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wow... the old hanso site is changed! Good morning
Top 10 ?
What that means??!!!
Looks like the are setting this up for a sequel.
Reminds me of the end of Flash Gordon (the 1980 movie).
TVM = Ming the Merciless.
The entire Flash Gordon Soundtrack is now looping in my head.
Time for lunch
be back in an hour
WAIT....WHAT!!!!!! Also, awesome!
Kools
Hey Bold:)...tricks is good, and also for kids not rabbits! Come to chat sometime would ya!
Wow! Reminds me of the way the game was when it first started. Too cool.
OMG! Mittelverk is still a threat! Get the Apollo bars ready and let's get him!
(I actually think this is kind o cool.)
Sweet, reminds me of Act 1, too.
excellent,
ME too Minnesota - perhaps will be cocntinued next summer, since there is still a war waging
Mmn The Lost experience - ie the first battle is over but the war is just beginning.
Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few. (Prolonged cheers.)
All hearts go out to the TLErs, whose brilliant actions we see with our own eyes day after day but we must never forget that all the time, hour after hour, month after month, our TLECers travel far into the web, find their targets in the darkness by the highest geeky skill, aim their mice, often under the heaviest confusion, often at serious loss, with deliberate, careful precision, and inflict shattering blows upon the whole of the technical and war-making structure of Hanso power. (Cheers.)
After Churchill
I smell a sequel!!!
Good morning losties!!!
I just listened to the podcast, saw the RB video, and checked out the lastest update!! AWESOME!!!
I think that Mitts is not gone, we have not seen the last of him!!!
Morning Thrasher,
Custmx1 the letters are the logos for the different projects; LEP - Life Extension Project etc
Chixylix - sorry that's a very old clue - it was originally a flash slideshow with lots of images
good morning everyone! so they set up a sequel. alvar vs. mittelwerk in a cage match next summer! i hope they dole out a couple more loose end ties up until the season premiere.
Maybe it'll be a celebrity deathmatch ;)
Hi Designermama
I think the podcast Thrasher is referring to is the MP3 of the DJDAN podcast under clue #143. The TLEC podcast won't be until next weekend I guess as the deadline for audio clips is Thursday.
dark angel - know i have the flash gordon song in my head.
Klytus: Most effective, Your Majesty. Will you destroy this Earth?
The Emperor Ming: Later. I like to play with things a while before annihilation.
de de de de de de de de de de de
Flash
A- ah
- I could go on all day
I think I'll have to put the DVD on tonight :)
Nice! I am a drum 'n' bass fan and the group Hive uses that sample at the beginning of one of his songs but never knew what it was from. I've got to go rent Flash Gordon.
Morning all. This latest development excited me. I'm so glad that that boring video wasn't the end of TLE. And maybe it's just because it's on the hanso site, but the new letter with the hidden link really reminds me of the first phase. Very exciting. Looking forward to seeing everyone in TLE 2: The search for more money. :)
Ah Classic movie theunrealcity - produced by Dino Delaurentis who produced Barbarella - very over the top and a stunning soundtrack by Queen
definately worth watching with a few beers
Woohoo! Epilogue! So exciting! So now we can infer that Alvar is no longer being held captive and will be in charge of the new Hanso Foundation. I bet he'll hire Rachel to work along side him and they'll be doing the "making up for lost time as father and daughter" thing now. Mittlework will be underground doing his nefarious pony-tailed Dr. Evil thing. The question is was he more a threat when he was part of a semi-public organization or now that he's underground?
I totally didn't see Alvar being freed and restarting the Hanso Foundation back on its noble purposes with Rachel at his side. Maybe they'll even let Joop have a quiet retirement? Anyway, bumps aside, I'm very happy with this ending.
I'm interested in which side in this fight Peter Thompson is goin to fall. He obviously is attracted to the Alvar side of things in terms of helping humanity, and has questions about TWM's morality. On the other hand, he has a pesonal debt to Mittelwerk for curing his cancer.
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Maybe TVM will set up a secret base on a tropical Island with a bunch of henchmen, secret underground hatches oh and say a defence system and ... oh wait a minute that sounds familiar....
Good question, engineer!
Linklane, I agree. I thought Alvar in Rachel's video was quite striking! *blushes* My husband is just starting to go a little gray. I can't wait!
I'm a little sad that season three is suppose to have less mythology. I would have liked to see more of a connection with TLE or "Reality" as DJ Dan calls it (which I thought sucked by the way). It seems as if they want to keep the two almost totally seperate, which annoys me.
But seriously, could the DJ Dan podcast have given us any less info or entertainment? Rachel finally had nothing to hide and still didn't give us anything. Thought that was dumb.
engineer: but peter doesn't have to pay back his debt to twm if big alvar will protect him, right?
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Well Linklane he is at least 80-100 years old so whatever he looks pretty darn good
Thanks, twinkle.
The writers for The Lost Experience, just like Lost, have to remember that it's character that really drives the story and keeps people coming back.
