Lost Experience Podcast Episode 5
We're all back in town for the latest edition of our podcast, and we even brought in a special guest. Tune in to find out a little more about the new research blog along with our usual insights and listener feedback.
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This one is a little longer than you're used to, but hang in there! It's all good...
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This one is a little longer than you're used to, but hang in there! It's all good...
NOTE: For those who are interested, we did no post-production on this podcast.
185 Comments:
Great intro. You sound so "professional"!
holy toleto!!! persephone! That would be neat if it really was her...we shall know on tuesday huh?? LOL
oh yah..they brought up the dog/shark!!
YAHHHH LOL...i know, im weird
That voice for persephone is just a text to speech program...that could have been Mr. T on there for all we know LOL
First time to listen to you guys, i update over at www.thelostexperience.com, we all really enjoy your updates, and witty humor.
Sephy sounds alot like my pastor... this could be bad :)
Keep up the great work, its a pleasure to read and listen.
G'day
I wish you could just add more to previous posts on these comments, double posting is so Anti-Forum rules :) Anyways, sorry I'm back with more, but I just got done listening to alllll of this podcasts, and when you mentioned it was longer then normal, I was very surprised.
Not sure if there are techie geeks out there, but the podcasts reminds me of the OLD Screen Savers (now Attack of the Show) on G4(Which was TechTv), anyways my point is. I think you could definately turn your podcast into a regular Broadcasting, with Images and videos of the things you guys are discussing. A site new to the internet (well fairly new) is Veoh.com which is for the broadcasters and directors of the future. It would be great to see a show for The Lost Experience, the podcast already sounds great. I guess i'm hooked now :) Thats ok with me
LOL i hear ya lost and confused!!
On the night the season finale aired I recorded the show AND wrote down EVERY commercial so I could later check out EVERY companies website LOL
NOWHERE LOL
I made an ELABORATE website to it and noone seems the least bit interested...but I think its neat non the less!
click here to see it
In that blog is a link to the Dean Koontz stuff, has alot of cool stuff in it!
Hey Lena,
Have you read "By the light of the Moon"?
Because today's developments touch on a similar subject. (I don't want to spoil it for those who haven't read the book)
ROFL!! I loved the ukulele!!!
And yes, I have read "By the light of the moon"! One of many that hit so close to the LOST themes, guess that makes sence as to why I love LOST...I am a Koontz junky!
I think that was the most enjoyable podcast to date, I was constantly laughing Thanks guys :D
lab tech:
Dont have any clues to that. It would rock if there were, but so far, no. I sometimes think its just the writers either REALLY like Koontz writing or they have simular writing techniques.
What really got me going one day was the guy over in the insidetheexperience that goes by THE WOLFE... Wolfe is a pen name of Koontz, and he was in on shuting down that board that day with a guy who went by aaron which happens to be the first name of that pen name...Aaron Wolfe...with an E and that end.
Not sure now what got me and hubby thinking he could be something I now dont think he was, but at the time, it seemed so clear LOL. Funny thing is though...WOLFE would NEVER answer my questions like "how is gerdy?" and "how is trixie?" which are wife and dog of Koontz. He would answer all other questions and never wandered why I was asking those questions. VERY ODD.
oh yah, and i went by "odd t" in there and thats for "Odd Thomas" by Koontz LOL
Anyone familar with Mr. Murder? Good/bad twin theme from cloning.
Thanks belly!
Hey guys, about to let my wife listen to the podcast. This will be her second to submit to. She has a special message for all my new friends. She says "Hi" and "that we're all dorks" (but in a very loving way). I guess I agree with her. I'll check back into the comments forum later.
Peace out.
Kewl! WE ARE THE LOST DORKS!!! YAH!!!
ROFL!!
(kinda sorta has a ring to it huh?)
Your welcome Patrick! But still want to make sure everyone understands, all that work on the timeline and the podcast stuff is NOT ALL ME! I wish I could take all the credit LOL but LOTS of others have been giving the info and using their braincells on it too!! All I am doing with those really is putting all the info that we all contribute in one neat and tidy place.
AND fitz66: YES! DOG IS IN SHARK!!
Labtech, a nanobot is a specific term within nanotechnology.
Nanobots have "brains".
I think that the producers were playing semantics. It is entirely possible that the black smoke is indeed nanotechnology (nanomachines, not bots) which are controlled remotely instead of self-directed.
Make sense?
Behind the Scenes:
1. The Podcast is more of a "just for fun" thing for us and our listeners and friends from this site. I wouldn't read too much into what we say or do on that thing.
2.I think the Persephone interview was just Daniel's very creative way of expressing his annoyance at the music, expressing the idea that DJDan & Persephone are connected, and initiating a new theory about some "accident".
3. Since it is "just for fun" the way we prep is that we each agree to come up with at least one topic each. Then we express our views on that topic, and then engage with one another about the different topics. We don't prep together so we don't always know what to expect out of each other. Daniel surprised us today with the Persephone thing. My opinion is that he just went above and beyond this week with his prep and presented his topic in an really well done live interview format. It was gutsy but I think it was brilliant and very funny.
Hoping he hasn't "sold out" on us... :)
LOL leelee...
I fixed my husband problem with that by getting him hooked too!! :P
I am into politics too and see what you are saying. Remember the letter referencing "hanson starting wars at the speed of light" or something like that?
But I for some reason felt odd about that letter....let me go hunt that down on my computer and get back at you in a few.
P.S. Before I head off to bed, I wanted to go ahead and officially acknowledge that I was annoyed by myself while listening to the podcast and will make a concentrated effort to NOT INTERUPT as much next time.
Alright, just got done listening to the podcast and catching up on comments...
