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Clue #136 - Other Girl Special

The Other Girl posted with a message about a cryptic email she recieved filled with numbers. Decode the numbers (using this website) and you'll find that it's Rachel's quick reply to Malik. Her message answers some important questions we've been asking. She says...

"I knew you were behind that. I just knew. He never told me, you know?

When I hit the ground I was sure I was dead. The camera was broken, they were dragging me to my feet... and then a burst of gunfire in the air. These were SCIENTISTS, unarmed. They hit the ground. But not Mittelwerk. He kept coming until de Zylva turned the shots in his direction. Once Mittelwerk was face down on the ground, de Zylva grabbed my hand and we were gone. With the camera.

He didn't talk. He said he was de Zylva, that was it. We knew Mittelwerk was already in pursuit, but we stuck to tunnels that had been dug out during various wartimes. We had some close calls. The goal was the American embassy in Colombo, but when we got there, we knew that was impossible. It was being watched -- the airport, too. de Zylva said The Hanso Foundation had too much influence in Colombo to take the risk.

And, then, they caught wind of us again. We knew we could be caught at any second, and the only important thing was that video. EVIDENCE of Mittelwerk's world-wide decimation plot. I'd planned for this. All I needed was a secure, high-speed connection. The Hanso goons knew it too. They surrounded the place while I was uploading. We barricaded ourselves, de Zylva knew an escape route. I barely got out, made my way to a friend of de Zylva's who could get me to India. I swear, I waited for de Zylva. But he never came.

I'm so sorry."

Thanks to jonnygasman & Matt the Pale for emailing us about this clue!

220 Comments:

Blogger dixxee said...

Way to go Matt and Jonny.. was still in the other comments... Still need more coffee!

9/11/2006 07:06:00 AM  
Blogger jonah said...

top 5?

9/11/2006 07:07:00 AM  
Blogger Tom Mein, Guitarist said...

hey stuff is finally happening - i am wondering where this is all leading, or if its just about over

remembering 9 11

9/11/2006 07:15:00 AM  
Blogger oodles said...

Hi there,
missed all the action. Well done, all you codebreakers. So now at long last we know how she got out. Poor de Sylva, whatever happened to him.

9/11/2006 07:19:00 AM  
Blogger FYSB said...

I'm thinking that de Sylva got "vaccinated".

too bad the camera broke, that would have been an exciting clip.

but what a lot of excitement these past few days! lovin' the momentum!

9/11/2006 07:21:00 AM  
Blogger InEnglandAndLost said...

top 10...

9/11/2006 07:27:00 AM  
Blogger dixxee said...

Hey all.. I have uploaded a few pics from the Lexington event. Still working on getting photos on WIA...

Apollo Photos

9/11/2006 07:34:00 AM  
Blogger Miss Leman said...

matt you never sleep lol

9/11/2006 07:40:00 AM  
Blogger FYSB said...

Dang, I submitted my avatar to whereisalvar and apparently Rachel didn't think it was funny. I guess life on the run isn't conducive to a sense of humor.

BAD NEWS, FYSB. YOUR PICTURE WASN'T APPROPRIATE FOR MY SITE.

SORRY, BUT YOU'LL HAVE TO TRY AGAIN TOMORROW.

LOG ON TO WWW.WHEREISALVAR.COM

- RACHEL

9/11/2006 07:50:00 AM  
Blogger CattyGirl said...

Jack Bauer should have flown in to help. ;)

9/11/2006 07:51:00 AM  
Blogger Ange said...

LOL Pharmacopaeia...Tin Tinesque indeed.
What I am trying to figure out is why she is sending us these little bits here and there (Speaker, Ninja, OG). Why does she need them to contact Malek? I guess for me is it the same line of thought as to why she needed to break the Sri Lanka video up as well, which I still question. Anyway...off to work for me.

9/11/2006 07:51:00 AM  
Blogger dixxee said...

FYSB - I like it.. even if Rachel doesn't :)

9/11/2006 07:52:00 AM  
Blogger dixxee said...

So - I attempted to upload a pic to WIA and got the only 1 per 24 hours email... I know other's have seen this too. Will that one eventually show up or do I need to try again tomorrow?

WV: pitmymv - pit my motor vehicle...

9/11/2006 07:55:00 AM  
Blogger CattyGirl said...

peaceandnamaste - When I am searching for info. and come across articles with some coincidental information, I think of the last scenes in 'The Usual Suspects' haha Are the writers reading the same things we are and grabbing pieces of information for this storyline?

9/11/2006 07:56:00 AM  
Blogger FYSB said...

thanks dixxee. loved the lexington photos....thanks for sharing!

9/11/2006 07:58:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Morning Losties!!

Have to go play catch up and load another picture on WIA today, the one I wanted was too big...meh...at least Optimus Prime is representing!!!

Chat in a bit, hope the rest of the day is action packed!!

9/11/2006 08:24:00 AM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

I still think RB is stupid and I have no patience for stupid people.
However my interest in the game is peeked again with these communications Thank god.

9/11/2006 08:26:00 AM  
Blogger Chris Procter said...

Hi Guys

found you at last - I came back from lunch and was busy F5ing the last thread.

I agree Noble Lawyer - Rachel Blake is not the brightest spark.

Maybe it is intentional (I doubt it but maybe) and her stupidity will make it all the more credible when we find that she's being used by Alvar, or TVM or Joop or whoever.

9/11/2006 08:37:00 AM  
Blogger Chris Procter said...

Mmmn a virus that kills all stupid people - well that would leave both the US and UK governments pretty much decimated and what would the makers of reality TV shows do...

9/11/2006 08:43:00 AM  
Blogger Chris Procter said...

I think the problem may be as much with the budget for the TLEC and the acting talent(or lack therof) of the actress playing Rachel.

I also wonder who is doing the writing - Whilst Cuse, Javi et all might have written the outlain I imagine they have used some junior ABC screenwriter to do some of the script.

I'm sure Rachel's not meant to be stupid, I think the problem is that up against the skill of TLEC most people would appear a little slow ;)

9/11/2006 08:55:00 AM  
Blogger Chris Procter said...

Oh No I agree, nothing against the American people - as all the guys and girls here demonstrate most of you folk across the pond are really great people (and I have a soft spot for Texas) - seesh I even went to an American school.

9/11/2006 09:01:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

I ate one of my apollo candy bars yesterday and I must tell you I feel faster, stronger, better than I was before!! I think it is the nanites fixing me and doing these amazing things to me. Or it was the LSD in them that made me have that dream....Hmmmm

I hope we get some more action from RB today even if she is a twit!

9/11/2006 09:05:00 AM  
Blogger Chris Procter said...

Hi dazzedelf,

I agree its the guys here rather than TLE that keep me going. Every so often there seems to be some real promise then it all falls a bit flat.

But to give TPTB their due - it's all pretty new ground for a TV show .

9/11/2006 09:06:00 AM  
Blogger RyaNDrumZ said...

GOOD MORNING TLEC!!!
Well, glad to see this weekend wasn't a total stand still. Cool photps dixee of the apollo event. I want to know who de Zylva really is...and hopefully he's still alive. Well, today should be interesting.

9/11/2006 09:22:00 AM  
Blogger Chris Procter said...

So are we going to see Rachel or TVM turn up in Lost?

My thoughts are that we won't but that we might see the orientation video - perhaps

*Spoiler*









Jack will be shown it by the other that he knew prior to the crash in order to gain his confidence.



* End of spoiler*

9/11/2006 09:24:00 AM  
Blogger Chris Procter said...