And the PT character is a really interesting one, given his sordid past, moral questioning, and vocal similarities to DJ Dan!
ox: Well, I have a feeling that even if Alvar is willing to go to bat for PT, he is still going to have a hard time winning Rachel over to his side, after she spent all summer digging up the dirt on him that she shared with us.
Could be a terrific story...
Totally vering off topic but Peter Thompson got me thinking about DJ Dan and DJ Dan got me thinking about about Donuts and Donuts made me think Homer Simpsons and I thought Isn't about time we had a Lost Simpsons episode.
Flight 815 out of Springfield crashing on the Lost Island. Ralph Wiggum being eaten by a polar bear, Homer eating the entire Dharma food drop, the comic shop guy in the hatch ...
Now that would be even better than the Star Wars episode of the Muppets.
good point engineer and it should make for a great story in tle 2: the two powers
also, nice avatar. go geek power!
World Geek Dominance!
I was so cheering Sunday night when Rachel proudly announced her Geekdom!
dark angel: i can already hear the comic book guy in the hatch, filing his issues of radioactive man!
remember engineer (i assume your an electrical engineer), the geek shall inherit the earth!
Oxillini said:
the geek shall inherit the earth!
Oh you mean Bill Gates and Steve Jobs :P
RE: last night's thread;
Yes, Matt, we get it. I wanted to know what YOU thought TWM's religion was, I should have phrased my question better. Having worked in the field of science for 30 years, with all kinds of scientific disciplines, I know the distinct differences between science and faith, etc. (Just ask Scully:-) But in the science world, TWM's voracity would still not be called a religion, it would be more to the affect of philosophical or theoretical obsession. Just because a scientist/theorist lets his scientific "power" go to his head (and almost become his own god--Lord knows, I worked with enough of those!) his/her obsessive philosophy doesn't turn into the literal definition of a religion. Heh, shades of L.Ron Hubbubb.
Dark Angel, intersting end-of-the-world thoughts. Although, TWM and AH kept saying, "The world as we know it", and everytime I hear that I think, well, how do we know that a change to the world from "as we know it" to something else, would not be a good thing? Just wondering. Could go either way.
Also DA, even though we say "Mom" in the US, I like the way you all say "Mum". I thought that it was especially heartbreaking the way "Mum" was written on the envelope from Princes Harry and Wills that was on the little bouquet on top of Diana's coffin. :-(
oxillini -- ROFL.
And you assume correctly. The "27" is not a randomly selected number, either.
True geekness is an art.
P.S. Dark Angel....TWM=Ming, that's great! And if you are speaking of the 1980's Flash Gordon soundrtack, that was excellent!
"FLASH! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Savior of the Universe!!!!!!!!!!"
engineer27 said...
True geekness is an art.
and i believe this community is an excellent place to perfect that art!
Capcom:
I agree, the danger is in an individuals blindness to new ideas whether in religion or science or anything else for that matter.
If something is really valid whether as a religious belief or a scientific theory then it should be able to stand up to constant testing.
Blind, unquestioning faith in any dicipline is dangerous.
Oh and Aargh Diana - sorry one our Tabloids over here (The Daily Express - or the Daily Facist if you prefer) still print Diana storys virtually every day!
oxillini said...
and i believe this community is an excellent place to perfect that art!
True, but unfortunately perfection will have to wait. I need to go design some circuits now...
Engineer27
I'm meant to be working and now you've got me all distracted trying to figure out the relevence of the 27 - d'oh
And Dark Angel...thank you for Churchill, literally and in your parody way. :-) Too bad they are still milking the Diana thing, not too much anymore over here.
Oh yeah, what would Nelson and Milhouse be doing on the island? Well, they did give us that Lord of the Flies ep, Milhouse was pretty funny in that one! And there was a BOAR in that ep too, wasn't there? Deja vu.
i bet mayor quimby would be fenry!
Capcom said:
And if you are speaking of the 1980's Flash Gordon soundrtack, that was excellent!
"FLASH! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Savior of the Universe!!!!!!!!!!"
Is there another?
GOOD MORNING TLEC!!!
WOW!!!!Very cool...I missed the music and all...Catching up on comments...
DA, Ox, Designer.....OK, now we eventually have to do a complete Simpsons/Lost cast equivalency list! Well, at least till we get another TLE message.
Gosh, I can't believe that TPTB are still thowing us bones, yay! Maybe they'll sort of defy ABC and try to continue with what they wanted to do, before they got the theoretical axe, as long as it doesn't cost anything. I'll take all the bones they will throw out, this is still fun, just reading THF website messages.
Good morning TLEC! I'm so glad this is continuing, since there are so many unanswered questions, I didn't feel like it could be over. Yay!
I haven't posted lately because I've been so busy with my new puppy, Hurley (check picture in my profile/blog). It's just like having a baby again!