Admins - Great job! I love listening to the podcasts you guys put out. To put it in perspective, I have yet to "catch-up" on the official Lostcasts, but have listened to all of yours. Again, great job.
idaho girl - you deserved the "shout out". Thanks again for your patience and determination.
bellyo - yes! please let us know what happens at comic con!
lab_tech - I agree about the nanotech for several reasons: 1. official denouncement of the theory, 2. Ask Javi podcast that I've mentioned earlier, 3. I think that might be a little too close to plagiarism for ABC/Disney (i.e. Koontz references)
leelee - welcome, and I feel your pain... I like the new approach, and think that the political aspects of it all may come into light...
There was more, but my brain shut down about 2 hours ago.... g'night and good luck!
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WOW...HANSON IS NOW STARTING WARS!!! Probably due to that song...
Our government could use that song as secret weapon putting it on a loop and driving the enemy INSANE! LOL
OK! I did a little thinking tonight...can ya smell the smoke? LOL
I analized the 5/16 podcast so far...
PLEASE GO READ and comment your thoughts on it there too!
click here
HOLY SMOKE...
I think I figured out something about DJDan but afraid to say it yet...
matt, belly, maven, WHERE IS EVERYONE????????????
I hope Persephone doesn't decide to hack the Hanso site and put "Mmmm Bop" as the music instead of Growing Pains...
oof to read your theory lena
lena,
Id like to hear it too
Back in the day, I thought nano technology solved a lot of stuff on LOST, especially the monster, and personally, I think the way this all was described in the podcast, it is the writers laughing about the possibility again.
In the LOST community, we used key terms such as "rain cloud" like monster and "nanites" and its connection to electromagnetism. Then, Damon Lindelof said that there was no nano technology going on; though, we did get the bone about "what do you consider nano bots?" It's all just to throw us off as usual.
The important thing from this podcast, I think, is all about the mind control. The tower he is referring to was shown in the last clue making that extremely load noise similar to the season 2 finale noise. Also, he is saying that despite seeing the tower, they can't see any island base or anything.
Maybe that tower protects the island from being found unless it is found by accident? A sort of mind control that limits our ability to perceive the huge island from the sky. It would explain how Flight 815 landed on the island but couldn't be found. It is a fluke occurance, an accident. Now, as indicated by Desmond and the end of Season 2, unless you go the exact perfect way (maybe opposite of the tower), you can't get out.
All of this sure does make electromagnetism sound pretty crazy. Maybe it will bring back popularity in Einstein's Grand Answer to Everything. Electromagnetism being the key to perception and life itself.
-The Truth Tempest
Don't be swayed by lies.
Don't even be swayed by the truth.
Take heart of the truly odd alone.
Hey triple T! Back huh?
You said:
It would explain how Flight 815 landed on the island but couldn't be found. It is a fluke occurance, an accident. Now, as indicated by Desmond and the end of Season 2, unless you go the exact perfect way (maybe opposite of the tower), you can't get out.
I dont think this is possible...the plane wreck HAD to be somewhat planned. Think about all of the connections and everything going on, and how the "others" knew the names of everyone and so on...
LOL
Lavenda said...
I hope Persephone doesn't decide to hack the Hanso site and put "Mmmm Bop" as the music instead of Growing Pains...
Oh boy, I will never live that goof down!! LOL But it WOULD be HILARIOUS!!!!
I have such a major theory in my head that I wander if it could ACTUALLY be true LOL
Should I reviel tonight?? I just dont know...maybe I should go through the other podcast...got two done so far.
desisions AARRGGGGGG
Back indeed.
lena, I thought they were using their psychic kids(like ol Special Walt) to get their names. Or something else that has not been explained yet.
::::::FINALE SPOILER WARNING::::::
Of course it wasn't -random- per se for them to end up there, but their crashing was random. The season 2 finale showed that it was a random act of Desmond not getting back in time from the random act of the guy trying to leave with his boat. All of that was random. Then, that created the pulse that pulled down the plane that crashed it.
Now, unless you are telling me that somehow they controlled that Desmond would go out that day, stay just long enough to be late, and have a big electromagnetic pulse pull down the plane that was flying by right at that moment in time, then I say it was quite random.
Still, you could say that somehow someone or something is controlling all of their fates and actions bringing them all together ever since the original experiments in the 70s. Yet, as far as evidence goes at this point, the finale showed that their crash was random due to a random event. The rest is certainly not random.
Maybe it is all about painting it as a small world and looking at the themes of lives influencing other lifes, just in an extreme case. I believe until we gain more facts, we must accept that the season 2 finale gives more reason to believe that it was a random act brought about by the actions of Desmond.
::::::::SPOILER END:::::::::
Thanks for listening.
-The Truth Tempest
Who pulls the strings of Fate itself?
Making coincidence to reason.
Death to martyr.
oh. And just say it lena. We are LOST fans. We want everything as soon as humanly possible. This is like teasing us. (or giving us a super lame countdown)
Speak.
-The Truth Tempest
"Speak, Retriever of Truth!"
Ok Ok...but I am NOT 100% on this but do feel pretty confident...
DJDan podcast are nothing more than a "war of the worlds". There, said it. The whole DJDan thing is so to speak...staged.
Well... yeah.
Isn't that what the LOST ARGH! is?
It is a giant, expansive War of the Worlds tale. To the uninformed, the Hugh McIntyre interview was an interview with some guy from a charitable organization with ties to a show that "some of their friends watch".
If there was a Hanso commercial that mentioned cloning, don't you think there would be at least a thousand anti-cloning people calling their fake phoneline or going to the Hanso site complaining that it is buggy and being oddly hacked while they are there?