Dazzedelf said...
I still want to see something illicit involving Rachel and Hanso!

Is that illicit or explicit? ;)

9/11/2006 09:25:00 AM  
Blogger FYSB said...

Are you talking 1970s porn star Alvar or old guy in the Narvik window Alvar?

Yikes, What am I doing? I don't want to see Rachel and Alvar do anything more intimate than shake hands.

Besides, I think all the women on the board know that Rachel is totally going to hook up with Malik.

9/11/2006 09:29:00 AM  
Blogger dixxee said...

So thrasher - how long did it take for you to get that pic up on WIA?

9/11/2006 09:33:00 AM  
Blogger Chris Procter said...

Rachel and Malik - I can see it now, a wedding list with No irons.

FYSB by the look of your Avatar they will be having TVM as the flower girl /bridesmaid at their wedding.

9/11/2006 09:35:00 AM  
Blogger dixxee said...

So far, every answer has lead to more questions, this is true in both the ARG and the show. That is what keeps them both interesting... you get the feeling of AHHH... I see, then the questions WHO, WHAT, WHEN, WHY, HOW?.. it is what keeps this a game and keeps us involved...

9/11/2006 09:42:00 AM  
Blogger Chris Procter said...

Maybe that is it Ratmanislost -

Perhaps TPTB are laying plans to ensure ABC don't force them to produce Lost beyond the 4 or 5 series planned!

BTW wasn't Ratman a character from The Stand?

9/11/2006 09:44:00 AM  
Blogger RyaNDrumZ said...

Well, there is still this Gary Troup stuff that still has not been hashed out yet. Also, the last 2 parts of the interview are still MIA. When and how important will this be to the storyline. Maybe that's ABC's way to tie this game in the show since in the LOST worl, Gary troup was on that flight and Cindy was captured by the others...

I really want to know, but we'll see.

9/11/2006 09:44:00 AM  
Blogger thinbluemime said...

Dark Angel said...

"Perhaps TPTB are laying plans to ensure ABC don't force them to produce Lost beyond the 4 or 5 series planned!"

The Lozt Boyz are sharp, and I have also wondered if they have a plan that abc doesn't know about, to terminate Lost as they originally planned, at the 5th season end.

The trick is to end at 5th season, without destroying ties to abc. Abrams and Lindelof may be the Lost brains, but I keep seeing Cuse's diplomat side...he seems to be the "Lindelof reins". No inside information here, just listening closely and speculating.....

9/11/2006 09:53:00 AM  
Blogger thinbluemime said...

I always though pirates had golden nuggets?? LOL

9/11/2006 09:57:00 AM  
Blogger FYSB said...

I think the struggle is balancing a storyline with interactivity AND fill a six month timeframe.

The story is interesting...evil madman out to save/destroy the world and the only person who stands in his way is a smart spunky young woman who has a personal reason for shining the light on the plot.

The interactivity for the most part has been remarkable...we've made phone calls to THF, followed codes and hacks on their website, stayed up til all hours listening to DJ Dan, had Rachel appear at ComicCon and met some fellow likeminded folks at the candy bar giveaways (which i really believe exists only for that reason).

I think it may have been a bit ambitious to try and fill up months and months of time with the ARG and hence the longer-than-we'd like glyph hunt. Though the de Zylva reveal was a bit abrupt.

I really like the Rachel videos and hope we get a few more. "Knowing" the person who's responsible for all this makes the game much more enjoyable and gives us someone to root for. Otherwise, it's just a series of puzzles.

ratmanislost...i think the term that best describes your dilemma is deus ex machina. and i agree.

9/11/2006 09:58:00 AM  
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9/11/2006 10:07:00 AM  
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9/11/2006 10:08:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

dixxee said...

So thrasher - how long did it take for you to get that pic up on WIA?

I put it up on Saturday, well, I submitted it then, I am not sure when it actually went up, but it was not my first picture I sent in to them...the second one did not get refused and that is my back up ID...I am still working on getting my original one up...I think it was too big a file or something...

9/11/2006 10:08:00 AM  
Blogger maven said...

By the way, dixxee: Cute pics. Thanks for letting us see them.

9/11/2006 10:08:00 AM  
Blogger dixxee said...

Thanks maven and all that have viewed..

Thanks thrasher - I will wait patiently, not much more I can do today anyways.

9/11/2006 10:11:00 AM  
Blogger maven said...

Also: Good morning all: Well, we got our explanation, didn't we? Good story, Rachel. Too bad we didn't get to see any of it (production too expensive, heh, TPTB?) Well, what now? More waiting for 2 weeks while TWM continues his agenda? We're wasting precious time!

9/11/2006 10:11:00 AM  
Blogger Chris Procter said...

I agree, I think the whole Jimmy Kimmel thing was not as planned. The question was not scripted and threw everything into a spin.

In my view when we play the game we are in the Lost Universe and Lost as a TV show does not exist. Clearly that is not the case as Rachel turned up at Comicon.

Therefore in my mind there is a show in the Lost Universe called Lost that features Hanso / Dharma etc but it is not the show we watch in our universe.

To consider that there were a bunch of people on an island whose actions were being mapped perfectly by a TV show would be silly. There is therefore the Lost we watch in the 'real' world with Kate, Hurley et al and another Lost in the Lostiverse with another plot - the only similarity being the inclusion of Hanso etc.

9/11/2006 10:13:00 AM  
Blogger thinbluemime said...

If you were Mittelwerk, and knew your dasterdly plans had been revealed to the world, what would you do next? How would you alter your plans?

9/11/2006 10:14:00 AM  
Blogger Chris Procter said...

Another thought...

Could it be that we did not get to see Da Silva as if we did we would have instantly recognised him as... well I'm not sure but someone from TLE or the Lost Flashbacks.

Maybe Da Silva is DJ Dan!

9/11/2006 10:16:00 AM  
Blogger FYSB said...

That's a great question thinbluemime. I think he has to accelerate...no more testing on Sri Lankans.

9/11/2006 10:18:00 AM  
Blogger Chris Procter said...

Thinbluemine - If I were TVM - I would use Hanso to discredit Rachel. Claim that her video is edited and then edit hers with extra footage to show a completely different story. You could even claim that the the Orientation Video was part of an ARG that Hanso was operating with it's partner Verizon on behalf of ABC!

9/11/2006 10:19:00 AM  
Blogger FYSB said...

Another question, now that Rachel has gotten the entire video out and we've all seen it, does she consider her job done? After all, now she and Malik are exchanging emails about setting up a meeting with a mystery man.

And finally, what are WE supposed to do? We know the truth, but that can't possibly be enough to stop Mittlewerk. Do I write my congressman? Go on Oprah? We need to know just how TMW is going to distribute this virus (and it better not be via Apollo bars!)

9/11/2006 10:22:00 AM  
Blogger FYSB said...

I like that darkangel. The essence of good storytelling is conflict and to keep throwing obstacles at your protaganist.

Remember the emails we got from Rachel directing us to Apollo? Maybe Mittlewerk hacked HER and sent us their using her email address. It is his way of both getting the virus out AND ending the threat of Rachel's supporters doing something about it...by killing us. Or at least 30% of us.

9/11/2006 10:25:00 AM  
Blogger Chris Procter said...

I though I might send THF a threatening email - we know what your doing sort of thing and see what response I got.

If you don't hear from me again, then you know TVM and his cronies have paid me a visit and it would probably be best to try a different tactic.

9/11/2006 10:25:00 AM  
Blogger RyaNDrumZ said...