Anyway....Looks like an all-out war is coming? It seems the success of Mittlewerk will depend on the people he has working for him. He won't be able to "wage war" alone. Just like Hitler, he needs his army to blindly follow even if what they do goes against their "humanity".
DA...I didn't know if maybe the original Flash Gordon serial had a soundtrack or not. Just checkin'. Would be neat to have the rocket and electrical sound affects from the serial! I bet that Filmfax or Outre magazines might sell something like that. But, I digress, as usual.
Maybe we should email Matt Groenig - although I am not sure whether ABC would be too happy with FOX taking on Lost!
Morning all (still get to say "morning all", yeah!):
Wow, and ABC told us it was over Sunday!
So glad it looks like TLE Part II is coming either during the season break or next summer! Hopefully, some unanswered questions will eventually be addressed.
TWM has the virus...creepy!
Capcom said
DA, Ox, Designer.....OK, now we eventually have to do a complete Simpsons/Lost cast equivalency list! Well, at least till we get another TLE message.
Sounds like a job for tonight
DA, the Simpsons seem to take on any pop-culture they dang well please. :-) Much like S.Park.
'Morning everyone who just came in! Yeah, we still get to say that, innit great?
Re: Simpsons parody of LOST
This year's Treehouse of Horror is set in stone, but maybe we can talk about it enough to put a bug in Matt's ear. It would be a great idea.
Yes, capcom....it's great to still be here!
And I thought I was done updating the Timeline!
Tommy can you hear me? Humanity and I need you, let's do lunch, call me. you hot piney dude.
capcom said:
...Although, TWM and AH kept saying, "The world as we know it", and everytime I hear that I think, well, how do we know that a change to the world from "as we know it" to something else, would not be a good thing? Just wondering. Could go either way.
Right on, brotha!
Remember we still have no idea what the spider protocol is. That whole memo is just out there.
Is the virus involved with the spider protocol? If, so presumably TWM is planning to go forward with it.
Seems thought that since the memo was talking about necessary environmental factors the island had, that this is ddifferent and separate from the virus.
So is Alvar going to go forward with the spider protocol?
Michael = Homer
Walt = Bart
Vincent = Santa's Little Helper
Jack = Dr. Hibbert
Jin = Bumblebee Man
Sawyer = Snake
Sun = Cookie Kwan
Hurley = Comic Book Guy
Desmond = Professor Frink
Kate = Lisa
Claire = Marge
Aaron = Maggie
Anyone else?
Hey Bookpolice, you should have put a spoiler sign on that Simpsons link! :-) That's awesome, thanks. Well, maybe they will have thrown in an offside line or two about Lost. You know how they toss out popculture quips in the middle of conversations.
Re; "A dead looking Mr. Burns"? I thought that he was supposed to look dead anyway. :-)
Cute new doggie, Codysmom! Hurleeeeeeeeeeey!
Designer; Bart and Santa's Helper as Walt and Vincent, LOL!!!!!!! But Homer could be Michael, they are both always yelling their son's names!
Good morning! Holy cow is the ARG over or not? Going to catch up on comments now.
Wow, those are great! And Locke as Krusty, too much. If we knew who "Him" was, maybe that would be Mr. Burns. Especially if "Him" is AH, you know, reeeeeeeally ooooold, like Mr.Burns. Who could Smithers be?
Who are Homer's work and bar friends, can they be anyone? Or just the cast of Others?
I dunno about Desmond, he's just too sexy to be anyone on the Simpsons! :-)
Maven- I knew you shouldn't have cleared out all your bookmarks yet!
Here's my list (second attempt)
Jack Homer
kate Marge
Sawyer Moe
Hurley Otto
Jin Skinner
Sun Miss Krabappel
Claire Lisa
Charlie Milhouse
Locke Bart
Michael Carl
Walt Lenny
Sayid Apu
Desmond Groundskeeper Willie
Boone Martin Prince
Shannon Terri / Sherri
Anna Lucia Patti Bouvier
Libby Miss Hoover
Rose Jaqueline Bouvier
Bernard Abe Simpson
Eko Rev Lovejoy
Fenrey Chief Wiggum
Zeke Dr Hibberd
Miss Clue Mrs Hibberd
Others Nelson, Jimbo etc
Vincent Santa's Little Helper
Alvar Hanso Burns
Dr. Candle Dr Fink
Assorted losties - everyone else
Designer; if Jack ever says on Lost, "Hi-diddle-doo neighbor!", we will know for a FACT that TPTB read this blog daily!!!!!!!!
Or Michael as Ned Flanders and Walt as Todd and Rod
Or how about just Homer and Family with the real Lost cast :)
designermama - "We've got to find my SON! My SON!!!!," Bart walks past Homer, "D'oh!"
That's brilliant.
I was kinda thinking that the romance angle would have to be scrapped. However, you could have Jack be Principal Skinner, Mrs Krabappel as Kate, and I can't let go of Snake as Sawyer. There's always marginal characters in the ToH episodes. And Snake's got a history of stealing women.
