearer
(sigh)
http://whereisalvar.com/images/bars/ac4705a0aebbf633ff0604f630ba615f.jpg is the actual original image - like all the images uploaded to the site.
each little eight bit chunk makes one letter there's only sixteen combinations in there. (should be anyway) this is feeling fake to me.
Here's what I get:
01011001 01101001 01110100 01110100 01101111 00111010 01100100 01100101 01110100 01101111 01110100 01100001 01101111 01100110 01101101 01101001 01110101 00110100 01101001 01111001 01101000 01101110 01101000 01110100 01110101 01100110 01100101 01101110 01110010 00110101 01101110 01101111 01100101 01111001 00101100 00100111 01101100 01100101 01101110 01100111 01110011 01010000 01100111 01110101 01100010 01101111 01100010 01110011 01101001 01110010 01110100 01101111 01100101 01001101 01100001 01110010 01110010 01110101 01100101 01110101 01110110 01100101 01110011 01110101 01100011 00101110 01100011 01100101 01100001 01101000 01100011 01101000 01100101 01101110 00101110 01110100 01101111 01001001 01100001 01101101 01101110 01101001 01100001 01100101 01100100 01110100 01000010 01110011 01101110 00100111 01110010 01100101 01100100 01110100 01110101 01100011 01101001 01100001 01100101 01101001 01100101 01101101 00101110 01101101 01101111 01101101 00110110 11110110 11100111 00000111 01110110 01000110 00010111 00110100 10000110 00100110 01100110 01010110 01010110 01000011 00110110 00010110 00010110 01010111 01000110 01010110 11110110 01010110 10010111 01110111 01000110 01010110 01000110 00100110 10010111 10010011 01110110 11100111 00000111 00100111 00100110 10010110 10000010 11100000 00000000
But when I convert it to text, I get gibberish...any suggestions?
Just stopping by.
A BIG thanks to those of you working on the code.
I really don't have time to transcribe and convert it while at work right now.
Good luck to you!!
-DC
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There must be a clue somewhere as to how to decode this but where that's the question
I've put in the last 4 lines and gotten gibberish for text and the following hex:
36 46 36 35 36 39 37 37 37 34 36 35 36 34 37 32 36 39 37 39 33 37 36 42 9b 98 1b 99 1b 99 1b 1c 9b 1c 19 22 98 18 00
maybe we should try octal?
nvm. tried it. didnt work.
sean: it can't be octal, the letters throw that off.
i figured. but i didnt know a thing about any of these codes until we started this search.
If anyone needs it. The direct link to the WIA picture is..
http://www.whereisalvar.com/images/bars/ac4705a0aebbf633ff0604f630ba615f.jpg
finally...
00110101 00111001 00110110
00111001 00110111 00110100 00110111 00110100 00110110 01000110 00110011 01000001 00110110
00110100 00110110 00110101 00110111 00110100 00110110 01000110 00110111 00110100 00110110
00110001 00110110 01000110 00110110 00110110 00110110 01000100 00110110 00111001 00110111
00110101 00110011 00110100 00110110 00111001 00110111 00111001 00110110 00111000 00110110
01000101 00110110 00111000 00110111 00110100 00110111 00110101 00110110 00110110 00110110
00110101 00110110 01000101 00110111 00110010 00110011 00110101 00110110 01000101 00110110
01000110 00110110 00110101 00110111 00111001 00110010 01000011 00110010 00110111 00110110
01000011 00110110 00110101 00110110 01000101 00110110 00110111 00110111 00110011 00110101
00110000 00110110 00110111 00110111 00110101 00110110 00110010 00110110 01000110 00110110
00110010 00110111 00110011 00110110 00111001 00110111 00110010 00110111 00110100 00110110
01000110 00110110 00110101 00110100 01000100 00110110 00110001 00110111 00110010 00110111
00110010 00110111 00110101 00110110 00110101 00110111 00110100 00110111 00110110 00110110
00110101 00110111 00110011 00110111 00110101 00110110 00110011 00110010 010000101 00110110
00110011 00110110 00110101 00110110 00110001 00110110 00111000 00110110 00110011 00110110
00111000 00110110 00110101 00110110 01000101 00110010 01000101 00110111 00110100 00110110
01000110 00110100 00111001 00110110 00110001 00110110 01000100 00110110 01000101 00110110
00111001 00110110 00110001 00110110 00110101 00110110 00110100 00110111 00110100 00110100
00110010 00110111 00110011 00110110 01000101 00110010 00110111 00110111 00110010 00110110
00110101 00110110 00110100 00110111 00110100 00110111 00110101 00110110 00110011 00110110
00111001 00110110 00110001 00110110 00110101 00110110 00111001 00110110 00110100 00110110
01000100 00110010 01000101 00110110 01000100 00110110 01000110 00110110 01000100
00110111 00110011 00110110 01000110 00110110 01000101 00110111 00110000 00110111 00110111
00110110 00110100 00110110 00110001 00110111 00110011 00110100 00111000 00110110 00110010
00110110 00110110 00110110 00110101 00110110 00110101 00110110 00110100 00110011 00110011
00110110 00110001 00110110 00110001 00110110 00110101 00110111 00110100 00110110 001101001
00110110 01000110 00110110 00110101 00110110 00111001 00110111 00110111 00110111 00110100
00110110 00110101 00110110 00110100 00110111 00110010 00110110 00111001 00110111 00111001
00110011 00110111 00110110 01000101 00110111 00110000 00110111 00110010 00110111 00110010
00110110 00111001 00110110 00111000 00110010 01000101 00110000 00110000
Reverse it maybe, bottom to top, right to left, then decode?
last four lines also translate as:
dec/char : 54 70 54 53 54 57 55 55 55 52 54 53 54 52 55 50 54 57 55 57 51 55 54 66 155 152 27 153 27 153 27 28 155 28 25 34 152 24 0
and as base64 : NkY2NTY5Nzc3NDY1NjQ3MjY5NzkzNzZCm5gbmRuZGxybHBkimBgA
and as text: 6F656977746564726979376B plus a bunch of boxes that blogger won't allow to post
tried reversing the binary, then to hex. no dice, last two chunks come up as ??, not a beginning of a word for sure
could this
111151131047156103155116056
found here
http://stophanso.rachelblake.com/2006/09/111151131047156103155116056.html
Have a tie in with the pic codes from whereisalvar ?
I only know haw to input these things i the one translator I have. I have no idea where to go or what to do from there.
I too only started learning about this stuff due to this game, so will leave it to smarter, more accomplished people.
for all this work, it better not end up saying
I love you, Malik!!
XOXOXO Rachel!
If you go from Binary to Hex to Ascii you get
Yitto:detotaofmiu4iyhnhtufenr5noey,'lengsPgubobsirtoeMarruetvesuc.ceahchen.toIamniaedtBsn'r
It's either a ceasar cipher or an anagram
LoL Sean
that would be an impossible anagram
ive gotten "yitto" a few times when i deciphered (tried to decipher) a few different codes.
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