Clue #111 - Fragment Code "theflashlight"
Fragment Code "theflashlight" is now working on hansoexposed.com. We first mentioned this code in Clue #109 when it was found in this Jeep ad written on the curb to the right of the vehicle. The video fragment is of Mittlewerk saying, "without allowing for any more suffering than is absolutely necessary. (sigh)"
Thanks to dazzedelf, Bryan, and ib4uc for emailing us this important update!
Thanks to dazzedelf, Bryan, and ib4uc for emailing us this important update!
159 Comments:
Yeah.. new code.. where oh where is 42
first?
well, 3rd will do!
TOP 10!!
and why release a new one when there is one still lurking out there waiting to be found....
BTW-- Congrats to those involved in finding that illusive #29!!!!
Dang it! I was trying to add this to the previous post and David beat me to it by making a totaly new thread!!! GADZOOKS!!!!
so still missing #42.
the TWM clips are getting creepier and more forboding the more we get.
Yeah!
so.. if we put in words from random previous clues, we just might get lucky???? it is just a theory, but seems they are running out of unique strange alpha numeric ideas.....hmm
It took my 30 minutes to figure out what y'all meant by TWM! LOL
I Think this goes after gllvb8...
Reposting -
Ok - just called Tysons Corner to see if I could get any info on the time and location in the mall were the Apollo event was going to be held and no one knows anything. Left a message with the PR lady. I wonder Apollo meant the Galleria and not the original Tysons Corner.
I got money on parthenogenisis being a code word.
I've actually been putting in the word at least once almost everyday since Nanite was used as a code.
so theflashlight is 45 and 44 is still out there right
anybody want to help protest Apollo @ Tysons Corner???
42 is the new illusive frag...
cause theflashlight didn't work when i had 43of44
2costa: we're missing #42
oh ok what was 42 release date
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my theory is that they made the leaderboard to make us the experiment
thats when people starte4d hoarding clues and such
I have 44 of 45 ib4uc
just like on the island
we all do noble,i was refering to it not working earlier
Topic deviation...anyone from Dallas planning on attending the Apollo distribution? I know it's listed as tentative on the Apollo website, so I was thinking that if we had some folks express an interest, it might persuade TPTB to make it a definite event.
Fasten I can bet that they will be there. I also think that there has been enough of an out cry from those in the towns that were previously listed, Philly, Chicago, that they are going to add those back in as well....
Awesome gift there Lhorse!
It is Glyphtastic!
wow, brain cloud passing. thanks idaho girl.
whadya say David? Y'all in on the Candy Bar Posse here in Big D?
lhorse - that is so sick.
Ihorse007-Awesome bro, that pie looks nansty, but the sprinkles make me want to eat it...LOL
I almost threw up when I re-read my post...Now I have that image stuck in my head, and hell no, I will not eat that sh@!
noblelawyer: I typed the wrong numbers, ooops. I also have 44 of 45.
just trying to help ib4uc.
lhorse - I e-mailed your link to all my friends ;)
hansolow - I'm going to Knit an afghan of the glyphs now using your blog as a pattern ;)
All right! # sixty-something!
repost from last thread:
uniquin said...
I'm a nanotechnology researcher..
Cool! I'm such a wanna be. But science isn't my field, just something I like to read and speculate about.
The article could start with general definitions of nanotechnology including fictional uses from other science fiction genres. I found a great defintion in the Encyclopeadia Galatica online.
Then I was thinking it would be nice to take each of the areas Hanso is working in (from their old site) and describe how nanotechnology could be playing a role. Only I don't know enough to do that for all the areas. Nor do I know if such speculation would be helpful on a *research* blog.
So those are my current ideas? Any feedback?
Because, hansolow, it takes the game out of it.
Once someone else has done the work and everyone knows he code, it becomes a race to see who can refresh the stats page the fastest and longest waiting for the fragment to be released.
If they released the fragment FIRST who ever finds the glyph first has the change to enter the code in first.
Pretty simple concept.
I agree with Bellyofdesire's last post. I think that putting out the code without simultaneously releasing the fragment makes having a leaderboard pointless. Why call it leaderboard. I should be luck of the draw board.