Lisa would then have to be.... I dunno. She never dies in the ToH, at least not to my recollection.
Yeah Maven, what Scoupost said! :-)
Oh yeah, guys! We're getting there!
Willie as Desmond???? Noooooooooo! But, OK, it fits. :-) But I can't kiss Willie. Blech.
dark angel - The problem with Dr. Hibbert as Mr. Friendly is that the Simpsons PTB have already cast him as Dr. Moreau. I don't know if they'd want to do that again.
And don't forger Hank Scorpio (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hank_Scorpio) as TVM
but who for Rachel B.?
so what to do with ralph wiggum. you can't have a truly great episode without ralph!
I'd be worried if I were Rachel. A loving Daddy coming out of nowhere. He might want a kidney.
Got it - Jessica Lovejoy as Rachel Blake ( cute and anoying)
You're right Bookpolice, the Simpsons could be on an island/planet/scaryplace and around the cast of Lost/Simpsons. That would simplify things.
Designer; yes, the "My Son/D'oh" thing was exceptionally good! Especially since Michael had a "D'oh" look on his face when Fenry told Michael why he wouldn't tell anyone about the island.
rachel b is one of those purple haired snotty twins!
Mittlework = Side Show Bob?
TBP: Are you saying anything we say might be held against us in an episode of Simpsons?
Noblelawyer: My theory is that the simplest explanations are the most likely. TPTB don't seemed to have thought things through as much as we have. Therefore probably everything related to the SPIDER PROTOCOL was in that packet Rachel got from Darla and Hugh and not much more. Virus, test site, ship to transport and spread infection. The video revealed that the SPIDOR PROTOCOL was the development of the virus to kill exactly 30% of the world's population in order to change one of the factors, one number, influencing the Valezetti end of the world date. Does it make total sense? Maybe not, but I think we're being asked to take this stuff largely at face value.
Oxillini said:
so what to do with ralph wiggum. you can't have a truly great episode without ralph!
Too true - you could recast Otto as the Pilot (Dude, how do you fly this thing) and fit Ralph in as Hurley although not sure if that would work though.
Oh yeah! Fenry as Smithers, I can see it. "Him's" go-to/go-fer guy. You guys are too fun! I think we've made our own TLE:the Simpsons ARG.
Then I guess Alvar would be Side Show Bob's brother.
Twinkle, TWM as Sideshow Bob???!! Perfect casting!
And Otto as the pilot, perfection as well.
Twinkle, I like what you said about the Protocal. But I would have felt more closure, if TWM actually said,"We all know what happened, the DI failed. Hense, my Spider Protocal". But, then I could refer back to what you said about TPTB not actually thinking of all the answers to the questions (X-Files shivers again).
Probably makes the most sense to do what DA suggested and just have the Simpson people spouting "Lost-isms" and associating with the Lost characters. Or make the marginal characters in Simpsons equate to Lost characters while keeping the core Simpson characters themselves. Then Selma and her sister could become "Jack and Sawyer"-ish and some new love interest of theirs could be Kate. Or maybe in some other instance, reversing the gender of the characters could work?
Scoutpost and Capcom: I didn't delete all my TLE Bookmarks! Just did a little housecleaning...important sites are still there! Yeah!
Love the Simpson/Lost casting! I vote Mr. Burns/Mittelwork. Great work guys!
Well, the virus seems the most important thing that came out of all the Valenzetti discussions. Changing the population figures seems to be core to changing a factor of the equation. At least Alvar and Rachel will be working together now (with our help), and we can get to Mittelwerk (maybe during the Season 3 break or next summer if he hasn't killed off 30% of the population yet!
Well guys time for me to head of into the sunset...
catch you later
Namaste
DA
I can't believe they dug up James Coburn to play Alvar. Not so much in the video, but the .org pic looks just like him. It was a great game most of the time and I hope, I hope, I hope that there will be a sequel! Too much fun! I just hate coming in here and not seeing a new update anymore. =o(
Question on the Mayan doomsday calendar: is that the one that's the big round calendar with the sunface sticking out its tongue? I guess if I check out that article, it might show it. Wonder who it's sticking its tongue out at? :-) Mankind? Chris Carter? Mittlewerk? The Aliens?
Yeah really, Maven. TWM has the virus, how do we keep him from using it until next summer...or seven weeks from now? Hmmmmm.
Dear TPTB- please give us something else to do or we'll start scripting an episode of the Simpsons LOST.
capcom: OT - I just went to a workshop this weekend that gave a brief overview of moderism versus postmodernism and it is definitely influencing my interpretation of TLE this week. The desire for final closure, for specific evidence in order to make conclusions, is more modern way of thinking about it. (And that's also what I'm more comfortable with.) The postmodern way of thinking is more comfortable with allowing ambiguity. It seemed obvious to me from the DJ Dan podcasts that we were meant to assume things as true even though there was hard evidence for them. So I've been trying to look at TLE from a more postmodern mindset and it's working better. IMHO some of the disconnects and frustrations with TLE have been caused by this modern/postmodern mindset difference.
shouldn't alvar be doing something about getting rid of the helgus antonius? noblelawyer, got any use for a slightly contaminated container ship? it's available for the low low price of 1,000,000 apollo bars.