Dark Angel, good call. TVM would need to discredit this video and that would be the way to do it. Her video does have some missing pieces...You never know. We might see another TVM commercial or something to show THF is not a bad company...
I just can't wait to see what happens today...

9/11/2006 10:28:00 AM  
Blogger Chris Procter said...

It's a tricky one - Hanso provided a strong response to the publication of Bad Twin. However if they respond to quickly too Rachel's video they give it credibility. I guess what they really need to do it wait until the story breaks and then respond with their story and 'real' video.

It wouldn't be difficult to paint a picture of us as a bunch of wierd internet cospiracists and as for DJ Dan - whose going to take him seriously.

9/11/2006 10:33:00 AM  
Blogger NiteSea said...

morning all... I see a lot of people questioning Rachel's Apollo candy connection--I thought that was explained in the (poorly done) sign-language video...

9/11/2006 10:34:00 AM  
Blogger maven said...

Great discussion everyone: Still...the big question remains as to what WE are supposed to do now? We cannot physically stop TWM and his gang from completing their agenda. The video has put the word out there, but what do we do with this info? Fasten: You had a great thought, Ophrah needs to get involved! LOL

I do expect that THF will begin a counter-campaign (probably some more of those commercials) and continue to tout how great their programs are and try to discredit Rachel and her video somehow.

The Apollo Candy thing is still very strange to me. Why is a Hanso subsidiary helping and what really is the point of the candy bars? Rachel still has some explaining to do!

9/11/2006 10:42:00 AM  
Blogger RyaNDrumZ said...

Well, I think Apollo Candy is just another THF sub. that is trying to break away from THF. It's like the ROT guys...They are involved with THF in a way, but they are fighting the fight with Rachael...

9/11/2006 10:45:00 AM  
Blogger NiteSea said...

see Clue 108 for the sign-language (rough) translation

9/11/2006 10:51:00 AM  
Blogger Dennis said...

Morning all!

PeaceAndNamaste said...

I'm just wondering if you've all seen any of the images found in the swf files at thehansofoundation.org before?

I just looked at all the SWF pictures, and I didn't see anything new. Sorry.

9/11/2006 10:56:00 AM  
Blogger Chris Procter said...

I don't think the THF silence is strange - yet.

Lets face it who knows about the Sri Lanka video other than us. I imagine that once DJ Dan starts talking about it we might get a reaction - "Hello Mr. Dan this is Thomas Verner Mitleverk from the Hanso Foundation, I think we need to have a little talk".

Has Rachel sent the Video to CNN, Reuters, The BBC, Fox News (OK maybe not). That's what I would do. Why spend all your effort sending the video to us. No offence guys but (I am assuming) none of us are big movers or shakers.

9/11/2006 10:58:00 AM  
Blogger Chris Procter said...

Well guys,

almost time for me to go home, I'll check back later if I finish the Ironing (yes my wife has me well trained - I hate the f*@#ing ironing)

Namaste

DA

9/11/2006 11:03:00 AM  
Blogger oxillini said...

dark angel, i beg to differ. i am a tremendous shaker!

9/11/2006 11:04:00 AM  
Blogger thinbluemime said...

The big news media distributes info to us. Big Media can be swayed. Rachel bypassed the media, and sent the info directly to us to insure big media didn't interfere.

But Mittlewerk is no dummy, and he is convinced his original extermination plan must succeed to "save the world".

What next, a counter media blitz by Mittlewerk, OR does he say "To Hell" with the public opinion, we take the data that we have already accumulated, and proceed to "save the world" as planned, without the test phase???

FREE Apollo bars for the whole world?? LOL

9/11/2006 11:08:00 AM  
Blogger NiteSea said...

my interpretation of the sign-language video was that the person signing was an Apollo insider and had found out the truth about what THF/Hackett were doing, so he decided to help Rachel, and that's how the WIA.com site got printed on all the bars.

9/11/2006 11:09:00 AM  
Blogger NiteSea said...

(and by interpretation, I mean what I gleaned from what others were able to make of the signing. I have very little first-hand knowledge of sign language)

9/11/2006 11:11:00 AM  
Blogger Julian Delphiki said...

Am I the only one that doesn't even see harm in what we just sawe in the video? Rachel makes Mittlework and Hanso seem like monsters, but in the end all they're trying to accomplish is averting the destruction of the human race. I don't know what killing some people in some villages has to do with it, but I also don't know what a four-toed foot, a giant smoke cloud, and a giant polar bear have to do with it either. It seems they're sacrificing a few for the needs of the many. So...what the hell is going on? Right now...I think Rachel's crazy...

And I was talking about it with some friends...this game can't tie into the show. They are portraying the game as real, the show as fake, so whatever the numbers/equation mean in "real life", they don't have the same relevence in the show because the show is supposed to be fictional...or so you'd think. You see, they're muddling up everything by making this game. What's real, what's not? Are we supposing that these people really did crash on an island, and if we suspend our disbelief then this show is reality TV? If in real life the DHARMA initiative was trying to save the world, then what do all the things on the island have to do with this? (I just realized something, the "virus" on the island was just a ruse to steal babies...anyways).

They really just need to get their story straight. Everyone says: "what happened to all the strange apparations, and the polar bears? why the hell aren't they answering our quesitons?" Well, it appears we're being fed the same meal in this game. Rachel keeps hinting to little misdemeanors committed by corporate leaders, and many sorts of things that corporations tend to do, but she doesn't really extrapolate. I don't see how this whole "missing organs" thing relates at all to the true story here. Honestly, I don't really understand what Mittlewerk is doing. All we know is he's poisoning people for some reason...

And is anyone else disappointed in the answers they are giving us? The whole thing at the end of the second season just ruined all the mysticism for me, and now this thing with the numbers is doing the same. This little "Hanso island video" hasn't revealed anything new. I got that the numbers were related to Valenzetti, so the numbers probably have to do with the end of the world and the factors leading to it. Is there something more? What does each number represent? Why did Hurley win the lottery when he used them? Why are all these people on the island?! Why would the numbers be on the hatch, or be the code for the timer if they are simply a piece of an equation?! The placement of these numbers seems more like a fluke or joke than anything that has meaning.

This is just to confusing...and I wouldn't be surprised if none of it made sense in the end.

-Mr. Tom

9/11/2006 11:15:00 AM  
Blogger Dennis said...

PeaceAndNamaste...

The only picture from the SWF files that I don't ever remember showing up on the site is the picture that was hidden in the Executive Bios SWF: http://static.flickr.com/83/240610747_a01fdf7cef_o.jpg

Everyone...

You can see my picture (of me, Dixxee, & TLCM) from the Lexington Apolloy Giveaway here: http://static.flickr.com/90/238467301_0808b49046_o.jpg

I'm the one that looks like the Jolly Green Giant. :)

Also, my picture finally made it up to WIA. It's under Kentucky, or you can get to it directly: http://www.whereisalvar.com/images/bars/124a55ce10ad81dbffabd88bb22e5426.jpg

9/11/2006 11:16:00 AM  
Blogger NiteSea said...

I think the appearance of the numbers in so many other places is sheer coincidence. I liken it to (appropriate analogy given what today is) the way people started finding 9 and 11 in things associated with the events of 9/11--9+1+1 = 11 (OMG!), the twin towers look like the number 11!, "The Pentagon" has 11 letters!, etc. When you're looking for coincidences, you find more meaning in them than there really is...

9/11/2006 11:25:00 AM  
Blogger NiteSea said...

(I should clarify that in the world of Lost, they are coincidences. The writers of course have interjected these things on purpose)

9/11/2006 11:27:00 AM  
Blogger RyaNDrumZ said...