HansoLow said...we already knew "theflashlight" would be one of the next codes.
NO we didn't. We thought it was a clue, not a code.
Sorry Hansolow... I should have read back more... Oops.
BTW - I don't care about being on the leaderboard I enjoy the hunt for the codes (like the admin's hunt) or speaker's search that he had done
I'm butting in on the conversation I know but I was just thinking about how hard it is to design a game that Dwights, Micheal's, and Jim/Pam's all like to play. I'm much more involved than during Acts 1 and 2 because it's more accessible to me now.
Although...I'm not keeping up with the fragments in he.com. I figure I'll just watch someone else's sequence and enjoy the theorizing on this board. To me, right here is where the game is. :-D
No, that's true, I guess by "we" I meant those of us who once it didn't work thought it was a clue.
where are people thinking "theflashlight" goes in the video sequence? Does it fit after xwzw?
You want a puzzle?
www.thelostexperience.com
Some dude has hacked the blog and so far hasn't done anything "bad" except for flipped the logo and post some wierd messages with letters in his sig that most people think will be a clue to something.
Check it out.
I was a bit nervous about it at first but now I'm in "cautious optimism" mode.
Okay - Tysons Corner update
The PR person for the mall - knows nothing of this event. She reserched and realized it was part of the whole LOST thing and she's not sure what's going on. She's gonna research a bit more and see if she can find anything more. Told her if I heard something I would let her know too.
She afraid that someone's gonna be walking around the mall and get mobbed. I somehow doubt that would happen - but they are really touchy with sercurity sometimes.
the hacker over thelostexperience is interesting. I doubt it has something to do with the game, but an interesting twist none the less.
To the admins of this site:
Thanks for making this site awesome and fun to be on. It is far better than any of it's competitors.
Ora,
How do you know these things? Reliable source?
Kylelane said...
Gentlefolk, if you're going to complain about something, complain about moving the Apollo giveaway to Tysons Corner!! Requires actual driving on 495!! Are they kidding? Taking a metro into DC for Apollo and drinks with friends is a pleasant excursion. Spending two hours in traffic to go to a friggin MALL in ths suburbs is a grueling test of my Lost-mania-hood. "Can't--tolerate--another--diplomatic--license--plate--driver----"
Actually, Tysons is a very nice place, if you haven't been in a while. They have some really upscale eatries in the new wing - very posh. Place has come a long way from being a one floor open air mall in the 70's to an upscale shopping center.
where are people thinking "theflashlight" goes in the video sequence? Does it fit after xwzw?
Gang! I think there are many ways people are enjoying this game. But I can say this, because I have been here from day one, and I was through it all with you guys. This phase of the game is not as fun or captivating as WE wished it to be. The real world stuff is nice and TLEC and Speakers way of having a clue hunt was more indiciative to what we are used to in the other phases. But I think that getting a clue is great IF it leads to the code. But when the CODE is there and doesn't work, why go back and try it? That is the major beef here. A code is released but doesn't work? That speaks of poor design. All this and a quarter may get you a cup of coffee at Dunkin Donuts! IMHO!!!!! never forget that part!!!
is anyone engaging in other discussion besides this *%&#@%! debate that has been going on way too long now!
Let it go people!
Hi there,
has anyone seen Javi's new posts? Two videos, one yesterday, one today. Unfortunately even though I have totally uptodate Quicktime software it gives me error messages, only get sound.
Anything interesting?
ps
away for the day (9pm here now): Tapdawg ROCKS!
Ora,
Why gives us clues and not back them back? Starting to smell like a liar.
Thanks for reply's about the frag location.
regadless of how this game is played and what phase we are in I would not be playing or enjoying this game if not for this community!
kyle - no prob. I'm hoping to make the Tysons Corner one - depends on the time, and it seems no one knows. Pick the wrong time and there's and it's a rush hour nightmare. Trying to think of the ABC type links to Tysons and all I can come up with is the Disney Store. But then ABC owns ESPN so why the change? What else is at Tysons (really an odd location to have this)? There used to be a Warner Bros store - it closed years ago. Disney is still my only connection.