You know, once we finish disecting the Simpsons, we can start on a Futurama/Lost ep. The one they did about Star Trek (the Apollo planet ep) was side-splitting.
"Welshy, nooooooooooooooooooooooo!"
"Say it in Russian!"
"OK, the wessel!"
sorry "even though there was not hard evidence" we were supposed to assume some things were true, i.e. that Mittlework's virus was designed to kill 30% of the population of the entire planet even though he was only using it on Sri Lankans at the time.
I agree with you twinkle: We were given many things over the course of TLE that we just had to accept as true even though we continued to dissect every little detail. I always said that we should "go with the flow" and accept some unbelieveable or unproven things. TPTB wanted the story to go a certain way which sometimes stretched the reality we know to the limit...so we were constantly pushed in that direction. Even something as simple as Rachel=Persephone was a major point of contention all summer, but it was just a simple story point. We just had to accept continuity errors (how can she be here, when she was just there?), scientific impossibilities, human errors, etc. Suspension of belief was vital to this ARG!
Oh yeah, Twinkle! Modernism and postmodernism, delicious stuff! Our pastor refers to that alot in his Monday night "university" class where we discuss current events vs. history. It really explains a lot about the collective mind of society.
maven: i think tptb kind of painted themselves into a corner. they wanted to tell a story, but that story was so interwoven with science and theory that the two were inseperable. then the problem is, science must stand up to exacting inspection. once we gout our magnifying glass on their story, the holes look mighty big.
Hehe, glad I did the clean up myself before checking the comments so I can pat myself on the back.
Well, hmmm, still disapointed with the ending (especially the all to obvious Rachel is Alvars daughter thing and the way Malek just comes to the rescue whenever needed). But I'm starting to like Mittlewerk a bit more as a bad guy. Seems he can hack websites well enough himself. I'm not convinced at how good the new Hanso Foundation is either.
Also still too many loose ends. I want to know if Mittlewerks blood change was because he *is* in his own genetic target group.
Anyway, I don't think this ARG is quite concluded just yet, even if it will be continued only in the form of a sequel. If it does get a sequel I hope they can convince Javi to stay on board.
Oxillini: Half the fun of the summer was poking holes in their story! Very big holes indeed! But, it was still a story they wanted to tell...they just underestimated our search for the truth and what this great community was capable of. They probably just didn't think it through as thoroughly as we did! However, I still say somethings just had to be accepted at face value so that we could rationalize the direction of the story.
LOL Joel, the first thing I thought too was, hey, TWM hacks just like Persephone!
Ox, I agree. For a non-scientist to write/create scientific fiction (not to be confused with scifi and scifantasy) one must be very careful to not go out of the bounds of the realm of verification. But, I decided to myself that Lost is scifi/scifantasy, so I'm trying to not hold TPTB to too much scrutiny concerning things like, how exactly does the VE work, etc. (covers eyes)
Not everyone can be like Arthur C. Clark and write a story that invents satellites and geosyn orbit. So, I cut them some slack, since it looks like *so far* TPTB are *trying* to stay within the realm of scifact within the fiction where possible.
By the way whatever happened to Joop? Is he dead? I love that stupid monkey!!!
Well, I'm off for a while...so glad we still get to "check in" here a while longer and continue great discussions! See ya all later!
'Morning Fenrisulven. What did you mean that TWM is his own genetic target group? Sorry if I'm dense.
Too true Maven, the poking of holes was one of the best parts of the ARG. :-) No offense of course to TPTB. They had no idea of the intellect that they were up against in their audience. :-) But in all fairness, they probably thought that they were merely writing the ARG as another TV script, more or less, and didn't realize how many people were going looking at the plot and science with such scrutiny, i.e., leading us to connect it to things such as tesseracts, e.g. Although, they do seem to throw out the little tidbits that lead us to those informatioin searches though. But we don't want Lost/ARG to be a Nat'l Geo channel documentary anyway, we want it to be intelligent but fun!
maven, i wasn't disagreeing with you re: accepting things at all. that is certainly what tptb wanted us to do at times. i was just pointing out that it seemed very inconsistent. at one point, we're supposed to look at things and try to find patterns and hidden meanings, other times, we're not supposed to look at the details at all. it's a tricky situation they were/are in! i don't envy them one bit!
Agreed Ox, about wanting us to notice patterns/meanings and then not wanting us too. *coughxfilescough* Which ones do you dwell on and which ones not to? Maybe we need a list for that too.... "pay close attetion here" vs. "take note and forget". I hope that Joop is not in the "forget" category in the ARG. I have a feeling that in the series there are a lot of "take note and forget" areas.
capcom said: What did you mean that TWM is his own genetic target group?