Dennis, your goat is awesome...Cool pics man.
And what the heck is with the pic of the people with the shovels...? Very strange.

9/11/2006 11:38:00 AM  
Blogger FYSB said...

Hi Belly! I shortened it to FYSB. The nom de blog of "Fastenyourseatbelts" seemed like a fun idea at the time, but it's awfully long to keep typing out.

9/11/2006 11:39:00 AM  
Blogger Dennis said...

There is a new Speaker post!

9/11/2006 11:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It all makes sense to me...

Lost is a tv show in both TLE world and in the real world.

And in both "worlds" it's a work of fiction. Only in TLE world, some of the fiction is based on factual information.

Not really a difficult concept.

9/11/2006 11:56:00 AM  
Blogger dixxee said...

Doesn't most fiction have some basis of fact that brings the story closer to reality and makes it more believable? That is how the writers keep readers coming back, give you some basis to think - hey this could be true. It is the blatent fiction that has no basis of fact behind it that turns many people away from the story because they can not believe in it.

In this case, the writers are using the ARG to bring facts into the fiction of the show. And those "facts" are what keeps the game "real". IMHO.

9/11/2006 12:04:00 PM  
Blogger dixxee said...

Woo Hoo.. my pic just posted on WIA!

9/11/2006 12:07:00 PM  
Blogger dixxee said...

Oh - and speaking of number coincidences... my son's football number is 42!

9/11/2006 12:10:00 PM  
Blogger NiteSea said...

dixxee,
So if he loses a game, you can say his number is cursed! ;-)

9/11/2006 12:15:00 PM  
Blogger dixxee said...

Exactly nitesea... so far his team is 1 and 3... not a good season!

Luckily he is on the White (2nd string) team.. the Red (1st string) team is losing, where the White team only plays what is called the 5th quarter, and they are winning more than losing.

My boy is a linebacker.. strong side..

9/11/2006 12:19:00 PM  
Blogger Fenris said...

Hang on. So she uploaded the entire video while in Sri-Lanka and being chased down by Hanso Goons, barracaded into a...where?

Yet back in the good ole U S of A, the the stuff apparently already uploaded somewhere she had to split it all into fragments incase they caught her? Yeah....

I think Rachel needs to explain what the deal with that is.

9/11/2006 12:22:00 PM  
Blogger oxillini said...

I have to agree with vexing's take on the show universe and arg universe. i took twm's kimmel comments as a "oh, that's a silly work of fiction defaming us, pay no attention." which i assumed meant it was striking a little to close to true for his comfort. so in essence, in the arg universe, someone with knowledge of the history of thf and the island is making a tv show to document what occurred there. that's my take on it anyway.

9/11/2006 12:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

peaceandnamaste, trust me, Mattthepale and I made a HUGE stink over that continuity error when it occurred.

9/11/2006 12:31:00 PM  
Blogger Scoutpost said...

Good morning/afternoon everyone. Wow a busy weekend. Unfortunately I've come down with some sort of virus...hmmm (THF at work)...and feel terrible. Have fun saving the world!

9/11/2006 12:52:00 PM  
Blogger dixxee said...

Sorry to hear that scoutpost.. hope you feel better soon!

9/11/2006 12:52:00 PM  
Blogger Twinkle said...

Feel better, Scout!

It's been a while since I've been on. Good discussion. Nice to get some answers. Now we need to update the unanswered questions board *again*!

As far as Lost TV and TLE goes:

The casting call for the Rachel character included a personal appearance, which leads me to believe that they always intented for it to be as vexingmodstwo said:

Lost is a tv show in both TLE world and in the real world.

And in both "worlds" it's a work of fiction. Only in TLE world, some of the fiction is based on factual information.

--

My addition would as, Doc Jensen and Rachel in their interview, hinted, how is THF (which must have released the info upon which the Lost TV show is based and funded commercials to air during it) profitting from the show? What nefarious purpose does it serve for them?

And since the Lost TV show actors then appeared with Rachel's glyph wrist bands on, the TV show people have either turned against THF, their benefactor, or the whole thing was a really horrible incongruity.

9/11/2006 01:03:00 PM  
Blogger thinbluemime said...

we know that the Rachel events happen in our "real" time, she was at comic con, and etc.
we know the date of the flight 815 crash, in our real time
we DO NOT know the time frame on the island in relationship to our real time.
IF the island is moved backwards in time, in relationship to us, then the TV show could be a dramatic reenactment of past events, being aired in our real time.

For what it is worth, I dont believe though the time shift is different that much :(

9/11/2006 01:06:00 PM  
Blogger Dennis said...

Belly...

LSHNEMB!!!

9/11/2006 01:13:00 PM  
Blogger FYSB said...

I wonder if TOG's email was our clue for the day. I mean, technically I was asleep so I didn't really get to participate, but I can't really ask Rachel to accomodate my schedule. Though I did sit through Ugly Betty to get her candy bar.
C'mon, Rach, quid pro quo.

9/11/2006 01:16:00 PM  
Blogger Dennis said...

Fastenyourseatbelts said... Though I did sit through Ugly Betty to get her candy bar.

You had to wait until after the previews to get the bars? We got our bars BEFORE the they showed the previews.

...I stayed and watched Ugly Betty anyways... I think the nanites altered my judgement!

9/11/2006 01:24:00 PM  
Blogger FYSB said...

Yes, Dennis, we endured both previews as well as lengthy banter by the local ABC newspeople. It was not for the weak.

Stay away from the nanites, brutha. You may wake up one day in the back of a Jeep Compass, smelling of Sprite and covered in orangatan hairs and having no idea how you got there until Rachel releases THAT video.

9/11/2006 01:28:00 PM  
Blogger ib4uc said...

Wow! I go away for a few days and see what happens? I've got lots of catching up to do.

9/11/2006 01:32:00 PM  
Blogger dixxee said...

Aww.. I think Ugly Betty was a decent sitcom... Heck, we drove all that way so we stayed for both shows.. Ugly Betty was definitely the better of the two. Of course, there was almost NO ONE there when Men In Trees finished.

9/11/2006 01:35:00 PM  
Blogger dixxee said...

I don't know, there was quite a bit of activity this past weekend... and I have seen other weekend activity also.. at first it was true that Rachel seemed to take weekends off.. but I think the popularity of folks that were around they decided the weekends were worth continuing through.

9/11/2006 01:42:00 PM  
Blogger Dennis said...

Ugly Betty was OK. It was a total rip-off of The Devil Wears Prada...right down to the music at the end.

9/11/2006 01:44:00 PM  
Blogger Twinkle said...

But we had weekend activity this weekend and we'll have some again next! Glad to be getting some (partial) answers at least!

Oh, right on, dixxee! Although I think it's part of the "end of the story" that the pace picks up instead of them changing their minds.

9/11/2006 01:47:00 PM  
Blogger dixxee said...

Dennis - I have not seen The Devil Wears Prada, so I can not comment on that. Either way, neither of the shows was LOST. They were both sitcoms and this was ABC's only true way to promote the shows. I don't think either show will last long.

Twinkle - good point, hadn't thought of that... nicely "wrapping it up" concept.

9/11/2006 01:50:00 PM  
Blogger ib4uc said...

dixxee: looks like you have fun in Lexington. Good pictures!

9/11/2006 02:02:00 PM  
Blogger Chris Procter said...

Hi Guys

Back briefly - must do ironing and dinner etc

I have to agree that the whole Jimmy Kimmel thing was a complete screw up and there should ahve been no mention of Lost - however I imagine Jimmy Kimmel did not want to alienate those viewers who had not seen Lost and were unaware who Hanso were.