I've looked at other boards and if TLEC didn't exist I probably wouldn't post anything anywhere. It definitely would have been a different game.
o.k I'm either going to do some work or check more into this hacker thing on TLE board.
will check back later tonight.
odds are on the hacker think ;)
OMG! My WV: is aclue
jaylegend: Melissa Lossa finished it! I haven't heard from her about what's on the back but she's got the front up on her blog. Where is that?...
Noblelawyer - You are right this is a fantastic community. One of the best parts for me is when there is a "spirited debate" and it does not get out of hand or turn into name calling. We can disagree on things people, but we all have the same common goal. Bringing down the Hanso Foundation! And having such a diverse group of people aimed at the same thing is amazing to me.
I too wish I could be on the leaderboard and try hard to find things out for myself. And to echo Belly, you can't please everyone all the time!!! I wish I could find #42!!!
**GROUP HUG**
Idaho Girl - why do you think that is? I think they're just jealous. :)
Been looking over at TLE because of the hacker thing. Don't know if it's legit but the person signs each comment with a letter: A S M U I D O B N. Anagram maybe?
Found it!Melissa's blog about puzzle #3
Marcus, you are a GEM!
Chrisper, can't see any new stuff on Apollo since 8/18 changes. What do you reckon is new?
belly,
lurking a little...
:)
Oh, I was hoping for a sample of his voice. Does Javi have any on the site?
Two things:
1) I think this whole hacker thing at TLE.com is going to end up in them actually having been given a glyph by Rachel. Just my gut.
2) I really want to do a podcast this week. There is A LOT to talk about! It's just that right now is one of my busiest times of the year at work and I'm really pouring my heart into it. My heart is still in the podcasts too but I want to be careful not to let myself get spread too thin.
Who here is really following the TLE.com hacker drama?
Thanks again, Marcus, much appreciated.
Tried three browsers (Firefox, Netscape, IE), none gives me vid. Quicktime says it's up to date and that it's missing some software but that that is not available on its server. Weird.
About people on other boards not liking us...
I see it too guys. Let's just make sure that we don't get defensive about it. Just because they don't like us doesn't mean that we can't like them. I just want to encourage everyone who is "faithful" to this blog to do their best to be understanding of other people. So far, I haven't seen anybody being reactionary and I've been really thankful for that. You guys are awesome!
We may have done some things in the past to make us annoy people and I'm trying really hard to learn about what we did "wrong" and learn how to "fit in" better in the online community.
we would like to hear your theory hasolow
hansolow,
You're right, it is pretty obvious. But I think it's more fun letting Speaker be "Speaker". Don't you?
christine#2! i've missed you and your funny avatar!
Thanks, Marcus! The voice pattern sounds similar but the tones and emphases are different from DJ Dan. If he does DJ Dan he's putting on a character voice but it very well could be him.
I don't think he's Speaker because it would keep him too busy and he does have a job (or several) already. I think the amount of work for DJ Dan would be about right though IMHO.
hey admin, are you going to the dallas apollo giveaway?
belly,
I agree. I have some insight into how Rachel works and this feels like a glyph hunt. Although, I know that Rachel prefers for the glyphs to be found around the same time that they are released...but she ultimately doesn't have much say over how they are actually shared publicly.
This has "taking creative license" written all over it. :)
fasten,
I hope so. I'm waiting for the details to be released.
hi fasten!
amlocke,
Just read your comment...funny!
I think Speaker is Javi, but that is based soley on others opinions that I have seen. I have done no real investigating into his back ground....Hope that helps Hansolow!
Javi is Dj Dan. I have no idea who speaker is.
I'm with amlocke,
Speaker is Speaker
and
DJ Dan is DJ Dan!
Yes, but who is buried in Grant's tomb?
yeah and I am Christine! :)
Speaker is NOT DJ DAN!
Speaker being Speaker is the allure of "Speaker"....
i myself have tried to forget that this website
posted Rachel's true identity....