I think that is a very reasonable conclusion, Fenris. TVM had to innoculate himself and probably other members of his team who would die if exposed to the engineered virus because they were part of the 30% percent. Although that fudges on TVM's "exactly 30%" speech.
capcom continued: [TPTB] had no idea of the intellect that they were up against in their audience. :-) But in all fairness, they probably thought that they were merely writing the ARG as another TV script, more or less, and didn't realize how many people were going looking at the plot and science with such scrutiny, i.e., leading us to connect it to things such as tesseracts, e.g. Although, they do seem to throw out the little tidbits that lead us to those informatioin searches though.
I agree. Seems to me that what we have here are postmoderns who care more about story, process, and philisophical questions than conclusions writing a story for a largely modern thinking audience who care more about details and science, with a few puzzles thrown in because "that's what you're supposed to do in an ARG."
Like ox said "tricky situation."
Belly - Did you get your Apollo yet?
David/Admin - When do you need me for th egrand finale podcast? I work Wed. until 6 pm and will be free from 7 or so on...My microphone died while trying to record for DJ Lena, so you will have to call me via skype again if that is ok...if not let me know and I will come up with a microphone if I have splice a USB to a can...
All in all I am happy with the ending...if this were to be a short film it would have been pretty good. I think, hope, pray that we get our fix of TLE, ahem, I mean I need a sequel!! Where is that dang 7 step process for kicking TLE????
Simpsons flashbacks are just too scary to even contemplate.
Belly...u-2-funny!
Thrasher, yeah...My name is Capcom, and I'm a TLE-aholic. Or, rather, a Tee-Lekk-aholic.
Designer....one of the stuck-up purple girls as Rachel, oh yeah!
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And here all this time when people said "purple haired girls" I was thinking of Marge's twin sisters and not Bart's classmates!! LOL!
OK, I missed that, duh, twins, Rachel and Persephone, perfect :-)
Hey, Belly, do you have a few extra hours today? I could use some help?
Or capcom? You've been on a lot today. Is it a light day for you? If you do have extra time, please e-mail me at twinklestarmom at yahoo dot com. Thanks!
Roger that, Twinkle. Email on it's way.
Twinkle- I sent you an email too. Let me know if I can help.
designer, thanks! the twins would have to be identical in every way except intelligence. guess which one is the smart one!
here's an interesting question. who put mittelwerk's message in? did twm suddenly become an expert hacker?
Twinkle, did you get my email? Just checking in case I typed the address wrong.
I got it. You all are just terrific! I've written all of you back.
hey ervery1 i just got home from skool. THERE HAS TO BE A SEQUEL! ther just has to be. or maybe its not over??? maybe abc hasnt told us EVERYthing. ?????
Hmmmm...he's holding Malek hostage with baby pictures that he's threatening to show to Rachel? They surrounded him with goons pointing Apollo Bars at him while he hacked the Hanso site and left TVM's message? Ooooh, I know! They put Joop up to it.
Hmm... I wonder what will happen with THF.org once season 3 starts? Will ALvar's letter stay up or will it revert to something different. I aslo wonder about some of the other sites like Gary Troup, Valenzetti, or even Oceanic815??
Hafta say that talking to you all via e-mail really tickles my funny bone. I mean I know you all are real but getting an e-mail from you is like confirming that this TLE isn't all in my head! LOL! Anybody want to keep my TLE e-mail address twinklestarmom at yahoo dot com, feel free. I'd love to hear from you during the next season of Lost. And if I get spam, I'll know where it came from. ABC
Oh and anybody who's talking on storiesofthelost and wants to talk to me offlist (or whatever) feel free to do that too.
*******TLE SPOILER*******
DJ DAN REVEALS HIS TRUE IDENTITY! He also opens the door to questions...
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Admin! How do you find these things!?
so, will there be a cast list or something? that would be interesting.
Okay from the previous thread first:
Campcom - Don't worry I'm sticking around and you'll certainly see me in TLC. Although even cheating I will still be at least a day behind the US on the actual episodes. As for Holywoodland - Wow, that one really slipped me by. Looks right up my alley however. I will give you an opinion on the matter as soon as I form one! As for Black Dahlia I'm going to see it this friday. Hopefully the IMDB rating is misleading. As for the track. Lol. Yes it was a bit like performance art. Given most of the backing was recorded in in one take and not edited to smooth it out or take out the duff notes. The bass line is completely unrelated to the rest of the song (and a relic from a previous version I didn't really like as much), but I kept it in there because it kinda worked. Anyway I am going to tweak it now and there will be a more professional version up soonish. Heh, that wasn't even the track I have been working on it was just me deciding a Mittlewerk track would be a lot quicker to do then another DJ Dan one and I would be more likely to get it out before the ARG concludes.