Someone looks up "answers to everything equation" through google on a whim. ooo A site about some Valenzetti guy! How strange but interesting.
1/6 of all people whom buy the Gary Troup book Bad Twin don't watch LOST. Half didn't know that Gary Troup wasn't a real author, which really let them down to find out, since it was such a nice thriller. Where's our Bad Triplet sequel?
Everything in the LOST ARGH! is Orson Welles' "War of the Worlds". Everything.
We are people that know he is reading a transcript on a radio show.
To others, we are being invaded. Or they just never heard of the oh so charitable Hanso Foundation.
Thanks for tuning in.
-The Truth Tempest
*throws bone*
DJDan podcast was in the owelles folder. Orson Welles = DJDan Podcasts indeed.
ah, but within the game, if it was staged... is it a hoax or a conspiracy to look like hoax? And what does that make Persephone?
YES LAVENDA!! You get what I meant!!!
IT FAKE WITHIN the game! I KNOW IT FAKE IN REAL LIFE SILLY triple T!!
lavenda: Not sure what my view is on persephone, not even totally convident about the DJDan thing...but I just got that feel after reviewing the transcripts on my blog.
But the biggest thing I have to tackle to make that theory more real would be to get WHY would someone (and who) would do it.
I dont think I am gonna get into why I am at this conclusion tonight but in the morning I will post something about it on my blog.
Lena
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Well people, I am brain fried and my butt in numb...time for beddy bye.
Go check out my blogs that I have been updating all night! Just click on my pic.
Good night!
lol. I was just running with the theme. I understood how you meant the DJDan stuff to be an in-game hoax. heh. I just like the connection between owelles and the Lost Argh!.
Speaking of which, I prostrated a theory a while back about both DJDan and Persephone, though mainly DJDan.
I wondered if it was all 1984 syndrome. The evil makes its own enemy so that it can control both its own followers and the followers of their "enemy". Thus, they control the minds of both sides and can end an enemy for a new one at any time.
I think that DJDan and perhaps even Persephone, are fabrications of the group behind the Hanso Foundation. We'll just call them... the Hanso Group. With so much talk of dark dealings and every person on the board of directors being the leader of endless numbers of things, from newspapers to rights corporations, it makes sense that maybe it is a formulated fight.
When one senses a rise of dissidence, should you crush the threat? To most traditional villains, yes, but under the 1984 "absolute control" mentality, one matches rising dissidence with providing a hero of the cause that you can control. Then, you have the prominent voice of both sides. Not one person is left without your influence.
DJDan as a character is a hoax, a fraud, but a fraud given life by the Hanso Group. Maybe even Persephone is just a diversion and a false leader to draw attention away from the true people behind it all. Maybe we haven't seen the faces of any of the top brass of the HF because they don't exist. The Hanso Foundation is a cover for the true group beneath the surface. The Hanso Group behind the worldwide DHARMA project.
Alvar Hanso, a saint and charitable soul of his time. Died but kept alive in the news to keep the Hanso Foundation visage alive. One day people will shut down the Hanso Foundation, only to find a coffin at its top and a backdoor in the shadows.
-The Truth Tempest
Played by Tom Cruise in the remake of "The LOST Experience"
why would someone create a hoax/conspiracy masquerading as a hoax? By having a crack-pot conspiracy theorist spouting all this stuff out it opens the ideas up to ridicule and less people are likely to believe it as being true... it discredits the truth opening the way for Hanso to project their false holier than thou image
Exactly, lavenda.
Haven't you noticed a trend with DJ Dan lately? He has continued to have more and more absurd things to say.
Mind control? Nano technology?
He is known for saying he is fighting against "The Man". That phrase has for years been a stereotype of naive hippies. A phrase ridiculed for its generalization and indescrimenant attack.
Even -he- is a corporate whore now.
All of this adds up to making him indeed seem preposterous and people's theories against the Hanso Foundation to sound like, well, conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theorists? What a loaded term. To call anything a "conspiracy" in this day and time is to actually discredit it some. It makes it seem nutty.
JFK was shot with a magic bullet sponsored by the Russians.
The Hanso Foundation is secretly genetically altering creatures and doing scary secret experiments on super children in African countries.
The moon landing was all staged by the government.
The Hanso Foundation has a huge tower of mind control and a lost island in the middle of the Pacific Ocean.
They all sound rather preposterous to me.
But we know better?
Maybe we don't.
It is -completely- 1984 syndrome.
Mind control? No secret electromagnetic signals for that. Look simply to media. The media of Hanso and the media of DJDan. Maybe even Persephone. Mind control of the willing and eager.
"Oceania has no capital, and its titular head is a person whose whereabouts nobody knows."
- George Orwell, 1984, Book 1, Chapter 9
“The broad mass of the nation ... will more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a small one.”
— Adolf Hitler, in his 1925 book Mein Kampf
-The Truth Tempest
Alvar Hanso is Big Brother
Now, the next thing I have been considering for quite some time.
Not only the big players are placements. So, too, are a few of our rather able friends here. Some of these faceless avatars are LOST ARG members themselves.
Now, for me to say who... where would the fun be in that?
Regardless, there -are- plants in our community. For even with a leader, there needs to be that one person in the crowd to start clapping first.
Who is that person?
I'm not going to say it is the rather cunning JustWillow. To say that would be unfounded for certain.
Right?
We were all rather close to getting the last clue anyway, remember?
Though, I gave up after
"gain a light sequence".
And low and behold.
Who. That is for you to find out.
-The Truth Tempest
The true aim of the Hanso Foundation is to create a game of alleged corruption and a show of such mass intrigue that people work together in mass communities until every person of every creed and race is working together on figuring out the clues.