Marcus,
just checked again, my Quicktime is 6.5.2., When I click update it says it's the lastest version but just checked the website and there is V7!?! Gonna get that now.
Cheers.
ps My bet is on: Javi and Speaker, seperated at birth :)
....and if we all knew who he truly was, i'm sure
a bunch of losties would be hassling him to be a background
"do nothing sand mover" like Scott or Steve....or inserting
their opinions on someone else's creation....then again i watch
pro wrestling so reality is a blurred concept...
biotronx,
Yeah...I know I am watching TLE.com very carefully!
i thought loginal was a scrumtralescent word
I do not try and figure out the non-game identities of ingame characters.
I am following the hacker stuff on TLE carefully. I suspect that gee won't provide any more info. today though since he/she said phase 2 would come at a time of his/her choosing.
belly0fdesire said...
some ppl in the comments over at TLE.com figured it to stand for SUBDOMAIN... so it's probably going to be "http://(somthing).thelostexperience.com... just a guess...
By "some ppl", you mean me.
marcus - I think that even if you put in the right subdomain nothing would happend as I don't believe that the hacker has activated the subdomain yet. but that is just my guessing.
Lostpedian is a sad sad specimen.
Marcus_Isn't_Lost ;-) said...
I don't know who they are, but isn't there a possibility that they were given a glyph, like our Admin, and that's how they're choosing for the search to go?
Yep Marcus, that is the popular consensus ATM.
Hey Belly...I had an, "Oh yeah" moment with Hansolow's name over the weekend too...right before I fell asleep one night...sheesh huh:)!
Belly, ange - you are obviously not geeks if you didn't immediately pick up on the star wars reference in hansolow's name. ;)
DiggityDirge, I'll answer you,
It would be tres-creepy if this frag speaking of not .."allowing anymore suffering than is absolutely necessary," came after [with a frag or two in between obviously], ensuring to .."hit the precise genetic targets." TWM's big sigh meaning that he knows that there *will* be great suffering by the "subjects" after the genetic alterations, so let's not create any more agonizing affects then we absolutely have to, maybe? And give them comfy pillows on their long steamer-ship trip to the island too.
Ew. But just a thought, not necessarily the way it goes.
o.k. I'm heading for home. Bye.
IDAHO GIRL---
Everyone in the world.
Need I begin to list?
I like answering rhetorical questions. :)
i think 42 is tied to the sod off friend of mel does it better that never gave us a glyph
It's 00:15 here in England, so I assume TLE.com's local time is GMT.
Agreed Idaho Girl....but obviously our "Dr."TWM can, in the name of science. This is starting to remind me of The island of Dr. Moreau"......"Go to The House of Paaaaaain!" Yikes!
Also, I sort of fall in line with the theory that if you know your future, that you are doomed to make it happen. It would be funny for TPTB to end this whole thing with TWM actually starting a virus crisis and killing us all off. :-)
noblelawyer said...
Belly, ange - you are obviously not geeks if you didn't immediately pick up on the star wars reference in hansolow's name.
Uh oh! I caught on right away but didn't think I was that bad. Time for some personal reflection. ;-)
BTW, Melissa and I took this test. Anyone else want to give it a try between glyphs. I think Melissa was a 24% and I was 27%. Inner Geek
Chopsaw, because the he.com stats page shows the 42nd glyph still unpublished whereas the 45th one is...
www.hansoexposed.com/xml/statistics
Yeah, belly, I miss them also. It's just not the same but you gotta love the game!
Put me in the "I miss Rachel" camp. The video is interesting, but the game seemed more, I guess, personal, when we had her around.
I hope she comes back for the big finish. She does owe us some answers after all.
belly0fdesire said...
My score:
39.25049% - Major Geek
Belly: I stand in awe! :-D
Thanks too, Punchy Sue and boyfriend! :-D
Now we just need an updated quiz with Lost stuff and other new sci-fi thrown in.
Higher is geekier but the test is old and doesn't account for some forms of geekiness in my opinion. The question is how geeky do you want to be? Hmmm? Maybe we should send that to ask Javi?