As I have said before, whilst it seems there is a TV Show in the ARG universe that is called Lost, has HANSO mentioned in it and has some of the same actors beyond that it may bear no relation to the real lost - no plane crash (maybe there was a shipwreck, or they're lost in the outback or the Canadian Wilderness etc).

To be honest, most of the time I ignore this bit of the game

anyway

I really must go

Namaste

DA

9/11/2006 02:28:00 PM  
Blogger Dennis said...

Indigo_Sunrise said... I know this is a tardy post, but I can't seem to recall when/where Jack has met one of the 'Others' prior to being on the island...

Would Desmond technically be considered an "other"?

9/11/2006 02:44:00 PM  
Blogger FYSB said...

I'm not certain of the accuracy of this, but Speaker just dropped this into the ITE dialogue:

fly-by - just got an e-mail. due to rosh hashannah, the DJ Dan cast is now on FRIDAY - that's one day earlier.

Yes it's me, but you don't have to believe me, keep an eye on the DJ Dan page, it should update in the near future.

*poof*

Posted by: Speaker | September 11, 2006 at 12:23 PM

9/11/2006 02:46:00 PM  
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9/11/2006 02:53:00 PM  
Blogger oxillini said...

badgerkyle: count me out for the chicago (non)event. i'm down in the lou!

9/11/2006 02:55:00 PM  
Blogger FYSB said...

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9/11/2006 02:55:00 PM  
Blogger oxillini said...

fasten: i guess someone's email did have an impact. who was that who was talking about that on friday. hold on.....

9/11/2006 02:56:00 PM  
Blogger thinbluemime said...

fysb, thanks....

9/11/2006 02:56:00 PM  
Blogger Dr Meridith Fox said...

Hi Indago - Dark Angel is busy and has asked me to answer for hime

It's a Season 3 Spoiler - check out either Spoiler Fix ot The Fuselage

*********** SEASON 3 SPOILER ALERT ***********************






It will be revealed that Jack has met one of "The Others" back in the real world; this will relate to why he is the only one they are able to cooperate with, although he will be extremely wary in the beginning. Get ready for politics-on-the-beach when the clique returns Jack-less and limping to confront a populace ready for regime change, and an aggressive new leader with a dangerous motivation. Source: The Tail Section








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9/11/2006 02:58:00 PM  
Blogger oxillini said...

and i'm back! it was gfd613 who was talking about emailing dj dan and tptb on friday. guess it did have an impact.

9/11/2006 02:58:00 PM  
Blogger oxillini said...

badger: will do! but i absolutely refuse to pull for the cardinals or the rams!

9/11/2006 03:01:00 PM  
Blogger Dennis said...

*********** SEASON 3 SPOILER ALERT ***********************


It will be revealed that Jack has met one of "The Others" back in the real world; this will relate to why he is the only one they are able to cooperate with, although he will be extremely wary in the beginning.


It must be someone from the Medical Hatch. Jack probably went to schoool with them or something. hmmmmmm. Interesting. That would make two people on the island that he also met off the island. Gee, what are the odds????

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9/11/2006 03:07:00 PM  
Blogger FYSB said...

While I certainly think that DJ Dan should respect religious holidays, if he moves to Friday, that means even fewer of us will be able to hear the broadcast. There's no way I can listen for two hours at my office. Jumping on line to post occasionally is one thing, but totally tuning out...no way.

9/11/2006 03:08:00 PM  
Blogger Dr Meridith Fox said...

No Problem Indago

Dark Angel has realised that he is gong to beinmore trouble than Rachel B unless he gets the ironing done and gets some dinner on ;)

He might be back later...

9/11/2006 03:08:00 PM  
Blogger Dennis said...

Fastenyourseatbelts said...

While I certainly think that DJ Dan should respect religious holidays, if he moves to Friday, that means even fewer of us will be able to hear the broadcast. There's no way I can listen for two hours at my office. Jumping on line to post occasionally is one thing, but totally tuning out...no way.

I AGREE!

Hopefully, with the day change, it will move to the evening as well.

8:00PM PST would work for me.

DJ Dan...you listening...?

Hello?... hello... hello... Echo... echo... echo... Pinch hitting for Pedro Borbon... Manny Mota... Mota... Mota...

9/11/2006 03:18:00 PM  
Blogger RyaNDrumZ said...

I agree FYSB, now I have to listen during work...That sux, oh well. Maybe I should wine, cry, and complain so they can change it back...Hey it worked for them.

9/11/2006 03:18:00 PM  
Blogger oxillini said...

from soilerfix.com

08/24 - [During the Season 2 DVD Launch Party,] Matthew Fox was on set shooting flashback scenes with Julie Bowen (who plays Jack's wife, Sarah). Source: USA Today

yes! raise your hand if you think julie bowen is friggin hot!

*flails upstretched arms wildly*

9/11/2006 03:26:00 PM  
Blogger oxillini said...

doh, spoilerfix.com

carry on..

9/11/2006 03:28:00 PM  
Blogger TheeGoblin said...

that blake news made mettelwerk sound like terminator 2

9/11/2006 03:29:00 PM  
Blogger Dennis said...

Dennis said...

8:00PM PST would work for me.

I just realized that Rosh Hashanah starts at sundown on Friday, the 22nd, so 8PM wont work.

It will have to be either Friday morning, or Sunday Evening...


(Yes...I quoted myself....)

9/11/2006 03:29:00 PM  
Blogger RyaNDrumZ said...

That's so funny you mentioned that PYSCOUNO...I thought TVM got shot down, and then he got back up...I'LL BE BACK.

Terminator is what I was thinking as well. I think you and I might be the only ones that thought that. I didn't want to bring it up, but I'm glad you did.

9/11/2006 03:34:00 PM  
Blogger maven said...

Glad to see the TPTB are listening to some of us re the Rosh Hasanah DJ Dan Podcast. I'm all for them respecting one of Judism's most important holidays, but I can see you can't make all the people happy all the time. Unfortunately, by moving it to Friday, a lot of working people will have a problem.

Re the time problems with the ARG vs LOST: I always had an issue with the 2004/2006 times difference. I guess we have to go with the flow that time is not what it seems on the island (per the producers at ComicCon), and somehow a major "catchup" will occur in S3.

Sorry to hear you're not feeling well, scoutpost. I hope you don't have nanite-itis!

9/11/2006 03:39:00 PM  
Blogger thinbluemime said...

LOL, poor Damon....Darned if he does, and darned if he doesnt!!

Here is an idea, I did this last DJ Dan podcast, not because of the broadcast time, but I just didnt want to fuss with streaming, so I waited untill broadcast was over and grabbed a torrent with the 100 meg download....was fast too (mp3 files are still on my blog)

9/11/2006 03:39:00 PM  
Blogger FYSB said...

That's doable, thinbluemime, but it certainly takes out the interactivity with the other players. Part of what made the middle of the night broadcast more of a "must attend" event was the fact that we were all online together and hanging out in chat and listening to our TLEC friends call in.

9/11/2006 04:11:00 PM  
Blogger The Alternative One said...

BadgerKyle said...
Hey everyone. Just wondering if I'm going to be the only person still going to the Chicago event (or non-event as the case may turn out to be) tommorow? I'm still headed there . . . if you are too (n.i.k., k.barrick. wendyzski, ox) let me know!

I'll be there!