In the end, the Hanso Foundation in conjunction with the Dharma Project will have brought about world peace. Its ultimate goal.
What is the best way to unite people?
Give them all an enemy to fight.
-The Truth Tempest
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”
— Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Göring during the Nuremberg Trials
The LOST Experience.
Telling people they are being attacked, denouncing the pacifists, and exposing the world to danger.
Wow two pods in one day : )
all these theories... I've just come up with 10 million more in AIM chat with my sister... my head is swimming. I'll see if I can gather them together in a coherant form and post later. It's nearly midnight here and I am rather tired.
Well, the pilot was the guy from Alias. If we're throwing around wild theories, maybe the CIA was tring to infiltrated DHARMA/Hanso/the island and that's why the plane was headed there.
SweetScrapper
fitz/traci - yes, the compass heading that Fenry (Fake Henry) gave was 3-2-5.
Another idea around the planned/unplanned crash could be that someone on the plane-not necessarily the pilots, but someone else who could fly a plane-was in on getting the plane to the island. Usually, in a cross-ocean commercial flight, there are at least 3 in the cabin: pilot, co-pilot, and a "third seat" (can't remember the term just now). When Jack opens the cockpit, one of these falls out; the pilot is still strapped in; where's the third? where are the flight attendants? This being said, what if
**possible spoiler for Season 2**
Kelvin lured Desmond away from the button intentionally (he was rather obvious about the tear in his suit and unmasking so close to the hatch) so that the button wouldn't be pushed, making the island visible so the plane could land at the Others' "home". Desmond goes all nuts on Kelvin and knocks him out/kills him(?) and gets back to the hatch in time to push the button. Perhaps it wasn't Desmond's failure to push the button that crashed the plane, but pushing the button while the plane was "coming in" caused the crash?
Just my wack-o theory for that...
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Fitz/Traci: Correct. The compass heading is 3-2-5. Fenry also said that Michael wouldn't be able to find his way back and yet poor Desmond went in a circle for two weeks. Seems that at 3-2-5 there is a one-way break in the EM "screen". Also, could "home" be The Barracks mentioned in Pearl Orientation? The Others had Jack and company on Pala Ferry pier, but it seems awfully close to the dump site for the Pearl notebooks. There are far too many tubes for it to be a collection site. I guess it's possible that when your tour of duty is done at the Pearl they don't care if you see the notebooks are dumped. Your part of the experiment is over. On the other hand, you wouldn't continue to be good fodder for further testing if you thought it was all for naught.
Traci: Yeah, I've heard that sloth theory before. Interesting that DJ Dan has a picture of just such a creature on his site...
crossfade - I think that term applies to a pilot that is flying "off duty". The term I was thinking of, but couldn't remember is the "flight engineer". Here is a nice page for general information: U.S. Dept. of Labor.
butch - welcome and good luck! I feel for the new comers and the amount of information to wade through. If you look through the comments, there are a couple of good alternate blogs set up to help new comers "catch up". Here's one that Lena set up and some folks from this blog are keeping up: Hanso101
"Dead Head" is a term used by airlines when a flight crew travels on a plane (not working) to another location so that they can board the plane they will be working on.
no new clues today? Good, maybe I can get some work done!
Kat: Oh, no! Not even. Mike and Walt are still as stuck as everyone else. Probably Fenry is sending them "home". Although it's intersting that if he still wanted Walt and/or Michael why bother putting them in the boat at all? Personally, after Ana and Libby, Michael can disappear again for awhile. Can't stand the sight of him now.
> Crossfade said...
> I'm convinced the others are
> good guys. I think they were
> scared of Walt's powers and sent > him off.
You mean Walt Disney?
oo7, traci, etc:
&&&&SPOILER&&&&&&
Kelvin definitely lured Desmond away so that Flight 815 would be drawn to the island. It was planned. Kelvin's death was accidental -- if he's really dead. Desmond didn't really stay long enough to make sure.
&&&&&& END SPOILER &&&&&&&
And we've seen a whole web of people, many of them directly linked to Hanso (Walt's stepfather, for example) who were instrumental in getting various "losties" onto that particular flight.
"Everything Happens for a Reason."
Anyone get their inivite yet?
This is like waiting for a clue from P...
Davif, you should have the invites be anagram's or faceless men pictures...those that figure it out get in...LOL
Peace & Namaste!
Or to the person(s) with the coolest avitars!!!
I liked your beastie one...but this one is cool too Crossfade!
2 Legit 2 Quit!
I like your theory Punchy Sue, they interconnectedness is only apparent to us...and th eonly people that have noticed that they have crossed paths, in a way, is Sawyer and Jack...
Peace & Namaste
Using all of them to interact in "real" life makes it easier for the experiment to be acceptable in their minds as "real," It is hard to explain...
Peace & Namaste
It is like the waking dream reference...they needed to make the experiment as "real" as possible...if they do not beleive that they are in a real place they will wake from the dream, so to speak, hence waking dream...the Others could be failed experiments...which could also be the incident that shut down Dharma...
I don't think HANSO had anything to do with the losties landing on the island.
I think that shortly after the "Incident" HANSO dropped/closed the DHARMA initiative. I think the others revolted under the experiments which lead to the incident.
the plane crash was an accident and one that probably caused HANSO some headaches because they are worried that someone should find the island and expose them and what was going on there.
the fact that so many of the lead characters lives intertwined is just to show how interconnected we all are to one another in life. However it is less than a dozen character's out of all the losties that have been shown to have any previous connection. (remember there are something around 30 other losties which the show has not really shown us or told us about).
if the plane had not crashed, they would have continued on never taking any note or rememberance of the others and therefore not known if they ran into eachother again sometime.