Of course if we made up a newer quiz my score would be lower because I unloaded a lot of geek stuff at the garage sale this weekend: Star Wars pez dispensers, Dilbert plush desk top toys, and all my Riven-style, role-playing puzzle games. Can you imagine the geek score of the person that bought my stuff?
I'm not really less of a geek, just making room for more stuff. Right now I'm trying to hold myself back from buying all those neat Lost puzzles. Tapdawg and Melissa have really whetted my appetite to see more.
Betcha all feel better knowing that. ;-) I'll stop rambling now.
Hey peeps! Sorry I have been such a stranger but working on something REALLY BIG, but not clue wise.
Here is my latest pitch. Please visit this site.
And would twinkle, vexing, and idahogirl and a few old buddies from here please email me. My email is in my profile.
Thanks guys and believe me...this is GONNA ROCK!
18%. It's gotta be the Food Network and History questions b/cuz I know nothing about computers. Though I bet my score has gone up because of this game...I even bought HTML for Dummies when Persephone started all those hacks and I didn't know what the heck people were talking about with all the "hidden text in the source code" lingo.
Oooh, fasten! You started to learn HTMl because of an alternate reality game. I'd give you 20 extra points for that!;-)
Will do, Lena.
teehee. it's true twinkle. maybe we ought to start a poll...
"what's the geekiest thing you've done for the lost experience?"
tune in next week for more revealing insights on
Confessions of a Geek
I got 35% or so.
They should include "Do you criticize the continuity of a movie or television show?"
Second question, "Do you voice these complaints to the creators of the movie/tv show?"
Third: "Do you post these on the internet with great detail?"
I win.
See the Photo Shoppe pic of me in public with an Apollo Candy Bar sign.
That I made myself, btw.
kbarrick, i think you're right. you do win.
that was pretty awesome.
k.barrick: Those are great questions. Where's hte picture?
It was kinda embarrassing... only because they thought I was dangerous/creepy because of it. Creative empathy and self-deprication have always been my tools... Hate it when people think bad of me. Even if it's for a good reason.
The pic's on insidetheexperience.com. The only one that's not photoshopped. And I'll do it again!
"what's the geekiest thing you've done for the lost experience?"
I'd like to say that I made a papermache bobblehead of Mr. Beardy.
Well, I have in my heart anyway. :-)
capcom, that's HILARIOUS. i'm just glad it was a bobblehead and not a beanie baby.
who else has a TL-Geek story?
k.barrick: I see it! Fun!
The geekiest thing I've done was Star Trek related. For a job interview to prove I could teach, I introduced people to some basic Klingon.
At our house passive participation is the only approved form of geekiness, no dressing up, no conventions, no blogging, no talking theories and spoilers. (Although we did dress our 1 year old son up in a little Next Generation captain's uniform but that was given to us.)
I'm breaking our rules by being here, but it's been worth it. And I'm living vicariously through all you wonderful geeks who do like tapdawg and really get out there! :-)
BTW, I got the job.
HI TWINKLE! *waves*
Klingons don't say hello. Too polite. But I will. Hi, ange!
That's a great story Twinkle!
The next time things get slow, we can start a "Dream Geek" discussion.
Thanks, fasten. And good to know, kiddoc, that geeks only get better with age. :-) Night all!
'night Twinkle!
I'm a little stunned I got 35.50296% - Major Geek (but only by the skin of my teeth). Thankyou Star Wars, Trek (yes... ALL of them), LOTR etc etc.
I'm a Total Geek. They should have asked about my action figures. I have various Ray Harryhausen creatures, Ash from Army of Darkness, a talking Gollum, and my newest treasure...Shaun of the Dead!
Shaun of the Dead was freakin' hilarious!
42.4-major.
Helps to be old and +5 for being a girl!
Nice.
OMG! I'm 43.890% geeky... which makes me a major geek. I blame my husband who is MUCH more of a geek than I, but has encouraged my inner geek.
Most serious geek thing for LOST I have done is RIGHT NOW. I am doing a "special project" right now that is VERY geek like LOL I will get you all up to speed soon.