The Alternative One

9/11/2006 04:20:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

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9/11/2006 04:20:00 PM  
Blogger thinbluemime said...

fysb, I know, the communal atmosphere isnt quite the same. But since LOST and the internet cover the whole planet, and somebody is experiencing sundown all the time, somebody is gonna have to adjust :)

Poscast mp3 on a delayed basis may be the only way

9/11/2006 04:22:00 PM  
Blogger sean said...

and why dont they just keep the djdan pcast at night? why in the morning. not only does it interfere with work, but west coasters have to wake up early.

9/11/2006 04:24:00 PM  
Blogger thinbluemime said...

Poscast=poDcast

9/11/2006 04:24:00 PM  
Blogger FYSB said...

Point taken thinbluemime. It's not a middle of the night issue for me, it's a work issue. I was one of those up at 1am for the last one and will likely do that again if DJ Dan deems it so...as long as it's not during a work week night.

This is going to be tough for them to solve...by the time you avoid the holy day for all the time zones, you've eliminated a big chunk of time.

9/11/2006 04:32:00 PM  
Blogger thinbluemime said...

fysb, exactly. Unless they change the podcast date radically. And I bet TLE is on a tight dead line (end TLE prior to Lost Season 3 ), so TPTB have few options.

9/11/2006 04:43:00 PM  
Blogger Large said...

Hey. I just wanted to point out (Although most of you won't care at all) that Ugly Betty is a rip-off of a Colombian soap opera, called "Betty, La Fea" (Spanish for Ugly Betty), written by Fernando Gaitan, also Colombian, and produced by RCN, a Colombian network. They have sold "Betty, La Fea" to several countries including Mexico, Japan, Arabia, and now USA.

BTW, I'm Colombian.

9/11/2006 04:43:00 PM  
Blogger aslanscubs said...

Hi, been lurking for a long time but decided to come out of lurkerdom and say hello. Durn these Apollo bars! They only gave them out at one event even remotely close to me. >:o(

9/11/2006 05:17:00 PM  
Blogger RyaNDrumZ said...

Aslanscubs, I would try missmegs apollo trade thingy, link is on TLEC front page. Maybe you can get one shipped to ya...

9/11/2006 05:35:00 PM  
Blogger aslanscubs said...

Thanks, Ryan. I've done that and I'm waiting. Just impatient, that's all. Impatient for LOST to start back, too!

9/11/2006 05:37:00 PM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

This is what I don't get. deZylva has a gun. He is facing a room of unarmed people. They are all lying on the ground including TWM (eventually). Why does he not just kill them all, at least TWM and a several others. Then this is either over or seriously delayed until new leadership is installed.

9/11/2006 06:10:00 PM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

If it had been me, I would have shot TWM and however many more to make up a third of the room, and said "There's your 30% mortality rate!"

9/11/2006 06:11:00 PM  
Blogger RyaNDrumZ said...

LOL noble...Thanks for the humor, I needed that...

9/11/2006 06:20:00 PM  
Blogger NobleLawyer said...

I don't want the podcast moved. I mean no disrespect toward any hebrew followers of the game, but I won't be able to listen or participate if it is during the same time on a Friday. I have to work AND have no sound at work.

9/11/2006 06:21:00 PM  
Blogger RyaNDrumZ said...

I agree Noble. I was really looking forward waking up Saturday morning, grabbing a cup of coffee, and relaxing in my bed with my laptop in my lap and AAHHHHH...Let the entertainment begin.
Not anymore...Meh, oh well, we'll see what happens

9/11/2006 06:28:00 PM  
Blogger FYSB said...

Noble, your version of deZylva vs. the scientists is HILARIOUS.

But, seriously, if you've got a room full of unarmed people lying on the ground and you shoot them, that's pretty much an execution. We don't know if deZylva knew what they planned to do. And technically, while the villagers had been infected, they hadn't died yet.

9/11/2006 06:35:00 PM  
Blogger Capcom said...

***Season2 Spoiler Question***









Since in the last ep Penny still had a picture of Des and her on the nightstand, I guess we can assume that in the 2-3 years that Des was in the hatch, that she never married that other guy? Sorry if this was obvious to everyone 100 years ago, but it just kind of dawned on me today. I also wonder if there has been big-time trouble between her and Daddy Warbucks since she saw Des in the stadium, and may have found out (in dialogue off-screen as we are supposed to assume happens on the island as well) that Dad intercepted all of Desmond's letters to her. Guess we'll see.




*****Spoiler Off*****

P.S. I really hope that TPTB can bring someone like Scully into the show who is a scientist that can explain some, or a lot, of the technical things that they have been and are introducing. They have got so much going on, that at some point I think it will be impossible for them to backtrack enough to explain everything that they have thrown at us and expected us to buy with blind faith, trusting that they'll explain it later. !coughXFilescough! I really enjoy the geeky science aspects, and they have just alluded to SO much, that they really need a Bill Nye guy to crash on the planet to satisfy my curiosity about all the techie-stuff. I'm tired of just guessing about it all!

9/11/2006 06:46:00 PM  
Blogger Capcom said...

Your right Belly, Sayid has been good in that way, if they would just give him some more airtime. I like the techie 'tude that he gets sometimes. :-)

'Night all.

9/11/2006 07:05:00 PM  
Blogger Capcom said...

Audio....maybe stripey blue tops are the new "redshirts". :-)

9/11/2006 07:40:00 PM  
Blogger thinbluemime said...

"audiopimp said... also.. off topic here but just wondering...
Regarding the tv show extras"

A good thought/question. Cuse and Lindelof in their podcast have referred to the extras as "socks: or "red-shirts"

CC & DL have said they have used the same "extras" though out Lost thus far.

I know of no red-shirt name list, although at one time I considered assigning them each a number for easy reference.

But I never did, and instead concentrated primarily upon two of them. The best way to describe them is with a picture, although I did name one "Blue Elfin". The following links shows pics of these two, and after closer examination, you may see why I have watched them closly.

The first one is my favorite. He appears in many close up shots, though briefly, but I think of him as the unnamed Lost Star. I kinda devoted a whole blog entry to him:
http://users.newblog.com/thinbluemime/?post_id=3504

The second one I concentrated on, I do not like, he seems "SHADEy" to me. He has to many "finger" in to much. He almost appears "invisible" to the main group of Losties. I don't like him, and I don't know why :)
Here is a pic of him , sitting on the beach
http://usera.imagecave.com/thinbluemime/s01e23-0432B_2B_2.jpg

OK, seemed like a slow clue night, so I rambled, and now you may just have....MORE Questions...That's Lost :)

9/11/2006 08:35:00 PM  
Blogger Fenris said...

I posted and forgot to log in and check replies.

Ah well.

This is boring me right now. I'm excited about DJ Dans return and I'm excited about the various parody/music projects I'm working on but I'm not excited by these snippets of text and duex ex machina (sp?) plot. That guy better be involed in the story later on, that is all I have to say. Digging up a mysterious ally to rescue her and then die is just lame.

Still I do actually want to see some more Rachel videos. I miss the vidoes. I also miss THF website. I know there is a preserved version around but I miss the site being really active. It's about time they got it up again if you ask me.

Okay I'm off for the night. Should agone to bed ages ago but got drunk instead. Woohoo.

Night all.

9/11/2006 08:59:00 PM  
Blogger Mick said...

is it just me or is it looking like we're not going to get sh*t until a.} whereisalvar.com is done or b.} djdan's podcast because these little hex messages aren't doing it for me.

9/12/2006 01:19:00 AM  
Blogger Mikey Boy said...