How many times have you seen someone who looked vaguely familiar but cannot place where you have seen them before?
Ever hear of the theory of 6 degrees of seperation? That everyone on the planet knows or is connected to one another through no more than 6 other people?
the password is breaking straing
what you are seeing is old.
sorry, "breaking strain"
I am very thankful for the word verification though...have you ever gone over to ITE?...it gets like a warzone...this is the most civil place for the game IMHO!!
Scott - Kelvin Joe Inman
Before his arrival to the island
Worked with Kate's stepfather in the Gulf War
Manipulated Sayid into torturing fellow soldiers under the pretense that they required an Arabic speaking person to translate. Later on in One of Them it is found out that Inman speaks Arabic himself
Gave Sayid money so he could leave Iraq for good
Claimed to be a spy for ten years when talking to Desmond. Most likely worked for the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), as the tape shown to Sayid says "property of the DIA".
Said he left because "...men followed my orders."
Claimed that after leaving the service, he joined the Dharma Initiative, saying bitterly "Namaste, Thank You, and Good Luck"
From Lostpedia.com
justajoopster - your cache/cookies probably got cleared which is why you had to start over. when she asked if you can see "this" type yes, and then she will ask for password breaking strain (hey I screwed up my typing too - it happens)
I rarley post in the ITE, it is too adversarial. Ya'll all are my favorites.
ITE is "in the experience" the site with the speaker - just shorthand
I have enjoyed reading the many theories about Lost, DHARMA, P, DJDan and Hanso (more I am sure); it has been very enlightening.
Just wish there was some proof to back some of it up. So many possibilities. I agree that there are no where near enough answers coming from all the clues we are being fed. Usually just more questions. (like the show I guess).
Surely it won't be long now before something important is answered.
Just praising you guys for the interesting theories and having a rant at TPTB. Sorry to bore you.
i agree belly0. ITE has higher tension than an episode of Lost.
I also got a smile at the letter verification box on this site. I get frustrated too.
Its not that bad really but when the site was experiencing problems it was the biggest god dam pain in the neck that existed.
(fires laser gun) LOL n1 belly
I just received my email invite!!!
Congrats Thrasher!!!! I am not surprised.
:D
Cool
my groundbreaking theory was that the others were test subjects of the DHARMA initiative, but were left on the island when the DI was abandoned so they wouldn't tell authorities what was really going on. This would also explain their "powers".
i guess we'll see in 9 years.
Wiz, I have to tell you, your avitar is freaking me out!!!
David Penuel is INTENSE
I can change it if you wish. I wasn't sure about it when I chose it. What do you think?
minipulator: but what century?
2015
3015
4015
5015
etc.....
Sometimes I can't even make out what some of the letters are. But yes. You are right. It was nice to know "I" am not the only one who has bother.
for that mater the first year numbers could be anything....
2115, 2215, ...
p.s. I also hate the verification box and have a hard time telling the difference between the j and i
(so of course this verification involved both of those letters - i think)
<<---- checking out theory site
Wiz, no it is cool but it throughs me for a loop when I am reading the post when I am away...it is cool...where did oyu get an annimated one?
I would have been first on the DJ Dan thread had my word not been 12 letters long...007Surge beat me to it...
crossfade, thrasher - what are ya'll specialties or area of expertise?
I remember the letters causing you to not get first. By 12secs or something. lol.
Whenever I come across a site that has a cool moving image on it I right click the image and save it. That is how I got the skull. MAny years ago. When I realised I could put the avatar up I chose that as I thought it was different. I was going to put up a wizard.
Noble,
I am leaning towards Religion/Philosophy/Mythology
How about you!
Wiz, I liek it over a wizard, that is too easy, I had up for like an hour the logo from Thrasher Magazine, thought I would keep mine in game referenced...
Off to the research blog...
Peace & Namaste
Mini - assuming you are Avery lewis. good use of Heuristics
I got one too. Was exciting. I just try and make sense of things. Don't like unanswered questions. And I have a few talents Maths/chemistry/physics/philosophy. I guess it kand of depends on how the research blog will work.
HELP! how do i get a link to show in my comment and actually be linkable??
i meant clickable...
thrasher - my only expertise is the law which I am sure will have nothing to do with the show or the game (other than natural law) so never tried for a researcher spot. Besides, i am SUPPOSED to be working . :D
Congrats Wiz!
can't seem to get to thelostexperienceresearch.com
I see you're already chatting about the Research Blog. We'll say more later in a post within the next week. To everyone that's reading right now...Know that we HATED "making the cuts" (as stupid as "making the cuts" sounds). We really leaned towards building diversity into the team and in the end it came down to some really tough calls. We do have a long list of alternates in case people decline the offer or end up fizzling out. Also, it is important to remember that we ALL LEAN ON EACH OTHER all the time. The Research Team is no good without everybody else playing this game.
Okay...2 cents complete.
ooohh, now you've done it crossfade! you said the evil words "decompile flash"
BTW...it is
thelostexperienceresearch.blogspot.com
and we won't link to it on this site until we post about it.
thanks admin.
Uh-oh! Crossfade. Tsk, tsk. I'm with noblelawyer...
"decompiling flash" is generally considered to be associated with obtaining advanced "clues" and should have nothing to do with "research".
Crossfade,
Regarding the PDF we sent... We trust you "within those standards". If we decide a post is "out of bounds"...meaning...too un-game related, we'll edit and offer a reason for our actions via an email to thelostexperienceresearch@gmail.com (the researcher's new email address)
Yes. New email address to go with the blog. We had to share the love.