TeamLena
n.i.k. - True enough.
Lena - Looking forward to hearing about your "special project"!
If anyone is wondering, the TLE hacker has initiated phase 2.
There's a code in the source code.
does anyone think it's just their mods playing around with them over there?
By the way thanks everyone for your nice words and amazing spirits... it's what made me be able to get up early this morning to find that glyph... and ocne again I wasn't there alone. Unseen and SamG were there too and we all rooted each other on.... i just was the youngest and had the quickest eyes and feet to get to the glyph first :P hahah
O.K.
I just took the test and can (proudly) say that so far tonight, I have the highest score.
Super Geek - 52.09701%
But I have to believe that there are others who should score much higher than I did, due to some of the clues that have been worked out that I could never have done. I failed miserably on all the scientific questions, but everything else was very high. The other exception is Star Trek. The only one I have every liked was The Next Generation. I'm sort of a geek snob I guess. Too good for Star Trek, although the documentary Trekkies is amazing.
And as for the geekiest thing that I have done for Lost, I wrote a "love" song that can only truly be deciphered by a Lost fan. I have thought about emailing it to Admin and seeing if he will play it on one of the podcasts and if not, I'll just put it up on MySpace.
BTW - if you read this entire novel of a post, you are also a geek (not to mention that if you are on these comments at all, you definitely qualify for geekdom in some capacity).
Dave Chapelle is a genius! And anyway, what is the topic?
37.86982% Major Geek... tee heee that was fun.
Math for the sake of math... I posted on the MB that (if you do the math)
1/2 of .001 percent of the world is logged into HE.com... lol
"SIMNOBAUD" = "I AM BUDSON"??
hey everyone, check the HE stats page. Jeff Jensen is no longer there... but Tapdawg is! :-D
I'm here, just checking in before I head off to work... so what's the deal with this latest "code" from the TLE.com hacker?
Have you all checked e-mail yet?
Did anyone else get an email from Rachel this morning?
Morning Twinkle! You got it too? Making sure it's legit and then we'll start a new thread.
I don't know how my e-mail would have gotten out there if it isn't from he.com. I only gave that address to he.com and about 5 of you here.
I sent you my copy to compare. Nothng looks different yet on Apollo but I didn't dig deeply. Or it could have been a preplanned event to advertise the candy giveaways and whatever Dr. Hackett is going to do at it.
Here is what Rachel's email said...still trying to figure out if it is real:
"RACHEL HERE. JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW -- THEY'RE AFTER ME...BUT, I'M STILL BREATHING. I LISTENED TO DJ DAN. I FEEL YOUR SUPPORT. I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT IT MEANS TO ME. YOU'RE DOING GREAT WORK WITH THE SRI LANKA VIDEO. KEEP GOING. FIND THE PIECES. PUT THEM TOGETHER AT WWW.HANSOEXPOSED.COM BUT THAT'S NOT WHY I'M WRITING. THE REASON I'M WRITING IS TO TELL YOU... SOMETHING'S ABOUT TO HAPPEN. PAY ATTENTION. HEAD TO WWW.APOLLOCANDY.COM TRUST ME. THAT'S ALL FOR NOW."
Dazzedelf: Ir it could be going out in batches because of the 20,000 something addresses they have. Keep watching! :-)
ir = or sorry
nothing in my inbox yet (or spam folder) I'll keep an eye out tho!
The only reason I can think of that admin and I may have gotten one and you haven't yet is because we were listening to Comic Con and went to he.com right after Rachel said to. They might be sending out the e-mails in the order that people signed up. I highly doubt they'd leave anybody out because that'd just upset people. Either that or it's false.
Unless any of you also went to he.com right away and signed up? That would blow my whole theory.
I'm hoping it's legit and I'm hoping you get one too!
David/Twinkle- I had a mail from Rachel too...directing to apollocandy.com. Same as David posted about. Something is afoot huh!
Morning, Ange! Ular, we want you to get one too though! It's only fair. You're a player too! I'll check in later.
Just posted to the frontpage...I've gotta run now. Be back later.
I got to e-mail as well!!! Yeah!
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