I'm starting to get disappointed in how the ARG is playing out. Even though I consider myself an atheist, I'm praying to God right now hoping the some how make this worth it to us in the end :P

9/12/2006 01:26:00 AM  
Blogger InEnglandAndLost said...

not sure if this has been asked/said, but are we waiting for WIA to reach 100%. RB just said that when ENOUGH people know, we may know by 75%... thoughts?

9/12/2006 04:52:00 AM  
Blogger Chris Procter said...

Hi Inenglandandlost,

I assume that we have to reach 100% but I have not seen it confirmed anywhere.

9/12/2006 05:58:00 AM  
Blogger InEnglandAndLost said...

Hi DA,

Yeah, but I'm Wondering why it would need to be 100%, she did say when enough people know, not when all people know...

9/12/2006 06:21:00 AM  
Blogger InEnglandAndLost said...

I reckon by friday, "enough" people will know and the next stage will be on! probably wrong!!

9/12/2006 06:36:00 AM  
Blogger dixxee said...

Wow.. slow night and morning. I usually take several hours just in catching up...Hmmm...

At any rate, Hello all... hope today proves more interesting.

going to attemp another post on WIA.

9/12/2006 07:31:00 AM  
Blogger oodles said...

The whole percentage thing is totally weird. I agree that it'll hit 100% on te 20th but what about the Asian losties? Their Apollo distributions will continue until Sep 30, they'll be totally mystified if they log on, say, the on 25th and are told that "100%" of bars have been found and that whole part is over anyway.

9/12/2006 07:34:00 AM  
Blogger oodles said...

excuse typos please

9/12/2006 07:35:00 AM  
Blogger Lost in Portugal said...

gavin: It's already on 72%

9/12/2006 07:41:00 AM  
Blogger Lost in Portugal said...

I really hope we don't have to wait until 20th to actually get something new. Speaker said that we got one encrypted message per day in the last three days and that it will "hopefully continue".

9/12/2006 07:44:00 AM  
Blogger FYSB said...

Good morning all! Here's what I'm wondering. Malik offered to intro Rachel to "him" (we're assuming that's Alvar) on the Aug 11 podcast. Rachel emailed us on Aug 22 to go to apollocandy and emailed us again on August 24 to go to whereisalvar.

My assumption til now had been that Rachel had met Alvar and had put up the whereisalvar site and the promise of revealing something big had to do with that meeting.

We found out this past weekend that Rachel still hasn't met Alvar.

So I wonder what the big secret is at the end of whereisalvar, when "enough" people know. And when will we see the outcome of Rachel's meeting with Alvar.

9/12/2006 08:12:00 AM  
Blogger tlcm said...

Good morning, I'm kinda lost (ha ha) without having to hunt glyphs. Are we suppose to hunt for the cryptic messages now? I had hoped RB would start using one or the other of her blog pages to keep us in the know. oh well...

On another note; I've been watching season 2 on DVD and saw that the Apollo candy that Kate and Hurley eat isn't at all like the bars we've been getting. What they are eating is more of a nouget candy bar like milky way. Anyone else notice that?

9/12/2006 08:13:00 AM  
Blogger dixxee said...

TLCM - Yeah.. I noticed that a while back but don't think it matters that much. Probably cheaper to produce the plain chocolate for distribution....

In reality, the bars on the island came in a tin. Not those little brown boxes or plastic grocery bags they were using to distribute them either.

9/12/2006 08:17:00 AM  
Blogger The Alternative One said...

For your amusement...

The DJ Strikes back!

The Alternative One

9/12/2006 08:18:00 AM  
Blogger dixxee said...

That was amusing.. Thanks

9/12/2006 08:29:00 AM  
Blogger tlcm said...

my son spin also. that was entertaining.........

9/12/2006 08:32:00 AM  
Blogger tlcm said...

that was suppose to be "spins"

sorry

9/12/2006 08:32:00 AM  
Blogger dixxee said...

How you been TLCM - haven't seen you on since Lexington.

9/12/2006 08:35:00 AM  
Blogger dixxee said...

Hell ular98, pretty quiet today....

9/12/2006 08:36:00 AM  
Blogger dixxee said...

*Hello*

9/12/2006 08:36:00 AM  
Blogger dixxee said...

Well, off to a meeting with the boss.. hopefully things will pick up here soon.

9/12/2006 08:39:00 AM  
Blogger Chris Procter said...

Hi Guys

Actually I am quite glad it's quiet as I am really quite busy at work (wish it was the other way round though!)

9/12/2006 08:40:00 AM  
Blogger Chris Procter said...

Yes - of course - I can't believe that we didn't twig that one...

9/12/2006 08:44:00 AM  
Blogger engineer27 said...

Hello, all.
I tried to post this yesterday, but Blogger ate it.

Random theorizing: six Hanso intitiatives, six VE core factors -- as TWM said in the video, they have been trying to change the core factors by changing the environment. So all the stuff Rachel has been feeding us -- missing organs, antennas off the Korean coast, starting wars, Joop -- are all attempts to avert the end of the world. As with their latest effort in Sri Lanka, they generally ignore the moral implications of what they do, justifying their actions with the end goal of saving the world.

Also: all those computers in the Swan hatch? They were doing the same thing as the savants at Vik -- "running" the Valenzetti Equation. Savants are better at it, though. Finite precision in the computer causes the solution to drift off after a certain number of iterations, so the program has to be re-initialized every so often with the correct values -- about every 108 minutes. The computer errors, unexpected at first, probably led to the "incident".

9/12/2006 08:44:00 AM  
Blogger Chris Procter said...

Hi Engineer

Yes I agree that Hanso are ignoring any moral restraints and are doing what needs to be done. But as TVM says - if you new with absolute certainty that the World was going to end wouldn't you do anything you could to save it. Hey if you fail everyone dies anyway.

As per the computers, I think they may have had losts of uses, if they're running lot of scientific experiments computers are pretty useful (even those old IBM IIs or whatever they were)

9/12/2006 08:51:00 AM  
Blogger oxillini said...

good morning all! still nothing new, huh? i bet malik and rb have met up for some sweet conspiracy bustin love.

9/12/2006 08:53:00 AM  
Blogger Chris Procter said...

TVM will be jealous....

9/12/2006 08:55:00 AM  
Blogger RyaNDrumZ said...

GOOD MORNING TLEC!!! Man what a slow couple of days. Kind of miss those glyphs...Yeah Right!!!
WOW, Gavin. You have that whole WIA.com Percentage thing down to the Math, very cool bro.
We'll see what happens...

9/12/2006 09:25:00 AM  
Blogger FYSB said...

New DJ Dan time. And it sucks for working America.

That's right! It's time to liven things up with another LIVE SHOW!!! September 22, 7am PST, it's a DJ Dan Special Live Event: "The DJ Strikes Back!" This time, it's personal.

9/12/2006 09:32:00 AM  
Blogger Chris Procter said...

If it's any consilation it sucks for me too here in the UK as I will be in work :(

We will need to have live comments posted on TLEC!

9/12/2006 09:35:00 AM  
Blogger RyaNDrumZ said...

Well that just sux...That's all I'll say about that. Is this brand new? I heard Speaker hint about the change...
Well, looks like this will need a new post. Has anyone E-mailed Admin?

9/12/2006 09:36:00 AM  
Blogger Black Swan said...