LOL crossfade
Minipulator,
Yeah. I expect the comments on the new blog to be just as much of a contribution to the game as the posts. The posts are really just a different type of conversation starter. from what we have going on over hear. It will keep topics more organized and direct.
Similiar to a message board but it gives to Bloggers a little more freedom to expand on their ideas but also more responsibility for crafting posts that are of value. There are so many dead end topics on Message Boards and we are hoping to really stay focused on the most pertinent stuff.
yakobus1,
So...do we have a deal?
Yes. Basically where do we start? And thanks admin. Do we just throw a list of categories in there and people can divide themselves. I guess to begin with, looking at the blogs by say... lena, put them in and that is a building block.
Antecedent,
Your question is a good one. I'm going to let you guys pow-wow about that and handle it on your own. Contributors might want to do an email exchange within thelostexperienceresearch@gmail.com inbox (I listed the invitees for you there) and start a discussion about that.
We would have made assignments but interests were so diverse...gosh...my mind was vexed. We couldn't box people in. Make sense?
I forsee someone sending an email to the group email address directed to other contributors saying something like: "I'm working on a post about D20. Does anybody have anything they want to add?" Wait a day. Gather info. Craft post. Post it. Read comments. Edit post. Etc.
Probably a topic by topic deal.
Kyle had a good idea but it was too message boardish and made my head hurt. I don't want it to be THAT organize. I want it to be organic based on where the game is leading us.
Kyle suggested the following 20 categories that could be a good springboard for ideas but not so much a framework:
Lost Helpdesk [help with brower/blogging/support issues]
Lost Advertisement [place to post stuff found on random advertisements]
Lost characters [backgrounds on each character, their interconnections]
Lost island [trying to find it/what's on it/what we know about it so far]
Lost Mythology [the 'visions', Hurley bird, black smoke/nanites, monster, etc...]
General Mythology [Greek/Roman, etc...]
Chemistry
Physics
Mathematics
Anthropology/Sociology
History
Literature [about literature references]
DJ Dan update blog [about updates to site relevant to game]/[about DJ Dan and Tonya]
Retrievers of Truth update blog [about updates to the site that are relevant to the game]/[research on the Verizon people]
The Hanso Foundation update blog [about updates]/[research on execs and employees and Joop]
Gary Troup [research on Gary Troup and his books]
Enzo Valenzetti [research on Enzo Valenzetti and his equation]
IRC help [help for the #lostclueteam IRC channel. How to get in, how to register, etc...]
Podcast [separate blog for TLEC podcasts, for dissecting DJ Dan's podcasts, anything podcast related]
Persephone [research on her, everything about her hacks, etc...]
Wizardry,
Start with what you think is most relevent. What is an idea that you have seen discussed in the comments that needs to come to the forefront of this experience. One example would be the timeline. Somebody needs to post the timeline on the research blog. That required research and is very valuable but hard to find for casual players. Another example is maybe the tangential stuff...
Get the idea?
Other ideas of where to start...
Research discussions related to the analysis of the semantics of each of Persephone's messages. How have they changed? Can we determine if we are still hearing from the original P? Can we ascertain if she is really who she says she is? Can we infer her motives or current situation? How is she affiliated with DJDan? What role are the Verizon message boarders playing?
Some of these are tough questions but I think there are answers out there...
Thanks for clearing it up admin. I foresee a very busy and enlightening weekend.
Phew, what a catch up... haven't re-freshed since I first loaded the page, but congrats to those who got on the research blog... I'll be checking that out later :D
Devondude - LMAO!!! (when I read your (both) posts)
devondude:
Last ten mins was something eh. Some tough competition though. Spain seemed on form.
Sorry, sorry and sorry again. No place for football here.
I would like to apologise as I was one of them that did not put spoiler warnings in. There was so much talk about it that I didn't think but you are right devondude. More than right. It is courteous at least but can spoil the experience of the Lost series for those who are behind. So please remember. (myself included of course).
Although brackets are not really proper grammar I find it works. I guess I am just lazy.
LMAO = laughing my ass off
ROTFLMAO is rolling on the floor laughing my ass off. It happened to me once on these comments where I was literally hysterical so that is what I put.
If you do not know what an abbreviation is you can search on google and be pretty sure it will be near the top of the list.
Thanks lab-tech!
I whole-heartedly second your comments about this being a community effort. We need everyone's help and input. A handful of people cannot do this alone. This is the best group of people working well together. Keep up the great work.
Just because a few of us are off doing some side things does not mean that we will not be active in the game and on the main thread, we need everyone to work together to play this game...Live Together Die Alone!!!
We welcome all comments and insight to our findings...
Peace & Namaste
ideas for research blogs (other than those mentioned): yin/yang, parent/child relationships, Christianity (ie more specific than 'faith')... I'm sure I'll think of others
Frenchie - I am going to be coming to you for a lot of philosophy stuff as well as religion...it is kind of cool how deeply the faith runs in some of the characters (Locke, Eko) and not at all in others (Sawyer, Jack)
Nice pic Lost luvr!!
I know my sugestions are a lot more show based, but anyway... there is at least the Hanso logo which is reminscient of YinYang which could link back to their use of Namaste... maybe religion as a whole could be explored... Hanso's use of it for one...
dunno whether to post in the research blog yet or not... was just going to say Wiz can add hole4 and the Verizon sites to his list of unexplained things. I know on the front of this blog there is the transcript of the original phone message, there are the DJDan podcast transcripts lena has hosted, Hugh on Kimmel transcript on this blog front page... are there transcripts of any audio within clues in an easy to access place (for a 101 catch up purpose)? Or is it sufficient to have them with their relevant clues on this blog?