Twinkle - The thing is we don't know whether that 30% actually had to die or whether they just needed to remove the key genetic code that they contained. So Mittlewerks blood change could have been an alternative to extermination. At least as far as the equation goes. It could be that it was just something that was overlooked by Valencetti (what happened to the finding Valencetti thing btw?), that someone like Mittlewerk could make the equation technically change but not actually prevent the end of the world because the actual element that will cause it has become invisibile to the equation. In other words he is cheating to cause the equation to give a meaningless answer. But naturally he doesn't believe *he* could cause the end of the world.
I don't trust Alvar though. I think his blood problem suggests he had the same kind of treatment which at the least puts him in the potentially "bad" group.
Also, LOL@Me for not actually clicking and just hovering my mouse and trying to figure out what was being said. I'm tired.
Twinkle...
(And Everyone Else!)
CHECK THIS OUT! Talk about a sweet souvenir!!!
I agree, Fenris, we don't know. I'm only saying, based on the way DJ Dan was talking, that we should just assume the simplest explanations. After all DJ Dan didn't know much in the ARG but Javi did and he let it slip through in his intonations and the wordings he chose.
We'll see how much better TPTB get the second time around!
I think the time delay could be easily written into the story: he's rebuilding his lab, it takes longer because he has to work in secret, he doesn't have enough of hte virus to produce the effect he desires, etc.... But I hope they don't wait until next summer too.
Admin: If I won that my husband would seriously think I was daft! I want a stuffed DHARMA shark anyway, not a boat! ;-)
is that Rachel(Actress who played RB) in the photo of DJDAN
Javi answered my question! Be still my heart. :)
Apparently, he thinks I'm daft and don't realize that the numbers are on the show, but what can a girl do?
twinkle, you still here? I started The Other puzzle this weekend! Should be done today or tomorrow :)
bigdog - yeah, that's her
Feel a little sad that this is really over.
that said the people in this blog are very cool and will be missed.
Phew, September was a hard month you guys gave me...
I sent you guys an e-mail...
Hope it wasn't too much. Looks like I've been missing whats going on today....going to catch up...
How did javier grillo-marxuach create a user profile that is dated the 28th of September? (Today is September 26, 2006, BTW)
http://hansofoundation.livejournal.com/profile?mode=full
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Thanks for that link to....
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Javier's journal, Admin! Boy, talking about breaking the 4th wall! LOL
LOL Ihorse007, about requirements for talking to people about Lost. My sister supposedly watches every ep, but when I get into the details of Lost or TLE, her eyes glaze over, she looks at her watch, and says that she has to go to the bathroom. So, new name for those kind of Lost watchers = Lost Plebes.
Hi All again.
Just letting you know I have done some work on that track cleaned it up a lot (bum notes mostly removed) and changed/added to the Mittlewerk speech.
Also of course with DJ Dan telling me not to use the numbers I had to actually put the numbers themselves in there. Bwhahaha. The world is doomed!
Speaking of DJ Dan, I am *so* going to comment on Javi's blog tomorrow when I have more time to sit and read.
http://www.darksider.co.uk/danumbers.mp3
Fenris said: "I am *so* going to comment on Javi's blog tomorrow"
VERY much looking forward to that!!!! :-)
Fenris: Great mix! Loved Mittelwerk's rhythm! LOL
Goingdark, I noticed that too, there is the general area within the paragraph there that makes the spooky sound, but still only "humanity" links out so far.
Fenris - That mix scares me....TVM is one creepy guy. Very nice mix. I like the guitar parts.
Capcom - I haven't actually read it yet because I knew I'd not have time and have to hit the sack early tonight. But I have heard about it and did glance at the cool team photo.
Maven - Thanks. I was quite happy I was able to work Mittlewerks final message in there at the end. :)
Ryan - Thanks :) Actually I was thinking that about TVM while listening to it as well. :)
Okay going to bed, see you guys tomorrow.
You're probably in dreamland now, but very nice music Fenris! Wow! I put it on continuous play for a while.
im just dropping in to say a few things.
1. fenris-awesome mix.
2. i still think we will get a few more letters before this thing really officially draws to a close. either that or rb will post up on the hanso site a newspaper headline that says "mittelwerk shot and killed during raid" or something like that. i guess right now, we're in the epilogue of the tle.
3. I had a great time. at some points, i actually forgot this was all about lost. and i cant wait until thusday's podcast, and TLC.
One week and one day people. get the countdown clock ready.
Mellissa_Lossa: Great job working on that puzzle!
Woohoo! Javi answered my question! I am on a supreme geek high.
I just have to say that I think it is so cool that he's giving us the chance to ask.
Great, fysb! I just posted another few questions for him. Hope he answers! This is fun!
does anyone think that this "lost experience" is deja vu with the LOST's Widmores?
What is it with the Fathers and their daughters...?
Well it seems that everyone is moving over to TLC so I'll be heading over to there and maybe the stories of the Lost blog.
ShaunD316 - yes I agree, Alvar does look like Noel Edmonds (does that make TVM Mr. Blobby?)