Slow day, so I've been looking around. Sounds like we should watch Kimmel's special this Wed. E-online "Watch with Kristin" says:

From lancine: Have you seen Jimmy Kimmel's special? I love him.
Stand in line, be-yotch. I adore Jimmy K.! And yes, the special is this Wednesday on ABC--it's an all-star aalute to himself (genius), and he'll have Ben Stiller and lots of surprise guests. My guess? Alvar Hanso! As you know, Jimmy's a big Lost fan, and when I caught up with him recently, he told me he's vying for a guest spot on the show. "I want to be just like the Globetrotters showing up on Gilligan's Island." His show was also renewed for a fifth season, so we're guaranteed another year of Mr. Smiley randomly appearing in the audience. Yay!

9/12/2006 09:38:00 AM  
Blogger RyaNDrumZ said...

Where did you find this codysmom? Do you have a link?

9/12/2006 09:42:00 AM  
Blogger FYSB said...

Alvar on Jimmy Kimmel is way past jumping the shark.

9/12/2006 09:45:00 AM  
Blogger Dennis said...

Look on the bright side... we don't have to wait one more extra day....?

Lancine said... Have you seen Jimmy Kimmel's special? I love him.
Codysmom said... I adore Jimmy K.!

I think I just threw up a little in my mouth :P

9/12/2006 09:46:00 AM  
Blogger Capcom said...

Yay, some tech-talk! Thanks Engineer27.

9/12/2006 09:47:00 AM  
Blogger oxillini said...

but what if the shark that gets jumped is a dharma initiative project? is it okay, then?

9/12/2006 09:48:00 AM  
Blogger Chris Procter said...

we don't get Jimmy Kimmel here in the UK - I'm note sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing.

9/12/2006 09:50:00 AM  
Blogger Chris Procter said...

No It can't be the Dharma Shark, that poor beastie washed up dead on a beach in Australia after Sawyer shot it :(

9/12/2006 09:52:00 AM  
Blogger maven said...

Morning everyone! So we got the new DJ Dan time...sorry for you working/school people!

What do you think when DJ Dan says: "This time it's personal."

9/12/2006 09:53:00 AM  
Blogger RyaNDrumZ said...

DA, that's how we'll be able to jump the shark...It's on land, and jumping in water isn't easy...LOL

9/12/2006 09:53:00 AM  
Blogger Black Swan said...

I found it on the Lost Links site (http://www.lostlinks.net) and clicked on Lost Love Triangle Scoop which took me to E!online's Watch with Kristin. Go to the bottom of that page and click "keep reading" and it's about in the middle of that second page.

9/12/2006 09:53:00 AM  
Blogger Chris Procter said...

I must say when I first heard the phrase Jumping the Shark I had to look it up on Wikipedia - obviously something that hasn't filtered over to the UK.

Mind you I know some of what we say confuses you guys. A friend of my brother in law was in a bar in Texas and anounced the the shock of his American Friends that he was just going to "pop outside for a quick fag" - In the UK the word fag means cigarette!

9/12/2006 10:03:00 AM  
Blogger RyaNDrumZ said...

DA - Very funny. Yeah in Texas they probably were looking at your freind in a strange way...
Not that there's anything wrong with that...LOL
But, it's definetly cool to talk on here with people all over the world...

9/12/2006 10:09:00 AM  
Blogger Olerica said...

"Dark Angel said...
No It can't be the Dharma Shark, that poor beastie washed up dead on a beach in Australia after Sawyer shot it :( "

I'm sure that this is a miniscule plot point, but I watched the epi last night and MICHAEL actually shot the shark.

9/12/2006 10:17:00 AM  
Blogger Black Swan said...

Sorry if I made you verp, dennis

9/12/2006 10:18:00 AM  
Blogger Chris Procter said...

I stand corrected Olerica - I last watched that episode at the beginning of the year

9/12/2006 10:24:00 AM  
Blogger Black Swan said...

Does anybody have a link for a still shot of Leonard, the crazy numbers guy (connect 4 game, ex-navy..the one who kept repeating the numbers)?

9/12/2006 10:28:00 AM  
Blogger Dennis said...

Codysmom said...

Does anybody have a link for a still shot of Leonard, the crazy numbers guy (connect 4 game, ex-navy..the one who kept repeating the numbers)?

Try lost-media.com has screen shot for every episode. Here is the page you want:

http://gallery.lost-media.com/thumbnails.php?album=1033&page=7

9/12/2006 10:38:00 AM  
Blogger Dennis said...

Anybody up for a crazy theory?

9/12/2006 10:48:00 AM  
Blogger The Alternative One said...

Note concerning the Chicago area Apollo give away this evening...

I phoned the Rockit Bar and Grill today and asked them if they had an ABC Promotion this evening. The guy on the phone told me an Acura event was scheduled from 5pm to 9pm. My guess is that they WILL have the Apollo give away there also.

The Alternative One

9/12/2006 10:52:00 AM  
Blogger Chris Procter said...

Go for it Dennis but be quick - I am off home in 10 minutes!

9/12/2006 10:56:00 AM  
Blogger k.barrick said...

Just wanted to sound a "hello" to everyone. Feels like forever since the video was finished.

EW has an interesting series of "break-up" letters to television shows. One person breaks up with "LOST" to go off with "Veronica Mars."

So yeah. Hi.

9/12/2006 10:57:00 AM  
Blogger Thrasher76 said...

Morning Losties! If you are looking for that new and exciting way to eat your apollo candy bar look no further than page 2 of WIA and you wil find the perfect way to eat that nanobot goodness....

LSHNEMB!!!

9/12/2006 10:59:00 AM  
Blogger dixxee said...

Well, good to see that not much has happened since I left (hint of sarcasm)!

Dennis - go for it..

9/12/2006 11:02:00 AM  
Blogger Twinkle said...

Is the new DJ Dan time worthy of a new post?

9/12/2006 11:02:00 AM  
Blogger Dennis said...

OK here goes...I don't normally comment on theory, but I just had a thought...

CRAZY THEORY TIME

What if the HIM Rachel Blake is talking about is NOT Alvar Hanso, but it is Enzo Valenzetti? It could also be Alvar, but….

What if the big twist is that the Valenzetti equation is a FAKE? Think of the implications...

All of the research that was being done to change the variable isn't working? Why? Because the numbers can't be changed. It is all a scam being perpetrated by Enzo, Alvar, and the UN, to pacify the US and USSR. Alvar sets up this phony foundation to "solve" the equation that he knows can never be solved. The end date is a long way off so they can worry about that later, plus there might be some good that comes out of it.

Fast forward 40+ years, no progress had been made on the equation, and some people who are not in the know, like Mittelwerk, start to worry that something drastic needs to be done. So he starts wars, creates viruses, etc. trying to change the equation...and it still doesn't change the “numbers”. The only two people alive that know the truth are Alvar and Enzo, but Ezno is missing or dead. So Alvar has to go into hiding because he can’t admit to lying all these years, and he is afraid of Mittelwerk and what he is doing.

Maybe Alvar has been trying to track down Ezno since 2001, and that's why he hasn't been seen...

Under this scenario, Rachel Blake still gets to be the good guy. She can stop Mittelwerk AND the world won’t come to an end. Even Mittelwerk gets a little redemption, since he didn’t know the equation was fake. Especially if all those people in Sri Lanka can still be saved. Alvar turns out to be a good guy overall, but a failure by letting things get out of hand.

9/12/2006 11:03:00 AM  
Blogger dixxee said...

Thrasher - feeling a little toastie?

9/12/2006 11:03:00 AM  
Blogger Twinkle said...

Or are you saying Alvar's toast?

9/12/2006 11:04:00 AM  
Blogger RyaNDrumZ said...

MMMMMMMM-Toasted Apollo Bars are the Best...LOL Thrasher

9/12/2006 11:04:00 AM  

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