Good evening everyone! Just getting on here, had computer prob today but all is well now.
Reading the last comment that lavenda posted: Feel free to MAKE me develope a blog for any subject you all feel important. LOL
I dont mind at all, but do ask that I not be the only one working on it!! LOL
I know how to whip up a blog pretty fast and have no life LOL, so if ya want me to create a blog about something, fell free to tell me.
Lena
I think you make a bunch of sense. I am currently working on supporting my "war of the worlds and DJDan" theory. Was in the bathtub thinking about it just a bit ago, and have more to research. Boy, they sure know how to keep me thinking dont they.
We arbitrarily put Joop as being born in 1901 simply by going by 105 years. We have no real proof of his birth year. There is a ? by his name.
You do make a very valid point, fitz66. How did you arrive at Joop being 63 when Hanso found him?
Howard - thank you! I've been trying to figure out where I'd heard of that for sooo long! That was a pretty good series too.
Devondude - I LOL (literally) over your post (the one with the ()'s). :D
Congrats to everyone who "made the cut", and I'm looking forward to seeing what ya'll find over there. I have to say that for once, I'm glad it was a slow day, since I couldn't get in to check on things. There was still plenty of reading to do in comments, but that's always fun. Not much to add tonight, just wanted to get one post in.
Oh - and congrats to Thrash for getting in the first post!
Howard, you're not the only one who thinks the Valenzetti equation is at the center of this.
I started a blog dedicated to forcing the Hanso foundation to give the public access to the equation... or at the very least give us their side of the story about what they're doing with it.
http://findvalenzetti.blogspot.com/
If you've done some research on it and would like to share it with us, email me and we'll work it into a post on the blog.
oo7surge.
You made the cut.
Checked your email?
*gives Michelle a hug*
Namaste.
Great work, everyone. I believe today was very succesful in furthering the Cause.
-The Truth Tempest
Ah man!
I live in Dallas, Texas as well!
Go Texans!
-The Truth Tempest
Oh yeah... You -all- sound very familiar. I have a feeling I have met at least one of you before. o_o;
Anyone ever been to Lewisville, Flower Mound, or Highland Village?
(and, hey, there is a dog in that shark! He saw the outline! lol j/k)
-The Truth Tempest
louie1:
I agree with you about the lazy people being efficient thing.
I assume others have noticed DJDan has changed the date of the next podcast? it's now due 6/21
crud, I usually check things out before I post... still seem to post the wrong thing. Completely missed the hello, but the diagram pic beside the mushroom cload down the bottom links to syblymonal as well and has blinking green spots... tell me it didn't do that before? I clicked and tried a few things but nothing seemed significant
I see nothing in the page source except they haven't properly coded the img of the fallout that links to sublymonal
can Persephone hack sublymonal and change the sound loop??? ARGH!!!!
I think we are being directed to look here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_O_notation
I noticed that too on DJDan site. More sublymonal stuff. Can't wait (sarcasm).
The picture here I think is new. I have no idea what it is. Other pictures underneath link to sublymonal.com. Not sure if that is deliberate or not. (looking at the code seems to suggest it is a mistake - if you know HTML that is)
And the podcast is ages yet. :(
wiz, I think it's an old pic, I just don't recall it blinking before. It's also the negative of this wiki Braveo fallout pic, with the addition of BigO
Devondude:
The trainers were already there. (surprised they haven't all been bought yet)
There are a number of words that have already been in use for a while as passwords for the Sublymonal box. See here. I wonder if there are new ones. I cannot remember if entering djdan did this before but I suspect so.
rorschach, I didn't get that when typing hello at syblymonal!
nice one rorschach. "hello". Should be obvious really seeing as though this is where the site linked from DJDans. I will check it out.
rorschach:
What sequence sounds like three letters? Not sure what you mean.
Thanks for telling me what the picture is lavenda.
typing djdan did that a few days ago.
as for the hello game... I assumed it was another sublymonal add and didn't go through it the first time. Not sure what sequence you are refering to rorschach, it's only going through what I type (with four guys down the right corner being OBEY)
If you mean the "four" men in bottom right corner then it is OBEY nothing new.
It is BigD not BigO
Maybe we need to figure out some password to go into the "hello" game seeing as though DJDan mentions "hello" on his site. Maybe not though.
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from sam on ITE, you go to the hello thing and type in BigD there is the podcast. Iceland, Tonya is back, mention of DJDan's wife
O and N do seem to be the same. I don't think it was always this way because I played about with this quite a lot and never noticed.
Also "hello" seems to just give the the same as typing tongue. Do not know if we a chasing nothing here or not. Has hello always worked anyone?
in getting to this podcast I noted the old on is still there (type 108 on sublymonal). How can we save these?
Podcast is there and before due date. Hmm.
And you must use BigD and not bigd
oooh, just noticed... when talking about Iceland and crimes they mention Bjork walking down the street, Tonya asks if she is wearing her duck outfit... IT WAS A SWAN BJORK WORE!
And this seriously dates the podcast... they mention Persephone's hack of the Vik institute page!!!
I will record if you like but I am not sure where I can post the mp3 for you to link to. Anyone?
funny that you say Tonya sounded like a speech generator... did Persephone sound like that on TLEClues latest podcast??? ;)
So will there be a change to the conpiraspy of the month page?
Read comments above for what to do. I have the MP3 but I do not know where to post it.
DOes anyone have the podcast posted yet? I have no sound at work...
another Tom...
devon, LOL... well at least they didn't embed someone's name in the flash file this time (or have they? LOL)
wiz, would the blog guys put it up somewhere? There'll probably be someone on later who will know where to put it (getting a bit braindead here, it's heading for 11:30pm here)
ooh, my word verification is d-j-m-e-s-p-y... DJ me spy
You can hear the DJDan podcast here
I did the file so you could hear it without going through the rubbish.