Well I don't know whether this will be my last post on this blog or even the last post on this blog, so NAMASTE.
Good Morning Losties! I guess there is not a lot to discuss today. There is the season 1 and 2 recap show on tonight to get everyone caught back up before the start of season 3 next week. YAY!!!
Natevoodoo - Yeah I watched it on Monday, it was an Encore last night, it was ok. They did not really explain some of the peoples powers very well and the others they did an excellent job. I don't think I am going to watch it again, especialy with Lost starting up again. I can only get into 1 show at a time.
Thrasher: HI, how's your funny bone? Also, what is the link for the new TLE Community blog, and are you at work today (LOL)?
Ange - Yes I am working today!! I think??? My funny bone is good, although I am sorry to have announced myself being on DJ Lena's podcast and then not being able to get together with her to record. I am going to post a transcript of it here for all of you guys to view. The Lost Community blog is here.
Here is what I was going to record on DJ Lena's podcast...Keep in mind it was a parody...
DJ Lena: Next we have Chad on the line, 'ello!
Chad:
My friend Ange and I where going to this new petting zoo, The ScoutPost to visit the talking goat, Dennis. As we were driving she told her neice and nephew, Allyson and Ryan, who Drumz that you better "Fasten Your Seat Belts" because the road was going to get very bumpy. The Boomerang Truck that we were riding swerved to avoid a DazzedElf, and crashed into this Greek Statistician named Ora Oxillini, it seems he was not paying attention to the road because he was reading off this series of letters that would save the moon from complete reconstruction. With a Twinkle in my eye I told him that he better have a Noble Lawyer because we were going to sue. He said he was terribly sorry but he had to go because he was late returning to the library and that if he did not get there soon The Book Police was going to arrest him. We exchanged information and as he turned to leave he shook my hand and said "Peace and Namaste!"
DJ Lena: Um, Peace and wha'?
Chad: Right! Which I found to be very odd since it was a common saying with these people I work with at the Sohan Federation. Deep down in my Belly Of Desire I knew that he had something to do with this project my boss, David, the Administrator was working on called the Greg Imperitive. I poked around at the office and spoke to my friend Thomas Peterson and asked for his input. He told me to to forget I ever heard of the Greg Iperititive and that I need to change my password to "DedJezter" per our IT department head and the president Alvin Sohan. As I was doing this I was contacted by a funny sounding woman named Rachel Flake who claimed to be an Experimental Film tester with Sohan, telling me to get out and run for my life, she also told me to call DJ Lena and expose the man. So that is my story DJ Lena....I was going to post it on TLEC but those people are too polite and smart.
DJ Lena: There you have it, Exposed!! Next caller...
Thrasher, that is BRILLIANT!
(and I don't use Rachel font lightly, so you know that I am serious!)
WOW!! I am honored to have impressed the hilarious FYSB!! thanks!
Right on Thrasher, Thanks for including me on that...Too bad it didn't work out. Can't wait for the recording today...
Thrasher: That is sooo funny! I'm not even upset that MAVEN wasn't used (no way I can think of to do that!) LOL At least your kitty has my name! LOL
Tonights commercial during lost might be somethign like this...
(Fade in) Alvar Hanso standing in front of a Hanso Foundation Logo...
Mr. Beardy: As you have been already told you are bound by your honor and commitment. These words could not ring more true today. We have seen our company, my company over run with coruption and evil. Today we stand anew, on the edge of building something new and exciting. The new Hanso Foundation is commited to being all that it had set out to be. With the help of our faithful followers on TLEC and Rachel Blake we can venture forward to a better tomorrow. Thank You and Namaste!
(Fade Out---fuzzy picture---) Thomas Werner Mittlewerk in a dark room...
TWM: You may have won this battle, but the war is far from over. I have the virus and I have the cure...(evil laugh)
End commercial...follow along at http://thelostcommunity.blogspot.com/
David... Thanks for the Javi Blog link. I love the behind-the-scenes stuff. I posted some comments and questions.
Thrasher76... Very Funny :) thanks for including me and my goat!
I look foward to seeing everyone at TheLostCommunity.
How is that pronounced anyway? "T.L.C."? "Talc"?
The game is once more afoot. I almost didn't catch this email from Rachel/Melanie as my spam filter tagged it but here it is.....
Not sure if you remember me from last year, but hopefully you do. I need your help again. Even though I rescued my father and he is now back in charge of his company, I have discovered that there is still a 'shadow' board that is funneling funds for their own projects. They have set up areas within each of the organizations throughout the company and although there is only a handful of members on this 'shadow' board, they are very powerful. We need proof before my father can take any action against them. I am known now, but my cousin Lorri is not. I have got her into Healthway and she will be my eyes and ears there. We have a few good people in the right places. It has taken a while, but we are now at the most dangerous point - where we are in the middle of their operations. We need to gather proof to bring these people down for good this time. I hope I can count on you.
Mel
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