I do not know how to upload the file so you guys can download it though. If anyone knows?
a direct link to wiz's upload http://content.bolt.com/uploads3/audio/streams/9/3/7/4/7/5/937475/music/1150464356096.mp3
wiz if that's not cool I'll delete the comment. Thanks for putting it up... going insane listening to al that sublymonal stuff...
I figured you could link directly to the file I put onto bolt.com but couldn't see it in a hurry. I am at work and getting rather busy.
Thanks vey much for putting the direct link though.
Just wanted to make sure everybody saw this on Inside the Experience:
Congrats to JustWillow - the first person to tell me about "light sequence again." Type it in at MHA and watch what happens! I'll go more into detail about how the password was found, etc... in my Week Six Round-Up.
Thanks. long-time lurker, first time poster. It looks to be some sort of memory game that promises prizes (an Apollo bar) after 42 correct entries but it automatically screwed me up after 16 correct entries.
:D makes it easier for people to save to harddrives if they want to
ok, off to bed. Have fun everyone
m. rolfe g. - Welcome! The light sequence again clue was run through in clue #51. It gave us what DHARMA stands for by giving you one word for each of the numbers you complete at 4 correct you get "Department", at 8 correct-"of Heuristics", etc. Idaho Girl was even kind enough to get to 108 for us and found that.... nothing happened. So, 42 is the mark to hit, but if you'd rather just read about it, check clue #51.
completely-confused - in the source code on one of the sublymonal pages, there is a comment that says "Look at the plane - P". On the tail of the plane in one of the looping images is "108". We put that in to get the first podcast.
I'm going to listen to the podcast again... I think I heard a couple items worth mentioning...
Ok, listened again, and from what I haven't seen mentioned yet:
He refers to the line from the letter that says "prisoner in a hall of mirrors" - I think this may just be referencing the symbology, but could be important. I know that in the series, they often use mirror images in their shots. Also, could be leading us to use a mirror image for one of the clues(?) Perhaps along the lines of how Da Vinci wrote his notebook... don't know, just stood out to me.
DJ Dan says he refered to Tonya as "a Young 30" - if we want to read into this, we can use it as another clue that Tonya is Persephone. In Greek mythology, Persephone is also known as the Kore or "Young Maiden".
Alright, back to work with me... catch up with ya'll l8r.
Attention All!
New post on Research Page...please visit and discuss...
in the hello game, type in "BigD", and hit enter - this should start the podcast. If not, you can listen to it at wizard's link above (thanks wiz!)
Before I forget - also noticed that there are no commercials on this one either.
Correct. No commercials. And why is Tanya acting so weird??? Is it a recording that went wrong? I gues we will try and find out. Where is lena?
Just thought I would allow people to download the other podcast from sublymonal by typing in 108. I hadn't been able to download to computer before so I thought I would record it and do it that way. Hope it helps someone.
DJDan podcast 2
KATAMARMOM:
Thanks for lena info.
With regard to podcasts out of order. Even though DJDan mentioned that "last week" he mentioned Tanyas age It doesn't need to mean that it must have been the previous podcast we got. Maybe we will never hear the age one. I am sure we do not hear everything that they do on the podcasts. It seems to me that what we are hearing is only selected parts of the podcast. (sure I saw that mentioned before but I could be wrong).
In any case, I DO agree that podcasts are out of order (but I am beginning to think that it is not a simple case of they are backwards). This new podcast seemed to be the old Dan back. SHUTDOWN and conspiracies and all. If we see the conspiraspy page update on his site it will confirm this is a recently recorded one I think.
Hope that made sense.
I think there is definitely something going on. It would be A LOT EASIER to determine if DJDan/Tanya have changed motives etc due to outside forces (esp Hanso) IF we knew the correct order. I find that part very frustrating becuase we are all doing a lot of work on this but getting no where concrete. Hopefully this latest one might somehow clear it up.
The only thing I know for sure is that the podcasts are current...one of them mentioned the Redsox winning the world series a year and a half ago, which was Oct. 24, 2004...so they are current...
5 points to the one that knows what my new avitar means...
Peace & Namaste!!
There is a hint in this post...
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Okay, It means Namaste!
thrasher76:
Pic is "thirdeye"
In other words ones higher intelligence. I guess reaching your third eye can be achieved through YOGA or such things.
5 points to Welovcov, it also means Om, it is a Yoga thing...
Speaker mentioned something might happen today, and he already mention the new podcast, so keep your eyes open today!!
Wellovcov, I will deduct those 3 cents from your 5 points!!
welovecov - it was discovered on ABC news that one of the Senior VPs of marketing said that TLE would give insight into the history and possibly the future of the show. In the last several clues, we have seen more and more connection to the show. He did state that you don't have to watch the show to play the game, so I don't think anything from the show will "solve the game" for us, but there is a definite link for those interested in the show. Also, keep in mind that the first clue was gotten from a commercial that aired during the show...
That said, I agree that the characters in the experience need to be understood, and hopefully that will give us more insight into the game and a better idea as to "who" our players are.
The LOST Experience reminds me of games you used to play when you were a kid and really bored.
You would be walking along and say "skip over cracks in the sidewalk", then after a while "don't touch the black spots, they're lava", and so on and so forth.
Making up rules as you go along in a game that can't be won until you decide the game is simply over.
-The Truth Tempest
Shuffleboarders Represent
I thought you guys did great. I am enjoying these. Way to go!
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